I met Jack Gibson once at a dinner event. I was a nobody to him but introduced myself. He was such a gentleman and treated me like a somebody. Great man.
I think that it's plain from this interview that Webster and Bennett were just trading blows (in Wayne's Sandpit). I think Mark you nailed it with one of your late responses to a Webster Statement of Fact (SOF). My take is that Wayne with the Dolphin's has finally taken the Chip off his shoulder, Bennett has been extremely successful with mentoring and trust but he knows he has to move on at some point, as much for himself as the discarded player(s). Success has driven him as the drug of choice. I reckon 24/25 he can sit down and allow himself a beer, don't be surprised!that's Bouris, seriously you are one of the best interviewers out there in a thought provoking manner with the genius of words left unsaid.
I hate to say this but I envy hearing people talk about their football clubs because mine is as good as dead. When people say they’re a Dragons fan as their father was etc etc… it proves how the Dragons lost nothing but the Steelers lost everything. They should have signed with Super League and put the survival of the club ahead of certain ARL board positions.
I was only 18 years old and was working in the Northern territory on a cattle station back in 1991. I went into our local pub to have a beer at the Elliott hotel smack bang in the middle of nowhere. I had only had a couple of beers and then noticed this giant of a man walk through the front door of the pub and new straight away that it was the "super coach" Mr Jack Gibson. I knew I hadn't consumed to much grog as it was still only early. I wanted to know what the big man was doing so far from home. I walked up and introduced myself and started chatting to Jack. It turns out that one of the boy's who was working at the station homestead was one of Jack's son's (he had a prosthetic leg apparently a stallion bit it off when he was a kid) Jack explained to me that life in Sydney was to much of a temptation to this boy so he had organised a job in the Territory for him through a man he met in Sydney by the name of Kerry Packer. The cattle station we where working on was Newcastle waters once owned by Consolidated Pastoral (Kerry Packer) I had an unbelievable conversation with arguably the best coach rugby league has ever seen and we never once mentioned football. I believe that's why the great man gave me so much of his time. I only met the man once and in a short period of time found out that family meant so much more to him than Rugby league.
I read this book, very interesting book. Didn’t know anything about his personal life until I read this. Amazing what he’s achieved. Still don’t know whether I like him or not. Hard guy to know.
When you don't have that solid base ie. good present parenting ... you need to build the confidence. So I could definitely see how WB was a very shy person growing up. No-one fully gets just how hard it is to drag yourself out a past where there are plenty of regrets. Especially with a society thats ready to shred anyone who wants to make something out of himself, somehow it hurts watching someone else get ahead.
I think Wayne Bennett is a legend! Past players & current! Many have looked upto him as a father figure! He is probably very wary ! Who he opens up to. As people can take advantage of people's vulnerabilities! He would be vigilant of hes surroundings! Anyone with wisdom! Would be the same!
Webster is about the only NRL journalist with some self-respect & a sense of dignity. Funnily enough, he gets less airtime than the other fools on Fox. At least Webster has his books on Bennett & Gibson that will stand the test of time
The ruthlessness that is alluded to in this video, concerning moving players on is all well and good, but two aspects of it aren't mentioned. One was the policy at the Broncos to let them go a year too early rather than a year too late. The other was the salary cap. Even a player as good as Petero Civoniceva got the chop when they couldn't fit him in under the cap. Then when he could come back to Brisbane, he did. It's not all down to Bennett being heartless about it.
I’ve learned a lot from Wayne. Met him when he was coaching director for the QRL. Never met him again but I’ve learned a lot from watching from a distance. Is he perfect? Hell no. Has he made mistakes? Definitely.
Success I bought The Wolf you Feed. You don't want to but you do. Who knows with these type of books and subject matter, sometimes you get an insight to your own psych
I met WB outside Kogarah oval vs Souths 2009. Put my hand out to shake his hand to thank him for having a pic with a young Saints with me and it was the lamest handshake I've ever had. I straight away thought, he's not straight up legit towards people. It doesn't take a lot to accept a handshake in good spirit.
You ever been to the Pacific island's? Many of the toughest & biggest blokes you'll ever meet don't do handshakes, they're not even a custom in many countries. He shook your's out of courtesy.
@@marksargent2908 yeah true & fair point. Once shook Cam Skeltons hand, younger BIGGER bro of Will.. biggest human I've ever met, born & raised in sth Akl, guess some folk influenced by the environment they're brought up in. But yeah 🤝
Penrith is the bottom feeders because they only became who they are because of a boost in wanting to join Super League. They have nothing to offer in legacy of Rugby League unlike the Roosters, Dragons and Rabbitohs. Penrith is a dump of an area and act like they’re now entitled to stadium upgrade. They’re a nothing club and have achieved nothing unless they had all those support mechanisms. Penrith should’ve been reverted as a feeder club to the Western Suburbs Magpies. Magpies established Rugby League and that’s all they need.
