How to Stabilize Wood and Why Should You do it?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- How to stabilize wood and why should you do it are the topics of this weeks video. Stabilizing wood or resin impregnating wood with stabilizing resin has been something I have wanted to do for a while now. I was kind of intimidated until i did some research on stabilizing wood with Cactus Juice Stabilizing Resin. Also known as Vacuum Stabilization, this process is not as intimidating as I once thought. I found a few good sources of information and I will link them below. I also will link the Cactus Juice, vacuum chamber, vacuum pumps, toaster oven, and oven thermometers. As I found out Stabilizing worthless wood, or punky wood can be lots of fun!
#woodstabilization #stabilizewood #worthlesswood
CACTUS JUICE - turntex.com/
Tell them Jake Thompson from Saturday Morning Cartoons sent ya.
My Blanks www.northsidec...
Join The Club www.northsidec...
Amazon Links.
As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Vacuum Chamber www.amazon.com...
Vacuum Pump www.amazon.com...
Cheaper Vacuum Pump www.amazon.com...
Toaster Oven www.amazon.com...
Oven Thermometers www.amazon.com...
Moisture meter www.amazon.com...
Check out these channels for more information on Stabilizing
Heath Knuckles / @heathknuckles_tasty_t...
Zac Higgins / nvwoodwerks
Casey Martin / xxmnms
PLEASE SUPPORT MY CHANNEL!
PATREON Support / jakethompson
Woodworking Plans jayscustomcreat...
Buy a Northside Shirt teespring.com/...
My Instagram / jake_thompson670 - Навчання та стиль
Frequently asked questions about wood stabilizing ua-cam.com/video/M3BJyyf0BMY/v-deo.html
just for some information water will boil in in good vacuum at around 80 deg. f. so i guess you could use your vacuum pot to draw off moisture without adding heat to your shop and maybe cheaper as well, especially when its 90 or 95 deg.in your shop.
Hi, great video well detailed. Do you leave the vacuum pump ON for the full duration when sacking all the air out of the wood? Or just like the pressure pot once it gets to the desired level switch off and leave as it is?
Thanks for watching David. You have to leave on the pump the entire time you are pulling air out. It says that specifically in the cactus juice instructions. 👍
@@JakeThompson Thanks Jake really appreciate your reply 😀
I've watched a good few videos where they've 'stabilised' the wood before turning and until now I have never completely understood why. Thanks for taking the time to explain in a no nonsense way the why and the how. I love your work man 5⭐'s
Gordon Chapman Thank you very much Gordon. Glad you got something out of it., this is a pretty fun process.. jump right in.. 👍👍👊
👊
Hello everyone!! Thanks for stopping by for the video!! I have found this to be a pretty rewarding and satisfying process.. I hope you got something out of this, and I will see y’all next time!! Check out some of the things I make with Stabilized wood. www.northsidecustomcrafts.com/new-products
I've been doing a ton of research about this and keep coming across the topic of pump failure from the vapor of the stabilizer getting into the internal plastic parts of the pump. You have talked to educated people who have experience with this, what have they said and what is your personal experience? ? I'm about to buy the same chamber but probably going with the cheaper pump. Thanks. Great video.
Chris Mclemore Fishing Absolutely right Chris. I was told to change the pump oil after every cycle. I can see why too.. You can watch the oil get pretty nasty through the sight glass. The pump oil is cheap. I have changed to every time with no problems yet. If and when the pump I have fails, I will be getting the cheaper one. Thanks for watching Chris!👍
@@JakeThompson what oil are you using?? Just wondering Since you change it so often.
Chris Mclemore Fishing Its Robinair high vacuum pump oil.. here’s a link www.amazon.com/Robinair-13203-Premium-High-Vacuum/dp/B000X1E59S I have it listed in my amazon store. The pumps don’t hold very much, I bought a gallon, it should last a long time!!
@@JakeThompson okie doke. Thanks. Keep em coming.
