How to Stabilize Wood and Why Should You do it?

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  • @JakeThompson
    @JakeThompson  8 місяців тому

    Frequently asked questions about wood stabilizing ua-cam.com/video/M3BJyyf0BMY/v-deo.html

  • @gordonchapman222
    @gordonchapman222 5 років тому +10

    I've watched a good few videos where they've 'stabilised' the wood before turning and until now I have never completely understood why. Thanks for taking the time to explain in a no nonsense way the why and the how. I love your work man 5⭐'s

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Gordon Chapman Thank you very much Gordon. Glad you got something out of it., this is a pretty fun process.. jump right in.. 👍👍👊

    • @gordonchapman222
      @gordonchapman222 5 років тому

      👊

  • @kraigpost8960
    @kraigpost8960 5 років тому +23

    just for some information water will boil in in good vacuum at around 80 deg. f. so i guess you could use your vacuum pot to draw off moisture without adding heat to your shop and maybe cheaper as well, especially when its 90 or 95 deg.in your shop.

  • @MarklTucson
    @MarklTucson 2 роки тому +2

    This was very helpful. A quick overview and walkthrough of the process. I got my chamber this week and used this video to check my steps. Showing when to stop the vacuum was most helpful.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому +2

      Awesome.. I’m glad I could help you out.. 👍👍

  • @WLS_Churchill
    @WLS_Churchill 5 років тому +3

    Future knifemaker here, this video helped me so much setting up everything ! Thank you, i have a lot of scale to mess with now !

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Spc Madoule Super cool, glad I could help!!

  • @allthegearnoidea6752
    @allthegearnoidea6752 3 роки тому +1

    One of the great things about UA-cam is you find things you may have no interest in or have ever thought of but this was fascinating maybe one day. Thanks

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to meet you. I ordered my equipment, use, vacuum chamber Cactus Juice., and Vacuum generator. I am learning the stabilizing first then the Resin. Thank you for sharing your knowledge sp freely

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      Absolutely.. my pleasure!! 👍👍

  • @DazedPhasesofLazerbeams
    @DazedPhasesofLazerbeams 2 роки тому +4

    Ive watched this ten times now. Thanks for being so detailed with your explanations. Very helpful.

  • @JakeThompson
    @JakeThompson  5 років тому +10

    Hello everyone!! Thanks for stopping by for the video!! I have found this to be a pretty rewarding and satisfying process.. I hope you got something out of this, and I will see y’all next time!! Check out some of the things I make with Stabilized wood. www.northsidecustomcrafts.com/new-products

    • @chrismclemore
      @chrismclemore 5 років тому +1

      I've been doing a ton of research about this and keep coming across the topic of pump failure from the vapor of the stabilizer getting into the internal plastic parts of the pump. You have talked to educated people who have experience with this, what have they said and what is your personal experience? ? I'm about to buy the same chamber but probably going with the cheaper pump. Thanks. Great video.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      Chris Mclemore Fishing Absolutely right Chris. I was told to change the pump oil after every cycle. I can see why too.. You can watch the oil get pretty nasty through the sight glass. The pump oil is cheap. I have changed to every time with no problems yet. If and when the pump I have fails, I will be getting the cheaper one. Thanks for watching Chris!👍

    • @chrismclemore
      @chrismclemore 5 років тому +1

      @@JakeThompson what oil are you using?? Just wondering Since you change it so often.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      Chris Mclemore Fishing Its Robinair high vacuum pump oil.. here’s a link www.amazon.com/Robinair-13203-Premium-High-Vacuum/dp/B000X1E59S I have it listed in my amazon store. The pumps don’t hold very much, I bought a gallon, it should last a long time!!

    • @chrismclemore
      @chrismclemore 5 років тому +1

      @@JakeThompson okie doke. Thanks. Keep em coming.

  • @vangcruz4442
    @vangcruz4442 Рік тому +1

    One of the most right up to being an exciting serious video I have ever watch. I was amazed, I watch the whole video. It was really hard to tell which intented direction it was head.....very well executed.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  Рік тому

      Thank you very much.. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 👍👍

  • @brendaculver6540
    @brendaculver6540 3 роки тому +1

    My husband and I are getting into woodwork and this was a fabulous instruction video thank you very much and yes I’ll probably be buying stuff from you thank you

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for watching Brenda.. and welcome aboard.. I put out information like this all the time.. plenty more to come.

  • @bobwilson7425
    @bobwilson7425 4 роки тому +1

    Hey jake Bob Wilson here. Wish I could send you a photo because after watching this video I purchased the exact items you have in your demonstration here for the set up needed to have everything you need to stabilize sweet sweet punky funky wood. Chamber
    , pump, resin,thermometers(2) and so on. I love your personality and your videos. Love how you are always ready for the ridiculous comments you guys get right after you post a new video. So any out there just can’t wait to tell you what you did wrong and point out anything that you do different then they do. I’m getting ready to start posting my videos very soon and that’s what I see will be the most challenging and that it to tune them out without feeling the need to respond. Any tip you can shoot my way would be much appreciated. Keep turning and burning!!!!!!Peace!!!!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому +1

