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Honest Opinions of the Indian Challenger from a Harley Fan
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2019
- In this weeks Moto-vlog I ride the 2020 Indian Challenger around for the day providing you with my thoughts on the bike as well some of its specs. If you haven't already, like, subscribe & comment below what you think!
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THE FIRST FRAME-MOUNT FAIRING was on a '77 BMW R100RS.
It was designed in a
"WIND-TUNNEL," by
Hans Muth.
I had one.
John Spencer
Long Beach, Ca.
Awesome insights John!
I think bmw was the first with a fixed fairing, then honda i know harley had one in 1980
Great video! Really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on this bikes 👍👍. Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to test one myself.
RickyNotSoMartin You will absolutely love the bike, I must say, the new engine is pretty impressive! Try to hop on one of the Dark Horse or Limited Challengers so you can experience the upgraded abs/traction control technology.
You’re correct, that is a base so no electronic package, if you get the Limited or Dark Horse, you get the lean sensitive ABS IMU & ride modes. Limited comes w/ engine guards, Indian now has lower close out accessories you can add. Test rode a Challenger straight off my Road Glide Special M8, cammed, staged & tuned, stock Challenger was noticeably quicker, handled better & had better Brembos. Harleys trim fit n finish was nicer, but power & handling are far apart
There is more than a hint of jealousy from the retractors of this very good Indian motorcycle. Being a fan boy of any motorcycle company clouds your judgement of opposition products and you look through rose colour glasses at the bikes your favourite company produces.
Peter Peter I am not biased towards any company, in fact I used to work for Harley and currently own a kawasaki.
GenZ Biker sorry, I was not referring to you, I was commenting on the 2 people you mentioned in your video who were criticising the Challenger. I thought your review was quite balanced. 👍
Peter Thanks for the support, I appreciate your subbing my channel! Is there any video topics you’d like to suggest?
BBQ Nut nothing wrong with the Victory Magnum it is a wonderful bike.
But
Magnum has a batwing fairing, the Challenger has a frame mounted fairing.
Magnum has a 21 inch front wheel, the challenger 19inch
Magnum front fork rake 29 degree, Challenger 25 degree
Magnum oil & air cooled, Challenger liquid cooled
Magnum rider modes nil, Challenger 3
Magnum no traction control, challenger yes
Motor performances, chalk and cheese
Both great bikes.
@BBQ Nut I have a Magnum and this is not a rebadged Magnum although it is a Vic design which started off as a 180 horsepower engine and the sheer power was blowing out crank cases. Its been in development for 5 years or so. the RoadGlide, Challenger, Magnum are all great bikes, but Harley has its work cut out for them and I'm sure they will rise to the occasion
I enjoyed the demo ride I did on the bike. The motor feels like my scout engine. The way it revs and the sound of the motor. The bike felt great at low speed which surprised me but man when you twist the throttle it has major balls.
Good video man.
F.N.G Moto Glad to hear you had fun & enjoyed my video, thanks for tuning in!
F.N.G Moto I agree! I was finally able to demo one this past Saturday as well as the FTR 1200S race model. People who out here hating should really demo the Challenger and then they'll understand and very possibly have a different opinion. This bike truly is like NO other bike in its class.
South Georgia Indian Rider man I want to ride the FTR so bad. I just can’t get comfortable straddling it. Being a noob comfort is important for me. I don’t have enough riding experience to deal with that.
F.N.G Moto If you really want to ride it And you are worried about feeling comfortable on it due to throttle response, simply place the FTR are in rain mode as it limits the throttle response and power to the engine!
GenZ Biker the height is what makes it a bit uncomfortable for me. I’m 5”7 so the seat hits me in an uncomfortable spot lol. Thanks for the tip on the ride modes.
The Metzler tires on this bike you can buy for any bike they are not exclusive to the Indian challenger. To many miss leading information on that. The horse power and torque is claimed to be to the ground. Once tunes and performance parts are made for it the sleeping beast will be a great power house.