This was a great podcast until you went into the 'it's a Queensland thing" horse shit. It's really about the NRL used to be the NSW Rugby league comp and all the Queensland teams got a raw deal because it wasran by all old nsw bureaucrats. Come on Mark.. you know this
QLDers do have a chip on their shoulder about NSW but in a much more kindred way than Victoria does. When you travel to Melbourne as a Sydneysider you're often reminded about where you are how and how fantastic Victoria is
I think you are grasping some of the truth that eludes those from NSW. It is not a myth that QLD received a raw deal from NSW because it was a fact of the times when Bennet played for QLD and Australia. In his debut match against NSW, three players from the QLD side were sent off (no sin bin in those days) and the penalty count was one sided. The referee was a former NSW/Australia representative but he shamed himself in front of the Lang Park crowd. All through the 70's, the QLD teams were soundly beaten and they were lucky to get one or two of their players into the Australian team. The State of Origin grew out of this 'we are better than you' attitude that was built upon the way NSW Rugby League people viewed the game in QLD. On top of that they poached the best players from QLD every year. I find it strange that journalists and those who support the Blues do not understand what drives the QLD team or coaches like Bennett. The always revert back to the 'arrogant and aloof' stereotype or simply say he is very complex. I think you will agree, that when they say 'the QLD thing', it become obvious that they have missed the key points. I am am glad they are not writing my biography.
@@nichobee Those from Sydney and Melbourne will fight each other forever on this issue. There was a time when NSW were the dominant League side and proved it year after year. There is not a 'chip on the shoulder' as you and others assume. As long as Those from Sydney and Melbourne fight over who is the best, QLD sides have all the motivation and history to make a point. They just really like beating NSW. It is a great thing because NSW has been beaten so many times now they have a point to prove as well. This is why the Origin series is so competitive and will remain so.
I think the most respectful thing we could do for Wayne here is to not comment.
Agree..
One of the last journos with any morality. Great book Andrew, impeccable research.
I met Jack Gibson once at a dinner event. I was a nobody to him but introduced myself. He was such a gentleman and treated me like a somebody. Great man.
I think that it's plain from this interview that Webster and Bennett were just trading blows (in Wayne's Sandpit). I think Mark you nailed it with one of your late responses to a Webster Statement of Fact (SOF). My take is that Wayne with the Dolphin's has finally taken the Chip off his shoulder, Bennett has been extremely successful with mentoring and trust but he knows he has to move on at some point, as much for himself as the discarded player(s). Success has driven him as the drug of choice. I reckon 24/25 he can sit down and allow himself a beer, don't be surprised!that's
Bouris, seriously you are one of the best interviewers out there in a thought provoking manner with the genius of words left unsaid.
Love Wayne Bennett and any teams his coach’s till I die
Feel sorry for you
You can’t find this book on Amazon in the US. I love Wayne Bennett. He’s such an interesting guy.
I'm from Ireland and found it on an Australian online bookstore. It's an outstanding book, really recommend it.
@@ewanfarrell346 Thanks. I’ll get it on Amazon.
I got to meet him a few times through his brother Bob..he is a fascinating character..a very humble and polite gentleman
I like the way you are doing these sessions Mark Bouris.
Outstanding podcast.
Perfect timing for my birthday !
Gonna love tthis read 💯
Perfect timing for my birthday !
Gonna love tthis read
Hot tip for you Mark.. read the guy you're interviewings book before he is a guest on your show🤣
And edit the show, especially the grammar & spelling.
Nah, interviewer gets to ask more questions.
I hate to say this but I envy hearing people talk about their football clubs because mine is as good as dead. When people say they’re a Dragons fan as their father was etc etc… it proves how the Dragons lost nothing but the Steelers lost everything. They should have signed with Super League and put the survival of the club ahead of certain ARL board positions.
From thousands of juniors in the 80s to nil.now the original dragons are dead.
I was only 18 years old and was working in the Northern territory on a cattle station back in 1991. I went into our local pub to have a beer at the Elliott hotel smack bang in the middle of nowhere. I had only had a couple of beers and then noticed this giant of a man walk through the front door of the pub and new straight away that it was the "super coach" Mr Jack Gibson. I knew I hadn't consumed to much grog as it was still only early. I wanted to know what the big man was doing so far from home. I walked up and introduced myself and started chatting to Jack. It turns out that one of the boy's who was working at the station homestead was one of Jack's son's (he had a prosthetic leg apparently a stallion bit it off when he was a kid) Jack explained to me that life in Sydney was to much of a temptation to this boy so he had organised a job in the Territory for him through a man he met in Sydney by the name of Kerry Packer. The cattle station we where working on was Newcastle waters once owned by Consolidated Pastoral (Kerry Packer) I had an unbelievable conversation with arguably the best coach rugby league has ever seen and we never once mentioned football. I believe that's why the great man gave me so much of his time. I only met the man once and in a short period of time found out that family meant so much more to him than Rugby league.
Awesome🤝
Excellent episode.
I read this book, very interesting book. Didn’t know anything about his personal life until I read this. Amazing what he’s achieved. Still don’t know whether I like him or not. Hard guy to know.
When you don't have that solid base ie. good present parenting ... you need to build the confidence. So I could definitely see how WB was a very shy person growing up. No-one fully gets just how hard it is to drag yourself out a past where there are plenty of regrets. Especially with a society thats ready to shred anyone who wants to make something out of himself, somehow it hurts watching someone else get ahead.