      Bob Wilson First things first.. I think I’m your first subscriber.. I’m super happy you like my videos.. I guess my best advise is to pay attention to the good comments... not the bad ones.. human nature makes us put more weight on 1 bad comment when there are 100 good comments... as long as people aren’t just out of line.. let it go.. if they are out of line, delete the comment and block them. Easy peasy.. 👍👍👊

    • @bobwilson7425
      @bobwilson7425 4 роки тому

      Thanks for being my first subscriber Jake. It’s gonna be a few months before I go live I’m working with a creative design company which are currently working on my website atC account and all my social media‘s to have them have as much of the same look and feel to each other as possible that same company will be providing all the editing for my videos. I love that you throw out other peoples names that you get good information from and I subscribe to all the people that you mention like Casey and Zach. About the negative comments, you can just hear it in the tone of your voice that when you say something which you know or realize right afterwards that somebody is going to be all over that picking it apart you make some kind of comment or statement about how it’s done this way by a lot of other REALLY SMART PEOPLE. LOL I love that comment. And other times you just make a comment that basically lets them know ahead of time it’s not even worth it making negative comments or trying to contradict what your saying. You don’t know how much I appreciate The response and the advice you have given me. Thanks again. I just want to make some really cool stuff on my lathe and incorporate resins into it as much as possible and do it the most effective and efficient ways possible. You provide a lot of that for your subscribers. Thanks bob

  • @gardeningdianne
    @gardeningdianne 5 років тому +2

    A great explanation of why some woods need to be stabilised. Well done.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Dave Clarke Thank you Dave!! Appreciate it!! 👍

  • @jeffsherk7056
    @jeffsherk7056 4 роки тому +4

    Great video. So helpful, especially since I prefer to use wood for my knife handles. Stabilizing the wood first will really add value to my work.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Awesome!! I’m glad I could help you out.. I appreciate you watching my videos. 😄👊👍

  • @jessicaford8399
    @jessicaford8399 5 років тому +6

    Thank you! I've been doing resin for a bit as jewelry and I have been looking to up my game. I'm good at it and have an abundance of nice wood and your videos are understandable and let me know the basics that I need for what I'd like to do. Taking this to the next level will be fun 😉

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Izzy Queenbee I’m glad you enjoyed the video and got something out of it.. I try to explain things the best I can. Do you have an Instagram or something showing your work??

  • @DavidsWoodturning
    @DavidsWoodturning 3 роки тому +4

    Hi, great video well detailed. Do you leave the vacuum pump ON for the full duration when sacking all the air out of the wood? Or just like the pressure pot once it gets to the desired level switch off and leave as it is?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching David. You have to leave on the pump the entire time you are pulling air out. It says that specifically in the cactus juice instructions. 👍

    • @DavidsWoodturning
      @DavidsWoodturning 3 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson Thanks Jake really appreciate your reply 😀

  • @protect.your.digits.creations
    @protect.your.digits.creations 5 років тому +4

    Jake you're on FIRE my friend, This video answered so many questions for me. Also, I have bookmarked your store on my computer for future purchased. Stay well my friend and thank you

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Protect your DIGITS Creations Awesome!!! I’m glad I can help out!!! And thank you for helping me out!!!👍👍👊👊

    • @protect.your.digits.creations
      @protect.your.digits.creations 5 років тому +1

      I will be using your Amazon store as much as possible my friend.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Protect your DIGITS Creations Thank you. Thank you!!!

  • @stevehogg
    @stevehogg 2 роки тому +1

    You should have 1 million subscribers by now. Great work and thanks for the videos.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Steve.. That would be cool 😎 Very welcome. 👍👍

  • @mullmiller
    @mullmiller 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the vid man. I been needing this exact video. Im not familiar with this kind of stuff but i am familiar with negative pressure, that valve with the air diffuser is whats called an air bleed. When that valve is closed and the pot is under vacuum (Negative pressure) you know your sucking air from the pot and not the room with the pump. When the other valve (inlet valve) is closed (the pump can be off but doesnt have to be yet), and the air bleed is opened, the pot (under vacuum) essentially sucks air back in from the room to come back up to atmosphere (14.7 psi, 1013 mbar, or 760 mmHg its all the same at sea level) thanks for video man i definitely want to start doin this. Thank you for the links and all the help.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Mull Miller Awesome!!! This is a fun process.. and the end result is pretty cool!!

    • @mullmiller
      @mullmiller 4 роки тому +1

      Hey man, also the link for the vacuum pot says that the chambers are not compatible with cactus juice? But i guess they are??

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому +1

      Mull Miller You are correct... the ones with a glass top will work.. plastic tops will crack.

  • @alanhill769
    @alanhill769 29 днів тому +1

    Hi Jake I make pens and I have looked at stabilised wood blanks. Some of them are really lovely to look at, but the cost is way out of my reach. I could not sell a pen and cover all the material costs. So I buy acrylic blanks and turn wood offcuts into pens. I only charge for materials and some expendables. Craft markets charge way too much. I did enjoy watching the whole process. Thank you.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  29 днів тому

      @@alanhill769 awesome.. Thanks 👍👍😁

  • @mrlover013070
    @mrlover013070 5 років тому +1

    Something new every day. I been learning with this channels a lot. Thanks

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Enrique Ramírez Thank you very much.. glad you enjoy!! 👍👍👊

