Talking with LoserFruit about Ego and Manipulation

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  • @Wwheeles
    @Wwheeles 4 роки тому +593

    Dr. K runs an unlicensed copy of windows. What a boss.

    • @hejhej821
      @hejhej821 4 роки тому +13

      Boomer* ^^

    • @FirebladeXXL
      @FirebladeXXL 4 роки тому +25

      what an absolute mad lad.

    • @broquestwarsneeder7617
      @broquestwarsneeder7617 4 роки тому +52

      it is the only moral way to run windows imho

    • @mushinnosin5989
      @mushinnosin5989 4 роки тому +4

      @@broquestwarsneeder7617 but u can crack it so the logo doesnt destroy u mentally

    • @jackoberto01
      @jackoberto01 4 роки тому +8

      @@mushinnosin5989 It doesn't even affect me anymore it's just apart of my screen by now, if it wasn't there I would be worried

  • @evanvolmar8127
    @evanvolmar8127 4 роки тому +242

    The best part piece of advice that dr.k gave through the entire video, is that if you keep on trying to better yourself, you will never be content with who you are

    • @joffy9373
      @joffy9373 4 роки тому +35

      hmmm.......I disagree but....also agree. I see what message he tried to say but you should almost always tro be to better, and by better doesnt mean change, it can literally mean just get better in some activity, hobby, knowledge et.

    • @veryfinan5187
      @veryfinan5187 4 роки тому +6

      Jon Andreas yeah what u said was true but I don’t think that was the point dr k was saying

    • @oSawmurai
      @oSawmurai 4 роки тому +11

      As someone who's been hiting the gym for 5 years straight, I can confirm it. You will never be satisfied with your current self

    • @joffy9373
      @joffy9373 4 роки тому +2

      @@veryfinan5187 I know, I took his argument in a little different direction, but I see his point that you should be proud of who you are and what you can do. This idea of always improving yourself in order to become "perfect" can be dangerous since nobody is perfect (even if they have an idea of what perfect is) and can lead to an unhealthy lifestyle.

    • @thrive5985
      @thrive5985 4 роки тому +9

      Its okay to see how you can be better as long as you accept you for the way you are right now. Be patient with yourself.
      Edit: I actually got at that part in the video and it hit me in the feelz too. It is so true that you naturally get better with experience and not by judging yourself... if you do things by your sense of duty for people you then feel you gave what you were able to do for the person that you were at the time. Thank you for this comment... You don't have to BE better but you have to be YOU.

  • @katobytes
    @katobytes 4 роки тому +358

    Dr. "I just need to think for a second" K

    • @AXharoth
      @AXharoth 4 роки тому +2

      is this joke from mma or its everythere?

    • @jojivlogs_4255
      @jojivlogs_4255 4 роки тому +23

      Man literally invokes the power of the jimmy neutron brain blast

    • @gercius
      @gercius 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@AXharoth Joe Rogan, not mma lol.

    • @AXharoth
      @AXharoth 4 роки тому

      @@gercius well yeah this whole place

    • @AXharoth
      @AXharoth 4 роки тому +2

      @@gercius anyway high 5 xD

  • @SubscribersWithoutAnySubscribe
    @SubscribersWithoutAnySubscribe 4 роки тому +276

    Even though she didn't really reveal much I can relate to this girl more than most of Dr K's other guests. Because this is kind of how I behave in therapy, not uncooperative but really guarded and withdrawn.

    • @AXharoth
      @AXharoth 4 роки тому +20

      well u suck xD
      edit: i mean u suck at therapy ;D

    • @kyuuzou501
      @kyuuzou501 4 роки тому +4

      Maybe just wants the free publicity

    • @rocketxxv3096
      @rocketxxv3096 4 роки тому +19

      @@kyuuzou501 hmm maybe but if you watch her streams there's something not right going on up there. Maybe she wasn't ready to be that open and have people judge her, wish they would've went more in dept though.

    • @rocketxxv3096
      @rocketxxv3096 4 роки тому +12

      Or maybe being guarded and withdrawn is how she better deals with stressful situations.

    • @rocketxxv3096
      @rocketxxv3096 4 роки тому +3

      *depth woops. Don't like editing comments my bad.

  • @mikiouge
    @mikiouge 4 роки тому +60

    Dr. K's interviews are literally the only over an hour videos that I wanna watch whole.

    • @ArdenRebwar
      @ArdenRebwar 6 місяців тому +2

      same its very engaging and fun to watch how other peoples mind work

  • @Svenbala
    @Svenbala 4 роки тому +45

    Would love to have her on for another episode. The first half was mostly confusion, and then the second half there was a lot of nervous laughing and repressed emotions. We need to go deepeeer!

  • @oxidiana93
    @oxidiana93 4 роки тому +53

    30:00 Very interesting. It's the same way i felt with my father : everytime i wanted to confront him about something, he gets very defensive about it, started insulting... After time and time of constant fighting i started avoiding the confrontation at all, just to avoid the constant useless fighting and avoid wearing myself out for no reasons or results.

    • @mohammadshalabi3441
      @mohammadshalabi3441 3 роки тому +3

      Im going through the same right now. Didnt know that its common. What approach do you advise me?

    • @Silly_Brain
      @Silly_Brain 11 місяців тому

      Hi stranger from two years ago. The universal answer is to listen and ask questions and really try to understand him. It will be very frustrating to you, but just acknowledge it at set it aside and continue listening. If he gets defensive, just compasionately tell him, he is defensive and that you are sorry he feels unease and that you are not blamimg him for anything. I would start at very small supraficial stuff and as you two find better ways to communicate, go to harder issues. Good luck

  • @cufflux
    @cufflux 4 роки тому +20

    Great video, I honestly resonate a lot with loserfruit's situation. Specifically about this deep-seated, double-edged sword of both "I can do better" simultaneously meaning "I'm not good enough". And how it's hard to conceive of a mental framework outside of that. With that in mind, my mind was kind of blown with the introduction of dharma(?) as an alternative way of achieving self-satisfaction. But one question: How do you find motivation to learn new things and improve your abilities with dharma as a guide? Do you have a duty to yourself? If so, how is duty to improve yourself any different than being driven by feeling like you could be better?