Greg Durkee As far as I know, they were developed specifically for this bike by metzler but obviously can be purchased for other bikes as well.
Metzeler stated that the Metzeler CRUISETEC is designed for heavy performance baggers. I saw them at a Metzeler's vendor booth at a bike show back in December 2018. I was impressed and had them installed on my Road Glide Special in January 2019. Great tires.
Harley was the first one to use the removable shark nose fairing that’s stand alone. On other bikes like the gold wing and vicaro there’s a lot to come off to remove the fairing, but the new challenger isn’t so new either. It was originally designed to be a victory that’s why the front light is in a v shape. I’d ride one maybe
Great video man
Good video. I'm considering this exact bike some time in March. I have to ride it first. Otherwise I'm also looking at a Chieftain.
Joe Scopa Where do you live? Definitely recommend test riding anything and everything similar in its class! I am not partial to any one brand and personal think every bike/manufacturer fits the rider differently 🙏🤙🏼
@@GenZBiker I'm in Boston. My bike for the past 7 years was a Triumph Thunderbird, but it was stolen back in September. I've ridden the Chieftain 111 and 116 and I've also ridden the Street Glide with the 107. I'm not keen on the HDs.. they just don't fit me right. I loved the Chieftain and was planning to buy one until the Challenger came out. Its getting so many great reviews that I need to ride it before I decide.
I rode the bike during demo days. Bike had gobs of power...but I just can't get past the looks. Everything is so, "blocky". It looks like it was put together with legos and plastic trim covering everything up. The dash had a cheap plastic look to it. I feel the HD Street Glide and Road Glide fit and finish is just better over all. I like the "machine" look of a Harley. The competition is great, and Indian makes a fine motorcycle, but my hat is off to the HD's still. There is also another video kicking about where the Challenger was dynoed and measured to the back wheel. While it performed better than a stock 114 M8, it was not heads and shoulders above.
I loved the review of the rider coming from his 114 m8 road glide.. rider was 325lbs.. the Indian broke traction and tore off while he was in 2nd gear.. when he cranked on throttle.. not modded.. no stage anything.. witch means to me not throwing thousands of $$at the bike after spending tens of thousands purchasing
The Indian has 33% more horsepower and 5% more torque than the 114 M8. If that horsepower difference ISN'T head and shoulders over a 114, then what IS?
2020 RGS hp/wt ratio = 11.2 lbs per HP
2020 Challenger hp/wt ratio = 8.2 lbs per HP
That ratio difference is literally the same difference between a V6 Mustang and a Mustang GT 5.0. So...you saying that the Mustang GT with a V8 isn't head and shoulders above a V6 model?
Matt S , like I said, it was a video kickin’ around UA-cam. Not necessarily related to this bike, but I do think that the “Ride Mode” gives a perceived feeling of power when twisting the throttle. Make no mistake, as I originally stated, this bike had gobs of power, but riding both bikes (117 M8 Roadglide), I personally felt the bikes were comparable. I think the ride mode of the Challenger made the biggest change in the “feel” of the power in the bike.
Not saying your wrong at all, just my opinion.
Happy Thanksgiving 👍
Nice fair review. I bought a 2010 Victory Vision Touring last summer after a 30 year hiatus from motorcycling. I am 6'5" tall and 290 lbs. I am amazed at the comfort and handling of the bike. I have never riden a Harley that can out corner it, and I have no prejudice against Harley. Polaris has deep pocket and are innovative. The new Indians are just an extension of what started with Victory. In the long run, it will be good for Harley. If you don't listen to your customers you will lose them. Maybe they will start listening!
Your personal opinion may matters to others but ultimately you as a buyer decide and ride what you love.
I have watched so many of same bike testing ride videos BUT I haven’t seen any one bought one yet ! Wonder why ?
Don Quixote I haven’t purchased cause im in college and have debt to pay. From what I’ve heard though, the challenger is selling like hot cakes right now and dealers can’t seem to keep them in stock.
