We have had an industrial strategy since the late 1970s which is to simply abandon our manufacturing base ,. As an Engineer I have witnessed it myself. Anyone skilled and gets their hands dirty and actually manufactures something ,is looked on as a second class citizen and has been for decades in this country.Germany has a very different attitude. Can you imagine France or Germany letting an Indian company own its Steel production companies or even its energy providers,utilities etc . How many world beating companies have been flogged off by the city boys and then the skills technology,technical know how disappear abroad,along with the profits and export potential. The bottom line is ENERGY we need cheap plentiful energy for heavy manufacturing to flourish , unfortunately we have the opposite,all of course owned by foreign companies.
_" Can you imagine France or Germany letting an Indian company own its Steel production companies or even its energy providers?"_ Joke is on you, EU's largest steelmaker Arcelor Mittal, is owned by an Indian: Laskhmi Mittal. And not just EU, Indians run the steel businesses of Africa as well: from Rawal in Kenya to Thakwani in Ghana. India had been the world's center of steel production for more than 2000 years even uptil years after Britain arrived in India. And now once again, India is the world's 2nd largest steel maker making more steel than entire EU, and increasing capacity by 2030 to produce more steel than entire EU+USA combined. India will regain its spot as the world's center of steel once more. PLI scheme for specialty steels is already out. Fun fact: Professor Bhadesia, UK's foremost steel researcher, is also Indian origin and is funded by Tata. As for energy providers, Russia was EU's energy provider until they decided to engage in virtue signalling and started imported Russian oil refined in India instead of direct Russian oil refined in Russia. As a result, we may see India climb from spot 4 to 3 and replace Russia in terms of Total Oil Refinery Capacity. Good job EU lol. And even in the future, with India's massive push towards Green Hydrogen being led by Indian oil and gas giants like Reliance Industries, India might just be the EU's source of Green Hydrogen and Electrolyzers.
@anonymousone6075 No conclusive evidence to suggest that India "invented" steel. But the evidence on Indian Wootz steel and its use in making the world famous "Damascus Steel Swords" and its quality is present, well documented and undeniable.
You agree that corrupt liars in labour or tory should run something. Go you to a labour council, look at the roads and tell me that the people running that vouncil should run aything. Same for the tories or lib dems. It's a uniparty and if you think that government is the solution you are either brainwashed or thick. I'm sorry, government is never the solution, it is the problem. Notice I said government, I did not single out a party. Government is the problem never the solution
World Steel Production 2022. 1.9 Billion tons. By country in million tons. China 1,000. India 140. Japan 86. USA 80. Russia 75. South Korea 66. TATA UK 6. TATA UK is losing one million pounds per day and is economically a lost cause. HOWEVER, an argument could be made for preserving it as a strategic industry. First, give the Port Talbot plant to the UK Government, which will then run it at taxpayer's expense. As a fully integrated iron and steel plant there is no way it could be profitable today----look at the above data.
Actually he is correct. If you don't move to the most economically advantageous locations you eventually will go out of business. Which is why I spent a major part of my engineering career visiting Taiwan, China, Mexico, Puerta Rica, and Costa Rica. Move or perish.@@theancientwinebeerexperime2273
I am a proud Englishman and have no great love for the Welsh (or Scots for that matter)(simply reflecting back their dislike/hatred of us, btw) BUT, on this matter I am 100% for nationalising the steel industry, keeping it in the UK, and keeping the community, and livelihoods of the 3000 workers (and associated jobs) in Port Talbot. I am old enough to remember the days of national industries, how badly they were run, and how they were dictated to by the unions; but, we have been insane in farming out our 'commodities' (for want of a better word) to foreign ownership at the loss of UK jobs and our own security across so many industries. Good luck to the workers in Port Talbot in their fight to keep a steel industry in UK.
