The best part piece of advice that dr.k gave through the entire video, is that if you keep on trying to better yourself, you will never be content with who you are
hmmm.......I disagree but....also agree. I see what message he tried to say but you should almost always tro be to better, and by better doesnt mean change, it can literally mean just get better in some activity, hobby, knowledge et.
@@veryfinan5187 I know, I took his argument in a little different direction, but I see his point that you should be proud of who you are and what you can do. This idea of always improving yourself in order to become "perfect" can be dangerous since nobody is perfect (even if they have an idea of what perfect is) and can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle.
Its okay to see how you can be better as long as you accept you for the way you are right now. Be patient with yourself. Edit: I actually got at that part in the video and it hit me in the feelz too. It is so true that you naturally get better with experience and not by judging yourself... if you do things by your sense of duty for people you then feel you gave what you were able to do for the person that you were at the time. Thank you for this comment... You don't have to BE better but you have to be YOU.
Even though she didn't really reveal much I can relate to this girl more than most of Dr K's other guests. Because this is kind of how I behave in therapy, not uncooperative but really guarded and withdrawn.
@@kyuuzou501 hmm maybe but if you watch her streams there's something not right going on up there. Maybe she wasn't ready to be that open and have people judge her, wish they would've went more in dept though.
Would love to have her on for another episode. The first half was mostly confusion, and then the second half there was a lot of nervous laughing and repressed emotions. We need to go deepeeer!
30:00 Very interesting. It's the same way i felt with my father : everytime i wanted to confront him about something, he gets very defensive about it, started insulting... After time and time of constant fighting i started avoiding the confrontation at all, just to avoid the constant useless fighting and avoid wearing myself out for no reasons or results.
Hi stranger from two years ago. The universal answer is to listen and ask questions and really try to understand him. It will be very frustrating to you, but just acknowledge it at set it aside and continue listening. If he gets defensive, just compasionately tell him, he is defensive and that you are sorry he feels unease and that you are not blamimg him for anything. I would start at very small supraficial stuff and as you two find better ways to communicate, go to harder issues. Good luck
Great video, I honestly resonate a lot with loserfruit's situation. Specifically about this deep-seated, double-edged sword of both "I can do better" simultaneously meaning "I'm not good enough". And how it's hard to conceive of a mental framework outside of that. With that in mind, my mind was kind of blown with the introduction of dharma(?) as an alternative way of achieving self-satisfaction. But one question: How do you find motivation to learn new things and improve your abilities with dharma as a guide? Do you have a duty to yourself? If so, how is duty to improve yourself any different than being driven by feeling like you could be better?
Dr.K you should really talk to CG Kid, he is a youtuber who was a heavy drug addict then he was sober for 5+ years but relapsed 2-3 weeks ago. He found that meditation is maybe helping him and he had a mild awakening. I think your conversation would be really interesting.
My. Fucking. Brother. This would be the greatest crossover. It would be really really interesting, especially given doctor K's background in addiction treatment.
YYYYES! Jesus, CG Kid is having the time of his life right now and he doesn't even know it. He's genuinely going through the hero's journey and I think he's coming out the other side. He's been fucked up all his life, last month was his lowest point actually uploading a video saying he relapsed on drugs and was miserable and literally a month later he has an awakening and is happier than ever before, realizing the psychological nature of his previous acts and starting to live in the moment with no anxieties. It makes me so happy! drk should talk to him asap!
@@Mangaluvr247 i haven't heard of soviet wave, but i've come across some random russian doomer songs, which were pretty cool just like all the doomer stuff. Right now i'm not listening to a lot because i'm more focused on producing my own stuff
This is great, Im 17, currently going through a very toxic relationship and realized I started to realize I was revolving my own identity around the person so when they started to leave i would panic and just overall feel very desperate This is a new experience for me since ive never had my ego impacted in this way and I didnt know how to take it but Im realizing how I've been contributing to the toxicity
It's awesome that you've realized that. You are still very young though so don't be hard on yourself. People need to learn how to be in relationships and it takes some time
@@steve00alt70 Psychologist: doesn't go to med school, he basically doesn't have the right to write prescriptions but can otherwise work as a therapist (studies the mind) Psychiatrist: A doctor who specialices in psychiatry (treating the mind) Therapist: An occupation, you can be either a psychiatrist or a psychologist (in psychotherapy), their job is to help you move forward with any problems you're dealing with in your mind
Dr. K get better, this cold is really kicking your butt. You coming on to do this while sick says a lot about your character. Id say thanks again for what you do, but im pretty sure you not only hear that about a thousand times a day but are aware of the importance of what you do. Thanks again Dr. K, your a gangster.
I feel like loserfruit's coping mechanism is less about who's actually right and more about "there must be SOMETHING I'm missing otherwise these people wouldn't treat me in such a hurtful way"
The reason she thinks other people are manipulating her is because she has a certain opinion but doesn't have the confidence to get her ideas through. Sometimes you have to fight other people's egos and downplay other people's opinions. But she doesn't want to hurt other people's feelings. When a person's opinion is valued more than her own suggestion, even though she isn't satisfied with it, her coping mechanism begins. She can then only accept this decision by convincing herself that she didn't understand the other person or that something is "missing" in her plans. Inwardly, she knows she is right, but she desperately tries to find something in the other person argument that isn't there. But because she is actually against it, but doesn't have the strength to fight it, she lets the others just do it, which, however, increase her resentment to that person in her head every time. She then thinks that the others are forcing her to make this choices and are manipulating her. That is the anger Dr. K noticed.
I think what she was trying to say, but didn't know how to at the beginning was: if you shut down your opinions that you feel are the right ones under pressure from someone else, you can just move on and skip the friction between 2 people and that is what she meant by easier, but you still feel like you were fucked over. EDIT ok they figured it out
Hey Dr k, just dropped by to say you've really helped me discover my dharma and attach myself to goals outside of the virtual world. I hope your message continues to resonate like it did with me
i feel like streaming and generally doing online content for an audience kind of forces those patterns on you. some ppl feel like an imposter, some ppl get depressed, some get bipolar. it pretty much always is this mix of attention, love, hate and other people around you being better at something that our brain cant handle in combination. so we end up breaking apart under the pressure.