All the Challenger models do not have lower wind guards. Hopefully they will come out with leather chaps for the engine guards eventually. If not I think I'll make a pair.
Can't wait to see the touring version.
What makes you think that this is not a touring bike?
servicarrider for sure you can tour on it.
I currently ride a Victory Vision and do all of my touring 'two up'.
I guess what I'm saying is a version with a touring passenger seat, heated front and rear seats, and a top trunk styled to match the bike like my Vision.
I really do like the platform Polaris has given us with this bike.
Outstanding chassis and engine along with a very refined set of electronics.
@@thegolfingmusician6345 My guess is all of the options you mentioned (heated touring seats and a matching trunk will become available for this bike. You can get them on the Chieftain.. so it only makes sense it'll come for this bike too.
I can't wait for a classic version with the skirted fenders and the classic Indian round top bags!
Dean Cory I wouldn’t count on it. This bike is a bit too modern looking for the skirted fenders.
Outstanding execution of motorcycle technology........thank you for your excellent commentary....!!......
Nice review. I'd love try this bike out. Thanks for sharing.
If you like Harleys you buy a Harley. If you don't you buy something else. Opinions and preferences.
Gregorio Im not biased towards any one brand. I previously worked for HD & also recently owned a sportster 48. Just because you like one bike, doesn’t mean it’s the only bike you’ll ride the rest of your life. I like pizza, but I wont eat it everyday the rest of my life, I want to experience other foods in my life!
For one to say the challenger is so much better than all the others, they should be able to explain
Just found u by looking up the challenger and gotta say like seeing motovlogers in fl and just saying wish I could afford any Indian lol
Clifford Maggard I actually live in Milwaukee wisconsin but I was down in Orlando for a weekend, check out the rest of my videos and make sure to subscribe!
I love the engine, not the body lines so much. I wonder if I could jam that engine into my Rode Glide :)
Have you ridden the Challenger yet? The power plus engine is an absolute blast! You shpuld stop by iMotorsports Inc in elmhurst and ride one if not.
Shark nose fairing you mean! Not shark wing! Or maybe you meant to say bat wing? Lol... glad you enjoyed the new challenger. I understand Indian is selling the heck out them. People know immediately when they are getting real value, I think Indian set the new standard with this new touring machine on a domestic level for sure. Technically speaking, HarleyDavidson is now in the rear view mirror.
Paul Healey Yeh I was combining the two names in my head whej filming this video. But yeh an amazing bike to say the least, definitely try & test ride one if you get an opportunity to do so!
so many included features like inverted front forks to Fox rear shock brembo brakes LED lights etc all the stuff that Harley never puts on their bikes stock or charges 40 Grand to get
Neil Brown It truly is an amazing, highly competitive option in the bagger market!
Indians are just too nice and powerful.
the bang for your buck buying an indian is incredibul!
What trim level.. if any yet..
Offers, lower wind management..
Heated seats/grips..saddle bag crash guard's..floorboards for passengers, and backrest
Mike Kosar Not sure Mike, go on Indians website and build one to your specs!
I really like this set up! The road glide faring looks kind of long in the tooth.
I think Indian has done a good job with the Challenger. However, I do think they should make the options on the Darkhorse available on the standard edition.
John Roth that defeats the purpose of having a lower priced standard edition
I was told by a dealer here in NY...they can put it on the way you want al a carte... you can order it that way hmmm I wonder about that
cedric lashar Nothing better than a custom ordered spec! Id love to do that someday. Stay safe out there biker bros! 🤙🏼
Can u make sharp turns without it scratching the gravel
Nicholas Cheap A good rider can scrape any bike, I can although say that the lean angle on this thing is pretty good and an average rider probably won’t scrape.