  • @Fabian-zd3ms
    @Fabian-zd3ms 4 роки тому +199

    Dr.K you should really talk to CG Kid, he is a youtuber who was a heavy drug addict then he was sober for 5+ years but relapsed 2-3 weeks ago. He found that meditation is maybe helping him and he had a mild awakening.
    I think your conversation would be really interesting.

    • @Hacks4Hire
      @Hacks4Hire 4 роки тому +22

      My. Fucking. Brother.
      This would be the greatest crossover. It would be really really interesting, especially given doctor K's background in addiction treatment.

    • @alexchristensen9537
      @alexchristensen9537 4 роки тому +3

      Salared yes that would be so so perfect!

    • @xxm0abxx5
      @xxm0abxx5 4 роки тому +2

      yes

    • @Ray-lw2rh
      @Ray-lw2rh 4 роки тому

      I love CG Kid!

    • @rssrhahtthst5782
      @rssrhahtthst5782 4 роки тому +3

      YYYYES! Jesus, CG Kid is having the time of his life right now and he doesn't even know it. He's genuinely going through the hero's journey and I think he's coming out the other side. He's been fucked up all his life, last month was his lowest point actually uploading a video saying he relapsed on drugs and was miserable and literally a month later he has an awakening and is happier than ever before, realizing the psychological nature of his previous acts and starting to live in the moment with no anxieties. It makes me so happy! drk should talk to him asap!

  • @Mangaluvr247
    @Mangaluvr247 4 роки тому +53

    She reminds me of my highschool self a lot. Nursing school pretty much forced me to explain myself better, be less blunt and be more assertive.

    • @classicgamecorner5782
      @classicgamecorner5782 4 роки тому +4

      Tatiana nursing school did the same for me. Best life choice I made.

    • @ElPita17
      @ElPita17 4 роки тому +2

      i like your music taste ;)

    • @Mangaluvr247
      @Mangaluvr247 4 роки тому +2

      @@ElPita17 eeey, a fellow vaporware fan I see :) Maybe you'd also like Soviet wave or doomer music? Just got into it, some chill stuff

    • @ElPita17
      @ElPita17 4 роки тому +2

      @@Mangaluvr247 i haven't heard of soviet wave, but i've come across some random russian doomer songs, which were pretty cool just like all the doomer stuff. Right now i'm not listening to a lot because i'm more focused on producing my own stuff

    • @Mangaluvr247
      @Mangaluvr247 4 роки тому +2

      @@ElPita17 Good stuff bro. I like your stuff. Subscribed. Keep it up!

  • @Jordanjuggin
    @Jordanjuggin 4 роки тому +30

    This is great, Im 17, currently going through a very toxic relationship and realized I started to realize I was revolving my own identity around the person so when they started to leave i would panic and just overall feel very desperate
    This is a new experience for me since ive never had my ego impacted in this way and I didnt know how to take it but Im realizing how I've been contributing to the toxicity

    • @eekaboo3659
      @eekaboo3659 4 роки тому

      Jordan Frisbee maggie

    • @Jordanjuggin
      @Jordanjuggin 4 роки тому

      eekaboo what

    • @eekaboo3659
      @eekaboo3659 4 роки тому

      nothing bruh

    • @payamux8933
      @payamux8933 4 роки тому +2

      It's awesome that you've realized that. You are still very young though so don't be hard on yourself. People need to learn how to be in relationships and it takes some time

    • @Jordanjuggin
      @Jordanjuggin 4 роки тому

      @Anarcho Frills She just messes with my head sooo much playing games and I care TOO much, Ive ever acted like this w a girl before I feel so weak

  • @adenkepford7605
    @adenkepford7605 4 роки тому +411

    As an aspiring psychiatrist, I must say that Dr. K is BAEEEE

    • @ELeonko
      @ELeonko 4 роки тому +45

      @@steve00alt70
      Psychologist: doesn't go to med school, he basically doesn't have the right to write prescriptions but can otherwise work as a therapist (studies the mind)
      Psychiatrist: A doctor who specialices in psychiatry (treating the mind)
      Therapist: An occupation, you can be either a psychiatrist or a psychologist (in psychotherapy), their job is to help you move forward with any problems you're dealing with in your mind

    • @SlyApex
      @SlyApex 4 роки тому +2

      You'll never be like him lul

    • @varundanke5534
      @varundanke5534 4 роки тому +59

      @@SlyApex WeirdChamp Stop

    • @antlerman7644
      @antlerman7644 4 роки тому +6

      I suggest checking out 'therapy in a nutshell'

    • @antlerman7644
      @antlerman7644 4 роки тому

      Along with 'Dr Tracey Marks

  • @ChristopherSideris1117
    @ChristopherSideris1117 4 роки тому +26

    Dr. K get better, this cold is really kicking your butt. You coming on to do this while sick says a lot about your character. Id say thanks again for what you do, but im pretty sure you not only hear that about a thousand times a day but are aware of the importance of what you do. Thanks again Dr. K, your a gangster.

  • @br88dy
    @br88dy 4 роки тому +27

    I hope she comes back, I'd like to hear her and Dr. K's thoughts on inadequacy. Great episode!

  • @divinehero7800
    @divinehero7800 4 роки тому +27

    Remember watching Loserfruit a lot when I was in high school. Really cool to see her here.