The 52 dis likes must be people not into wood working
gizmo atplay I think you are correct Gizmo!!
I think there are people out there who do nothing but dislike videos all day. It's all they have in their miserable lives.
UGH you're gonna cost me a lot of money today !
The Pohl Barn Productions Haha... but it’s fun
Excellent info brother! You’re hooked! 😁 Thanks for the mention man! 👊
Heath Knuckles Yeah, I’m definitely Hooked Brother!! This stuff is pretty fun to do!!👍👊
@@JakeThompson I got some yellow cedar burrl it's got small spots that isn't solid wood. Small like a lead in a pencil ✏
Question will stabilization fill them inside?
@@Captaraknospider I did a burl and just kept coating it until it stopped soaking it in..
I know this video has been out for a while but thank you so much for making it. I have a couple of questions though. You leave the vacuum chamber and pump on over night. could you turn off the pump and the vacuum will still work? is it dangerous leaving the pump on? what I mean is would the pump burn out or the vacuum chamber go over its recommended pressure? I want to start stabilising some wood and have the equipment but the lack of knowledge. thanks in advance Jake. I hope you can help me. Wendy
Thanks Wendy, since this video, the longest I’ve had to leave the pump on is for about 5 hours.. I don’t think it’s dangerous leaving it on and it can’t over vacuum. It’s only going to go as high as the atmosphere will let it go. The cactus juice clearly states to leave the pump on during this process. The only safety concern is to make sure the vacuum chamber you use for this has a glass lid and not a plastic lid.. The plastic lids being under vacuum for this long and with the cactus juice in it.. they will crack, leak, and break. I hope this helps you out
Jake
@@JakeThompson Thank you so much Jake. This has helped a great deal. I do have a glass lid vacuum chamber and a great pump so I now need to buy a mini oven lol Thanks again Wendy
Thank you! I've been doing resin for a bit as jewelry and I have been looking to up my game. I'm good at it and have an abundance of nice wood and your videos are understandable and let me know the basics that I need for what I'd like to do. Taking this to the next level will be fun 😉
Izzy Queenbee I’m glad you enjoyed the video and got something out of it.. I try to explain things the best I can. Do you have an Instagram or something showing your work??
Nice.
But, yeah…. Anything Robinair is gonna be ridiculous price wise.
@@capt251978 yeah.. you are right.. and it’s still working 👍👍
I'm conflicted. I've been wanting to do this for a while, and now with the addition of knife making, I'm seeing more reason to do it, but dang that is a lot of time and expense invested for something I may not use very often. I may just buy stabilized wood for my projects. It's not that any of this seems hard, it just seems time consuming and if I'm not doing a lot the resin is going to go bad before I use it.
ManCraftingTM Yeah I hear ya on the time it takes.. I like it because I can do all of the time consuming processes, besides cooking, while I’m at work.. I’m turning mallets today with the wood I stabilized, I can’t wait to see how they turn out.. Thanks for watching Chad!! 👍👍
Jake Thompson don’t get me wrong. I want to do it. It’s just a big investment when I can get stabilized blanks for a marginal price difference. Now, if I’m turning it makes more sense. I’ll probably end up doing it. 🤷🏻♂️. Because.
@@ManCrafting You can use smaller containers. Such as tupperware bowls that are a much closer fit to your product and add 25 to 30% more than needed to cover your blanks. You can still use the residual, but it is far less than what was shown here. He didn't mention the air powered vacuum pump. Cheap venturi "pumps" powered by compressed air. They don't draw as deeply as the mechanicals, but in this case they should do quite well. But set a smaller container into your vacuum chamber and use far less resin. I hate waste!!! I try to keep to 5% or less.
Ive watched this ten times now. Thanks for being so detailed with your explanations. Very helpful.
