@Miles Goodison-Fearon That's true, Kove, Okumoto and Kanan all appeared as villains on Walker, Texas Ranger, but in separate episodes. Norris shot Kove and beat Okumoto in a fight, whereas Kanan was defeated by James Wlcek (Walker's student, Trent Malloy). (The Sean Kanan episode ended with one of the female guests singing the Walker theme song, very much off pitch.) It's also true that Zabka and Macchio did not appear on Walker. (One or both of them may have had bigger fish to fry at the time.) As for T.I.G., in the 1990s, he apparently started cutting down on acting. (Still, while T.I.G. is a black belt, he was never a world champion, unlike 6-time champion Chuck Norris. But he would have been competitive against Walker while the fight lasted.)
as a kid, never in a million years would I have thought I would see Johnny Lawrence going toe to toe with Terry Silver..... This series is simply amazing.
@@hectorbarbossa4403 I’m not sure he would’ve won if the Silver’s cheapshot didn’t happen because Silver is a real good fighter too. But Ik that Silver will have a hard time beating Johnny
Kreese Silver Johnny and Daniel are about evenly matched although i would argue that Daniel has a disadvantage in Strength because by just looking it seems clear that Johnny Silver and Kreese are physically stronger The 4 have different things going for against them: For example Kreese and Silvee have a disadvantage from being in their 70s where J&D are only early 50s Silver has a reach advanatge of around 5-6 Inches over Kreese and Johnny and as much as 8 inches over Daniel Skill Overall is even with the 4 but Kreese and Silver have very few defense other than some Blocks and counters Johnny has good offense but his Defense while better than Silver and Kreese still lacks Daniel has very good Defense but not much good offense (his offense except for PP is certainly not as good as that of the other 3) Experience: Kreese has the most experiemce followed by Silvee and both have at least around 15-20 years more experience than Daniel and Johnny Now out of the 4 i think Kreese really gets underestimated compared to Silver for example He had 2 Fights with Johnny current and 2 wirh Myagi that we know of While Myagi whooped hil 2 Times you cant really hold that against him as anyone except Sato and current Chozen would not even get a single Hit on myagi The 2 Fights wirh Johnny in the First one he didnt even intend to hurt him because he wanted to gain his trust to work with him and the fight Was still even even though Johnny foughr agressive and then got him in a chokehold after he let him go Kreese punched him once and then they stopped. The S3 Fight while Kreese got a cheapshot and Johnny had the upper hand for most of the fight before Kreese cheapshotted him i don't think he would even kill him but just Choke him out (as evidenced by s4 we know he cares for Johnny) his fight against Daniel went in his Favour and he had enough energy to Tackle Daniel after fighting Johnny and almost won Till Daniel used the Pressure Points. Another evidence for his Skill could be that Silver obviously fears Kreese and Acts a bit beta around him (not just because of PTSD) but also because he likely knows that Kreese is stronger). My Overall fighter Ranking would be 1. Chozen (current) 2. Johnny 3. Kreese 4. Daniel 5. Silver
let me change that for u 1. chozen 2. jhonny 3. silver 4.kreese 5.daniel only valid one bruh silver beat the shit out of jhonny without breaking a sweat the only reasn i put silver third and jhonny in 2nd is bcuz silver is to cocky and gets caught off gaurd and has more experience than johnny but jhonny went it comes to hand to hand combat is better than silver as he knows more defence techneques and silver doesnt
@@hectorbarbossa4403 I can't put Silver last, I put him a head of everyone except chozen and Kreese , Tbh. He is probably the better fighter than Kreese at this point, but like he admitted, that's his weakness. Chozen is the next best thing to Miyagi, Daniel is the weakest
I love how in this scene you can see Kreese's human side come out. Silver was right, Johnny is John's weakness. That's why Silver is far more dangerous than Kreese. He is not hindered by emotional connections, he is a cold and calculated sociopath.
More dangerous? No. Both are dangerous but Kreese does have a special survivor/fighter edge NO ONE else there has & in a few days from now we shall All watch him exploit it Big Time on both Silver & rest of Cobra Kai losers & others. Amen!!!
@@teoariesda5371 money comes & goes. What ultimately matters is HOW & when you use your Money $$$$ & resources/firepower & more so. Eg. Using it smartly for GOOD vs Using it idiotically/cruelly for Evil or God forbid, as in some cases, using it Smartly for EVIL purposes yet then again those few in the latter category historically have almost always ended Up VERY VERY BADLY (in every way imaginable- dictators usually) throughout modern world history (military history and/or political history). All that aside man, there ARE ways to "deprive" any Rich EVIL man/men of their Ill gotten riches. Peaceful ways & non peaceful ways, whatever works provided the Mission & End result IS truly worthy honorable good & just leading to Victory (our victory) & His imminent assured destruction & Defeat. I could easily write a small book but it's true so true since before Medieval times & more so (globally) over past 180 Years.....History does have a weird way of often repeating itself, oh yes! Amen! Cheers, mate! 😎
Ikr finally I see Kreese on his side intervene and saying "let him go" he said himself that Johnny was like his son and his best student. I hope we'll see in the 6th season how they're bounding finally.
That’s the thing Silver did change but he can also change back because Kreese disappointed him and Daniel still hates him(understandably) even though he tried to make amends
I wished Daniel would of gotten a chance to fight terry silver would of been nice to see them both show up. What the fuck happened in the end was crazy. I thought kreese and silver were supposed to be best friends
Never in a million years did I think I would ever see Johnny Lawrence meet Terry Silver, let alone fight each other! I’m so happy that we got this show because we get to see the students be able to take on the former sensei’s since they’re older. We couldn’t see it before because they were kids
Silver just steals the show, in my opinion. The fact he took a 15 year break and can still act like Terry is crazy. I love his character, and the end of the season made me love him more.
Yup, love it. I binged watch it and was loving Terry Silver. He is a complex character and has brought Cobra Kai to a whole new level. This is awesome.
Can we just appreciate how they kept their signature sounds when they fight? Johnny has his 'AYEEAA. AYEEE" and Terry's is "ASSAA ASAI" It's a great detail and it's also very nostalgic. God I love this show
What’s truly terrifying about the comment Sensei Silver makes is that it shows he has ZERO fear of Johnny and his karate skills. Johnny is clearly outmatched.
I only wish when johnny and daniel were training each other that we got to see the miyagi realisation with johhny doing it. The old "show me wax on" then deflecting a 15 hit combo lol would have been sick to see johnny do it.
I loved Terry's character, how he was trying to stay chilled in his home because he knew himself better. Kreese encourages him to come back and wakes up the real maniac, the karate psycho. This series is just so much fun
Like johnny when he brought kreece back into the fold. Kreece resurrected a demon and it came back to fight him. Silver was trying to keep his demon caged.
Just like how Kreese managed to turn Johnny's own students against him, Terry will probably turn the rest of Cobra Kai (except for Tory) against Kreese.
You ain’t lying my friend! I love Martial Arts in general, loved The Karate Kid movie series, and Cobra Kai is like crack. Damn, the writing is so good and the episodes are set up to end like cliff hangers so you just want to see more 🔥 🐍 🥋 📺
The actors who played Bobby and Vidal in the first movie were legit martial artist before doing the movie. And Sean Kanan (Barnes in KK3) was a martial artist too.
@@cybernautadventurer True. Silver's long limbs could make big targets for Chozen's Miyagi-Do pressure point technique. It could be a Daniel vs Kreese redux.
@@cybernautadventurer chozen gon kick his ass lmao i doubt daniel stands a chance against silver even with his miyagi points, only chozen could beat him
“You wanna see some more?” is such a brilliant callback to the third film, where Kreese responded with “I wanna see A LOT MORE”, the fact that this time he responds with “Let him go” shows that his character has fundamentally changed. Edit: A lot of people have responded with the view that Kreese hasn’t changed, he just cares about Johnny and not Daniel. Given that, at the start of Karate Kid 2, Kreese was choking Johnny out for losing the tournament I still think that this attempt at mercy shows a change in his character.
I’m still amazed how sympathetic and merciful Kreese got this season, He even flash-backed to when he almost choked Johnny to death and didn’t want history to repeat itself
Even Silver found out Kreese's weakness IS Johnny. The fact that he remembered what broke his relationship with Jhonny correctly and did the right thing to Tory tell a lot. Kreese in the end, got his own reason about why he act like this, but when he care, HE CARE. Got broken in the military, keep repeating the same speech. He is simply living in the past. Will never accept defeat, but can learn and know when he's wrong. After been betrayed by Silver, he will HAVE to learn the error of his way. THAT'S what I'm looking for, for him, in season 5 and I would like him to learn from..... Chozen!
That just shows that Kreese was never a bad man and the man he was before in back in the 60s is still in there,people hating and judging him have no idea what men like him have been through because war isn't something you can just get over or shake off no matter how much time passes and after all the things those American Vietnam veterans went through and how the people back at home treated them was just disgusting and despicable that was a bad time for everyone no matter how much the world moves on it's not something you get over overnight,no soldier should have to go home to that it's bad enough they had to go through all that trauma in the war,do they really have to come home to that crap? Yeah vietnam was a pointless war and I sure wouldn't have went because it was a money greedy war and the good men that believed they were fighting for freedom just wanted to defend they're country and they still deserved their heroes welcome,I respect all soldiers that fought in Vietnam it's not they're faults the war happened they were just doing they're job,all that protesting and hating should've been for the US government not the troops so it's no wonder Kreese lost his way I can't blame him,no one will ever understand what soldiers go through so it's easier to judge them because they don't have the balls to go serve their country themselves I'm joining the military soon this year and I can fully relate too Kreese in the 60s,a young honourable man wanting to be a hero and serve his country Kreese will defiantly redeem himself in season 5
Love how the actor playing Silver isn’t phoning in, hot only does he nail the character but you can tell that he’s happy being there and wants to be there.
@@stevelibby6852 This series is amazing! He’s proud of the work they’ve achieved this far. It’s number 1 and shot in the rankings over on Netflix. To think the first 2 seasons actually started on UA-cam red.
@@adrianaavila8853 I watched first couple seasons with GF, it was very clever but I had enough. I am all for suspension of disbelief for the sake of entertainment, but the plot armor a tad heavy on this one ;) It's a great show and the actors on it seem geniunely nice.