    • @pelhamrechtsanwalt2416
      @pelhamrechtsanwalt2416 4 роки тому

      @Divine Hero yikes. Imagine watching this virgin loser

    • @tweakicizer
      @tweakicizer 4 роки тому +26

      @@pelhamrechtsanwalt2416 imagine being you.

  • @Kavukamari
    @Kavukamari 4 роки тому +35

    I feel like loserfruit's coping mechanism is less about who's actually right and more about "there must be SOMETHING I'm missing otherwise these people wouldn't treat me in such a hurtful way"

    • @kelphi9790
      @kelphi9790 3 роки тому +13

      The reason she thinks other people are manipulating her is because she has a certain opinion but doesn't have the confidence to get her ideas through. Sometimes you have to fight other people's egos and downplay other people's opinions. But she doesn't want to hurt other people's feelings. When a person's opinion is valued more than her own suggestion, even though she isn't satisfied with it, her coping mechanism begins. She can then only accept this decision by convincing herself that she didn't understand the other person or that something is "missing" in her plans. Inwardly, she knows she is right, but she desperately tries to find something in the other person argument that isn't there. But because she is actually against it, but doesn't have the strength to fight it, she lets the others just do it, which, however, increase her resentment to that person in her head every time. She then thinks that the others are forcing her to make this choices and are manipulating her. That is the anger Dr. K noticed.

    • @Chill.Blossom
      @Chill.Blossom 2 роки тому +1

      @@kelphi9790 Nice breakdown.

    • @robertwide6592
      @robertwide6592 2 роки тому

      @@kelphi9790 woah

  • @Obyvvatel
    @Obyvvatel 4 роки тому +48

    I think what she was trying to say, but didn't know how to at the beginning was: if you shut down your opinions that you feel are the right ones under pressure from someone else, you can just move on and skip the friction between 2 people and that is what she meant by easier, but you still feel like you were fucked over.
    EDIT ok they figured it out

    • @vaevictus4637
      @vaevictus4637 4 роки тому +10

      They always seems to figure it out. Dr. K is damn good. lol

  • @joehampton9492
    @joehampton9492 4 роки тому +25

    Hey Dr k, just dropped by to say you've really helped me discover my dharma and attach myself to goals outside of the virtual world. I hope your message continues to resonate like it did with me

  • @FirebladeXXL
    @FirebladeXXL 4 роки тому +3

    i feel like streaming and generally doing online content for an audience kind of forces those patterns on you. some ppl feel like an imposter, some ppl get depressed, some get bipolar. it pretty much always is this mix of attention, love, hate and other people around you being better at something that our brain cant handle in combination. so we end up breaking apart under the pressure.

  • @SomethingImpromptu
    @SomethingImpromptu 3 роки тому +2

    9:18, Dr. K employs the classic “jump scare the girl who has panic attacks” technique. 😂
    No, but very profound & impactful as usual. Getting to see someone else’s inner workings laid out so clearly & the dimensions of their problems that overlap with my own experience is tremendously helpful in identifying pathological or undesirable patterns of thought & behavior that I had never been able to see clearly, & identifying something like that is the first step to progressing through it. It’s amazing how often there’s at least one big thing that I notice in the interview guests’ stories & the analysis which maps perfectly onto my own life. Extremely informative.

  • @AsmodeusClips
    @AsmodeusClips 4 роки тому +10

    She seems either super traumatized and repressing a lot of baggage that she isn't comfortable talking about or she's actually wrong about a lot of that vague stuff she's talking about, and hasn't thought it through well, because this is dodging around the most vague half-statements imaginable. I hope she gets better, whatever that means for her.

    • @sisino4471
      @sisino4471 4 роки тому

      she seems covert narcissistic. don't mean any hate she does have baggage and she tries to hide it.

  • @VerbalLearning
    @VerbalLearning 4 роки тому +21

    Listening to this video was like watching someone trying to pry open a clam. Initially there was a lot of resistance and very little progress was being made, but eventually after rigorous prodding and poking and prying a small opening finally appeared, Eureka! And from there a very fruitful (pun very much intended) conversation started to happen. An interesting journey that kind of felt like a movie.

  • @F11-c1u
    @F11-c1u 4 роки тому +14

    I think most of her problems stem from being so public with her life and always in the audiences eye, it almost dictates and frustrates her sometimes with having originally been a mostly quiet and reserved person growing up. There's a lot of hesitation and self doubt, you often get stuck within yourself and that further feeds the underlying issues. My advice would be to make sure you take more time off for yourself, to do things outside the public eye and strengthen your ways of self reassurance. To reflect in a healthy manner without getting stuck in your head.
    Quick little analysis of what I took away from this.

  • @cadencesteward3593
    @cadencesteward3593 3 роки тому +2

    This episode got me thinking so much. Lots of good insights. Thank you to Kathleen for being so open!

  • @Jdizzlefreeone
    @Jdizzlefreeone 4 роки тому +256

    How awesome would it be to have DR K on a Joe Rogan podcast

    • @Draigon18
      @Draigon18 4 роки тому +24

      to help joe? if not, screw that. joes a giant douche. or wait, is joe missing a giant portion of his brain? thatd probably be the only thing thatd help me to understand where hes coming from when he opens his mouth.

    • @Jdizzlefreeone
      @Jdizzlefreeone 4 роки тому +64

      @@Draigon18 lol bro... What did he do to you?

    • @Danny2k38
      @Danny2k38 4 роки тому +37

      @@Draigon18 get some help

    • @FREAKout59
      @FREAKout59 4 роки тому +21

      @@Draigon18 snowflake

    • @michaelgavin1909
      @michaelgavin1909 4 роки тому +4

      OH MY GOD YES

  • @Number1PKAFan
    @Number1PKAFan 4 роки тому +79

    Talk with WingsOfRedemption

  • @Fate025
    @Fate025 4 роки тому +5

    This interview session is so interesting. Katelyn has like 2 personas within herself. One that is confident, another one that is insecure.
    This could be why it sounds so confusing listening to her talk about her issues. Because maybe these 2 sides of her have different issues.