As an exiled Welshman for the past 57 years who once was very familiar with Steel Company of Wales/ British Steel/Corus/Tata I wish that were economically feasible. The situation is however that the Port Talbot plant is losing circa one million pounds per day and it would take a brave or foolish government to take on that. Ever since the 1970's I've watched sadly the decline of America's own steel industry to the point where it is a shadow of its former self. And that's without Brexit, and with the advantage of a large internal demand. There is a very large world over-capacity in the steel industry and Port Talbot has some severe disadvantages. All consumables, including coking coal and iron ore have to be imported. It's two remaining blast furnaces are dated. To give you an idea, the current modern Thyssen blast furnaces have hearth diameters of about 38 feet and the economics of iron and steel production begin there. I think there may be a strategic argument to be made, but sadly the economics are unavoidable.
Nutty squirrel 8754 Hello proud English man I am a very proud welsh women I’m afraid port talbot was on its knees losing 1 million a day and it wouldn’t be fair to pour taxpayers money into it all the time I live in port talbot and many many people are sick of the pollution it caused GOODBYE blast furnaces rest in peace🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@lindamessam8784 Hi, and thank you, and gareth davies before you (who I had no idea had commented or I would have replied) for your views from a Welsh angle. Of course I can completely understand your 'dislike' of the pollution caused so on that point alone I would bow to your views. My concern, NOT as an Englishman but as a British patriot, is we are leaving ourselves open to the vagaries of any foreign dictator (think putin/jong un/xi ping) for the basic commodities for our infrastructure, domestic goods, and military needs. I am what is now deemed a 'climate denyer' and believe we, the UK, have achieved our 'moral highground' of low carbon emissions simply by passing every part of our self-sufficiency, and manufacturing, to China. I think this will prove a great disservice, and a greater disadvantage, to our grandchildren, and their children, in the decades ahead. However, as I said, I will bow to your local knowledge that not all people are against this change and wish you all well going forward. best wishes, ns.
the British Political and Administrative Class decided in the 1970s that the UK was to be 'post industrial' and then adopted the EU policy which was likewise to close down UK industry. This is still the the DTI's policy. Just like DEFRA still pursues CAP for our agri-business. The UK overtook France in manufacturing value last year.
Our politicians never plan ahead they just worried about winning the next election. Thats why we have problems in so many areas. We have not built any resovoirs for decades, we are dumping sewage in the sea because our water treatment cannot cope, now we find out we need nuclear power, we left the EU but no plans until recently to train up skilled staff, we short of Doctors & Dentists most of these problems are because governments over the years have no plans for 20 or 30 years time.
Hate to say it but I agree with Paul. We NEED steel, we cannot rely on imports. Even if we only use it in war time, we NEED a steel plant ready to go. This is not good enough.
Western ministries of defence are talking about the slow walk to WW3 and massive rearmament programmes. Getting rid of steel making and leaving only arc furnace recycling is a strategic blunder. Sadly this level of incompetence and lack of foresight is exactly what I’ve come to expect from the Westminster steaming pile. Don’t waste my time telling me steel is unimportant and not the business of government. Steel making is a vital national asset, especially in times of war. Russia is now building 100 tanks/month. Britain 20 per annum.
Yeah it's an Indian company which plants in UK, Scotland, Netherlands nd other EU countries....but there lose making steel work is in UK why aren't UK government giving them money when Netherlands government give money to TATA to replace there system.
Lack of investment whilst billions d appear for Israel Ukraine and wars fake ppe gear and other dodgy things. Those that say we can’t compete with foreign wage structures should look at Germany and its strong manufacturing base they have to compete with low Chinese wages etc and costs and manage to
We cannot produce the right type of steel in this country to defend ourselves in a war . We would go into battle throwing cream cakes from electric cars.
Liebour did nothing to reverse this 1997 - 2010. CONservatives continued looting the nation 2010 - today. And it will be the same if either of them win the next Election.
No, you will find it was the uncontrolled unions at that time making our products uncompetitive. Maggie just stopped the rot by destroying the power of the unions, who were asking for more and more money for doing less and less. I was there on strike in 1979 with British Steel and saw it first hand. We were the sick man of Europe at that time.