Nice bike 👍🏼
Indian’s always been a performance driven company. This bike’s engine is built for performance and is like the BMW K1600B and it’s interpretation of what a Touring Bagger should look and perform like. Indian with a huge 320mm brake rotors and 4 piston Brembo’s, to it’s inverted fork, all reflect Sports bike features. An electric windscreen and water cooled are long overdue elements to an evolved Touring bike. Demand from “the people” who have spoken clearly what was missing. Indian has listened. Well done Indian. Naysayers, there will always be. Change is slow but change will happen. Harley Davidson is an American icon, but...got got way too comfortable. Ride safe, ride often. “Life’s short, just buy the bike”.
How the hell is it better than a stock Harley without saying which Harley model you're referring too? What Harley did you test ride to form your opinion?
Its better than ALL Harley D's Hows that. ? Ill say my piece on this. I have more miles backing out of my garage in January than most of you have total. So I can say I know my shit without issue. Harley hasnt made a good bike since 1966. They have been living off a reputation of a sound and shit performance since. They are trying to do a little bit right but sorry to say it isnt enough and way to late. When you go buy a brand new evo and the base gaskets are blown out because the jugs are warped from junk spin cast methods how long do you think it will be before people say fuck off. I know how old I am and the originals are all but gone. So nothing left but the posers wannbies and they are all in the late 40s and thrown in the towel. If you really ride ? Like 14k a year minimum. A Harley is the last bike you consider. Being on two wheels is a choice of transportation. If you want to pose by all means buy one and spend what you want. Personally there is no comparison. And anyone who says different just wants to lie to save what they have which is ?? well shit they sell you junk for way to much and you still want to turn a blind eye to the crap they have sold you for so long.? Sounds to me like they are a lot smarter than the customers they have. ..LOL
@@ednorton1853 Yet you haven’t answered shit about your experience with a Harley that challenger is competing with.Yes it’s fast, but you haven’t said to prove it’s otherwise light years more advance. You may want to take a look at what a 2020 Harley touring bike has to offer before putting your foot in your mouth. By the way, Harley is 5th out of 10 in the most reliable brand. CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THAT CHALLENGER FIT’S IN?
duane howard I used to work for HD, I’ve ridden all the new touring bikes from a street glide, to road glide to an Ultra CVO. Obviously the road glide is what I was comparing the challenger to being it is the only HD with a fixed fairing. And not to say you’re stupid or not paying attention butttt.... did you actually watch the entire video. This whole video was me discussing the road glide and the reasons why I like this better 🤷🏽♂️. Anyways thanks for watching and I hope you got something out of the video!
Ed Norton Thanks for tuning into the video, hope you enjoyed and got something out of it. Sounds like you are a pretty die hard Indian fan. I love Indian & also love HD as I used to work for them. Can’t deny the new 20 HD’s are a fun ride and I like lots of things about them. I try not to be partial entirely towards one specific brand in hopes of maintaining credibility for my viewers. Anyways what do you ride right now?
@@GenZBiker No not really an Indian fan . I get annoyed at times how die hard Harley guys go blind to the junk Harley put out and still sit and say they wont change knowing how may times they have broke down, got raped by the dealer and paid more than anyone should ever pay for a bike. One thing for sure know one can say the HD riders are not faithful. It just kills me to see guys spend all that cash and get junk. If they ever rode a good bike they would really flip. Im a fan of any bike someone builds themselves first and foremost. And if just 2 out of 8 took the same amount of cash and had a simple cruiser done with a S&S motor and any well sorted frame with good Brembo's and suspension the ride quality would be night and day. Not to mention rock solid dependability and stopping. Now there are Harleys that run, run well and are dependable but the real ones are pretty old now. I had a 71 xlch with a weld on rear hard tail section and a 45 springer. No front brake rear juice only. I put 33k on it in two years in MICH. The friggin pot holes on Southfield were so bad if you hit one you would change lanes. I never had 1 mechanical break down. I had the rear strut rattle lose on one side. thats all. But 99% of that is knowing how to build them. You can make most of them stay together but it takes time and experience. If you dedicated guys would quit buying them they would be forced to build a better bike. I promise you they can, but they dont need to because they sell all the make. Quick story, my neighbor was a 1% I have had every thing you can think of once prolly. Suzy's Hondas, Bridgestones, Yam, Every year on xmas morning me and a few of my buddies go to breakfast on our bikes. This particular year was very cold. I cant remember but safe to say it was 20 or less at 8 am x-mas morning in Mi. I hit the start button on my CB 900 custom Honda. and the oil sounds like 90 w glue. So Im all bundled up I roll it into the street and start pushin,... hard. Get it rollin and jump up slam my scrawny ass down and dump the clutch. It gently skids to a stop. Didnt even turn it over. I get my breath and get ready to do it again. My neighbor is on his porch brown bath robe and hair. I though it was big foot for a second. he is standing there with a jump box and extension cord. he says you want to jump that thing? I said yea and one of your buddies will happen by see you jumping this and may shoot both of us. He says yea id like to see that. He says you have more miles backing out of your driveway in Jan than these new guys got total. he said remember its not what you ride, its if you ride period. I said then there are the stupid ones who dont own a car. He said maybe you will get one for xmas. He was a very cool guy Rip Deck.
