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This is actually comforting in a way. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of other viewers here have struggled for awhile with the split between being completely genuine with others for the sake of individuation versus putting on a show for the benefits it offers to their social, working, or family life. From Jung's perspective, the construction and employment of a Persona feels like it's something that humans as biological social entities do naturally, just like how birds sing songs to each other. We don't judge the birds for singing, it's just what they do, and it's very beautiful. Makes the whole "mask" thing feel a little less guilty as long as it's healthily maintained.
@@non-ofyo-business3399 I know I am, I like many other lean too much towards the collective and tend to ignore or even suppress the individual often for the sake of conformity. But I am working on this.
well im an outcast so rejecting society is easy i have a sort of inverse identification with my persona, sure i identify with it but im choosing the elements to incorperate into it i dont even believe in ID ive spent many a day not eating because i gotta individuate first and foremost ....when i do take up a day or two of putting on the mask for money i feel the strain and also in living in the world and concerns of the masses is a sort of background static drowning out my self actualization for me the persona is an ideal to live up too and inject with my favorite mythos, tho lately i been jus tryna put it out there raw and honest im a fk up for as much as im a success and thats jus the truth of it as is no filters.... prolly shows lmfao
I really enjoyed your reply I wish I need to step a long time ago learning it when you're old it's kind of like wanting to live now and you're about to die. Kind of f****** sad
I see the "mask" as a way of increasing your accessibility, if I was 100% myself all the time, ppl most likely would tell me to shut up or would say that I'm VERY pretentious. I see it this way, we have the wild spirit, the real self that is displayed when we are alone, and the accesible spirit, the filtered self that we show to other individuals. We could be our wild mind, but we all know that we ALL have some awful traits that shouldn't come out of the studio, so that's what makes the "mask" and this "mask" has a good percentage of our real spirit no matter what.
Definitely, I see it as an “introductory” stage of what you are and can be. Nobody typically has the patience to “try every dish on the menu” so to speak, but it’s up to the individual what dishes they can push forward. I can show you the dishes that are my personal favorite. The popular dishes. The dishes that are difficult to make and maybe not necessarily most commonly chosen. It’s up to the person.
Uhm NO. Everyone should show their true self 100% of time and when you misbehave or whatever kind of trauma society put on you there. If you misbehave you shape your true self instead of your mask self... you can change your true self... god this will take 100 years until people would understand this. I mean humanity collectively. If humanity survives that long
I'm a recovering alcoholic.. these talks and others like it are incredibly helpful to me when I'm frustrated with others, or situations, etc. I wish I had a better way to explain how, but it really does. Thanks for the heads up and insight!
Eternalised has some things in common with very few other channels like Academy of Ideas..great thoughts accompanied by great artworks. Entertaining while being ennobling. What an accomplishment and what a concept.
I don’t think I have a persona anymore I used to act out a lot for the attention but I realized that it went against what I am as a person, I think looking so deep into myself has made it all to difficult to understand myself so now I just live and note my reactions to situations
As a veteran, I agree with your assessment. We are all conditioned from a young age about what the military and the constitution stood for, and then conditioned what to say/think/feel/do from men we have never met to break us down and mold us into “men”. Most of these characteristics disappear once you are thrust into what I like to call the “real world”. But man, the military feels more like reality because we were allowed to be ourselves in a sense. I see a lot of veterans going through self-identity crisis’ because they have no idea who they are once they separate. I believe the best memories and experiences come from the military that the civilian world cannot offer. I would like to say most of us have a completely different perspective on the world because of our experiences, as we truly care about society, but society could care less about anything else. If you see a veteran going through a bad time, or even see a veteran living life to the fullest, a heartfelt, genuine, simple, “How are you?” can go a long way. Truly, be honest with your heart, let your guard down, and open up your emotions or the veteran will not open up at all. All veterans want is 10 minutes to sit down and have somebody, anybody, just listen AND understand how they feel. It can save a veterans life. I should know, Ive saved one of my brothers from walking down the path you can’t return from. Although, if you ask most veterans and myself, we would gladly do it all over again, which is a strange feeling.
@@Frankaye I'm all for getting veterans help and showing them compassion but to say they care about society is a massive lie. Most of these kids get into the military before their fully able to reason such a massive decision not to mention you're most likely an American which means your militarily responsible for some of the biggest crimes against humanity in the last 200 years.
@@latuya5887 You are out of touch with reality. That is what has been programmed and conditioned into your beliefs. Im assuming you are very young with no life experience. Every nation commits atrocities. Do more research before throwing around your subjective perspective.
I was aware of my persona yet still immersed in it heavily and didn't develop my own individuality. The awareness makes it so that it can't be shattered by other people but you are starting to feel extremely tired after every day. I couldn't take it anymore and shattered my persona 3 years ago and still trying to develop my own individuality. I think i did pretty good job considering that i am writing this under this video. But it was really hard and i still have suicidal tendencies. But it feels good to keep moving on the right trajectory at least i think it is right.
You’ve been really taken with Jung of recent, and have provided some fascinating insight into his work. I studied him for years, reading all his books. He’s one of those rare life-changing discoveries… and those kinds of people NEVER come along
I, similar to thou, have noticed this channel’s recent inquiry upon the teachings and philosophies of the GREAT Jung. May I add that mine self is EVER so grateful that this channel may provide such compelling insights. Yo im not lying about liking this channel but you talk too proper for a youtube comment section lmao. It’s just one of my pet peeves -like when the youtube video includes intellectual shit everyone in the comments suddenly has to sound fancy… like bruh. Shut it lol
For those fortunate enough to be here - I recommend you play the “videogames” Persona 5 & Persona 4 Golden. Phenomenal stories and implementation of Jungian shadows and personas. Incredible experiences
@@TheEmperorRaidou Yeah, why are Persona-users exempt from having shadows, when all humans are supposed to have them? There is no such thing as a human without a shadow.
I am a husband, a father, a grandfather, an artist, a technologist, a designer, a Lions Club member, a friend, a philanthropist, a sensei , a believer, a non-believer, a philosopher, a musician etc. etc. etc. I am a Jack of all trades and a master of some. I am but one person, and many persons, but not the exact same person for each of the roles. I try to be authentically “me” in each of those labels without artifice. I can change my role as faster than one can mask up. But I suppose that is what a persona really is. As soon as one attempts to wear a mask that does not genuinely belong to them then they aim to deceive. And only then does a persona become a impedance rather than an asset.
@@hotsauce153 And what is the point of your question ? You either get it or you don’t. Intended to be allegory. We all have roles… I know mine. Hopefully you recognize yours.
