Cops Discover Missing Kids Hidden on Predator's Compound
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2023
- In today's true crime documentary and journalistic news piece, we're covering the case of John Coltharp and Samuel Shaffer and analyzing it from an educational legal and psychological perspective.
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The guy who said "I'm not sworn I'll let him dangle from a helicopter to get him to talk" is my hero.
Yeah I love it he deserves recognition a real vigilante
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The cop showing the traumatized little girls a glow stick trying to distract them from the terrible situation deserves so much respect.
I agree with you 💯
Those cops are princes!
No it doesn't. The girls were freezing yet not one of those officers thought to take off his jacket and wrap it around the girls. How many times did the officer ask the girls if they were hungry? The first time he asked them if they were hungry another officer should have been sent to get food with that info being conveyed to the girls. Asking 2 or 3 more times?! The little girl who didn't want to come out of the barrel, a) the officer was the adult, kids don't always do what is best for themelves and b) the first priority is the overall physical well being of these girls.. She should have been immediately picked up and taken to warmth. Wrap that rug thing around her or the officer's jacket, anything. just get her to warmth. Listening to these cop talking to these little girls they were clearly not completely comfortable interacting with kids and they're probably all fathers. There is a YT video of cops raiding a motel room where a man who had kidnapped a 7 yr girl was holed up with the child. The man kept her naked. A cop immediately picked her up to get her away from that situation with and a 2nd cop, maybe 10 seconds later, asked "can we get her a blanket or a towel" and covered her. They were both male cops and they not only were their priorities right, the way they were so comfortable talking to her, these are men who interact with their own kids all the time.
@@user-tn3hw9kc8q shut up
There’s always someone that can’t help but find a negative in such a horrible situation. SAVE YOUR NEGATIVITY FOR THE FATHER N GRANDPARENTS OF THESE CHILDREN NOT THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO THANK GOD RESCUED THE CHILDREN N ARE PROBABLY IN A STATE OF SHOCK THAT ANYONE WOULD DO SUCH A THING TO THEIR OWN CHILDREN BECAUSE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE HUMAN.
Shit genuinely makes me sick.
We put animals down for biting children, but we leave full grown adults who have traumatized them alone.
The system and government are predators themselves for allowing them to be scot free
I agree 1000%. Animals are easily trained. There is no fixing a ped. ⚰️
Great point
Or if you’re MAGA you nominate them for president
MAGA? That's a weird thing to call the supporters of creepy hair-sniffing Joe. @@ElTee842
Notice how the detective starts to rock back and forth in his chair while finding out more from Sam. This is a clear indication of an individual wanting to rip someone's face off.
Hehe true
As a mother I could never do this job, I’d be trigger happy
@@madisonrose1576I think a few of those officers were inches from losing it. Especially officer "I'm not sworn, I'll dangle his ass out the helicopter to make him talk." I also don't blame these officers in the slightest. I know I'd be tempted, especially mid search when their loves are still at risk.
Time stamp?
@@madisonrose1576as a regular dude with any sort of sensibilities whatsoever, I couldn't do it either. I'd be trigger happy, too. Shit is *deeply* unsettling.
The little girl saying” can they just kill him?” about her father has to be one of the most heartbreaking parts of this.
She’ll feel like that til she’s 50
This response confuses me, what do you mean till she's 50? @@chayacarney5873
Yet you think go she knows what he deserves for all that
I beg to differ. I'm happy she values herself at such a young age. To know that whoever does atrocious things to her doesn't deserve to breathe.
She may have over heard it or was used to hearing it said 😮
Hearing a middle aged man talk about checking an 8 and 4 year old for a hymen is one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I’ve EVER heard. These people don’t deserve freedom, prison or even life.
Truth! DP for all!
It's extremely common for religious men to treat their daughters this way. Purity culture is abhorrent and harmful to women and especially young girls
@@brookewiththehair4884Eighteen and counting comes to mind.
Yeah, it can make you feel physically sick hearing this interview.
@@brookewiththehair4884 Common for religious men? Are you kidding me?
Only Cultists like that of the Hindu, islamists and the Mormons act like this. Outside of those cults it's incredibly rare to put that kind of attention on it, ESPECIALLY IN YOUNG CHILDREN LIKE YOU SUGGEST.
god, i’m so thankful that that police officer was so soft and sweet with the poor girls. he was so gentle and careful with them, you could tell that they weren’t scared of him.
The first officer when yelling to get them out of the barrels I wasn’t feeling at first
@@RicheeBethis is one of the very few times in my life that I'm gonna defend a cop, he was still looking for two other children and wanted nothing more than for all four of them to be safe, the amount of adrenaline has to have been on another planet.
@@RicheeBethe priority at the time was locating the girls, it wasn't meant to be abrupt or rude. knowing the context, I fully understand why he was in a rush and needed to be listened too.
@@RicheeBeyes because it’s time sensitive. He needs to get them the hell out and find the others. He did a great job while probably freaking TF out inside. He can hardly talk he’s so out of breath. The police did the best job and were incredible with them.
You could hear the urgency in their voices, you could hear them protecting them
I cannot deal with the fact that the grandfather was asked what the age of consent was and he guessed puberty. Absolutely disgusting. All four of those adults should have been put in jail for the rest of their natural lives, the grandparents as well because it is clear they were completely willing to deliberately stay ignorant, to the point of self-delusion, just so they didn't have to confront the sick shit that their son was doing.
Under the jail.