  • @MustangWriter
    @MustangWriter 4 роки тому +2

    So many great tips from the video AND the comments. I never thought about stabilizing wood before. I recently acquired a nice piece of wood from a tree that was hit by lightening. Its light and dark and all shades of beautiful browns in between. I planned to make knife handle blanks from it, but now I can do them correctly. I'm new at this but I know what I like and I like hanging out here with you Jake and your subscribers. Liked and Subbed.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      MustangWriter Awesome!!! Welcome aboard.. there’s tons to be learned just in the comments.. I’m glad you enjoy... plenty more to come.. 👍👍

  • @GregsGarage
    @GregsGarage 2 роки тому +1

    Getting close to actually doing some stabilizing... Had to come back and sharpen up a bit! Great explanation like always.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому

      Thanks Greg.. I appreciate ya 👍👍

  • @canaanbailie569
    @canaanbailie569 2 роки тому +1

    I'm looking to start stabilizing my own wood for knife scales. Good, information in the video.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому

      Thank you.. glad I could help out. 👍👍

  • @wb_finewoodworking
    @wb_finewoodworking 5 років тому +3

    Great video Jake. I’m sure I’ll be looking at this again when I start turning wood that needs to be stabilized. Thanks.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      WB Fine Woodworking Very Welcome.. I’m glad you enjoyed it!!👍👍👊👊

  • @Lady_of_Ishpeming
    @Lady_of_Ishpeming 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing! I had no idea what stabilizing wood meant. This was a big help!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you.. I’m glad I could help out. 👍👍

  • @davidgould21
    @davidgould21 3 роки тому +1

    Jake - great information. The folks that make the chamber you are using in the video recommend never using it with cactus juice as they say it will damage the plastic parts in the vacuum pump. Have you heard that?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      Cactus juice is hard on things.. I got the vacuum chamber with the glass lid because the ones with plastic lids will crack and break. As far as the pump.. I change the oil after every use.. I’ve had mine for 2 years.

  • @stevederosa8937
    @stevederosa8937 3 роки тому +1

    Jake,
    Excellent video. Thanks for the reason for and explaining wood stabilizing.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      Very welcome Steve.. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

  • @DowneastThunderCreations
    @DowneastThunderCreations 5 років тому +2

    Great video, Jake! Something to think about before chucking up burl wood in the lathe. Thanks!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Downeast Thunder Creations Very Welcome!! Thank you for checking it out!👍👊

  • @ManCrafting
    @ManCrafting 5 років тому +3

    I'm conflicted. I've been wanting to do this for a while, and now with the addition of knife making, I'm seeing more reason to do it, but dang that is a lot of time and expense invested for something I may not use very often. I may just buy stabilized wood for my projects. It's not that any of this seems hard, it just seems time consuming and if I'm not doing a lot the resin is going to go bad before I use it.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      ManCraftingTM Yeah I hear ya on the time it takes.. I like it because I can do all of the time consuming processes, besides cooking, while I’m at work.. I’m turning mallets today with the wood I stabilized, I can’t wait to see how they turn out.. Thanks for watching Chad!! 👍👍

    • @ManCrafting
      @ManCrafting 5 років тому

      Jake Thompson don’t get me wrong. I want to do it. It’s just a big investment when I can get stabilized blanks for a marginal price difference. Now, if I’m turning it makes more sense. I’ll probably end up doing it. 🤷🏻‍♂️. Because.

    • @bryanst.martin7134
      @bryanst.martin7134 4 роки тому

      @@ManCrafting You can use smaller containers. Such as tupperware bowls that are a much closer fit to your product and add 25 to 30% more than needed to cover your blanks. You can still use the residual, but it is far less than what was shown here. He didn't mention the air powered vacuum pump. Cheap venturi "pumps" powered by compressed air. They don't draw as deeply as the mechanicals, but in this case they should do quite well. But set a smaller container into your vacuum chamber and use far less resin. I hate waste!!! I try to keep to 5% or less.

  • @ExcaliburRings
    @ExcaliburRings 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for making this video! I will definitely use this video as a reference for a future project.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome.. glad I could help out.

  • @wrongfullyaccused7139
    @wrongfullyaccused7139 3 роки тому +1

    Outstanding video, well narrated. Question; Have you ever tried using just the vacuum pump to remove moisture from your project piece? A/C mechanics use a vacuum pump to remove all moisture from A/C line prior to filing with freon. The moisture literally boils off. The beauty of it is that once you achieve the proper level of vacuum, you don't have to have the pump running continuously. As long as the system is under vacuum, any water boils off. What do you think? Keep up the great work and stay safe.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. I have heard of using the vacuum chamber to remove moisture… just haven’t tried it.. I suppose it would be worth a try.

    • @wrongfullyaccused7139
      @wrongfullyaccused7139 3 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson ;I have a cam pump and I did build a chamber. Unfortunately, After hurricane Michael destroyed my shop, I have had other matters to take care of.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      @@wrongfullyaccused7139 👀👀

  • @forloveofthegrain
    @forloveofthegrain 4 роки тому +1

    Subscribed. just bought the same 5 gallon chamber and a 5 gallon pressure pot so I can start doing hybrid hollow forms.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Richard Ollis Thank you for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it. I can’t wait to see what you do!

    • @deanyonkovich66
      @deanyonkovich66 4 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson I am curious if you create the hollow form first prior to stabilizing.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Dean Yonkovich you can do that if the burl is strong enough to stay together on the lathe.