    • @BGfootballfan
      @BGfootballfan 4 роки тому +2

      You know what, this sounds exactly like vunerable narcissism. Where your self valuation is really low, but somehow you are right and your opinion is right and the people that disagree are just doing it to get you.

  • @gnauben
    @gnauben 4 роки тому +94

    Can we get those interviews as a podcast? Would love to listen to them on the go!

    • @stefandjokovic5211
      @stefandjokovic5211 4 роки тому +8

      They are on Spotify, you just need to wait a couple of hours/days before they upload them

    • @HealthyGamerGG
      @HealthyGamerGG  4 роки тому +63

      podcast on spotify

    • @3v3ryus3rnam3istak3n
      @3v3ryus3rnam3istak3n 4 роки тому +4

      with a couple of minutes in google you can find a lot of ways to get mp3 audio out of a video

    • @Dean.AlAmriki
      @Dean.AlAmriki 4 роки тому +1

      Major Disarray this!!!!!

    • @ilayvardinon8492
      @ilayvardinon8492 4 роки тому +1

      while it is more convenient to just listen, I feel like the visuals, and specifically the facial expressions, are very important if you want to get the whole experience.

  • @maanvlam
    @maanvlam 4 роки тому +3

    is there a difference between these two things: avoid doing things because you don't think you're going to meet your expectations OR avoid doing something because you think it will fail.
    I feel like there is, i'd like to have the thoughts of the comment section.
    Thank you to loserfruit and Drk for this... really much love to you guys

    • @rosesforhanjisung4161
      @rosesforhanjisung4161 3 роки тому +2

      Late, but, I think not really, since the perception of failing is from us setting expectations for it to be a certain way as an outcome, then failing to reach that certain outcome. In both of them we are avoiding, maybe because we don't want it to fail, when we can't actually control the outcome but only our input. So I don't see the difference.
      But if what you meant was in one you were procrastinating, and the other you were not doing it as one of the many possibilities you could possibly be doing and then doing something else, then that may be different. The latter is healthier, since it's the kind of avoidance that breeds acceptance and a resilient outlook/attitude rather than anxiety

  • @nicholasstrohl2762
    @nicholasstrohl2762 4 роки тому +135

    Cough drop ASMR

    • @br88dy
      @br88dy 4 роки тому +2

      nicholas strohl I strangely enjoyed that

    • @Ludovit110
      @Ludovit110 4 роки тому +8

      I thought I would jump out of my skin, sounds like that make me super annoyed for some reason.

    • @EliasOwnage95
      @EliasOwnage95 4 роки тому

      @@Ludovit110 same lol and her quiet talkin too

    • @iiWicked
      @iiWicked 4 роки тому +2

      @@Ludovit110 Look up Misophonia. :)

    • @TheCasualCosmonaut
      @TheCasualCosmonaut 4 роки тому

      Came looking for this comment

  • @litchofc
    @litchofc 4 роки тому +29

    I need this interviews on Spotify, good podcast content

    • @EmileAI
      @EmileAI 4 роки тому

      If I remember correctly you can download the chrome app and run this video on the app. Then lock your phone and you should have it as a "podcast"

    • @Lostals
      @Lostals 4 роки тому +9

      His interviews are on Spotify. Lookup 'HealthyGamerGG'

    • @litchofc
      @litchofc 4 роки тому +2

      @@Lostals holly shit thanks dude! I just assumed he didnt uploaded them there

    • @themanhimself436
      @themanhimself436 4 роки тому

      Pogcast

  • @prance4058
    @prance4058 4 роки тому +16

    9:10 this man is charging up his full power

  • @imDaep
    @imDaep 4 роки тому +19

    Damn she went back and forth alot! I really would like to see more conversations with her!

  • @Aspectioner
    @Aspectioner 4 роки тому +8

    First of all, I love Dr. K.. I never in my life thought I could learn so much without being taught. The way he listens, processes, and expresses himself is incredible. That being said, does anyone have an expansion on his point at 1:19:54? "If you can be better it means you are not good enough". I totally understand this idea in the extreme (like he mentions with unhappy successful people), at the same time though, I believe for the average person getting better is crucial. I was hoping someone knows if he has a segment on this.

    • @heywhatup9657
      @heywhatup9657 4 роки тому +8

      One issue is that it is an unachievable goal, there is literally no end point so there's no way to give yourself positive reinforcement for achievement using that metric.
      The more helpful way to approach that sort of goal is to break it down into smaller concrete and achievable steps and to give yourself measured expectations towards achieving them. Expecting yourself to amorphously 'give your best' every day is unrealistic. Expecting yourself to make specific improvements over specific time frames is possible.

    • @johnstriednig2712
      @johnstriednig2712 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah the point is that the mindset is toxic. Understanding that you’re not where you could be is different than always wanting to be better. When you focus on always improving that means that you can never accept what you are right now. You always see yourself as “not good enough” because of the implication. “I need to get better” places a negative judgement on yourself and your inability to be as good as you should be, even though your expectation is never ending improvement. So you never get to be good enough.

    • @Winspur1982
      @Winspur1982 3 роки тому

      @@johnstriednig2712 Yes, exactly. As I type this I can see an Andrew Yang video about "America's human capital" being "deficient." This is just arrogant nonsense that leads people into thinking they should be better and beating themselves up. I'm glad we have Dr. K to help us shake off this mindset.

  • @nandatou
    @nandatou 4 роки тому +116

    She relaxed more when he started eating a cough drop.

    • @Fabian-zd3ms
      @Fabian-zd3ms 4 роки тому +26

      That is his secret joker

    • @rednoise4208
      @rednoise4208 4 роки тому +2

      Who wouldn't?