I am 42 years old. When I was seven years old I remember playing with karate kid action figures and coming up with dreams and scenarios on how things would go past the movies. What they are doing with the show goes above and beyond what I could have dreamed of when I was a child. HOLY SH*t If somebody told me when I was seven years old that something like this would come out when I was 40 I would’ve lost my damn mind
I hear you man and I'm 26 years old I grew up loving the karate kid movies and so this was huge fan service bringing back all these guys and the fact that they all look so good while playing their roles is just insane to me. As if they've been preparing to do this for a long time.
@@manuellim6284 yeah man, I could never do the complex and high kicks in Taekwondo, not even back in high school when I was actively studying it. To me a kick is a strike to the torso lol. And I would mainly do it in sparring so I could get closer and use hands. 🙂 One of these days I want to go back to regularly studying martial arts but probably not TKD. Possibly Wing Chun, Choy Li Fut or Karate. Need something that emphasizes hands a little more. Good that I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, where we some really old studios run by Asian-American families. There's a Choy Li Fut kwoon, family owned, that apparently has a long list of tournament trophies, that would probably be a good place to go. I would go Jeet Kune Do, since Dan Innosanto said that Bruce Lee actually didn't kick much in real life (outside of movies), but need more grounding in traditional first. 🙂
Dude, the MVP of season 4 hands down. Bringing him back made the show much more greater than it already is. I pray they keep him until the series finale.
When Silver was teaching the students about making their opponent think what you want them to think, he did it here by planting it in Johnny's head by saying "let's see what you learned" regarding defense from Larusso. He put Johnny in punch-defense mode so bad he got locked in & Silver swung himself into kick position & caved in Johnny's chest. Well done writers!
Johnny was good at defending, as Silver waited for the offense. Once Johnny tried to strike, that is when Silver saw the opening and counter struck. I guess Silver knew when to look when the defense stopped. I agree the writers did do great.
@@Foxentails From my viewpoint its because he lived with traditional karate literally for his entire life. While everyone else could just start back up in karate and the weird belt system that makes the teens black belys in a few months, Chozen did it the proper way. He even instructed the military when he was younger. Yes he lost to daniel but tbh everyone feels like daniel shouldnt ever been able to beat chozen when they eas younger.
@@truewalls8292 he’s great and he was the best in this season, but let’s not pretend William zabka isn’t the best part of this show by a mile. He steals every scene he’s in
I Really Enjoyed How Terry And Kreese Weren't Ever On The Same Page In This Season... I Expected Them To Act As The Closest Friends But This Added More Depth And Conflict To This Season's Plot... I Love This Show Much..
Haha, Terry gave Kreese the anal treatment. He was so shocked at the end- my friend has done me dirty, after all I've done for him. I wonder if they had gay sex, when they were in the army!
Johnny and Terry Silver fighting and Johnny using miyagi do techniques are two things I didn't expect but was still awesome to see even though Johnny lost. This show never ceases to amaze me :)
Everything about that "let's goooo" was just sublime. TIG and the writers were just brilliant making us wait for crazy Terry to earn this moment to come out.
@@kodesh1674 I would say no. Thomas Ian Griffith said in an interview that he watched his stunt double execute a kick and immediately say to himself, “I am faster than that!” So, I think he decided to do his own stunts, at least for this scene.
I love how the writers have retained his flamboyant fighting style of using high kicks and elaborate moves rather than going for a quick knocking out of the fight attack
What I found immediately telling about this scene was how concerned Kreese was right away. Kreese knew that Johnny stood no chance against Silver. Just like Daniel tried to warn him. “You can’t strike first with this guy!”
Everyone is forgetting the key thing that happened. Johnny was nearly knocked unconscious before the fight began. This is why he lost. He didn’t stand a chance after that. He was completely fucked up
@@crazytrain111 it’s a street fight that Johnny himself picked. Johnnys taken hits before and also blindsided Terry. I love Johnny, but Terry is just better. At least for now.
@@LetsGetitBoah that makes no sense. They blindsided him with a head kick, we see Johnny on the ground barely able to function. Why do you think they wrote it that way? It’s done that way for a reason. You injure the good guy so the bad guy can win without actually being better than the good guy. If they wanted to show silver was just the superior fighter they would have done it, but instead they did it this way… because this is who silver is, preying on weakness. He doesn’t have to be the better fight because he will find or create a weakness and exploit it. He damn near kicked johnnies head off his shoulders right when he walked in the door. Johnny had no shot after that. And Johnny didn’t blindside him with a head kick. Head kicks are the most dangerous, devastating strikes in fighting. Johnny tagged him a few times with some decent shots but Silver had already done all the damage he needed to do. Johnny ate a head kick and a strike to his throat and still went toe to toe with him.
@@dillon_1944 not just a “fair” fight because silver will always fight dirty. Just as long as Johnny isn’t injured before the fight starts I think Johnny wins. Because in a fair fight silver will still throw neck strikes and other dirty shit but I think Johnny can overcome that stuff. But what he can’t overcome is a clean head kick before the fight begins.
Silver loves his lead leg sidekicks to the stomach because the fighter things he is going up top by his knee line but switches and hits the stomach knocking Johnny off balance. Johnny also told Miguel to only use the throat hit for serious situations only.
@@Fusionbomb-nd4hi Yeah, I was waiting for the "I wanna see a lot more" line that never came. I think the writers were trying to show us that Kreese was starting to change a little. Either that or they were showing us how he feels completely differently about Johnny getting beat up as opposed to Danny Boy.
One of the best fights in the whole series… and shows the level of skills Silver has. We didn’t see enough in Karate Kid 3. It wouldn’t be a Silver kick without some ASAAAH!!
Well he tried it with Miaygi- you could see him try to do his roundhouse kick, but Miaygi is Super Yoda level, outside this Universe, it would take an Alien from outer space to defeat him!
This is one of the best fights in the series? I guess I don't have much to look forward to. I just started watching it and if these horrible stage fights that don't even look like good karate, much less actual fighting, are the best the series has, I'm in for disappointment. This was embarrassing to anyone who actually knows how to fight in any discipline that actually does combat.
I think they aged him. I noticed the crows feet makeup. I know in real life he's like same age as Ralph Macchio or close to it, so I think they've aged him a bit to look more like Krease's age.
Kreese definitely has goodness in him, the look on his face when Johnny was getting beaten said it all, the way he spoke about seeing Johnny with a black eye to Terry, the amount of times he tried to give Johnny another chance at returning to Cobra Kai and the way he defended Tory against the landlord and against Amanda, after being betrayed by Terry, he might just look in the mirror and start changing into a better person. I’m not saying he’s some saint he’s still an antagonist but maybe he’ll evolve into an antihero of some kind
I agreed with you Kreese becoming an antihero. But it’ll definitely take so much time to let Johnny n Daniel to forgive him. But I can imagine in the last 2 episodes of season 5 they can definitely forgive him
I like how the show has shown that John Kreese isn't a full on 100% evil villian but rather a complicated, flawed, and conflicted character who has (mostly) valid reasons for being the way he is.
yeah you can tell Terry's actor has been a lifelong martial artist in his movement alone and I'm pretty sure the guy who plays Johnny kept up on Tang Soo Do after Karate Kid
@@thepants1450 think i remember seeing somewhere that william zabka (guy who plays johnny) is a second degree greenbelt which apparently is about midway to black belt
Because he's doing what he taught his students: if you opponent is reactive, you control what they do. Terry threw punches to set Johnny up for the finishing kick.
Silver forced Johnny to go defense when his whole motto up to that point was to STRIKE FIRST. Credit Miyago-do for allowing Johnny to stand up to Silver for a while longer.
I love how human and complex they made Silver this season. I feel like there’s a part of him that’s jealous of Kreese’s sentimentality towards Johnny and resents Johnny for it. You can see the pain and absolute rage on his face.
Hmm. I think it's not resentment (but it could be), rather I think it's disgust about Kreese's hypocrisy. No mercy, no exceptions, except with Johnny Lawrence. Kreese showed weakness and Silver followed in his superior's footsteps, by overthrowing his Captain and becoming the new Captain.
@@josephsloop8865 When Dimitri said Robby was full Sith, he wasn't that far off, some things Cobra Kai do like using their anger, betraying each other etc is very Sithy, except they use Karate instead of the force
@@josephsloop8865 Silver's last words to Kreese "Don't worry about Lawrence. I'll take care of him too" was a pretty petty dig. Also he was pissed that it was never really about bringing back the glory days, it always about Johnny. There's def some jealousy there. Mixed with what you said, the hypocrisy.
Kreese seems to have it all - wealth, power, flashy cars, mansion. But there is ONE thing he does not have and cannot buy -- Love. Kreese has love. Love for Johnny and for Cobra Kai and his students. Terry is mad jealous at that.
You can't deny that Daniel is the brains and Johnny is the ruthlessness between the two. But I would have to agree with what Daniel said to Johnny about Silver, "you cannot strike first with this guy".... It's unfortunate that Johnny had to learn the hard way.
Fr like I kno it’s all movies and a show but Terry Silver honestly scares me. And thinking about how sadistic and twisted he really is when u get deep into it makes u terrified of him. And honestly I love it lol
@@skullfacegaro2716 BRO!!!! MANNNNN.... Let me tell you are not the only one!!! Terry silver scares a lot of us!!!! My friend, I can't figure out to save my life how he could be stopped!!!! Did you see how sadistic even in the fight between him and Johnny that he was?! That smile and that laugh, and when he hollared WOOOO!!! Not to mention backstabbing the man who has supposedly saved his life in Vietnam and he pledged eternal allegiance and loyalty! And with his money and evil ways and how conniving he is..... YOU AIN'T DID NOTHING BUT STARTED A CONVERSATION NOW 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Part of me feels sad & bad for Silver when he says “I thought this is what you wanted” to Kreese. Kreese had just previously treated him poorly when discussing their capture back in Vietnam & making silvers ptsd kick in which was very low of kreese to do. Silver in my opinion was a true friend to Kreese & kreese took advantage of that. Now Kreese has awaken Silvers inner beast & he’s paying the price for it. Something to be learned here & that’s that no matter what side you’re on, there’s something very valuable & fragile about loyalty. Takes years to build and not much to break, so let that sink in.