@@stevezodiac491 Thatcher let our industry rot and die or be sold to foreigners. She also squandered the N Sea Oil windfall on 4 million unemployed and sold off our social housing. All for some misplaced dogma.
Because, like every single thing you care to mention, we underinvest in it. The British ethos appears to be 'short term gain, long term loss' where it should be the opposite.
why don't we have a strategy" Bailey is a conservative. Tories have had 14 years to implement such a strategy . As from the first yer of tory rule, apprenticeship aid was stopped. There was O reason, other than financial why Tata made this decision and it is ALL down to brexit. We had Eu protection for our steel industry and the tories threw that away. THAT is one truth that this tory will never admit!
Sean doesn't understand that you cannot build industrys that are relevant today by throwing away the skill base that got us here in the first place. This is what makes Japan and Korea resilient. I would love to see what engineering skills he has before i listen to any of his arguments seriously.
British heavy industry doesn't exist anymore. We have lost it to China.....Oh, and just to remind everyone, China are in the process of building a chain of coal fired power stations. This is devastating for the town of Port Talbot, for South Wales and the UK. Britain's net zero policy is already one of the lowest in the western World. Sunak and his his Indian pals are trying to have their way... but it won't end well.
And now the talk is about war looming in the distance, it is not a very good time not to have a steel industry. Steel is, almost without comparison, THE strategic material, without it very few weapons can be made. Your government is ether very stupid, or have other agendas.
this country is fast approaching 3 trillion pounds in national debt .whole place is going downhill fast ,pessimism loss of self confidence selfbelief national disunity with no charismatic leader from any party to revive or offer a vision for growth and new prosperity which can only come from profit making capitalist competitve businesses.Collectivist socialism and nationalising loss making business will only enhance and bring forward economic and social collapse
@@alanedwards6491 Why should I have a problem with that? I wish all the best for British working people. Good and secure jobs with high wages. The problem is, UK can not finance the same subsidies compared to the EU and global companies do and will prefer the EU market. UK can not compete with the EU. Brexit is a real mess for the British people.
This is madness. What will our benefits bill be when all these people depend on this for their livelihoods. We are not doing a good thing here £500 million toget rid of jobs and 3000 on the dole. Lose, lose lose. Scrap net zero win win win. MADNESS.
@@songscoops4205 Am I? The EU and its members have higher "Green Agenda" restrictions and steel factories will not close for the moment. So whats the difference, when its not green policies?
I would rather support a steel industry rather than support 3000 families with nothing to do. No other jobs in this area. Steel will be needed for ever. and we will be held to ransom for foreign steel
In these troubled times, why are we abandoning our manufacturing capabilities. If there is war, where the bloody hell will we get the stuff we need to ramp up production of defensive equipment?
Sean is wrong on this one, the steel works are of strategic importance to the country like gas, coal, oil and connective infrastructure so therefore must be kept, Sean is looking at it from a business view point, anyway, why are the tax payers subsidising green energy.
No industrial policy because GB decided decades ago we'd rather spend £1 in Poundland than £2 pound for the same item sold in, made in UK land
@thezoldics7648 your answer is totally unrelated to my post
Net zero and energy subsidies for renewables are killing uk heavy industries, what is left of them.
We have had an industrial strategy since the late 1970s which is to simply abandon our manufacturing base ,. As an Engineer I have witnessed it myself. Anyone skilled and gets their hands dirty and actually manufactures something ,is looked on as a second class citizen and has been for decades in this country.Germany has a very different attitude. Can you imagine France or Germany letting an Indian company own its Steel production companies or even its energy providers,utilities etc . How many world beating companies have been flogged off by the city boys and then the skills technology,technical know how disappear abroad,along with the profits and export potential.
The bottom line is ENERGY we need cheap plentiful energy for heavy manufacturing to flourish , unfortunately we have the opposite,all of course owned by foreign companies.