I I lovveee this bike but not sure if I would trade my springfield for it. I love my detachable windscreen
I rode a RoadGlide Special at Milwaukee Harley and a Chieftain Dark Horse at Indian of Metro Milwaukee on the same day, I chose the Chieftain but I for sure would have preferred a Challenger if they'd been out yet.
Trade up for the chally!
@@GenZBiker Eventually. Not that easy to rotate $27k bikes...
I would like that grey but with blacked out pipes and hardware
I agree, I’m not a huge fan of chrome!
Oh man there's a cop ... lmao . Sweet bike
Dodged a bullet! Thanks for supporting the GenZ Biker Vlog, drop video suggestions below please my fellow biker bro. 👏🏼🤙🏼
Just got my 2020 challenger in red...unfortunately I live in northern Minnesota where we have two feet of snow...looks like I’ll need to take a road trip south to ride her
MACurtis That’s amazing! I live in milwaukee and fortunately no snow with higher temps lately but I definitely know where you’re coming from! Which trim did you get?
Limited....I can’t wait to ride it! Sometimes ya northern boys can’t catch a break
How bout that modified c3 , not much luggage space but some damn good ground control and by the looks of the outside , I'm guessing that thing sucks gas and gets from point , passes point be and laps point z wow
evil_muscle muscled yeh haha pretty sweet vette
Hey sir, would you be interested in talking about ABATE of Wisconsin?
What’s that?
@@GenZBiker ABATE of Wisconsin is a State Motorcyclist's Rights Organization in WI. The focus is safety, education, an laws that take motorcyclists into account. At age 43 I'm one of the younger people in the org, so it'd be amazing to talk to you to see how we keep our fight for freedom of the road alive.
Sure man, shoot me an email GenZBiker@gmail.com
HD is like an iphone. There are much better phones on the market, but people very often choose iphone because of excellent marketing of Apple inc. PS i am Kawi h2sx owner, different league anyway
Fast5. Ru A supercharged moose! I love the classic green and carbon colored H2
GenZ Biker Love my bike. Lightning fast and comfortable
I'm getting ready to trade my Fatboy in on a Road Glide but the technology Indian is throwing in those bikes ... incredible . I'm really thinking this over
Do yourself a favor and go test ride it. You either pay your dues to join the Harley fraternity or you educate yourself on the underdog & try to understand the value of what you get in an indian 👍🔥
@@GenZBiker thanks buddy
The Harley will fare very poorly up against this Indian, they really are light years ahead in most ways, all the ones that count. So to reiterate do yourself a favor & test ride one & help let the secret out
Thanks for reminding me why to never buy a demo bike. Way to red line the shit out of it. Big ass engine? It's cubic inches is smaller than the other cruiser models in the Indian line up. Definitely a high performance engine.
