I am an adventist in South Africa. I support Dr Vine through and through...His reward is in Heaven for sure. May the Living God continue to reveal the truths amongst us❤
Having Women being ordained as Pastors I don't go with that. We can be BIBLE WORKERS.COUNCILORS AND THEY ARE VARIOUS MISSIONARY DUTIES THAT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S MY TAKE. NAOMI PAUL GUYANA.
“The greatest want of the world is the want of men-men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. {EG White}
Elder pastor ted Wilson president of GC and his team are aware that the church is drifting and falling apart cause many things are going wrong in the church and keeping a blind eye
Prophetic speach! This brave man has not done anything wrong! He just said the truth! God will find the way and protect his faithful servant! We shall pray for Dr.Vine!
Conrad Vine is the man of the time. I am confident God has not shown disapproval for what he has preached. His message makes sense concerning the End-time Commandment Keeping People.
We need more SDA Pastors standing up for the Truth. What’s done in the dark will surely come to the Light. GOD BLESS YOU Pastor Vine. If GOD be for you, who can be against you ❤
Dr. Vine knew this would happen to him. This man is far too astute, to not have been prepared for the pushback... Our Father, has something for him to do. He's going to continue to be a blessing to God's people 🙏 He's blessed, and he and his beloved family will be just fine 🙂 ❤❤
The conference is running scared because Pr Conrad Vine speaks the Truth. God bless Pr Conrad Vine. It would benefit our SDA churches if more Pastors spoke the Truth.🙏📖
Oh nonsense. The SDA church is not “ running scared ” Vine needs to be dumped. The man has had great light and refuses to walk in it. Most of what Im seeing is an abomination Proverbs 6:16-19. He can start his own offshoot or separation ministries he has been dressing up errors . Flat out abomination And Proverbs six is the list for marching orders. Because the angel came dressed and white, talk like an angel.You think he is. And none of you have a good sense to see it .
@karenjohnson3226 Not referring to this sermon on "persecution," but Vine has said numerous things that are wrong and conspiratorial nonesense. Eg, his claims of "Cultural Marxism" infiltrating the church (i.e., something that doesn't exist and is a historically right winged and anti semetic talking point). Another example is his idea that somehow the SDA church was against members engaging with their conscience with regards to the COVID-19 vaccine; despite the fact the official church position was that members should go along with their conscience in taking the vaccine.
It is amazing that pastors who have invited speakers from other denominations who bring in heresy and worldliness into their churches have not received admonition from their respective conferences, but this pastor (Dr. Vine) who speaks the truth, and upholds and adheres to the standards of the church has been censored, and prevented from speaking truth in the Michigan conference. It is sort of a reflection of what is going on in the current political arena of our country. May God guide our consciences to do his will and preserve the integrity of his church.
The SDA church has fallen ever since we voted in the false god the trinity and accepted the gods of Babylon. The gradual acceptance from 1931 until we voted it in 1980. We have nothing to fear of the future accept we FORGET HOW THE LORD HAS LEAD US AND HIS TEACHINGS IN OUR PAST HISTORY.
I’m so glad this is all coming out. I pray people will see the conference for who they are and start studying for themselves so they can truly be lead by God.
I became a Seventh Day Adventist 10 years ago and the first thing I learned was that God is not where the majority is. History teach us that the majority is always wrong
The Son of God too was our example, a mover and a shaker with a Holy boldness derived from his Father in heaven...may all the faithful stand for what is true and right in the eyes of our Father in heaven, and may we all pray for wisdom, courage and strength to serve as is Brother Vine "Shalom" Brothers and Sisters in Christ
This scenario between Dr. Vine and the conference smacks of the history of Elijah & Ahab. When Elijah said that there won't be any rain for 3 & 1/2 yrs because Ahab went 'WOKE', and this caused Israel to become 'BROKE!' Ahab did accuse Elijah of being divisive. He even called him, the 'troubler' of Israel! If the conference can't stand the heat of going BROKE, they need to come out of the WOKE kitchen!
Agree with pastor Vine! One of our son lost his job because he wouldn't take the jab, asked for a letter which was denied by his church SDA, the other son had to make up his own letter quoting the Bible and his own conviction in order to stay in med school the church wouldn't give a letter, other people I know had to draft up there own letter, one son just asked to take his name from the church, thank God not from the message but the church , these are the last days and we have to draw closer to God. I just found out how much money our conference got plus churches that would close during the pandemic I was shocked . We were warned that these days were coming so it shouldn't surprise us, why should I go against Dr Vine for exposing these deeds. God help us let's pray for each other.
