Welcome to the crazy world of UA-cam. No matter what you do, somebody will tell you you're doing it wrong! It's insane the things some of these keyboard warriors will come up with.yes, I use my knife to make fire. I use the tools and materials I have on me or around me that will make the job the easiest. I do sometimes do flint and steel, but that's just for fun more than need. I've even done bow drill fires, although not in quite some time now. To damn much work and my old joints aren't in such great shape anymore. Even then, I still usually split down some kindling with my knife. I do baton with it too, but I am reasonable about what wood I split. I don;t split a 6" log with a 6.25" blade. I try not to pick wood with a ton of huge gnarly knots or twiisted grain. I don't generally split anything over 4" even with a 7" or larger blade, but that's just my choice. I don't rag on anyone who chooses to split an 8" log with their knife. To each their own. Going into the woods is supposed to be for fun and relaxation, so I don't take it so serious. I actually laugh at the guys who get their shorts all twisted because God forbid a knife reviewer decides to baton with their knife. It amazes me how upset somebody can get over something somebody else does with THEIR knife that THEY paid for. It's crazy. And btw, yes, Mors DID actually baton with his knife despite what these haters think. With a stick tang Mora no less. Go figure. He just did it using a bit of common sense.
So very true, good comment👍 These keyboard warriors, aka the true experts are indeed priceless😂, and dare I say creative. Btw. I' ve batoned my old Puukkos all my life. Its something we did already back in the boyscouts in early 90s here in Finland. Nobody thought its somehow a problem.(I learned that from youtube👍) Some still going strong after 30 years of use..
People are amazing. They have no qualms about bluntly telling someone they’re doing something “incorrectly”, usually from the comfort of their own couch. They used to just shout at the TV…now they can actually be heard. In some ways, I liked things the old way! Just keep doing what you’re doing & ignore the negative comments!
A person on youtube made a two foot tall upside-down fire that lasted two days. He grabbed a stick and dug up dirt and put it inbetween the logs. Causing it too burn a lot slower.
@@CommonCentsOutdoorsman I was doing upside-down fires last fall. I'm going too try it too very soon. He grabbed a stick and pointed one end too breakup the dirt. Then the other end made a flat little shovel. Plus I've seen a guy make a three foot tall upside-down fire that lasted all night.
I have a bk2 ka-bar knife. Thing is super heavy and thick. I fully dont need an axe. But yeah i fully agree. The situation will demand the fire type. Im not going too make a long lasting upside-down fire too make my morning coffee. My first day at camp it will be simpler till the days progress.
Most of the time I use a bic lighter, fero rod. Some times I'll use flint and steel, this year, I want to focus on bow drill, fire plow just for fun and practice, it gives me something to do. I'll even make a little bush chair, again not because I think I'm Jeremiah Johnson, but because it's fun to me. That's what people should focus on.
Hahaha, great video! These keyboard warriors are priceless😂 (the most important element of being one is actually NOT go to the woods, making fires, nor use the tools, just theorize about them😂) Thanx for the good laugh my friend, keep up the good work👍
I’ve spent a lot of my 63 years of life living, in wood heated homes, the goal there is to light a fire quickly and efficiently. Out in the bush the same applies. I’d never heard of a feather stick until I discovered UA-cam, when I did I thought “that’s handy to know”. Just because grandpa or dad didn’t do it, doesn’t make it wrong. Stay open minded, who knows who has a better way? With some of the modern steels in knives today, a lot of knives can stand up to hard use, that doesn’t mean all knives are designed for hard use, I certainly wouldn’t use a thin blade to baton wood, but I have several that can take it, and I do use them to make kindling. I admire the people from history, I’m sure if they had 3v steel they’d use it to its full potential, maybe even leaving their axe home occasionally 😂🤣
I think this controversy comes from the fact that knives used to be a lot thinner and less robust than they are today. In the old frontier days people used butcher knives as outdoor knives, and these were not made for batoning through wood. People carried axes or hatchets for that purpose. Times have changed, and the tools that people take into the outdoors has changed with them. How many people carry an axe or even a hatchet when they go hiking or hunting? Many still do, but most do not. Most people carry a knife though, and many fixed blade knives have evolved into tools that can do it all well enough, though not as well as a specialized tool like an axe. To do this they are purposely built more robust with full tangs and thicker blade stock. Steels have gotten more robust as well with CPM 3V and others that are dang near indestructible in any scenario you are likely to encounter in the outdoors. It all comes down to tradeoffs and compromises. Yes, an axe is better tool for chopping and splitting large pieces of wood, but it is also heavy and bulky and less likely to be carried by the average person enjoying the outdoors.