First time I realized this 'persona' thing, I didn't have a name for it. I was around 14 years old and happened to be walking home from school with a couple of other kids. I was all animated and enjoying the interactions until one of them parted ways onto his home street. All of a sudden there was complete silence between the other kid and I. It was almost as if I had become a different person. It felt so weird and I was glad I had to turn off onto another street shortly after that. I understood it had to do with the 'relationship' between me and the remaining kid (or lack of relationship); but that was the first time I awoke to it. I get the feeling nowadays all these years later that a lot of it has to do with how I'm trying to come across to other people, as opposed to just being totally relaxed with what I present as a 'person', which might be an impractical possibility, at least some of the time.
It is interesting how different we can be according to the person we are with. Some people we can "play off of" and some we cannot. I've been wondering about this recently. Some people open us up while some shut us down. Is it like attracts like or opposites attract, or situational? I recently thought how I "hated" a certain person, and my next thought was that must mean I love them (uh-oh). And is it actually myself I see in this person that is manifesting these feelings? For certainly we have these feelings of both like and dislike toward ourselves, our light and dark sides. Great comment, helping me to process some unruly thoughts that have sprouted around another...
In all likelihood you hadn't matured enough or developed a sense of self enough to be authentic to others whom you did not really know. A person on the path to individuation does not fear expressing their authentic self - that doesn't have for most people until later in life, and certainly not during one's teenage years (when the sense of identity truly starts developing)
I think many people (including myself) consciously deploy the persona because we know our true self is too caustic & would cause negative reactions that we simply don't have the mental energy to engage with (aka picking the "hill" one dies on, if I'm arguing with you, I adore you)...hence the sugary persona that is a true barrier against interaction, but make no mistake, I'm very aware of the mask 🎭 Great vid, subscribed
Very much the same. As also being an introvert, it's so much easier for me to slip out of my persona because I know that only in my own solitude can I truly experience my awareness.
@@matthewmeuleman3369 I tell myself that a lot but still tend to bend my self out of shape for the persona and then feel awful about it, as even after being aware of it, I identify with it enough to still engage in that behaviour.
Remember my persona developing in the adolescences. Suppressing all my impulses and wishes because of shame. Remember seeing other teens suppressing their intuition too and walking mechanical like a robot. And others being more fluent. I Couldnt interpretate my strong new perception and awareness of my body. Now I want achieve this state of being again and listen to my body instead of suppressing its function.
In addiction, everyone I hung out with was a addict/ criminal , and u had to shape shift all the time because these people you hang out with will look for weakness and try and take advantage of you . I did this for 10 years , and can now read people on a different level
I need to return to my art which comes from the collective unconcious, and is full of archetypes.I' m not doing that now and I feel depressed and apathetic.The art you use in your videos is bringing me back to my self.
As someone who has been in a narcissistic abusive household since I was born and I'm now going into my 30's, I have found my 'persona' is getting incredibly wonky. It was formed haphazardly and my persona when I'm around my parents was specifically curated to survive my environment and recover from the constant psychological trauma which I am currently facing CPTSD because of. As I'm becoming more aware of my social mask and trying to take it off and be more genuine with myself - I find it pops up very strangely when I'm around my parents. It's becoming to the point where I can step outside of that curated persona more with myself and even strangers - but it seems to uncontrollably take over me with certain people I don't feel safe around. There are certain people I change my voice around to make myself sound innocent and stupid - which was how I survived being around my parents, so my voice would never threaten them which it naturally did when I didn't dumb myself down. This changing of the voice makes me seem weaker than I am, less sure of myself - so when it springs forth when I'm around my parents it triggers a lot of shame. I have to pretend I'm not the survivor I am around them - but that weakened, broken child somehow comes through. I wonder how the persona specifically affects those recovering from childhood trauma because the curation of that persona coincided with some soul-crushing identity ruining circumstances. I'm on the autism so the persona is something I'm very conscious of.
Observe your reactions. Become objective. Watch others reactions then control when and how you react...and you will have power beyond your imagination.
Oh wow I do the same things, revert back to a child like state I really hate that, but I'm trying to do whatever I can to build the confidence to be myself.
Becoming authentic doesn’t happen over night especially if one has been broken by one’s parents or partner, it can take time but it will develop if put into practice bit by bit, day by day.
Just some thoughts: The choice to consider the origins of persona as only the mask, or face we put out with, is defining the whole approach of this video. But persona, has another origin as well. Which evades the Jung universe. A mask, has basically 2 sides. One that shows outward, one inward. Thus, and obviously, the mask reveals the bearer of the mask, as another entity. The whole idea of a mask, is to be perceived. It is therfore, superficial, emphasizing the covering aspects of the mask. This persona interpretation, is 2-dimensional. Interpreted from outside, it will inevitably reflect. Which is to say, it won't tell us much about the bearer, in truth. The waiter in the café, is not seen as other, as the acting of his role, the participation in a societal play. And of course, from the point of view of this "planar" surface, so called indivuation, or consciousness reflection, is basically lost. Giving room for all kinds of attempts to recognize the bearer in multiple setup categories loosing themselves in "collective" abyssinal constructions. There is another meaning to persona, which is coming from "per-sonare" or sound through. Although there are some obvious similarities, the main difference is, that persona is not 2-dimensional, but represents the whole set through which the "being" of an individ, is manifested. This doesn't exclude a superficial reflecting mask. But includes much more, to the extend of it's being. Like a trumpet to the blow. How consciousness emerges, is very much given by its name con(with)science(knowledge). All these artifacts we put op to analyze the objective self, are doomed to mislead, be deflected. In all honesty, one should attend to know oneself. In truth. The first thing, is to acknowledge, that individuation is a given fact. Not something to achieve. We may feel lost to who or what we are, but we are. And like anything that is, each distinct element, we are unique. Being free, we assume that it is us playing the trumpet. But we are more trumpet, than trumpeter.. Actually, I do not see myself as a bare instrument. I am given. I may play. The whole recognition of the gift of being, is at the core of who we are. Our oneness is a path to understand that "who". As I see it, the abyss, is everything else than what we recognize to be true. ... Time for a cookie
@@martitinkovich4489 the mask etymology of persona refers probably to greek prosopon, meaning "to the view", a name given to the theatrical masks of the time.
@@bigboss-qv7pe This reminds me of Proust. Were you sleeping? The mother asked. I replied "no" while waking up. Strange things we leave falling in and out of sleep.
This explanation was so confusing. It felt like I was having a stroke. Like I was reading something perfectly understandable in terms of period structure, but couldn't take the meaning out of it, but I was glad to read some kind of sensible critique of Jung psychology, which is rare.