Yeah I'm so disgusted with that answer. In their mind, that is totally okay. Authority should lock these evils forever!!
Notice how Grandpa says “ the person who had been given”? He doesn’t want to say that little girl or call her by her name because then he would admit to him thinking of her as a person. He disgust me!
Jail is too good for this kind of sick. More like ride coach, one way to HELL!
Yeah, I can't get over the slap on the wrist that the grandparents got. Those pieces of doodoo are two of the root causes of this whole horrifying debacle. Not always, but often horrible people have horrible parents. Hopefully, these girls can break free of this cycle.
“How could she be pregnant, she’s only 8.” Not “How could she be pregnant, I would never touch her in that way she is a child.” That’s ALL you need to hear to know exactly what they did to those children.
I just commented this myself. Wtf?
That was a clear give away.
Always critically process words. The way they're put together like a puzzle to a whole picture
Sadly there have been cases of precocious puberty and quite young children impregnated by evil people. How extremely disgusting this whole situation is.
These men are heathens, the spawn of Satan, and these detectives are angels.
The man saying "I'm not sworn, I'll dangle his ass out of a helicopter to make him talk" was so damn based. God, it was gut-wrenching hearing the girls telling them what had happened and saying how cold and hungry they were.
Hey, we're all thinking it too....
Angel right there. One of Gods warriors
I heard one of them say " want me to pull out the beard hair "? cause the trooper really wanted too cause u can hear it in his voice
He hated that evil man
@@rogerelzenga4465 I was thinking worse
"I'm hungry, but I'm not starving, but I am hungry." Hurts my heart in ways it's never hurt before. Poor little babies deserved to be loved, protected, and cherished. Not abused, hurt, and betrayed.
Yep. She's probably been taught to tolerate hunger as a norm with these men. :(
"I'm not sworn, I'll take him up and dangle him tell he talks" I love that man.
I recently heard someone say...Dogs are killed when they hurt a child, but P3d0-files get to live...
Specicism.
Dogs are animals. Animals are gonna be animals. But if a human does it, “5 years in prison!!1!” Is the outcome. Really shows how great humanity is.
Its also a lot worse when its humans because they 100% know what they're doing.
Even When The Dogs Do It On Accident,Not Fair :(
and 9 times out of ten it's because of irresponsible owners letting their dogs around kids. humans who make the decision to harm a child get more leniency than a ransom dog who doesn't know better.
The lack of *serious* charges for the grandparents is outrageous. The children were obviously neglected. And the fact that the girls were all in dresses even in the freezing cold is very disturbing…
Not just that, but the one child that was in the barrel didn’t have her pants on.
Even the mom honestly
Absolutely this.
@@addyperez7397even the mums mum. She willingly let her underage daughter dally off with a predator like it was any normal Tuesday .
All people involved are disturbed.
Exactly!!! The lack of empathy when told they were left out in freezing conditions for 24 hours or the fact that it was clearly obvious their granddaughters were being abused, these people are callous af
The fact that the little girl can differentiate from being hungry and being starving is heartbraking
The little voices are breaking my heart. Those men need prison justice.
Yeah this time the cops and judges ain’t serving justice, they’re sending them to people that will!
They’ll get it!
The amount a 4 year old girl would have to go through to reply 'can't they just kill him?' after hearing her fathers going to prison. That was so heartbreaking. I hope these children go on to have bright futures. ❤
not likely but i do too
That kid is smarter than our entire legal system
When did she say that?
@@userbunnyit’s right near the end. Last 5 mins or so.
They should have. The justice system wont help.
The dude who said he’d dangle him out of a helicopter to get answers is my new hero straight up said I’ll go to jail to get these answers. All these officers and people who helped the investigation, like the man who called in the tip, are heroes.
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Its time the public takes note in the culture of UTAH with all these kids used as social, entrapment, & religious PAWNS! Ruby_Franke- Jodi_Hild- Lori_Vallow- Chad_Daybell- Alex_Cox- Megahn_Huntsman- Josh_Powell too many !
Agree 💯
This!!
The way Sam describes how it's legal because John gave him permission, they both think of their children as objects especially the girls
Yep. The boys are objects to dispose of; the girls are objects to own and do with as they wish. It's sick.
A 4 year old saying "can they just kill him" is absolutely insane. Hope these two men are getting theirs in prison.
Those kids broke me when they said “ I’m hungry but not starving “ so graceful and innocent poor angels.
They were probably used to being very hungry.
Yeah i bet their “dad” drilled that distinction into them.
That line was the first time I cried.
Me too
How does a child know the difference if they haven't been there? 😢
When he said “how can she be pregnant she’s only 8.” That gave me chills. Instantly felt sick. What a foul foul individual. He doesn’t deny the act, he just says it’s not possible because of her age…
Same I knew right then he had been sexually abusing her.
what? that doesnt imply shit
Looks like you're like practicing for your case
My ex's mom raped him and got pregnant when he was 10 and raised his kids
What the heck are people commenting here are you guys supporting a pedophile? Also scientifically things that aren't said like that but implied are definitely telling and what Police use sometimes to form a hunch before doing further investigation. No it's not 100% but given the situation why are you guys defending this monster... Westlake people in these comments sections are apparently pedophile supporters what the heck
1:11:21 did the grandfather just refer to his baby granddaughter as "the person that was promised to him by Sam"???? like it was so casual, nonchalant
This guys chill whoopsie poopsie attitude is surreal to watch -he laughs nervously while the babies he literally stored outside like furniture are being rescued. What was that guy’s thought process??? This shit is terrifying AF!!!