9:18, Dr. K employs the classic “jump scare the girl who has panic attacks” technique. 😂 No, but very profound & impactful as usual. Getting to see someone else’s inner workings laid out so clearly & the dimensions of their problems that overlap with my own experience is tremendously helpful in identifying pathological or undesirable patterns of thought & behavior that I had never been able to see clearly, & identifying something like that is the first step to progressing through it. It’s amazing how often there’s at least one big thing that I notice in the interview guests’ stories & the analysis which maps perfectly onto my own life. Extremely informative.
She seems either super traumatized and repressing a lot of baggage that she isn't comfortable talking about or she's actually wrong about a lot of that vague stuff she's talking about, and hasn't thought it through well, because this is dodging around the most vague half-statements imaginable. I hope she gets better, whatever that means for her.
Listening to this video was like watching someone trying to pry open a clam. Initially there was a lot of resistance and very little progress was being made, but eventually after rigorous prodding and poking and prying a small opening finally appeared, Eureka! And from there a very fruitful (pun very much intended) conversation started to happen. An interesting journey that kind of felt like a movie.
I think most of her problems stem from being so public with her life and always in the audiences eye, it almost dictates and frustrates her sometimes with having originally been a mostly quiet and reserved person growing up. There's a lot of hesitation and self doubt, you often get stuck within yourself and that further feeds the underlying issues. My advice would be to make sure you take more time off for yourself, to do things outside the public eye and strengthen your ways of self reassurance. To reflect in a healthy manner without getting stuck in your head. Quick little analysis of what I took away from this.
to help joe? if not, screw that. joes a giant douche. or wait, is joe missing a giant portion of his brain? thatd probably be the only thing thatd help me to understand where hes coming from when he opens his mouth.
This interview session is so interesting. Katelyn has like 2 personas within herself. One that is confident, another one that is insecure. This could be why it sounds so confusing listening to her talk about her issues. Because maybe these 2 sides of her have different issues.
You know what, this sounds exactly like vunerable narcissism. Where your self valuation is really low, but somehow you are right and your opinion is right and the people that disagree are just doing it to get you.
while it is more convenient to just listen, I feel like the visuals, and specifically the facial expressions, are very important if you want to get the whole experience.
is there a difference between these two things: avoid doing things because you don't think you're going to meet your expectations OR avoid doing something because you think it will fail. I feel like there is, i'd like to have the thoughts of the comment section. Thank you to loserfruit and Drk for this... really much love to you guys
Late, but, I think not really, since the perception of failing is from us setting expectations for it to be a certain way as an outcome, then failing to reach that certain outcome. In both of them we are avoiding, maybe because we don't want it to fail, when we can't actually control the outcome but only our input. So I don't see the difference. But if what you meant was in one you were procrastinating, and the other you were not doing it as one of the many possibilities you could possibly be doing and then doing something else, then that may be different. The latter is healthier, since it's the kind of avoidance that breeds acceptance and a resilient outlook/attitude rather than anxiety
First of all, I love Dr. K.. I never in my life thought I could learn so much without being taught. The way he listens, processes, and expresses himself is incredible. That being said, does anyone have an expansion on his point at 1:19:54? "If you can be better it means you are not good enough". I totally understand this idea in the extreme (like he mentions with unhappy successful people), at the same time though, I believe for the average person getting better is crucial. I was hoping someone knows if he has a segment on this.
One issue is that it is an unachievable goal, there is literally no end point so there's no way to give yourself positive reinforcement for achievement using that metric. The more helpful way to approach that sort of goal is to break it down into smaller concrete and achievable steps and to give yourself measured expectations towards achieving them. Expecting yourself to amorphously 'give your best' every day is unrealistic. Expecting yourself to make specific improvements over specific time frames is possible.
Yeah the point is that the mindset is toxic. Understanding that you’re not where you could be is different than always wanting to be better. When you focus on always improving that means that you can never accept what you are right now. You always see yourself as “not good enough” because of the implication. “I need to get better” places a negative judgement on yourself and your inability to be as good as you should be, even though your expectation is never ending improvement. So you never get to be good enough.
@@johnstriednig2712 Yes, exactly. As I type this I can see an Andrew Yang video about "America's human capital" being "deficient." This is just arrogant nonsense that leads people into thinking they should be better and beating themselves up. I'm glad we have Dr. K to help us shake off this mindset.
in my own personal experience, when I can relate to a doctor or professional on a goofy level or they do something “normal” if that makes any sense, I feel more comfortable. Maybe something similar happened here.
Love the video Dr. K From someone who's extremely well at being subtle. I can see what Dr. K is trying to do when it comes to people who are fairly new at being subtle. He's trying not to call it out in the beginning. She is trying to not call certain people out because she's trying to be nice and neutral in her certain situation. She really a kind person from what i can tell, but theirs things in life that start to affect us. That's why we start to do things that helps mask or cope with the situation. I don't follow LoserFruit but she is trying not fully explain the situation. Which is understandable and hope the best for her.
im kinda worried that this is published since im guessing the people she is talking about working with would also have access to this stream and see what tactics she might be employing in the future :x
She sounds like me to a degree, enneagram-wise. I didn't realize I was so similar to Loserfruit! She sounds like an Enneagram Type 9, strong 1 Wing. Or possibly Type 1, strong 9 Wing... And also a lot of type 5. The three that I have most of. Really great video so far! Still watching 🍿🍿🍿
As a psychologist and a fan, I feel very happy to see @Loserfruit talking with Dr. K! She said a couple of times on UA-cam she couldn't handle her mental health, but she wouldn't look for profesional help because she believed that she must be capable of handle her trouble by herself. So talking with Dr. K was like a huge step to accept herself as she are, and that she doesn't need to constantly targeting that better version she talked about. I believe she is way more confident than arrogant, considering how she open herself in her videos when she needs to. And that is one of my favorite aspects of her.
lufu seems to really be a socially smart person. she seems to be quite aware when ppl try to manipulate her. thats an awesome skill to have, especially when you work with other streamers, since there are alot of narcissistic ppl in this field.
I wished I could sit down with Dr. K and talk about my problems. After watching this I totally felt like my wish came true. Thank you K and Thank you Loserfruit
Your majesty Dr K, I've been in such a similar position as her and I think you have it completely wrong. She doesn't feel confident to disagree with you because whenever she has disagreed with that group, they would shut her down so now she'll never disagree with anyone to save her from the hurt. That group or that guy is egotistical and always thinks his opinion is right. So whenever loserfruit mentioned her opinion on something they'd always say she's wrong, stupid, useless etc. In some cases, she's correct on something but the guy with the ego will always brush it under the carpet. She'll never say to the group "I told you I was right" because that's so childish. But she also thinks that it's so childish for the group to always think that they are correct so she has this mini volcano going on. I think you've gone towards a wrong direction for her and I think she deserves another go with this comment in mind. I had pretty much the exact same situation happen to me. I consider myself as confident and by going off what you were saying, that means less of an ego. I had the exact same thoughts about my best friend, he always thought he was right but I didnt want to be childish and tell him every time he was wrong. I think because she's had this going for a while now, that it has become so damaging that she wont answer to what she truly thinks. She's done with getting put down and hurt on her opinions, so she'll follow whatever you're saying because she has a protection mechanism to stop herself from getting hurt again.