Well said
My friend is a hairy arsed fukin welder he earns £21 an hour, he earns more than a junior qualified doctor, plumbers earn more than him!¬
Spot on. Well said sir.
_" Can you imagine France or Germany letting an Indian company own its Steel production companies or even its energy providers?"_
Joke is on you, EU's largest steelmaker Arcelor Mittal, is owned by an Indian: Laskhmi Mittal. And not just EU, Indians run the steel businesses of Africa as well: from Rawal in Kenya to Thakwani in Ghana.
India had been the world's center of steel production for more than 2000 years even uptil years after Britain arrived in India. And now once again, India is the world's 2nd largest steel maker making more steel than entire EU, and increasing capacity by 2030 to produce more steel than entire EU+USA combined. India will regain its spot as the world's center of steel once more. PLI scheme for specialty steels is already out. Fun fact: Professor Bhadesia, UK's foremost steel researcher, is also Indian origin and is funded by Tata.
As for energy providers, Russia was EU's energy provider until they decided to engage in virtue signalling and started imported Russian oil refined in India instead of direct Russian oil refined in Russia. As a result, we may see India climb from spot 4 to 3 and replace Russia in terms of Total Oil Refinery Capacity. Good job EU lol.
And even in the future, with India's massive push towards Green Hydrogen being led by Indian oil and gas giants like Reliance Industries, India might just be the EU's source of Green Hydrogen and Electrolyzers.
@anonymousone6075 No conclusive evidence to suggest that India "invented" steel. But the evidence on Indian Wootz steel and its use in making the world famous "Damascus Steel Swords" and its quality is present, well documented and undeniable.
Tories has been governing the country for 14 years. I agree with public ownership on Rail and Utility to support the Communities.
You agree that corrupt liars in labour or tory should run something. Go you to a labour council, look at the roads and tell me that the people running that vouncil should run aything. Same for the tories or lib dems. It's a uniparty and if you think that government is the solution you are either brainwashed or thick. I'm sorry, government is never the solution, it is the problem. Notice I said government, I did not single out a party. Government is the problem never the solution
I prefer to put money into our own steel works than keep throwing money at other counties for wars and immigrant and HS2
Tata was losing a million a day at tata
No steel industry, no independent UK…simple as that…
Get a grip we will be alright
World Steel Production 2022. 1.9 Billion tons. By country in million tons. China 1,000. India 140. Japan 86. USA 80. Russia 75. South Korea 66. TATA UK 6.
TATA UK is losing one million pounds per day and is economically a lost cause. HOWEVER, an argument could be made for preserving it as a strategic industry. First, give the Port Talbot plant
to the UK Government, which will then run it at taxpayer's expense. As a fully integrated iron and steel plant there is no way it could be profitable today----look at the above data.
Tata should close port talbot for good I live there it’s ruined our town with the pollution I’m glad those blast furnaces have gone😊
In a globalized world, companies move around the world according to where it is most profitable to run the company.
Sorry Sean but you know the price of everything but not the value of anything.
Actually he is correct. If you don't move to the most economically advantageous locations you eventually will go out of business. Which is why I spent a major part of my engineering career visiting Taiwan, China, Mexico, Puerta Rica, and Costa Rica. Move or perish.@@theancientwinebeerexperime2273
Port talbot has never been profitable I read only twice they made a profit in 14 years
Our politicians decided that Britain's role in the EU is finance, education and tourism ! Industry and agriculture are for "other states"
Very short sighted to close this place, the country needs to make our own steel the way the world is at the moment.
Do you want a steel industry owned by the state?
Regular companies do prefer EU countries.
this should not be allowed under ANY circumstance...people must rise up
The working class are too fukin thick!
I am a proud Englishman and have no great love for the Welsh (or Scots for that matter)(simply reflecting back their dislike/hatred of us, btw) BUT, on this matter I am 100% for nationalising the steel industry, keeping it in the UK, and keeping the community, and livelihoods of the 3000 workers (and associated jobs) in Port Talbot. I am old enough to remember the days of national industries, how badly they were run, and how they were dictated to by the unions; but, we have been insane in farming out our 'commodities' (for want of a better word) to foreign ownership at the loss of UK jobs and our own security across so many industries. Good luck to the workers in Port Talbot in their fight to keep a steel industry in UK.
