When I was 13, I accidentally broke my neighbors ceramic squirrel garden decoration. I couldn’t sleep for days and had my mom call them so I could apologize through tears. It is unreal how little some people feel.
That shows what a sweet young fella you were and likely still are. It’s truly baffling to me also how little care some people have for other human beings. They killed a poor little old woman. How horribly sad and how pathetically cruel.
@@izJordyGaming incredible response. It’s one thing to think it, another to see straight past the fact that he’s talking about you 😬 and truly sad that you missed all that and actually thought your comment could read as anything except utterly embarrassing FOR YOU. “There are none so blind as those that will not see”.. I’m hoping you’re just young and still stupid.. but if you aren’t young, it’s really too bad for the rest of us.
i know the operator was doing her job, but that is SO irritating when you are in the middle of an emergency and they cop an attitude with you. people are scared and confused and don't need that!
That aggravated me too. She literally sounded like that call was an inconvenience for her... like that womans mother just died! of course she doesn't want to go look at her moms corpse???
“I need to know if she’s breathing!!” Like what are you not gonna send anyone if she is? So frickin rude. Elderly woman, blood everywhere, she’s on the ground.. with a blanket over her head.. just reassure her daughter someone is coming! Jeez really upset me so much
That dispatcher pissed me off so bad. How dare she get an attitude with someone who just found they're family member dead. She needs to find a new profession.
@@Peyote1312 you NEED to know this before dispatching any agency to the scene! EMS is an obvious yes, foul play or crime requires police on the scene, otherwise they would meet the victims at the hospital.
Murdering your great grandma, horrifically and painfully, for a pizza and some weed is the most hideous motive and action I've seen in a very long time. She had helped him out too, on several occasions and seemed like a very compassionate and loving old lady. His mother and grandmother must be heartbroken.
Right? I could never imagine doing that to anyone let alone a grandparent for anything but money and weed? Are you kidding🤦🏻♀️ I hope they suffer wherever they go.
He had issues when he came out the womb.... let's bring back death penalty. Clear up our prison systems... spend money on important things like eSports
When I was 13, I felt so bad for forgetting to tell my grandmother that I loved her when I left her house pre-occupied by getting home to play StarFox. The thought these kids could murder and rob his grandmother just completely baffles me…
“She asked us if we were cold”. The last thing this total gift of a soul did with her time on earth was show compassion in the face of unrelenting, pure evil. It’s really hard to think about that without getting a little teary eyed. Fuck man, rest in peace Grandma.
I bet this poor lady held him at his birth and thought he was so beautiful and that she was so lucky to be a great grandmother, all the while never knowing that that little bundle of joy would become her murderer. Life is a crazy crazy ride man.
definitely wonder how much she was helping her family out. kid was being left alone regularly for hours at a time. he wasnt being given money, he only had one pair of shoes. where tf were the adults in this situation.
he didn't seem upset enough about going to prison for murder. this tells me something is dead inside of him - a lack of hope for the future. Makes me think his own parents and family failed him. Not an excuse for murder, but just saying that he is a product of his upbringing.
I mean he did get the pizza. My mom wouldn't give me money so I can eat pizza with my friend. She would tell me there's food in the kitchen, when there wasnt.
@@Mr.HotRod my mom asks my grandma for weed money and crack moeny and just gets it. thousands of dollars of it. someone gonna lock her up? No. Do the cops get called when she screams at top of her lungs at me, and i get potentially arrested for her insane actions; yes. all the yes. all the no. I hope someone arrests my mom, but she got away with a lot more than that. I hope one day I can meet a mentor who will help me the way I never was helped so I can become employed and leave my situation. sadly, my boyfriend has abandoned me, the same way my mother did when I was 9. I hope the world just burns when I realize how unfair it is. at the same time I'm contempt to know that a smile on my face brings a smile to all other genuine human beings which few exist. If you read this and scoffed, congratulations, that's what's left of your great humanity. I want to see more humanity before I leave this world.
@@springchickena1 seek help, please. You sound extremely traumatized. There is hope, you don't have to feel this way forever. I hope you are able to get the help you need, and deal with all the ways she has hurt and continues to hurt you. And deal with the abandonment you feel from her. Because your bf didn't abandon you, he had no obligation to you whatsoever. You are putting that on him from the trauma of your mom doing it. I really hope you find a good therapist who can help you sort through all this ❤
My heart breaks just thinking about the fact that Barbara saw her great grandson attack her… it must have been so scary to see someone she loved and cared for do such a horrible thing to her… and I can’t even begin to imagine the pain Barbara’s daughter and granddaughter felt when they found out it was Antonio who had done it. What a tragedy for this family.
I never was fortunate enough to know either of my grandmothers. My parents had me late in life & they lived so far away & neither had phones back then. So blessed was this little prick & she probably would’ve given him what he wanted if he had just asked!😢
And a great grandmother at that. I'm grateful that I knew my great grandpa until he died when I was 16, and I still have both grandparents on my mom and dad's side. A lot of people I know don't have any alive. It sucks knowing he hurt his great grandma
At 15 I was into gangs, stabbed a rival who was 28 and just got out of San Quentin. He lived thank God but I was on a bad path. Ended up in San Quentin myself. All in all I served 13 yrs in installments, you know 4yrs here, 5 years there but by 32 I was done and turned my life around. Now I work as a youth mentor and peer support specialist using my lived experience to effect a positive change within the hearts and minds of all who I come into contact with. It kills me to see these kids make choices that there ain’t no coming back from. Kids think like kids and have no idea that one day they’ll grow up and not be the same person. We all grow, mature and change. Unfortunately for some it’s too late, the damage they caused is irreversible. I was them, thank God I was blessed with a chance yo turn it around. I’m married, have kids and speak at schools and institutions. I been home 20 yrs married 18 yrs and working in children’s mental health for 15yrs !
@@LAoMARAo most gangs recruit children, it's how they get them to be integrated with the mindset. It's much easier to mold a 12 to 14-year-old mind than a 20-year-old mind. :(
I stole a package of m&m’s out of my grandmothers refrigerator when I was a kid. I felt so guilty. I’m 53 and I still remember it like it was yesterday. I could never fathom why people want to hurt the elderly. Rest in Peace to his Great Grandma. ♥️🌻
she asked them if they're cold... absolutely broke my heart, just thinking of how many times I've been asked by my grandmother if I'm cold, hungry or anything like that... most likely a very pure, honest and caring person killed brutally by a junkie kid, terrible.
2:09 One of the number one things that boils my blood is when 911 operators make their frustration known. This woman just walked into an absolutely horrific scene of her mom and the neighbor is obviously and understandably traumatized as well and the dispatcher cops an attitude??? I’ve listened to so many of these calls and I praise all the dispatchers who keep their calm and treat the callers with compassion and understanding 💗
To be fair they are trained to be that way. Their job is not to comfort you, but to get relevant information as quickly as possible and dispatch it to the right people, cutting through all the panic and confusion, as every second may count.
@@armoredp you're right but the fact she was being so rude isn't okay. the woman was clearly in distress to see her mother that way, and although the dispatcher isnt a grief counselor im sure she couldve handled the way she responded to the neighbor way better. remember that youre speaking to a human being who found her mother bloody and beaten on the floor with a towel over her head.
@@armoredpyeah but when someone has clearly seen something traumatic, it isn't in their training to direct that person to go relive the trauma, it's their job to keep the person calm and collect relevant information,, she had been told twice that she doesn't want to look How tf are they supposed to go check if she's breathing without looking after what they described "Lots of blood and blanket over the head" like wtf Is she supposed to tell them to start doing cpr too on a woman who's head is half missing or what? 🤦♂️
@@npcimknot958 Exactly... Ffs... Her mother is bloodied under a blanket, that would be traumatizing for her to go check if she's breathing even if she doesn't lift the blanket. It's not magically fine just because your mother's dead bloodied beaten lifeless cold unbreathing body is underneath a blanket 🤦♂️ prime example of a 911 operator being too desensitized. A paramedic can check on a bloodied victim's breathing. The victims daughter, 99% of the time, cannot. It's one thing to just ask... I don't have an issue with that. But the operator repeatedly pressing her really bugged me.
I can only assume she took the 50/50 gamble that Nathan would be a good influence upon Tino long term, hence going above and beyond to help/ support him.
I think it’s because both sound like they have dysfunctional families mom could be an alcoholic or drug addicted and not present in there life’s it’s really common
Thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos, educating all of us viewers while also showing the process of getting justice for the victims. I appreciate the subtitles as well because channels similar to yours rarely have them.
@@liamdowling14 sometimes, when people do good work, some people are willing to show their appreciation towards it, or even pay. You should check into that, one might even make a living out of it.
@@liamdowling14 you know their videos aren't monetized right? That means the only money they'd be receiving is from their patreon (if they even have one)
@@liamdowling14 Because he's a generous person and clearly believes in supporting content creators who put time and effort into making videos. Plus, it's not that much money.
I know! I can’t imagine how after doing something so diabolical, they got the guts to enjoy pizza and other things. However, I do wonder if they did feel any guilt at all but tried to suppress it.
The bit in this is so heartbreaking where the Grandma is asking them if they are cold in the garage just before they killed her. I bet she was just about to feed and warm the two boys and then the unimaginable happened. I read a comment below how Barbara would have surely held Antonio as a baby and thought he was simply beautiful and no doubt wondered what many magnificent things life would have in store for him. So sad in many ways.
What is truly unbelievable, astonishing and frightening is how the normie NPC zombies are so arrogant and ignorant about the realities of this world and they STILL keep forcing others into this death trap existence where people die every 30 seconds REGARDLESS OF AGE AND METHOD and horrible crimes are committed ALL THE TIME BY THE VERY PEOPLE THEY FORCED INTO EXISTENCE, INTO A DEATH SENTENCE via breeding like absolute demonic unconscious animals. ...
She was probably at her wits end dealing with his increasingly criminal behavior, worrying that he was gonna end up in prison as an adult. When she realized he took part in a murder, I imagine she finally gave up.
The fact that Tino can continually call his great grandmother “it” as he describes trying to move her body, tells me everything. The other boy clearly had remorse, yet it wasn’t his family member. I believe Nate’s version. Tino is someone who lacks any emotion and empathy and hopefully he never gets out of jail. Poor Barbara and the rest of her family.