He's a pdf file and was initially just hoping they wouldn't find out about his trafficking scheme
stored outside like furniture 💀💀💀
How an entire four grown-ass adults all living together can completely lack empathy for the children is beyond me.
It's GENERATIONAL SIN that's passed down from fathers to sons. These men are absolutely disgusting and EVIL. The Grandparents sound very complicit in the abuse of the children. The whole family is EVIL 😈 💀
While you would want them to, they were brainwashed and they were going with the cult leader because they believed in the cause and as they said didn't do anything wrong. As an outside looking in of course we know it's truly wrong but they can also plead reason of insanity or delusion. This really only qualifies in cases such as this where the Grandparents themselves didn't do anything and were providing all the finances and were being mislead by John and Sam. It is very rare to get this, but the grandparents clearly as the interrogations went on saw how brainwashed they were. That is how clever Cult leaders and those with anti social disorders really are.
These individuals were likely raised to think children were sexual beings, therefore don’t realize how gross it truly is. It happens often and always has.
Psychopaths.
Anyone can become a monster under the right circumstances.
I’ve seen harsher sentencing for less horrific crimes. I don’t understand. It feels like the system protects rapists and pedophiles more than victims.
Totally agree with you
Through out my research of these kinds of of cases I always see pattern. The victim isnt dead. The system doesn't care unless the life was taken. Even if it's a child. It's sickening, honestly.
It does "feel like," it is true.
Then don't ever vote for a Democrat at any level of government.
it's because the powers that be are also pedophiles. 20 thousand kids go missing in the US alone every year. Thats far too many to just be these circumstantial occurrences. there is a legit market for kids. It's disgusting and i hope it all gets uncovered soon.
I like how the narrator just keeps repeating "And it gets more horrifying than anyone could imagine." Without revealing the most horrific part. Cracks me up lol
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The truth is far more sinister (dot dot dot)
I’ve been binging this channel for like the last two days just getting madder and madder at most of these criminals, but this is the first video that brought me to tears
same probably the worse one ive watch
The punishment for this type of abuse is too lenient. Our laws need to change.
Especially with the rate of reoffense and the damage it does. This is not something that has been proven to respond to therapy intervention like a person with a DWI 3x who needs to get help for alcoholism. This is entirely different.
It makes me sick.
@@blackdandelion5549 the 4th DUI it’s actually a felony in Wisconsin instead of one.
Prison justice might do it.
@@elizabethloyd3713 yeah I was thinking general population might "fix" the issue the justice system typically can't.
I can't be the only one outraged the grandparents didn't get prison sentences! They knew exactly what was going on & did NOTHING to protect those children.
It's going to be a long long road of recovery for these kids & I pray they make it.
I'm big mad!!!
🙋♀️😡😡😡oh yeah😢🤬🤯🤬mad, crying, knots in my throat and stomach…traumatizing hearing it 😢
seriously, it’s absolutely infuriating
Satanic to say the least, these little ones are mentally destroyed, not to mention there inner parts, vomit, hears stand up, I'll, no faith in humanity, this is beyond psychotic
I know from having dated a woman who, after we were well involved, told me the horrors of her treatment by her step-father, these girls will survive but will never be ok. It will affect them their entire lives. No punishment is too harsh for these evil adults.
Bruh this entire thing is sickening. If my son or any family member came to me and said they have a young child “promised and waiting” for them to become legal…it’d be over for them
Yep, they would regret ever telling me any of that.
Those police officers were so incredibly sweet to the girls. I cannot imagine how terrified they were.
I am a rape & dv survivor. I was only 5 when my nightmare started. My uncle groomed, raped, sold, & brainwashed me. I was put through & witnessed horrific things. Hearing the babygirl say “I have no pants on!” Broke me 😭. If a human being can do this to children they shouldn’t be walking among us PERIOD!! P3D0S WILL NEVER CHANGE! I am so thankful I broke free at 11 years old. I still have trauma & will continue to heal until the day I pass away.
Honey that was the point i broke down.
I’m so sorry you were put through that trauma! My heart breaks for you and any other child who is abused this way. I admire your strength. I pray for you to have peace and happiness for the rest of your days… 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I am truly so sorry to you and all the innocent victims of these types of sick and evil people. My heart ache for you, and I know I don’t know you but it truly hurts my heart to hear that anyone has to go through any of this. Life these days is so difficult even for people without this type of trauma and so I hate to think about normal everyday issues being added to those who have already suffered so much ❤️🩹Sending you and all victims virtual hugs and prayers that you are okay, and safe
😢 you're so strong and brave to share that I'm so grateful you found freedom I pray that you continue to grow as a person in this world knowing that what happened to you doesn't define you nor did it break you u are so blessed be sure to thank God for having him hand on you then and now
You aren’t just a survivor… you are a warrior! I’m so sorry you had to go thru such trauma but I’m so proud that you have fought and I hope and wish you find true happiness and love in your life. ❤❤❤
The fact that the CHILD asked if they could just kill the father really shows just how much it affected them. I really really hope they get better mentally and I hope they lead long, successful lives and they can put this all behind them.
It shocked me when she said it. All I hope is that they can heal.
@@tinglelingaling6 Time heals all wounds, they say. Whether the amount of time needed to heal exists in our lifetime... that's debatable, and questionable. For me, it's been 32 years and I haven't recovered yet.
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@@chocolatecoveredgummybears Almost at the end of the video, check the last 5 minutes
I really wish it was that simple but America has a Prison System to uphold.