    • @zachrat9083
      @zachrat9083 4 роки тому

      @@Fabian-zd3ms When did he say that?

    • @JJroks543
      @JJroks543 4 роки тому +32

      in my own personal experience, when I can relate to a doctor or professional on a goofy level or they do something “normal” if that makes any sense, I feel more comfortable. Maybe something similar happened here.

  • @superplusextra9634
    @superplusextra9634 4 роки тому +4

    Love the video Dr. K
    From someone who's extremely well at being subtle. I can see what Dr. K is trying to do when it comes to people who are fairly new at being subtle. He's trying not to call it out in the beginning. She is trying to not call certain people out because she's trying to be nice and neutral in her certain situation. She really a kind person from what i can tell, but theirs things in life that start to affect us. That's why we start to do things that helps mask or cope with the situation. I don't follow LoserFruit but she is trying not fully explain the situation. Which is understandable and hope the best for her.

  • @jenniferportola5701
    @jenniferportola5701 4 роки тому +3

    im kinda worried that this is published since im guessing the people she is talking about working with would also have access to this stream and see what tactics she might be employing in the future :x

  • @jbark678
    @jbark678 4 роки тому +7

    Oh, cool! I used to watch Loserfruit a lot when she did Overwatch content. Nice to see her talking to Dr. K.

  • @Ren3gaid
    @Ren3gaid 4 роки тому +6

    I guess she didn't want a 2nd talk. Dr.K said she can message her if she wants another session :/

    • @IzaelNeto
      @IzaelNeto 3 роки тому +2

      yeah man, so sad, I was hoping so much she come back, but I guess she didnt want (8 months later lol)

  • @chasespitka384
    @chasespitka384 2 роки тому +1

    Love your work, Dr. K. For the love of all that is beautiful in life, please never use a cough drop in an interview again.

  • @dancenow1337
    @dancenow1337 4 роки тому +3

    I hope you'll do a follow-up. Very interesting conversation!

  • @luis1856
    @luis1856 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, now that I see that microphone I no longer believe that dr.K is speaking directly at my subconscious. it was so fucking cool

  • @Ap616
    @Ap616 4 роки тому +2

    She sounds like me to a degree, enneagram-wise. I didn't realize I was so similar to Loserfruit! She sounds like an Enneagram Type 9, strong 1 Wing. Or possibly Type 1, strong 9 Wing... And also a lot of type 5. The three that I have most of. Really great video so far! Still watching 🍿🍿🍿

  • @MatheusVenti
    @MatheusVenti 4 роки тому +6

    As a psychologist and a fan, I feel very happy to see @Loserfruit talking with Dr. K! She said a couple of times on UA-cam she couldn't handle her mental health, but she wouldn't look for profesional help because she believed that she must be capable of handle her trouble by herself. So talking with Dr. K was like a huge step to accept herself as she are, and that she doesn't need to constantly targeting that better version she talked about.
    I believe she is way more confident than arrogant, considering how she open herself in her videos when she needs to. And that is one of my favorite aspects of her.

  • @gamu1647
    @gamu1647 4 роки тому +12

    I think HealthyGamerGG is the best self-help UA-cam channel on UA-cam in 2020.

  • @FirebladeXXL
    @FirebladeXXL 4 роки тому +6

    lufu seems to really be a socially smart person. she seems to be quite aware when ppl try to manipulate her. thats an awesome skill to have, especially when you work with other streamers, since there are alot of narcissistic ppl in this field.

    • @BGfootballfan
      @BGfootballfan 4 роки тому +3

      She sounds like a vunerable narcissist.

  • @Fredrikification1
    @Fredrikification1 4 роки тому +4

    I wished I could sit down with Dr. K and talk about my problems. After watching this I totally felt like my wish came true. Thank you K and Thank you Loserfruit

  • @billyxu147
    @billyxu147 4 роки тому +3

    Your majesty Dr K, I've been in such a similar position as her and I think you have it completely wrong. She doesn't feel confident to disagree with you because whenever she has disagreed with that group, they would shut her down so now she'll never disagree with anyone to save her from the hurt. That group or that guy is egotistical and always thinks his opinion is right. So whenever loserfruit mentioned her opinion on something they'd always say she's wrong, stupid, useless etc. In some cases, she's correct on something but the guy with the ego will always brush it under the carpet. She'll never say to the group "I told you I was right" because that's so childish. But she also thinks that it's so childish for the group to always think that they are correct so she has this mini volcano going on. I think you've gone towards a wrong direction for her and I think she deserves another go with this comment in mind. I had pretty much the exact same situation happen to me. I consider myself as confident and by going off what you were saying, that means less of an ego. I had the exact same thoughts about my best friend, he always thought he was right but I didnt want to be childish and tell him every time he was wrong. I think because she's had this going for a while now, that it has become so damaging that she wont answer to what she truly thinks. She's done with getting put down and hurt on her opinions, so she'll follow whatever you're saying because she has a protection mechanism to stop herself from getting hurt again.

  • @Geert_Stradmeijer
    @Geert_Stradmeijer 4 роки тому +4

    17:25 She starts fidgeting when he brings up her friends. But she stops when he asks about her brother. Then she starts fidgeting again when he brings up her friends.

    • @TestAccount-uu9vp
      @TestAccount-uu9vp 4 роки тому +1

      mate, if you are trying to insinuate something innappropriate with her and her brother - you need to talk to Dr K

    • @Geert_Stradmeijer
      @Geert_Stradmeijer 4 роки тому +12

      @@TestAccount-uu9vp No, not at all!. I meant she has some tension with her group of friends, she doesn't have tension with her brother. So I would assume there may be a story with her group of friends that makes her feel tense. I don't assume anything innappropriate with her brother.