Not the churches fault he lost his job, but when they needed something from the church stating their stance on our health message they said no. The mark of the beast is different there will be no general conference, no conference every man for themselves!!
For months now, my wife and I have distributed the tithe like this: 90% of the tithe to the local church to support an itinerant preacher in our district. And we send the remaining 10% to our conference. So at one point we anticipated Pastor Conrad Vine's suggestion.
Those conferences that ordains women, conferences that invites singers that are not of our faith etc, an action must be taken if we are to play a fair game. Banning these preachers will not help us the church but we need to find other means of helping each other. Otherwise, thanks bro am helped by your ministry here in Zambia.
The Conference cannot ban Dr Vine from preaching in halls, invited by churches. (Just like Dr Walter Veith, banned by the German Conference). This is the shaking - let us pray for our leaders and hold fast to the Truth! 🙏🙏
As Bible believers, we are forewarned of persecution to those that follow JESUS, as what happened in the past, and is happening now in Communist Countries. Dr. Conrad Vine knows that this will happen to him one day. His prediction came to him so early. Let us pray for him and the leaders that are doing this to him. Beth Ramos
I definitely agree banning Dr Vine is not going to stop the truth from going forward! We are in very serious times, and we must walk very carefully, and prayerfully. We must also stand behind those ministers like Dr Vine, or we ourselves become accountable before God!
I strongly agree with what you said bro Lawrence. Banning Dr Vine will only aggravate the situation. If our leaders confess that they are preachers for truth then they should humby accept the truth. God ordained them to occupy the high position in our movement but it doesn't mean that the are infallible. Let us earnestly, fervently for our leaders😢
The results of banning Dr Vine is: 1. Dr. Vine's integrity and consecration to God is highlighted. 2. The error of those who are responsible for passing unjust mandates is now more widely known and their error clearly demonstrated. In God's order truth has, and always will, finally triumph. Along with very many others I support Dr. Vine 100 %.
Your right brother, those pastors are neglecting to preach the three angles messages and many of the conference church pastors hate the writings of Ellen white because in them there's truth for our time
Every Words That You Are Saying Brother Lawrence. Is So True. And Things Are Getting Worse. Everything Dr. Vine Is Saying It True, I Don't See What Is The Problems. God Blessing Brother Lawrence. 😥😪🙏🙏
May Almighty God bless our brother Dr. Conrad Vide and preserve him for the glorious work of preparing the saints for the soon return of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ. Send him over to Kenya the Last days gateway for revival and reformation. May God's grace be upon him.
We want Pastor Vine here in the United States. He'll be more effective here. You, as an SDA, stand for the truth in Africa.🎉 we're under One God one voice and one mission
Dear friend. Why speak out of ignorance of scripture. Did Jesus withhold or divert the offertories? Instead He encouraged and appreciated the widow for giving all she had to the religious leaders who were to persecuting and were to kill Jesus. Ours is to do what God requires ie faithfully bringing tithe and offerings in "God's store house" as he wants and rest is not ours.We leave it in the hands of God .Don't bring curses on your self dear.
Not so long ago Danny Shelton suggested we leave our attending church and conference if there are problems with preaching the truth. Pastor Vine needs to relocate to conference who will give freedom of speech and let him present present truth. I know I would. The Florida conference would be a good fit.
“Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.” Luke 6:22-23 KJV
I believe God has chosen Dr. Vine for a special task to sound the alarm and bring awareness to Truth that has been ignored or silence. Im grateful to Pastor Vine for responding to this calling and boldly speaking on behalf of our Father in Heaven. God has enabled and enpowered him. Blessings
Most of our pastors are wolves in sheep's clothing. We the members should by all means stand behind those pastors who are on scripture and truth alone like Eld. VINE. Truth must triumph Jesus help us 🙏 😫 😢
Prayers goes up blessings come down. Let us strenghten each other by being Watchmen and Watchpersons, as we see the day approaching. Let the light of truth found in His word, illuminate our minds. As we understand God's revealed will.