17:25 She starts fidgeting when he brings up her friends. But she stops when he asks about her brother. Then she starts fidgeting again when he brings up her friends.
@@TestAccount-uu9vp No, not at all!. I meant she has some tension with her group of friends, she doesn't have tension with her brother. So I would assume there may be a story with her group of friends that makes her feel tense. I don't assume anything innappropriate with her brother.
Listening to her is difficult, i'm getting really lost and can't make much sense of what she's saying. Almost as if she doesn't comprehend what is truly going on herself.
I made a quick little analysis : I think most of her problems stem from being so public with her life and always in the audiences eye, it almost dictates and frustrates her sometimes with having originally been a mostly quiet and reserved person growing up. There's a lot of hesitation and self doubt, you often get stuck within yourself and that further feeds the underlying issues. My advice would be to make sure to take more time off for yourself, to do things outside the public eye and strengthen your ways of self reassurance. To reflect in a healthy manner without getting stuck in your head.
You can tell the message she is trying to show to the public. She wants to be confident so she sticks by her opinions but deep down she believes if she speaks out about her opinions she will seem weak by the "person". To cope she justifies them making her small, choosing an approach that makes her seem confident but truly the "person" ultimately makes her weak. She is inconsistent as she wants to seem completely confident but the only way to be confident is to show weakness. The truly strong approach is to be confident by not being subject to the "smallness" but by speaking out about it. Kath thinks this will make her weak so instead she says she is confident by still sticking to her opinion but she thinks the only way to be confident is to subject herself to this behaviour. When Dr.k highlights this it sounds weak to her and she denies it resulting in her going back to her idea of sticking to her opinion. The solution to this is that kath needs to realise the by speaking up and standing up for herself is the definition of confidence and the only true way to be confident (ACTUALLY BE CONFIDENT not just perceive yourself so) is to believe in your opinion and stick up for yourself.
I like watching healthy gamer cuz i just found him but we have tge same thought process and similar interests. He better helps me refine and evaluate how i engage in conversations like this with my peers because this is my passion. It feels good to be there with people. But i still do it for free lol and i don't mind .i just love how he navigates theses so fluidly and fast .aslo hes into spirituality too so i feel like he's my older brother lol
EGO?! When women turn me down for a date it's not ego that I think she doesn't play trombone anyway so whatever. I have a shirt that says "It's okay that you don't like to play the trombone. It's kind of a smart people instrument anyway.". Therefore, it's not ego it's intelligent reflection.
Dr. K I have been living with debilitating anxiety and constant feeling of vomiting and I've been diagnosed with emetophobia (scared of vomit all my life). Have had a few traumatic experiences lately. I don't know where to turn anymore, therapy hasn't been working and I had my final seession last week. Please help.
discord.gg/healthygamergg Come join the discord server where we all discuss our problems without judgement and you can get it touch with a recovery coach who can guide you
My ex-girlfriend had a very similar problem, also with vomiting. One thing that really helped her was ASMR and EFT (EFT tapping). She went on to work with babies as a childcare worker and I think that exposure is what helped her the most. Her stress and anxiety surrounding vomiting was debilitating and had her whole life until her early 20s, but she got through it and you can too.
I really Love how Dr K showed her the beautiful practice of Naughty Shodhana Pranayama at the end and i really Love how Dr K uses Hindu philosophy and teachings to his patients🤍🤍🤍
I can't really wrap my head around "trying to be better is bad" (paraphrased). I am improving at some things and it feels great and the results keep improving but I don't see the negative part of it. Anyone else here getting what he says and why it would be true?
Telling yourself that you could had done it better, is like telling yourself that you're not good enough. But what you tell is more like, you're good and still want to improve. Sry my bad eng...
@@Newman11111 I get your point and I think it's a good one. The second part is basically what I do, which I think is fine. Perhaps Dr. K should have qualified it and be a bit more specific?
There were an episode where he talk to a cs go streamer about I've could had done that better vs I'm happy with where i am. Can't remember who he talk to
When Dr.K said she’s arrogant she got upset and took it personally. Some people go to therapy expecting a specific type of support but then be very shocked when they’re called out on the real problem. I felt like he was talking to me when he called out the arrogance, and her behavior showed to me that she couldn’t accept it.
Never resonated more with a person. I do the same mental gymnastics and deal with that emotional little kid that takes over my thoughts sometimes (the ego). Serious suppressed anger. Some OCD and need for control. Really bad anxiety. Rarely talk/emotional wall. Some abandonment issues, never good enough, don’t try at anything because it’s too much pressure to be better.
I would love to see more videos with her. I’m interested to see if her relationship (or lack thereof?) with her dad is a cause. I definitely think it is for me.
Is Muselk the person who is gaslighting Lufu, I heard from Muselks podcast that they get into arguments and their ego clashes, so It would make sense if it is Muselk
It hit too close to home that she rather choses not to tell her opinion to anyone anymore because nobody seem to care about the other side... You could say that pushing away these kind of relationships is the better choice, while I'm sitting here all alone since I've done that only the thoughts in my head and these meaningless YT comments.
What is wrong with me that it makes me want to rip every hair out of my head when i hear people swish things around in their mouth on mic (like the cough drop in this video). I dont know why but there is no stronger trigger in the world for me. I absolutely cant stand it.
I can tell a lot just from her body language. It seems like she may be deeply traumatized, causing her defense mechanisms to kick in when the topic comes up. Alternatively, she could be exaggerating for attention. She reminds me of a teenager who knows what's wrong but downplays it to seek attention, and when the conversation turns serious, it becomes too painful. Either way, it's okay. It's just interesting how much I can gather from just observing her for a few minutes.