  • @jeffcheatham1744
    @jeffcheatham1744 3 роки тому +1

    Very good information Jake, Thanks for all of the videos angles

  • @heathobarr4785
    @heathobarr4785 Рік тому +1

    That’s an awesome tutorial! I have just started stabilizing wood for epoxy projects. I have seen some ppl put the pressure in the vessel and isolate it and turn off the pump. I tried it and it worked, but idk if it worked as good as leaving the pump running. Have you done a comparison in the two methods? This was a great video!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  Рік тому

      Thank you Heath.. I haven’t tried a comparison between pump off and pump on.. with the new formula, the bubbles are gone in an hour or so anyway.. the directions say to leave the pump on, so I do… The old formula took forever but now it’s better 👍

  • @shaunfelton2046
    @shaunfelton2046 5 років тому +2

    Representing Melbourne Storm and Australia! Great video, it was pretty cool to see just how much the burl soaked up the cactus juice!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Shaun Felton Thank you very much!! Yeah.. that wood soaks it up like crazy!!

  • @BenHayat
    @BenHayat 4 роки тому +2

    Man, what a fantastic and informative video. I learned s much.
    Thank you.
    Subscribed!!!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Ben Hayat Awesome.. I’m glad you enjoyed it.. welcome to the channel. 👍👍👊

  • @VicKennardAK
    @VicKennardAK 5 років тому +3

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank You...
    I have wondered about this for a very long time..
    Thank you for posting this video...

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      VMK The Forest Hermit Very welcome.. it’s pretty easy when you have the steps down.. 👍👍👍👊

  • @keithhill8735
    @keithhill8735 3 роки тому +1

    The toaster oven I got I set it on 200° and when my temperature gauge stopped climbing it was almost at 270°. I had to set it around 115-125 and it holds the temp around 200-205°

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      I said in the video that the toaster ovens are not accurate.. the thermometers are what you should go by.

  • @mrdr9534
    @mrdr9534 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for a very honest and interesting video.
    Though I must admit I was very curious as to how "homogeneous" the process had been through the thickness of the wood, and was hoping that You might split it to take a look.But it was very informative non the less, so many thanks for taking the effort of making this video and sharing Your knowledge.
    Best regards

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      M Rdr Thank you and I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. I’ve done pretty thick pieces and I can say when I’m turning them on the lathe it’s pretty distinctive between stabilized wood and non stabilized wood.. I’ve never seen a piece act differently the more I turn it.. if that makes sense.

  • @Toonpish
    @Toonpish 3 роки тому +2

    I know this video has been out for a while but thank you so much for making it. I have a couple of questions though. You leave the vacuum chamber and pump on over night. could you turn off the pump and the vacuum will still work? is it dangerous leaving the pump on? what I mean is would the pump burn out or the vacuum chamber go over its recommended pressure? I want to start stabilising some wood and have the equipment but the lack of knowledge. thanks in advance Jake. I hope you can help me. Wendy

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      Thanks Wendy, since this video, the longest I’ve had to leave the pump on is for about 5 hours.. I don’t think it’s dangerous leaving it on and it can’t over vacuum. It’s only going to go as high as the atmosphere will let it go. The cactus juice clearly states to leave the pump on during this process. The only safety concern is to make sure the vacuum chamber you use for this has a glass lid and not a plastic lid.. The plastic lids being under vacuum for this long and with the cactus juice in it.. they will crack, leak, and break. I hope this helps you out
      Jake

    • @Toonpish
      @Toonpish 3 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson Thank you so much Jake. This has helped a great deal. I do have a glass lid vacuum chamber and a great pump so I now need to buy a mini oven lol Thanks again Wendy

  • @deborahduthie4519
    @deborahduthie4519 4 роки тому +1

    Surprising results. Excellent. Thank-you.

  • @BearCreekWoodworking
    @BearCreekWoodworking 5 років тому +1

    This is a very detail, simple, and informative video Jake! Just the way I like it! Who knows maybe someday I will try this now too.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      Bear Creek Woodworking Simple is how I like it!! 😄😄

  • @ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING
    @ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING 5 років тому +1

    Awesome that you made this video! Great work Jake!!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      ROCK N WOODWORKS Thanks Brother!! It’s pretty fun to do!

  • @murphyja80
    @murphyja80 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Very easy to follow and understand. If the wood is to be used for knife scales, is it best to cut down to size before stabilizing. Wasn't sure if the resin would dull a blade quicker.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому

      Thank you Jason.. I’m not sure if will it dull the saw blades quicker or not. But I’m sure when you dry the wood before the vacuum chamber is used.. there will be some warping, so I would cut them to size after drying at least.. I like stabilizing big pieces and then cutting what I want out of them.. I love using the scrap pieces 👍👍

  • @markpinther9296
    @markpinther9296 5 років тому +1

    Cool that you can re-use that leftover stabilizer. Great video.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Mark Pinther Thanks a lot Mark!! Glad you enjoyed it!!