You would. Even if you were acting extremely nervous, homicide investigators will easily be able to differentiate between certain behaviors. DNA evidence and having an alibi would seal the deal for your innocence.
You should never ever say a word other than you need a lawyer. There's nothing anyone can say to these detectives that is going to help themselves. Usually you're there because they believe you're guilty.
@Lasse3 Thank you for saying this. The comments are filled with sensitive pussies that refused to see the other side of the coin because the operator was "tOo iNsEnSiTiVe". It's just irritating to see so many people be so weak online.
Jesus. I remember when I was 13 there were a few instances of me lying to my parents about minor things, or cheating on a test or something of that nature and the guilt ate me alive. I cannot comprehend how two 13 year olds could be so cold and callous and evil to commit an act like this. It’s truly terrifying.
when i was 13 i didn't even think about stuff like cheating cause i didn't have the braincells to think about that and if i would have try cheating at some point, i would be too scared to get caught
Thank you for putting subtitles on your videos. UA-cams subtitles suck. It makes a big difference in the quality of your video when I can actually read everything that's being said. In these interrogation videos it can be really hard to hear/understand everything being said. Your videos are amazing. One of the best of its kind 💯
I don't mean to relate to Mr.Beast, but I believe he subtitles his videos in as many languages as possible. I think he also does audio dubs but I'm not sure. It helps with his global audience
@@inlinechris it has to do with the comment I replied to. A diversity of subtitles languages provides viewing access to non English speakers. You're hostility has been noted 👍
Him getting hit by a car actually explains this whole thing. I've read about lots of instances where head trauma caused people's personalities to radically change. This kids empathy is obviously off-line. Everything about this is sad.
People don’t tend to realize how much TBI changes a person ENTIRELY. My mom is still here but she’s not the same. It’s like we lost her the day that happened.
Most of these murders are by partners, children, friends, and grandchildren. Don't have children, partners, or friends and you reduce your chance of being murdered to a relatively miniscule amount, especially if you also avoid high crime areas, and maintain situational awareness. If you don't do these basic things, they you are choosing to take a risk with your life.
I remember that little four year old toddler, in the U.K. James B. who got killed by the two 13 year old losers. People called them monsters and aptly so! They are now out of prison which is maddening!! They should have got life!
Toddlers are psychopaths but usually with teaching and peers most kids will right themselves by the time they are 5. after that.. it can be a lost cause. The worst bullies I knew as a kid many ended up in jail.
I was privileged enough to have my great grandmother in my life until I was 13. Her children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren were her pride and joy. She loved us and we loved her. I’m sure Barbara felt the same way about her family. To meet such an awful fate at the hands of your own great grandchild… absolutely disgusting.
You sure assumed a lot of things right there. I am going to assume your assumptions are wrong. In fact, I think a smart person wouldn't assume shit. Because we have no facts about hes childhood, hes actual relationships with hes family, you base all your assumption from one comment in a video, ''are you cold? come in?'' Please get some education. That being said. Murder is wrong. But being stupid is also wrong. So stop making stupid assumptions... I rest my case.
To even give a contrasting experience while still not resulting in violence: my great grandmother was a horrible woman. She was cruel, manipulative, and selfish. We argued a lot because I wouldn’t tolerate her saying awful things about other relatives. Never once did I give a thought to harming her. I did chores for her and held her arm as she walked when she was too frail to walk unsupported. She was a monster until the day she died, but violence never crossed my mind. It takes someone so cruel and cold to commit an atrocity like this.
@@Savvy. my great grandma was the most evil person I've ever encountered and I can't imagine letting anything bad happen to her even because of other people or a fluke accident let alone stomach doing something to her myself and definitely not as horrific as what these boys did
@@Savvy. Mine was violent, problematic, 'cost' my grandmother her home country and ultimately had dementia. My grandmother, who ultimately became very, very difficult, and who had put her in the home at 90+ (great grandma really hurt her when she kicked her in the belly. In fairness to GG, she thought grandma was her own abusive mother. She was sure that MY mother was my grandmother, and ADORED her). Grandma would come to ensure that she was fed, because they did not like doing that apparently. She passed when I was 7, almost 50 years ago. NO ONE (well not the relatives) thought about killing her. Also though, none o9f us were that form of mentally defective.
Narrator: it seems unlikely that someone would completely forget something that happened only a few days ago. Me: *forgetting things that happened today* 🥴
Me realizing that was a red flag to investigators scares the shit out of me because bro idek what day of the week it is half the time how tf am I supposed to remember times and dates too?
They're supposed to be. They are there to (a) dispatch help; (b) gather pertinent information for the help before it arrives so they can get straight to work; and (c) lower the pulse to keep everybody as calm as possible.
They must be mentally ill to some degree in order to behave that way while holding that responsibility in such an urgent situation. I'd expect more from a 9 year old.
@@padddy48they kind of need to know if the victim is breathing or alive. It's pretty important information. The more information they have the better prepared the ambulance can be
i learn so much about the legal system, interrogations, non-verbal cues, and what to look out for in "sketchy" situations when i watch your videos. thank you for all the work you do in providing this type of content!
I bet she would have given him money if he really needed it. That "She asked us if we were cold" line is after seeing that people broke into her home. Most people would be mad and scared. But she was concerned for them. HOW DOES SUCH A KIND SOUL EXIST! She sounds too good for this ugly world. Rest In Peace Gma 🙏
i honestly felt really bad and just sad for her after that line, ive watched a lot of these and that line is geniunely one of the most sickening and disturbing ive heard
A friend in my teenage years got so drunk he walked into a strangers house and slept on the couch. The old woman woke him up, made him breakfast and proceeded to have an hours long conversation about human behavior, consequences and lessons she’d learned over her almost 80 years of living. She didn’t call the police and he’s lucky she didnt, she chose to be kind and use the opportunity to educate him. It completely changed the road he was going down and all of us were impacted by it as well. I still to this day hope (most likely not alive anymore) that she knew what an impact that made on not one but several 18 years olds at the time. Now had he been a narcissistic mop head like this bum it wouldn’t have had an impact.
Wow I remember at 13 years old doing normal kid things like playing outside with friends or playing video games. What is wrong with kids these days? $155!?
Today’s generation is very shallow and self centered. … even at levels that don’t reach this type of extremes. More kids today are depressed , on psych meds , have some type of mental health issues like anxiety self deletion ideation, don’t see a purpose in life but self gratification, are rebellious against authority , and they don’t have a firm level of consequences … natural or imposed …for their actions before it gets to the point of danger for themselves or those around them. ( makes me think of the teens somewhat recently in the news who stole a car and crashed into another car ending the life of a 6 month old. They were released with minimal consequences)
Anyone who remembers middle school properly can believe that a teenager is capable of evil. Most of the cruelty I experienced growing up was at the hands of my peers, not adults.
Been there fr. When they found out I had asthma I just didn't know why at the time they would purposely trigger it. I honestly hated elementary to middle.
@Torrio Torres Some kids *are* inherently evil. The torture they can dish out on their peers is not normal and should not be normalized with some "kids will be kids" bs.
Kids act the same way their parents act behind closed doors. The difference is the kid doesn't realize it's not okay to do it in public. Kids attitude's are a direct translation of how the parents act at home. I don't blame kids for being evil their parents are evil and treat him like he's worthless. It's not a surprise this kid acts the way he did, parents weren't even there for him and treated his life (a human life) as if it doesn't even matter. So sad. Please don't bother telling me this kid had a mental illness. Lots of kids grow up with multiple personality disorder and don't go around breaking the law and killing family members. Love cures all this kid was set up for failure.
It takes a lot to genuinely scare me, but this is terrifying. I’ve never seen someone so young be so cold and so remorseless. I’m at a loss for words, honestly. This is insane.
And we have a generation of kids being raised like this. To "find their own path". Well, you know what a kid wants, who was raised without restraints or moral consequences? Pizza and weed money! And if Grandma is the means to get it, so be it.
Cain killed his brother Abel, this was the first murder. Sin is no respector or persons, The Bible tells us that mans heart is evil because of sin, we've all sinned against God , Easter is coming soon, this is our only hope. Jesus became our sin on the cross and rose again, -we all need him, or we die in our sin
@@kristophstjames4143 Only in America will people blame mental illness and neurological disorders on magical sky daddy. No wonder the country is a shit hole
I’m convinced that the prerequisite for being an operator is an uncanny ability to transform into a piece of shit when it’s time to actually do your job.
The prerequisite for being an operator is being actually willing to apply for the job, and then listen to horrible stuff all day mixed in with people calling over complete bull and verbally abusing you. In this case they have a person who might still be alive and moments from irrecoverable death and she wants someone to go and see if they are breathing and they are wasting time.
@@justforever96 I hope you can stay competent if you’re ever experiencing both a traumatizing event and the worst day of your life. The concept of a “fight or flight” response includes flight as an option for a reason. The human brain can’t always process what’s happening when crisis happens. Also, if you’re so easily jaded by people being mean to you in a job where it’s expected to happen that you start to disregard everyone calling for help, you aren’t fit for the job.
Emiru from wolverine in cheap way to your example. The company has had photoshop and unswirl years and we will get to see. He is not working on the planet.
@@phixphixation7261 I have to disagree with you, he’s a textbook psychopath..he has no remorse, and it’s pretty clear that he could care less about what he did to his own grandmother. He’s emotionless.
@@meghanm5000 Do you think people are born a psychopath? It is something you can become, if he were emotionless he would not be alive, everyone has them, but they can be buried deep enough for you not to recognize them. You see a very brief and superficial depiction here of a long and complicated story. He was the victim of a car accident with resulting brain damage, do not underestimate that. He probably felt he had nothing to live for anymore, that will certainly zap the life out of anyone. Don't be fooled by what little you see here.
when i was around 12, i was doing my grandmas makeup while staying at her house. i didnt have makeup brushes, so instead i was using regular paint brushes. when i was doing her eyeshadow i accidentally poked her in the eye with the brush. i felt bad for an entire week and was constantly apologizing. i cant fathom killing a person close to u and having absolutely no remorse.
Imagine having a literal heart of gold, watching your great-grandson and his friend break into your garage and being concerned for THEM rather than yourself, and having your life brutally end for $155 dollars. Absolutely heartbreaking. I hope she’s in a better place now
@@SolarisKane you're comparing fiction to reality. Something a human came up with vs a deity. We're not even gonna go on about that topic because athiest don't understand what the word Deity means and instead try to apply logic onto that deity as if that deity didn't create logic itself. Which is why me and you can't talk about this because you don't care to even look up the definition of deity or God. You'll rather think in a Gothic way and believe that when your life is over, everything you did in your life was for nothing because you cease to exist after it's over. So we'll rather stay on our end and think peacefully and you can stay on your end where y'all believe that your lives are bulbs of light.