Very welcome Zac
Jake.......2 things......I like your Hotspurs banner. 😃 Second........have you ever had the need to pressure your soak time on denser woods? Thanks for the video - you have given me some neat ideas. I have had the dickens of a time with antler......still working on perfecting that material. Carl Hill
Thank you.. the I just do the same with all woods although.. I’m not sure with hardwoods it’s as necessary as softwoods or burls.. 👍👍👍👍
Great video. So helpful, especially since I prefer to use wood for my knife handles. Stabilizing the wood first will really add value to my work.
Awesome!! I’m glad I could help you out.. I appreciate you watching my videos. 😄👊👍
CAn you use Cactus Juice without a toaster oven
@@TeresaKuehl heat is what makes it solidify.. so, you have to dry it in the first step and heat it in the last step.. You have to have some sort of oven to do it 😀
Thank you Jake very useful information as I am just getting into this kind of thing it will come in very handy. On a completely unrelated topic I noticed you have a map of Australia and also a Melbourne Storm flag hanging in the background however I did detect an American accent just a little curious, do you have a connection to us folks here in Australia. I am in Sydney.
I have a friend named Dirk from sumos projects.. he sent me the flag and I made the clock/map in a 4x2 challenge 👍
I’ve always used Viagra to stabilise my wood.
stuart cole 👏 Awesome
LOL
That's a good one.
I did not know it was ok to run the vacuum pump for hours on end. I usually pull a vacuum, close the valves, and turn the pump off and let it soak under vacuum. Repeat every couple of hours.
Ryan Kirk the instructions on the cactus juice say to leave the pump on. I just make sure to change the vacuum pump oil after every use.
I really like your videos. I'm just starting out. I have a question about the top to your vacuum chamber. I need a new top to mine the first time I used it the top cracked. Do you know where I could get a new one? Thanks
great video jake thank you im into knife making where can i buy un stabilized burls for a good price can you post a link maybe thanks again Mark😀👍
I’m glad you enjoyed the video .. I get my burls at worldwide burl on Instagram
Good video...now I can stabilize the spalted wood for my knife handles
Awesome.. have fun 🦾🦾
Thank you Jake for a great video, lots of very good information. That sure looks like a Melbourne Storm flag on your wall? It's a shame the STORM aren't the same since Billy Slater left the team.
Do you turn the vacuum pump off and close the valve when you reach maximum vacuum or do you keep the pump running for the full 24 hours?
ARDC Guru I keep the pump running the entire time.. about 12 hours is the most I have ran it after this video.. The instructions state to keep the pump running.
Jake Thompson thank you
Hello Jake, is it possible to change color of the cactus juice? Let say..blue adding pigment maybe?
Thank you Robert… you can dye stabilize wood.. I haven’t done it but a quick search on here will get you headed in the right direction 👍
I hear air is the release valve open w cactus juice curing ( open a tiny bit?) Thank you
This video will explain it pretty well.. ua-cam.com/video/M3BJyyf0BMY/v-deo.htmlsi=4tPxdpsod1qGBNDB
Is there another stabilizer other than cactus juice. That is a brand name.
There are others but I haven’t used any.. maybe a quick google search will get you there.. 👍
So was it 4hrs total time to bake the treated wood or did you have to do it longer?
Depending on the thickness of the wood.. just set a timer for 5 hours on everything now… it’s ok to go longer but it’s not good to go not long enough. 👍
How do you do wood that is say 6 x3 feet then because I and looking at doing a epoxy river table ?
I would just coat that wood with resin to seal it
can stabilize driftwood.(fresh and saltwater) this way to use for pen turning blanks?
After it’s dried.. yes it can be. 👍
It’s pretty bad to shut your vac off when pulling a vacuum. You should let it pull atmosphere before shutdown. Not doing that lessens the life of the pump.
Good to know, thanks
So if the level of the cactus juice is to high
It will get sucked into the vacuum pump?
Yes .. I watch it when I first start the vacuum. That’s when it will bubble the highest
Thank you. Thank you. Thank You...
I have wondered about this for a very long time..
Thank you for posting this video...