  • @Citizen_0_5
    @Citizen_0_5 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video man. My buddy has been trying to talk me into this and this is the first time I've really seen it. Looks amazing!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Chasin' Aces Thank you!! It’s pretty easy once you know how and the results are pretty cool! 👍👍

  • @Knight3rrant
    @Knight3rrant 2 роки тому +1

    Possible video content idea: What are good sources for wood burl pieces? Especially focus on covering the full array starting with sources for those starting out, up through the mid- and then finally up to the high end sources. Many thanks!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому

      I have 1 source right now.. Worldwide burl on Instagram

    • @Knight3rrant
      @Knight3rrant 2 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson Thank you, good sir.

  • @monopinion8799
    @monopinion8799 4 роки тому +1

    Jake, you have opened up a brand new window for me. I really enjoyed your video/presentation. It was clear and organized. Good shots and microphone with the video. I do have a question for you or anybody else you may recommend to to answer. I came across ( very lucky) of 3 slabs of 5in thick x 28 in wide x 36-40inches of side cut of spalded maple from a city cut tree. The tree was approximately 80 years old. Two of the slaves have on the tall ends about 5 to 6 “ of punky wood, not falling apart, still holding but could break off if attempting to sand vigorously. Is there a possibility to stabilize that punky side in the present size ? I’d hate to cut,it it’s so beautiful. Can you help me with your wisdom?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      I’m not sure what to do on huge pieces.. I know there are wood stabilizers or some kind resins that will soak in... you might want to search on here a bit more for something like that.. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. it is a pretty fun process. 👍👊

  • @martineastburn3679
    @martineastburn3679 5 років тому +3

    This was used extensively for M1 and other rifles for WWII as the wood could not wait to be used. They used 55 gallon drums and processed many many rifle stocks at a time. I started looking into this in the 70's. What a cool process.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Martin Eastburn That’s pretty interesting!! I had no idea!

  • @scottsisco8833
    @scottsisco8833 5 років тому +1

    Excellent video, I will be stabilizing all my stuff from now on. Thanks man

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Scott Sisco Awesome, glad I could help ya out!

  • @rugerguy8190
    @rugerguy8190 3 роки тому +2

    I really like your videos. I'm just starting out. I have a question about the top to your vacuum chamber. I need a new top to mine the first time I used it the top cracked. Do you know where I could get a new one? Thanks

  • @raydillon4405
    @raydillon4405 5 років тому +3

    Thank you Jake for a great video, lots of very good information. That sure looks like a Melbourne Storm flag on your wall? It's a shame the STORM aren't the same since Billy Slater left the team.

  • @GiseleGrenier
    @GiseleGrenier 5 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for making understandable videos! Now, I bought my Cactus Juice from William Woodright in Ontario, it didn't come with any instructions and the instructions for my vacuum pump say not to run it for an extended period of time. In saying that, I would assume that running this process every couple of hours as Ryan Kirk mentioned would be ok?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Gisele Grenier The directions say to run the pump for the entire process.. I’ve done several running the pump nonstop. I just change the pump oil after every use. I’m kind of curious if there is a difference. Maybe someone can test it both ways. I’m glad I could help ya out! 👍👍

  • @basilkearsley2657
    @basilkearsley2657 4 роки тому +6

    You need to put a trap between your vacuum pump and your chamber to catch anything that comes off. Ideally, you should cool the trap. This will prolong the life your pump

  • @randywl8925
    @randywl8925 2 роки тому +1

    Not my hobby but wow, great info. I just scored a10 gallon HVLP pressure tank today for free. It's pressure gauge goes up to 12 bars..... 185ish lbs.
    I'm looking for ways to use it.
    Great info and demonstration of the process. 👍

  • @alschulze-woodworx7258
    @alschulze-woodworx7258 5 років тому +1

    Very good tutorial.......doesn’t seem near as scary now 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Al Schulze - WoodworX Awww Al!! Thanks Brother!! 👍👍👍😄

  • @PorscheV8
    @PorscheV8 7 місяців тому +1

    Good video...now I can stabilize the spalted wood for my knife handles

  • @rgcrowman3188
    @rgcrowman3188 24 дні тому +1

    Great video and I have a couple of questions ! if your doing "knife Scales" or " 1911 grips" something that doesn't take any abuse like you mallet handles, why do people say it's better if you stabilize your knife scale or 1911 grip over using just plain wood that you seal with mineral oil, boiled lensed, checkering oil etc ? How do you gat a nice stain on the wood or control the color of stain if your stabilize it ?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  24 дні тому

      It’s mostly to eliminate wood movement in that case, not for abuse. I’m glad you enjoyed the video

  • @ronmiller682
    @ronmiller682 4 роки тому +1

    Wow I learned quite a bit. Thank you for sharing with us.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Ron Miller Very welcome!! Glad you liked it!

  • @waynee.2856
    @waynee.2856 3 роки тому +1

    Very good video. Lots of good info. I’ve never tried this. How do you know when it’s done in the oven? If you mentioned it, I must have missed it. I know you said it was in for four hours, but I didn’t hear how you knew it was done. Thanks for sharing.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching.. the wood will look dry when it’s done.. just know that you can’t overcook it.. so if you are unsure, just go a bit longer

  • @SFSoulCrooner
    @SFSoulCrooner 5 років тому +1

    Spectacular video Jake ! Thank you so much for demystifying so much! Just getting started in SF 👌😁👍

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      SFSoulCrooner 👍👍 Awesome!! Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @RyanKirk99
    @RyanKirk99 5 років тому +3

    I did not know it was ok to run the vacuum pump for hours on end. I usually pull a vacuum, close the valves, and turn the pump off and let it soak under vacuum. Repeat every couple of hours.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      Ryan Kirk the instructions on the cactus juice say to leave the pump on. I just make sure to change the vacuum pump oil after every use.

