The way I see. I do believe that du Barry loved Zamora like a son, but when he was part of the revolution party. She knew she had to send him away which I think broke her heart.
@@suddhadasi actually you forgot one or two details, Madame du Barry took a liking to Zamor thus educating him. In which regards it's definitely like a mother would do for a son.
@@jazminmuro9692 hmmm, ok maybe it's cultural but for me educating someone and loving someone as mother a son are two completely different things. But I understand better your point of view now so thanks for your comment !
When I walked down this hall I instantly understood why anyone would rebel. Imagine living in filth while others lived like this. The whole palace is overkill.
@@Winter-Alpha-OmegaHe brought charges of treason against her to the Public Safety Committee during the French Revolution, testified against her, got her beheaded.
I love ❤ their acting here - it is so genuine. I think, because she is considered sub par and have countless enemies within the court (despite being immune to it) - that alone, makes her embodies some part of quirkiness within her soul, so it is possible to 'channnel' it as distraction towards another things that keeps her busy
Zamor as an adult, during the French Revolution, turned on du Barry and effectively sent her to the guillotine. She found out he was pro-Revolution and dismissed him. Not sure if the situation was avoidable. Certainly he was an unfortunate victim of the culture of the time, and essentially so was she. Nobody won.
German aristocrats were nuts over having black chamberlains, every nobleman worth his salt wanted one in the 18th century. You can see the impact of this trend with many inns being called "the Moor" or moors used in imigary as a symbol of culture and status. Having one was similar to having a rare exotic animal today
This scene is so beautiful. Some paint her (Du Barry) as a monster. I know more about Louis XIV & Louis XVI, not much on Louis XV. Although she may only be noble via title only, she shows such motherly love, affection & human compassion for this child, who much like herself - albeit that she mainly decided on her own preference for security & a better life, was pucked from his mother, his homeland & paraded at court, kept as an asset & companion!
I think it's all tragic all around. Zamor was powerless and he's a slave and sent to serve Du barry. Du barry was a commoner and a sex worker who was elevated to the 'highest' status she could due to the affection of the King. His anger for her for sending him away after he openly supported the Jacobin led to her death by guillotine, a death that recorded her final moments as something real and fearful. Zamor might not have died by that manner, but like you said, he's die in poverty and misery. Neither one had it 'good.' I think the movie was to show some sort of different side of the Du Barry story. 99% of the Du Barry retelling usually was viewed by the other side or via Marie Antoinette's perspective, so all negative. Lives are not just black or white, some shades of gray existed. The movie suggested that there was true affection between the King and Du Barry, and they're also living humans in the past.
The gawking and judgy courtiers (especially the two men) always make me laugh deeply. They are so haughty, gross, jealous and grasping. I adore their shock.
I think there is always the class difference which annoyed men and women. Also, the favorite always had some form of political influence, financial gain for her friends and family. Not entirely sure du Barry had much interest in politics (like la Pompadour) but still.
@@Lafleurbrioche She wasn't interested in direct political power. I understand she had had sufficient education to be interested in art and she seemed to have a heart and often wanted to help individuals with her influence.
@@Lafleurbrioche No she was intelligent and had numerous interests but didn't want to have political power like Pompadour. I give XV credit for a couple tings: not being a SNOB and liking strong women.
@@Satu-zs7gm Heres the painting: images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/louis-benoit-zamor-marie-victoire-lemoine.jpg he looks just like any black boy.
SO WHAT? IT'S A MOVIE AND SHE IS AN ACTRESS. SHE PRODUCED IT AND CAN INTERPRET THE PART AS SHE CHOOSES. DO YOU THINK RICHARD BURTEN LOOKED LIKE HENRY VIII?
I know that...I don't care! She has a right to create the movie and play/interpret the part. If you don't like it that Amber Heard didn't get the role, don't watch it.