@@mahad813 yeah come on are you going to excuse Silvers Actions just based on Trauma Wasnt right from Kreese to do that but Silver is a sick maniac and Psychopath, Kreese is just on the wrong path
@@hectorbarbossa4403 Nah. Kreese is just as bad as Silver if not worse. Kreese deserves to be in jail but not for Stingray but for choking a young Johnny Lawrence, punching Demitri, enabling his students to be thugs and terrorize throughout the Valley
@@stoelgeen203I gotta feeling in season 6 Terry Silver will find a way out of jail and Daniel, Chozen Johnny Lawrence, Kreese and Mike Barnes will find out and it'll be a Mike Barnes vs Silver !
@Oscar Rodriguez It's so funny you say that because, while the logical progression for most would be for Daniel and Terry to finally go at it after Karate Kid 3, I can't lie I anticipated and enjoyed far more the fight between Johnny and Silver. Like you say, it's just so out there and yet it fits absolutely perfect. Plus with it being Johnny's show (it's got a massive main cast, but let's be honest, it's still Johnny as the absolute de-facto protagonist), it was nice to see him take the reins against Terry.
Terry’s reverse side kick hits Johnny hard…knocks him back about 4 to 5ft. Shows how powerful of a fighter Terry is..Thomas still has it after all these years. When Kreese says at the beginning that “karate isn’t a phase..it’s a way of life. You can leave it for awhile, but it never really leaves you.” That’s an incredibly accurate statement.
I've done martial arts most of my life. That statement is 100% accurate. Anytime I've had to take a break whether it was school, covid, injury, etc. I got back into it real quick and most of the muscle memory is as fresh as when I was still learning and practicing daily
@@WailfulSeeker82 same for me…I started teaching a few teens that were getting bullied at school and every move, block, punch, stance, kick, grabs etc all still there like it never left.
@@UA-camUserNineEleven So am I. However, I don't think the new dojo name should be Miyagi Fang. If they can get Sean Kanan to appear on the show for the rest of it's run, Mike Barnes should rename it Agoura Do, after the furniture store. After all, what is burned down should be rebuilt into something better, right? Thank you for reading.
The way Thomas Ian Griffith plays terry silver is so on point. The way he say “okay pretty boy, let’s go” with so much intensity is perfect. As well as the way he’s smiling as Johnny is blocking his punches.
Terry was absolutely hilarious in Karate Kid 3, couldn't take him seriously as a villain at all and I loved it. He was just as good in Cobra Kai although I could take him seriously this time.
The best example is when he's teaching Daniel to destroy the wooden dummy lol. When I heard it in Cobra Kai it just instantly made me crack up lol. Apparently that's his war cry
I love how Terry Sliver always keeps them at the distance, at the end of his kicks, if they step in he moves back, or he circles like a cobra setting up his opponent in to a trap to get blasted. Brilliant choreography. 👏
I liked how the writers slowly developed the way Silver slid back into his old ways. It was not unlike the way the Kreese character slowly manipulated control of the fictional organization away from the pseudo protagonist Mr. Lawrence. I love the foreshadowing used by the writers to set up the twist at the end. The story, as improbable as it may be, is well constructed and entertaining. This is a well written show. The character's leap off the screen. You can be the greatest actor in the world, but without good material your work will stink. I continue to be amazed at the quality of the actors in this series also. They must believe in this project. I also like the foundation the writers are developing for the future of this show. Can't wait for the next installment.
Kreese, the king of manipulation was out-manipulated by Silver! Very shaky ground for Silver though.... It all rests on Stingray not flipping on him. I'll bet Kreese is going to really regret that he was such a dick to Stingray when Stingray tried to come back... lol
It's a shame Thomas Ian Griffith really didn't pursue acting. The dude saved KK3. He played a good villain in Kull the Conqueror about 7 years later too. And then pursued life off camera. SO HAPPY he came back for this show but man, the guy played this role to perfection.
Didn't really pursue acting? He's been doing it since 1986. That's longer than most of the people who appeared in the KK franchise. He took breaks here and there to work behind the scenes and be with his family.
In this scene, we finally see another side to Kreese. It's amazing how three dimensional all of the characters are. The writers deserve all the awards!
I haven't properly watched this show yet, but have seen a LOT of scenes and it looks really good. This a series that could easily have failed in season 1 (or the Pilot), or gotten progressively worse over the following seasons with poor critic and audience scores - and let's not forget that the original target audience of the films are now in their 50s (like my Dad) and probably don't even know the show exists. But instead the complete opposite happened! I will make an effort to watch the series very soon, as Karate Kid, and Part 2 and 3, are hugely fond films from my childhood. Thomas Ian Griffith is a fantastic actor, and Terry Silver always scared the shit out of me back then. Seeing him again now is mind-blowing and it's amazing how Thomas can bring the character back to life after literally 3 decades.
All I ever wanted from the KK and CK universe was to see John Kreese find redemption. We spent a large amount of s3 on WHY he is the way he is, and now in season 4 he is finally seeing the light. Next season has him kicking inmate ass
This scene was important because it showed the level of Terry Silver being higher than Johnny. Later when Johnny and Daniel proved to be equals, it also illustrated Terry Silver’s level of being more superior to Daniel. Also, it showed that Kreese, in his unusual way, displayed compassion for Johnny, which angered Terry because, after all, it showcased mercy, which goes against the very motto of Cobra Kai.
@@anweshbhowmick4920 Well, one can also say that Daniel beat Silver after Silver had just taken a beating from Chozen, and was far from being at full strength, and/ or maybe Daniel learned from both Johnny and Chozen the importance of being aggressive during a fight. But unfortunately, I doubt the producers will have a final fight between Johnny and Daniel unless the end the series in the same way that Rocky III ended.
Daniel’s style is more readily suited to Silver. Daniel’s style - when he is channeling his inner miyagi - is defensive and counters. Johnny got a crash course in that style and it’s not surprising it wasn’t enough. Daniel and Johnny are two sides of the same coin. Neither has the complete package at this point, but against silver the defensive version is best suited.
@@richardrobertson1886 also we cant forget this stuff, terry is "co founder" of the style, so every move that johnny has,he had a response to it, yeah his style is eagle fang but EF take "Roots" from cobra kai style
I was hoping they would do this and clearly establish Terry as still being a stronger fighter than Johnny and Daniel. Thankfully they didn’t do so with Kreese. Right now it seems clear that Terry and Chozen are the two strongest on each side and with it seeming that Terry is going further and further into his old way while Chozen is about as disciplined as one can get it could make for a very interesting story with these two
If Johnny can learn things from chozen I think he will. It really wasn’t a fair fight. He got cheap shotted and had so many other things on his mind. If both were at 100% percent I think Johnny wins
I love how in this seen Mr. Silver becomes Terry from Karate kid 3. No more cool and friendly composure, not acting adult and snobby, this is the thrill seeking crazy adrenaline fueled top tier fighter Terry actually is
This is the moment Terry realized his weakness is really Kreese. In general, he is a smarter, more tactical person, but in order to impress Kreese, he goes off the rails in this scene. By the end, he realizes that not only did this not impresse Kreese, but was indeed an unnecessary move, thus at this point he knew he had to get rid of Kreese.
@@theoutsiderjess1869 yes it is go watch the part when Kress was getting arrested and listen to what silver said he said don't worry about Lawrence I will take good care of him to so Johnny is Kress son
I love how Terry uses the quicksilver method by first making sure Johnny can’t see by kicking him in the face, than can’t breathe by hitting him in the neck and then kicking him so he can’t stand.
In a way this was Johnny's own fault. Daniel tried to warn him Silver was dangerous but all Johnny heard was when Daniel competed the next year they put him straight to the finals. He dismissed Silver as just an old man but he learned the hard way he was more than that.
@@Opticify I don't think he necessarily saw him as a son, but as someone similar to him, just like see's Tori. John Kreese for all his flaws wanted to create champions winners, that can survive and thrive by any means necessary. The problem is that Kreese is warped by the trauma in his life.
@@siamsa69 i think we can rule out Kreese being Johnny's father as we saw the scene where young Johnny was hording things his father left behind in that box which insinuates that Johnny has memories of him before he abandon him.
It's crazy how Silver was just living his life and tried his hardest not to rejoin Kreese, but Kreese kept pushing him. And now, Kreese brought out the monster in Silver again, maybe even worse than Karate Kid 3.
The writers of this show did terry silver justice by writing him so well. And of course Thomas played him so well. Him along with the writers made an intimidating, smart, and psychically imposing villain that was a highlight of the show. He just steals every scene he is in. Bravo. 👏
The best thing about this fight is watching Johnny use Miyagi-Do defense to fend off Silver. I didn't really notice it until the second time I watched the episode (even though Silver's line should have clued me in the first time), but see the different styles play out in this scene and the tournament was so awesome. Cobra Kai is brilliant.
I really embrace that shot between 1:10-1:14 just to see Johnny Lawrence and Terry Silver go at each other. Johnny with the miyagi-do defense and Terry with his signature spinning hook kick.
Reese. You clearly don't no much about karate. The more knowledge and experience the deadly your body becomes. How old you are makes no difference. Karate is a way of life.
If you ever find yourself having a hard time putting TIG's talent into words, just remember that he single handedly saved KK3 from being a total waste of time.
The guy playing Terry seriously needs to be a Bond villain at come point. He plays rich, intelligent, physically capable psycho really well.
That is a bond movie I would pay to see!
Exactly 💯 💯
I would have liked to see him as a villain in an episode of the original Walker, Texas Ranger series, and have him fight Walker in the end.
@Miles Goodison-Fearon That's true, Kove, Okumoto and Kanan all appeared as villains on Walker, Texas Ranger, but in separate episodes. Norris shot Kove and beat Okumoto in a fight, whereas Kanan was defeated by James Wlcek (Walker's student, Trent Malloy). (The Sean Kanan episode ended with one of the female guests singing the Walker theme song, very much off pitch.) It's also true that Zabka and Macchio did not appear on Walker. (One or both of them may have had bigger fish to fry at the time.) As for T.I.G., in the 1990s, he apparently started cutting down on acting. (Still, while T.I.G. is a black belt, he was never a world champion, unlike 6-time champion Chuck Norris. But he would have been competitive against Walker while the fight lasted.)
Last time I checked, Bond was shattered to pieces by missile strikes.
as a kid, never in a million years would I have thought I would see Johnny Lawrence going toe to toe with Terry Silver..... This series is simply amazing.
Same here !! Just imagine the matches in Season V when they bring back Chozen ... & potentially mostlikely MIKE BARNES !!?!??! itll be INSANE !
@ sLiM411. Chozen is next, and it will be a different outcome.