VMK The Forest Hermit Very welcome.. it’s pretty easy when you have the steps down.. 👍👍👍👊
Great video Jake. I’m sure I’ll be looking at this again when I start turning wood that needs to be stabilized. Thanks.
WB Fine Woodworking Very Welcome.. I’m glad you enjoyed it!!👍👍👊👊
How do you know what chamber is good and what isnt? Amazon has some that say... no Wood
If I’m t has a glass lid, it’s ok to stabilize in it.. a plastic lid won’t last
Jake you're on FIRE my friend, This video answered so many questions for me. Also, I have bookmarked your store on my computer for future purchased. Stay well my friend and thank you
Protect your DIGITS Creations Awesome!!! I’m glad I can help out!!! And thank you for helping me out!!!👍👍👊👊
I will be using your Amazon store as much as possible my friend.
Protect your DIGITS Creations Thank you. Thank you!!!
you cooked that for four hrs. but how do you know when its done?
It will look dry.. the wet look will be gone.. if I have any doubt.. I cook it for longer.
@@JakeThompson Thank you
Great video. Hello Jake I am one of your newer subscribers. I am working on setting up a system. I am using your links for the tank and vacuum tank. I am interested in the 5 gal container you show in your video which fit nicely in the chamber. I would like to know where you get them from.
I purchased the white bucket at Lowe’s.. you can get then at any hardware store. I’m glad you enjoy the videos, welcome to the club and I have plenty more to come!! 👍👍👊
I make canes for a hobby, most cane handles are like soft woods. What kind of wood that isn't recommended to harden? If any. Could you do a video on prices for all the equipment you need to harden the wood? Thanks I enjoyed all your videos. Cliff from Social Circle, Ga.
Clifford Durrance All of the equipment for stabilizing are in the description. The links to buy these items are there for you to see the prices or buy if you want.. I’m glad you enjoy my videos.
It seems that you can’t buy denatured alcohol here any more, what can you use instead?
Hi Jake thanks for the video mate. Quick question. You mentioned that your pump was overpowered. Im looking at a unit that has a 3cfm pump with it. Is that strong enough? What one did you use and which one did you mean when you said you should have got the cheaper one? Thanks for your time mate appreciate it :)
Hello, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I put links in the description to the pump I used and a cheaper pump that will also work.. all of the pumps will work.. the more powerful pumps will get up to full vacuum faster is all. 👍👍
@@JakeThompson awesome thanks for replying! And ... maybe replace that Melbourne Storm flag with a Parramatta Eels flag ;)
Do you ALWAYS put wood in the toaster oven to dry before you put it in the cactus juice?
Yes I always make sure it’s dry
Won’t holding wood in a vacuum remove the moisture as well?
I have heard of people drying the wood in a vacuum chamber, but I’ve only heard of it. Not seen it or tried it.
Future knifemaker here, this video helped me so much setting up everything ! Thank you, i have a lot of scale to mess with now !
Spc Madoule Super cool, glad I could help!!
Really interesting. I didn't know I could do that.
Thank you.. it’s a pretty cool process 👍👍
10:30 had me looking for my phone for a second. 🤦♂️
I just had to leave that part in there. 😂😂
I am planning on doing my first acrylic lamp “4X 4 “ X 8” with a piece of maple burl, my question do I need to do all of this for a small piece of burl. Thank you
You can coat the burl with resin to seal it instead
Thanks a lot ! I’ve asked the very same question weeks ago on an other channel never received a reply, this was very fast. I already purchased a California 5gal Pressure pot but still going to purchase the vacuum chamber and compressor . I live down here in the tropics the temperature during the summer is very high I was thinking of placing these pieces of Burl in vacuum bags and leave them out under the sun for a few days. Save on electricity. Thanks again an Happy Holidays.
Getting close to actually doing some stabilizing... Had to come back and sharpen up a bit! Great explanation like always.