Amazing Motorcycle can't wait to get mine
Which trim are you looking at? I rode the standard and was even impressed with that! Drop video suggestions below for future uploads please! 👏🏼🤙🏼
@@GenZBiker I got the standard one, very happy with my decision, $30k lot for me lol
Shark wing? Polaris should come out with a bat nose model next year.
Coming from being a Road Glide owner the challenger was a different
type of ride although it’s a Vtwin
It road very smooth which I didn’t
Prefer I mean I’m used to the vibration from a Hog and the pipes on the challenger are real quiet but most people change to a more aggressive
Pipes I could go on but to those who read it’s a nice bike but it’s no
Road Glide and I’m not trying to sound biased I truly feel HD has to just makes some better features and they should be alright. P.S If you can go test ride one and give your feedback so Ride hard and safe.
Bought a new classic had so many issues with it.fatboy same thing.bought a new goldwing loved that bike.traded it in for a dark horse challenger.so far so good.
I loved it as well 🙏
Think a tuner and exhaust is worth it on this bike
@@kevinstockman8866 I just got a ‘21 Challenger Limited and I can honestly say I’m totally happy with just slip ons. I never thought I’d say this, but power wise I’m totally happy right where its at out of the box. This has never happened before on any American bikes I’ve owned. It’s all about the water cooling and overhead cams. Allows Indian to deliver big power and keep the EPA happy.
Wait , your a Harley fan but ride a Kawasaki !
I have a kawasaki er6n 650, and used to have a sportster 48 when I previously worked for Harley! Loved my sportster, it was a 2015 🙏🤙🏼
Joseph Marton What are you confused about? You seem shocked
Joseph Marton I no longer have the sportster as of a couple months ago, just didn’t wanna have to deal with parking for 2 bikes & a truck as well. But yeh, I have appreciation for many different manufacturers! Your garage sounds like an awesome hangout space, I’d love to ride your Kawi!
My heart lusts after these Indian motorcycles. But my brain worries about things like proprietary tires. For one, they can charge whatever they want for replacements (ever see the prices of their accessories?). And, two, you cant even be sure replacements will even be available.
When you buy a car do you always use the factory tire when they need to be replaced? No! Use what ever tire you want. Just because they made this tire specific to the design of this bike doesn’t mean other tires won’t work! I highly recommend you give it a shot & go for a test ride 🙏🤙
GenZ Biker I think Indian uses their own sizes, though. If standard tires work, then no problem. But a dealer told me the Chief Vintage uses custom sizes. I don’t know. Hopefully that’s wrong.
You can use any tire on any Indian as long as it fits the wheel! In fact, Ive ridden an FTR at a dealer that had street tires on it as opposed to the dual sport type dunlop s pattern tires from the factory.
GenZ Biker That’s great news. I’m looking through the Indian Discussion Forum and I think you’re right. I think I had misunderstood “proprietary tire” to mean “proprietary size”, whereas he may have just meant the thread or materials were unique to Indian but the size is standard. I didn’t want to have to ride on the rims if Indian dropped support. My checking account may be in trouble again. 😅
JTroskaTV I feel you there man! I’m itching to buy a second bike to add to my stable and put next to my Kawi Er-6n 650 naked!
11:20 LOL....I didn't know sharks have wings......
THE ROAD GLIDE IS A GOLDWING RIP OFF, as early as 1970s
Lmao HD may have copied the fairing but you cant deny that the Goldwings are ugly as all hell while road glides have some style. Goldwing is the saggy grandfather to the others in its class
@@GenZBiker ride the new one, harleys are clapped out relics for guys who have ED
@@GenZBiker The fairing on the Road Glide looks like an after thought hanging off over the front of the bike and was introduce by HD in 1980. The Indian looks better. Gold Wing is a saggy grandfather? When was the last time you rode a GW? You think the Challenger has power for a bagger. You better take a ride on a BMW K1600B, then you will be on a bagger with power. And the Challenger, 103 rwhp, about the same as a Wing, only the 2018 + Wing is lighter.