Absolutely correct about ordination of women Elders and Pastors. GC have not approved. If approved is Unbiblical. Pastors, Ministers, Elders and and Church Officers who are disobeying thus saith the Lord or it is written or GC decisions will be held accountable. Local church leaders and Pastors should stand on the truth. Their are 13 Divisions, some are very rebellious against GC decisions, church manuel and policy that that governs/guide this church or the movement King Saul, God's anointed and oppointed King and Prophet Samuel, God's chosen. .......................... ........ And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. 🎉For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. ” 1 Samuel 15:22-23 KJV We must be very very careful in disobeying God's directions in The Bible. Bible must be our standard and test of Faith. Happy Sabbath preparation Respectfully
Women’s ordination is very much biblical. Read Light Bearers take on women’s ordination online and you will see that God is not opposed to women pastors, after all God chose a woman to be his end time prophet Ellen White!
There is already a female pastor where I am. I spoke to her on the phone. She had some good incites tho.... Like nurses should refuse PAY on a Sabbath because it will be work. When God healed on a Sabbath he didn't get PAY for it.
@Zattat005 GOD used Prophetess from the Old Testament era coming down even to Sister our era who was Not a Pastor or Leader. You need to study Bible & SoP for yourself & not quote from men. Know the History & Mission of our Movement please. Don't let anyone's sayso be your Truth. Study line upon line precept upon precept here a little there a little..you will be taught by The HOLY SPIRIT ONLY. Men make mistakes & speak their agendas not always GOD'S to remain in 'good & regular standing'. Women ordination is against GOD & that's why to this day GC has not endorsed it though they haven't openly rebuked the conferences that employ these (Restless Eves) say E G White📚
The question we need to ask is, are the leadership of these conferences being led by the Holy Spirit? By their fruits we will see them expose themselves.
So many Adventists tell me the Church leadership has turned down a dead-end road, but they don't know what to do: Stay in the Church or leave the Church. It is very hard for a lifelong Adventist to depart from the Church organization. It was the same in the Temple at the time Jesus was here. Nobody wanted to get kicked out of the Temple. Read Exekiel, a prophetic book for the time of the end. It speaks about God having to scatter his people away from Pastors to protect them. I am sad that Church people don't read the Scriptures or study deeply, seeking knowledge and understanding. Most don't look at the Sabbath School lesson, except maybe on the way to Church. The Church is no longer a people of the book, as it was in the 1940s and into the 1950s. Today, I find Pastors don't know the Bible that well except maybe to teach their doctrines. Ask a few important questions, and I get a blank stare!
That's not strange those who don't read or study but accept what falls out of leaders mouth will not agree with Dr Vine or even God's spirit for they are (decieved matt24:4,5,24
What is happening in Adventism is called apostasy. But God will raise up faithful persons to speak out. All this is fulfilling of prophecy noted in the SOP.
Did Jesus not divide the church in His day by speaking the truth as dr. Vine speaks the truth today? Yes, He did! God gave us a phrofet who said that our church will appear to fall, but will go through. Our church will be sifted, but the true members will remain. Go on to preach the truth, because they, the false leaders, cannot throw you out phissically!
There's no stopping of this train of infidelity that has been moving but now at full steam at the GC... inspiration says,"nothing will stand in the way of this new age movement " The true church is now in home churches n some in hidden caves of the earth and many are leaving the pollution in the GC n follow Christ in those caves....The Disire of Ages chapter 23...
I think that Dr. Conrad Vine preached an excellent sermon. It may be the last time that some will hear it before they may die death earlier. This sermon needs to be presented as it is without being processed like white sugar after it is made pre-sweetened.
Let’s continue to pray for our pastors… all of them… they are not perfect! The Lord will shake HIS church! (Hebrews 12 v 25-29) there is apostasy in the church, but our church is NOT apostate! God bless you brother in, I love you… Amen.
GOD'S WORD is doing HIS Work & the results lies with GOD 📖📚👀. You're going to be labeled a "Troubler in SDAdventism" Shaking happening! Get Ready! Get Ready! Get Ready!
Not banning or banning Dr. Vine won’t stop those things that you said, but the conference will not apologize or admit their wrong for their actions. So the congregation should divert the tithes and offerings to the conferences that preach present truth and follows the teachings of Jesus Christ and not promoting LGBTQ etc., women’s ordination, ecumenism, money in stocks and bonds and diverting funds, using monies inappropriately, and the clasping of hands with the Roman Church.