@@SolarisKane also I don't know what this whole "to force people to join their religion" thing is about. Trying to make someone think in a peaceful way even if God isn't real is better than letting them think that they have to speed run life because they only get one shot. That's why y'all do crazy shit like this shown in the video now. Because y'all think that there are no consequences after death. Again, let us be peaceful while y'all stay miserable thinking about what you will and won't have time to do while you're alive. Even if an atheist isn't evil they still can easily turn evil and do some evil shit. Because at the end of the day their mindset is still, "Even if I get sentenced to death, even if I get sentenced to life in prison, even if I get killed in prison, or whatever else may happen to me, I'm going to die and cease to exist". It's obvious as hell that y'all think like that too. There's a reason that the none insane serial killers are athiest. Y'all think like that, y'all don't gaf. Either ways. How are you gonna tell someone that is at peace that their reason for that peace isn't real? Do you see how evil that sounds already? Y'all evil, simple answer. That's like telling a toddler that Santa Claus doesn't exist. 🤨😑 If you walked up to a random stranger and explained to him that God wasn't real and that he wouldn't get to see his deceased mother again in the afterlife. Let's say he chooses to believe everything you say. Do you know how deadly that man would be? How corrupted his spirit and way of thinking may become? That's what I mean when I say "y'all evil". Because y'all would rather break take the idea of "Eternal Paradise" from the minds of somebody. Like I said before, even if God isn't real and there is no afterlife. Let them continue to believe that. Like really think about it for at least once in your life. At least they're not doing anything to avoid getting into heaven. They're spreading love to their peers, they're being generally good people, and you'll rather take that from them. I'm sure you see what I mean now. You're 𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙇. In the Bible, what I just explained is literally the Devil's job. Lucifer Morningstar himself. Do you understand how evil you have to be to truly want to do that to someone? Imagine a kid who grew up not even knowing of God's existence. Now imagine a kid who has and wants nothing but to be with God. Who do you think is living a better life? My point stands. 𝗘𝘃𝗶𝗹
I keep thinking about my sweet grandmother making sure we were all fed. We were poor and couldn't afford the stuff we wanted as teenagers but she made sure that we were loved and taken cared of when we visited her.
Honestly the manager of that 911 operator should be held accountable for either hiring that person, or not putting her on a PIP. For her to speak to that woman like that is deplorable. She more than likely wasn't a good fit for the position. This is not the type of work where you overlook that kind of thing.
She sounds annoyed that they were asking her for an update. Also, "Just have the neighbour look" when she's been told there's blood all over, she's covered by a blanket and not moving. All sings that she's dead, and graphically to. Just give the neighbour trauma for no good reason
@@Arsenico971 Exactly! A couple years ago I had to call 911 and I told the loser weasel scumbag dispatcher to STFU! You have my address and hung up. Why people talk to these idiots os beyond me.
@@LAoMARAo she was dismissive, and put someone else in danger. As a 911 operator she had a duty of care that she failed to uphold. You are meant to assume the truth, unless given reason not to, even then you still send some one round.
The whole thing is absolutely horrifying, but when his friend talked about her "snoring" i just know that was her dying and her most likely gargling on her own blood. My dad passed away recently and there is something called "death rattle" which is what happens when someone dies only hers probably would have been amplified with the blood. I will never forget that sound. It still haunts me. I had leaned in to let my dad know that i will never forget him and while my son isnt old enough to remember him, i would be sure that he would know about him. He passed away a few minutes after that.
If it truly baffles you, you have lived (maybe too) secure life. Real world is like the jungle, but imagine it in 3 colors only. Everything is black, not dark, but black light. White for the eyes and teeth swooshing around. And blood red. Monsters are born every day.
@@blayasblay3941 i haven’t lived too secure of a life. it’s just i don’t think the same way as a killer, so it’s obviously gonna shock me. i have sympathy for the victims and it’s my way of expressing how bad i feel
@@gorillacookies3171 a monster ??? its a fucking kid😂, you are a slave to people worse then this kid, this kid is nothing compared to whats out there in plain sight, don’t be so stupid
@@David-ph2dl no. He has disassociated her life/ meaning from her deceased body. It’s probably one of the contributing factors into what made it easy for him to make that decision. Once she’s no longer able to have impact on his current world (move, run, exist, whatever) his brain checks it off as a task done. It’s no longer “grandma” and it’s just a body to him, sure it’s hers, but from his pov he already disassociated her from her body. I can’t say that’s exactly the case, however it’s more than likely so. If it had really bothered him, he wouldn’t have used “It”, he more than likely would have completely avoided the question or broke down in hysteria and plead. The “It”, in my opinion, established his mentality and his lack of empathy or feeling towards his actions/ the situation at all.
@@kennyc388 I remember learning how to drive from playing GTA 5 when I was 13. Oh wait, that never happened. But I definitely remember learning how to shoot and stab people. Wait.... That never happened either
God damn. When I was 13 I was trying to figure out how to snatch crawfish from the pond to sell... I made over 300 bucks in a few weeks once I did because this woman from the south saw me and became my best customer. I bought SO many red gumballs I got sick. I had a lot of fun and my grandmother bought some of the crawfish... What a contrast...
Lost my Grannymoo (unexpectedly) in September and I’m right there with you! I’d give just about anything to have one hug and conversation with her. You have to wonder if these kids (especially her great grandson) went through some kind of trauma to make them not quite right, or if dude was just born a psychopath because, wtaf?! Sorry you lost yr Grandma 🥺
I lost mine 2 years ago this week. my grandmother was the best person I knew, I can't imagine acting with such callousness like these boys. I'm sorry for your loss.
I lost my grandma in 2019, so 3 and a half years ago. When me and the family talk about her, I know it sounds a tad heartless, but we were glad that she died in 2019. As she was suffering from Dementia and just wouldn't have understood the rules about Covid. This would have damaged everyone including our Grandma. So when this Episode began, I immediately looked at my grandma's picture and felt a wave of both disgust and a level of Anger that went beyond the level of that particular word and more into a brief Berserk Fury. I feel untold amounts of sympathy for the women in question and all members of that family who weren't a part of what happened. What those two fools did was unfortunately typical of humans, as Animals don't kill for monetary reasons. Sorry this seems like a long winded talk, it's just both sad to talk about her and I wrote from my heart to cleanse my negative emotions about watching this video.
Exactly what I was thinking. We lost our grandma to corona and every single grandchild was torn apart by it including my little brothers I could never imagine them hurting her in any way. This lady deserved so much better
What is truly unbelievable, astonishing and frightening is how the normie NPC zombies are so arrogant and ignorant about the realities of this world and they STILL keep forcing others into this death trap existence where people die every 30 seconds REGARDLESS OF AGE AND METHOD and horrible crimes are committed ALL THE TIME BY THE VERY PEOPLE THEY FORCED INTO EXISTENCE, INTO A DEATH SENTENCE via breeding like absolute demonic unconscious animals. ...
I was still reading books about fairies and vampires when I was in the 8th grade. The idea of someone of that age being capable of something so horrific is deeply unsettling. Like where did these kids grow up the island from Lord of the Flies?
@@gloriouslyaesthetic eh idk about that. Modern America has a slew of problems, along with most developed countries. However, psycho kids have killed worldwide for generations. Hell look at those British kids who were even younger that abducted and murdered a toddler. Or the 12 year old Japanese girl who razored her friend to death at school. There's a ton of killer kids throughout history.
It's crazy. Same goes with kids doing drugs at like 11. It blows my mind. I feel this kid might have had a chaotic upbringing, since he had a great grandma that was only 78. So she became one at 65. So this family was having kids in their teens every single generation. This can lead to a ton of issues with raising the kids and poverty since the parents are kids themselves without much life skills to raise kids. Add that up for generations and you end up with messed up kids who are 13 yet have a history with police and having a social worker. His mom was probably hardly a mother to him, and God only knows where the father is. This is the issue that many inner city poor black kids face and why it's so hard to fix it. Single moms having kids at like 16 for generations leads to very little accumulated wealth and parenting knowledge. Each generation ends up in a worse spot than the last, with a least stable environment each time until there's no structure in these kids lives, no lessons of right and wrong, no discipline or learning how to grow up. It's really sad and highlights how important protection and proper judgment is when you're young and first having sexual relations. So yeah considering he was in shelter care, had history with cops, and such a young great grandma leads me to believe he wasn't a "normal kid" when it comes to upbringing, which could have caused a ton of anger within him. Whatever caused it, kids a monster and belongs in prison for a very long time.
@@Leo23XR You're still very much a child at that age, at least mentally, if you said 16 I think people would be more understanding. Yes im very much aware of the "teen" conotation within the "age" but 13 seriously is still very much childish.
@@Leo23XR Here is a little something you can look up: "The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as, "A human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier.” This is ratified by 192 of 194 member countries."
He was so calm for his age, he really thought about every answer before he gave one… it’s chilling. This definitely wouldn’t have been his last time killing. Poor lady. She didn’t deserve that.
Trauma to the brain certainly can cause the personality shift he experienced, from my second-hand experience at least living with someone who it happened to. My step-father ended up having a motorcycle accident where he hit his head, and subsequently had a stroke following that accident. Ever since then, he was never the same. He slowly descended into madness with apathy and aggression. One day, he opened fire with a gun in his room. My mother came running over and said "You better not be shooting holes in my house!" and was about to open his door, but decided against it. She and the dog escaped the house and went to the neighbors. She called me and I arrived to see the house surrounded by police, he was still inside with the gun. After what seemed like forever with them trying to contact him, another shot rang out and we knew it was over. The police tried to contact him for another 30 minutes or so before storming in there. After this was all done, I helped clean up the room and rip out some carpet. They don't tell you about that part, the cops do nothing to clean up a scene... I noticed that behind the pictures on his wall, there was writing. I started removing the pictures and found all sorts of sickening mentally ill ramblings as well as threats to my mother. I checked his phone and saw he was talking to other people about killing her, and I knew if she opened that door that day, she would have been dead. He was never violent before, but we all saw the change happen before our very eyes. He refused help and just kept getting stoned all the time. I always viewed him as a scumbag, but he certainly wasn't like this before the accident. But after the accident he was always calm, even when he shouldn't be... Guess that's a sign.