Robb S I understand goldwings are a nice ride, im referring to their styling. As a young individual id never be caught dead on one. They look elongated and saggy. Hd, bmw, indian all look and feel the part of performance baggers
Lawn Ranger The goldwings look ugly in my opinion. They look saggy & elongated. I’d never buy it based on looks. That said i totally understand they are extremely comfortable
good job
No but the saddle bags are HD clones!
HP & TQ #’s you’re stating are at the Crank not the rear wheel. Harley always lists their stats at the Rear Wheel not the Crank !
Wrong. Number one Harley never publishes HP numbers and two the TQ numbers are at the crank NOT the wheel. No manufacturer list figures from the wheel. Those figures are lower and would look bad.
I believe it's an Indian Challenger, not an Indian Motorcycle Challenger!!! Just sayin!
shuff1111 Indian Motorcycle is the name of the company just as Harley’s official name is Harley-davidson motor company.
@@GenZBiker Roger that..just mess in with ya....although I wouldn't say Harley Davidson Motor Company Road Glide.....lol!!!
It’s a Polaris challenger haha
@@stevexaxa3619 Point taken, but you wouldn't call it a Harley Davidson Lightning or a Harley Davidson Blast.....those were Buells.
Harley has actually owned a lot of other business like MV Agusta, Cagiva.
They even owned a boat company and Holiday Rambler motorhomes....all those were never called by the Harley name......so even though Polaris bought Indian, it is still called an Indian Challenger!!!😁
I agree it’s as nice looking as a dogs behind... they say hp at the back wheel is like 103... I’m sure it’s a fine bike if you like it I went with road glide limited 2020 for me it’s much better looking.... there are 8 color options for road glide limited 3 for the Polaris limited... I wanted the tour pack and lowers no option on the Polaris... I do have the rdrs it might put run the road glide but I have road across country already two up loaded heavy and always had plenty of power 90+ down the interstate... you’ll not get as good of a sound... because over head cams don’t sound as good no matter the maker
Love the dogs behind comment, your mother said the same thing the day ou were born.
Polaris Indian or Polaris Victory, both were/are better than H-D.
You say Polars like its a bad thing, but Polaris is more valuable that Harley. Grow up man, the Challenger is a beautiful bike and far more stock performance and you are just upset because you are a harley idiot that is too closed minded and threatened by other models that are better.
Snake Bite haha well that’s an opinion from a guy who is... I mean has a ahole... you know everyone has one... buy your Polaris and sit home while the dealership and factory tries to work out the bugs like they do with all the others you can say what you want but there is not a fact or statistic in the world to support what you said
Personally as a longtime long-distance Rider I need a decent dealer Network this is a problem
What is the biggest advantage of the dealer network?
Where are you located? Theres a pretty decent amount of Indian Dealers near me in the midwest!
The indian dealer community is pretty welcoming and always seems to be very helpful & honest when it comes to servicing their products. Can’t speak on behalf of ownership but from what I have seen it’s a pretty solid network.
What are you talking about! Indian has dealers anywhere there is an adequate amount of people to support it! I think over 200 now! All Harley fan boys say this crap!
jim wortham you only need a dealer network if you’re On A bike that breaks down a lot lmao.
Motor specs are great. I'm sure it's a phenomenal motor (Victory always made GREAT motors). I'm not a fan of the asthetics of the bike but the motor will make it worth considering (I'm an Indian guy btw) but DAMN IT NEEDS PIPES!! It just sound awful. will probably be fine with an aftermarket exhaust... But man it sounds like shit.
Keewee daddy girl, the Challenger sounds much better than a road glide in comparing the two. That said I do agree in that it definitely needs a set of pipes!
The Road Glide’s OEM exhaust note is less desirable than the Challenger’s. Aftermarket pipes will enhance the note on either bike.