    • @MarcPrime
      @MarcPrime 4 роки тому +8

      Test Account I think you might be the only one who thought that...

    • @leonlx564
      @leonlx564 4 роки тому +10

      @@TestAccount-uu9vp why the hell would you even think he was insinuating that? There is something wrong with you.

    • @q.8965
      @q.8965 3 роки тому

      @@TestAccount-uu9vp lmaoooooo what the hell

  • @wowandrss
    @wowandrss 4 роки тому +15

    Listening to her is difficult, i'm getting really lost and can't make much sense of what she's saying. Almost as if she doesn't comprehend what is truly going on herself.

    • @F11-c1u
      @F11-c1u 4 роки тому +9

      I made a quick little analysis : I think most of her problems stem from being so public with her life and always in the audiences eye, it almost dictates and frustrates her sometimes with having originally been a mostly quiet and reserved person growing up. There's a lot of hesitation and self doubt, you often get stuck within yourself and that further feeds the underlying issues. My advice would be to make sure to take more time off for yourself, to do things outside the public eye and strengthen your ways of self reassurance. To reflect in a healthy manner without getting stuck in your head.

    • @heywhatup9657
      @heywhatup9657 4 роки тому

      Welcome to therapy :p

    • @RamKumar-yi6wn
      @RamKumar-yi6wn 4 роки тому +4

      Bruh,she was spinning Dr.K like a top. Even he was confused and at a loss often.

    • @MiniMeatloaf
      @MiniMeatloaf 4 роки тому

      You can tell the message she is trying to show to the public. She wants to be confident so she sticks by her opinions but deep down she believes if she speaks out about her opinions she will seem weak by the "person". To cope she justifies them making her small, choosing an approach that makes her seem confident but truly the "person" ultimately makes her weak. She is inconsistent as she wants to seem completely confident but the only way to be confident is to show weakness. The truly strong approach is to be confident by not being subject to the "smallness" but by speaking out about it. Kath thinks this will make her weak so instead she says she is confident by still sticking to her opinion but she thinks the only way to be confident is to subject herself to this behaviour. When Dr.k highlights this it sounds weak to her and she denies it resulting in her going back to her idea of sticking to her opinion. The solution to this is that kath needs to realise the by speaking up and standing up for herself is the definition of confidence and the only true way to be confident (ACTUALLY BE CONFIDENT not just perceive yourself so) is to believe in your opinion and stick up for yourself.

  • @komlat253
    @komlat253 4 роки тому +5

    I like watching healthy gamer cuz i just found him but we have tge same thought process and similar interests. He better helps me refine and evaluate how i engage in conversations like this with my peers because this is my passion. It feels good to be there with people. But i still do it for free lol and i don't mind .i just love how he navigates theses so fluidly and fast .aslo hes into spirituality too so i feel like he's my older brother lol

  • @sharknadofartquake2449
    @sharknadofartquake2449 11 місяців тому +1

    EGO?! When women turn me down for a date it's not ego that I think she doesn't play trombone anyway so whatever. I have a shirt that says "It's okay that you don't like to play the trombone. It's kind of a smart people instrument anyway.". Therefore, it's not ego it's intelligent reflection.

  • @EliasOwnage95
    @EliasOwnage95 4 роки тому +24

    Dr. K I have been living with debilitating anxiety and constant feeling of vomiting and I've been diagnosed with emetophobia (scared of vomit all my life). Have had a few traumatic experiences lately. I don't know where to turn anymore, therapy hasn't been working and I had my final seession last week. Please help.

    • @rll1236
      @rll1236 4 роки тому +16

      discord.gg/healthygamergg Come join the discord server where we all discuss our problems without judgement and you can get it touch with a recovery coach who can guide you

    • @Marcos10PT
      @Marcos10PT 4 роки тому +1

      Have you tried exposure therapy?

    • @EliasOwnage95
      @EliasOwnage95 4 роки тому

      @@Marcos10PT didn't get to that point noq

    • @SlyApex
      @SlyApex 4 роки тому +1

      Go do stuff that scares you. As long as you don't die, your body will learn that there's not a whole lot to be afraid of.

    • @Hawkinz
      @Hawkinz 4 роки тому +2

      My ex-girlfriend had a very similar problem, also with vomiting. One thing that really helped her was ASMR and EFT (EFT tapping). She went on to work with babies as a childcare worker and I think that exposure is what helped her the most. Her stress and anxiety surrounding vomiting was debilitating and had her whole life until her early 20s, but she got through it and you can too.

  • @MrNathan232
    @MrNathan232 2 роки тому

    I really Love how Dr K showed her the beautiful practice of Naughty Shodhana Pranayama at the end and i really Love how Dr K uses Hindu philosophy and teachings to his patients🤍🤍🤍

  • @VerySeriousUser
    @VerySeriousUser 4 роки тому +2

    I can't really wrap my head around "trying to be better is bad" (paraphrased). I am improving at some things and it feels great and the results keep improving but I don't see the negative part of it. Anyone else here getting what he says and why it would be true?

    • @Newman11111
      @Newman11111 4 роки тому +5

      Telling yourself that you could had done it better, is like telling yourself that you're not good enough.
      But what you tell is more like, you're good and still want to improve.
      Sry my bad eng...

    • @TheOWLCITYADDICT
      @TheOWLCITYADDICT 4 роки тому +3

      You can be fine with your current state, but still loving to improve. It comes as something more natural then as you follow your happiness.

    • @VerySeriousUser
      @VerySeriousUser 4 роки тому

      @@Newman11111 I get your point and I think it's a good one. The second part is basically what I do, which I think is fine. Perhaps Dr. K should have qualified it and be a bit more specific?