You need to find your inner calm my dude. Think about why it irritates you. In one of the reckful videos there's construction at reckfuls place and Dr k talks to him about it
I think it helps us because we can relate in a lot of different ways to people we look up to or enjoy watching and because you help them i guess we can get ideas that may help us too. EDIT i know you're probably sick but man the cough drop was so distracting lol sorry.
it's a single mother thing. maybe no one treated her like crap, but she was alone, cuz mother worked. and her mind always understood - mother is working, she loves me, it's not her fault, etc. my hurt is wrong, mother is right. or if mother was dismissive, and she's used to be quiet, non-existing, ignored, etc. she's same as me. i even had toxic colleague too. but i'm not as subtle as she, lol.
What she is doing reminds me a lot of vegans interacting with meat eaters. Rather then just assume they are terrible people they just assume they themselves are missing a piece of the puzzle. What that persons needs are, what there life demands allow for meal prep, how much nutrition the person knows or if they even have the time to learn. You come up with a million reasons why they could be making the decision they are because it gives you a way to talk to them as an equal rather then just assume someone who is not smart enough to tell right from wrong.
"I had a great childhood, single mother raised me". That right there, explains everything. Mothers affect how your early life goes, while fathers affect how we do later in life. Growing up without a father is a much bigger deal than most people think nowadays.
May want to read some studies about same sex couples and raising children. It's not about having a mother and father, it's just difficult being raised by one person.
@@chowder5901 and you may wan't to read some more. The illusion that children with same sex parents aren't missing out, is only alive, because it wouldn't be pc to say so. Good fathers help children develop strong identities and self-worth. Thinking men can do what women can and vice versa is just silly.
Not saying that children in such families can't function well or what-not, but they have the odds stacked against them, perhaps not as bad as children with a single parent, but still.
@@danm.. A good question. If i had the answer i probably wouldn't be wasting time commenting on youtube. All i know is that according to research, men seem to affect children differently than women. It also shows that children with single fathers rather than mothers, tend to do better. It probably stems from the way children apparently gain self-worth, identity, trust and safety from a father-figure, which is neccesary to become a functional adult. Now could a woman emulate a father-figure? Maybe, but it is a fact that the male and female mind is vastly different, so it is definitely up-hill. If you have evidence of same-sex parents doing as good as traditional families, i wouldn't mind taking a look at that, but from what i gather, they will have a tough time imprinting both masculine and feminine values in their children.
Dr. K runs an unlicensed copy of windows. What a boss.
Boomer* ^^
what an absolute mad lad.
it is the only moral way to run windows imho
@@broquestwarsneeder7617 but u can crack it so the logo doesnt destroy u mentally
@@mushinnosin5989 It doesn't even affect me anymore it's just apart of my screen by now, if it wasn't there I would be worried
The best part piece of advice that dr.k gave through the entire video, is that if you keep on trying to better yourself, you will never be content with who you are
hmmm.......I disagree but....also agree. I see what message he tried to say but you should almost always tro be to better, and by better doesnt mean change, it can literally mean just get better in some activity, hobby, knowledge et.
Jon Andreas yeah what u said was true but I don’t think that was the point dr k was saying
As someone who's been hiting the gym for 5 years straight, I can confirm it. You will never be satisfied with your current self
@@veryfinan5187 I know, I took his argument in a little different direction, but I see his point that you should be proud of who you are and what you can do. This idea of always improving yourself in order to become "perfect" can be dangerous since nobody is perfect (even if they have an idea of what perfect is) and can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle.
Its okay to see how you can be better as long as you accept you for the way you are right now. Be patient with yourself.
Edit: I actually got at that part in the video and it hit me in the feelz too. It is so true that you naturally get better with experience and not by judging yourself... if you do things by your sense of duty for people you then feel you gave what you were able to do for the person that you were at the time. Thank you for this comment... You don't have to BE better but you have to be YOU.
Dr. "I just need to think for a second" K
is this joke from mma or its everythere?
Man literally invokes the power of the jimmy neutron brain blast
@@AXharoth Joe Rogan, not mma lol.
@@gercius well yeah this whole place
@@gercius anyway high 5 xD
Even though she didn't really reveal much I can relate to this girl more than most of Dr K's other guests. Because this is kind of how I behave in therapy, not uncooperative but really guarded and withdrawn.
well u suck xD
edit: i mean u suck at therapy ;D
Maybe just wants the free publicity
@@kyuuzou501 hmm maybe but if you watch her streams there's something not right going on up there. Maybe she wasn't ready to be that open and have people judge her, wish they would've went more in dept though.
Or maybe being guarded and withdrawn is how she better deals with stressful situations.
*depth woops. Don't like editing comments my bad.
Dr. K's interviews are literally the only over an hour videos that I wanna watch whole.
same its very engaging and fun to watch how other peoples mind work
Would love to have her on for another episode. The first half was mostly confusion, and then the second half there was a lot of nervous laughing and repressed emotions. We need to go deepeeer!
30:00 Very interesting. It's the same way i felt with my father : everytime i wanted to confront him about something, he gets very defensive about it, started insulting... After time and time of constant fighting i started avoiding the confrontation at all, just to avoid the constant useless fighting and avoid wearing myself out for no reasons or results.
Im going through the same right now. Didnt know that its common. What approach do you advise me?
Hi stranger from two years ago. The universal answer is to listen and ask questions and really try to understand him. It will be very frustrating to you, but just acknowledge it at set it aside and continue listening. If he gets defensive, just compasionately tell him, he is defensive and that you are sorry he feels unease and that you are not blamimg him for anything. I would start at very small supraficial stuff and as you two find better ways to communicate, go to harder issues. Good luck
Great video, I honestly resonate a lot with loserfruit's situation. Specifically about this deep-seated, double-edged sword of both "I can do better" simultaneously meaning "I'm not good enough". And how it's hard to conceive of a mental framework outside of that. With that in mind, my mind was kind of blown with the introduction of dharma(?) as an alternative way of achieving self-satisfaction. But one question: How do you find motivation to learn new things and improve your abilities with dharma as a guide? Do you have a duty to yourself? If so, how is duty to improve yourself any different than being driven by feeling like you could be better?
Interesting questions and i like it
Dr.K you should really talk to CG Kid, he is a youtuber who was a heavy drug addict then he was sober for 5+ years but relapsed 2-3 weeks ago. He found that meditation is maybe helping him and he had a mild awakening.
I think your conversation would be really interesting.
My. Fucking. Brother.
This would be the greatest crossover. It would be really really interesting, especially given doctor K's background in addiction treatment.
Salared yes that would be so so perfect!
yes
I love CG Kid!