The writings of Marshall Vian Summers refer to these different aspects of the mind as personal or surface mind and Knowledge or Impersonal Mind. He writes "Knowledge represents your bond and your intrinsic relationship with all life. Knowledge is your connection to everything. Knowledge is the part of your mind that is spiritual and permanent.... You live life at two levels. You live life at the level at which you think, and you live life at the level at which you know. It is to bring you into life at the level at which you know that is the purpose of true religion in all of its forms. This reunites you with your Creator and with your greater purpose for being in the world. This brings you back to Knowledge, for God can only be known." (Greater Community Spirituality, MVS)
Thank you for sharing this here. I have looked into Mr. Summers work and was genuninely blown away by it. For me the work he has brought into the world confirmed all that I could feel was true about life, but then added dimensions I could never have imagined. I am convinced humanity has the potential to become a free and compassionate race thanks if more people studied "The Steps to Knowledge".
The picture at the all night cafe is a classic. An emptiness with the individual with his back to us. What is his persona? What is his inner self? I think he must have two personas. His attire makes me think he must engage with people as part of his job, but here he appears unengaged.
sometimes when doing DMT, i would experience the obliteration of the self, the death of the ego and being reborn as a pure consciousness. the feeling that one gets during this is indescribable. its amazing to experience.
i’m glad to have discovered this channel! it’s on par with other great ones such as Einzelganger, i hope to see your channel blow up even more this year it’d also be cool if you could make a video on Alan Watts too and explore the philisophies he talked about in his lectures, it’s amazing to see more people talk about these subjects more
Personas are necessary to simply get through life in a civilized fashion. They can become dysfunctional but they're simply a part of being human, as natural as breathing.
Incredible description of the persona! One question that always arises in me when studying Jung is whether or not he would consider himself to be a psychiatrist/psychoanalyst, philosopher, writer, etc. or if he considered these to be personas? How does one distinguish between a known purpose of the self and a persona when we're inevitably interacting with the outside world?
2:09 there is another option you missed, and it's probably the most common... 4. In private, live without persona. In public, create or draw from memory personae that suit the moment. To prevent any kind of multiple personality disorder or similar, it would be important to only alter the way you present yourself while maintaining your true opinions, principles, and morals. What you present is real, but the way you present is drastically altered. For example, how you conduct yourself at a job interview versus at a drinking session with friends. I'm not saying it's the right option or a healthy option, I'm saying it's quite possibly the most common.
Wow man. Thank you very much for this video and your channel. It is really giving me a broader perspective about all these concepts. For years I thought I have already figured it all out about this, until I started to ask myself some questions and read Jung's works (which is not an easy task I should say, but your way of explaining in your own words makes it so much easy to digest the information).
1:55 ego is not necessary. It really is an illusion., once true reality has been realised. Ego is actually an activity of self contraction. It’s like pinching oneself, pinching one’s true self. If we didn’t pinch, if we didn’t live like a clenched fist, then we would be enlightened. To live like an open hand. Is liberation from all of our egoic nonsense. See Adi Da.
i was aware of the existence of personas but i never understood why people do that. i theorize that i have some kind of inability or inhibition to form a persona. i can (after decades of thoughtful and concious training) act nicer than i actually am but i notice that i'm uncomfortable doing it. and i'm always relieved when i can drop the act. i think that's where my extreme selectiveness in terms of people i want to spend time with as opposed to i find exhausting comes from. maybe the former are people who feel similar, who don't like to fake being someone they aren't while also having a personality similar to mine. you could imagine the number of these is extremly small. this also may very well be the reason why so many people i tried to interact with throughout my youth thought i was weird but couldn't tell me why. i think it's weird that being genuine is perceived as weird.
Very, very awesome video, thank you. It’s a great introduction to carl jung’s work. I will share it with my better half. I think inner work is equal to happiness if done consciously. 😊
As someone who was diagnosed with PDD as a child, I knew nothing was wrong with me. Only others wanted to pretend/conform more than I wanted to. I liked being myself and let me emotions be what they were. The only thing that was different was that I didn't express them in a way that made others happy. I was true to myself. Always continue to look within, most answers are there. Pretending just makes things more difficult, find your path.
The art work called "Archetypes" is for some unknown reason greatly important to me. There are three wagers on the table, yet four players. Who wagered the cross and beads ( perhaps a Crucifix?) . Who did not wager and yet still plays? So many possible answers, truly a great meditation!!!
I’ve always been in a conflict with my self because I thought the person who ppl around me think I am has nothing to what truly I am or at least to how truly I see myself and now after watching this video I understand that it’s not my fault but that my surrounding that is expecting too much from me and what lead me to create this persona that fit with what they want but has nothing to do with me. It’s just feel good and weird to know about that I feel peaceful because I don’t blame myself anymore for that and also I feel like I get closer to understand myself it’s like I am able now to see the line that differentiate between who am i and my persona
Conscience cannot grasp the mind completely, as it is contained in it, it can only grasp portions of it, and only if it is small enough. Else, it over identifies with the contents it's trying to grasp and loses itself. (Like Nietzsche)
This ties into the notion of a true name. A name that reflects one’s true nature and is likely only known or even suspected by oneself. I’ve been doing the work this video has talked about especially shadow and archetypes for most of my life. I’ve always wanted to understand people’s true nature, the pretense isn’t interesting. That is why I find most people uninteresting because they don’t know themselves and believe illusion and chase abstraction. I find Jung to be a surpassingly deep thinker and communicator. I hope his work can hold my attention for a few months (I tend to read things again over the years however my mind consumes knowledge like an inferno)
The deadliest demon vanquishing. Watch out. On taking my last 2 week vow of honesty, instead of battling demons, I was surrounded by dust & there were none. When the dust settled I saw the ground was covered with little turtle shells & they were light & I could pick them up & kick them around. They went by names "Shannon Doherty", "Phoebe" (from friends), & Winona Ryder & others I'd walked into parties looking like (because, who likes being looked at when they walk into parties right?). I thought they were harmless to move, but they're not. You deal with them very very carefully. For that real estate, you chance being killed. Take it easy with those masks you wear.
Thank you lord jesus for creating atomic bombs, world wars, starvation, cancer, HIV, and even parasites that lay eggs in peoples brains that once hatched eat away at peoples brains from the inside. Such kind god you are
I usually adapt the joker/jester persona amongst my close long time friends, I'm a bit insecure on the fact that I'm the only one who went to university..so I sometimes make it a point to make inappropriate jokes about serious topics whenever they come up, usually dismissing it with a joke..followed by some snarky comment about how nothing really matters in the world.
But when you really think about it.. nothing about you could be what it is without other. From physical reality to your genes to your stimulation, language, attitude..and for the very reason that you are even talking right now..is dependently connected to other people and environment. Imo, your self that everyone is talking about is actually, in truth, analogous to a black hole.