@@Satanna.avemaria Nothing! You aren't producing the film and have no say in the matter! You can decide what you think of it and whether to go see it or recommend it to others. That's it. The extent of your power.
it used to be popular to have a black slve child follow you around as a slve or page boy/girl. this went out of style in this period but people still do it apparently, but in England most have sold back their slve
It was common practice to have an "exotic" slve/page/pet of some kind. Basically anyone who was brown or black, or Asian, sometimes even little people. They simply had to be visibly "not white" or unconventional looking, with different skin or a disability, but Black slaves seemed most popular at the time.
@@orchestra6871 Historicial accuracy is not the point of a movie which is an artistic interpretation. Historical accuracy is a DOCUMENTARY. If you don't like the movoe, don't go see it. SIMPLE.
@@Mftjan2000 I don't agree, there are some individuals who do have the right hairstyle in the movie, while the main ones don't, so it was a deliberate choice. A movie like this could be alluring only to those who don't know anything about the XVIII century, otherwise it's just horrible. Movies like "Le Liaisons Dangereuses" (1988) made a pretty good job, so its historical respect is not only for documentaries.
Zamor (christened Louis-Benoit) (1762[1] - February 7, 1820) was a French revolutionary from Bengal,[1][2] who, as a boy of 11, was taken from Chittagong, Bengal Subah, Mughal Empire (now Bangladesh) by slave traders. Later, he was gifted to Countess du Barry and became her servant until informing on her to the Committee of Public Safety. He participated in the French Revolution and was imprisoned by the Girondins.
Oh yeah, a token black character whose only mission is to deminstrate that the heroine and the authors are not racist 🙄 how progressive and thoughtful of the director and the screenwriters 🙄 Idk, may be it's just me, but to me it looks like an ironically racist gesture. They literally gave him zero personality and zero meaning to the story. His whole personality is that he is black and his sole meaning is to show that du Barry is not racist (=she is better than everyone around her).
Idiot, Zamor is a historic character and was a child trafficked to the slave markets and sold to Louis XV procurer. This was not a ludicrous modern attempt to not seem racist. Zamor was real and worked as a valued slave to Madame du Barry. The royals thought the whole world was there for their amusement. It was common for European royals to buy blackamoors as slaves. You see them in portraits. Read your history.
To me, Zamor gets treated like a pet rather than an actual human. I mean, for God’s sakes, they put him in a box AS A GIFT
Remember this was 1700s Europe
They put strippers in cakes that pop out and dance
The kid was lucky he wasn't a slave to the Ottomans or the Indians. He gets to keep his balls.
At 0:59 she doesn't say "You must be far from your country" but she says "How exotic it is." when Zamor tells her his name
mmmm, thanks. That’s different
The way I see. I do believe that du Barry loved Zamora like a son, but when he was part of the revolution party. She knew she had to send him away which I think broke her heart.
He denounced her and got the Committee of Public Safety to arrest and execute Du Barry
There is some historical evidence that she always regarded him as a pet. You can check this out in some well researched sources.
@@suddhadasi actually you forgot one or two details, Madame du Barry took a liking to Zamor thus educating him. In which regards it's definitely like a mother would do for a son.
@@jazminmuro9692 hmmm, ok maybe it's cultural but for me educating someone and loving someone as mother a son are two completely different things. But I understand better your point of view now so thanks for your comment !
@@suddhadasi you're welcome
When I walked down this hall I instantly understood why anyone would rebel. Imagine living in filth while others lived like this. The whole palace is overkill.
Is there nothing Mr Depp can't do? OMG how talented he is, especially in this film.
THAT'S JOHNNY DEPP?
The irony is that this little boy will later betray her, causing her to be executed.
How does he, my dear?
@@Winter-Alpha-Omega that little boy started the french revolution
@@bangla_matir_Chele No, he did not.
@@Winter-Alpha-OmegaHe brought charges of treason against her to the Public Safety Committee during the French Revolution, testified against her, got her beheaded.