Yep, one or both of them would have killed again if not caught going into their adulthood. Once you kill someone innocent for a selfish reason you will kill again.
The description of which poor Barbara was found in was absolutely stomach wretching. These KIDS would have grown into adults, as even worse sociopaths they already are, at just 13. I'm glad they're off the streets. My heart goes out to Barbara's family and to Barbara especially.
@@6kjr They can be raised properly and still end up criminals. There’s plenty of cases of children who had no family issues, but the child simply hangs out with the wrong friend group. Which is something out of the parents control. If the parents start controlling every little thing their child does and becomes overbearing. That is a case waiting to happen as well. Things simply are out of our control. Sometimes raising them right doesn’t do it, because there isn’t a perfect way to do it.
My great grandma made it until I was 22, she died last year just before Christmas. Everyone was devastated, there wasn’t a single person in my family who didn’t describe her as an absolute gem- “A rose of a woman” as my dad called her. She was so kind to me, always making sure to offer me food, a jacket, money- she bought my favorite books anytime she found them at yard sales. I cannot even begin to fathom ever attacking her for some mere pocket change, these boys are absolute monsters, it takes a special kind of evil to do what they did so mercilessly- not a breath of remorse in her great grandson.
I bet those grown men are not going to be empathetic in prison ! In fact,because of what Tino and Nate done,may actually make them walking targets among the inmates !
It’s good to hear the appreciation you had for your grandmother ❤️❤️❤️👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾, a lot of younger generation don’t appreciate/understand the value of older family member bring to the support/ foundation of the Family❤❤, Thank you for sharing the love you had for Grandmother..❤❤❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🕊🕊🕊🕊
This kid is absolutely evil. Not only did he kill his grandma, talk his friend into helping him do so, but also ratted his friend out where the rest fot he weed was in his friends room. I hope these little monsters never ever get out.
That is horrifying to think that was her last moment. She was thinking this is my great grandson & he's killing me???? That is literally heartbreaking. That kid is pure evil af.
Literally just looked at my one year old daughter and thought about her one day having children of her own, and those children having children, and then one of those children bludgeoning me to death for $150. Unfathomable.
My brother has a 22 year old son. He lives in his mother's basement and has never held a job. At some point moms money will run out. I know he has no intention of ever getting a job so...im not so happy that he knows where i live.
My great grandma will be 102 this August. She's outlived her entire family and lived through the great depression, World War 2, and the Civil Rights Movement. If anyone in our family had done something to hurt her, they would be DISOWNED. I don't remember everything from 8th grade, but I will always remember that I love my Mema. I hope they rot.
If they talk too fast - guilty. If they talk too slow - guilty. If their leg moves at all - guilty. If they give short OR long answers - guilty. Love these videos but still it seems like no matter what you do you’re viewed as guilty
They literally say it’s not really suspicious by itself but multiple indicators can mean something… psychology expert or not you can tell he’s nervous like its not that hard to understand
And then getting bitched out by that fucking Karen at the 911 dispatch office. It's nice to know that thot probably got fired the following week pulling that shit on a caller in distress.
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When i was 13 my grandma died of lung cancer. She raised me and so many others and was a gem of a person. Grandmas normally have the purest type of love for their grandkids, i cant imagine taking that love for granted and ending such a sweet womans life for such selfish reasons
I can't believe the EWU crew has gotten so big I remember when it was just you then you and your daughter exploring the western deserts... Old cave, abandoned places, supernatural even. That was back when less than 1000 now your over 3.0 M subscribers it's crazy... Great job guys you deserve it you've come so far.
@@sankara5ever He killed his own great grandmother just for a few dollars and didn't care. This is a mind that can NOT be fixed. If this brat held up a store or something, yes I'd say he could be rehabilitated but he bashed in an old woman's head and left her in the garage with a bag on her head and went to eat pizza. If this had been your mother or grandmother, would you say the same thing? People like you are why it's not safe to go anywhere anymore.
His grandmother was a beautiful woman. You can tell from her photo that she was a kind woman. Can you imagine the horror and shock she felt when this boy did this?
@@bluecream78 Agreed. She could have been a complete azzhole for all any of us know. People are weird with their constant need to make 💩 up and believe themselves.
@@bluecream78if that was the feeling she got when she looked at her pic who are you to tell her that she is wrong? Get a life and stop trying to be the comment police!!!
This is so sad to think her own great grandson and his friend could have total disregard for human life at the age 13. Truly heartbreaking I'm glad they got caught and hope that they realise what they did is disgusting and should NEVER have happened.
I had a friend who was strangled to death my her own 17 year old daughter & boyfriend. Then they buried her in a shallow grave after having her dead under the bed a few days while taking care of the younger 8yr old sister. Then they still moved the body to a different location while lying to everyone concerned & police sifting money & sympathy. They got life which is 25yr atleast...
@@jennyvigar752 maybe it's due to their age 🤷♀️so much more to the story obviously..it's so surreal when things like this happen to someone you know or are close too.
I adored my grandma. Grandma and grandpa were my anchors during my unstable childhood. I stayed with them every summer. Grandma was the one who taught me to read and cherish books, she taught me how to cook, to can, and all the other things I would need in life. Her death destroyed me for many years. This case saddens me greatly.
I went to school with these kids. They were a year or two younger than me. This isn’t even the only teenage killer that our town had, couple years later there was Dorian Torres. Crazy stuff
god dayummmm i would be fearing for my lifeeeee put me in private school or homeschool me or someth'n, public school there just sounds like a death wish
Social cues I've learned from these videos: "Scratching is an indicator of stress and probable lying." "Stretching is an indicator of stress and probable lying." "Eye contact is an indicator of lying." "Avoiding eye contact is an indicator of lying." "Smiling is an indicator of being nervous and uncomfortable, therefore probable lying." "Not smiling is an indicator of being uncomfortable, and therefore lying." "Talking is an indicator of lying."
And this is just one more reason NEVER to talk to cops. They are NOT your friends and the only thing they’re interested in is forcing a confession from you.
@Melanie Clark ....just a little weird hearing you say that on an old lady murder video but go off Idk about you but those cops are my friends cause they keep psychos like that away from me
@@melanieclark2668 they only try to get a confession from you if they believe it was you, otherwise they normally don’t, so if you’re innocent you can talk to them, having an attorney there is probably a good idea either way though
55 yo here, this channel has absolutely shocked me. The things that go on! When I was 12 I stole a battery from the newsagents and the guilt and fear nearly killed me.
At 12 i found a Playboy magazine in a trash can and the guilt of having seen that messed me up for bit... The cases Ive seen here blow my mind, and also opens it to all the craziness that goes on. unfathomable
Thank you so much for including the information about brain development, maturity, and the laws regarding the rights of minors during interrogations. Those things elevated this video to a new level! I also want to give you guys major credit for using the right diagnostic terms for someone whose brain is still developing, as personality disorders are only meant to be diagnosed in adults. These things trigger my passion, and it makes me so happy when such information is included. I'm really proud of you guys ❤
It’s surreal to me to listen to stories like this. I’m the same age as these kids and in 2012-13 being 13/14 years old I remember riding my bike, fishing with friends, setting off fireworks and running around the neighborhood. Doing something like this would never have passed through my mind, terrifying.
Also, Water ballons, tag, man hunt with nerf guns (aka advanced hide n seek), jumprope…. But never ever malicious thoughts, heck. if someone kept ding dong ditching too much, other kids would tattle on them 😅
Fortunately or unfortunately whichever way you look at it I was in a orphanage and like you wouldn't dream of hitting a adult even after get rip off by a old lady promising large sum to do her garden and giving me half,Apparently her daughter paid her a visit and decided it was too much money,She brought this up as i was leaving and i said why don't you do the garden and save your mum the money,I informed the house mother what i said better from me, She said it was rude but she deserved it advertising for a young man(13) and paying half the agreed amount,She didn't stop for weeks demanding i do her garden for half price involving the social workers who agreed with her until the house mother showed the advertisement and her promise,She dropped it after that,I held no malice but I'm not working for peanuts find someone else
The only "dangerous" things I did in my childhood was probably steal from stores. I had a little bit of klepto but I got passed that part of my life and left it behind. Your "friends" really do influence you to do wrong.
I was 12 or 13 and I was on a trampoline with my friend and I accidentally landed on his arm and it broke. That was almost 16 years ago, still haunts me to this day. I still feel terrible about it. From how young they where and still have no remorse from what they did. I can never imagine
@@MiGujack3 America is a sad country where you go into debt for something trivial like a broken arm. And the funniest thing is you got the most expensive health care in the world.
@@MiGujack3uhm that depends on the country. In my country by default every one should have a health insurance. There are some expections, but most have one. You wont be in dept for something like that. Not even when you have cancer since that is covered by the health insurance. Sometimes you still have to pay a bit but its not really that much and most people can afford it
@@WTfire10 Yeah. I frequently tell friends jokingly that if I broke a limb I'd just try to do an amateur brace because it's better than paying $2k or some stupid price and not eating for the next half a year.
The dispatch lady could have showed any amount of sympathy. This woman found her mother on the garage floor covered in blood an called the police for the dispatch lady to get snippy. Why do you need to know if she’s breathing. Send an ambulance
I agree she was snippy and it was unnecessary but dispatch needs to know if the person is breathing or not so they can then instruct the caller on the next life saving measures to take (like CPR or a tourniquet to stop bleeding) But I agree the dispatch woman was rude and inconsiderate in this case.
The fact that she keeps talking on the phone does not mean she hasnt activated the ambulance call. She only has to make couple of clicks in the computer to send a request and it's another operator who actually calls the ambulance while she stays on the line with the caller acquiring more information. Well , normally that's how it is done. She is typing and clicking few buttons; another operator is in charge of passing the request on to the parademics. If I should point out a mistake here, it'd be she not informing that help was already on the way; she could have clarified that.
When I was 13yo I made flyers with friends for lawnmowing my neighborhood. We made more money than they did our first weekend and it was fun. It was the most grown-up I'd ever felt at the time.