That’s not how being your true self works.Growing up as a child I’ve always been my self and was my happiest doing so till I was in 5th grade.I began to build a persona and the longer the time passed the more angry and upset I was because I wasn’t being myself and I didn’t even realise it I just thought I was just a moody person.Covid then hit and it gave me time to look into myself and my older bro helped me out after Covid to be myself and meet ppl whilst being myself.It was a hard journey but I finally embrace my inner child and true self
But even though I am my true self outside of school I still act the same towards the ppl I portrayed my persona too idk why but it’s like my soul doesn’t want to show my best true self to these ppl so I always feel lonely in school but I try to think about my friends and the memories I made outside of school to keep pushing
Persona is only made through conditioning and its bad because your true self could be very energetic and outgoing like myself but your persona could be introverted and quiet which is myself in school and it drains me so everyone must strive to be their true self.Being your true self doesn’t mean that you going to express everything you can still express yourself appropriately without weirding ppl out which is where social skills come in
i always felt like i dont know who i am. and then, after years of years of trying to please everyone and fitting into society and doing "important" work, i had like some sort of mental breakdown. i cracked, and now i feel like am gone. like, i still dont know who i am, nor do i recognize who i was. but somehow, it doesnt matter. which is nice.
Why meditation is necessary. A way to go “out there” without totally jumping in with no way back. Almost all fear the abyss as they are not ready for what they may find.
For I do not exist: there exist but the thousands of mirrors that reflect me. With every acquaintance I make, the population of phantoms resembling me increases. Somewhere they live, somewhere they multiply. I alone do not exist.
Persona is an inevitability due to social influence, we can't avoid it! but since we're living due to these influences, when did we first recognise it, how often do we consider it and when was the last time we approached it? And even then... how can we be sure of the real us in the end? Because if we're on this road of self discovery, we begin by seeking self improvement initially which means we embrace essential change, so where does the change end? It doesn't! so we are in a perpetual circle of change for self improvement to which the persona and true self ever have to adapt, it's a constant of life, just embrace what you are as you go on in search of the betterment of the self.
The shadow self is so incredibly complicated and interesting. I have done about 6 years total of therapy where I revealed this shadow and uncovered a part of it.... but even though I THINK I can always recognize my shadow coming out ..... sometimes it just takes over. Psychology is endlessly fascinating and I desperately wish I felt I had the time to go get a degree... I'm only 28 but with the economy it really feels too late or just kinda hopeless for me.... this is also a shadow coming out... crazy stuff
Dude, I’m 39, going back to school. Raised my kids, still married, just want to make myself have a different use now that I’m past one stage going into another. Find balance somewhere. I work and still have many chores Is going to be slow . Don’t let complete societal collapse stop you from making yourself useful.
Off topic, but in the image at 8:54, Death is betting his hourglass, the angel the cross, the naked woman the flower. I may be overanalyzing, but is the buddhist monk betting no-thing?
Crazy how I learned all of this as a young teenager and that video explains why I am seeing people so differently than everyone else. I always see their true self. And most people are just NPCs thats very... dystopian
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This channel is the best on Yt hands down.
Another topic that I suggest is.. Using Persona without losing Oneself..
I am subscribed and will be waiting because the video leaves us with unanswered questions
There's no evidence of a persona.. there's the body and the personality (which is the byproduct of intelligence)..
This is actually comforting in a way. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of other viewers here have struggled for awhile with the split between being completely genuine with others for the sake of individuation versus putting on a show for the benefits it offers to their social, working, or family life. From Jung's perspective, the construction and employment of a Persona feels like it's something that humans as biological social entities do naturally, just like how birds sing songs to each other. We don't judge the birds for singing, it's just what they do, and it's very beautiful. Makes the whole "mask" thing feel a little less guilty as long as it's healthily maintained.
Unfortunately it’s not way to many people become identical with their persona and even obsessed with it
Well put
@@non-ofyo-business3399 I know I am, I like many other lean too much towards the collective and tend to ignore or even suppress the individual often for the sake of conformity. But I am working on this.
well im an outcast so rejecting society is easy
i have a sort of inverse identification with my persona, sure i identify with it but im choosing the elements to incorperate into it
i dont even believe in ID
ive spent many a day not eating because i gotta individuate first and foremost
....when i do take up a day or two of putting on the mask for money i feel the strain
and also in living in the world and concerns of the masses is a sort of background static drowning out my self actualization
for me the persona is an ideal to live up too and inject with my favorite mythos, tho lately i been jus tryna put it out there raw and honest im a fk up for as much as im a success and thats jus the truth of it as is no filters.... prolly shows lmfao
I really enjoyed your reply I wish I need to step a long time ago learning it when you're old it's kind of like wanting to live now and you're about to die. Kind of f****** sad
I see the "mask" as a way of increasing your accessibility, if I was 100% myself all the time, ppl most likely would tell me to shut up or would say that I'm VERY pretentious.
I see it this way, we have the wild spirit, the real self that is displayed when we are alone, and the accesible spirit, the filtered self that we show to other individuals. We could be our wild mind, but we all know that we ALL have some awful traits that shouldn't come out of the studio, so that's what makes the "mask" and this "mask" has a good percentage of our real spirit no matter what.
Definitely, I see it as an “introductory” stage of what you are and can be. Nobody typically has the patience to “try every dish on the menu” so to speak, but it’s up to the individual what dishes they can push forward. I can show you the dishes that are my personal favorite. The popular dishes. The dishes that are difficult to make and maybe not necessarily most commonly chosen. It’s up to the person.
Well said. The persona is necessary because we live in societies. If you want to live fully authentically you will live alone!
@@celiacresswell6909 Yes, that is why prophets and sages go hermit
@@mikeleonel you would have to be very strong or very crazy
Uhm NO. Everyone should show their true self 100% of time and when you misbehave or whatever kind of trauma society put on you there. If you misbehave you shape your true self instead of your mask self... you can change your true self... god this will take 100 years until people would understand this. I mean humanity collectively. If humanity survives that long
Perfect for us who always end up in deep thoughts on the holidays.
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Yes, in addition to the the deep thoughts, humor is always welcome. :)
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Not trying to be smart but could you explain what you mean by your comment?
I'm a recovering alcoholic.. these talks and others like it are incredibly helpful to me when I'm frustrated with others, or situations, etc.
I wish I had a better way to explain how, but it really does.
Thanks for the heads up and insight!
Psychic equilibrium is a balance between oneself and the collective conciousness
I love this
Eternalised has some things in common with very few other channels like Academy of Ideas..great thoughts accompanied by great artworks. Entertaining while being ennobling. What an accomplishment and what a concept.
True!
I was just thinking the same thing !
I don’t think I have a persona anymore I used to act out a lot for the attention but I realized that it went against what I am as a person, I think looking so deep into myself has made it all to difficult to understand myself so now I just live and note my reactions to situations
Losing a persona and the possible crisis that occurs after that i think plays a massive role in veteran suicide rates
Yes or if you are a type who loses yourself in relationships and then it ends, you also fall into some crisis.