Amen!
Chozen would destroy Silver and everyone else currently alive in the series
Never in a million years would I have thought Johnny would be using Miyagi-do haha
"I may not always win but I'll never back out of a fight" Johnny really proved it this season
He would have won withouz the cheapshot at the beginning
Also he kinda Proved it in S3 vs the Mexixans whe he was drunk af
@@hectorbarbossa4403 I’m not sure he would’ve won if the Silver’s cheapshot didn’t happen because Silver is a real good fighter too. But Ik that Silver will have a hard time beating Johnny
Kreese Silver Johnny and Daniel are about evenly matched although i would argue that Daniel has a disadvantage in Strength because by just looking it seems clear that Johnny Silver and Kreese are physically stronger
The 4 have different things going for against them:
For example Kreese and Silvee have a disadvantage from being in their 70s where J&D are only early 50s
Silver has a reach advanatge of around 5-6 Inches over Kreese and Johnny and as much as 8 inches over Daniel
Skill Overall is even with the 4 but
Kreese and Silver have very few defense other than some Blocks and counters
Johnny has good offense but his Defense while better than Silver and Kreese still lacks
Daniel has very good Defense but not much good offense (his offense except for PP is certainly not as good as that of the other 3)
Experience:
Kreese has the most experiemce followed by Silvee and both have at least around 15-20 years more experience than Daniel and Johnny
Now out of the 4 i think Kreese really gets underestimated compared to Silver for example
He had 2 Fights with Johnny current and 2 wirh Myagi that we know of
While Myagi whooped hil 2 Times you cant really hold that against him as anyone except Sato and current Chozen would not even get a single Hit on myagi
The 2 Fights wirh Johnny in the First one he didnt even intend to hurt him because he wanted to gain his trust to work with him and the fight Was still even even though Johnny foughr agressive and then got him in a chokehold after he let him go Kreese punched him once and then they stopped.
The S3 Fight while Kreese got a cheapshot and Johnny had the upper hand for most of the fight before Kreese cheapshotted him i don't think he would even kill him but just Choke him out (as evidenced by s4 we know he cares for Johnny) his fight against Daniel went in his Favour and he had enough energy to Tackle Daniel after fighting Johnny and almost won Till Daniel used the Pressure Points. Another evidence for his Skill could be that Silver obviously fears Kreese and Acts a bit beta around him (not just because of PTSD) but also because he likely knows that Kreese is stronger).
My Overall fighter Ranking would be
1. Chozen (current)
2. Johnny
3. Kreese
4. Daniel
5. Silver
let me change that for u
1. chozen
2. jhonny
3. silver
4.kreese
5.daniel
only valid one bruh silver beat the shit out of jhonny without breaking a sweat the only reasn i put silver third and jhonny in 2nd is bcuz silver is to cocky and gets caught off gaurd and has more experience than johnny but jhonny went it comes to hand to hand combat is better than silver as he knows more defence techneques and silver doesnt
@@hectorbarbossa4403 I can't put Silver last, I put him a head of everyone except chozen and Kreese , Tbh. He is probably the better fighter than Kreese at this point, but like he admitted, that's his weakness. Chozen is the next best thing to Miyagi, Daniel is the weakest
I love how in this scene you can see Kreese's human side come out. Silver was right, Johnny is John's weakness. That's why Silver is far more dangerous than Kreese. He is not hindered by emotional connections, he is a cold and calculated sociopath.
The sad thing is silver was begging to change in the first of the season 4 but Kreme reminded his ptsd and now he awoken the psycho of silver
@TOBIAS WETTERGREEN bozo johnny was destroying kreese in s3 and look what just happened to johnny
More dangerous? No. Both are dangerous but Kreese does have a special survivor/fighter edge NO ONE else there has & in a few days from now we shall All watch him exploit it Big Time on both Silver & rest of Cobra Kai losers & others. Amen!!!
You forgot to add that he is rich af
@@teoariesda5371 money comes & goes. What ultimately matters is HOW & when you use your Money $$$$ & resources/firepower & more so. Eg. Using it smartly for GOOD vs Using it idiotically/cruelly for Evil or God forbid, as in some cases, using it Smartly for EVIL purposes yet then again those few in the latter category historically have almost always ended Up VERY VERY BADLY (in every way imaginable- dictators usually) throughout modern world history (military history and/or political history). All that
aside man, there ARE ways to "deprive" any Rich EVIL man/men of their Ill gotten riches. Peaceful ways & non peaceful ways, whatever works provided the Mission & End result IS truly worthy honorable good & just leading to Victory (our victory) & His imminent assured destruction & Defeat. I could easily write a small book but it's true so true since before Medieval times & more so (globally) over past 180 Years.....History does have a weird way of often repeating itself, oh yes! Amen! Cheers, mate! 😎
I like how both johnny and kreese learned that no mercy has a limit when its someone you care about
Ikr finally I see Kreese on his side intervene and saying "let him go" he said himself that Johnny was like his son and his best student. I hope we'll see in the 6th season how they're bounding finally.
@@PhillDrakeEntertainment It’s impossible if Kreese doesn’t want to be with Johnny at Miyagi Fang. Besides, Johnny would not let him join.
He tried to kill him twice, and kreese didnt know how dangerous silver could be
@@guswaffenss He tried to manipulate Silver but Kreese realizes this whole time that Silver manipulated him. Instant Karma.
@@dani-boy6420 at least at this moment silver was loyalty to Kreese and then he realized Krees had a weakness and it was johnny
I loved it when Terry Silver yelled, “WOO!” I really enjoyed his character a lot this season.
Terry is just having fun while fighting.
Me too.
Cause he's back on cocaine
@@xmgippyxm8258 damn right 😂😂
he relapsed and is back with that lindsey lo-han
What they have done with Silver's character is just amazing, just when you think he has changed you get a glimpse of his true insides.
well, he was changed. Kreese showed up, silver stopped taking his meds, got his ptsd tickeld by Kreese and then turned back in the psycho he was.
That’s the thing Silver did change but he can also change back because Kreese disappointed him and Daniel still hates him(understandably) even though he tried to make amends
I wished Daniel would of gotten a chance to fight terry silver would of been nice to see them both show up. What the fuck happened in the end was crazy. I thought kreese and silver were supposed to be best friends
Silver was the snake that crawled out of that pit in Vietnam.
@@Tc-ev9dd yeah it was hella unexpected
Never in a million years did I think I would ever see Johnny Lawrence meet Terry Silver, let alone fight each other! I’m so happy that we got this show because we get to see the students be able to take on the former sensei’s since they’re older. We couldn’t see it before because they were kids
Exactly, how its suppose to be with classic reboots
not only fight him but using defensive moves
Johnny had that look on his face like "who the hell are you? I know who he is but alright..."
@@thomaadye5620 he[johnny] knows him already in the story, without giving out spoilers.
He won this fight just by a kick lol
Silver just steals the show, in my opinion. The fact he took a 15 year break and can still act like Terry is crazy. I love his character, and the end of the season made me love him more.
Thirty-two years. Lol
Yup, love it. I binged watch it and was loving Terry Silver. He is a complex character and has brought Cobra Kai to a whole new level. This is awesome.
15 years? More like 35 years
Agreed, Silver ate this season up! Very intrigued what he has in store for us next season.
thomasiangriffith instagram went up 10000 in 1 day, curious to see how high it goes.
Can we just appreciate how they kept their signature sounds when they fight?
Johnny has his 'AYEEAA. AYEEE" and Terry's is "ASSAA ASAI"
It's a great detail and it's also very nostalgic. God I love this show
Signature "sounds"? You mean their "kiai"?
ASSAHHHHH
EXACTLY!!
That is called: kiai
AYEEYAUSIIAAHHHAAHHIOUHHGAAALLYH
Best part is when Silver yells “WHOOAA looks like Larusso taught him some defense. Okay pretty boy, LESSS GO”
Thomas Ian Griffith really sells those lines, doesn't he?
What’s truly terrifying about the comment Sensei Silver makes is that it shows he has ZERO fear of Johnny and his karate skills. Johnny is clearly outmatched.
He really slipped into old school Terry Silver there. Love that line too.
I only wish when johnny and daniel were training each other that we got to see the miyagi realisation with johhny doing it. The old "show me wax on" then deflecting a 15 hit combo lol would have been sick to see johnny do it.
That's when you knew Johnny was facing the full force of KK3 Silver. He got some of what Daniel did in 85.
After all these years and Terry Silver still has not lost a step in fighting this is epic
He’s still a beast. Clearly the biggest threat at the moment.
@@nissy9220 isn’t Kreese the biggest threat too?
@@RogueWarrior981 no. Johnny and Daniel can already take kreese.
Not until he faced Chozen. That’s the hardest fight of Terry’s life.
@@RogueWarrior981 terry silver is an emotionless psychopath that has no sympathy for other people he is dangerous
I loved Terry's character, how he was trying to stay chilled in his home because he knew himself better. Kreese encourages him to come back and wakes up the real maniac, the karate psycho. This series is just so much fun
Amazing acting and writing
Shut up
Like johnny when he brought kreece back into the fold. Kreece resurrected a demon and it came back to fight him. Silver was trying to keep his demon caged.
Just like how Kreese managed to turn Johnny's own students against him, Terry will probably turn the rest of Cobra Kai (except for Tory) against Kreese.
You ain’t lying my friend! I love Martial Arts in general, loved The Karate Kid movie series, and Cobra Kai is like crack. Damn, the writing is so good and the episodes are set up to end like cliff hangers so you just want to see more 🔥 🐍 🥋 📺
From what I recall, Silver is among the few actors of the franchise who actually did know and practice martial arts.
Billy Zabka actually knows tang so do
He learned it after filming that first movie but ya.
The actors who played Bobby and Vidal in the first movie were legit martial artist before doing the movie. And Sean Kanan (Barnes in KK3) was a martial artist too.
I think Thomas was a black belt in taekwando before karate kid 3 was out
@@JoseMartinez-ox3pl tae kwon do, kenpo karate, kickboxing, fencing, wrestling, and stage combat.
0:14 "A man can't see, he can't fight.”
0:58 “A man can't breathe, he can't fight"
1:00 "A man can't stand, he can't fight"
Wow good job
Exactly but the thing is Johnny could fight even when on the ground
Yeah But Johnny could still see and he could still breathe and he could still stand
At the last one
Donnie yen be like: hold my beer
Words my uncle said to me and he was a Sensei.