Thanks Greg.. I appreciate ya 👍👍
Put the cactus juice in the refrigerator to make it last longer
👍👍👍
What size vacuum pot would you recommend?
I like the 5 gallon one I have.. I do bigger sessions at one time so the smaller ones don’t work for me.
How is that vacuum pump holding up? Just curious if it's started smoking after 12 hours of use for one item?
If so have you bought a better vacuum pump or is that one still running strong?
It’s held up fine.. I would change the oil after every long run.. cactus juice has changed their formula and the pump doesn’t need to stay on anywhere near as long.. I change the oils after every 5 or 6 runs now.. as far as smoking… I have a couple different vacuum pumps.. they all steam a bit and it can be noticeable in the shop.. but I wouldn’t call it smoking.
@@JakeThompson Thats great to hear. I have two vacuum pumps for vacuum forming, where they are on for only minutes at a time, they tend to smoke or put a fine oil mist in the air... I'm in a one car garage though, so I may notice it more than you. Can't wait to give this a try.
Thanks for sharing. I need to do that to some copilot.
👍👍
Can you add some dye, mica powder, or other pigment to the cactus juice?? I think it would make for an interesting piece to put on a lathe, if it can be done.
It can be done. Cactus juice makes dyes to put in the cactus juice to dye stabilize
@@JakeThompson Thank you!!!!!
Now I know another great way to sink driftwood in the fish tank.
😂👍
I bet your wife is pissed that you messed up her bath towels.
I’m single .. I buy my own bath towels.. I’m glad you got lots of information out of this video. 👍
Just a quick question about the baking .. I followed all the instructions I have seen online and provided with the Cactus Juice ..all worked well .. I got my oven to 200°F (or 1° or 2° ±) and put my work in ...I found it produced a lot of smoke, (as it drips into the drip tray).. none of the videos I have seen mention this .. am i doing something wrong? ... it disapated after a while but initially it was quite a lot.
The smoke is just the steam coming off the wood while some cactus juice seeps out into the drip tray. It’s normal
@@JakeThompson Thanks .. I figured but I had not seen it in any of the videos that i have watched .. there was quite a bit seeping out .. time to get some good ventilation going .. thanks for the reply! Second question .. what do you use to "polish" once you have sanded etc?
@@roybruce7997 here ya go ua-cam.com/video/Y9MBEA0Pgyo/v-deo.html
Man, what a fantastic and informative video. I learned s much.
Thank you.
Subscribed!!!
Ben Hayat Awesome.. I’m glad you enjoyed it.. welcome to the channel. 👍👍👊
Dear sir, the wood can be lathed for its stabilized, and what is its degree of moisture allowed for stabilization.
Manuel Barreto The wood I Stabilized in this video was very weak and I don’t think it would survive turning, of course I did waste more than I would have liked. I could probably cut it with the bandsaw or shape it somehow. As far as the moisture, when the wood stops losing weight when drying, that’s when it’s time to stabilize it.. I’m sure that’s not exactly zero percent, but pretty close. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you! 👍
muchas gracias
Thanks so much for making understandable videos! Now, I bought my Cactus Juice from William Woodright in Ontario, it didn't come with any instructions and the instructions for my vacuum pump say not to run it for an extended period of time. In saying that, I would assume that running this process every couple of hours as Ryan Kirk mentioned would be ok?
Gisele Grenier The directions say to run the pump for the entire process.. I’ve done several running the pump nonstop. I just change the pump oil after every use. I’m kind of curious if there is a difference. Maybe someone can test it both ways. I’m glad I could help ya out! 👍👍
What kinds of wood would benefit from this process ? Obviously wood which has a natural higher air content would be able to absorb more of the resin but what about the denser hardwoods ?
Thom Vogan You are exactly right.. Burl’s benefit the most because they are like a sponge. Very light and full of air. Hardwoods will benefit less because they won’t soak up as much.
The difference is cell wall strength..
No need to release the vacuum, just soak it with vacuum.