As an exiled Welshman for the past 57 years who once was very familiar with Steel Company of Wales/ British Steel/Corus/Tata I wish that were economically feasible. The
situation is however that the Port Talbot plant is losing circa one million pounds per day and it would take a brave or foolish government to take on that. Ever since the 1970's
I've watched sadly the decline of America's own steel industry to the point where it is a shadow of its former self. And that's without Brexit, and with the advantage of a large
internal demand. There is a very large world over-capacity in the steel industry and Port Talbot has some severe disadvantages. All consumables, including coking coal and
iron ore have to be imported. It's two remaining blast furnaces are dated. To give you an idea, the current modern Thyssen blast furnaces have hearth diameters of about
38 feet and the economics of iron and steel production begin there. I think there may be a strategic argument to be made, but sadly the economics are unavoidable.
Nutty squirrel 8754
Hello proud English man I am a very proud welsh women I’m afraid port talbot was on its knees losing 1 million a day and it wouldn’t be fair to pour taxpayers money into it all the time I live in port talbot and many many people are sick of the pollution it caused GOODBYE blast furnaces rest in peace🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@lindamessam8784 Hi, and thank you, and gareth davies before you (who I had no idea had commented or I would have replied) for your views from a Welsh angle. Of course I can completely understand your 'dislike' of the pollution caused so on that point alone I would bow to your views. My concern, NOT as an Englishman but as a British patriot, is we are leaving ourselves open to the vagaries of any foreign dictator (think putin/jong un/xi ping) for the basic commodities for our infrastructure, domestic goods, and military needs. I am what is now deemed a 'climate denyer' and believe we, the UK, have achieved our 'moral highground' of low carbon emissions simply by passing every part of our self-sufficiency, and manufacturing, to China. I think this will prove a great disservice, and a greater disadvantage, to our grandchildren, and their children, in the decades ahead. However, as I said, I will bow to your local knowledge that not all people are against this change and wish you all well going forward. best wishes, ns.
@@nuttysquirrel8574 thank you😀
Its going to be windmills and rainbows
Net Zero costs jobs and security
the British Political and Administrative Class decided in the 1970s that the UK was to be 'post industrial' and then adopted the EU policy which was likewise to close down UK industry. This is still the the DTI's policy. Just like DEFRA still pursues CAP for our agri-business. The UK overtook France in manufacturing value last year.
I'm all right jack
We cannot lose the steel industry, this is not purely about finances. There are some things that are WORTH costing some money for.
Our politicians never plan ahead they just worried about winning the next election. Thats why we have problems in so many areas. We have not built any resovoirs for decades, we are dumping sewage in the sea because our water treatment cannot cope, now we find out we need nuclear power, we left the EU but no plans until recently to train up skilled staff, we short of Doctors & Dentists most of these problems are because governments over the years have no plans for 20 or 30 years time.
What we need is a Dictator who will be in power forever and who plans in the long term.
Oh wait we have King Charles...
Go and live abroad if you don’t like Britain Ukraine is nice this time of year or maybe russia
Successive governments have run a just in time strategy and been late every time
Hate to say it but I agree with Paul. We NEED steel, we cannot rely on imports. Even if we only use it in war time, we NEED a steel plant ready to go. This is not good enough.
There are.many countries making steel and they can’t wait to sell it to US and cheaper than we make it
Western ministries of defence are talking about the slow walk to WW3 and massive rearmament programmes.
Getting rid of steel making and leaving only arc furnace recycling is a strategic blunder.
Sadly this level of incompetence and lack of foresight is exactly what I’ve come to expect from the Westminster steaming pile.
Don’t waste my time telling me steel is unimportant and not the business of government. Steel making is a vital national asset, especially in times of war.