Read 1 Corinthians chapter 14 verse 33 to 40. What is the use of having women pastors while we have men to preach as God Jehovah himself did recommend only men to preach. If you want to over rule God's word do it alone. Zambia Africa
Paul's worst enemies were among the Jews, who MADE THE HIGHEST CLAIM TO godliness. It was to this class that Christ said, "Ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God," Mk 12:24. The most bitter opposers of truth TODAY are found among those who PROFESS TO BE ITS DEFENDERS. God has made His people the depositaries of His Law. They must uphold the claims of that down-trodden law against the opposition of; ministers of the gospel, men of learning, men of position and men of authority. The evidence of its binding claims cannot be overthrown, yet its enemies will come again and again to battle urging same arguments; every time refuted and often renewed. Sketches from the life of Paul pg 273.
Brother Lawrence, PLEASE put the Full Sermon by Dr. Vine and ALL other Sermons by Different Preachers etc, in Description, as that would be the RIGHT thing to do - then People can get it ALL into Context. Thank you for doing the Work you're doing for The LORD ☆
I am an adventist in South Africa. I support Dr Vine through and through...His reward is in Heaven for sure. May the Living God continue to reveal the truths amongst us❤
Hundred percent cent
Having Women being ordained as Pastors I don't go with that. We can be BIBLE WORKERS.COUNCILORS AND THEY ARE VARIOUS MISSIONARY DUTIES THAT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S MY TAKE.
NAOMI PAUL GUYANA.
I am an Adventist from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 support Dr. Vine. Keep preaching the truth, May God bless you 🙏
“The greatest want of the world is the want of men-men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. {EG White}
Elder pastor ted Wilson president of GC and his team are aware that the church is drifting and falling apart cause many things are going wrong in the church and keeping a blind eye
Conrad Vine!
Prophetic speach! This brave man has not done anything wrong! He just said the truth! God will find the way and protect his faithful servant! We shall pray for Dr.Vine!
Conrad Vine is the man of the time.
I am confident God has not shown disapproval for what he has preached.
His message makes sense concerning the End-time Commandment Keeping People.
We need more SDA Pastors standing up for the Truth. What’s done in the dark will surely come to the Light. GOD BLESS YOU Pastor Vine. If GOD be for you, who can be against you ❤
Most agree with Pr. Vine. I support him 100%
Dr. Vine knew this would happen to him. This man is far too astute, to not have been prepared for the pushback... Our Father, has something for him to do. He's going to continue to be a blessing to God's people 🙏 He's blessed, and he and his beloved family will be just fine 🙂 ❤❤
I do not think I have heard any Pastor of mine speak Present Truth. I am grateful for this Pastor speaking Truth.
Dr pastor Vine knows about persecution he is not surprised with their actions .
The conference is running scared because Pr Conrad Vine speaks the Truth. God bless Pr Conrad Vine. It would benefit our SDA churches if more Pastors spoke the Truth.🙏📖
Amen
Oh nonsense. The SDA church is not “ running scared ” Vine needs to be dumped. The man has had great light and refuses to walk in it.
Most of what Im seeing is an abomination Proverbs 6:16-19. He can start his own offshoot or separation ministries he has been dressing up errors . Flat out abomination And Proverbs six is the list for marching orders. Because the angel came dressed and white, talk like an angel.You think he is.
And none of you have a good sense to see it .
@@samanthawright4210 completely disagree!! What did he say that is not truth? Name 2!
@karenjohnson3226 Not referring to this sermon on "persecution," but Vine has said numerous things that are wrong and conspiratorial nonesense. Eg, his claims of "Cultural Marxism" infiltrating the church (i.e., something that doesn't exist and is a historically right winged and anti semetic talking point). Another example is his idea that somehow the SDA church was against members engaging with their conscience with regards to the COVID-19 vaccine; despite the fact the official church position was that members should go along with their conscience in taking the vaccine.
We stand strong with Pr Conrad Vine.
It is amazing that pastors who have invited speakers from other denominations who bring in heresy and worldliness into their churches have not received admonition from their respective conferences, but this pastor (Dr. Vine) who speaks the truth, and upholds and adheres to the standards of the church has been censored, and prevented from speaking truth in the Michigan conference. It is sort of a reflection of what is going on in the current political arena of our country. May God guide our consciences to do his will and preserve the integrity of his church.