Those quick to criticize, troll, and to tell others they are wrong for doing this or that are generally those with zero experience outside of the unrealistic TV survival “reality” hypotheticals they’ve lived out in their minds. There are more than one correct way of doing many things, such as using different methods for making fire. You don’t always have to use a ferro rod, or friction, or the spine of a carbon steel blade to throw a spark. A BIC lighter works great, too, and with little effort. 😁👍🔥 May not be “traditional” but who cares?
Why would you go to the trouble of purchasing and carrying a knife if you’re not going to use it? As long as you’re safe and you don’t risk an injury to yourself or others does it really matter how you use your knife? Nessmuk said we don’t go into the woods to rough it we go to smooth it. If my knife makes a task easier I’m going to use it.
I've used and enjoyed outdoor fires for years. Never thought the fire starting methods would become a hot topic of discussion. Guessing we won't be able to have trendy fire collections, or elitist and snobby fire collectors though. Maybe you should settle this issue once and for all...write a book..."A Million and One Ways to Start a Fire". If it doesn't sell...you could always have a Fire Sale...or use your book to start fires. Well..back to the real world now...Bye!
Welcome to the crazy world of UA-cam. No matter what you do, somebody will tell you you're doing it wrong! It's insane the things some of these keyboard warriors will come up with.yes, I use my knife to make fire. I use the tools and materials I have on me or around me that will make the job the easiest. I do sometimes do flint and steel, but that's just for fun more than need. I've even done bow drill fires, although not in quite some time now. To damn much work and my old joints aren't in such great shape anymore. Even then, I still usually split down some kindling with my knife. I do baton with it too, but I am reasonable about what wood I split. I don;t split a 6" log with a 6.25" blade. I try not to pick wood with a ton of huge gnarly knots or twiisted grain. I don't generally split anything over 4" even with a 7" or larger blade, but that's just my choice. I don't rag on anyone who chooses to split an 8" log with their knife. To each their own. Going into the woods is supposed to be for fun and relaxation, so I don't take it so serious. I actually laugh at the guys who get their shorts all twisted because God forbid a knife reviewer decides to baton with their knife. It amazes me how upset somebody can get over something somebody else does with THEIR knife that THEY paid for. It's crazy.
And btw, yes, Mors DID actually baton with his knife despite what these haters think. With a stick tang Mora no less. Go figure. He just did it using a bit of common sense.
Right on brother!
A no win situation.
So very true, good comment👍
These keyboard warriors, aka the true experts are indeed priceless😂, and dare I say creative.
Btw. I' ve batoned my old Puukkos all my life. Its something we did already back in the boyscouts in early 90s here in Finland. Nobody thought its somehow a problem.(I learned that from youtube👍)
Some still going strong after 30 years of use..
Good to see you back on here! How I make a fire varies based on what I am trying to accomplish.
Bingo!
The reason i go 2 the bushes is to do my own thing n 2 get away from all bs out n the world . I think 2 each his own ! Have a great eve. From va.
People are amazing. They have no qualms about bluntly telling someone they’re doing something “incorrectly”, usually from the comfort of their own couch. They used to just shout at the TV…now they can actually be heard. In some ways, I liked things the old way!
Just keep doing what you’re doing & ignore the negative comments!
I will and I do brother!
A person on youtube made a two foot tall upside-down fire that lasted two days. He grabbed a stick and dug up dirt and put it inbetween the logs. Causing it too burn a lot slower.
That seems incredible. I'll have to check that out.
@@CommonCentsOutdoorsman I was doing upside-down fires last fall. I'm going too try it too very soon. He grabbed a stick and pointed one end too breakup the dirt. Then the other end made a flat little shovel. Plus I've seen a guy make a three foot tall upside-down fire that lasted all night.