Russia is now building 100 tanks/month. Britain 20 per annum.
I totally agree with you. This can not be allowed to happen.
@@Yabbers403it is happening
@@lindamessam8784 Yes
Tata is Indian and India 🇮🇳 is not happy with the uk
They are not closing in EU countries.
Tata is a private profit generating entity.
@@King_ofNight they obviously see no perspective for profits in Brexit Britain
Yeah it's an Indian company which plants in UK, Scotland, Netherlands nd other EU countries....but there lose making steel work is in UK why aren't UK government giving them money when Netherlands government give money to TATA to replace there system.
Lack of investment whilst billions d appear for Israel Ukraine and wars fake ppe gear and other dodgy things. Those that say we can’t compete with foreign wage structures should look at Germany and its strong manufacturing base they have to compete with low Chinese wages etc and costs and manage to
Competitiveness, why isnt uk heavy industry and manufacturing competitive?
It’s as if Britain feels some obligation to be the leading force in atomising its own country and becoming Airstrip One
We cannot produce the right type of steel in this country to defend ourselves in a war . We would go into battle throwing cream cakes from electric cars.
Do we make Cream Cakes?
The Tories destroyed heavy industry and manufacturing 1979-97.
Liebour did nothing to reverse this 1997 - 2010.
CONservatives continued looting the nation 2010 - today.
And it will be the same if either of them win the next Election.
No, you will find it was the uncontrolled unions at that time making our products uncompetitive. Maggie just stopped the rot by destroying the power of the unions, who were asking for more and more money for doing less and less. I was there on strike in 1979 with British Steel and saw it first hand. We were the sick man of Europe at that time.
@@stevezodiac491 Thatcher let our industry rot and die or be sold to foreigners.
She also squandered the N Sea Oil windfall on 4 million unemployed and sold off our social housing.
All for some misplaced dogma.
Westminster just looking after London finance services and nothing else
With China not having to worry about silly little things like a fare wage, safe and quality they can undercut the price
They are not closing in EU countries....
Exactly 💯
Because, like every single thing you care to mention, we underinvest in it.
The British ethos appears to be 'short term gain, long term loss' where it should be the opposite.
Yea yea yea
They have a strategy at all? Who'd have guessed.
Because We, Britain, don't own anything, greed has sold all our industries plus the QE2 Bridge, ask Brown when the best time it is to sell gold!
why don't we have a strategy" Bailey is a conservative. Tories have had 14 years to implement such a strategy . As from the first yer of tory rule, apprenticeship aid was stopped. There was O reason, other than financial why Tata made this decision and it is ALL down to brexit. We had Eu protection for our steel industry and the tories threw that away. THAT is one truth that this tory will never admit!
The money spent on this Rwandagate affair could have been used to save our industries surely. 🤷♂️
Sean doesn't understand that you cannot build industrys that are relevant today by throwing away the skill base that got us here in the first place. This is what makes Japan and Korea resilient. I would love to see what engineering skills he has before i listen to any of his arguments seriously.
Key industries should be protected to ensure we can survive without our fair weather friends.
We all need fairweather friends
Watch military enrolment, co-op in Wales?
Were you this bothered when they closed and dismantled teesside / redcar steel works. Thousands of job losses there..
Mans talking about battery infrastructure, what will he do of those batteries if they don’t have any steel for the cars.
British heavy industry doesn't exist anymore. We have lost it to China.....Oh, and just to remind everyone, China are in the process of building a chain of coal fired power stations.
This is devastating for the town of Port Talbot, for South Wales and the UK.
Britain's net zero policy is already one of the lowest in the western World.
Sunak and his his Indian pals are trying to have their way... but it won't end well.
one bill we could live without mps
Stronger strategy?
Do we have a strategy?
