The claim some people say is more about her profiting from that while ballroom members don't have the same chance. But I think it's more complex and envolves much more things to just say that. And beyond what you said, she never done those things alone, there was always a bunch of collaborators. In the case of Vogue, Luis and Jose provided all that and they enjoyed a successful career after! Thanks for commenting!
@rickresenha I think at the end of the day she's a pop star and made a popular song and that's just her job...some jobs just make more than others. If this is coming across sharp it's not supposed to lol x
Madonna gravou Vogue para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Só. Assim como tentou se juntar com Michael Jackson e não conseguiu (ainda bem!): para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como se juntou com Britney Spears e Christina Aguilera no início dos anos 2000: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como ela se juntou com Justin Timberlake logo na sequência: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como ela se juntou com o sem sal do Maluma depois: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como ela se juntou com Beyoncé no mashup de Vogue com Break My Soul: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Não há nada na carreira da Madonna que tenha sido feito simplesmente por arte ou por criatividade. Ela gruda naquilo que a favorece numericamente.
*References* Documentaries: Paris Is Burning. Jennie Livingston. 1990 Strike A Pose. Reijer Zwaan, Ester Gould. 2016 A Brief History of Voguing: nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/brief-history-voguing The Harlem Renaissance in Black Queer History: nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/harlem-renaissance-black-queer-history From Underground Subculture to Global Phenomenon: An Oral History of Ballroom Within Mainstream Culture: www.vogue.com/article/oral-history-ballroom-pride-2023 What is voguing, and why is it an important part of queer identity?: www.vogue.in/culture-and-living/content/what-is-voguing-and-why-is-it-an-important-part-of-queer-identity PRIDE THROWBACK: LOVE BALL ’89: vmagazine.com/article/pride-throwback-love-ball-89/ Dance Pride: The Gay Origins of Dance Music: www.vice.com/en/article/aeqxwz/dance-pride-the-gay-origins-of-dance-music Burning down the house: why the debate over Paris is Burning rages on: www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/24/burning-down-the-house-debate-paris-is-burning How Madonna Became Madonna: An Oral History: www.rollingstone.com/feature/how-madonna-became-madonna-an-oral-history-94288/ Madonna: The Truth Is She Never Left You: web.archive.org/web/20120203171357/news.advocate.com/post/16914705360/madonna-the-truth-is-she-never-left-you ‘Vogue’ Producer Shep Pettibone’s First Interview in 20 Years: On Making a Madonna Classic & Why He Left Music Behind: www.billboard.com/music/music-news/vogue-producer-shep-pettibone-interview-6575923/ Madonna Looks Back: The Rolling Stone Interview: www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/madonna-looks-back-the-rolling-stone-interview-197575/ Voguing and the ballroom scene of New York City 1989-92 -- Regnault, Chantal; Baker, Stuart; Soul Jazz Records -- 2011 -- London_ Soul Jazz Books Winsor, Andie. “Ballroom Refuses to Burn: Exploitation versus Community Education in Documentaries about Voguing and the Ballroom Community.” Nota Bene: Canadian Undergraduate Journal of Musicology 16, no. 1 (2023): 74-92. doi.org/10.5206/ notabene.v16i1.16614. Tucker, Ricky. "And the Category Is... Inside New Yorks Vogue, House, and Ballroom Community". Beacon Press Boston. 2018 www.youtube.com/@BALLROOMTHROWBACKS Ballroom Genre: rateyourmusic.com/genre/ballroom/
Madonna always credited drag culture etc...cultural appreciation
The claim some people say is more about her profiting from that while ballroom members don't have the same chance. But I think it's more complex and envolves much more things to just say that. And beyond what you said, she never done those things alone, there was always a bunch of collaborators. In the case of Vogue, Luis and Jose provided all that and they enjoyed a successful career after! Thanks for commenting!
@rickresenha I think at the end of the day she's a pop star and made a popular song and that's just her job...some jobs just make more than others. If this is coming across sharp it's not supposed to lol x
Madonna is amazing
Great video. New subscriber here
Thank you for your support 🙏 You are very welcome 😊
Madonna gravou Vogue para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Só. Assim como tentou se juntar com Michael Jackson e não conseguiu (ainda bem!): para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como se juntou com Britney Spears e Christina Aguilera no início dos anos 2000: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como ela se juntou com Justin Timberlake logo na sequência: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como ela se juntou com o sem sal do Maluma depois: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Assim como ela se juntou com Beyoncé no mashup de Vogue com Break My Soul: para fazer sucesso e conseguir dinheiro. Não há nada na carreira da Madonna que tenha sido feito simplesmente por arte ou por criatividade. Ela gruda naquilo que a favorece numericamente.
*References*
Documentaries:
Paris Is Burning. Jennie Livingston. 1990
Strike A Pose. Reijer Zwaan, Ester Gould. 2016
A Brief History of Voguing: nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/brief-history-voguing
The Harlem Renaissance in Black Queer History: nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/harlem-renaissance-black-queer-history
From Underground Subculture to Global Phenomenon: An Oral History of Ballroom Within Mainstream Culture: www.vogue.com/article/oral-history-ballroom-pride-2023
What is voguing, and why is it an important part of queer identity?: www.vogue.in/culture-and-living/content/what-is-voguing-and-why-is-it-an-important-part-of-queer-identity
PRIDE THROWBACK: LOVE BALL ’89: vmagazine.com/article/pride-throwback-love-ball-89/
Dance Pride: The Gay Origins of Dance Music: www.vice.com/en/article/aeqxwz/dance-pride-the-gay-origins-of-dance-music
Burning down the house: why the debate over Paris is Burning rages on: www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/24/burning-down-the-house-debate-paris-is-burning
How Madonna Became Madonna: An Oral History: www.rollingstone.com/feature/how-madonna-became-madonna-an-oral-history-94288/
Madonna: The Truth Is She Never Left You: web.archive.org/web/20120203171357/news.advocate.com/post/16914705360/madonna-the-truth-is-she-never-left-you
‘Vogue’ Producer Shep Pettibone’s First Interview in 20 Years: On Making a Madonna Classic & Why He Left Music Behind: www.billboard.com/music/music-news/vogue-producer-shep-pettibone-interview-6575923/
Madonna Looks Back: The Rolling Stone Interview: www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/madonna-looks-back-the-rolling-stone-interview-197575/
Voguing and the ballroom scene of New York City 1989-92 -- Regnault, Chantal; Baker, Stuart; Soul Jazz Records -- 2011 -- London_ Soul Jazz Books
Winsor, Andie. “Ballroom Refuses to Burn: Exploitation versus Community Education in Documentaries about Voguing and the Ballroom Community.” Nota Bene: Canadian
Undergraduate Journal of Musicology 16, no. 1 (2023): 74-92. doi.org/10.5206/ notabene.v16i1.16614.
Tucker, Ricky. "And the Category Is... Inside New Yorks Vogue, House, and Ballroom Community". Beacon Press Boston. 2018
www.youtube.com/@BALLROOMTHROWBACKS
Ballroom Genre: rateyourmusic.com/genre/ballroom/
The gays are not oppressed. Stop victimising yourself.
Sure I will tell them 🏃 But what you are saying is an unrealistic absurd.
Just got rejected from a job cause being Bisexual, go out of your bubble.
Go away
@@danthompson447 You go away. I am not a victim. I will be bullied by nobody.
The fact that you can defend Yourserlf or make Justice doesn’t that you were not a victim in first place.