I would of left it in vacuum to make sure all air gets out than release vacuum where some air might of got in it again
You'd be surprised at how many videos show this, but don't tell you what they are using it for. Only in the last seconds did you say mallet. What else do you use it for, and what precautions do you use carving it, if any?
sclogse1 The wood becomes very dusty when you turn or carve it. I use a respirator when I’m carving stabilized wood.. I use stabilized wood to use with resins.. bowls, vases, pen blanks
@@JakeThompson Yeah, in the last hour I got pretty caught up. Just watched a guy making very custom tool handles, adding more resin later in cut out areas of the handles to get a translucent effect. Very cool. My father collected some small piece of hardwood from Brazil back in the 1950's, of which I still have. ABout an 1/8th inch thick. Has a glass like quality...I understand it's illegal wood these days. I gave some to Dan Macchiarini in San Francisco, my town, who makes jewelry, rings, etc with mixed material. Otherwise I'd still just be staring at it... Dan's father brought modernist jewelry to the west coast in the 1950's. They named a street in North Beach after him. I have a few rings from Dan. Check out the rings on his site. www.macreativedesign.com/shop
So many great tips from the video AND the comments. I never thought about stabilizing wood before. I recently acquired a nice piece of wood from a tree that was hit by lightening. Its light and dark and all shades of beautiful browns in between. I planned to make knife handle blanks from it, but now I can do them correctly. I'm new at this but I know what I like and I like hanging out here with you Jake and your subscribers. Liked and Subbed.
MustangWriter Awesome!!! Welcome aboard.. there’s tons to be learned just in the comments.. I’m glad you enjoy... plenty more to come.. 👍👍
This was very helpful. A quick overview and walkthrough of the process. I got my chamber this week and used this video to check my steps. Showing when to stop the vacuum was most helpful.
Awesome.. I’m glad I could help you out.. 👍👍
Great video, Jake! Something to think about before chucking up burl wood in the lathe. Thanks!
Downeast Thunder Creations Very Welcome!! Thank you for checking it out!👍👊
Jake, from your accent, you sound Texan (same here if so - Azle/Ft Worth), I like that burl you had, want to share where you get it?
Gary Spruill I live in Amarillo. I get the Burl off of EBay.. plenty to chose from there.
I would have liked to see what you did with the piece of wood to decide if the trouble was worth it.
Ta-Da ua-cam.com/video/QCQnWCowSWM/v-deo.htmlsi=U6PFs4_hlyexmGgN
@@JakeThompson wow! Very nice.
Melbourne Storm Flag!?!?
Didn't expect to see one of them in the background lol
Great vid!
Moka Twenty Thank you.. my buddy Dirk from Sumo’s projects sent it to me!! 👍👍
i found a small stump bleached white from sun and water, very soft and light. sanded and scraped it. want to keep it from self destruction in sun and rain. plan on planting "hens and chicks" in
the hole at stump end and erecting in a garden. what chemicals should i use?
Vacuum chamber or pressure pot, which is better?
They both have different functions for different processes.
Wouldn't a microwave work ass well?
It would burn the wood.
Im coating cedar mugs. Suppose stabilizing will help with the finish?
It will help not get air bubbles.. do the cedar cups not finish well??
@@JakeThompson The grain of the wood looks awesome due to the topography of the species. I seal the wood with a light coat of epoxy and I do get bubbles on the first coat. I have to reapply 3-4 more coats to reach a reasonable smooth finish. I think I need a thinner resin for this application.
Good precise video. I've been thinking of stabilizing some pen blanks and small burl pieces for pendants for my granddaughters. I just wonder what the return on investment is comparing what all you spent on equipment, Cactus Juice AND time with the cost of just buying a pre-stablized burl? I'm guessing if this is a good portion of your income and you do a lot of stabilizing for projects you're selling it might be cost effective. For a hobbyist like me it might not make sense. You video answered all my questions about the process.