I have a bk2 ka-bar knife. Thing is super heavy and thick. I fully dont need an axe. But yeah i fully agree. The situation will demand the fire type. Im not going too make a long lasting upside-down fire too make my morning coffee. My first day at camp it will be simpler till the days progress.
Most of the time I use a bic lighter, fero rod. Some times I'll use flint and steel, this year, I want to focus on bow drill, fire plow just for fun and practice, it gives me something to do. I'll even make a little bush chair, again not because I think I'm Jeremiah Johnson, but because it's fun to me. That's what people should focus on.
Funcraft is good. Thanks for the great comment brother!
Hahaha, great video! These keyboard warriors are priceless😂
(the most important element of being one is actually NOT go to the woods, making fires, nor use the tools, just theorize about them😂)
Thanx for the good laugh my friend, keep up the good work👍
Thanks so much brother. I appreciate you!
great vid brother! just tell the haters and opinion police to kiss your ass. rock on CCO!! \m/ \m/
I’ve spent a lot of my 63 years of life living, in wood heated homes, the goal there is to light a fire quickly and efficiently. Out in the bush the same applies. I’d never heard of a feather stick until I discovered UA-cam, when I did I thought “that’s handy to know”. Just because grandpa or dad didn’t do it, doesn’t make it wrong. Stay open minded, who knows who has a better way? With some of the modern steels in knives today, a lot of knives can stand up to hard use, that doesn’t mean all knives are designed for hard use, I certainly wouldn’t use a thin blade to baton wood, but I have several that can take it, and I do use them to make kindling. I admire the people from history, I’m sure if they had 3v steel they’d use it to its full potential, maybe even leaving their axe home occasionally 😂🤣
Great comment brother!
I think this controversy comes from the fact that knives used to be a lot thinner and less robust than they are today. In the old frontier days people used butcher knives as outdoor knives, and these were not made for batoning through wood. People carried axes or hatchets for that purpose. Times have changed, and the tools that people take into the outdoors has changed with them. How many people carry an axe or even a hatchet when they go hiking or hunting? Many still do, but most do not. Most people carry a knife though, and many fixed blade knives have evolved into tools that can do it all well enough, though not as well as a specialized tool like an axe. To do this they are purposely built more robust with full tangs and thicker blade stock. Steels have gotten more robust as well with CPM 3V and others that are dang near indestructible in any scenario you are likely to encounter in the outdoors. It all comes down to tradeoffs and compromises. Yes, an axe is better tool for chopping and splitting large pieces of wood, but it is also heavy and bulky and less likely to be carried by the average person enjoying the outdoors.
Couldn't have said it better myself brother!
Those quick to criticize, troll, and to tell others they are wrong for doing this or that are generally those with zero experience outside of the unrealistic TV survival “reality” hypotheticals they’ve lived out in their minds. There are more than one correct way of doing many things, such as using different methods for making fire. You don’t always have to use a ferro rod, or friction, or the spine of a carbon steel blade to throw a spark. A BIC lighter works great, too, and with little effort. 😁👍🔥 May not be “traditional” but who cares?
Right on brother!
Why would you go to the trouble of purchasing and carrying a knife if you’re not going to use it? As long as you’re safe and you don’t risk an injury to yourself or others does it really matter how you use your knife? Nessmuk said we don’t go into the woods to rough it we go to smooth it. If my knife makes a task easier I’m going to use it.
That sums it all up!
I've used and enjoyed outdoor fires for years. Never thought the fire starting methods would become a hot topic of discussion. Guessing we won't be able to have trendy fire collections, or elitist and snobby fire collectors though. Maybe you should settle this issue once and for all...write a book..."A Million and One Ways to Start a Fire". If it doesn't sell...you could always have a Fire Sale...or use your book to start fires. Well..back to the real world now...Bye!
Thanks for the ideas!
quite the ego
How dare you use tools!
A real outdoorsman wouldn’t need tools, clothes or opposable thumbs to survive in the wilderness.😜
Lol, I know.