To ban Dr. Vine is to ban truth. Why are we so afraid of truth?
Amen 👍
Well said!
Praise God. So true. A remnant out of a remnant.
The SDA church has fallen ever since we voted in the false god the trinity and accepted the gods of Babylon. The gradual acceptance from 1931 until we voted it in 1980. We have nothing to fear of the future accept we FORGET HOW THE LORD HAS LEAD US AND HIS TEACHINGS IN OUR PAST HISTORY.
From South Africa. Dr Conrad Vine for president. He is our leader.
Stand for God Pastor and He will stand up for you! We are praying for you.
I agree with Pr Conrad Vine 100%.
I’m so glad this is all coming out. I pray people will see the conference for who they are and start studying for themselves so they can truly be lead by God.
I strongly support Dr.Vine with 2 Timothy 4 : 3-4 May the Lord continue using you in this last days
I'm standing with Dr Conrad vine no matter the cost will be
I became a Seventh Day Adventist 10 years ago and the first thing I learned was that God is not where the majority is. History teach us that the majority is always wrong
The Son of God too was our example, a mover and a shaker with a Holy boldness derived from his Father in heaven...may all the faithful stand for what is true and right in the eyes of our Father in heaven, and may we all pray for wisdom, courage and strength to serve as is Brother Vine
"Shalom" Brothers and Sisters in Christ
This scenario between Dr. Vine and the conference smacks of the history of Elijah & Ahab. When Elijah said that there won't be any rain for 3 & 1/2 yrs because Ahab went 'WOKE', and this caused Israel to become 'BROKE!' Ahab did accuse Elijah of being divisive. He even called him, the 'troubler' of Israel! If the conference can't stand the heat of going BROKE, they need to come out of the WOKE kitchen!
Amen & Amen!!
Same under eli and his sons
That will never happen.
May the Lord take care of Dr. Vine. We need to encourage the one's sounding the warning bell.
Amos 5:10 "Evil men hate him that rebukes in the gate and abhor him that speaks truthfully or uprightly."
Keep up, Dr. Vine in the faith and truth of Jesus. We are praying for you and your family. Glory to God for you!!
Bravo Ps Vine for preach the truth keep the message going, thank you Lawrence
always a "like" for bro Lawrence
The truth will remain the truth 🙏🙏💯🙏✨
Myself and my Household have now started diverting our Tithes to our local church. We are also living in canada !
Agree with pastor Vine!
One of our son lost his job because he wouldn't take the jab, asked for a letter which was denied by his church SDA, the other son had to make up his own letter quoting the Bible and his own conviction in order to stay in med school the church wouldn't give a letter, other people I know had to draft up there own letter, one son just asked to take his name from the church, thank God not from the message but the church , these are the last days and we have to draw closer to God. I just found out how much money our conference got plus churches that would close during the pandemic I was shocked . We were warned that these days were coming so it shouldn't surprise us, why should I go against Dr Vine for exposing these deeds. God help us let's pray for each other.
It's the churches fault your son lost his job? Will you blame the church when he loses everything for not taking the MOB?
Not the churches fault he lost his job, but when they needed something from the church stating their stance on our health message they said no. The mark of the beast is different there will be no general conference, no conference every man for themselves!!
For months now, my wife and I have distributed the tithe like this: 90% of the tithe to the local church to support an itinerant preacher in our district. And we send the remaining 10% to our conference. So at one point we anticipated Pastor Conrad Vine's suggestion.
Very good and we're one accord about tithes
From Philippines, Dr Conrad Vine, God is on your side and we do too, keep on tetting the truth it will set us free
Amen pastor doctor vine god bless you richly
Those conferences that ordains women, conferences that invites singers that are not of our faith etc, an action must be taken if we are to play a fair game. Banning these preachers will not help us the church but we need to find other means of helping each other. Otherwise, thanks bro am helped by your ministry here in Zambia.
The Conference cannot ban Dr Vine from preaching in halls, invited by churches. (Just like Dr Walter Veith, banned by the German Conference). This is the shaking - let us pray for our leaders and hold fast to the Truth! 🙏🙏
How ironic that he preached about persecution in the very conference that is persecuting him!! 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
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The Holy Spirit sees in the future and impressed him to say those things.