Awesome!! I’m glad I could help you out.. You are probably right.. it might be more cost effective to buy stabilized wood if you only need it every now and then.
Thanks for your info all taken in I'm in Australia
Telstra Orana Mall Thanks Mate! Glad I could help out!!
Nice to meet you. I ordered my equipment, use, vacuum chamber Cactus Juice., and Vacuum generator. I am learning the stabilizing first then the Resin. Thank you for sharing your knowledge sp freely
Absolutely.. my pleasure!! 👍👍
Can veneer be made from the stabilized wood?
That’s a great question and I can’t think of a reason why it can’t be done..
Jake! I know I'm late to this video, but is there any way to do this with a large slab of wood?
You can seal the wood with epoxy, I’ve done a burl slab and it soaked in several coats of epoxy before it settled on the surface.. I’m not sure if that’s stabilizing the wood but if you are doing a River table or something like that.. you can just coat the wood to seal in the moisture and air so the epoxy doesn’t react with it.
@@JakeThompson thanks so much for the response! I make river tables but I usually finish with Rubio so you can still feel the wood grain. I’m not the biggest fan of the plastic-y feel of an epoxy top coat. If I mix epoxy with a splash of acetone do you think that would work to thin it out so it absorbs more, and just keep laying on coats until it stops soaking in as much?
Great video. I'm just getting into wood working, resin, etc. Is stabilizing a shortcut to letting wood dry for years? I've seen some videos where people say you need to let your wood dry for literally years. Or does stabilizing serve a different purpose?
Russ Tanner on regular hardwoods and wood you will use to make something.. it can be air dried for years or kiln dried to under 10 percent moisture.. otherwise the project you make may not work with the contraction and expansion of wood. Stabilizing is more to make the wood not move with expansion and contraction and in this case we want the Burl to be strong enough to work with... I start out with wood that is around 9 or 10 percent and then dry it to 0 percent.
@@JakeThompson thanks 👍
Great information, thank you!!!
Very welcome Craig 👍
Interesting
Allen Oxendine Thanks for watching Allen.. 👍👍
Thanks for this video iv just subscribed to you from England. My husband uses a lathe but used wood that almost exploded when turning the other day, he is a fairly new turner and is just learning about wood moister fully dry. I now believe we should have gone down this road. Do you have to put the wood in a pot to use stabilising resin? More video’s of yours to watch
Thank you for the sub.. without using a vacuum chamber the stabilizing resin will only soak in so far.. I’ve only ever done it the complete way..
Great info! 👍🏻 Thanks! Also Go Pack Go! But ya gotta lose the 49ers flag! (and OBTW - I have to tell my wife this all the time - ya can’t get (I think) tin foil anymore! It’s called aluminum foil now!! (just kidding!) 🤪🤪🤪)
Lol.. Go Pack Go
Very informative!! Thank you. 😁👊
Very Welcome!👍👍
The link to the vacuum chamber is inaccurate - that lid is not intended for stabilizing and will crack after 3-4 uses. Look for one made of tempered glass.
Agreed... I think they stopped selling the one I have .. I will get a similar one linked up.. thank you . 👍👍
Make a video about how to dye a variety and stabilize the wood again
Nam Bùi It will happen. It’s in the works. 👍👍
@@JakeThompson I look forward to seeing your next video
Hey Brother thanks for your videos they great. ? Do you need to stabilize something like oak from a box store or just wood was cut and dried? Hope you can help no one is clear about that. Keep up the good work Brother!!!
Hey Noel.. Stabilizing hardwoods doesn’t do much in my opinion.. the wood that needs stabilized is the kind of wood I used in this video. Mostly burls or punky wood that will break apart easily..
Hi Jake,
The link to the Amazon vacuum chamber shows the valves on top, while your UA-cam show the valves on the side. The 5-gallon prices are significantly different ($292 vs $165). Please advise.
Great videos!
MikeB
The vacuum chamber needs to have a glass lid to last with cactus juice.. if it’s a plastic lid.. it will crack and leak.
