My Patrol Loadout from my trip to Appalachistan
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- I was invited on a mock mission to Appalachistan by a couple of guys who have been past contestants on @officialserechallenge .
In this video I go over my pack and chest rig loadouts and explain why I packed what I did.
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For everyone wondering, I did not include my on body kit in this video. Just the ruck and chest rig contents. But since so many asked, my map and navigation/comms notebook is in a thigh pocket in my pants, my field knife is on my belt, and in my field shirt pockets are a SAK, buzzsaws, signal panel, ferro rod/fire starter, large ziplock bag and water tabs, and a small red led light.
"you're looking good Dutch"
"It's been a long time general"
Thanks for uploading! Atb from 🇬🇧
Thank you for the mention. As always great video!
@@ThePreparedWanderer appreciate ya Wendell!
Awesome
I grew up in the mountains of both Virginia’s and if I had to choose a place to post up, the Appalachian mountains would be my choice! The deeper and tougher the terrain the better!
Thanks Jay. Keep training!
Great setup. I'm a huge fan of the Endurance Sustainment Co. Kits. I carry one in the vehicle's, go bag and bug out/ruck pack.
I really like the well thought out kit setup you're running. I've been wanting to get out to central or Eastern PA out of Philly to work with my kit a little more. Everything is low pro for me in an urban AO.
That music brings me back to a kid waiting for the predator to come on HBO.
Bazinga!
The predator theme is perfect for this! Great video as always mate
Great video brother. Hopefully next year I can make it up there with you guys.
That would be awesome!
One vital thing missing for GSW is chest seals.
You’ve committed the classic blunder: getting involved in a land war in Appalachistan.
That's only a mistake for the conventional force looking to impose its will on the natives. The ferocity of the local irregulars is why it is a blunder for the opposition.
We were there in support of our Appalachistani brothers.
Good evening Sir! Well, I’m starting your think that you just can’t put out a bad video!! lol.
Seriously, great stuff as always. I really dig the kit and overall setup!
Enjoy and take care!!
Thanks. I always appreciate your support.
Excellent.
Evening jay. Awesome kit loadout and awesome video . I gotta get me a new one of those Bergens again . Thanks for sharing ATB Sam 👍🇬🇧
Thank you Sam!
I was waiting for this video. Great setup Jay. You're really putting that scout rig through its paces
Appreciate ya Fattie!
Brother it was a great time training and thank you for all the extra work you did in filming
Thank you! Appreciate that! It was great meeting you and spending time out in the field with ya!
Pennsylvania is great for outdoor stuff. I live in Athens. Up nere the border with NY. Good stuff. 👍
Agree, PA has great areas to go play in!
Great job. The Crew and I are setting up for a LP/OP weekend end of month can't wait.
That's awesome! Love hearing from folks that are getting out!
Nice!
Why the shaky camera? Maybe a tripod would help.
You really need to start wearing m81 more… your making me want to get a tiger stripe top
Interesting video mate! Couple of points;
- Your compass needs to be in your clothing, not your grab bag.
- Fighting kit only in your chest rig, the misc. items should be in your bergen. You'll be pushed for space for the essential items in a chest rig as it is.
- A chest rig isn't the best option for OPs, you'll be laying flat for most of the time.
- Chicken wire, a folding saw, secateurs and a cam net are needed for OP construction.
Thanks Tom...
So my main compass was in my field shirt. The one in the grab bag was a backup.
I agree 100% on the chest rig not being ideal for this. I should have taken my belt kit instead.
I need to do more work with OP construction. It's a weak spot of mine.
Always appreciate your feedback
@@themodernminuteman2557 no problem mate, not trying to criticise, just some observations based on my experience. 👍
@PreparedPathfinder those are worthwhile critiques!
I should have gone over my on body kit but had just done a video on what I carry in my pockets the prior month and didn't want to repeat myself.
Trips like this are good for shaking out what works, what doesn't, and to make needed changes for the next one. It's one reason we go do this.
And maybe consider non scented deodorant..but great go kit
@@rudysoto9735 tbh no need for any kind of deodorant.
looking good Jay!
Thanks buddy!
Good to see a grab bag in there Jay.. atb from the UK 🇬🇧..
Thank you! Got the grab bag idea from you guys!
Add a sewing kit, a signaling device(vs-17, chemlight on string, compass with Lumtape etc etc etc) add more water(collapsible canteen).
Not shown in video is signal panel, buzzsaws for signaling, and lenstic compass in field shirt pocket. My repair kit has 7-strand paracord that can be used for sewing with the awl on the SAK in field shirt pocket. Water wise I did feel that 5 and a half quarts were adequate for a water rich environment. I also had a folded up freezer size ziplock bag in my field shirt to use as an emergency water bag if needed.
All good recommendations.
@@themodernminuteman2557 ditch the underwear promotes crotch rot. Let the frank and beans free.
Lol... I've tried, believe me. The quick dry boxers briefs do good for me.
Couple things I need, thanks.
Outstanding Jay,
Thanks!
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GREAT Video... But dang it did you need an old Canuck recce guy too ....