Sadly true, the temperament its the origins eventually regained the upper hand.@@cg8397
I love ❤ their acting here - it is so genuine. I think, because she is considered sub par and have countless enemies within the court (despite being immune to it) - that alone, makes her embodies some part of quirkiness within her soul, so it is possible to 'channnel' it as distraction towards another things that keeps her busy
Zamor as an adult, during the French Revolution, turned on du Barry and effectively sent her to the guillotine. She found out he was pro-Revolution and dismissed him. Not sure if the situation was avoidable. Certainly he was an unfortunate victim of the culture of the time, and essentially so was she. Nobody won.
Having black pages in the Royal households of Europe was not uncommon….even at the imperial court of the Romanovs…!!
German aristocrats were nuts over having black chamberlains, every nobleman worth his salt wanted one in the 18th century. You can see the impact of this trend with many inns being called "the Moor" or moors used in imigary as a symbol of culture and status. Having one was similar to having a rare exotic animal today
@@AEIOU05when it fell out of fashion they were sold back to the slavery
Have to see this movie!
This scene is so beautiful. Some paint her (Du Barry) as a monster. I know more about Louis XIV & Louis XVI, not much on Louis XV. Although she may only be noble via title only, she shows such motherly love, affection & human compassion for this child, who much like herself - albeit that she mainly decided on her own preference for security & a better life, was pucked from his mother, his homeland & paraded at court, kept as an asset & companion!
I like his hat.
A child as a gift.. this is so wrong😓
I love Johnny 💖
I was under the impression form something I read, she was actually quite cruel to him at times.
Remember her haters might have written that. She isn't here to defend herself.
I read the same.
@@Mftjan2000 considering he persuaded the Public Safety Committee to execute her, she probably was
Might have been written by those who hated her. But she doted on zamor to the point he spoiled that he wouldn’t even defer to the king. 😊
@@Mftjan2000 Well, he did give evidence against her during the revolution that got her executed.
Zamor died penniless and had no love or support for Du Barry, I don't get the love this film has for her.
I think it's all tragic all around. Zamor was powerless and he's a slave and sent to serve Du barry. Du barry was a commoner and a sex worker who was elevated to the 'highest' status she could due to the affection of the King. His anger for her for sending him away after he openly supported the Jacobin led to her death by guillotine, a death that recorded her final moments as something real and fearful. Zamor might not have died by that manner, but like you said, he's die in poverty and misery. Neither one had it 'good.' I think the movie was to show some sort of different side of the Du Barry story. 99% of the Du Barry retelling usually was viewed by the other side or via Marie Antoinette's perspective, so all negative. Lives are not just black or white, some shades of gray existed. The movie suggested that there was true affection between the King and Du Barry, and they're also living humans in the past.
The Zameister
Harassing the guards is so rude. What is wrong with these people?
The gawking and judgy courtiers (especially the two men) always make me laugh deeply. They are so haughty, gross, jealous and grasping. I adore their shock.
they are jealous because they don't have their own black slave boy?😂
lol...I thought most of the men liked her (thought she was beautiful) but the women despised her.
I think there is always the class difference which annoyed men and women. Also, the favorite always had some form of political influence, financial gain for her friends and family. Not entirely sure du Barry had much interest in politics (like la Pompadour) but still.
@@Lafleurbrioche She wasn't interested in direct political power. I understand she had had sufficient education to be interested in art and she seemed to have a heart and often wanted to help individuals with her influence.
@@Lafleurbrioche No she was intelligent and had numerous interests but didn't want to have political power like Pompadour. I give XV credit for a couple tings: not being a SNOB and liking strong women.
Очень роматичный момент, незнаю правда или нет что Дюбарри отнеслась к негритенку как сыну а он ее предал .
It is hard to know because the Darwinian ideas had not happened yet but there were similar ideas.
Young Omar Sy ?
Zamour was Bengali, wasn’t he?
Bangladeshi
He was a siddi, a community of black people in India.
@@lilykujaqueen4037no😂 even in the painting he looks indian not black
@@lilykujaqueen4037blackwashing slve now😂😂lmao
@@Satu-zs7gm Heres the painting: images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/louis-benoit-zamor-marie-victoire-lemoine.jpg he looks just like any black boy.