YYYYES! Jesus, CG Kid is having the time of his life right now and he doesn't even know it. He's genuinely going through the hero's journey and I think he's coming out the other side. He's been fucked up all his life, last month was his lowest point actually uploading a video saying he relapsed on drugs and was miserable and literally a month later he has an awakening and is happier than ever before, realizing the psychological nature of his previous acts and starting to live in the moment with no anxieties. It makes me so happy! drk should talk to him asap!
She reminds me of my highschool self a lot. Nursing school pretty much forced me to explain myself better, be less blunt and be more assertive.
Tatiana nursing school did the same for me. Best life choice I made.
i like your music taste ;)
@@ElPita17 eeey, a fellow vaporware fan I see :) Maybe you'd also like Soviet wave or doomer music? Just got into it, some chill stuff
@@Mangaluvr247 i haven't heard of soviet wave, but i've come across some random russian doomer songs, which were pretty cool just like all the doomer stuff. Right now i'm not listening to a lot because i'm more focused on producing my own stuff
@@ElPita17 Good stuff bro. I like your stuff. Subscribed. Keep it up!
This is great, Im 17, currently going through a very toxic relationship and realized I started to realize I was revolving my own identity around the person so when they started to leave i would panic and just overall feel very desperate
This is a new experience for me since ive never had my ego impacted in this way and I didnt know how to take it but Im realizing how I've been contributing to the toxicity
Jordan Frisbee maggie
eekaboo what
nothing bruh
It's awesome that you've realized that. You are still very young though so don't be hard on yourself. People need to learn how to be in relationships and it takes some time
@Anarcho Frills She just messes with my head sooo much playing games and I care TOO much, Ive ever acted like this w a girl before I feel so weak
As an aspiring psychiatrist, I must say that Dr. K is BAEEEE
@@steve00alt70
Psychologist: doesn't go to med school, he basically doesn't have the right to write prescriptions but can otherwise work as a therapist (studies the mind)
Psychiatrist: A doctor who specialices in psychiatry (treating the mind)
Therapist: An occupation, you can be either a psychiatrist or a psychologist (in psychotherapy), their job is to help you move forward with any problems you're dealing with in your mind
You'll never be like him lul
@@SlyApex WeirdChamp Stop
I suggest checking out 'therapy in a nutshell'
Along with 'Dr Tracey Marks
Dr. K get better, this cold is really kicking your butt. You coming on to do this while sick says a lot about your character. Id say thanks again for what you do, but im pretty sure you not only hear that about a thousand times a day but are aware of the importance of what you do. Thanks again Dr. K, your a gangster.
I hope she comes back, I'd like to hear her and Dr. K's thoughts on inadequacy. Great episode!
Remember watching Loserfruit a lot when I was in high school. Really cool to see her here.
@Divine Hero yikes. Imagine watching this virgin loser
@@pelhamrechtsanwalt2416 imagine being you.
I feel like loserfruit's coping mechanism is less about who's actually right and more about "there must be SOMETHING I'm missing otherwise these people wouldn't treat me in such a hurtful way"
The reason she thinks other people are manipulating her is because she has a certain opinion but doesn't have the confidence to get her ideas through. Sometimes you have to fight other people's egos and downplay other people's opinions. But she doesn't want to hurt other people's feelings. When a person's opinion is valued more than her own suggestion, even though she isn't satisfied with it, her coping mechanism begins. She can then only accept this decision by convincing herself that she didn't understand the other person or that something is "missing" in her plans. Inwardly, she knows she is right, but she desperately tries to find something in the other person argument that isn't there. But because she is actually against it, but doesn't have the strength to fight it, she lets the others just do it, which, however, increase her resentment to that person in her head every time. She then thinks that the others are forcing her to make this choices and are manipulating her. That is the anger Dr. K noticed.
@@kelphi9790 Nice breakdown.
@@kelphi9790 woah
I think what she was trying to say, but didn't know how to at the beginning was: if you shut down your opinions that you feel are the right ones under pressure from someone else, you can just move on and skip the friction between 2 people and that is what she meant by easier, but you still feel like you were fucked over.
EDIT ok they figured it out
They always seems to figure it out. Dr. K is damn good. lol
Hey Dr k, just dropped by to say you've really helped me discover my dharma and attach myself to goals outside of the virtual world. I hope your message continues to resonate like it did with me
i feel like streaming and generally doing online content for an audience kind of forces those patterns on you. some ppl feel like an imposter, some ppl get depressed, some get bipolar. it pretty much always is this mix of attention, love, hate and other people around you being better at something that our brain cant handle in combination. so we end up breaking apart under the pressure.
9:18, Dr. K employs the classic “jump scare the girl who has panic attacks” technique. 😂
No, but very profound & impactful as usual. Getting to see someone else’s inner workings laid out so clearly & the dimensions of their problems that overlap with my own experience is tremendously helpful in identifying pathological or undesirable patterns of thought & behavior that I had never been able to see clearly, & identifying something like that is the first step to progressing through it. It’s amazing how often there’s at least one big thing that I notice in the interview guests’ stories & the analysis which maps perfectly onto my own life. Extremely informative.
She seems either super traumatized and repressing a lot of baggage that she isn't comfortable talking about or she's actually wrong about a lot of that vague stuff she's talking about, and hasn't thought it through well, because this is dodging around the most vague half-statements imaginable. I hope she gets better, whatever that means for her.
she seems covert narcissistic. don't mean any hate she does have baggage and she tries to hide it.
Listening to this video was like watching someone trying to pry open a clam. Initially there was a lot of resistance and very little progress was being made, but eventually after rigorous prodding and poking and prying a small opening finally appeared, Eureka! And from there a very fruitful (pun very much intended) conversation started to happen. An interesting journey that kind of felt like a movie.
I think most of her problems stem from being so public with her life and always in the audiences eye, it almost dictates and frustrates her sometimes with having originally been a mostly quiet and reserved person growing up. There's a lot of hesitation and self doubt, you often get stuck within yourself and that further feeds the underlying issues. My advice would be to make sure you take more time off for yourself, to do things outside the public eye and strengthen your ways of self reassurance. To reflect in a healthy manner without getting stuck in your head.
Quick little analysis of what I took away from this.
This episode got me thinking so much. Lots of good insights. Thank you to Kathleen for being so open!
How awesome would it be to have DR K on a Joe Rogan podcast
to help joe? if not, screw that. joes a giant douche. or wait, is joe missing a giant portion of his brain? thatd probably be the only thing thatd help me to understand where hes coming from when he opens his mouth.