As a veteran, I agree with your assessment. We are all conditioned from a young age about what the military and the constitution stood for, and then conditioned what to say/think/feel/do from men we have never met to break us down and mold us into “men”. Most of these characteristics disappear once you are thrust into what I like to call the “real world”. But man, the military feels more like reality because we were allowed to be ourselves in a sense. I see a lot of veterans going through self-identity crisis’ because they have no idea who they are once they separate. I believe the best memories and experiences come from the military that the civilian world cannot offer. I would like to say most of us have a completely different perspective on the world because of our experiences, as we truly care about society, but society could care less about anything else. If you see a veteran going through a bad time, or even see a veteran living life to the fullest, a heartfelt, genuine, simple, “How are you?” can go a long way. Truly, be honest with your heart, let your guard down, and open up your emotions or the veteran will not open up at all. All veterans want is 10 minutes to sit down and have somebody, anybody, just listen AND understand how they feel. It can save a veterans life. I should know, Ive saved one of my brothers from walking down the path you can’t return from. Although, if you ask most veterans and myself, we would gladly do it all over again, which is a strange feeling.
@@Frankaye I'm all for getting veterans help and showing them compassion but to say they care about society is a massive lie. Most of these kids get into the military before their fully able to reason such a massive decision not to mention you're most likely an American which means your militarily responsible for some of the biggest crimes against humanity in the last 200 years.
@@latuya5887 You are out of touch with reality. That is what has been programmed and conditioned into your beliefs. Im assuming you are very young with no life experience. Every nation commits atrocities. Do more research before throwing around your subjective perspective.
@@Frankaye lmao with the whatsboutism
This channel deserves way more viewers. Keep up the great videos
You're everywhere 🤣
She throws good wisdom wherever she goes.
There she is my UA-cam crush
Weirdos lmao
@@NeuralOscillations lmaoo
I was aware of my persona yet still immersed in it heavily and didn't develop my own individuality. The awareness makes it so that it can't be shattered by other people but you are starting to feel extremely tired after every day. I couldn't take it anymore and shattered my persona 3 years ago and still trying to develop my own individuality. I think i did pretty good job considering that i am writing this under this video. But it was really hard and i still have suicidal tendencies. But it feels good to keep moving on the right trajectory at least i think it is right.
I kinda enjoy my hard times you see things truly and different in a good way long story short we are greats just hold on 👁️
You’ve been really taken with Jung of recent, and have provided some fascinating insight into his work. I studied him for years, reading all his books. He’s one of those rare life-changing discoveries… and those kinds of people NEVER come along
They do, read the Quran...
They do but ultimately get misguided or mislead from/by society
Which books would you recommend?
@@user-karo262 “The World as Will and Representation” - Arthur Schopenhauer
I, similar to thou, have noticed this channel’s recent inquiry upon the teachings and philosophies of the GREAT Jung. May I add that mine self is EVER so grateful that this channel may provide such compelling insights.
Yo im not lying about liking this channel but you talk too proper for a youtube comment section lmao. It’s just one of my pet peeves -like when the youtube video includes intellectual shit everyone in the comments suddenly has to sound fancy… like bruh. Shut it lol
For those fortunate enough to be here - I recommend you play the “videogames” Persona 5 & Persona 4 Golden. Phenomenal stories and implementation of Jungian shadows and personas. Incredible experiences
nahh, play persona 1 and 2 duology which are W games
@@lmao-mj4ee Literally P1 and P2 are more loyal to the works of Jung too lol. The neo persona games are just a mockery of it
Why only those games M?
I love those games and I play persona 5 for hours. The quotes are great in this game and definitely shows you your true persona.
@@TheEmperorRaidou Yeah, why are Persona-users exempt from having shadows, when all humans are supposed to have them? There is no such thing as a human without a shadow.
I am a husband, a father, a grandfather, an artist, a technologist, a designer, a Lions Club member, a friend, a philanthropist, a sensei , a believer, a non-believer, a philosopher, a musician etc. etc. etc.
I am a Jack of all trades and a master of some. I am but one person, and many persons, but not the exact same person for each of the roles.
I try to be authentically “me” in each of those labels without artifice. I can change my role as faster than one can mask up. But I suppose that is what a persona really is.
As soon as one attempts to wear a mask that does not genuinely belong to them then they aim to deceive. And only then does a persona become a impedance rather than an asset.
And what's the point of all of what you said, bud
@@hotsauce153
And what is the point of your question ?
You either get it or you don’t.
Intended to be allegory.
We all have roles… I know mine.
Hopefully you recognize yours.
But you, as I, are in truth.
Interesting
@@hotsauce153comically missed the point lmao
First time I realized this 'persona' thing, I didn't have a name for it.
I was around 14 years old and happened to be walking home from school with a couple of other kids.
I was all animated and enjoying the interactions until one of them parted ways onto his home street.
All of a sudden there was complete silence between the other kid and I. It was almost as if I had become a different person.
It felt so weird and I was glad I had to turn off onto another street shortly after that.
I understood it had to do with the 'relationship' between me and the remaining kid (or lack of relationship); but that was the first time I awoke to it.
I get the feeling nowadays all these years later that a lot of it has to do with how I'm trying to come across to other people, as opposed to just being totally relaxed with what I present as a 'person', which might be an impractical possibility, at least some of the time.
I mean, maybe talking to your friend made you happy and this other kid you just didn’t know that well
It is interesting how different we can be according to the person we are with. Some people we can "play off of" and some we cannot. I've been wondering about this recently. Some people open us up while some shut us down. Is it like attracts like or opposites attract, or situational? I recently thought how I "hated" a certain person, and my next thought was that must mean I love them (uh-oh). And is it actually myself I see in this person that is manifesting these feelings? For certainly we have these feelings of both like and dislike toward ourselves, our light and dark sides. Great comment, helping me to process some unruly thoughts that have sprouted around another...
In all likelihood you hadn't matured enough or developed a sense of self enough to be authentic to others whom you did not really know.
A person on the path to individuation does not fear expressing their authentic self - that doesn't have for most people until later in life, and certainly not during one's teenage years (when the sense of identity truly starts developing)
I think many people (including myself) consciously deploy the persona because we know our true self is too caustic & would cause negative reactions that we simply don't have the mental energy to engage with (aka picking the "hill" one dies on, if I'm arguing with you, I adore you)...hence the sugary persona that is a true barrier against interaction, but make no mistake, I'm very aware of the mask 🎭
Great vid, subscribed
Not me. What you see is what you get. If you like it fine, if you don’t fine.