There was something deeply horrifying to me about how Nate described the grandmother as "starting to snore" because deep down, I recognize that sound. It's hard to forget how it sounds.. Agonal breathing - a reflex purely controlled by the brain stem as the body's last ditch effort to get oxygen to the brain. Usually when you hear that, the person is as good as dead. She was dead far before anyone could have had any chance of helping her. I hope they burn in hell.
Thanks for explaining that a bit farther. For a minute, I thought that kid may have been mistaken her sounds. I thought he may have heard gurgling (possibly from choking on blood?) But what you say makes sense.
Such horrible little demons 😈 Omg I can't begin to imagine how scared she was, just in terror! I And thank you 😊 for explaining the snoring term, altho itade me even more disgusted with them, I hope they get everything coming to them in SPADES 💯😥❤️🕊🕊
@@NikomaGrob are you not murdering people because you don't feel like it, or because you actually know right from wrong? Ironically enough, I'm a 31 year old with autism too. Just curious about your answer.
@@AromaticAromantic I suppose both of those would be applicable. I don't feel the need to and even if I did I probably would refrain from it because I know the negative consequences that will most likely arise from it. Also it seems messy and I have no incentive to commit crime, I'm well off and like to keep to myself most of the time, as you can probably understand yourself. But then again I do believe I would be quite capable of it if I were to be put in a cage with another person without any food for a couple of days, as most would I imagine.
Nate's mother is guilty of bad parenting. She knew antonio left shelter care. Antonio is staying at her house for 4 days And she drives them over to Grandma''s house. She never asked questions about dropping them off his great grand mothers house.
@@serene889 she doenst knew it was his ggm home and she doesnt left then before the house it was 2 miles away fro mthe house where she dropped them of and they told theyll meet friends
@@serene889 No she isn't. She didn't know it was his grandma as she thought she was dropping them off to meet up with one of there friends. Even if it she did know it was his great grandma's house, dropping someone off at their family member house isn't suspicious. Secondly he ran form the shelter because he didn't like being there which is why he ran. We don't know why he didn't like being there nor do we know what he told her to even make her consider him staying at her place. He could have easily said something like "they're abusing me" (which is common in shelters) which would naturally make someone let a child stay at there place if they think they're being mistreated at home/shelter
Three minutes in and I’m already crying this hurts my heart so much hearing her daughter over the phone talking to the operator I could never imagine finding my mom like that I think my heart would just break sending love to this family in this devastating time
@@ritast.johnstiles8008 I hate it. I took care of my buddy for 12 yrs. He didn't pay me for 7 of them but I still took care of him with everything you can imagine. The final moments of my buddy were hard, he started that death rattle, we were thinking it would be quick after hearing it. It wasn't quick, it took 9 hours of hearing it. We watched the the movie "Princess Bride" and right when it finished it went silent. I was the one that had to declare him dead, it was a very hard time in my life. But it was a once in a lifetime moment, he gave me his house in the end. I still miss him, he was a professor at BYU of creative writing. I was thinking of telling this story on UA-cam with different parts with a lot of detail to it all. Don't know if people would be interested in it? I've worked in hospice for 15 yrs.... Regarding this story, it's sad they killed their grandma, obviously they are children, not fully developed in the mind. I hope they get the help and love they need.
@@mikefrost1312 I wonder if that's what happened. Maybe the tongue went back into her throat to restrict airways which made the snoring sound they heard. We will never know. Is that why people that get knocked out make that sound? Science!
She seemed like such a loving woman. I, and many others, would be blessed to have someone like this in our lives. The fact her great grandson referred to her body as “it” multiple times is sickening. This is so unbelievably sad.
Does anyone else just have nervous habits that would apparently make them appear extremely guilty in this situation? I constantly scratch my ear, rub my hair, and especially mess with my beard when talking to people I’m just meeting or not familiar with. These “indications of guilt” seem to go way overboard for me, because I guess I’d just be screwed when being interviewed even while being innocent.
You might be okay, they look at your baseline first to see what your normal behaviour is like without extra stress to see if it changes when they apply pressure. If you fidget usually they're be more likely to notice you stopping or changing what you're doing suddenly. I think they look for clusters of these actions too. Tl;dr you'd be okay as long as they knew their stuff and you were actually innocent :P
Bru i get a tick with my right wrist when I'm under pressure / stressed, and move my legs like crazy whole sitting down, i would be a 100% accused of something
Oh my God yes me! I sit there and constantly rub my arms my face rub my hands together shake my leg up and down and then cross my leg and uncross it 10 times Lean Forward lean backwards fix my hair God knows how many amount of times and so much more. The anxiety I get talking to anyone is overwhelming I couldn't imagine what it would be like in an interrogation!
Whether you're innocent or not, never enter a police station without an attorney. There's a reason we never see interrogation footage with a lawyer present.
When I was 13, I accidentally broke my neighbors ceramic squirrel garden decoration. I couldn’t sleep for days and had my mom call them so I could apologize through tears. It is unreal how little some people feel.
That is absolutely adorable I bet you are an amazing person ❤❤❤
You sound so sweet!
That shows what a sweet young fella you were and likely still are. It’s truly baffling to me also how little care some people have for other human beings. They killed a poor little old woman. How horribly sad and how pathetically cruel.
but who asked?
@@izJordyGaming incredible response. It’s one thing to think it, another to see straight past the fact that he’s talking about you 😬 and truly sad that you missed all that and actually thought your comment could read as anything except utterly embarrassing FOR YOU.
“There are none so blind as those that will not see”.. I’m hoping you’re just young and still stupid.. but if you aren’t young, it’s really too bad for the rest of us.
i know the operator was doing her job, but that is SO irritating when you are in the middle of an emergency and they cop an attitude with you. people are scared and confused and don't need that!
That aggravated me too. She literally sounded like that call was an inconvenience for her... like that womans mother just died! of course she doesn't want to go look at her moms corpse???
Seriously. Not a surprise is like no one does their job now days
The 911 operator was terrible and needs sensitivity training.
“I need to know if she’s breathing!!” Like what are you not gonna send anyone if she is? So frickin rude. Elderly woman, blood everywhere, she’s on the ground.. with a blanket over her head.. just reassure her daughter someone is coming! Jeez really upset me so much
I know right, it pissed me off when I heard her attitude. Like get a different job if you can't handle high stress situations like these.
That dispatcher pissed me off so bad. How dare she get an attitude with someone who just found they're family member dead. She needs to find a new profession.
I like how she waits for them to go check for a pulse before dispatching EMS or police.
Right. It made me so mad, too.
She needs to get suspended or lose the job. That’s not a job to play around with, go work at McDonald’s if you wanna have an attitude. SMH.
@@Peyote1312 you NEED to know this before dispatching any agency to the scene! EMS is an obvious yes, foul play or crime requires police on the scene, otherwise they would meet the victims at the hospital.
AMEN.
Murdering your great grandma, horrifically and painfully, for a pizza and some weed is the most hideous motive and action I've seen in a very long time. She had helped him out too, on several occasions and seemed like a very compassionate and loving old lady. His mother and grandmother must be heartbroken.
Right? I could never imagine doing that to anyone let alone a grandparent for anything but money and weed? Are you kidding🤦🏻♀️ I hope they suffer wherever they go.
He had issues when he came out the womb.... let's bring back death penalty. Clear up our prison systems... spend money on important things like eSports
Probably could of just asked her for £20 or something, not smash her head in absolutely crazy
Imagine your grandson murdered your mom or son murdered your grandmother. Nuts.
I cannot contain my disgust. Literal vomit.
When I was 13, I felt so bad for forgetting to tell my grandmother that I loved her when I left her house pre-occupied by getting home to play StarFox. The thought these kids could murder and rob his grandmother just completely baffles me…
Great Grandmother 😔 most do not even get to know their greats. He murked his. So sad.
What’s star fox😭
@@fw_vegas video game
Star fox bro yes!! Great game lol and if you don't know your to young
Shit I feel guilty about not calling my mother and im 26
“She asked us if we were cold”.
The last thing this total gift of a soul did with her time on earth was show compassion in the face of unrelenting, pure evil.
It’s really hard to think about that without getting a little teary eyed. Fuck man, rest in peace Grandma.
Probably was referring to their souls, damn.
those kids will burn in hell
@@XDMations They are not kids anymore. They are 25 this year
@@venomm4563 my point doesn't change
@@venomm4563 they say that they are 13 year olds
I bet this poor lady held him at his birth and thought he was so beautiful and that she was so lucky to be a great grandmother, all the while never knowing that that little bundle of joy would become her murderer. Life is a crazy crazy ride man.
🤯
Cradle to the grave
Yes it is.
Truly a hell
definitely wonder how much she was helping her family out. kid was being left alone regularly for hours at a time. he wasnt being given money, he only had one pair of shoes. where tf were the adults in this situation.
That 911 operator... talking to someone on the worst day of their lives as if the callers are an inconvenience.
They have to know if the victim is breathing! As far as the operator knows the woman needs cpr and an ambo. If she’s dead she needs police only.
Sending an ambulance to a dead body could result in the death of someone else who waited.
You're telling me it's easier to commit murder than it is to ask your mom for pizza? This isn't bad decision making, this is just evil
he didn't seem upset enough about going to prison for murder. this tells me something is dead inside of him - a lack of hope for the future. Makes me think his own parents and family failed him. Not an excuse for murder, but just saying that he is a product of his upbringing.
I mean he did get the pizza. My mom wouldn't give me money so I can eat pizza with my friend. She would tell me there's food in the kitchen, when there wasnt.
Even with talk that aside it’s still evil.
@@Himmy1000 but the extend to kill someone for pizaa is horrendous
@@jixinyi9735of course a horrible crime. I've seen the same thing happened for auto theft, when the vehicle is fully insured.
The crazy thing is, if he asked his great grandmother for money, she probably would of gave it to him. So sickening
All $20 off it
She would of probably gave them the $10.00 for the pizza but nothing for the weed which is what they really wanted.
@@Mr.HotRod my mom asks my grandma for weed money and crack moeny and just gets it.
thousands of dollars of it.
someone gonna lock her up? No. Do the cops get called when she screams at top of her lungs at me, and i get potentially arrested for her insane actions; yes.
all the yes.
all the no.
I hope someone arrests my mom, but she got away with a lot more than that.
I hope one day I can meet a mentor who will help me the way I never was helped so I can become employed and leave my situation.
sadly, my boyfriend has abandoned me, the same way my mother did when I was 9.