"pretty boy" and "danny boy", man terry silver comes up with anything.
silver already gave "johnny boy" to kreese.
next thing y'know, he's gonna say to chozen "chozey boy" and mike "mikey boy"
@@DarkestDesire9054nah he‘s in jail . That’s the end of him
"Pretty boy" didn't come from him. Remember the homeless woman.
Terry Silvers voice is distorted as hell
Terry smiling right before the roundhouse kick is what I liked. He's enjoying the fight.
I doubt he'd be smiling so much if it was Chozen he was fighting.
@@cybernautadventurer dont talk too fast haha
@@cybernautadventurer True. Silver's long limbs could make big targets for Chozen's Miyagi-Do pressure point technique. It could be a Daniel vs Kreese redux.
@@cybernautadventurer yeah Chozen would destroy Silver
@@cybernautadventurer chozen gon kick his ass lmao i doubt daniel stands a chance against silver even with his miyagi points, only chozen could beat him
“You wanna see some more?” is such a brilliant callback to the third film, where Kreese responded with “I wanna see A LOT MORE”, the fact that this time he responds with “Let him go” shows that his character has fundamentally changed.
Edit: A lot of people have responded with the view that Kreese hasn’t changed, he just cares about Johnny and not Daniel. Given that, at the start of Karate Kid 2, Kreese was choking Johnny out for losing the tournament I still think that this attempt at mercy shows a change in his character.
i thought i was the only one who noticed
I never realized until now you just pointed it out. Brilliant callback you noticed 👍
He carries a lot of guilt for what he did to Johnny all these times over the years.
I wana see a lot more
Do the Crane, Danny Boy!
I’m still amazed how sympathetic and merciful Kreese got this season, He even flash-backed to when he almost choked Johnny to death and didn’t want history to repeat itself
Im wondering if Kreese is his dad given the flashback with Johnny and his Mum.
@@B-Rad_99 Facts, as much of a sick bastard Kreese was, to say he never cared about nor appreciated Johnny is foolish
Its obvious
Even Silver found out Kreese's weakness IS Johnny.
The fact that he remembered what broke his relationship with Jhonny correctly and did the right thing to Tory tell a lot.
Kreese in the end, got his own reason about why he act like this, but when he care, HE CARE.
Got broken in the military, keep repeating the same speech. He is simply living in the past.
Will never accept defeat, but can learn and know when he's wrong.
After been betrayed by Silver, he will HAVE to learn the error of his way.
THAT'S what I'm looking for, for him, in season 5 and I would like him to learn from..... Chozen!
That just shows that Kreese was never a bad man and the man he was before in back in the 60s is still in there,people hating and judging him have no idea what men like him have been through because war isn't something you can just get over or shake off no matter how much time passes and after all the things those American Vietnam veterans went through and how the people back at home treated them was just disgusting and despicable that was a bad time for everyone no matter how much the world moves on it's not something you get over overnight,no soldier should have to go home to that it's bad enough they had to go through all that trauma in the war,do they really have to come home to that crap? Yeah vietnam was a pointless war and I sure wouldn't have went because it was a money greedy war and the good men that believed they were fighting for freedom just wanted to defend they're country and they still deserved their heroes welcome,I respect all soldiers that fought in Vietnam it's not they're faults the war happened they were just doing they're job,all that protesting and hating should've been for the US government not the troops so it's no wonder Kreese lost his way I can't blame him,no one will ever understand what soldiers go through so it's easier to judge them because they don't have the balls to go serve their country themselves I'm joining the military soon this year and I can fully relate too Kreese in the 60s,a young honourable man wanting to be a hero and serve his country Kreese will defiantly redeem himself in season 5
1:13 That "Woo Hoo" that Terry Silver does sounds so cool!😂
Love how the actor playing Silver isn’t phoning in, hot only does he nail the character but you can tell that he’s happy being there and wants to be there.
He better want to be there. This reboot did a lot for a lot of people.
Yeah, they all wanna be there, which is really cool to see.
Tbf, even for KK3 the dude wasn't phoning it in.
@@hkr0065 that was his first role!
@@stevelibby6852 This series is amazing! He’s proud of the work they’ve achieved this far. It’s number 1 and shot in the rankings over on Netflix. To think the first 2 seasons actually started on UA-cam red.
@@adrianaavila8853 I watched first couple seasons with GF, it was very clever but I had enough. I am all for suspension of disbelief for the sake of entertainment, but the plot armor a tad heavy on this one ;) It's a great show and the actors on it seem geniunely nice.
I am 42 years old.
When I was seven years old I remember playing with karate kid action figures and coming up with dreams and scenarios on how things would go past the movies.
What they are doing with the show goes above and beyond what I could have dreamed of when I was a child.
HOLY SH*t
If somebody told me when I was seven years old that something like this would come out when I was 40
I would’ve lost my damn mind
It's crazy really is
you nailed it !
I hear you man and I'm 26 years old I grew up loving the karate kid movies and so this was huge fan service bringing back all these guys and the fact that they all look so good while playing their roles is just insane to me. As if they've been preparing to do this for a long time.
@@klaycormac hahahaj wff are you talking about?silver is 59 and looks like 80
@@diegoponce7319 you're blind then my guy wtf are you talking about?
“Come on little man, let’s see how good you really are”
“Okay pretty boy, let’s go! let’s see what you learned”
He was outstanding this season
I didn't hear him say "come on little man"
I've watched this scene many times though and it's amazing!
@@iceeaglex Terry said that phrase in Karate Kid 3 when fighting Mr. Miyagi.
@@iceeaglex he said that to Mr Miyagi in KK3, I was making a comparison!
@@petermaccallum2539 Oh shit yeah! Now I remember. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
@@petermaccallum2539 and he got his ass kicked by a little man lol
1:11 Bro silver’s hook kick is killer and incredibly smooth. I did martial arts for a bit and could never get a kick that smooth
Thomas Ian Griffith is incredible
It’s taekwondo high kick flexibility
@@manuellim6284yep
@@rideon77 Thomas Ian Griffin was awesome in this series
@@manuellim6284 yeah man, I could never do the complex and high kicks in Taekwondo, not even back in high school when I was actively studying it. To me a kick is a strike to the torso lol. And I would mainly do it in sparring so I could get closer and use hands. 🙂
One of these days I want to go back to regularly studying martial arts but probably not TKD. Possibly Wing Chun, Choy Li Fut or Karate. Need something that emphasizes hands a little more. Good that I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, where we some really old studios run by Asian-American families. There's a Choy Li Fut kwoon, family owned, that apparently has a long list of tournament trophies, that would probably be a good place to go.
I would go Jeet Kune Do, since Dan Innosanto said that Bruce Lee actually didn't kick much in real life (outside of movies), but need more grounding in traditional first. 🙂
Terry has easily become my most favorite character…how maniacal he is
Dude, the MVP of season 4 hands down. Bringing him back made the show much more greater than it already is. I pray they keep him until the series finale.
Ikt!! We needed a real villain
Yea Silver is my favourite idc how much of a psycho he is, best villain in the Cobra Kai era
@@anudarib Ikr just when I thought Krease was crazy
HOJE EU ESTOU FELIZ PORQUE A PESSOA QUE ME LÊ É ABENÇOADA POR DEUS E VAI ME ABENÇOAR VINDO AQUI ME CONHECER !!! ❤😇🇧🇷🥺🔥
I love how Terry is enjoying this fight and having fun.
He is the definition of COBRA KAI, NO MERCY !!!
The actor is pretty damn spry still
@@BlakPanthaa mhm
@@Weltallgaia what do you mean by “spry”
@@Weltallgaia He's actually 4 months younger than Ralph Macchio.
It’s still incredible how Miyagi as an old man beat a young Terry Silver AND Kreese at the same time
That’s why Mr. Miyagi will always b the GOAT
Not to mention at his dwarf size. Reality would be Mr. Miyagi would be one of those Tai Chi masters who only could "defeat" his pupils.
As we saw with Chozen, there’s a lot more to Miyagi Do’s teachings than we know and Mr. Miyagi knew all of it.
@@thatkamigirl2100 Yep and he didn’t even have to use it to beat everyone he faced in the movies
Lol. Miyagi is Yoda Without a Sabre.
When Silver was teaching the students about making their opponent think what you want them to think, he did it here by planting it in Johnny's head by saying "let's see what you learned" regarding defense from Larusso. He put Johnny in punch-defense mode so bad he got locked in & Silver swung himself into kick position & caved in Johnny's chest. Well done writers!
Johnny was good at defending, as Silver waited for the offense. Once Johnny tried to strike, that is when Silver saw the opening and counter struck. I guess Silver knew when to look when the defense stopped. I agree the writers did do great.
Wish we had more Karte Kid or Cobra Kai collaborations with Street Fighter or Tekken!
I've noticed that everytime Terry fights, he's always smiling even back then in karate 3 🤣
Probably because this time, he isn't fighting Mr. Miyagi. 😂
@@NYRyder1983 I promise he wont be smiling when he fights chozen
@Jago Nexus Chozen is going to tune him up
@@hidan407 why does everyone thing Chozen is so tough?
@@Foxentails From my viewpoint its because he lived with traditional karate literally for his entire life. While everyone else could just start back up in karate and the weird belt system that makes the teens black belys in a few months, Chozen did it the proper way. He even instructed the military when he was younger. Yes he lost to daniel but tbh everyone feels like daniel shouldnt ever been able to beat chozen when they eas younger.
Terry Silver is the best character of Karate Kid movies, and Thomas Ian Griffith is a true great martial artist.
This character is gold for entertaining.
And a skillful pianist as well.
I have been a fan of the show but Thomas absolutely crushes it. Best character and actor of the entire series by far.
thomas is a legend
@@truewalls8292 he’s great and he was the best in this season, but let’s not pretend William zabka isn’t the best part of this show by a mile. He steals every scene he’s in
I Really Enjoyed How Terry And Kreese Weren't Ever On The Same Page In This Season... I Expected Them To Act As The Closest Friends But This Added More Depth And Conflict To This Season's Plot... I Love This Show Much..
But now Terry is the Bad one and Krees is the good one 👍🏿?? Terry didn't want this but Krees pulled him in
I Really Enjoyed How Every Word You Said Starts With A Capital Letter.
Haha, Terry gave Kreese the anal treatment. He was so shocked at the end- my friend has done me dirty, after all I've done for him. I wonder if they had gay sex, when they were in the army!