1:04 I understand that dissaproving face.
She looks nothing like Jeanne Du Barry
SO WHAT? IT'S A MOVIE AND SHE IS AN ACTRESS. SHE PRODUCED IT AND CAN INTERPRET THE PART AS SHE CHOOSES. DO YOU THINK RICHARD BURTEN LOOKED LIKE HENRY VIII?
@@Mftjan2000 looks nothing like her
I know that...I don't care! She has a right to create the movie and play/interpret the part. If you don't like it that Amber Heard didn't get the role, don't watch it.
@@Mftjan2000 what makes you think I want her to play Du Barry?
@@Satanna.avemaria Nothing! You aren't producing the film and have no say in the matter! You can decide what you think of it and whether to go see it or recommend it to others. That's it. The extent of your power.
They kept black people as pets?
yes like Bridgerton
Cope
You nailed it
@@emrestotheemresto9770you seem to be the one that’s coping
@@caroleclark9786 for what sissy
Why did he gift her a random child ?,?
it used to be popular to have a black slve child follow you around as a slve or page boy/girl.
this went out of style in this period but people still do it apparently, but in England most have sold back their slve
it heighten the whiteness of your skin
also a status symbol that you were rich, they also decorated them in diamonds to show off
It was common practice to have an "exotic" slve/page/pet of some kind. Basically anyone who was brown or black, or Asian, sometimes even little people. They simply had to be visibly "not white" or unconventional looking, with different skin or a disability, but Black slaves seemed most popular at the time.
He gave her a pet basically.
It was popular in that period to have dwarfs at court it was a thing don't know if they were sevants or just entertainment
Hairstyles are totally wrong, it makes the movies unwatchable...
The HAIR is what stopped you? How the heck did you get past the other 10,000 things that would turn people off? What a lousy movie.
Only to shallow people.
@@Mftjan2000nope, only to who is at least a bit aware of the historical accuracy is.
@@orchestra6871 Historicial accuracy is not the point of a movie which is an artistic interpretation. Historical accuracy is a DOCUMENTARY. If you don't like the movoe, don't go see it. SIMPLE.
@@Mftjan2000 I don't agree, there are some individuals who do have the right hairstyle in the movie, while the main ones don't, so it was a deliberate choice. A movie like this could be alluring only to those who don't know anything about the XVIII century, otherwise it's just horrible. Movies like "Le Liaisons Dangereuses" (1988) made a pretty good job, so its historical respect is not only for documentaries.
During this period it was popular for courtiers to have dwarves with them but since it would be considered racist they used a child instead
What are you talking about? Zamor was a real person gifted to the countess by the king.
Zamor (christened Louis-Benoit) (1762[1] - February 7, 1820) was a French revolutionary from Bengal,[1][2] who, as a boy of 11, was taken from Chittagong, Bengal Subah, Mughal Empire (now Bangladesh) by slave traders. Later, he was gifted to Countess du Barry and became her servant until informing on her to the Committee of Public Safety. He participated in the French Revolution and was imprisoned by the Girondins.
Could they find more beautiful and young actress for this role?
She produced the film in order to play du Barry, it's basically a passion project
A little Murderer.....💀
Oh yeah, a token black character whose only mission is to deminstrate that the heroine and the authors are not racist 🙄 how progressive and thoughtful of the director and the screenwriters 🙄 Idk, may be it's just me, but to me it looks like an ironically racist gesture. They literally gave him zero personality and zero meaning to the story. His whole personality is that he is black and his sole meaning is to show that du Barry is not racist (=she is better than everyone around her).
Idiot, Zamor is a historic character and was a child trafficked to the slave markets and sold to Louis XV procurer. This was not a ludicrous modern attempt to not seem racist. Zamor was real and worked as a valued slave to Madame du Barry. The royals thought the whole world was there for their amusement. It was common for European royals to buy blackamoors as slaves. You see them in portraits. Read your history.
In some cases it is innacurate. In this case it is very accurate. Zamor was a big part of court life and drew a lot of attention