  • @paulmanhart4481
    @paulmanhart4481 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video. I learned a lot. I’m wondering if pressurizing it after vacuum and oven would help drive that resin deeper.
    Would this work for a redwood deck? Need larger equipment for sure, but you probably wouldn’t need to ever refinish it.
    I always worried about the wood warping in the vacuum. Any thoughts on this?
    Plane and tongue and groove the wood planks. Then place in vacuum with Cactus Juice. Then pressurize and heat. Would the boards be straight?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому

      The drying before the vacuum chamber warps the wood.. also this works very well on punky wood.. the harder the wood, the less it accepts the cactus juice. Thank you for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @mamajspens7433
    @mamajspens7433 4 роки тому +1

    Great Video! Thanks for taking us step by step!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Any time! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @mikeb4555
    @mikeb4555 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Jake,
    The link to the Amazon vacuum chamber shows the valves on top, while your UA-cam show the valves on the side. The 5-gallon prices are significantly different ($292 vs $165). Please advise.
    Great videos!
    MikeB

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      The vacuum chamber needs to have a glass lid to last with cactus juice.. if it’s a plastic lid.. it will crack and leak.

  • @originblades11
    @originblades11 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing! Cant wait to stabilize mine too

  • @alisonjordan1152
    @alisonjordan1152 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video iv just subscribed to you from England. My husband uses a lathe but used wood that almost exploded when turning the other day, he is a fairly new turner and is just learning about wood moister fully dry. I now believe we should have gone down this road. Do you have to put the wood in a pot to use stabilising resin? More video’s of yours to watch

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому

      Thank you for the sub.. without using a vacuum chamber the stabilizing resin will only soak in so far.. I’ve only ever done it the complete way..

  • @waynepowers9674
    @waynepowers9674 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. Hello Jake I am one of your newer subscribers. I am working on setting up a system. I am using your links for the tank and vacuum tank. I am interested in the 5 gal container you show in your video which fit nicely in the chamber. I would like to know where you get them from.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      I purchased the white bucket at Lowe’s.. you can get then at any hardware store. I’m glad you enjoy the videos, welcome to the club and I have plenty more to come!! 👍👍👊

  • @rsstnnr76
    @rsstnnr76 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. I'm just getting into wood working, resin, etc. Is stabilizing a shortcut to letting wood dry for years? I've seen some videos where people say you need to let your wood dry for literally years. Or does stabilizing serve a different purpose?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому +2

      Russ Tanner on regular hardwoods and wood you will use to make something.. it can be air dried for years or kiln dried to under 10 percent moisture.. otherwise the project you make may not work with the contraction and expansion of wood. Stabilizing is more to make the wood not move with expansion and contraction and in this case we want the Burl to be strong enough to work with... I start out with wood that is around 9 or 10 percent and then dry it to 0 percent.

    • @rsstnnr76
      @rsstnnr76 4 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson thanks 👍

  • @mrdooza9935
    @mrdooza9935 5 років тому +1

    Love your videos I've just found your channel I have Doug to thank (Pohl Barn). I'm a UK viewer and a fellow Tottenham supporter. Come on you Spurs!!!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Mr Dooza My buddy Jamie Page sent me the flag.. we visited the stadium when I was there!! Thank you Doug!! Thanks for coming over and I’m glad you enjoy the videos!! 👍👍

  • @marvinpaulson8198
    @marvinpaulson8198 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing. I need to do that to some copilot.

  • @mokatwenty
    @mokatwenty 4 роки тому +2

    Melbourne Storm Flag!?!?
    Didn't expect to see one of them in the background lol
    Great vid!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому +1

      Moka Twenty Thank you.. my buddy Dirk from Sumo’s projects sent it to me!! 👍👍

  • @clydebutler6487
    @clydebutler6487 3 роки тому +1

    Good video and you included info that was missing in other videos that I've seen. I've never done this process but I'm interested in it, though I do have a question for you or other viewers with more experience. Since your piece of maple is now more resin than wood, what kind of glue would be used to glue it to another piece of stabilized wood and/or a piece of un-stabilized wood? Thanks.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      I’m not exactly sure but I think any wood glue would still stick.. or an epoxy used as glue will for sure work !!

  • @dr.lexwinter8604
    @dr.lexwinter8604 4 роки тому +5

    But remember - as you remove the wood and harden it the resin will shrink leaving voids and spaces around the outside and suck in more oxygen. A better way to do it is to make a waterproof container the exact size of your material with a mm or two clearance, add resin to it routinely and let the wood soak until the void / clearance stays filled and the wood takes no more, then let it harden (and add more as it does) then remove the few mm's of resin surrounding your wood. That way there's no voids.

  • @telstraoranamall7680
    @telstraoranamall7680 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for your info all taken in I'm in Australia

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Telstra Orana Mall Thanks Mate! Glad I could help out!!