As Bible believers, we are forewarned of persecution to those that follow JESUS, as what happened in the past, and is happening now in Communist Countries. Dr. Conrad Vine knows that this will happen to him one day. His prediction came to him so early. Let us pray for him and the leaders that are doing this to him. Beth Ramos
The word is pray for those who persecute you. Let us pray for doctor Vine and his family of faith and his biological family
Ps Vine is a true man of God
If u not persecuted..that means u just going with the flow.
Psalms 55:12-16 "betrayed and persecuted by the very brethren whom we least expect to do so.
I definitely agree banning Dr Vine is not going to stop the truth from going forward! We are in very serious times, and we must walk very carefully, and prayerfully. We must also stand behind those ministers like Dr Vine, or we ourselves become accountable before God!
I strongly agree with what you said bro Lawrence. Banning Dr Vine will only aggravate the situation. If our leaders confess that they are preachers for truth then they should humby accept the truth. God ordained them to occupy the high position in our movement but it doesn't mean that the are infallible. Let us earnestly, fervently for our leaders😢
The results of banning Dr Vine is:
1. Dr. Vine's integrity and consecration to God is highlighted.
2. The error of those who are responsible for passing unjust mandates is now more widely known and their error clearly demonstrated.
In God's order truth has, and always will, finally triumph.
Along with very many others I support Dr. Vine 100 %.
Amen pastor Vine continue to stand for Jesus don't worry with these wicked men God bless 🙏🏿
Thank you bro Lawerence!
Thank you Bro Lawrence for sharing 🙏🏽💙✊🏽
They should be banned too.
They will be banned by God Himself from heaven
Your right brother, those pastors are neglecting to preach the three angles messages and many of the conference church pastors hate the writings of Ellen white because in them there's truth for our time
Every Words That You Are Saying Brother Lawrence. Is So True. And Things Are Getting Worse. Everything Dr. Vine Is Saying It True, I Don't See What Is The Problems. God Blessing Brother Lawrence. 😥😪🙏🙏
May Almighty God bless our brother Dr. Conrad Vide and preserve him for the glorious work of preparing the saints for the soon return of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ. Send him over to Kenya the Last days gateway for revival and reformation. May God's grace be upon him.
We want Pastor Vine here in the United States. He'll be more effective here. You, as an SDA, stand for the truth in Africa.🎉 we're under One God one voice and one mission
@@josheboyzl4274 God will send Dr Conrad Vine where ever is His Will.
Brother Lawrence I agree with you a hundred percent
Dr vine a true watchman, boycotted General Conference
Some conferences invest tithe money into stocks????!!! What?!!!!! Where????!!!
The GC even invested in the Arms(Weapons )Companies etc. And some are still saying: “don’t talk about the GC leaders, shut up! It is God’s church.”
Its gambling!
Yes! They have been known to invest in 7-11 stores, which sell alcohol and cigarettes.. that’s when Ted Wilson’s dad was president. Don’t know now.
Ive heard of them investing for awhile already
Wait wait WHAT???!! 😮😮😮😮😮 hold up!!!!!
Good words from Bro.Lawrence.....amen🙏
divert ALL tithes to faithful pastors. Go Woke, Go Broke.
Dear friend. Why speak out of ignorance of scripture. Did Jesus withhold or divert the offertories? Instead He encouraged and appreciated the widow for giving all she had to the religious leaders who were to persecuting and were to kill Jesus. Ours is to do what God requires ie faithfully bringing tithe and offerings in "God's store house" as he wants and rest is not ours.We leave it in the hands of God .Don't bring curses on your self dear.
Not so long ago Danny Shelton suggested we leave our attending church and conference if there are problems with preaching the truth. Pastor Vine needs to relocate to conference who will give freedom of speech and let him present present truth. I know I would. The Florida conference would be a good fit.
Danny hasn’t been pure either; look up save-3abn
Danny preaches about morality and yet he is on wife number 4 ; he needs to clean up himself.
“Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.”
Luke 6:22-23 KJV
I would much rather send my tithe to Pastor Vine than to the GC. Furthermore all of us who agree with Dr Vine are now also banned!!!