It's time to nationalise steel production 😊
I smell communism
And now the talk is about war looming in the distance, it is not a very good time not to have a steel industry. Steel is, almost without comparison, THE strategic material, without it very few weapons can be made. Your government is ether very stupid, or have other agendas.
this country is fast approaching 3 trillion pounds in national debt .whole place is going downhill fast ,pessimism loss of self confidence selfbelief national disunity with no charismatic leader from any party to revive or offer a vision for growth and new prosperity which can only come from profit making capitalist competitve businesses.Collectivist socialism and nationalising loss making business will only enhance and bring forward economic and social collapse
We need to make steel,better to support jobs rather than freeloaders
Why is TATA given so much in Goverment funding? Not just in steel, but in bty's for csrs......where is the same for UK companies?
Otherwise tata would close everything because the EU is the better place to make business.
@@rollerrollerichson6258 so why does the eu also give subsidies to major companies?
@@alanedwards6491 why not? The EU and its member states invest heavy for the good of their people.
@@rollerrollerichson6258 in that case you shouldn't have a problem with the UK making the same investments?
@@alanedwards6491 Why should I have a problem with that? I wish all the best for British working people. Good and secure jobs with high wages.
The problem is, UK can not finance the same subsidies compared to the EU and global companies do and will prefer the EU market.
UK can not compete with the EU.
Brexit is a real mess for the British people.
Sean has no understanding of heavy industry.
This is madness. What will our benefits bill be when all these people depend on this for their livelihoods. We are not doing a good thing here £500 million toget rid of jobs and 3000 on the dole. Lose, lose lose. Scrap net zero win win win. MADNESS.
Wasn’t it Nigel Farage or someone like that said if we didn’t leave Europe our steel industry would close .
Doesn’t he work for this station ?
Black Guy is the conservative and white ginger man is the socialist.. Interesting😂
The WEF said no slave wage is better
Going green is great isn't it....👏👏
EU is going green and they are not closing there.
@rollerrollerichson6258 You are obviously clueless as to what is happening outside the UK...🤔
@@songscoops4205 Am I? The EU and its members have higher "Green Agenda" restrictions and steel factories will not close for the moment.
So whats the difference, when its not green policies?
@rollerrollerichson6258 still clueless..
@@songscoops4205 are you? Thats sad somehow.
What are your believes?
Sholdn't have sold it off
Bailey is very wrong! The steel industry is fundamental for our defence and independence. We need to nationalise it.
No nationalisation we have bailed the steel industry out time after time😊
Your thumbnail title dude really needs some spell check, ffs 😂
Welcome to the net zero 😂😂😂😂make more electric cars 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Easy… net zero…
We're possibly going to WAR ! An they shut down the steel mills !! This is the ( TWILIGHT ZONE ) 😵😵😵😜😜🤣
Stragtey
I would rather support a steel industry rather than support 3000 families with nothing to do. No other jobs in this area. Steel will be needed for ever. and we will be held to ransom for foreign steel
You wouldn’t say that if you lived in port talbot the kicker is most of the Mens family,don’t live in port talbot they live in the leafy suburbs
In these troubled times, why are we abandoning our manufacturing capabilities. If there is war, where the bloody hell will we get the stuff we need to ramp up production of defensive equipment?
I’m sure china will help us out lol
Another win for brexit,….😂,….
All of us who care about this country have got to organise to prevent this steel plant closing,
EU is the better place to make business.
Brexit Brexit Brexit
Let's make this a thing:
RE-INDUSTRIALISATION!!!
Not possible.
Where are the colonies???
To be precise, Great Britain doesn't have India now.
Steel has gone up by over 100% in the last 5 years. So how are the losing 1 million a day?
Their blast furnaces are old and don’t give a good output and everything is in bad shape there
Sean is wrong on this one, the steel works are of strategic importance to the country like gas, coal, oil and connective infrastructure so therefore must be kept, Sean is looking at it from a business view point, anyway, why are the tax payers subsidising green energy.
We can eg
steel from anywhere and we have many many allies w
So pathetic..welcome to rhe wonderful "green jobs"
Wise decision by Tata Steel to pull out. This will help towards preventing climate change.
Tata steel should just focus on getting that Superbaninite production line to India.