Ikr, Terry wanted more power over Kreese.
Interestingly And Surprisingly Your Comment And Each Word Is Starting With Capital Letters
Johnny and Terry Silver fighting and Johnny using miyagi do techniques are two things I didn't expect but was still awesome to see even though Johnny lost. This show never ceases to amaze me :)
The Fighting the Neon Lights
They Really Took things to the Next Level
Shit was so Badass 🔵🔴
I like how Johnny’s still being called “pretty boy” even though he’s over 50 years old.
Absolutely thx to Johnny i have hope too stay young when am 50 years old
Pretty 60 year old
@@bluewhele7115 Look at Daniel, 60 years old and still called boy by Silver lol..
Well, based on the movie, Johnny is 55 years, Daniel is 52, and Terry could be 65, Kreese, something about 73 years.
@@raccongamefit8831 Based on the real life Kreese 75 years, Daniel 60 years, Silver 59 years and Johnny is 56 years old.
Crazy..
Everything about that "let's goooo" was just sublime. TIG and the writers were just brilliant making us wait for crazy Terry to earn this moment to come out.
The writers also didn’t take the easy way out by giving Terry Silver the same old lines I from Karate Kid 3. Instead, they gave him new, epic lines.
Reminded me of Razor Ramon lol
Did Thomas Ian Griffith use a stunt double for this scene
@@kodesh1674 I would say no. Thomas Ian Griffith said in an interview that he watched his stunt double execute a kick and immediately say to himself, “I am faster than that!” So, I think he decided to do his own stunts, at least for this scene.
I love how in this moment Kreese’s humanity started to return after seeing what Silver was truly capable of
He began to see the greater evil in Terry Silver, and he realized he was way in over his head. He turned a decent man into a monster.
Seems really out of left field considering he's the one who roped Silver back in to begin with.
@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked Excellent point
@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked That's because even back in Karate Kid 3, Silver was more insidious than Kreese was.
@@HolyknightVader999 and its gonna get waaaay worse from here. he might even turn on Kreese and form his own dojo.
I love how the writers have retained his flamboyant fighting style of using high kicks and elaborate moves rather than going for a quick knocking out of the fight attack
What I found immediately telling about this scene was how concerned Kreese was right away. Kreese knew that Johnny stood no chance against Silver. Just like Daniel tried to warn him. “You can’t strike first with this guy!”
Everyone is forgetting the key thing that happened. Johnny was nearly knocked unconscious before the fight began. This is why he lost. He didn’t stand a chance after that. He was completely fucked up
@@crazytrain111 exactly, i think johnny beats silver in a fair fight
@@crazytrain111 it’s a street fight that Johnny himself picked. Johnnys taken hits before and also blindsided Terry.
I love Johnny, but Terry is just better. At least for now.
@@LetsGetitBoah that makes no sense. They blindsided him with a head kick, we see Johnny on the ground barely able to function. Why do you think they wrote it that way? It’s done that way for a reason. You injure the good guy so the bad guy can win without actually being better than the good guy. If they wanted to show silver was just the superior fighter they would have done it, but instead they did it this way… because this is who silver is, preying on weakness. He doesn’t have to be the better fight because he will find or create a weakness and exploit it. He damn near kicked johnnies head off his shoulders right when he walked in the door. Johnny had no shot after that.
And Johnny didn’t blindside him with a head kick. Head kicks are the most dangerous, devastating strikes in fighting. Johnny tagged him a few times with some decent shots but Silver had already done all the damage he needed to do. Johnny ate a head kick and a strike to his throat and still went toe to toe with him.
@@dillon_1944 not just a “fair” fight because silver will always fight dirty. Just as long as Johnny isn’t injured before the fight starts I think Johnny wins. Because in a fair fight silver will still throw neck strikes and other dirty shit but I think Johnny can overcome that stuff. But what he can’t overcome is a clean head kick before the fight begins.
Notice at 0:58 he hits Johnny's throat. "A man can't breathe, he can't fight."
Utitlizing the quicksilver technique....
Haha good
Silver loves his lead leg sidekicks to the stomach because the fighter things he is going up top by his knee line but switches and hits the stomach knocking Johnny off balance. Johnny also told Miguel to only use the throat hit for serious situations only.
And in the beginning, Silver blind sided Johnny, a man can't see, can't fight
Yup great technique
"Wanna see some more?" Same sentence, same person, same dojo, just some years later. Yes Terry, we wanna see a lot more. Bring him back!
Except here Kreese is starting to see what he has brought back in Terry!
@@Fusionbomb-nd4hi Yeah, I was waiting for the "I wanna see a lot more" line that never came. I think the writers were trying to show us that Kreese was starting to change a little. Either that or they were showing us how he feels completely differently about Johnny getting beat up as opposed to Danny Boy.
@@nottelling4828 yeah, Kreese did always have a soft spot for Johnny.
One of the best fights in the whole series… and shows the level of skills Silver has. We didn’t see enough in Karate Kid 3. It wouldn’t be a Silver kick without some ASAAAH!!
Well he tried it with Miaygi- you could see him try to do his roundhouse kick, but Miaygi is Super Yoda level, outside this Universe, it would take an Alien from outer space to defeat him!
Yeah, also moving his hands alot.
This is one of the best fights in the series? I guess I don't have much to look forward to. I just started watching it and if these horrible stage fights that don't even look like good karate, much less actual fighting, are the best the series has, I'm in for disappointment.
This was embarrassing to anyone who actually knows how to fight in any discipline that actually does combat.
@@Gumblethebear Cool Story bro.
@@Gumblethebear
The best thing you could do is stop watching if you’re not into it. I’m not trying to be a dick. It’s just the truth.
I'm glad Terry Silver came back. His character makes the show that much more exciting. He still looks good for his age to.
He’s actually younger than the actor that plays Daniel
I guess somebody needs glasses
@@Pinkielover huh?
@@Pinkielover chill pinkie love
I think they aged him. I noticed the crows feet makeup. I know in real life he's like same age as Ralph Macchio or close to it, so I think they've aged him a bit to look more like Krease's age.
I wanna see Chozen fight Terry Silver so badly in Season 5
Same
Chozen would definitely win that one
It would be a good fight but chozen destroys him and there’s no debate.
I think it would be a good fight, but Chozen would win. Hell Chozen would probably kill Silver.
I can definately see, Terry Silver calling Chozen a slope, and while fighting him he taunts him with his kiai like he did with Mr. Miyagi
Kreese definitely has goodness in him, the look on his face when Johnny was getting beaten said it all, the way he spoke about seeing Johnny with a black eye to Terry, the amount of times he tried to give Johnny another chance at returning to Cobra Kai and the way he defended Tory against the landlord and against Amanda, after being betrayed by Terry, he might just look in the mirror and start changing into a better person. I’m not saying he’s some saint he’s still an antagonist but maybe he’ll evolve into an antihero of some kind
I agreed with you Kreese becoming an antihero. But it’ll definitely take so much time to let Johnny n Daniel to forgive him. But I can imagine in the last 2 episodes of season 5 they can definitely forgive him
I like how the show has shown that John Kreese isn't a full on 100% evil villian but rather a complicated, flawed, and conflicted character who has (mostly) valid reasons for being the way he is.
Kresse wow He is showing that ,he means best
Just looking-at him giving Tory encouragement words,
U just realized he a decent dude ? Lol
Like there’s a reason grown men look up to this guy
Caring about someone and having goodness aren't the same thing. Even evil people have someone that they care about on some level
Thomas Griffin still looks the part even after all these years….respect! 💪🏻
Griffith
Love Terry's choreography it really feels like he was designed to be using his extended reach and height to his advantage
The guy who plays him is a black belt in Taekwondo and Kenpo Karate so it's not surprising at all that his choreography is good.
yeah you can tell Terry's actor has been a lifelong martial artist in his movement alone and I'm pretty sure the guy who plays Johnny kept up on Tang Soo Do after Karate Kid
@@thepants1450 think i remember seeing somewhere that william zabka (guy who plays johnny) is a second degree greenbelt which apparently is about midway to black belt
Yup
lol, Thomas Ian Griffith is a trained martial artist
The fact that Silver is smiling while Johnny is blocking his hits is just straight up creepy
Because he's doing what he taught his students: if you opponent is reactive, you control what they do. Terry threw punches to set Johnny up for the finishing kick.
Silver forced Johnny to go defense when his whole motto up to that point was to STRIKE FIRST. Credit Miyago-do for allowing Johnny to stand up to Silver for a while longer.
i used to love beyblade sick channel beo
Silver mental ability is superior he is controlling the fight. Johnny must calm himself and outthink Silver movements to defeat him.
He was smiling when he fought Miyagi too.
“Okay pretty boy, Let’s goooo”
That line is just unreal
when Terry says "Asa"😂😂
Now the real pain begins Johnnyboy. You see the trial I think he peed in his pants
Phenomenal acting
The villains fighting each other! The bully 1st movie vs villain 3rd movie! What a knockout!!
Silver’s fighting style is a combination of brutal aggression and lethal precision.
Defense too
And deception
I love how human and complex they made Silver this season. I feel like there’s a part of him that’s jealous of Kreese’s sentimentality towards Johnny and resents Johnny for it. You can see the pain and absolute rage on his face.
Hmm. I think it's not resentment (but it could be), rather I think it's disgust about Kreese's hypocrisy. No mercy, no exceptions, except with Johnny Lawrence. Kreese showed weakness and Silver followed in his superior's footsteps, by overthrowing his Captain and becoming the new Captain.
@@josephsloop8865 Yeah I think it’s a bit of both.
@@josephsloop8865 When Dimitri said Robby was full Sith, he wasn't that far off, some things Cobra Kai do like using their anger, betraying each other etc is very Sithy, except they use Karate instead of the force
@@josephsloop8865 Silver's last words to Kreese "Don't worry about Lawrence. I'll take care of him too" was a pretty petty dig. Also he was pissed that it was never really about bringing back the glory days, it always about Johnny. There's def some jealousy there. Mixed with what you said, the hypocrisy.
Kreese seems to have it all - wealth, power, flashy cars, mansion. But there is ONE thing he does not have and cannot buy -- Love. Kreese has love. Love for Johnny and for Cobra Kai and his students. Terry is mad jealous at that.