The two guys finding the girls and offering them pizza has me in tears I can't even imagine how they were living and these guys showing them a glow stick and being so sweet to them was the kindness they needed, truly angels 🪽
I’m really glad all the kids got to go back with Micah, including Sam’s. She seems like she has some difficulty with her own emotions but she cares, wants the best for them, and is familiar to them. Her mother also seems willing to be supportive and involved. I hope that they’re doing better and have started to regain some normalcy in their lives.
I was raped at the age of 7 for almost 5 years. I hope this words reach those beautiful girls & it gives them the strength it gave me. “TODAY I LEARNED THAT EVERY CELL IN OUR ENTIRE BODY IS REPLACED EVERY SEVEN YEARS. HOW LOVELY IT IS TO KNOW ONE DAY I WILL HAVE A BODY YOU WILL HAVE NEVER TOUCHED “
I'm on year six, wish me luck 🤞❤
@@somethingsomethingsarcasmwait what? Are you okay...??
@@PearlsAndWhirls physically yes, mentally... probably not but hey È così y'know?
thanks for asking though!
Then I'm even happier in thought that my body at this point has only been touched by my husband.
@@somethingsomethingsarcasmi genuinely hope you get out of that situation and heal as much as physically and mentally possible.. much love ☹️❤️
The judge who gave such lenient sentences to these people should be investigated and fired!!
You meant the jury?
@captainobvious6070 juries don't handle down sentences they only decide if they are guilty or not. Judge was very lenient
You know what? The judge knows the case better than you do so.... yeah
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Judge has to follow the book, it was likely a lenient State
@@captainobvious6070Juries don’t decide the sentence.
The irony of your name 🤣
"they saw their child sons as competition, and threatened to kill them if they got close to their sisters."
EXCUSE ME WHAT?!??!!!!
Most sane biblical literalist.
I've heard this before, in the LDS, men see their sons as competition. If you watch the show "sister wives" you would notice how demeaning and belittling Kody Brown is toward his sons.
Comment is underrated.
The uneducated audacity of these men obsessing over a hymen in these little girls is disgusting. A hymen is so fragile that it can break from literally anything, whether it be a period, playing sports, and many other things. It doesn't have to be from an "impure" action. Ugh. Regardless of the facts, these men are abhorrently gross.
Listening to this mom hyperventilate about her young daughter being married to a full grown man is so heartbreaking. She was also manipulated as a young girl too. I really really feel for her. I hope her, her children, and the other two girls are able to eventually find some peace.
I just sobbed when they found the two girls in those barrels..& thier mother, gut wrenching. She probably became to old to interest the monster. God have mercy😩
Praying for these innocent 4 little girls.
@ginnycleary-zq2pu also, the 2 little boys, they were left far from their camp and had to follow their footprints to fond their way back. They were also instructed not to have anything to do with their sisters and the other 2 girls. Who knows what else they had to endure 😢.
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She did nothing to prevent it.She claims she stayed for financial reasons.She did not follow up and did not fight for custody or even harrass CPS to check on their well being.Pretending to be shocked at his CULT behavior,doesnt fly.
The grandparents are sickening. They knew that the whole “marriage” with literal children was wrong, but they just let it slide because they didn’t wanna believe their son was a pedophile. And they also allowed John and Micah to be together when she was 16 and he was an adult, so they hadn’t ever done anything to stop his behavior
didnt micah say that johns parents didnt care? despicable people
@@LD-mu4eg yes and even allowed it as well
they don't get this way in one generation. and this imbecilic moronic blind brainwashed devotion to 'family no matter what they've done' needs to be altered. family is the strongest unit, but only when they are healthy. however, evil NEEDS to be exposed and shunned. and parents are NOT doing anyone a favor by shielding their spawn and ilk.
The grandparents should go to prison.
The "MOTHER"saying that she put up with all this for financial reasons?!
micah worked so hard to make a better and different life for her children. she’s a wonderful woman and i hope she’s doing okay🩷
“Girls can consent to sex when they hit puberty” says grandpa who was totally also involved
OMG
Nahhh for real, bro had to have definitely been involved
To all those not paying attention to what they hear, it was THE HELICOPTER PILOT NOT (A COP)who said he'd like to DANGLE (NOT THROW) the creep out of the helicopter until he said where he'd put the girls. I fully agree with this wonderful man.
Liberal or conservative, it would be sad to say this man said something wrong. But watch an internet pussy will reply with some condescending bullshit because they got some shit to hide. Props to you!!!
Yup. He first said I'm not sworn in..
@@krookiemonster2673exactly!! saying he’s not sworn in so he swore no oath to follow the same rules/beliefs so he could definitely do more to get the info out of that sicko!
He did say throw at first lol
@@emclovin6962even then though the cops couldn’t let him do it as the defense could say the police allowed him to be tortured and then say that his clients rights were violated and potentially get the charges dropped. I can’t imagine how officers deal with this situations where they want to do something to keep these kids safe but know that doing anything outside the law would derail the investigation
Custody doesn't give you the right to abuse kids. And you don't "own" children 🙄 the level of dehumanizing of these vulnerable children. Sickening.
I would like to point out, that it would be illegal to do to dogs, what was done to these kids.
@@hopefulskeptic42 It's...illegal to do to kids as well.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 um.
Read it again.
I think it's going over your head.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 I think they meant it would be illegal to do to dogs, let alone children.