I hope the world just burns when I realize how unfair it is.
at the same time I'm contempt to know that a smile on my face brings a smile to all other genuine human beings which few exist.
If you read this and scoffed, congratulations, that's what's left of your great humanity.
I want to see more humanity before I leave this world.
just imagine asking anyone for money to buy weed. go earn that, otherwise how do you enjoy yourself knowing you're scumbag afterwards.
@@springchickena1 seek help, please. You sound extremely traumatized. There is hope, you don't have to feel this way forever. I hope you are able to get the help you need, and deal with all the ways she has hurt and continues to hurt you. And deal with the abandonment you feel from her. Because your bf didn't abandon you, he had no obligation to you whatsoever. You are putting that on him from the trauma of your mom doing it. I really hope you find a good therapist who can help you sort through all this ❤
My heart breaks just thinking about the fact that Barbara saw her great grandson attack her… it must have been so scary to see someone she loved and cared for do such a horrible thing to her… and I can’t even begin to imagine the pain Barbara’s daughter and granddaughter felt when they found out it was Antonio who had done it. What a tragedy for this family.
His mother is garbage she could not spread her legs far enough for the Neanderthal to breed her. The son is the same scumbag as his father.
That's what I thought about too 😭😭
We can only hope she was "overtaken" before she ever knew what was happening....
Horrific and sad. I hope she is resting in peace.
I agree,so heart wrenching
Imagine throwing your whole life away for $155, not to mention killing your own great grandmother. Crazy world
Bro imagine how many pizzas from Theo’s pizza that could buy, that’s like 30 pizzas
@@rq4740 damn bro
Prison will not be good for him with that Justin Beiber hair cut
@@rq4740 that ain't even funny.
@@KnottyCelticit was kinda funny
How many of us are so privileged to have a living great grandmother? This story is just so sad!!
I never was fortunate enough to know either of my grandmothers. My parents had me late in life & they lived so far away & neither had phones back then. So blessed was this little prick & she probably would’ve given him what he wanted if he had just asked!😢
And a great grandmother at that. I'm grateful that I knew my great grandpa until he died when I was 16, and I still have both grandparents on my mom and dad's side. A lot of people I know don't have any alive. It sucks knowing he hurt his great grandma
Yeah my great grandmother was born in 1872 so I didn't get to know her. Like you said what privilege
No great grandparents any longer. But my grandmother is 100, and she is awesome.
I had a great grandma til I was 25. My last grandparent passed in 2013😔
Knowing she spent her final moments pleading her great grandson to stop hitting her breaks my heart:(
Fam anit always family
@@princejudah3789 shut up bro
hey renren
It's indescribably cruel
So fucked up
At 15 I was into gangs, stabbed a rival who was 28 and just got out of San Quentin. He lived thank God but I was on a bad path. Ended up in San Quentin myself. All in all I served 13 yrs in installments, you know 4yrs here, 5 years there but by 32 I was done and turned my life around. Now I work as a youth mentor and peer support specialist using my lived experience to effect a positive change within the hearts and minds of all who I come into contact with. It kills me to see these kids make choices that there ain’t no coming back from. Kids think like kids and have no idea that one day they’ll grow up and not be the same person. We all grow, mature and change. Unfortunately for some it’s too late, the damage they caused is irreversible. I was them, thank God I was blessed with a chance yo turn it around. I’m married, have kids and speak at schools and institutions. I been home 20 yrs married 18 yrs and working in children’s mental health for 15yrs !
you go man!
bro im so happy for you❤
God bless you brother, you have a voice that can't be ignored.
Can I ask you why you where in that situation so young?
Why where you in to gangs?
@@LAoMARAo most gangs recruit children, it's how they get them to be integrated with the mindset. It's much easier to mold a 12 to 14-year-old mind than a 20-year-old mind. :(
I stole a package of m&m’s out of my grandmothers refrigerator when I was a kid. I felt so guilty. I’m 53 and I still remember it like it was yesterday. I could never fathom why people want to hurt the elderly. Rest in Peace to his Great Grandma. ♥️🌻
she asked them if they're cold... absolutely broke my heart, just thinking of how many times I've been asked by my grandmother if I'm cold, hungry or anything like that... most likely a very pure, honest and caring person killed brutally by a junkie kid, terrible.
THE KID WASNT A JUNKIE
@@xenomorph9205 you’re right he’s just junk 😂
@@xenomorph9205 pizza junkie
Bro is a killer not a junkie , i smoke weed everyday and never led me to kill someone
@@__marcioMX oh so you never got caught
2:09 One of the number one things that boils my blood is when 911 operators make their frustration known. This woman just walked into an absolutely horrific scene of her mom and the neighbor is obviously and understandably traumatized as well and the dispatcher cops an attitude??? I’ve listened to so many of these calls and I praise all the dispatchers who keep their calm and treat the callers with compassion and understanding 💗
To be fair they are trained to be that way. Their job is not to comfort you, but to get relevant information as quickly as possible and dispatch it to the right people, cutting through all the panic and confusion, as every second may count.
@@armoredp you're right but the fact she was being so rude isn't okay. the woman was clearly in distress to see her mother that way, and although the dispatcher isnt a grief counselor im sure she couldve handled the way she responded to the neighbor way better. remember that youre speaking to a human being who found her mother bloody and beaten on the floor with a towel over her head.
@@armoredpyeah but when someone has clearly seen something traumatic, it isn't in their training to direct that person to go relive the trauma, it's their job to keep the person calm and collect relevant information,, she had been told twice that she doesn't want to look
How tf are they supposed to go check if she's breathing without looking after what they described
"Lots of blood and blanket over the head" like wtf
Is she supposed to tell them to start doing cpr too on a woman who's head is half missing or what? 🤦♂️
Agree, what a stupid b.
I was thinking the same. Really boiled my blood
I’m sure she didn’t need to lift up the blanket to be scarred for life. What a absolutely horrible way to find your Mom.
that's why th4 cop call was dumb.. if someone is so frightened don't make thrm or a neighbor.. clearly something is wrong.
@@npcimknot958 Exactly... Ffs... Her mother is bloodied under a blanket, that would be traumatizing for her to go check if she's breathing even if she doesn't lift the blanket. It's not magically fine just because your mother's dead bloodied beaten lifeless cold unbreathing body is underneath a blanket 🤦♂️ prime example of a 911 operator being too desensitized. A paramedic can check on a bloodied victim's breathing. The victims daughter, 99% of the time, cannot. It's one thing to just ask... I don't have an issue with that. But the operator repeatedly pressing her really bugged me.
Not knowing the condition of a victim means there is always a chance they may still be alive.
😭🤦♂️
If she saw her mother with a crushed head it would have been far worse.
But why was Nathan’s mom driving Tino around and letting him sleep over if he was a runaway with a warrant out for his arrest?
Cause she's a piece of garbage mother. Didn't say a word when his son was confessing. She doesn't care about him clearly
I can only assume she took the 50/50 gamble that Nathan would be a good influence upon Tino long term, hence going above and beyond to help/ support him.
I think it’s because both sound like they have dysfunctional families mom could be an alcoholic or drug addicted and not present in there life’s it’s really common
Thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos, educating all of us viewers while also showing the process of getting justice for the victims. I appreciate the subtitles as well because channels similar to yours rarely have them.
Are there any other channels like it? I could watch these videos all day long.
@@Mrbonus2 audit the audit does videos on cop encounters but has a similar style of presenting info
@@liamdowling14 sometimes, when people do good work, some people are willing to show their appreciation towards it, or even pay. You should check into that, one might even make a living out of it.
@@liamdowling14 you know their videos aren't monetized right? That means the only money they'd be receiving is from their patreon (if they even have one)
@@liamdowling14 Because he's a generous person and clearly believes in supporting content creators who put time and effort into making videos. Plus, it's not that much money.
Their faces at the pizza place show how unconcerned they really were over what they had done.
I know! I can’t imagine how after doing something so diabolical, they got the guts to enjoy pizza and other things. However, I do wonder if they did feel any guilt at all but tried to suppress it.
This Kids are just soziopath
they were happy as hell
They just did not care and wanted to have fun after they got the money
they were high too, if i was high after committing any kind of crime, especially murder, i would be anxious out of my damn mind
The bit in this is so heartbreaking where the Grandma is asking them if they are cold in the garage just before they killed her. I bet she was just about to feed and warm the two boys and then the unimaginable happened. I read a comment below how Barbara would have surely held Antonio as a baby and thought he was simply beautiful and no doubt wondered what many magnificent things life would have in store for him. So sad in many ways.
I also bet she was about to Water the 2 boys
People like to put their own life experiences onto others.
Making them sound like horses
What is truly unbelievable, astonishing and frightening is how the normie NPC zombies are so arrogant and ignorant about the realities of this world and they STILL keep forcing others into this death trap existence where people die every 30 seconds REGARDLESS OF AGE AND METHOD and horrible crimes are committed ALL THE TIME BY THE VERY PEOPLE THEY FORCED INTO EXISTENCE, INTO A DEATH SENTENCE via breeding like absolute demonic unconscious animals. ...
@@name8329 I know right? Such a disrespect to horses
Damn smoking weed that you bought with money stolen after murdering your/your friends grandma has got to be the worst vibes imaginable holy shit
Nightmare blunt rotation
Vibes with you and your family. You clearly don't have any chance of being able from a reality that you are just hold the planet.
@@Folami-Marijaniwhat
I think having Nate’s mom there is what helped break him down. The fact that she wasn’t trying to cover for him, he knew she wasn’t going to.
It’s insane even more incomprehensible how upset Nate is versus “Tino”
@@JessLBreen I'm sure the Olsen side of the family is devastated enough to swamp Tino.
This is typical white people behavior.
Makes you wonder where their dads are.
She was probably at her wits end dealing with his increasingly criminal behavior, worrying that he was gonna end up in prison as an adult. When she realized he took part in a murder, I imagine she finally gave up.
The fact that Tino can continually call his great grandmother “it” as he describes trying to move her body, tells me everything. The other boy clearly had remorse, yet it wasn’t his family member. I believe Nate’s version. Tino is someone who lacks any emotion and empathy and hopefully he never gets out of jail. Poor Barbara and the rest of her family.
Yeah, Tino is just a cold-blooded and heartless murderer. His demeanor is disgusting.
Yeaj but thats only when they got caught. Looking at their smiles eating pizza should tell you what you need to know
"it" as the body.
It's not remorse. It's only fear for his fate.