Good stuff man👏
Thank you
I've noticed most of your items are camo or painted, except your gloves.
It's not a huge concern, but in some training I've done bare hands and black gloves can give you away relatively easy. You never realize how much your hands move until you're hiding. Just add a bit of paint to the backs at least. Just my 2 cents.
Great time training with you brother.
Back at ya bro!
Jay ... I didn't see a field knife. What do you usually go with? Standard Kabar type?
So my field knife was on my waist on my belt. I usually carry a KaBar or a large Bushcraft style knife and a SAK in a field shirt pocket.
Wish I had friends like yours!!!!
My buddy and I took some girls hiking/camping on the AT with weight on their backs. One girl started throwing up half way up the mountain and the other girl had all the color drained out of her face, it was hilarious, and also a reminder of how grueling some of those mountains are to hike up if you're not conditioned for it. Sleeping above the clouds made it all worth it though.
you uploaded well - take it easy, The,💥
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Great video, now COVER THOSE STINKIN SLEEPING PADS !!!!
What? This literally isn't a thing.
Im curious as to what state your in. Obviously dont want specific location but im in NC
@@wanderingthewilderness I'm in Ohio
Any reason going with a gatorade bottle rather than a more durable nalgene with filtering capabilities etc?
That's a good question... I've used Nalgenes for 30 years and a couple years ago was looking to buy a bunch more and realized that the bigger Gatorade bottles were a good alternative. We were already buying Gatorade for our kids sports so I just started saving the empties. The narrower mouth is easier to drink from and they last a year or two under regular use. The 16oz sized ones fit in bdu pockets nice as well.
Usually for fieldwork I just pre-filter with a cloth and treat with tabs. For backpacking I'll use regular Nalgenes and use a filter. It all works.
How you going to write down what you're observing without a note pad and pencil lol. Or did I miss it
@@keithf7976 notebook is on my body carried in a cargo pocket.
@themodernminuteman2557 it's a clean and organized kit.
I never could get guys to organized their kits , much less understand the importance of a note pad and pencil. Lol
@@keithf7976 thanks! Appreciate you commenting and watching!
Awesome!! Are you glad you went with the bergen pack over the med alice?
@@Crusader1097 yes I am. The med Alice would've been fine but there was no extra room for "just in case" stuff or if hurriedly trying to pack.
nice .. but what kind of minuteman are you without face paint?
You're thinking way to deep into this practice. This was an easy going light gathering.
Hey question for you. for civilian defense gear thoughts on chest rig like the quad flap vs Ibe like the crossfire dz-rig?
Been thinking about it I have a quad flap and really do like it but clearing off my chest and moving the weight seems potentially better for what may be to come. Thoughts?
@@NickAck23 so I am really a believer in chest rigs for being light/fast and/or l for direct action. LBE shines in patrolling.
In hindsight I would have been happier using my Smersh LBE for this specific outing.
Long patrols and Reconnaissance style use the LBE is gonna be best. Remember you can also wear a chest rig with your LBE. Look at old pictures from Vietnam and you'll see our guys wearing a 3 or 4 Mag chicom chest rig with their Alice LBE's.
As always mission dictates gear.
@@themodernminuteman2557 fair having both is definitely ideal. I’m getting more and more friends to finally start taking things seriously and have been thinking about it if they will only get one good piece of nylon Iv been leaning to lbe but I don’t even have one atm.
Do lbe play well with packs like the mystery ranch assault?
As always thanks for taking the time to respond love what you’re doing!
@@NickAck23 first. Yes I can wear my Mystery Ranch 2DAP with my lbe. Trick is wearing the pack high by shortening the length of the back panel. I can also wear a med Alice, direct action egg, and a shortback Bergen.
Most guys start off with a chest rig and there is nothing wrong at all with that. It will definitely work in a ton of scenarios. But the LBE is definitely the best choice for straight up patrolling work.
And thanks, appreciate ya!
@@themodernminuteman2557 it’s because chest rigs are cooler 😅 but thinking of pushing my buddy’s to start with an lbe. I’ll have to get one to, hardest part to decide is ranger green or m81
While I have a soft spot for M81, Ranger green just goes with everything.
Like the content, but invest in a gimbal or turn on the anti-shake on the phone. Hard to watch the shake.
I have a tripod I usually setup but this was very spur of the moment so I just used my phone.
Starting with the opening scene: 1. if contact is possible, you should be moving loosely between cover and concealment, not out in the open. 2. camo has classic issues of straight black rifles, glowing necks and wrists, and human shapes. Loadout: pretty good! Might want more in the IFAK, quick-clot, packing gauze, tape, nasal tube, cravat. 3. Outro: Walking out in the open? OMG, spray paint the sleep matts!!!. or cover them. blend, blend, and blend. No bare skin, please. From yoda, much to learn, you have.
4. Um, how were you going to report observations of activity? It seems implied that you were to report from the OP, but I didn't hear anything about a comm plan. Maybe 2A handled that? Didn't see the team laying wire. From what we see of terrain, you need to get some elevation for radio.