You need to put a trap between your vacuum pump and your chamber to catch anything that comes off. Ideally, you should cool the trap. This will prolong the life your pump
That’s an awesome tutorial! I have just started stabilizing wood for epoxy projects. I have seen some ppl put the pressure in the vessel and isolate it and turn off the pump. I tried it and it worked, but idk if it worked as good as leaving the pump running. Have you done a comparison in the two methods? This was a great video!
Thank you Heath.. I haven’t tried a comparison between pump off and pump on.. with the new formula, the bubbles are gone in an hour or so anyway.. the directions say to leave the pump on, so I do… The old formula took forever but now it’s better 👍
Why not just buy thicker wood
If the wood isn’t stable, or it’s brittle.. It doesn’t matter how thick it is..
Nice explanation but, the video shows what we are not supposed to do but no reason why and what it does. My only suggestion I would add is to provide extra dialog explaining the the reasons why certain these things (steps) do and do not help, or more detail on the reasons why and what each process does. Thank you for everything you do provide.
👍👍
Jake, you say you leave to pump running the whole time, but I tried shutting it and I still get bubbles, sometimes I turn it back on if I lose any vacuum. Do you find you need to add oil to the pump? I get some misting and find I have to add oil occasionally. Great info, thx for the videos. Tony
I change the oil after every long use.. I leave it on the entire time.. until bubbles are barely coming out.. the instructions for cactus juice specifically say to leave it on the entire time.. Thanks for watching.. I appreciate it.
Fantastic video. I learned a lot. I’m wondering if pressurizing it after vacuum and oven would help drive that resin deeper.
Would this work for a redwood deck? Need larger equipment for sure, but you probably wouldn’t need to ever refinish it.
I always worried about the wood warping in the vacuum. Any thoughts on this?
Plane and tongue and groove the wood planks. Then place in vacuum with Cactus Juice. Then pressurize and heat. Would the boards be straight?
The drying before the vacuum chamber warps the wood.. also this works very well on punky wood.. the harder the wood, the less it accepts the cactus juice. Thank you for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
Can ebony woods be stabilized?..🙏
Lasaraung Bakri Stabilizing Hardwoods’s doesn’t make as much of a difference as stabilizing burls.. but you can do it.
Nothing wrong with getting a more expensive pump, take care of it, and it should last probably forever for what you use
I still have mine
Hi . I want to give me information on wood stabilization. I am from Greece and can only find olive wood. Can I stabilize olive wood? I do tests and I don't get good results. The resin together with the color does not get in. I use small pieces. I use a refrigerator motor for a vacuum pump. this stops - 0.9 bar. I believe it's enough for stabilization. the woods are below 10% humidity and I let them soak for 24 hours. Then I put them in the cactus juice in vacuum for 4 hours. When he was finished I cut them in the middle to see and he didn't get in. What am I doing wrong please help me.
In my understanding, Olive wood is not fitted to stabilize, because of olive oil itself. it would be better to select the other dried wood. and then try this again.
Hi could you clear for me, you keep saying Vacuum but I believe you are using pressure pot????? so are using to pressurise the pot or you are using Vacuum pump?? Regards from OZ jack Marashlian
Jack Marashlian This pot is a vacuum chamber not a pressure pot.
One of the great things about UA-cam is you find things you may have no interest in or have ever thought of but this was fascinating maybe one day. Thanks
Awesome!! 👍👍
I am making knife scales is it always best to stabilise the wood? :)
If you are using super hard wood.. stabilizing won’t do very much.. but if you are using burls or less dense wood.. stabilizing is needed
@@JakeThompson I’m starting of with just making small resin cubes at the moment until I get a handle on that... then going to start mixing resin and burls :)
I'm interested in making knifes using unusual materials. Would this method with a hardwood make the wood hard enough for a knife blade?
william kendall This process really doesn’t do much for hardwood.. it makes a difference.. but not as much as it does to punky wood.