@@imnotspookz are you going to call your dead family member it? No you dont’t call the person a body, you call them he/her/ name
After watching so many of these, I'm very certain I would never pass an interrogation even if I was not guilty.
You would. Even if you were acting extremely nervous, homicide investigators will easily be able to differentiate between certain behaviors. DNA evidence and having an alibi would seal the deal for your innocence.
@@Jc-ks5lxoh yeah, they NEVER get the wrong person
You should never ever say a word other than you need a lawyer. There's nothing anyone can say to these detectives that is going to help themselves. Usually you're there because they believe you're guilty.
I know...I do all that behavior just trying to speak with authority
Yup the interrogation room is the Gamer over level!
People who are impatient with horrible attitudes should not be dispatchers
I know, they have such a huge number of eager candidates, I don't know why they would take anyone who isn't top notch material.
Even dispatchers are human beings who can have a bad day or going through something horrible themselves.
@Lasse3 Thank you for saying this. The comments are filled with sensitive pussies that refused to see the other side of the coin because the operator was "tOo iNsEnSiTiVe". It's just irritating to see so many people be so weak online.
Jesus. I remember when I was 13 there were a few instances of me lying to my parents about minor things, or cheating on a test or something of that nature and the guilt ate me alive. I cannot comprehend how two 13 year olds could be so cold and callous and evil to commit an act like this. It’s truly terrifying.
when i was 13 i didn't even think about stuff like cheating cause i didn't have the braincells to think about that and if i would have try cheating at some point, i would be too scared to get caught
Soft
@@dan8832 headass
@@dan8832 ur not soft jst bc ur showing ur not as horrible of a person as a literal murderer , grow up ffs
@@dan8832so edgy 🤪
Thank you for putting subtitles on your videos. UA-cams subtitles suck. It makes a big difference in the quality of your video when I can actually read everything that's being said. In these interrogation videos it can be really hard to hear/understand everything being said. Your videos are amazing. One of the best of its kind 💯
I know they will say a word like wrong and UA-cam will write in dong or thong lol
@CincyKrisHammer
Those mistakes can be entertaining but it must be difficult for people who fully rely on the subtitles to understand the video.
I don't mean to relate to Mr.Beast, but I believe he subtitles his videos in as many languages as possible. I think he also does audio dubs but I'm not sure. It helps with his global audience
@@boblaw4483 what the fuck does that have to do with anything relating to this video lmao
@@inlinechris it has to do with the comment I replied to. A diversity of subtitles languages provides viewing access to non English speakers. You're hostility has been noted 👍
Him getting hit by a car actually explains this whole thing. I've read about lots of instances where head trauma caused people's personalities to radically change. This kids empathy is obviously off-line. Everything about this is sad.
Tend to agree, Richard Hickock was never the same after his head injury, neither was Alexander Pichushkin. Not to mention Charles Whitman.
Empathy knocked right out of him.
@@faunbudweis Professional wrestler Chris Benoit.
@@NotMorganFreeman.Hos was CTE but yes brain damage can make you crazy.
People don’t tend to realize how much TBI changes a person ENTIRELY. My mom is still here but she’s not the same. It’s like we lost her the day that happened.
Imagine having your life valued as 155$. That's just heartbreaking.
Exactly what I was thinking.
$155
Yours, your ggrandson's and his friend's
Most of these murders are by partners, children, friends, and grandchildren. Don't have children, partners, or friends and you reduce your chance of being murdered to a relatively miniscule amount, especially if you also avoid high crime areas, and maintain situational awareness.
If you don't do these basic things, they you are choosing to take a risk with your life.
That seems a bit high
Just because they are kids does not excuse what Evil crime they have committed its disgusting. Rest in Peace Grandma
I remember that little four year old toddler, in the U.K. James B. who got killed by the two 13 year old losers. People called them monsters and aptly so! They are now out of prison which is maddening!! They should have got life!
@@EviMlcak THEYRE OUT?!
@@_JustJoe It happens too often.
Toddlers are psychopaths but usually with teaching and peers most kids will right themselves by the time they are 5. after that.. it can be a lost cause. The worst bullies I knew as a kid many ended up in jail.
@@EviMlcak they where 10 when they killed James which is even scarier to me that 2 10 year olds can commit such disgusting acts on a baby.
I was privileged enough to have my great grandmother in my life until I was 13. Her children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren were her pride and joy. She loved us and we loved her. I’m sure Barbara felt the same way about her family. To meet such an awful fate at the hands of your own great grandchild… absolutely disgusting.
You sure assumed a lot of things right there. I am going to assume your assumptions are wrong. In fact, I think a smart person wouldn't assume shit. Because we have no facts about hes childhood, hes actual relationships with hes family, you base all your assumption from one comment in a video, ''are you cold? come in?'' Please get some education. That being said. Murder is wrong. But being stupid is also wrong. So stop making stupid assumptions... I rest my case.
To even give a contrasting experience while still not resulting in violence: my great grandmother was a horrible woman. She was cruel, manipulative, and selfish. We argued a lot because I wouldn’t tolerate her saying awful things about other relatives.
Never once did I give a thought to harming her. I did chores for her and held her arm as she walked when she was too frail to walk unsupported. She was a monster until the day she died, but violence never crossed my mind.
It takes someone so cruel and cold to commit an atrocity like this.
@@Savvy. my great grandma was the most evil person I've ever encountered and I can't imagine letting anything bad happen to her even because of other people or a fluke accident let alone stomach doing something to her myself and definitely not as horrific as what these boys did
I'm 15 rn i still have great grandma😁
@@Savvy. Mine was violent, problematic, 'cost' my grandmother her home country and ultimately had dementia. My grandmother, who ultimately became very, very difficult, and who had put her in the home at 90+ (great grandma really hurt her when she kicked her in the belly. In fairness to GG, she thought grandma was her own abusive mother. She was sure that MY mother was my grandmother, and ADORED her). Grandma would come to ensure that she was fed, because they did not like doing that apparently. She passed when I was 7, almost 50 years ago. NO ONE (well not the relatives) thought about killing her. Also though, none o9f us were that form of mentally defective.
Narrator: it seems unlikely that someone would completely forget something that happened only a few days ago.
Me: *forgetting things that happened today* 🥴
I basically came here to say the exact same thing.
LOL, I feel this comment…
Me realizing that was a red flag to investigators scares the shit out of me because bro idek what day of the week it is half the time how tf am I supposed to remember times and dates too?
The person on the other end of the police call was at best rude and at worse extremely apathetic. It was so disheartening
They're supposed to be. They are there to (a) dispatch help; (b) gather pertinent information for the help before it arrives so they can get straight to work; and (c) lower the pulse to keep everybody as calm as possible.
yes, i would not ask that questions just send both ambulance and police asap wtf.
They must be mentally ill to some degree in order to behave that way while holding that responsibility in such an urgent situation. I'd expect more from a 9 year old.
@@padddy48they kind of need to know if the victim is breathing or alive. It's pretty important information. The more information they have the better prepared the ambulance can be
@@padddy48 you know they are probably doing that while asking questions? Use your common sense. Unless you're really that dumb.
i learn so much about the legal system, interrogations, non-verbal cues, and what to look out for in "sketchy" situations when i watch your videos. thank you for all the work you do in providing this type of content!
My sentiment exactly!! You do your best in raising them, and pray that make well grounded decisions! 👍🏾
Yeeeeeaaaah, that Wisconsin girl needs some re-training.
Dont watch too many of these,
impressions are food & these
types of crimes can f you up.
@@hara3435 you right brother
The next thing to learn is never, ever, under any circumstances talk to the police. Lawyer up immediately and then shut up.
I bet she would have given him money if he really needed it. That "She asked us if we were cold" line is after seeing that people broke into her home. Most people would be mad and scared. But she was concerned for them. HOW DOES SUCH A KIND SOUL EXIST! She sounds too good for this ugly world. Rest In Peace Gma 🙏
i honestly felt really bad and just sad for her after that line, ive watched a lot of these and that line is geniunely one of the most sickening and disturbing ive heard
They had masks and shit on too im pretty sure.
unlikely it's just an act
A friend in my teenage years got so drunk he walked into a strangers house and slept on the couch. The old woman woke him up, made him breakfast and proceeded to have an hours long conversation about human behavior, consequences and lessons she’d learned over her almost 80 years of living. She didn’t call the police and he’s lucky she didnt, she chose to be kind and use the opportunity to educate him. It completely changed the road he was going down and all of us were impacted by it as well. I still to this day hope (most likely not alive anymore) that she knew what an impact that made on not one but several 18 years olds at the time. Now had he been a narcissistic mop head like this bum it wouldn’t have had an impact.
Sad that her grandkid is demonic.
Wow I remember at 13 years old doing normal kid things like playing outside with friends or playing video games. What is wrong with kids these days? $155!?
I sold fish and crabs and had a paper route at 13 yo. This was 55 years ago, times have changed
@@ChrisCarlin-is8wvso only adults can murder someone? 🤦🤷💀
wait til you hear about serial murderers of your era
Today’s generation is very shallow and self centered. … even at levels that don’t reach this type of extremes. More kids today are depressed , on psych meds , have some type of mental health issues like anxiety self deletion ideation, don’t see a purpose in life but self gratification, are rebellious against authority , and they don’t have a firm level of consequences … natural or imposed …for their actions before it gets to the point of danger for themselves or those around them. ( makes me think of the teens somewhat recently in the news who stole a car and crashed into another car ending the life of a 6 month old. They were released with minimal consequences)
Video games and social media.
Anyone who remembers middle school properly can believe that a teenager is capable of evil. Most of the cruelty I experienced growing up was at the hands of my peers, not adults.
I used to joke that my lil sisters were evil. Kids will be kids. Kids are not inherently evil.
@@Torriotorres this one was
Been there fr. When they found out I had asthma I just didn't know why at the time they would purposely trigger it. I honestly hated elementary to middle.
@Torrio Torres Some kids *are* inherently evil. The torture they can dish out on their peers is not normal and should not be normalized with some "kids will be kids" bs.
Kids act the same way their parents act behind closed doors. The difference is the kid doesn't realize it's not okay to do it in public. Kids attitude's are a direct translation of how the parents act at home. I don't blame kids for being evil their parents are evil and treat him like he's worthless. It's not a surprise this kid acts the way he did, parents weren't even there for him and treated his life (a human life) as if it doesn't even matter. So sad.