Bartering with children’s lives. 😡
I really appreciate the cops trying to entertain the kids to hide the fact that they are in a very serious case, trying to ease their mind by showing them some tricks.
Checking a little girl to see if her hymen is intact speaks volumes to the perversion forced on these children. These men, so called "fathers", using religion to justify what they did is appalling. I'm so happy these little girls were rescued, and now have a chance of a healthy, normal life, and receive all the protection and love they deserve.
In ANY sexual abuse cases the predators should automatically be locked up for life. There is NO rehabilitation for these types of people.
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true but instead they get little time only
I have heard that in prison, predators catch it.
Nope the person that did it to my was a prior offender.
@@lisaanndavis3289 Unfortunately not often enough. Many prisons have secure wings or cells for them because otherwise yea they get stomped out on the regular.
the fact these grown adults allowed their grandchildren to be assaulted like this might explain how john turned out to be the way he is
I am one of the Coltharp’s grandkids and I just stumbled across this video. I haven’t seen my uncle in almost a decade but I see my grandparents every few months and they’ve talked about this situation before. I don’t condone my uncle’s actions at all and I think both him and Sam deserve to rot in that cell, but I’m honestly kind of surprised by the comments about my grandparents. They did do nothing to stop John, but there was more going on than they described in the video. I’m not sure if I’m getting the details of this story right, but there was one time my grandpa said that one time John took him and my grandpa out to a hill and held them there for hours at gunpoint, threatening to shoot if they moved, because my grandpa suggested that they would call the police. John did horrible things to them just as he did to the kids and they pretty much couldn’t stop him or else they would be murdered. So the comments saying that they willingly did it are upsetting to me.
Also the comment in the video about him distracting himself from the topic because he’s leaning to the side bothered me. My grandpa has horrible hips and a horrible back and he’s had many surgeries. When he’s sitting he’s constantly leaning and moving like he was in the video. It’s just how he sits.
I already knew about most of the stuff in this video so it wasn’t too surprising, but it was just interesting to see the actual interrogations and such, as someone related to this awful person. This event affected everyone in the family and I actually saw Micah and my cousins right after it happened several years ago (before she shunned our side of the family). Back then I was younger and didn’t really understand the situation much but now I realize how wide the scope was. Its very depressing and outraging that someone in my family is such a horrible person.
The closest I’ve gotten to seeing my wretched uncle in the last few years has been driving past the Gunnison Supermax Prison every time I go to visit my family in Spring City. I hope I never actually see his face though.
man this is a really long comment but I just thought I should share my perspective and also the perspective that my family has had after hearing about more than this video shows from our grandparents themselves. Its been a wild decade.
@@thisismyname-br8qtjust hope the best for u and the worst for all the adults who did nothing to save u
They are monsters, everyone except the poor children this is madness, everyone is insane.
Cold, senseless monsters. Who hears two children were trapped in a barrel for 24 hours and just goes, “okay” 1:16:30
Everyone in this family is cold, and senseless. More scared for themselves, than the children who were being extremely abused.
He didn't turn out, psychopaths are born. They actually show the signs of victims of psychopathic coercion. Of course they are responsible as adults tho, and I think their sentences are shait
This is one of the most horrific cases I've ever heard. John and Sam don't deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us. Despicable grandparents. My hats off and Big respect to all of the officer's, medical personnel, clerks and anyone who was involved with this case. 🖤💙🖤
This makes me really sad that the little girl sad Sam said " dont let them look at me with my pants off". This is so disturbing and i know sam will get what he deserves in prison.
The “worst thing” to the grandfather was that his credit was ruined? Not that his grandkids were neglected and sexually abused? Can’t believe those old scumbags weren’t charged with more.
Most moral boomer
Probably was also doing things to the kids.
As someone who lived in a church about 50% as bad, I can 100% guarantee you that guy has fiddled kids as well.
It's what they ussually make an initiation to make certain the guard-characters who enforce the cult leader's will won't ever go to the outside world (since they know they're getting decades in prison if the cult breaks)
He probably started the cycle.
You’re right about him starting the cycle and having no problem having access to kids off the grid lmao he isn’t as innocent and naive as he’s making it out to be
"I didn't see anything wrong" said the grandmother. How can you accept that your own adult son says that he will marry somebody else's daughter when she turns 18? This whole family is so twisted.
Right, every time she said she didn't see anything inappropriate after she just said the girls were calling themselves their WIVES I was like wtf are you talking about? You just said a 7 year old is saying she is the WIFE of your adult son... what is wrong with these people?
The Mormon religion warps peoples minds. It's disgusting how much of this shit comes out that cult.
Muhammad and joseph smith didn't even wait.
@@calvaryapologetics Yes, but we’re all living in 2023-24 (or later) now…so people should know better.
@@leannemo7382 I guess I just don't know better than :)
i really appreciate the guy who was distracting them. he was calm and kind, giving them a break from all the loud scary things happening. i hope those sweet children are thriving and safe now xx
I’ve watched about a dozen of this channel’s videos describing brutal murders and horrible psychopaths. But this may be the the most horrific and gut wrenching of them all.
The officers that worked so hard not only to find these kids but to comfort them and distract them while they waited for medical help deserve so much credit. Those girls must've been so cold and terrified and I'm sure every little thing made a difference.
Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more. This is just so sad, crazy, and 100% F*CKED all around.
Does anyone know what happened with Sam’s two girls? Also, I think I missed some key information about everyone’s relation to one another. I was listening while cleaning. But, was the mother married to BOTH MEN? John first at 16, then Sam later in life? And all 6 children are hers? That part confused me, and I know I definitely missed some key background information.