  • @cherylconoly3071
    @cherylconoly3071 4 роки тому +1

    Super information. Where did you get the 5 gallon bucket with measurements on it?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Cheryl Conoly Thank you.. I think I bought the bucket at Lowe’s. 👍👍

  • @vokinn72
    @vokinn72 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Jake thanks for the video mate. Quick question. You mentioned that your pump was overpowered. Im looking at a unit that has a 3cfm pump with it. Is that strong enough? What one did you use and which one did you mean when you said you should have got the cheaper one? Thanks for your time mate appreciate it :)

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому +1

      Hello, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I put links in the description to the pump I used and a cheaper pump that will also work.. all of the pumps will work.. the more powerful pumps will get up to full vacuum faster is all. 👍👍

    • @vokinn72
      @vokinn72 3 роки тому

      @@JakeThompson awesome thanks for replying! And ... maybe replace that Melbourne Storm flag with a Parramatta Eels flag ;)

  • @JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures
    @JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures 5 років тому +1

    Great video, thanks for sharing. I do have a question, I am a new knife maker, and I have bought a few wood scales off the internet for the handles of my knives. Right now I am making a knife for my brother in law who moved from WV to the state of Washington. I decided I wanted to make this knife a special one, so I have a old downed and cut up black walnut tree, been down for 7 years now. I took one of the small logs and cut everything away to get to the heart wood. I have cleaned it up, split it in half with my band saw and sanded all nice and smooth. Really it is ready to attach to the knife. Would hard woods, I know you mentioned the light feeling wood needs stabilized, have to be stabilized??? Thanks again for sharing. Juddie - J & J TOA

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      J & J True Outdoor Adventures Sounds like a cool knife! I think with hardwoods, it won’t add much weight but it will make it more stable, if you are worried about wood movement, stabilization should take care of it, but other than that I see no reason to stabilize small pieces if not worried about expanding and contracting.. hope this helps. 👍👍👍

    • @JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures
      @JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures 5 років тому +1

      Jake Thompson thanks for replying. I will look more into stabilizing and see if I can do it.

  • @LarryDMitchell
    @LarryDMitchell 3 роки тому +1

    Good precise video. I've been thinking of stabilizing some pen blanks and small burl pieces for pendants for my granddaughters. I just wonder what the return on investment is comparing what all you spent on equipment, Cactus Juice AND time with the cost of just buying a pre-stablized burl? I'm guessing if this is a good portion of your income and you do a lot of stabilizing for projects you're selling it might be cost effective. For a hobbyist like me it might not make sense. You video answered all my questions about the process.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      Awesome!! I’m glad I could help you out.. You are probably right.. it might be more cost effective to buy stabilized wood if you only need it every now and then.

  • @bryanst.martin7134
    @bryanst.martin7134 Рік тому +1

    I like that there is so little waste with the Cactus Juice. Guess I'll have to try it out!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  Рік тому

      Awesome Bryan.. Thank you for watching 👍

  • @prv1967a
    @prv1967a 4 роки тому +1

    Another great informative video for Us newbs.... do you have a video of that piece that you have worked

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Peter V I’m glad you enjoy the videos.. here’s what I did with the piece I stabilized! ua-cam.com/video/QCQnWCowSWM/v-deo.html

  • @clifforddurrance8234
    @clifforddurrance8234 4 роки тому +1

    I make canes for a hobby, most cane handles are like soft woods. What kind of wood that isn't recommended to harden? If any. Could you do a video on prices for all the equipment you need to harden the wood? Thanks I enjoyed all your videos. Cliff from Social Circle, Ga.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Clifford Durrance All of the equipment for stabilizing are in the description. The links to buy these items are there for you to see the prices or buy if you want.. I’m glad you enjoy my videos.

  • @HeathKnuckles_Tasty_Timber
    @HeathKnuckles_Tasty_Timber 5 років тому +33

    Excellent info brother! You’re hooked! 😁 Thanks for the mention man! 👊

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +4

      Heath Knuckles Yeah, I’m definitely Hooked Brother!! This stuff is pretty fun to do!!👍👊

    • @Captaraknospider
      @Captaraknospider 2 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson I got some yellow cedar burrl it's got small spots that isn't solid wood. Small like a lead in a pencil ✏
      Question will stabilization fill them inside?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  2 роки тому +1

      @@Captaraknospider I did a burl and just kept coating it until it stopped soaking it in..

  • @danielvrana9444
    @danielvrana9444 3 роки тому +1

    Man that was great!! Learned a lot!!
    Thank you
    Dan

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching Dan

    • @danielvrana9444
      @danielvrana9444 3 роки тому

      I’m just getting to it but you really helped me in my decisions!

  • @ardcguru8764
    @ardcguru8764 5 років тому +4

    Do you turn the vacuum pump off and close the valve when you reach maximum vacuum or do you keep the pump running for the full 24 hours?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      ARDC Guru I keep the pump running the entire time.. about 12 hours is the most I have ran it after this video.. The instructions state to keep the pump running.

    • @ardcguru8764
      @ardcguru8764 5 років тому

      Jake Thompson thank you

  • @jessehorn6305
    @jessehorn6305 4 роки тому +1

    Jake. great video and very informative. I have two questions. 1) What is the diameter of the 5 gallon vacuum chamber? 2) I have a bowl that is 11" in diameter, will it fit in the 5 gal chamber. Do you have another heat source for wood to large for the toaster oven?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому +1

      Jesse Horn I believe a 11 inch bowl will fit in it. I will use my full size home oven to dry larger pieces of wood..