Indian uses the word, "standard" on a lot of their niceties, whereas Harley doesnt know what the word means........Harley's favorite words, " you can get that as an option" $$$$$$
haha so true! You want cruise control on your softail? Thatll be an extra $900 😂🔥
You know your winning when all hard Facts are ALL on your side, and the old standard resorts to name calling, and crying "copy". lol. you don't see Dodge,Ford or Chevy crying copycat, they Innovate and make better products to compete.
It truly is an amazing bike
Dude seriously? It's shark nose not shark wing. There's shark nose and bat wing.
Lmao i know... i messed up. Happens to the best of us. Riding in a new environment on a new bike distracted me a bit too much.
Words are hard.
If it was styled like a victory I would buy it, I just hate the looks of it...
Thought this guy was a Harley fan and he owns a Kawasaki. WTF
Used to work for Harley and also used to have a ‘15 sportster 48! Got rid of it recently though. Kawi was my first bike I had ever purchased.
All for only $27,000 dollars!
$22k for the standard! Thats just a few thousand more than a Harley softail model 🙏
The closest HD equivalent is the SG CVO...$35k plus
Love indian and the idea of this bike, just looks a bit boxy, and body designs generally don’t age well.
the only reason Matt Laidlaw is a whining about this bike is that it blows the Road Glide away on just about every single category!!! And is stealing riders away from Harley Davidson.
The windshield has to go. Looks like Shit
Million reviews and nothing about handling just speed seriously corners are all that matter
If I had twisties to take it on I’d tell you about it unfortunately milwaukee doesn’t have a whole lot of twisties! There are definitely some out there though, do more research!
The dark horse chally loves the twisties, i feel like its got a sportsbike suspension and rides like a caddy. Awesome bike
I'm totally disappointed with my 2021 Indian Challenger. Disappointed with Indian because it has horrible customer support and they have 20% availability with inventory. You can't buy parts and accessories because everything is out of stock. I'll be selling my Challenger as soon as possible!!!
Wear good leather chaps
No need for leather chaps when you have Pandomoto.com riding jeans! They have armour in the knees and are made of a material called dyneema which is 15x’s stronger than steel. Essentially they are rip proof jeans. Ill try to make a video about them for ya, stay tuned & ride safely 🤙🏼
Definitely a shameless RoadGlide copy. Glad that they did it cuz the RoadGlide has always been an awesome machine and now H-D will up there game and make the RoadGlide even better.
Dash is terrible
What don’t you like about it?
GenZ Biker Just doesn’t flow well. Looks broken and had limited handlebar options.
Road glide copy cat , be more creative indian
This is a Harley knockoff if there ever was one.
Skierxman lol not even remotely. Watch the entire video and you’ll see why!
@@GenZBiker Come on dude. This is clearly a knockoff of the road glide. Look, I cant stand the Road Glide and the only Harley I like is the Road KIng. But this is hands down a knockoff of the road glide. Period. End of story. Spin it any way you want. Indian saw the ROad Glide was extremely popular and attempted to emulate it.
Skierxman HD Road Glide,
Yamaha Star Eluder, Kawasaki Vacaro, Honda Goldwing all have the same style fairings. HD wasnt the first to do it. Indian is simply sticking with times and the rest of the industry. Have you ridden the challenger yet? It’s not even remotely similar in terms of styling to the RG.
@@GenZBiker HD was the first to have the Shark Nose fairing design. They also were the first to have the batwing fairing with the old electra glide in 1969. I cannot stand bikes with fairings(might as well get a convertible) of any kind or make. I also am not a hardcore HD fanatic. I own a Honda Gold Wing, A Suzuki VStrom, a HD Road KIng. I have had many other bikles over the eyars , both HD and others. Jsut calling it like I see it. I have been around for a while and first got into riding in the 70's. A lot of manufacturers do copy what HD does when it becomes popular.
@@Skierxman one could easily say Harley copied the shark nose fairing from Craig Vetter, which was called the "Windjammer" which I first had on my bike in 1974. Kawasaki also put a similar fairing on their police bikes in 1980.