I agree! They were amazing!! My heart was just melting over how they loved and cared for them!
took the four year old ages to come out of barrel and 1st she didnt want to come out because she didnt have any pants. No water or food or toilet all night terrified
It must be hard being a cop in Utah the weirdo state
@@lindsaymiller1406 Sam's two girls were the ones the officers found right after catching him iirc! For the other confusing bits, Mica met John at age 16 and married him when she was 19, Sam is John's friend and not married to her (I think so at least, there was a lot of information to take in all at once in this video)
Edit: Correction, just got to the part after the barrels and the 4 year old girl was John's youngest daughter whilst the 7 year old girl was Sam's oldest. John's oldest daughter and Sam's youngest were the ones found later!
The grandparent’s should be held more accountable!! This family is disgusting. Poor kids, I really hope they are doing better and are recovering.
agreed, the wife said they let it happen while living there
Wholeheartedly agree!
bunch of nasties 😡🤬😈
Deep down I feel like John sister is happy that they exclude her nd the kids from visiting
Exactly
Sam is so incredibly weird holy shit, like he's so inept at the same time as being so sinister
Actually having an officer taking the time out to get some pizza and glow sticks just made me tear up
The 4 year old said, " can they just kill him?" in regards to her father. She and the other 5 children suffered horribly. It is terrible that there are people who can be so cruel to children.
I missed that WOW
I know. How terrible they had obviously been treated, and to hear that coming from a 4 year old. It was heartbreaking
@@deniseblackburn33its at the end of the video
I know even if their punishments on earth aren’t what they deserve. God will judge them one day.
The child was worried about what might happen to her father after hearing he was going to jail. You might think that these children ought to hate the fathers but that is not how it works. Note how when taken in initially the one child says she just wants to see her father. It is not unusual for an abused child to keep quiet about abuse to protect someone that they actually still care about deeply.
So disturbing. Those “grandparents” should be in prison for life as well. I hope those poor children are getting the therapy they will need.
The mother is crazy too, these kids are in trouble for the rest of their lives.
@@GingerCC-he8beshe was groomed too. She's lucky her mom snapped her out of it
@@GingerCC-he8bewhere are you getting this from? Incels will hate any women no matter what.
@@GingerCC-he8beShe was mentally with it enough to realise isolating them from other children & not ensuring they were homeschooled properly was detrimental to their well being. Also, he was 21 when they met & he groomed her from age 15. That's going to impact your emotional maturity & mental health. 15 is a CHILD.
@@sarahholland2600 there is no excuse for not protecting your children from this evil. These girls are not getting help now. She has proven that she is so damaged she cannot be a mother.
I don’t believe the grandparents didn’t know what was happening with those girls at all. The whole reason they followed their son to that compound is because they believed that the end of times were near, but then John and Sam have 10+ years to wait until those children were “of age”. Make it make sense
How do you think John ended up that way?. Wasn't all nature, most of it seemed to be nurture .
the fact that Micah was 16 when John was 21... and then what he did to those poor children?? it shows that people like him NEVER change.
As someone wise once said
"All children deserve parents but not all parents deserve children "
Ain't that the truth ...
man u spitting fr…
Nobody has ever "deserved" children. Children are always made for someones pleasure or out of egoism. And people who think they're capable of having children are 100% not.
Facts
@@fartcannon-wg5olyou're not wrong but there's also more than those two motivations for having kids. Humans are far too complex to limit them to two reasons. 😅 I mean just look at colts in general a lot of people in polygamous cults believe it is their godly duty to bring children into this world... Are they brainwashed yes is their motivation good also yes... And that's something I can think of on a large.. individuals are even more complex than that in their reasoning.
The fact Sam didn’t want the kids going to CPS because of how badly they’d be treated is mind blowing.
Yeah he didn’t want them reporting to CPS, so he made them like a devil to be avoided. They (and cops) were a threat to his pedo cult to be avoided
I understand what you’re saying but CPS is a terrible organization. Children they’ve taken into custody to “help” have gone missing. Trafficking is big business these days. Gives the do dirties more money than running drugs or guns. No one should trust CPS and they should be put out of business.
Nah, that's bull. He was just scared of being outted.
Ngl he isn’t wrong… cps is terrible for children a huge failure
His efforts to keep that from happening were really bad, but he's not entirely wrong for thinking that's what would happen. Obviously not an excuse, but even if child services had gotten involved ever... there's only a 50/50 chance that a satisfactory outcome would have taken place.
this is the toughest video I have ever seen, for just so many reasons. I appreciate your work with all these videos. it's wild to know the kind of people that exist.
The little girl STILL asks for her MONSTER DAD! Bless her heart, I hope all kids are thriving as much as they possibly can🙏
"ill take him up in a helicopter and dangle him till he tells us where they are" absolute gigachad cop
Sounds overly aggressive.
And dumb.
That would allow the criminal to get off free of charges, because you can't do things like that in an investigation...
It's actually happened, there have been pedophiles who have gotten off just because the police rough them up....
💩, I'll help and hold one leg if it works 🤗 damn these fools 💯
Sometimes it's refreshing to hear what they are really thinking....
I'm sorry I didn't hear anything
@@asafoster7954 you must be fun at parties
I'm a grown man, I spent 5 years active duty as an infantryman in the US ARMY, when I heard,
"Sam's gone." In that poor babies voice and my heart lurched nearly bringing tears to my eyes. Those poor babies, the thought of my son enduring something so awful makes me run red and it's incomprehensible to me. How can you do something like that, they've never done anything wrong.