@@Draigon18 lol bro... What did he do to you?
@@Draigon18 get some help
@@Draigon18 snowflake
OH MY GOD YES
Talk with WingsOfRedemption
@@solitariumos But we must...
Real Sweet Kids are here
NO! dont fix him, he is entertaining
Can he even be fixed?
The ultimate raid boss
This interview session is so interesting. Katelyn has like 2 personas within herself. One that is confident, another one that is insecure.
This could be why it sounds so confusing listening to her talk about her issues. Because maybe these 2 sides of her have different issues.
You know what, this sounds exactly like vunerable narcissism. Where your self valuation is really low, but somehow you are right and your opinion is right and the people that disagree are just doing it to get you.
Can we get those interviews as a podcast? Would love to listen to them on the go!
They are on Spotify, you just need to wait a couple of hours/days before they upload them
podcast on spotify
with a couple of minutes in google you can find a lot of ways to get mp3 audio out of a video
Major Disarray this!!!!!
while it is more convenient to just listen, I feel like the visuals, and specifically the facial expressions, are very important if you want to get the whole experience.
is there a difference between these two things: avoid doing things because you don't think you're going to meet your expectations OR avoid doing something because you think it will fail.
I feel like there is, i'd like to have the thoughts of the comment section.
Thank you to loserfruit and Drk for this... really much love to you guys
Late, but, I think not really, since the perception of failing is from us setting expectations for it to be a certain way as an outcome, then failing to reach that certain outcome. In both of them we are avoiding, maybe because we don't want it to fail, when we can't actually control the outcome but only our input. So I don't see the difference.
But if what you meant was in one you were procrastinating, and the other you were not doing it as one of the many possibilities you could possibly be doing and then doing something else, then that may be different. The latter is healthier, since it's the kind of avoidance that breeds acceptance and a resilient outlook/attitude rather than anxiety
Cough drop ASMR
nicholas strohl I strangely enjoyed that
I thought I would jump out of my skin, sounds like that make me super annoyed for some reason.
@@Ludovit110 same lol and her quiet talkin too
@@Ludovit110 Look up Misophonia. :)
Came looking for this comment
I need this interviews on Spotify, good podcast content
If I remember correctly you can download the chrome app and run this video on the app. Then lock your phone and you should have it as a "podcast"
His interviews are on Spotify. Lookup 'HealthyGamerGG'
@@Lostals holly shit thanks dude! I just assumed he didnt uploaded them there
Pogcast
9:10 this man is charging up his full power
Damn she went back and forth alot! I really would like to see more conversations with her!
First of all, I love Dr. K.. I never in my life thought I could learn so much without being taught. The way he listens, processes, and expresses himself is incredible. That being said, does anyone have an expansion on his point at 1:19:54? "If you can be better it means you are not good enough". I totally understand this idea in the extreme (like he mentions with unhappy successful people), at the same time though, I believe for the average person getting better is crucial. I was hoping someone knows if he has a segment on this.
One issue is that it is an unachievable goal, there is literally no end point so there's no way to give yourself positive reinforcement for achievement using that metric.
The more helpful way to approach that sort of goal is to break it down into smaller concrete and achievable steps and to give yourself measured expectations towards achieving them. Expecting yourself to amorphously 'give your best' every day is unrealistic. Expecting yourself to make specific improvements over specific time frames is possible.
Yeah the point is that the mindset is toxic. Understanding that you’re not where you could be is different than always wanting to be better. When you focus on always improving that means that you can never accept what you are right now. You always see yourself as “not good enough” because of the implication. “I need to get better” places a negative judgement on yourself and your inability to be as good as you should be, even though your expectation is never ending improvement. So you never get to be good enough.
@@johnstriednig2712 Yes, exactly. As I type this I can see an Andrew Yang video about "America's human capital" being "deficient." This is just arrogant nonsense that leads people into thinking they should be better and beating themselves up. I'm glad we have Dr. K to help us shake off this mindset.
She relaxed more when he started eating a cough drop.
That is his secret joker
Who wouldn't?
@@Fabian-zd3ms When did he say that?
in my own personal experience, when I can relate to a doctor or professional on a goofy level or they do something “normal” if that makes any sense, I feel more comfortable. Maybe something similar happened here.
Love the video Dr. K
From someone who's extremely well at being subtle. I can see what Dr. K is trying to do when it comes to people who are fairly new at being subtle. He's trying not to call it out in the beginning. She is trying to not call certain people out because she's trying to be nice and neutral in her certain situation. She really a kind person from what i can tell, but theirs things in life that start to affect us. That's why we start to do things that helps mask or cope with the situation. I don't follow LoserFruit but she is trying not fully explain the situation. Which is understandable and hope the best for her.
im kinda worried that this is published since im guessing the people she is talking about working with would also have access to this stream and see what tactics she might be employing in the future :x
Oh, cool! I used to watch Loserfruit a lot when she did Overwatch content. Nice to see her talking to Dr. K.
I guess she didn't want a 2nd talk. Dr.K said she can message her if she wants another session :/
yeah man, so sad, I was hoping so much she come back, but I guess she didnt want (8 months later lol)
Love your work, Dr. K. For the love of all that is beautiful in life, please never use a cough drop in an interview again.
I hope you'll do a follow-up. Very interesting conversation!
Wow, now that I see that microphone I no longer believe that dr.K is speaking directly at my subconscious. it was so fucking cool
She sounds like me to a degree, enneagram-wise. I didn't realize I was so similar to Loserfruit! She sounds like an Enneagram Type 9, strong 1 Wing. Or possibly Type 1, strong 9 Wing... And also a lot of type 5. The three that I have most of. Really great video so far! Still watching 🍿🍿🍿
As a psychologist and a fan, I feel very happy to see @Loserfruit talking with Dr. K! She said a couple of times on UA-cam she couldn't handle her mental health, but she wouldn't look for profesional help because she believed that she must be capable of handle her trouble by herself. So talking with Dr. K was like a huge step to accept herself as she are, and that she doesn't need to constantly targeting that better version she talked about.
I believe she is way more confident than arrogant, considering how she open herself in her videos when she needs to. And that is one of my favorite aspects of her.
I think HealthyGamerGG is the best self-help UA-cam channel on UA-cam in 2020.
lufu seems to really be a socially smart person. she seems to be quite aware when ppl try to manipulate her. thats an awesome skill to have, especially when you work with other streamers, since there are alot of narcissistic ppl in this field.