You can't deny that Daniel is the brains and Johnny is the ruthlessness between the two. But I would have to agree with what Daniel said to Johnny about Silver, "you cannot strike first with this guy".... It's unfortunate that Johnny had to learn the hard way.
Fr like I kno it’s all movies and a show but Terry Silver honestly scares me. And thinking about how sadistic and twisted he really is when u get deep into it makes u terrified of him. And honestly I love it lol
@@skullfacegaro2716 BRO!!!! MANNNNN.... Let me tell you are not the only one!!! Terry silver scares a lot of us!!!! My friend, I can't figure out to save my life how he could be stopped!!!! Did you see how sadistic even in the fight between him and Johnny that he was?! That smile and that laugh, and when he hollared WOOOO!!! Not to mention backstabbing the man who has supposedly saved his life in Vietnam and he pledged eternal allegiance and loyalty! And with his money and evil ways and how conniving he is..... YOU AIN'T DID NOTHING BUT STARTED A CONVERSATION NOW 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@drdfilm he always laughs even when Myagi fucked him up
@@hectorbarbossa4403 you ain't lying!!!
what I don't understand is Terry Silver is supposed to be an old man how could he beat Johnny who's much younger
1:17 I love how pumped he is
Part of me feels sad & bad for Silver when he says “I thought this is what you wanted” to Kreese. Kreese had just previously treated him poorly when discussing their capture back in Vietnam & making silvers ptsd kick in which was very low of kreese to do. Silver in my opinion was a true friend to Kreese & kreese took advantage of that. Now Kreese has awaken Silvers inner beast & he’s paying the price for it. Something to be learned here & that’s that no matter what side you’re on, there’s something very valuable & fragile about loyalty. Takes years to build and not much to break, so let that sink in.
A good friend would nevee betray his friend like Silver did to Kreese even if Kreese should not have reminded him of Vietnam
On top of that Kreese just walked out of Silver's life without explanation so I think Silver harbored some resentment of him.
@@hectorbarbossa4403 A good friend wouldn't use trauma and gaslight to manipulate his friend into beimg his lapdog🤨
@@mahad813 yeah come on are you going to excuse Silvers Actions just based on Trauma
Wasnt right from Kreese to do that but Silver is a sick maniac and Psychopath, Kreese is just on the wrong path
@@hectorbarbossa4403 Nah. Kreese is just as bad as Silver if not worse. Kreese deserves to be in jail but not for Stingray but for choking a young Johnny Lawrence, punching Demitri, enabling his students to be thugs and terrorize throughout the Valley
Man this dude Griffith is AWESOME. He came back and picked up on Silvers character like he never left. Amazing.
Like Daniel said, "you cannot strike first with this guy". Johnny fell into the trap.
Yes indeed. Too dangerous
Yeah I was like daniel warned your ass but u didn't listened.
Wasn't he using Miyagi do on him? what you mean?
@@GThelljumper091 Yeah but he’s still getting used to it. Johnny better at mostly offense strikes
@@blackblur143plays7 point being is that in multiple sequences, Johnny didn't actually strike first
I never get tired of cobra kai. Such a great series
okay pretty boy. LETS GOahh
@@stoelgeen203I gotta feeling in season 6 Terry Silver will find a way out of jail and Daniel, Chozen Johnny Lawrence, Kreese and Mike Barnes will find out and it'll be a Mike Barnes vs Silver !
The fanservice, the extreme cases of plot coincidences, I don't care, I love everything about this series. Terry is too damn cool.
This might have been the best fight in the series. Not technically, but just epic after so many years and Terry is a terrifying character to face.
It was quite short fight but yes see your point I think that punch to the throat took it out of Johnny .
@Oscar Rodriguez exactly. Who would had thought it. Back in 1989 when I watched kk3 as a kid in cinema !!
@Oscar Rodriguez It's so funny you say that because, while the logical progression for most would be for Daniel and Terry to finally go at it after Karate Kid 3, I can't lie I anticipated and enjoyed far more the fight between Johnny and Silver. Like you say, it's just so out there and yet it fits absolutely perfect. Plus with it being Johnny's show (it's got a massive main cast, but let's be honest, it's still Johnny as the absolute de-facto protagonist), it was nice to see him take the reins against Terry.
@@donnn-ow4rj shorter fights like these are better than the long-ass fights like the school fight. More realistic and better choreography
@@joseluis5055 true
Terry’s reverse side kick hits Johnny hard…knocks him back about 4 to 5ft. Shows how powerful of a fighter Terry is..Thomas still has it after all these years. When Kreese says at the beginning that “karate isn’t a phase..it’s a way of life. You can leave it for awhile, but it never really leaves you.” That’s an incredibly accurate statement.
Just like bodybuilding 💯
I've done martial arts most of my life. That statement is 100% accurate. Anytime I've had to take a break whether it was school, covid, injury, etc. I got back into it real quick and most of the muscle memory is as fresh as when I was still learning and practicing daily
@@WailfulSeeker82 same for me…I started teaching a few teens that were getting bullied at school and every move, block, punch, stance, kick, grabs etc all still there like it never left.
He got distracted
He’s just about 20 times better than Johnny
I SO love how Thomas Ian nails the role of Terry Silver....even all these years later!!
he is so goooood thomas ian griffith is the best
Johnny using Miyagi Do defense is a part of him redeeming himself even further. Shows he can be a Miyagi Do type after all and I believe he will be.
Ikr when i saw this i was so happy he used miyagi techniques
@@UA-camUserNineEleven So am I. However, I don't think the new dojo name should be Miyagi Fang. If they can get Sean Kanan to appear on the show for the rest of it's run, Mike Barnes should rename it Agoura Do, after the furniture store. After all, what is burned down should be rebuilt into something better, right? Thank you for reading.
Nah wtf he isn’t because if he did he would have learned to use mr miyagis greatest defense being no be there
@C. P.'s Corner Miyagi Agoura Fang
Johnny should’ve used eagle fang method “ A man can’t breathe he can’t fight” using double punch right through Terrys solar plexus
The way Thomas Ian Griffith plays terry silver is so on point. The way he say “okay pretty boy, let’s go” with so much intensity is perfect. As well as the way he’s smiling as Johnny is blocking his punches.
He was playing with him cuz he knows he’s gonna use Miyagi Do
Terry is just the boss. My favorite character in the whole series and movie trilogy
Naw terry is that secert boss in video games where fighting them takes alot of skills and upgrades
@@ricosc3210 Ong He Is DIFFERENT
Not when he got his ass kicked by Mr Miyagi
@@raman6116 true but looks like without miyagi nobody stands a chance against sliver
@@ricosc3210 Ong Well Cept Chozen He Laid A Kick On Miyagi I Think he's the first to ever get that close to him
That "let's go!" from Silver was priceless. 😂😂 He's even more of an over-the-top villain than he was in KK3, and it is glorious.
1:18
“Ok pretty boy, LESS GOO”
- Terry Silver
His "WOOHOO!!!" before that kinda remided me of his "Waah!" taunts to Miyagi in KK3
@@shadowfighter3100 Johnny was like, "I ain't pretty no more."
Silver acts like Ric Flair. I guess Chozen will be Scott Steiner.
The goat
The way he barley misses Johnny’s face with his signature spinning hook kick was pretty damn scary.
I never thought I would see Terry Silver back but seeing him in season 4 was awesome! He’s almost like a Bond villain.
He is unhinged in this scene and it's awesome.
I like how Terry still constantly yells "ASA!!!" when's he's fighting lol. Always cracked me up in KK3
I thought it was pretty cool especially Bc I don’t remember his ever saying that
Terry was absolutely hilarious in Karate Kid 3, couldn't take him seriously as a villain at all and I loved it. He was just as good in Cobra Kai although I could take him seriously this time.
The best example is when he's teaching Daniel to destroy the wooden dummy lol. When I heard it in Cobra Kai it just instantly made me crack up lol. Apparently that's his war cry
when he kicks johnny, I hear "vanessa" 1:33
@@Ghost-vd5kw he did that when he broke the wood on pipes in the dojo after Daniel said it was a little much.
I love how Terry Sliver always keeps them at the distance, at the end of his kicks, if they step in he moves back, or he circles like a cobra setting up his opponent in to a trap to get blasted. Brilliant choreography. 👏
I love subtle details in this show like that. Since he is a tall guy you can see him keeping Johnny at a distance and using it to his advantage.
It's a good strategy for someone with reach. You can hit them. They can't hit you.
FOOTSIES
I love how Johnny said to Daniel earlier when learning Miyagi do that he doesn’t see how he’ll use it in a real fight, but here is is using it
Like what Robby said about the circle technique in S2 but used it at the mall
Well that's one of the most special characteristics from karate kid, use what they have learned even if it looks useless at beginning.
@@elladan23 tbh this stuff would kinda/kinda not work
I liked how the writers slowly developed the way Silver slid back into his old ways. It was not unlike the way the Kreese character slowly manipulated control of the fictional organization away from the pseudo protagonist Mr. Lawrence. I love the foreshadowing used by the writers to set up the twist at the end. The story, as improbable as it may be, is well constructed and entertaining. This is a well written show. The character's leap off the screen. You can be the greatest actor in the world, but without good material your work will stink. I continue to be amazed at the quality of the actors in this series also. They must believe in this project. I also like the foundation the writers are developing for the future of this show. Can't wait for the next installment.
Kreese, the king of manipulation was out-manipulated by Silver! Very shaky ground for Silver though.... It all rests on Stingray not flipping on him. I'll bet Kreese is going to really regret that he was such a dick to Stingray when Stingray tried to come back... lol
"pseudo protagonist Mr. Lawrence."
That's absolute nonsense. Johnny is undoubtedly the protagonist of this series. There is no ambiguity about that.
@Justin Gary Stop drinking bleach.
exactly
the writers slowly developed the way Silver slid back into his old ways
if you want to great actors with a terrible script look no further than stars wars episode 1 the phantom fiddler
Terry felt so alive in this scene! The woo moment was like he's all young again taking over the world!🔥
It's a shame Thomas Ian Griffith really didn't pursue acting. The dude saved KK3. He played a good villain in Kull the Conqueror about 7 years later too. And then pursued life off camera. SO HAPPY he came back for this show but man, the guy played this role to perfection.
Watch Excessive Force and Ulterior Motives. He was great in those.
Agreed. If there's ever another Joker movie, Griffith needs to play that role. Dude is so underrated.
He's pretty successful as a writer
Don't forget he played Valik in John Carpenter's vampires that was my shit.