The strength of these officers to not fucking bludgeon that bastard to the point his eyeballs fall from the socket is nothing short of Saint like.
100% agree!
Amen to everything you said, Sir & thank you for your service ❤
Well said! Thats how a real father is supposed to be and not like the scum in this video.
Also, thank you for your service!
Agreed
100% agree. Makes my fucking blood boil.
Looking forward to a follow up on this where its revealed the dads were brutally murdered in prison
Lots of people asking why the punishments are so lenient as though the US government isn't full of them
He’s worried about cps but has them in sub freezing temperatures, starving and dehydrated in abandoned containers?!?! What a very sick and deranged individual, all of them!
They were far too gentle to that POS. THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE IT CLEAR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO HIM IN GAOL.
The two men in this story are snakes plain and simple, slithering in every direction to escape.
@@margyeoman3564that’s an insult to snakes
Pedos don’t care and that’s all they are, the lot of them😢
He was acting dumb he knew it was wrong.
That cop had to check his tone when he was getting frustrated with those girls. Like they're a step up from being a toddler.
When they walked up on that first little girl my heart dropped to the floor. Look at where they are. They are in the middle of absolute nowhere. It gets bone chilling cold out there at night and blistering hot during the day. Praise God they were found. Also, when it comes to something as serious as missing children, you should not have the right to remain silent on that. You can keep your mouth shut on all other questions, but no matter what you must tell them where the kids are immediately.
Praise god?! are you serious? The Bible was the reason John was able to convince people he was a prophet sent from god to do the very things he did. Do you not see how religious thinking is what leads to cults? These people already have a presupposition that god is real. This allowed John to convince them that he was sent from god. Him and Sam both took literal passages from the Bible to back-up and justify their actions.
Now the religious cop-out is to claim that it was really the deception of satan. Go actually read the bible. not what some bs bible study group tells you it says.
"Can they just kill him?" Are chilling words from such a small and innocent soul.
I’m 35 wondering the same thing.
genuinely heart shattering. i hope those poor babies go on to have the best lives possible and get all of the help they need.
Just shows how they inherently know it was wrong despite Johns efforts to keep them isolated from society such that they would think it was normal.
But it was the absolute truth
"I no longer want to be part of this society, I'm going to live off my parent's social security" is a wildly self-unaware statement
And collect food stamps🙄
Sounds like a Texan secessionist.
The 'I'm self-sufficient' argument haha @cosmic_american
@@philomath7 Lol yes exactly... real rugged Americans!
Listen, when you're in a relationship and your partner says something like that....
Talk about red flags
major respect to the interrogator to be able to act so nonchalant about the horrifying statements as they come out. I could not hold any expression other horror and disgust as the things he says become more and more disturbing
Much respect for all law enforcement involved in this case. High respect for the investigator’s patience and tactics to get the interview to continue for further answers
the gall to say "i've heard horror stories about CPS" to a cop as the orchestrator of a nationwide amber alert is insane
he had heard stories of the trouble the parents get in when CPS is called. He didn't show a single strand of care for their kids at any point
@@senorcreepypasta3126 There is some validity to his statement. It's just a shitty excuse to use given his history and the circumstances. CPS is horribly flawed but rats like him dont get to use that excuse.
He needs to have to write down the definition of "horror" and what he thinks what HE DID WAS CALLED!!!
He was very specific in saying "I want them to go directly to their mother". This was likely a strategy to then be able to say to the cops that the mother coached them into saying things, because the mother hated them.
Seriously wtf hes incredibly delusional. Sick.
You know what? You guys should only be able to find a story like this maybe once every 10 years. The fact that you finds stories like this almost weekly, makes me want to just burn the planet.
I'm still waiting for the asteroid.
@@thegreencat9947I’m praying for it.
Yep same
Humans are despicable
Utah...
My jaw is literally dropped listening to the grandparents. The little girls were betrothed to John and Sam and they didn’t suspect anything was going on because John gave them “his word” that they wouldn’t be doing anything with the girls until they were of consenting age (even though the girls SLEPT IN THE SAME ROOM with John and Sam), and the girls didn’t “say anything was wrong”, and “looked happy”. And still no RED FLAGS when Sam threatened that he would kill anyone who left the compound?? Like, SERIOUSLY?? What the actual F*ck. Wow. Just WOW. 🤦🏽♀️ The power of crazy religious cults makes you lose SERIOUS brain cells, critical thinking or common sense.
This case is a great example why religious thinking causing harm. So many people ask "Why does it matter what i believe, if its not hurting anyone"
This is exactly why. Religious thinking is a plague on humanity.
Hearing the little girl talk after she emerges from a discarded barrel felt like a gut punch. The innocence among the horror took my breath away. Thankfully all these children have been rescued, and I hope they fully recover from this.
If I had heard that, theres no fucking way anyone I was in charge of escorting made it back to the station with a heart beat.
The little one saying I'm hungry, but I'm not starving....hurt me to the soul. Poor little ones. (Mom of four, and a fairly young grandma...No one who says they're hungry goes that way for long).
Ditto
@@jordanbauerly8843why? Don’t you want them to suffer for a long time?
They will never fully recover. Time will lessen the impact but the horror will still be in their memories, ready to reappear when they are under stress.