She sounds like a vunerable narcissist.
I wished I could sit down with Dr. K and talk about my problems. After watching this I totally felt like my wish came true. Thank you K and Thank you Loserfruit
Your majesty Dr K, I've been in such a similar position as her and I think you have it completely wrong. She doesn't feel confident to disagree with you because whenever she has disagreed with that group, they would shut her down so now she'll never disagree with anyone to save her from the hurt. That group or that guy is egotistical and always thinks his opinion is right. So whenever loserfruit mentioned her opinion on something they'd always say she's wrong, stupid, useless etc. In some cases, she's correct on something but the guy with the ego will always brush it under the carpet. She'll never say to the group "I told you I was right" because that's so childish. But she also thinks that it's so childish for the group to always think that they are correct so she has this mini volcano going on. I think you've gone towards a wrong direction for her and I think she deserves another go with this comment in mind. I had pretty much the exact same situation happen to me. I consider myself as confident and by going off what you were saying, that means less of an ego. I had the exact same thoughts about my best friend, he always thought he was right but I didnt want to be childish and tell him every time he was wrong. I think because she's had this going for a while now, that it has become so damaging that she wont answer to what she truly thinks. She's done with getting put down and hurt on her opinions, so she'll follow whatever you're saying because she has a protection mechanism to stop herself from getting hurt again.
17:25 She starts fidgeting when he brings up her friends. But she stops when he asks about her brother. Then she starts fidgeting again when he brings up her friends.
mate, if you are trying to insinuate something innappropriate with her and her brother - you need to talk to Dr K
@@TestAccount-uu9vp No, not at all!. I meant she has some tension with her group of friends, she doesn't have tension with her brother. So I would assume there may be a story with her group of friends that makes her feel tense. I don't assume anything innappropriate with her brother.
Test Account I think you might be the only one who thought that...
@@TestAccount-uu9vp why the hell would you even think he was insinuating that? There is something wrong with you.
@@TestAccount-uu9vp lmaoooooo what the hell
Listening to her is difficult, i'm getting really lost and can't make much sense of what she's saying. Almost as if she doesn't comprehend what is truly going on herself.
I made a quick little analysis : I think most of her problems stem from being so public with her life and always in the audiences eye, it almost dictates and frustrates her sometimes with having originally been a mostly quiet and reserved person growing up. There's a lot of hesitation and self doubt, you often get stuck within yourself and that further feeds the underlying issues. My advice would be to make sure to take more time off for yourself, to do things outside the public eye and strengthen your ways of self reassurance. To reflect in a healthy manner without getting stuck in your head.
Welcome to therapy :p
Bruh,she was spinning Dr.K like a top. Even he was confused and at a loss often.
You can tell the message she is trying to show to the public. She wants to be confident so she sticks by her opinions but deep down she believes if she speaks out about her opinions she will seem weak by the "person". To cope she justifies them making her small, choosing an approach that makes her seem confident but truly the "person" ultimately makes her weak. She is inconsistent as she wants to seem completely confident but the only way to be confident is to show weakness. The truly strong approach is to be confident by not being subject to the "smallness" but by speaking out about it. Kath thinks this will make her weak so instead she says she is confident by still sticking to her opinion but she thinks the only way to be confident is to subject herself to this behaviour. When Dr.k highlights this it sounds weak to her and she denies it resulting in her going back to her idea of sticking to her opinion. The solution to this is that kath needs to realise the by speaking up and standing up for herself is the definition of confidence and the only true way to be confident (ACTUALLY BE CONFIDENT not just perceive yourself so) is to believe in your opinion and stick up for yourself.
I like watching healthy gamer cuz i just found him but we have tge same thought process and similar interests. He better helps me refine and evaluate how i engage in conversations like this with my peers because this is my passion. It feels good to be there with people. But i still do it for free lol and i don't mind .i just love how he navigates theses so fluidly and fast .aslo hes into spirituality too so i feel like he's my older brother lol
EGO?! When women turn me down for a date it's not ego that I think she doesn't play trombone anyway so whatever. I have a shirt that says "It's okay that you don't like to play the trombone. It's kind of a smart people instrument anyway.". Therefore, it's not ego it's intelligent reflection.
Dr. K I have been living with debilitating anxiety and constant feeling of vomiting and I've been diagnosed with emetophobia (scared of vomit all my life). Have had a few traumatic experiences lately. I don't know where to turn anymore, therapy hasn't been working and I had my final seession last week. Please help.
discord.gg/healthygamergg Come join the discord server where we all discuss our problems without judgement and you can get it touch with a recovery coach who can guide you
Have you tried exposure therapy?
@@Marcos10PT didn't get to that point noq
Go do stuff that scares you. As long as you don't die, your body will learn that there's not a whole lot to be afraid of.
My ex-girlfriend had a very similar problem, also with vomiting. One thing that really helped her was ASMR and EFT (EFT tapping). She went on to work with babies as a childcare worker and I think that exposure is what helped her the most. Her stress and anxiety surrounding vomiting was debilitating and had her whole life until her early 20s, but she got through it and you can too.
I really Love how Dr K showed her the beautiful practice of Naughty Shodhana Pranayama at the end and i really Love how Dr K uses Hindu philosophy and teachings to his patients🤍🤍🤍
I can't really wrap my head around "trying to be better is bad" (paraphrased). I am improving at some things and it feels great and the results keep improving but I don't see the negative part of it. Anyone else here getting what he says and why it would be true?
Telling yourself that you could had done it better, is like telling yourself that you're not good enough.
But what you tell is more like, you're good and still want to improve.
Sry my bad eng...
You can be fine with your current state, but still loving to improve. It comes as something more natural then as you follow your happiness.
@@Newman11111 I get your point and I think it's a good one. The second part is basically what I do, which I think is fine. Perhaps Dr. K should have qualified it and be a bit more specific?
@@VerySeriousUser like TheOWLCITYADDICT write, is what dr.k is trying learning people (from what i see, course i can't read other's mind 😅)
There were an episode where he talk to a cs go streamer about I've could had done that better vs I'm happy with where i am. Can't remember who he talk to
These talks are sooo insightful. Keep it up, doc!
When Dr.K said she’s arrogant she got upset and took it personally. Some people go to therapy expecting a specific type of support but then be very shocked when they’re called out on the real problem. I felt like he was talking to me when he called out the arrogance, and her behavior showed to me that she couldn’t accept it.