Very much the same. As also being an introvert, it's so much easier for me to slip out of my persona because I know that only in my own solitude can I truly experience my awareness.
@@grayson1946 being yourself is a good filter, if people don't like the true you, they aren't worth having around
Thank you for this
@@matthewmeuleman3369 I tell myself that a lot but still tend to bend my self out of shape for the persona and then feel awful about it, as even after being aware of it, I identify with it enough to still engage in that behaviour.
It's much easier to look at oneself in a mirror than in solitude.
Remember my persona developing in the adolescences. Suppressing all my impulses and wishes because of shame. Remember seeing other teens suppressing their intuition too and walking mechanical like a robot. And others being more fluent. I Couldnt interpretate my strong new perception and awareness of my body. Now I want achieve this state of being again and listen to my body instead of suppressing its function.
In addiction, everyone I hung out with was a addict/ criminal , and u had to shape shift all the time because these people you hang out with will look for weakness and try and take advantage of you . I did this for 10 years , and can now read people on a different level
I need to return to my art which comes from the collective unconcious, and is full of archetypes.I' m not doing that now and I feel depressed and apathetic.The art you use in your videos is bringing me back to my self.
As someone who has been in a narcissistic abusive household since I was born and I'm now going into my 30's, I have found my 'persona' is getting incredibly wonky. It was formed haphazardly and my persona when I'm around my parents was specifically curated to survive my environment and recover from the constant psychological trauma which I am currently facing CPTSD because of. As I'm becoming more aware of my social mask and trying to take it off and be more genuine with myself - I find it pops up very strangely when I'm around my parents. It's becoming to the point where I can step outside of that curated persona more with myself and even strangers - but it seems to uncontrollably take over me with certain people I don't feel safe around. There are certain people I change my voice around to make myself sound innocent and stupid - which was how I survived being around my parents, so my voice would never threaten them which it naturally did when I didn't dumb myself down. This changing of the voice makes me seem weaker than I am, less sure of myself - so when it springs forth when I'm around my parents it triggers a lot of shame. I have to pretend I'm not the survivor I am around them - but that weakened, broken child somehow comes through. I wonder how the persona specifically affects those recovering from childhood trauma because the curation of that persona coincided with some soul-crushing identity ruining circumstances. I'm on the autism so the persona is something I'm very conscious of.
Observe your reactions. Become objective. Watch others reactions then control when and how you react...and you will have power beyond your imagination.
Oh wow I do the same things, revert back to a child like state I really hate that, but I'm trying to do whatever I can to build the confidence to be myself.
i’ve had been going up with abusive parents and too have cptsd. i do this. i thought i was alone🩷
Becoming authentic doesn’t happen over night especially if one has been broken by one’s parents or partner, it can take time but it will develop if put into practice bit by bit, day by day.
It's ur
Birth right
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Be obligated to no one
The only obligation one has to his fellow man is to
Love
Accept the roles for each part of your life. Let the persona be integrated with one aim. Kicking life's ass!!
What a nice quote. Made me smile
Absolutely love this comment.
@@Zaklust we try!
@@gracefitzgerald2227 😄
@@WessideBeats 👊🏻
Your videos on Jung appear to be the clearest and easiest to understand that I have seen. Thank you.
Just some thoughts:
The choice to consider the origins of persona as only the mask, or face we put out with, is defining the whole approach of this video. But persona, has another origin as well. Which evades the Jung universe.
A mask, has basically 2 sides. One that shows outward, one inward. Thus, and obviously, the mask reveals the bearer of the mask, as another entity. The whole idea of a mask, is to be perceived. It is therfore, superficial, emphasizing the covering aspects of the mask. This persona interpretation, is 2-dimensional. Interpreted from outside, it will inevitably reflect. Which is to say, it won't tell us much about the bearer, in truth. The waiter in the café, is not seen as other, as the acting of his role, the participation in a societal play. And of course, from the point of view of this "planar" surface, so called indivuation, or consciousness reflection, is basically lost. Giving room for all kinds of attempts to recognize the bearer in multiple setup categories loosing themselves in "collective" abyssinal constructions.
There is another meaning to persona, which is coming from "per-sonare" or sound through. Although there are some obvious similarities, the main difference is, that persona is not 2-dimensional, but represents the whole set through which the "being" of an individ, is manifested. This doesn't exclude a superficial reflecting mask. But includes much more, to the extend of it's being. Like a trumpet to the blow. How consciousness emerges, is very much given by its name con(with)science(knowledge).
All these artifacts we put op to analyze the objective self, are doomed to mislead, be deflected. In all honesty, one should attend to know oneself. In truth. The first thing, is to acknowledge, that individuation is a given fact. Not something to achieve. We may feel lost to who or what we are, but we are. And like anything that is, each distinct element, we are unique.
Being free, we assume that it is us playing the trumpet. But we are more trumpet, than trumpeter..
Actually, I do not see myself as a bare instrument. I am given. I may play. The whole recognition of the gift of being, is at the core of who we are. Our oneness is a path to understand that "who".
As I see it, the abyss, is everything else than what we recognize to be true.
... Time for a cookie
Huh?
@@martitinkovich4489 the mask etymology of persona refers probably to greek prosopon, meaning "to the view", a name given to the theatrical masks of the time.
@@martitinkovich4489 I fell asleep as well
@@bigboss-qv7pe This reminds me of Proust. Were you sleeping? The mother asked. I replied "no" while waking up. Strange things we leave falling in and out of sleep.
This explanation was so confusing. It felt like I was having a stroke. Like I was reading something perfectly understandable in terms of period structure, but couldn't take the meaning out of it, but I was glad to read some kind of sensible critique of Jung psychology, which is rare.
The writings of Marshall Vian Summers refer to these different aspects of the mind as personal or surface mind and Knowledge or Impersonal Mind. He writes "Knowledge represents your bond and your intrinsic relationship with all life. Knowledge is your connection to everything. Knowledge is the part of your mind that is spiritual and permanent.... You live life at two levels. You live life at the level at which you think, and you live life at the level at which you know. It is to bring you into life at the level at which you know that is the purpose of true religion in all of its forms. This reunites you with your Creator and with your greater purpose for being in the world. This brings you back to Knowledge, for God can only be known." (Greater Community Spirituality, MVS)
I heard of someone who told to love God..
Thank you for sharing this here. I have looked into Mr. Summers work and was genuninely blown away by it. For me the work he has brought into the world confirmed all that I could feel was true about life, but then added dimensions I could never have imagined. I am convinced humanity has the potential to become a free and compassionate race thanks if more people studied "The Steps to Knowledge".
Thank you, Janice.
The picture at the all night cafe is a classic. An emptiness with the individual with his back to us. What is his persona? What is his inner self? I think he must have two personas. His attire makes me think he must engage with people as part of his job, but here he appears unengaged.