Didn't really pursue acting? He's been doing it since 1986. That's longer than most of the people who appeared in the KK franchise. He took breaks here and there to work behind the scenes and be with his family.
I love how Silver was just saying “WHOO!” and smiling. He was loving every bit of this fight and having the time of his life XD
It's so cool to see Terry integrating his Quick Silver methods into his fighting style. You never saw much of that in KK3.
In this scene, we finally see another side to Kreese. It's amazing how three dimensional all of the characters are. The writers deserve all the awards!
I haven't properly watched this show yet, but have seen a LOT of scenes and it looks really good. This a series that could easily have failed in season 1 (or the Pilot), or gotten progressively worse over the following seasons with poor critic and audience scores - and let's not forget that the original target audience of the films are now in their 50s (like my Dad) and probably don't even know the show exists.
But instead the complete opposite happened! I will make an effort to watch the series very soon, as Karate Kid, and Part 2 and 3, are hugely fond films from my childhood. Thomas Ian Griffith is a fantastic actor, and Terry Silver always scared the shit out of me back then. Seeing him again now is mind-blowing and it's amazing how Thomas can bring the character back to life after literally 3 decades.
+DD I actually don't like the idea of Kreese redeemed.
@Nang Lei Thank you!
All I ever wanted from the KK and CK universe was to see John Kreese find redemption. We spent a large amount of s3 on WHY he is the way he is, and now in season 4 he is finally seeing the light. Next season has him kicking inmate ass
Thomas Ian Griffith was SO Terry-esque here. I absolutely loved it! I can’t wait to see more of wild and crazy Terry in the next season.
I’m guessing cocaine is back on his menu
This scene was important because it showed the level of Terry Silver being higher than Johnny. Later when Johnny and Daniel proved to be equals, it also illustrated Terry Silver’s level of being more superior to Daniel. Also, it showed that Kreese, in his unusual way, displayed compassion for Johnny, which angered Terry because, after all, it showcased mercy, which goes against the very motto of Cobra Kai.
I think Terry realise how much Kreese appreciate more Johnny than him.
Daniel also beat Terry silver , it can also show how he(Danny)is more powerful than Johnny . The interpretations are subjective
@@anweshbhowmick4920 Well, one can also say that Daniel beat Silver after Silver had just taken a beating from Chozen, and was far from being at full strength, and/ or maybe Daniel learned from both Johnny and Chozen the importance of being aggressive during a fight. But unfortunately, I doubt the producers will have a final fight between Johnny and Daniel unless the end the series in the same way that Rocky III ended.
Daniel’s style is more readily suited to Silver. Daniel’s style - when he is channeling his inner miyagi - is defensive and counters. Johnny got a crash course in that style and it’s not surprising it wasn’t enough. Daniel and Johnny are two sides of the same coin. Neither has the complete package at this point, but against silver the defensive version is best suited.
@@richardrobertson1886 also we cant forget this stuff, terry is "co founder" of the style, so every move that johnny has,he had a response to it, yeah his style is eagle fang but EF take "Roots" from cobra kai style
I can’t wait for Season 5 Season 4 was a blast
Ah yes, we meet again, and yes, it was great
My only issue is how short the episodes are
Creators have said season 5 is the best season that’s gonna be out
Season 5 is most likely gonna be the last season, gonna be an emotional one for sure.
@@H.K.5 not really they said there’s plans for a 6th season
I was hoping they would do this and clearly establish Terry as still being a stronger fighter than Johnny and Daniel. Thankfully they didn’t do so with Kreese. Right now it seems clear that Terry and Chozen are the two strongest on each side and with it seeming that Terry is going further and further into his old way while Chozen is about as disciplined as one can get it could make for a very interesting story with these two
If Johnny can learn things from chozen I think he will. It really wasn’t a fair fight. He got cheap shotted and had so many other things on his mind. If both were at 100% percent I think Johnny wins
Seems like they are seeting up an Unstoppable force meets The Immovable Object kind of thing with Chozen and Silver.
@@Jamesamong007 nah it’s finna be with Barnes and Chozen
Chozen will destroy Silver
Terry vs Chozen will be a sick fight! That will probably be the final fight of the entire series
I love how in this seen Mr. Silver becomes Terry from Karate kid 3. No more cool and friendly composure, not acting adult and snobby, this is the thrill seeking crazy adrenaline fueled top tier fighter Terry actually is
FACT
I don't know why but I absolutely love the sound played when Johnny displays his newly developed defense.
This is the moment Terry realized his weakness is really Kreese. In general, he is a smarter, more tactical person, but in order to impress Kreese, he goes off the rails in this scene. By the end, he realizes that not only did this not impresse Kreese, but was indeed an unnecessary move, thus at this point he knew he had to get rid of Kreese.
Yup, he couldn't have Kreese around anymore with Kreese knowing that he is completely unhinged. He is just sane enough to realize this
John Kreese’s character development this season really surprised the hell out of me. He truly does care about Johnny
It's because Johnny is Kress son
@@corywagner9455 that is not true
@@theoutsiderjess1869 yes it is go watch the part when Kress was getting arrested and listen to what silver said he said don't worry about Lawrence I will take good care of him to so Johnny is Kress son
@@corywagner9455 No, Kreese is not his father.
@@americanninjawarriorkid2643 lol yes he Is also when silver was beating Johnny up why did Kress say stop it no more it's because they are related
I love how Terry uses the quicksilver method by first making sure Johnny can’t see by kicking him in the face, than can’t breathe by hitting him in the neck and then kicking him so he can’t stand.
if a man can't see he can't fight.
@@robinabernathy2829 if a man can't breathe he can't fight
If a man can't stand he can't fight
@@WAAIsNotFunny extreme situations require extreme measures.
In the throat not the neck but yeah
In a way this was Johnny's own fault. Daniel tried to warn him Silver was dangerous but all Johnny heard was when Daniel competed the next year they put him straight to the finals. He dismissed Silver as just an old man but he learned the hard way he was more than that.
he had his reasons
LOL Silver literally lays a trap for Johnny without Johnny having any idea and you say it's Johnny's fault
@@kbanghart I hope in season 5 it will be a rematch with Johnny Lawrence and Terry Silver
@@nealsmall9316 there will be... But with a twist thrown in, I'm sure.
@@kbanghart I thought that Johnny Lawrence and Terry Silver were going to get along
Terry Silver was confirming what he already suspected. That Johnny Lawrence was John Kreese's weakness.
Johnny was like John Kreese son he wanted to be top 1 that’s why and kreese learn his mistakes
@@Opticify you mean johnny was like john kreeses son
@@Opticify I don't think he necessarily saw him as a son, but as someone similar to him, just like see's Tori. John Kreese for all his flaws wanted to create champions winners, that can survive and thrive by any means necessary. The problem is that Kreese is warped by the trauma in his life.
@@ctcentralinfo that’s a good point. I was really hoping they wouldn’t go the biological father route.
@@siamsa69 i think we can rule out Kreese being Johnny's father as we saw the scene where young Johnny was hording things his father left behind in that box which insinuates that Johnny has memories of him before he abandon him.
When Kreese tells Silver "Let him go", it's kind of a throwback to when Miyagi told Kreese the same thing in KK2.
That “WOOOOO!!’” That Terry gave, brings it all back! Terry Silver is back baby! Woo
Love how Terry has a smile on his face while fighting johnny
I’m not gonna lie Terry vs Johnny was a badass fight even though Johnny lost, he still put up a fight and hold his own
Terry was to good man his high speed took Johnny by suprise
Johnny could do better if it wasn’t a surprise attack
@@ZayTh3God that’s true
@@ZayTh3God I feel like he was too quick to try and hit Silver again while he was defending
with johnny beaten this is why defense does not always work
"Let's GO!" worked even better than "Let's see how good you really are!"
I honestly love that part come on pretty boy LETS GO!!🔥🔥😂😂 when I box it’s like that for me I get over exited sometimes 😂🔥
It's crazy how Silver was just living his life and tried his hardest not to rejoin Kreese, but Kreese kept pushing him. And now, Kreese brought out the monster in Silver again, maybe even worse than Karate Kid 3.
The writers of this show did terry silver justice by writing him so well. And of course Thomas played him so well. Him along with the writers made an intimidating, smart, and psychically imposing villain that was a highlight of the show. He just steals every scene he is in. Bravo. 👏
Silver's 'Hissa' whenever he attacks is on point!
Yeah, the way he uses both Kreese's "Aits!" and his "Asa" in the fight was amazing.
ASAH!
@@charleswalsh5069 Aits!
1:56 The turning point of how Silver sees Krease. This is the moment Silver saw him as a hypocrite to the Cobra Kai code: Show no mercy.
The best thing about this fight is watching Johnny use Miyagi-Do defense to fend off Silver. I didn't really notice it until the second time I watched the episode (even though Silver's line should have clued me in the first time), but see the different styles play out in this scene and the tournament was so awesome. Cobra Kai is brilliant.
I really embrace that shot between 1:10-1:14 just to see Johnny Lawrence and Terry Silver go at each other. Johnny with the miyagi-do defense and Terry with his signature spinning hook kick.
Seeing Johnny using defense just brings joy to me for some reason. He really opened up
He was doing great but when he went for the blow Terry countered. Needs to learn patience.
Terry forced him into defense mode, must also be noted that silver is way more experienced at cobra kai than Johnny
Terry set him up for that kick and Johnny hadnt been training enough miyagi do to stop it
Season 4 was literally a twilight zone. Johnny did a lot of things I’d never thought he’d do
Like getting beating up by another old!!!!! Man.sad
Including “Wax on, wax off”
Reese. You clearly don't no much about karate. The more knowledge and experience the deadly your body becomes. How old you are makes no difference. Karate is a way of life.
@@johndixonkingdom whole life have balance
@@ressestevenson7309 you know they're actually a similar age
1:14 -1:22 wow crazy acting skills, he’s so brilliant!! The way Thomas managed to bring out Terry's madness, just wow
Love how much fun he’s having with everything, just like the whole cast
Ikr this guy has been retired from acting in years but it’s amazing how he can just slip into that character
If you ever find yourself having a hard time putting TIG's talent into words, just remember that he single handedly saved KK3 from being a total waste of time.
@@B-Rad_99 Mike Barnes was a great character too.
@@B-Rad_99 still tht movie made more than ur entire family combined
I love how he keeps smiling while fighting. It's like he really loves doing karate