    • @Newman11111
      @Newman11111 4 роки тому

      @@VerySeriousUser like TheOWLCITYADDICT write, is what dr.k is trying learning people (from what i see, course i can't read other's mind 😅)

    • @Newman11111
      @Newman11111 4 роки тому

      There were an episode where he talk to a cs go streamer about I've could had done that better vs I'm happy with where i am. Can't remember who he talk to

  • @jayeerbowlsonarow2099
    @jayeerbowlsonarow2099 4 роки тому +1

    These talks are sooo insightful. Keep it up, doc!

  • @kabloom6776
    @kabloom6776 2 роки тому +3

    When Dr.K said she’s arrogant she got upset and took it personally. Some people go to therapy expecting a specific type of support but then be very shocked when they’re called out on the real problem. I felt like he was talking to me when he called out the arrogance, and her behavior showed to me that she couldn’t accept it.

  • @cleverman383
    @cleverman383 9 місяців тому

    I love the moment when it clicks with Dr. K that she's actually full of anger

  • @poortrainer1128
    @poortrainer1128 4 роки тому +3

    Never resonated more with a person. I do the same mental gymnastics and deal with that emotional little kid that takes over my thoughts sometimes (the ego). Serious suppressed anger. Some OCD and need for control. Really bad anxiety. Rarely talk/emotional wall. Some abandonment issues, never good enough, don’t try at anything because it’s too much pressure to be better.

    • @poortrainer1128
      @poortrainer1128 4 роки тому +1

      I would love to see more videos with her. I’m interested to see if her relationship (or lack thereof?) with her dad is a cause. I definitely think it is for me.

    • @MIRACLECHEEZ
      @MIRACLECHEEZ 4 роки тому +1

      i’m sorry to hear that. that’s a rough way to live.

  • @herkuscecys553
    @herkuscecys553 3 роки тому +4

    Is Muselk the person who is gaslighting Lufu, I heard from Muselks podcast that they get into arguments and their ego clashes, so It would make sense if it is Muselk

  • @GergiH
    @GergiH 4 роки тому +1

    It hit too close to home that she rather choses not to tell her opinion to anyone anymore because nobody seem to care about the other side... You could say that pushing away these kind of relationships is the better choice, while I'm sitting here all alone since I've done that only the thoughts in my head and these meaningless YT comments.

  • @Techfuse13
    @Techfuse13 2 роки тому

    This session helped me a lot.

  • @bethsleepien9817
    @bethsleepien9817 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you both so much for this! My fav so far

  • @beryvice1598
    @beryvice1598 4 роки тому +2

    1:22:52 Bold statement Dr. K

  • @iahkrishnashiva
    @iahkrishnashiva 4 роки тому +14

    “this otha thing” 😂

  • @LaylaTheSlayla
    @LaylaTheSlayla 3 роки тому +1

    There is absolutely no way that fruity wasn't talking about Muselk/Elliott the whole time...

  • @harrybakesXD
    @harrybakesXD 4 роки тому +8

    Damn really relate to this one actually

  • @ryaneh3542
    @ryaneh3542 4 роки тому +5

    You really ate a cough drop next to a mic...

    • @RamKumar-yi6wn
      @RamKumar-yi6wn 4 роки тому +2

      Would you have him rather cough often instead ?

  • @SpinWars
    @SpinWars 4 роки тому

    I watched LoserFruit at 50 viewers and now she's big. Crazy

  • @jojjejonson9184
    @jojjejonson9184 4 роки тому +1

    awesome stuff Dr.K, you should invite Matt Heafy to talk too you :)

  • @georgeindestructible
    @georgeindestructible 4 роки тому +10

    Seems like she has what i call a balanced brain, she is very cool and interesting.

  • @yovalord
    @yovalord 4 роки тому +1

    What is wrong with me that it makes me want to rip every hair out of my head when i hear people swish things around in their mouth on mic (like the cough drop in this video). I dont know why but there is no stronger trigger in the world for me. I absolutely cant stand it.

    • @jakobbank3416
      @jakobbank3416 4 роки тому +5

      Could be some degree of misophonia. Look it up online and see if there are any useful tips on how to get better. Best wishes :)

  • @BlueCoore
    @BlueCoore 3 місяці тому

    I can tell a lot just from her body language. It seems like she may be deeply traumatized, causing her defense mechanisms to kick in when the topic comes up. Alternatively, she could be exaggerating for attention. She reminds me of a teenager who knows what's wrong but downplays it to seek attention, and when the conversation turns serious, it becomes too painful. Either way, it's okay. It's just interesting how much I can gather from just observing her for a few minutes.

  • @theoofsweden
    @theoofsweden 4 роки тому

    100 000 subs exactly at this very moment!!

  • @nickx1754
    @nickx1754 4 роки тому +1

    I’m looking forward to part 2.

  • @florkiler6242
    @florkiler6242 4 роки тому +2

    "do you feel like the imposter"
    the red one is kinda sus

  • @koontakenteater
    @koontakenteater 4 роки тому +2

    I always liked loserfruits overwatch videos and I like her more because I think she's Australian - good export

  • @Katherine-ng5vu
    @Katherine-ng5vu 3 роки тому +1

    This is a late comment, but this woman is 100% me.

  • @ShakeITyEA
    @ShakeITyEA 4 роки тому +10

    shes too cute

  • @chanky1000
    @chanky1000 3 роки тому +1

    why do I relate to every single guest on these streams?