I believe God has chosen Dr. Vine for a special task to sound the alarm and bring awareness to Truth that has been ignored or silence. Im grateful to Pastor Vine for responding to this calling and boldly speaking on behalf of our Father in Heaven. God has enabled and enpowered him. Blessings
Most of our pastors are wolves in sheep's clothing. We the members should by all means stand behind those pastors who are on scripture and truth alone like Eld. VINE. Truth must triumph Jesus help us 🙏 😫 😢
Prayers goes up blessings come down. Let us strenghten each other by being Watchmen and Watchpersons, as we see the day approaching.
Let the light of truth found in His word, illuminate our minds. As we understand God's revealed will.
Tithe to Local Church Budgets. Worship in Small Groups. Prepare.
THANK YOU BROTHER LAWRENCE..
Praying for Dr. Vine. Keep striving brother!
I think you are absolutely right Lawrence. I think it will make it worse.
Absolutely correct about ordination of women Elders and Pastors. GC have not approved. If approved is Unbiblical. Pastors, Ministers, Elders and and Church Officers who are disobeying thus saith the Lord or it is written or GC decisions will be held accountable. Local church leaders and Pastors should stand on the truth. Their are 13 Divisions, some are very rebellious against GC decisions, church manuel and policy that that governs/guide this church or the movement
King Saul, God's anointed and oppointed King and Prophet Samuel, God's chosen.
.......................... ........
And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. 🎉For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. ”
1 Samuel 15:22-23 KJV
We must be very very careful in disobeying God's directions in The Bible. Bible must be our standard and test of Faith.
Happy Sabbath preparation
Respectfully
We are Not to have any creed only the Bible. 28 apostasy belief📝 by mortals
Women’s ordination is very much biblical. Read Light Bearers take on women’s ordination online and you will see that God is not opposed to women pastors, after all God chose a woman to be his end time prophet Ellen White!
There is already a female pastor where I am. I spoke to her on the phone. She had some good incites tho.... Like nurses should refuse PAY on a Sabbath because it will be work. When God healed on a Sabbath he didn't get PAY for it.
@Zattat005 GOD used Prophetess from the Old Testament era coming down even to Sister our era who was Not a Pastor or Leader.
You need to study Bible & SoP for yourself & not quote from men. Know the History & Mission of our Movement please. Don't let anyone's sayso be your Truth. Study line upon line precept upon precept here a little there a little..you will be taught by The HOLY SPIRIT ONLY.
Men make mistakes & speak their agendas not always GOD'S to remain in 'good & regular standing'.
Women ordination is against GOD & that's why to this day GC has not endorsed it though they haven't openly rebuked the conferences that employ these (Restless Eves) say E G White📚
@@pirateshadesproductions these same (Restless Eves) are allowing sodomy within our Movement as I type! Women are not to lead GOD'S Church period.
God bless this channel
Isn’t it funny that the conference banned Dr. Vine for what he SAID but won’t correct what they DID.
I also support Dr.Vine for speaking truth. May God continue to bless him
Thank you for bringing up all this information and that sermon. I watched it when he preached it.
SOP says the Church will APPEAR to fall, but it will through to the end. Stay in the Truth and the SDA church! ❤🙏🙏🙏
Somebody had to stand firm...Thank you Pastor Vine, the Lord is leading you.
Persecution is around the world 🌎 but just not in the United States yet but its coming slowing but surely.
It is now
Already the devil has built opposition within Adventist soon those who are faithful are going to feel the wrath
Dr Vine doesn't have a problem. It's our conferences that has one.
I'm from Papua New Guinea. I dont see anything wrong with Dr.Vine's preaching. Instead vote him for next GC president.
The pains but it is still truth and it cannot change. It's the naked truth and I agree with Pastor Vine 111%
We do not support Dr Vine, we support the TRUTH he spoke.
The question we need to ask is, are the leadership of these conferences being led by the Holy Spirit? By their fruits we will see them expose themselves.
If the conference can punish for righteousness, then the individuals can punish the conferences for wickedness...
Pastor Conrad Vine need to be the next president of the conference.
Amen!! But that would never happen. He is much to intelligent and truthful!!
So many Adventists tell me the Church leadership has turned down a dead-end road, but they don't know what to do: Stay in the Church or leave the Church. It is very hard for a lifelong Adventist to depart from the Church organization. It was the same in the Temple at the time Jesus was here. Nobody wanted to get kicked out of the Temple.