    • @jessehorn6305
      @jessehorn6305 4 роки тому

      @@JakeThompson Thank you

    • @jessehorn6305
      @jessehorn6305 4 роки тому +1

      @@JakeThompson Where did you purchase the plastic bucket to fit the chamber? I have a 5 gallon chamber like yours.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      Jesse Horn I believe I got the bucket from Lowe’s

  • @truenorthny
    @truenorthny 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Some vacuum chambers have the valve on the side, and some on top. Is there any advantage to one over the other?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      True North The one that has the valve on the top will give you more capacity.. but when you are using cactus juice.. you need one with a glass top.. it will say not compatible with cactus juice.. but if you get the plastic top it will crack and leak with cactus juice.

  • @cazzag8254
    @cazzag8254 3 місяці тому +1

    So was it 4hrs total time to bake the treated wood or did you have to do it longer?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 місяці тому +1

      Depending on the thickness of the wood.. just set a timer for 5 hours on everything now… it’s ok to go longer but it’s not good to go not long enough. 👍

  • @vanceford4915
    @vanceford4915 3 роки тому +1

    Just trying to learn here. Is it really safe to leave a toaster oven on like this for 24 hours. Thanks for the great videos and the teaching.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      There are better ovens to use like gravity ovens but they are very expensive.. drying wood at 200f isn’t hott enough to catch the wood on fire.. but I do watch it when I’m cooking it on the last step when the wood is full of cactus juice.. Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed it.

  • @noelmorales1371
    @noelmorales1371 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Brother thanks for your videos they great. ? Do you need to stabilize something like oak from a box store or just wood was cut and dried? Hope you can help no one is clear about that. Keep up the good work Brother!!!

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому +1

      Hey Noel.. Stabilizing hardwoods doesn’t do much in my opinion.. the wood that needs stabilized is the kind of wood I used in this video. Mostly burls or punky wood that will break apart easily..

  • @notwhereyouthink
    @notwhereyouthink 4 роки тому +1

    great tutorial jake well done.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  4 роки тому

      EML Media Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @tonytorra3674
    @tonytorra3674 3 роки тому +1

    Jake, you say you leave to pump running the whole time, but I tried shutting it and I still get bubbles, sometimes I turn it back on if I lose any vacuum. Do you find you need to add oil to the pump? I get some misting and find I have to add oil occasionally. Great info, thx for the videos. Tony

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  3 роки тому

      I change the oil after every long use.. I leave it on the entire time.. until bubbles are barely coming out.. the instructions for cactus juice specifically say to leave it on the entire time.. Thanks for watching.. I appreciate it.

  • @samwicks1756
    @samwicks1756 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video, going to have to try this...good info. Did you upload a video of the mallet that you made?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому +1

      Sam Wicks Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it.. here’s a link to The Mallet video!! ua-cam.com/video/QCQnWCowSWM/v-deo.html

    • @samwicks1756
      @samwicks1756 5 років тому +1

      @@JakeThompson Just watched that video, awesome work man! wish i could have got in on that bidding! Very cool idea with the river through the mallet.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Sam Wicks Thanks Sam!! It went to a long time viewer.. I was pretty happy with the entire project.

  • @2newsomes
    @2newsomes 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info! Great videos, keep up the good work.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      TheTowelGuy Thanks Brother!! Appreciate it!! 👍👍👊👊

  • @jimmatheson9125
    @jimmatheson9125 4 роки тому +2

    It seems that you can’t buy denatured alcohol here any more, what can you use instead?

  • @docwatson8003
    @docwatson8003 5 років тому +1

    Good video. Very informative. Is that an NRL Melbourne Storm banner in the background? I'm a Tigers fan.

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Doc Watson My Buddy Dirk from Sumo’s Projects gave me the flag! I’m glad you liked the video!👍👍

  • @MatthewsFabrication
    @MatthewsFabrication Рік тому +1

    How is that vacuum pump holding up? Just curious if it's started smoking after 12 hours of use for one item?
    If so have you bought a better vacuum pump or is that one still running strong?

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  Рік тому

      It’s held up fine.. I would change the oil after every long run.. cactus juice has changed their formula and the pump doesn’t need to stay on anywhere near as long.. I change the oils after every 5 or 6 runs now.. as far as smoking… I have a couple different vacuum pumps.. they all steam a bit and it can be noticeable in the shop.. but I wouldn’t call it smoking.

    • @MatthewsFabrication
      @MatthewsFabrication Рік тому +1

      @@JakeThompson Thats great to hear. I have two vacuum pumps for vacuum forming, where they are on for only minutes at a time, they tend to smoke or put a fine oil mist in the air... I'm in a one car garage though, so I may notice it more than you. Can't wait to give this a try.

  • @oldreprobate2748
    @oldreprobate2748 5 років тому +1

    Excellent video instruction. Thank you.

  • @huwdavies5264
    @huwdavies5264 5 років тому +1

    Hi Jake, Just found you as I was looking for videos on stabilising. Have watched Zac and Casey many times. Like your explanation of the process and will check out Heath Knuckles' channel. Cheers, Huw

    • @JakeThompson
      @JakeThompson  5 років тому

      Huw Davies Awesome!! I’m glad you enjoyed it and welcome to the channel! 👍👍👊