Your answers reside in the mind of the now passed artist.
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Good video. Ive been an absence persona for a long time now and....its almost impossible to survive in society
sometimes when doing DMT, i would experience the obliteration of the self, the death of the ego and being reborn as a pure consciousness. the feeling that one gets during this is indescribable. its amazing to experience.
i wanna start doing DMT when i turn 25, do u have any advice? at all?
I agree my experience with dmt has been the same
you can do that without dmt but it can take awhile to develop that subconscious program*
I experienced that with a lot of shrooms
@@thomaseriksen6885 dude is not even a bot lmao
I have heard and comprehended every word, and it’s shredded my avoidance of my solution. All of this can be summed by saying, “Walk your own path.”
My true self is the only part of me that wants to grow because life itself is will to power.
Nicely done! I am currently in the process of doing some shadow work… It is humbling and empowering at the same time.
"Psychic equilibrium," fucking fantastic. Thank you
I have been listening to you often, I find the topics highly relevant to my state of being. Thank you.
Love your vids man, your soothing unique voice helps me take in whats being said
I don't know who you are, but your videos are invaluable. Thank you for sharing them with us. Merry Christmas!
i’m glad to have discovered this channel! it’s on par with other great ones such as Einzelganger, i hope to see your channel blow up even more this year
it’d also be cool if you could make a video on Alan Watts too and explore the philisophies he talked about in his lectures, it’s amazing to see more people talk about these subjects more
I would add - you could look up Alan Watts on UA-cam-😊
thank you so much for this video. i think you just changed my life!
Personas are necessary to simply get through life in a civilized fashion. They can become dysfunctional but they're simply a part of being human, as natural as breathing.
bruh,you had Yosuke Hanamura as ur pfp.That is crazy
Incredible description of the persona! One question that always arises in me when studying Jung is whether or not he would consider himself to be a psychiatrist/psychoanalyst, philosopher, writer, etc. or if he considered these to be personas? How does one distinguish between a known purpose of the self and a persona when we're inevitably interacting with the outside world?
Can Occupation/ Career Choice belong in same box as Persona? And Purpose? Am just curious.
In my view both are okay. Underlying both expressions, you might say, is a basic need to belong or to feel okay.
They say we got three faces or masks (persona)
One public
One private
One secret
Some of us, simply cannot be put in a box.
And? We are one!
2:09 there is another option you missed, and it's probably the most common...
4. In private, live without persona. In public, create or draw from memory personae that suit the moment. To prevent any kind of multiple personality disorder or similar, it would be important to only alter the way you present yourself while maintaining your true opinions, principles, and morals. What you present is real, but the way you present is drastically altered. For example, how you conduct yourself at a job interview versus at a drinking session with friends.
I'm not saying it's the right option or a healthy option, I'm saying it's quite possibly the most common.
This Channel is so underrated. It is redicolous. I love your content so much. thank you!
The Art in this is Incredible.
You make some of the best content on UA-cam. Absolutely fascinating stuff. Your voice is also smooth like butter 🍞😀
Great timing. I was just thinking about this idea of persona
Indicative of a rich inner discourse. You may very well know yourself.
This was a really great explanation of the Persona! Great video as always.
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Wow man. Thank you very much for this video and your channel. It is really giving me a broader perspective about all these concepts. For years I thought I have already figured it all out about this, until I started to ask myself some questions and read Jung's works (which is not an easy task I should say, but your way of explaining in your own words makes it so much easy to digest the information).
Lovely video. Can't get enough of Jung.
1:55 ego is not necessary. It really is an illusion., once true reality has been realised. Ego is actually an activity of self contraction. It’s like pinching oneself, pinching one’s true self. If we didn’t pinch, if we didn’t live like a clenched fist, then we would be enlightened. To live like an open hand. Is liberation from all of our egoic nonsense. See Adi Da.
Well said. Animals identify and are controlled by Ego.
i was aware of the existence of personas but i never understood why people do that.
i theorize that i have some kind of inability or inhibition to form a persona.
i can (after decades of thoughtful and concious training) act nicer than i actually am but i notice that i'm uncomfortable doing it. and i'm always relieved when i can drop the act.
i think that's where my extreme selectiveness in terms of people i want to spend time with as opposed to i find exhausting comes from. maybe the former are people who feel similar, who don't like to fake being someone they aren't while also having a personality similar to mine. you could imagine the number of these is extremly small.
this also may very well be the reason why so many people i tried to interact with throughout my youth thought i was weird but couldn't tell me why.
i think it's weird that being genuine is perceived as weird.
Very, very awesome video, thank you. It’s a great introduction to carl jung’s work. I will share it with my better half. I think inner work is equal to happiness if done consciously. 😊
As someone who was diagnosed with PDD as a child, I knew nothing was wrong with me. Only others wanted to pretend/conform more than I wanted to. I liked being myself and let me emotions be what they were. The only thing that was different was that I didn't express them in a way that made others happy. I was true to myself. Always continue to look within, most answers are there. Pretending just makes things more difficult, find your path.
I love your channel, I feel you really stimulate our thinking and provoke a deep awareness. I thank you 😇🙏 great video and content.
thank you for this video it is a fantastic filtering down on such a complex behaviour set.
The art work called "Archetypes" is for some unknown reason greatly important to me. There are three wagers on the table, yet four players. Who wagered the cross and beads ( perhaps a Crucifix?) . Who did not wager and yet still plays? So many possible answers, truly a great meditation!!!
I’ve always been in a conflict with my self because I thought the person who ppl around me think I am has nothing to what truly I am or at least to how truly I see myself and now after watching this video I understand that it’s not my fault but that my surrounding that is expecting too much from me and what lead me to create this persona that fit with what they want but has nothing to do with me. It’s just feel good and weird to know about that I feel peaceful because I don’t blame myself anymore for that and also I feel like I get closer to understand myself it’s like I am able now to see the line that differentiate between who am i and my persona
good for you, man
It's not too much fun to know yourself too well or think you do - everyone needs a little conceit to carry them through and past the falls.
........stuff like this seems scary or something.
Conscience cannot grasp the mind completely, as it is contained in it, it can only grasp portions of it, and only if it is small enough. Else, it over identifies with the contents it's trying to grasp and loses itself. (Like Nietzsche)
@@andredelacerdasantos4439 ......did nietzsche lose himself?
Well, he had a psychological meltdown at the very least, and Jung said it was because he overidentified with the contents of the unconscious.
@@mippim8765 he did, he had a mental breakdown at the age of 45 I think.