Read Exekiel, a prophetic book for the time of the end. It speaks about God having to scatter his people away from Pastors to protect them.
I am sad that Church people don't read the Scriptures or study deeply, seeking knowledge and understanding. Most don't look at the Sabbath School lesson, except maybe on the way to Church. The Church is no longer a people of the book, as it was in the 1940s and into the 1950s. Today, I find Pastors don't know the Bible that well except maybe to teach their doctrines. Ask a few important questions, and I get a blank stare!
Now pastor Stephen Bohl can sleep better knowing that Dr Vine is here to wake him and the others up
Bringing in secular singers and them speaking in gibberish.
That's not strange those who don't read or study but accept what falls out of leaders mouth will not agree with Dr Vine or even God's spirit for they are (decieved matt24:4,5,24
They are infallible, and no one can stop them. They have kingly power and authority by satan that controles them.
They will nor change either.
What is happening in Adventism is called apostasy. But God will raise up faithful persons to speak out. All this is fulfilling of prophecy noted in the SOP.
They will be banned from God and from heaven if they don't repent
The others aren't banned because they didn't speak about the money. Mention the money and they lose it.
Did Jesus not divide the church in His day by speaking the truth as dr. Vine speaks the truth today? Yes, He did!
God gave us a phrofet who said that our church will appear to fall, but will go through. Our church will be sifted, but the true members will remain. Go on to preach the truth, because they, the false leaders, cannot throw you out phissically!
There's no stopping of this train of infidelity that has been moving but now at full steam at the GC...
inspiration says,"nothing will stand in the way of this new age movement " The true church is now in home churches n some in hidden caves of the earth and many are leaving the pollution in the GC n follow Christ in those caves....The Disire of Ages chapter 23...
I thank God for pastor Vine denied him self for nothing but truth. Pastors come out of error stand for God.
I think that Dr. Conrad Vine preached an excellent sermon. It may be the last time that some will hear it before they may die death earlier. This sermon needs to be presented as it is without being processed like white sugar after it is made pre-sweetened.
Let’s continue to pray for our pastors… all of them… they are not perfect! The Lord will shake HIS church! (Hebrews 12 v 25-29) there is apostasy in the church, but our church is NOT apostate! God bless you brother in, I love you… Amen.
GOD'S WORD is doing HIS Work & the results lies with GOD 📖📚👀.
You're going to be labeled a "Troubler in SDAdventism"
Shaking happening!
Get Ready!
Get Ready!
Get Ready!
I like to read the commemts cuz i get to learn things that i didnt kno that goes on in the religion.
Not banning or banning Dr. Vine won’t stop those things that you said, but the conference will not apologize or admit their wrong for their actions. So the congregation should divert the tithes and offerings to the conferences that preach present truth and follows the teachings of Jesus Christ and not promoting LGBTQ etc., women’s ordination, ecumenism, money in stocks and bonds and diverting funds, using monies inappropriately, and the clasping of hands with the Roman Church.
Jesus' commission in Matthew is for us to go and teach, who is the conference to ban the Pastor?
Read 1 Corinthians chapter 14 verse 33 to 40.
What is the use of having women pastors while we have men to preach as God Jehovah himself did recommend only men to preach.
If you want to over rule God's word do it alone. Zambia Africa
So sad the scripture is fulfilled by us as Jews fulfilled prophecies of doom
Adventist members hello, can we run GC better than our leaders..????
Paul's worst enemies were among the Jews, who MADE THE HIGHEST CLAIM TO godliness.
It was to this class that Christ said, "Ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God," Mk 12:24.
The most bitter opposers of truth TODAY are found among those who PROFESS TO BE ITS DEFENDERS.
God has made His people the depositaries of His Law. They must uphold the claims of that down-trodden law against the opposition of; ministers of the gospel, men of learning, men of position and men of authority.
The evidence of its binding claims cannot be overthrown, yet its enemies will come again and again to battle urging same arguments; every time refuted and often renewed. Sketches from the life of Paul pg 273.
We need more men like Pastor Conrad Bowen. Are there more men like him in these conferences?
Who's Conrad Bowen???
Brother Lawrence, PLEASE put the Full Sermon by Dr. Vine and ALL other Sermons by Different Preachers etc, in Description, as that would be the RIGHT thing to do - then People can get it ALL into Context. Thank you for doing the Work you're doing for The LORD ☆