As a father to a baby girl this was really sickening and rage inducing to watch and hear. I literally got so mad that my hand curled up into a fist when Sam said he would check the hymen on these little girls including his own!!! These “adults” don’t deserve to even see the light of day. Hope they get what they deserve in prison and I wish the best for those girls.
If you were the father to a baby boy.. would your rage be the same?
@@sushleswas this a productive comment??
@@sushleswth kind of question is that? Why would you even say that to begin with.
@@sushles as someone who has both ya.....
same here, it makes my blood boil!
No way any parents i know would fall for this BS. "Dad give me all your money and max credit cards, im a prophet" they are very much to blame as well.
My father made us go through the same fear mongering mentioned at the beginning of the video. He never did the illegal acts, or the kid touching, thank god, but there were many a christmas with MREs as our only gifts and my brother was entirely homeschooled by him. Lots of verbal abuse and isolationism. Telling us not to bother with school or leaving home because the world is ending next week. Disallowing me from visiting with friends because the world was going to end while I was gone. Threatening to kill me and my whole family if they were forced to be vaccinated by the government. Its such a dangerous type of person. I pray these girls find a way to cope with their upbringing. I didnt experience a quarter of what they went through, and I still have trouble dealing with the abuse and mind games. I cant even imagine.
Sending you strength 💪
"I don't want to be part of society.... I'm going to live off my parents' social security" 🤦🤦🤦 and these types never see the irony.
And state provided food stamps!
@@snewpe19in technology that keeps them in touch with everything😂😂
That part made me roll my eyes so hard. I just can't-
And the parents fell for it too 😵💫 I swear if my son started telling me he's a prophet I'd call to get him into a psych hold!
Yeah "free money" certainly helped these monsters make excuses for wavering on their own heinous and idiotic set of beliefs -Of course that's how it usually works for people of exceptionally poor conviction.
How this guy managed to convince all these people to do his bidding is insane. If I told my parents I'd had revelations and they needed to support me, they would laugh me out of the house and have me committed.
It always amazes me how moronic people can be.. They are retirement age and could have had so many more options than going along with what these vile "men" are saying. Instead they let their little grandchildren be exposed to these creeps. They should all be in prison. The men won't be raising their children anymore. Thank GOD
Fr that's sickening!!!
Because his parents are awful people too
can't be the brightest light in the room if someone had told you they had custody of their own children, but lets hide them away. sadly shows how deeply brainwashing and blind adherence can go.
i'll get a slap
Those grandparents should never see those creatures again, the damage they have done will never be healed.
Those Grandparents got off TOO EASY!!!
I wish Micha and her children the best recovery and positive outcome for the extreme torture and abuse they had to all endure.
As for Pedo Sam's daughters??? Whatever happened to them?? I pray they are being well cared for and looked after safely now.
Such an AWFUL Tradegy!!!
Watching from the UK.
The way the cops comforted and distracted the girls after finding them is so touching. They did an excellent job and deserve so much praise.
Yes but everyone is warmly dressed and the girls have short sleeves and I'm here screaming at them to undress and just give them their coats. Instead they open the door to let the cold air in and ask about water multiple times after being let known the kids are first and foremost cold.
@@braria9855 to be fair to them, they were trying to coax the children out so they could be put in the cop cars where there is heating. I see your point, but the cops were doing their damnedest to comfort the girls and get them to all the things they needed to be safe.
That’s regular protocol😂😂
@@Isaiah024 I understand that, but you can tell when people are 'just doing their job' as opposed to actually caring about people they come into contact with.
The way the cops did their job
Those grandparents are absolutely ridiculous. How can you genuinely believe that your son would wait till those girls were of consenting age when the mother of his children was a minor when they met? Outrageous
It's not only about them waiting until those little girls were 18 it should have been the fact that her son and his "friend" had llned up their future brides at such young ages and were going to cut them off from everything and everyone so they would be completely dependent and under the control of these men and simply not know of any other way. And the grandparents were ok with that.
The Grandparents know (cult leader & evil apprentice) own the blame, not sheep!
Well of course! They are the proud parents of a prophet and religious leader! Why would they do anything to stop that!! I'm sure they saw themselves as Mary and Joseph or some other bullcrap. They're absolutely equally culpable.
@@BettinasisrgAbsolutely 💯%!!!
Well, there's a big difference between six and sixteen, obviously. I think the age of consent in Utah might actually be sixteen.
Imagine 200 years in the future, this binder is found and these men are seen as actual saints and men of God
This is more disturbing then the murder episodes
The response of that little girl, "can they just kill him?", makes me believe she'll be ok. She's already processed that what he did was wrong and not how life or love is supposed to be.
I never heard that, what part?
True shit
The very last minute of the video
stone cold gangster 4 year old
I wanted that as an abused kid...and it caused ..me alot of pain that I could feel that way ...
The fact that the girls still asked for their dad after being found just hurts my heart they trusted him and he hurt them back.
These kids were kept very isolated, and also had no-one being kind to them to show them any other life.
i was a single child in a single mom household. she had severe mental illness and beat me daily. i still would cry for her and want her as a child. stock hold syndrome at its finest. i’d often get scrutinized as a child for wanting her, and it made the abuse seem invisible
Trusted is not really the right word. It's indoctrination. There step of mental processing necessary to decide whether you trust someone or not, does not exist.
Totally 😢
Stockholm syndrome trauma bond
"I care about the wellbeing of the girls" is Sams justification for not telling the officers where to rescue them from lolololol
The Cop that was explaining and talking to the last two girls was heartfelt. Plus telling one of the that is beautiful name instead of calling her by her name