  • @ZeGuyFly
    @ZeGuyFly 4 роки тому +1

    1:30
    Dr. K channeling his NPC dialogue

  • @trylinguallin1773
    @trylinguallin1773 4 роки тому +4

    Dr K. This cough drop is driving me crazy, I love watching you. You are so close to the mic. It's annoying. Love your work, keep it up

    • @SlyApex
      @SlyApex 4 роки тому

      Deal with it or piss off

    • @TheMrPanda12
      @TheMrPanda12 4 роки тому

      D: I really like the cough drop

    • @RamKumar-yi6wn
      @RamKumar-yi6wn 4 роки тому +5

      Cough drop ASMR

    • @Chizypuff
      @Chizypuff 4 роки тому +1

      You need to find your inner calm my dude. Think about why it irritates you. In one of the reckful videos there's construction at reckfuls place and Dr k talks to him about it

    • @syphira5187
      @syphira5187 4 роки тому

      If cough drops can get him through his work, which is to speak, I think cough drop ASMR is worth every minute

  • @VanillaGorilla89
    @VanillaGorilla89 4 роки тому

    I think it helps us because we can relate in a lot of different ways to people we look up to or enjoy watching and because you help them i guess we can get ideas that may help us too.
    EDIT i know you're probably sick but man the cough drop was so distracting lol sorry.

  • @SkyLordPanglot
    @SkyLordPanglot 4 роки тому

    What a beautiful human being.

  • @devilmayclarify666
    @devilmayclarify666 4 роки тому

    Dude, I really wish I could be reading the comments for this stream.

  • @moldycarrot9267
    @moldycarrot9267 4 роки тому +1

    Holy shit, I do this mental gymnastics too when someone is an asshole towards me.

  • @ifsugarman
    @ifsugarman Рік тому

    it's a single mother thing. maybe no one treated her like crap, but she was alone, cuz mother worked. and her mind always understood - mother is working, she loves me, it's not her fault, etc. my hurt is wrong, mother is right.
    or if mother was dismissive, and she's used to be quiet, non-existing, ignored, etc.
    she's same as me. i even had toxic colleague too. but i'm not as subtle as she, lol.

  • @danielleb205
    @danielleb205 3 роки тому +2

    34:33 Dr. K Sith Lord confirmed

  • @nicholas9520
    @nicholas9520 4 роки тому +12

    I'm a simple man

  • @billyxu147
    @billyxu147 4 роки тому

    Dr.K i relate so much to this example! Bring me on and i'll be able to bring more light to this type of situation.

  • @eminemworthy
    @eminemworthy 4 роки тому

    Please talk to the CG kid would probs be ur best video therapitically

  • @billyxu147
    @billyxu147 4 роки тому +1

    Love these types of videos, keep doing these!

  • @Verigo
    @Verigo 4 роки тому

    Dharma timestamp : 1:20:49

  • @0missmannequin0
    @0missmannequin0 4 роки тому

    it would be so awesome to talk to dr k

  • @vilvero
    @vilvero 4 роки тому +3

    1:09:30 "You don't have to do it all the time, but you can go for it every once in a while."

  • @colaphoenix6849
    @colaphoenix6849 4 роки тому +6

    53:00 maybe she was in an abusive relationship with herself before she got into the abusive work relationship?

    • @thiocarbamoyl
      @thiocarbamoyl 4 роки тому +2

      She's very vague about her childhood and even acknowledges she may be hiding something from herself. I find that interesting.

    • @colaphoenix6849
      @colaphoenix6849 4 роки тому +3

      Alex Russell or just not saying for privacy reasons. Doctor k said many people message him afterwards and told him about more private stuff.

  • @johntresca8531
    @johntresca8531 3 роки тому

    Panic attacks because of anxiety about not being good enough?

  • @ModeKaioken
    @ModeKaioken 3 роки тому

    What she is doing reminds me a lot of vegans interacting with meat eaters. Rather then just assume they are terrible people they just assume they themselves are missing a piece of the puzzle. What that persons needs are, what there life demands allow for meal prep, how much nutrition the person knows or if they even have the time to learn. You come up with a million reasons why they could be making the decision they are because it gives you a way to talk to them as an equal rather then just assume someone who is not smart enough to tell right from wrong.

  • @wisebluehillwarrior6411
    @wisebluehillwarrior6411 4 роки тому +14

    "I had a great childhood, single mother raised me". That right there, explains everything. Mothers affect how your early life goes, while fathers affect how we do later in life. Growing up without a father is a much bigger deal than most people think nowadays.

    • @chowder5901
      @chowder5901 4 роки тому +8

      May want to read some studies about same sex couples and raising children. It's not about having a mother and father, it's just difficult being raised by one person.

    • @wisebluehillwarrior6411
      @wisebluehillwarrior6411 4 роки тому +2

      @@chowder5901 and you may wan't to read some more. The illusion that children with same sex parents aren't missing out, is only alive, because it wouldn't be pc to say so. Good fathers help children develop strong identities and self-worth. Thinking men can do what women can and vice versa is just silly.

    • @wisebluehillwarrior6411
      @wisebluehillwarrior6411 4 роки тому +2

      Not saying that children in such families can't function well or what-not, but they have the odds stacked against them, perhaps not as bad as children with a single parent, but still.

    • @kameronrichardson2266
      @kameronrichardson2266 4 роки тому

      @@chowder5901 you still need that sort of stern and guiding role from one of the mothers

    • @wisebluehillwarrior6411
      @wisebluehillwarrior6411 4 роки тому

      @@danm.. A good question. If i had the answer i probably wouldn't be wasting time commenting on youtube. All i know is that according to research, men seem to affect children differently than women. It also shows that children with single fathers rather than mothers, tend to do better. It probably stems from the way children apparently gain self-worth, identity, trust and safety from a father-figure, which is neccesary to become a functional adult. Now could a woman emulate a father-figure? Maybe, but it is a fact that the male and female mind is vastly different, so it is definitely up-hill. If you have evidence of same-sex parents doing as good as traditional families, i wouldn't mind taking a look at that, but from what i gather, they will have a tough time imprinting both masculine and feminine values in their children.

  • @danntheman865
    @danntheman865 4 роки тому +2

    Its totally more casual if you eat an apple on the phone

    • @leonlx564
      @leonlx564 4 роки тому +3

      You have a great taste in music my man