I love the moment when it clicks with Dr. K that she's actually full of anger
Never resonated more with a person. I do the same mental gymnastics and deal with that emotional little kid that takes over my thoughts sometimes (the ego). Serious suppressed anger. Some OCD and need for control. Really bad anxiety. Rarely talk/emotional wall. Some abandonment issues, never good enough, don’t try at anything because it’s too much pressure to be better.
I would love to see more videos with her. I’m interested to see if her relationship (or lack thereof?) with her dad is a cause. I definitely think it is for me.
i’m sorry to hear that. that’s a rough way to live.
Is Muselk the person who is gaslighting Lufu, I heard from Muselks podcast that they get into arguments and their ego clashes, so It would make sense if it is Muselk
It hit too close to home that she rather choses not to tell her opinion to anyone anymore because nobody seem to care about the other side... You could say that pushing away these kind of relationships is the better choice, while I'm sitting here all alone since I've done that only the thoughts in my head and these meaningless YT comments.
This session helped me a lot.
Thank you both so much for this! My fav so far
1:22:52 Bold statement Dr. K
“this otha thing” 😂
There is absolutely no way that fruity wasn't talking about Muselk/Elliott the whole time...
Damn really relate to this one actually
You really ate a cough drop next to a mic...
Would you have him rather cough often instead ?
I watched LoserFruit at 50 viewers and now she's big. Crazy
awesome stuff Dr.K, you should invite Matt Heafy to talk too you :)
Seems like she has what i call a balanced brain, she is very cool and interesting.
What is wrong with me that it makes me want to rip every hair out of my head when i hear people swish things around in their mouth on mic (like the cough drop in this video). I dont know why but there is no stronger trigger in the world for me. I absolutely cant stand it.
Could be some degree of misophonia. Look it up online and see if there are any useful tips on how to get better. Best wishes :)
I can tell a lot just from her body language. It seems like she may be deeply traumatized, causing her defense mechanisms to kick in when the topic comes up. Alternatively, she could be exaggerating for attention. She reminds me of a teenager who knows what's wrong but downplays it to seek attention, and when the conversation turns serious, it becomes too painful. Either way, it's okay. It's just interesting how much I can gather from just observing her for a few minutes.
100 000 subs exactly at this very moment!!
I’m looking forward to part 2.
"do you feel like the imposter"
the red one is kinda sus
I always liked loserfruits overwatch videos and I like her more because I think she's Australian - good export
This is a late comment, but this woman is 100% me.
shes too cute
why do I relate to every single guest on these streams?
1:30
Dr. K channeling his NPC dialogue
Dr K. This cough drop is driving me crazy, I love watching you. You are so close to the mic. It's annoying. Love your work, keep it up
Deal with it or piss off
D: I really like the cough drop
Cough drop ASMR
You need to find your inner calm my dude. Think about why it irritates you. In one of the reckful videos there's construction at reckfuls place and Dr k talks to him about it
If cough drops can get him through his work, which is to speak, I think cough drop ASMR is worth every minute
I think it helps us because we can relate in a lot of different ways to people we look up to or enjoy watching and because you help them i guess we can get ideas that may help us too.
EDIT i know you're probably sick but man the cough drop was so distracting lol sorry.
What a beautiful human being.
Dude, I really wish I could be reading the comments for this stream.
Holy shit, I do this mental gymnastics too when someone is an asshole towards me.
oh damnit it's so true 52:15
it's a single mother thing. maybe no one treated her like crap, but she was alone, cuz mother worked. and her mind always understood - mother is working, she loves me, it's not her fault, etc. my hurt is wrong, mother is right.
or if mother was dismissive, and she's used to be quiet, non-existing, ignored, etc.
she's same as me. i even had toxic colleague too. but i'm not as subtle as she, lol.
34:33 Dr. K Sith Lord confirmed
I'm a simple man
I see Dr. K, I like
I subbed to /r/loserfruit
Me too
Dr.K i relate so much to this example! Bring me on and i'll be able to bring more light to this type of situation.
Please talk to the CG kid would probs be ur best video therapitically
Love these types of videos, keep doing these!
Dharma timestamp : 1:20:49
it would be so awesome to talk to dr k
1:09:30 "You don't have to do it all the time, but you can go for it every once in a while."
53:00 maybe she was in an abusive relationship with herself before she got into the abusive work relationship?
She's very vague about her childhood and even acknowledges she may be hiding something from herself. I find that interesting.
Alex Russell or just not saying for privacy reasons. Doctor k said many people message him afterwards and told him about more private stuff.
Panic attacks because of anxiety about not being good enough?
What she is doing reminds me a lot of vegans interacting with meat eaters. Rather then just assume they are terrible people they just assume they themselves are missing a piece of the puzzle. What that persons needs are, what there life demands allow for meal prep, how much nutrition the person knows or if they even have the time to learn. You come up with a million reasons why they could be making the decision they are because it gives you a way to talk to them as an equal rather then just assume someone who is not smart enough to tell right from wrong.
"I had a great childhood, single mother raised me". That right there, explains everything. Mothers affect how your early life goes, while fathers affect how we do later in life. Growing up without a father is a much bigger deal than most people think nowadays.
May want to read some studies about same sex couples and raising children. It's not about having a mother and father, it's just difficult being raised by one person.
@@chowder5901 and you may wan't to read some more. The illusion that children with same sex parents aren't missing out, is only alive, because it wouldn't be pc to say so. Good fathers help children develop strong identities and self-worth. Thinking men can do what women can and vice versa is just silly.
Not saying that children in such families can't function well or what-not, but they have the odds stacked against them, perhaps not as bad as children with a single parent, but still.
@@chowder5901 you still need that sort of stern and guiding role from one of the mothers
@@danm.. A good question. If i had the answer i probably wouldn't be wasting time commenting on youtube. All i know is that according to research, men seem to affect children differently than women. It also shows that children with single fathers rather than mothers, tend to do better. It probably stems from the way children apparently gain self-worth, identity, trust and safety from a father-figure, which is neccesary to become a functional adult. Now could a woman emulate a father-figure? Maybe, but it is a fact that the male and female mind is vastly different, so it is definitely up-hill. If you have evidence of same-sex parents doing as good as traditional families, i wouldn't mind taking a look at that, but from what i gather, they will have a tough time imprinting both masculine and feminine values in their children.
Its totally more casual if you eat an apple on the phone
You have a great taste in music my man