This ties into the notion of a true name. A name that reflects one’s true nature and is likely only known or even suspected by oneself. I’ve been doing the work this video has talked about especially shadow and archetypes for most of my life. I’ve always wanted to understand people’s true nature, the pretense isn’t interesting. That is why I find most people uninteresting because they don’t know themselves and believe illusion and chase abstraction. I find Jung to be a surpassingly deep thinker and communicator. I hope his work can hold my attention for a few months (I tend to read things again over the years however my mind consumes knowledge like an inferno)
The deadliest demon vanquishing. Watch out. On taking my last 2 week vow of honesty, instead of battling demons, I was surrounded by dust & there were none. When the dust settled I saw the ground was covered with little turtle shells & they were light & I could pick them up & kick them around. They went by names "Shannon Doherty", "Phoebe" (from friends), & Winona Ryder & others I'd walked into parties looking like (because, who likes being looked at when they walk into parties right?). I thought they were harmless to move, but they're not. You deal with them very very carefully. For that real estate, you chance being killed. Take it easy with those masks you wear.
Great video. So thankful for these 🙏
Thank you for all the great stuff that you put out. I really appreciate it!😊
Thank you Lord for the my life with Jesus! God Bless 🙏🏻
Thank you lord jesus for creating atomic bombs, world wars, starvation, cancer, HIV, and even parasites that lay eggs in peoples brains that once hatched eat away at peoples brains from the inside. Such kind god you are
Thank you so much for these beautiful informative videos.
I really learned a lot after watching this. Great video
This was so good and ended so perfectly
The persona is also the cool creature fighting shadows for me
these videos feel illegal bro, way too good
Thank you for this video.
People don't have ideas, ideas have people
Wonderful channel, nothing more to say.
I usually adapt the joker/jester persona amongst my close long time friends, I'm a bit insecure on the fact that I'm the only one who went to university..so I sometimes make it a point to make inappropriate jokes about serious topics whenever they come up, usually dismissing it with a joke..followed by some snarky comment about how nothing really matters in the world.
We all are forever in the process of trying to find meaning in the world 🌎. And by doing so we have the will to carry on.
The persona is our social behavioural self. The true self is our ‘myself’ when you are alone is when you can be you.
But when you really think about it.. nothing about you could be what it is without other. From physical reality to your genes to your stimulation, language, attitude..and for the very reason that you are even talking right now..is dependently connected to other people and environment. Imo, your self that everyone is talking about is actually, in truth, analogous to a black hole.
That’s not how being your true self works.Growing up as a child I’ve always been my self and was my happiest doing so till I was in 5th grade.I began to build a persona and the longer the time passed the more angry and upset I was because I wasn’t being myself and I didn’t even realise it I just thought I was just a moody person.Covid then hit and it gave me time to look into myself and my older bro helped me out after Covid to be myself and meet ppl whilst being myself.It was a hard journey but I finally embrace my inner child and true self
But even though I am my true self outside of school I still act the same towards the ppl I portrayed my persona too idk why but it’s like my soul doesn’t want to show my best true self to these ppl so I always feel lonely in school but I try to think about my friends and the memories I made outside of school to keep pushing
Persona is only made through conditioning and its bad because your true self could be very energetic and outgoing like myself but your persona could be introverted and quiet which is myself in school and it drains me so everyone must strive to be their true self.Being your true self doesn’t mean that you going to express everything you can still express yourself appropriately without weirding ppl out which is where social skills come in
@@Luca_683that's healthy that your best doesn't want to give itself away.
Great video and excellent channel, reminds me of an early Academy of Ideas. 💯
Brilliant video 💫
An excellent look at individuation.
i always felt like i dont know who i am. and then, after years of years of trying to please everyone and fitting into society and doing "important" work, i had like some sort of mental breakdown. i cracked, and now i feel like am gone. like, i still dont know who i am, nor do i recognize who i was. but somehow, it doesnt matter. which is nice.
Realising that you are nothing but energy that is your existence the external is not important it’s freedom
Thank you for the great information ❤ and light 😉 Merry Christmas 🎄
Very well made video here, congratulations on your efforts!
Why meditation is necessary. A way to go “out there” without totally jumping in with no way back. Almost all fear the abyss as they are not ready for what they may find.
"People don't have ideas, ideas have people."
If you're reading this before watching the full video , I suggest you prepare your heart and mind !
For I do not exist: there exist but the thousands of mirrors that reflect me. With every acquaintance I make, the population of phantoms resembling me increases. Somewhere they live, somewhere they multiply. I alone do not exist.
Streams
the Rona mask perfectly portrayed the mask of the collective psyche. the perfect apocalypse.
Where I'm at in my life journey..
Painting picture's with words, living my life like art.
Persona is an inevitability due to social influence, we can't avoid it! but since we're living due to these influences, when did we first recognise it, how often do we consider it and when was the last time we approached it? And even then... how can we be sure of the real us in the end? Because if we're on this road of self discovery, we begin by seeking self improvement initially which means we embrace essential change, so where does the change end? It doesn't! so we are in a perpetual circle of change for self improvement to which the persona and true self ever have to adapt, it's a constant of life, just embrace what you are as you go on in search of the betterment of the self.
this artwork in this video is all very interesting. where did you find all of this? would love to look through more stuff like this.
Great video !
Peoples don’t have ideas, ideas have people’s
The shadow self is so incredibly complicated and interesting. I have done about 6 years total of therapy where I revealed this shadow and uncovered a part of it.... but even though I THINK I can always recognize my shadow coming out ..... sometimes it just takes over. Psychology is endlessly fascinating and I desperately wish I felt I had the time to go get a degree... I'm only 28 but with the economy it really feels too late or just kinda hopeless for me.... this is also a shadow coming out... crazy stuff
Dude, I’m 39, going back to school. Raised my kids, still married, just want to make myself have a different use now that I’m past one stage going into another.
Find balance somewhere.
I work and still have many chores
Is going to be slow .
Don’t let complete societal collapse stop you from making yourself useful.
This is so true thank you
Im so glad UA-cam recommended your video to me, great channel you can be sure I'm gonna sub and recommend you
I want to congratulate you for your amazing videos. Keep making them, please.
Off topic, but in the image at 8:54, Death is betting his hourglass, the angel the cross, the naked woman the flower. I may be overanalyzing, but is the buddhist monk betting no-thing?
I look forward to my Restoration and Individuation 💚🙏
Great content 👍
THAT WAS INTERESTING!!!
It'll be hard to abandon my persona... To do so would be to completely bask in the evils that plague my heart and mind....
I CANT HOLD IT
YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING
YOU SAID
THAT MY MIND IS TO FAST FOR YOUR EYES
YOU'RE DONE IN
BY THE TIME IT HITS YOU,
YOUR LAST SURPRISE
Crazy how I learned all of this as a young teenager and that video explains why I am seeing people so differently than everyone else. I always see their true self. And most people are just NPCs thats very... dystopian