I think Wayne Bennett is a legend!
Past players & current! Many have looked upto him as a father figure! He is probably very wary ! Who he opens up to. As people can take advantage of people's vulnerabilities! He would be vigilant of hes surroundings! Anyone with wisdom! Would be the same!
Webster is about the only NRL journalist with some self-respect & a sense of dignity. Funnily enough, he gets less airtime than the other fools on Fox. At least Webster has his books on Bennett & Gibson that will stand the test of time
You nailed “those other fools on Fox.” mate.
The ruthlessness that is alluded to in this video, concerning moving players on is all well and good, but two aspects of it aren't mentioned. One was the policy at the Broncos to let them go a year too early rather than a year too late. The other was the salary cap. Even a player as good as Petero Civoniceva got the chop when they couldn't fit him in under the cap. Then when he could come back to Brisbane, he did. It's not all down to Bennett being heartless about it.
I’ve learned a lot from Wayne. Met him when he was coaching director for the QRL. Never met him again but I’ve learned a lot from watching from a distance. Is he perfect? Hell no. Has he made mistakes? Definitely.
Well, that was interesting. 😊
Good book
Success I bought The Wolf you Feed. You don't want to but you do. Who knows with these type of books and subject matter, sometimes you get an insight to your own psych
All the teams that benett had most of them played for australia i could have coached the bronx to 6 grandfinals to
Do it then.
🙏🏿🙏🏽🙏🏻
You’d never pick Webster as a homosexual but he’s he’s openly out there.
Probably another reason he never became a brickie.
I met WB outside Kogarah oval vs Souths 2009. Put my hand out to shake his hand to thank him for having a pic with a young Saints with me and it was the lamest handshake I've ever had. I straight away thought, he's not straight up legit towards people. It doesn't take a lot to accept a handshake in good spirit.
He doesn’t like shaking hands. Knew him through my father who was a Copper and worked with him.
You ever been to the Pacific island's? Many of the toughest & biggest blokes you'll ever meet don't do handshakes, they're not even a custom in many countries. He shook your's out of courtesy.
@@DominicMcCarthydomo like seriously, different cultures!
@@marksargent2908 yeah true & fair point. Once shook Cam Skeltons hand, younger BIGGER bro of Will.. biggest human I've ever met, born & raised in sth Akl, guess some folk influenced by the environment they're brought up in. But yeah 🤝
Baldy… Give up the sugar and carbs dude 😂
Penrith is the bottom feeders because they only became who they are because of a boost in wanting to join Super League. They have nothing to offer in legacy of Rugby League unlike the Roosters, Dragons and Rabbitohs. Penrith is a dump of an area and act like they’re now entitled to stadium upgrade. They’re a nothing club and have achieved nothing unless they had all those support mechanisms. Penrith should’ve been reverted as a feeder club to the Western Suburbs Magpies. Magpies established Rugby League and that’s all they need.
You lost me at Taylor swift
He calls himself a journo, all the name dropping negative talk about WB, not a very humble professional adult..
This was a great podcast until you went into the 'it's a Queensland thing" horse shit.
It's really about the NRL used to be the NSW Rugby league comp and all the Queensland teams got a raw deal because it wasran by all old nsw bureaucrats. Come on Mark.. you know this
QLDers do have a chip on their shoulder about NSW but in a much more kindred way than Victoria does. When you travel to Melbourne as a Sydneysider you're often reminded about where you are how and how fantastic Victoria is
I think you are grasping some of the truth that eludes those from NSW. It is not a myth that QLD received a raw deal from NSW because it was a fact of the times when Bennet played for QLD and Australia. In his debut match against NSW, three players from the QLD side were sent off (no sin bin in those days) and the penalty count was one sided. The referee was a former NSW/Australia representative but he shamed himself in front of the Lang Park crowd. All through the 70's, the QLD teams were soundly beaten and they were lucky to get one or two of their players into the Australian team. The State of Origin grew out of this 'we are better than you' attitude that was built upon the way NSW Rugby League people viewed the game in QLD. On top of that they poached the best players from QLD every year. I find it strange that journalists and those who support the Blues do not understand what drives the QLD team or coaches like Bennett. The always revert back to the 'arrogant and aloof' stereotype or simply say he is very complex. I think you will agree, that when they say 'the QLD thing', it become obvious that they have missed the key points. I am am glad they are not writing my biography.
@@nichobee Those from Sydney and Melbourne will fight each other forever on this issue. There was a time when NSW were the dominant League side and proved it year after year. There is not a 'chip on the shoulder' as you and others assume. As long as Those from Sydney and Melbourne fight over who is the best, QLD sides have all the motivation and history to make a point. They just really like beating NSW. It is a great thing because NSW has been beaten so many times now they have a point to prove as well. This is why the Origin series is so competitive and will remain so.
Chooks robbed again in that grandfinal benett dog
Wayne Bennett can't beat Craig Bellamy
Craig hasn’t heard of the salary cap..
Boring. Who cares
I'm from nsw Bennett is the best and now billy is taking over 🎉
Haha! We're still Queenslanders! Taking over😂!