Aaaaaaaand here come the so called "subject matter experts" sitting on their couches at home telling us how they think it should be done instead of actually going out and doing it.
@@Swish82 I do actually do it. How did you conclude otherwise? And, I appreciate constructive criticism, as I have offered.
@dus777 @dus777 I think we did pretty well together considering that was the first time the 4 of us got together and conducted any kind of training. Also, there are a lot of things we did that weren't filmed. Like a comm plan. I don't believe for one second that you are giving any kind of constructive criticism. You just get off on telling everyone else that your way is the right way.
So do I need to bring a rifle on the Appalachian Trail
I firmly believe that a pistol should be a mandatory part of hiking/backpacking kit.
@@themodernminuteman2557 yes
Lose the woodland camo and go real tree camo. Also, don’t bring the old spice deodorant. Tell everyone you’re from the city. Otherwise solid kit. Coming from a true Appalachian
Looks solid, but heaven forbid you have to cut anything.
Thanks.
Not seen in video is sheath knife on my belt and a SAK in field shirt pocket.
@@themodernminuteman2557 knew you had that good stashed somewhere. Great video!
Invaded Pennsylvania once, didn't work out for us.
LOL
How many litres is the main pack ?
80 liters. It was maybe half full on this trip.
@@themodernminuteman2557 thanks for getting back to me buddy have a great day 🤙🏻
@BB-bq1xd you too buddy
Do you have Parkinsons?
Also, why go infantry loadout when an ultralite setup would be better? As in, why have sleep pads and 3rd line gear on a patrol?
Because a 24 hour mission can and HAS turned into a week long stay. We aren't the military who get resupply drops or the such. We need to carry all the sustainment we can. These ppl claiming all you need is 3 rifle magazines, 1 canteen of water and 1 MRE don't do any real training.
Where’s your admin pouch and maps of your AO, range cards, map protractor, grease pencils for your map case/waterproof maps, additional water in your ruck, additional sustainment rations? You need more than 2 spare mags in your ruck. I carry 14 mags on my vest, 1 in my rifle, and 20 spare mags on my ruck, 2 canteens on my vest, 2 canteens on my ruck, a water filtration system in my ruck for more water if needed, purification tablets on my vest and in my ruck, 3 MRE’s broken down to last me 6 days, additional sustainment items to maintain caloric intake on long patrols. You have to think outside the box, because you never know what you’ll encounter while on patrols. You have to have contingency plans in place in case you get cut off from your security element, or you can’t get resupplied.
Navigation kit was in a cargo pocket on my pants. Water wise, 5 and 1/2 liters was solid for this, especially with it being such a water rich environment. Lots of good spots away from the river for water supply as well without having to risk being seen out in the open.
14!? Son how much earth are you moving when you're low crawling? I'm calling bull shid. You're either trolling, or you don't train with your gear.
This is the dumbest comment I've seen this morning.
Jesus! 35 magazines for a 36hr patrol/LP-OP? You've got to be realistic about these things.
There's contingency for the unexpected and then there's the plan to break contact and withdraw.
35# ammo + 10# water + 5# food = an encumbrance factor with the remaining equipment.
Hell, I'd probably drop most of the shelter stuff and a good third of the rest for a 36hr setup and _still_ have plenty for a PACE plan.
Dump the deodorant. Save a few ounces.
If you're worried about a few ounces, then you should start counting pounds in the gym.
@@Swish82 , obviously you’re not a backpacker. Ounces add up to pounds and nobody cares what you smell like on the trail or on patrol. Still hit the gym.
@@WoodyXRay actually I carry the deodorant stick for chafing prevention. When it is warm and humid I get chaffed under my arms and between my thighs. A couple decades ago I discovered that applying regular stick deodorant in those areas periodically prevented it (it also works wonders on your feet if you are prone to getting blisters. So I keep a small stick in my kit for that reason.
@@themodernminuteman2557 yes, yes, I found gold bond friction prevention for that. (dry stick)
Shaky video & low quality?? Might be worth investing in something with higher quality
I was hoping my tax dollars would sponsor better content than this. Can't they get the production crew that did the videos for ISIS? Or are they going for a more "authentic" look now?
The "company" has had budget cuts
Thanks for the algorithm boost.
This comment gave me an aneurism.
@@2alphasolutions The degradation of the elites is really starting to show, even with $4.44 trillion in 2023 fed tax revenue.
@@Latrina_Bidet_IRS_Enfrocer you spelled "Enforcer" wrong.
Deodorant in a "Patrol Loadout" are you shiddin me? Also your pack should be no wider than your body! Two or three conventional compressed gauze (with correct application) will work better than any magic potion single "Combat Gauze" and have way more multi-purpose utility!
Actually dry deodorant sticks are great for areas that chaff easily such as between the thighs and under the arms. It's application has worked for me for years.
@@themodernminuteman2557 Yes I get it but only in a non scented form if at all possible! Odor / Scent Signature is a real thing! If you've spent a week or two in the bush you know what I'm talking about!
@@GLEN-ys7qt I second that