Please don't bother telling me this kid had a mental illness. Lots of kids grow up with multiple personality disorder and don't go around breaking the law and killing family members. Love cures all this kid was set up for failure.
It takes a lot to genuinely scare me, but this is terrifying. I’ve never seen someone so young be so cold and so remorseless. I’m at a loss for words, honestly. This is insane.
Sadly, work in public schools and you will see a whole lot like this. Very scary.
And we have a generation of kids being raised like this. To "find their own path". Well, you know what a kid wants, who was raised without restraints or moral consequences? Pizza and weed money! And if Grandma is the means to get it, so be it.
he shouldn’t be charged because his brain isn’t developed (not my opinion, but the worlds opinion)
@@oldhickory4686 this was in 2012 not now that crazy guy is not 13 anymore hes about 24 or 25. rotting in his prison cell
@@gigiearth Are you implying that kids like him don't exist anymore?
It’s so scary that your own blood can do something so horrific.
Makes me see why the character Vaas made that speech about family. It's either them or you.
That’s why we have to be close to Hod always n trust no one!ni daughter or son relatives strangers not even our shadow
Cain killed his brother Abel, this was the first murder. Sin is no respector or persons, The Bible tells us that mans heart is evil because of sin, we've all sinned against God , Easter is coming soon, this is our only hope. Jesus became our sin on the cross and rose again, -we all need him, or we die in our sin
@@kristophstjames4143 that’s all good but it doesn’t make being betrayed by your own family any better.
@@kristophstjames4143 Only in America will people blame mental illness and neurological disorders on magical sky daddy. No wonder the country is a shit hole
I’m convinced that the prerequisite for being an operator is an uncanny ability to transform into a piece of shit when it’s time to actually do your job.
The prerequisite for being an operator is being actually willing to apply for the job, and then listen to horrible stuff all day mixed in with people calling over complete bull and verbally abusing you. In this case they have a person who might still be alive and moments from irrecoverable death and she wants someone to go and see if they are breathing and they are wasting time.
@@justforever96 I hope you can stay competent if you’re ever experiencing both a traumatizing event and the worst day of your life. The concept of a “fight or flight” response includes flight as an option for a reason. The human brain can’t always process what’s happening when crisis happens. Also, if you’re so easily jaded by people being mean to you in a job where it’s expected to happen that you start to disregard everyone calling for help, you aren’t fit for the job.
Disagree. 🤡
@justforever96 there are still better and more empathetic ways to speak to quite clearly traumatised people!!!!!
Emiru from wolverine in cheap way to your example. The company has had photoshop and unswirl years and we will get to see. He is not working on the planet.
Imagine, 78 years of life, to have it be ended by some despicable kids. Unbelievable.
This kid is scary af. At 13 I couldn't pretend to be that ignorant of the situation even if I was accused of swearing at my grandma.
Then you are easily scared. He is probably very scared himself.
@@phixphixation7261 I have to disagree with you, he’s a textbook psychopath..he has no remorse, and it’s pretty clear that he could care less about what he did to his own grandmother. He’s emotionless.
@@meghanm5000 Do you think people are born a psychopath? It is something you can become, if he were emotionless he would not be alive, everyone has them, but they can be buried deep enough for you not to recognize them. You see a very brief and superficial depiction here of a long and complicated story. He was the victim of a car accident with resulting brain damage, do not underestimate that. He probably felt he had nothing to live for anymore, that will certainly zap the life out of anyone. Don't be fooled by what little you see here.
I know. Right?
@@phixphixation7261 yes people can be born sociopathic, but go ahead and defend the murderous 13 year old bud 😂
the fact that he keeps referring to her as "IT" after the death is incredibly telling. so sad RIP
Reminds me of silence of the lambs. It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again.
@@Phantom-darkness for real
when i was around 12, i was doing my grandmas makeup while staying at her house. i didnt have makeup brushes, so instead i was using regular paint brushes. when i was doing her eyeshadow i accidentally poked her in the eye with the brush. i felt bad for an entire week and was constantly apologizing. i cant fathom killing a person close to u and having absolutely no remorse.
Awe doing grandmas makeup is so cute 😢 this made me feel better about listening to this story. I wish I was close to my family like that…
Imagine having a literal heart of gold, watching your great-grandson and his friend break into your garage and being concerned for THEM rather than yourself, and having your life brutally end for $155 dollars. Absolutely heartbreaking. I hope she’s in a better place now
Figurative, not 'literal' ......js 😋
@@RichardMcLaren "Figurative, not 'literal'" *snort* 🤓
Ok that was kinda mean mb
@@SolarisKanethere is. I don't know what about the afterlife upsets you atheists' so much
@@SolarisKane you're comparing fiction to reality. Something a human came up with vs a deity. We're not even gonna go on about that topic because athiest don't understand what the word Deity means and instead try to apply logic onto that deity as if that deity didn't create logic itself. Which is why me and you can't talk about this because you don't care to even look up the definition of deity or God. You'll rather think in a Gothic way and believe that when your life is over, everything you did in your life was for nothing because you cease to exist after it's over.
So we'll rather stay on our end and think peacefully and you can stay on your end where y'all believe that your lives are bulbs of light.
@@SolarisKane also I don't know what this whole "to force people to join their religion" thing is about. Trying to make someone think in a peaceful way even if God isn't real is better than letting them think that they have to speed run life because they only get one shot. That's why y'all do crazy shit like this shown in the video now. Because y'all think that there are no consequences after death.
Again, let us be peaceful while y'all stay miserable thinking about what you will and won't have time to do while you're alive.
Even if an atheist isn't evil they still can easily turn evil and do some evil shit. Because at the end of the day their mindset is still, "Even if I get sentenced to death, even if I get sentenced to life in prison, even if I get killed in prison, or whatever else may happen to me, I'm going to die and cease to exist". It's obvious as hell that y'all think like that too. There's a reason that the none insane serial killers are athiest. Y'all think like that, y'all don't gaf.
Either ways. How are you gonna tell someone that is at peace that their reason for that peace isn't real? Do you see how evil that sounds already? Y'all evil, simple answer. That's like telling a toddler that Santa Claus doesn't exist. 🤨😑
If you walked up to a random stranger and explained to him that God wasn't real and that he wouldn't get to see his deceased mother again in the afterlife. Let's say he chooses to believe everything you say. Do you know how deadly that man would be? How corrupted his spirit and way of thinking may become? That's what I mean when I say "y'all evil". Because y'all would rather break take the idea of "Eternal Paradise" from the minds of somebody. Like I said before, even if God isn't real and there is no afterlife. Let them continue to believe that. Like really think about it for at least once in your life. At least they're not doing anything to avoid getting into heaven. They're spreading love to their peers, they're being generally good people, and you'll rather take that from them.
I'm sure you see what I mean now. You're 𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙇. In the Bible, what I just explained is literally the Devil's job. Lucifer Morningstar himself. Do you understand how evil you have to be to truly want to do that to someone?
Imagine a kid who grew up not even knowing of God's existence. Now imagine a kid who has and wants nothing but to be with God. Who do you think is living a better life?
My point stands. 𝗘𝘃𝗶𝗹
I keep thinking about my sweet grandmother making sure we were all fed. We were poor and couldn't afford the stuff we wanted as teenagers but she made sure that we were loved and taken cared of when we visited her.
Oh that's beautiful god bless her
She would of gave that stupid kid money too but he’s too stupid to know that
Honestly the manager of that 911 operator should be held accountable for either hiring that person, or not putting her on a PIP. For her to speak to that woman like that is deplorable. She more than likely wasn't a good fit for the position. This is not the type of work where you overlook that kind of thing.
I use to think Human resources people were the dumbest of the dumb until I heard 911 dispatchers. Bottom of the barrel.
She sounds annoyed that they were asking her for an update.
Also, "Just have the neighbour look" when she's been told there's blood all over, she's covered by a blanket and not moving.
All sings that she's dead, and graphically to. Just give the neighbour trauma for no good reason
"How did the blanket get over her head", just wtf? Just send some-fucking-body, for fuck's sake!
@@Arsenico971 Exactly! A couple years ago I had to call 911 and I told the loser weasel scumbag dispatcher to STFU! You have my address and hung up. Why people talk to these idiots os beyond me.
@@LAoMARAo she was dismissive, and put someone else in danger.
As a 911 operator she had a duty of care that she failed to uphold.
You are meant to assume the truth, unless given reason not to, even then you still send some one round.
The whole thing is absolutely horrifying, but when his friend talked about her "snoring" i just know that was her dying and her most likely gargling on her own blood. My dad passed away recently and there is something called "death rattle" which is what happens when someone dies only hers probably would have been amplified with the blood. I will never forget that sound. It still haunts me. I had leaned in to let my dad know that i will never forget him and while my son isnt old enough to remember him, i would be sure that he would know about him. He passed away a few minutes after that.
this is so sad. the fact that she asked if they were cold and took them in breaks my heart. it baffles me how people can do such horrible things.
psychopathy.
She prob would have given them money
they’re a byproduct of an extremely violent and insane society.
If it truly baffles you, you have lived (maybe too) secure life. Real world is like the jungle, but imagine it in 3 colors only. Everything is black, not dark, but black light. White for the eyes and teeth swooshing around. And blood red. Monsters are born every day.
@@blayasblay3941 i haven’t lived too secure of a life. it’s just i don’t think the same way as a killer, so it’s obviously gonna shock me. i have sympathy for the victims and it’s my way of expressing how bad i feel
To hear this kid describe his own grandmother, after killing her, as an "IT," outraged & broke my heart.
♥ RIP, BARBARA ♥
Doesn't that at least show he felt maybe a slight hint of remorse since he didn't want to clearly say out loud what he just did to his own gran?
@@David-ph2dl whaaa!? Are you really defending a monster?
cry baby
@@gorillacookies3171 a monster ??? its a fucking kid😂, you are a slave to people worse then this kid, this kid is nothing compared to whats out there in plain sight, don’t be so stupid
@@David-ph2dl no. He has disassociated her life/ meaning from her deceased body. It’s probably one of the contributing factors into what made it easy for him to make that decision. Once she’s no longer able to have impact on his current world (move, run, exist, whatever) his brain checks it off as a task done. It’s no longer “grandma” and it’s just a body to him, sure it’s hers, but from his pov he already disassociated her from her body. I can’t say that’s exactly the case, however it’s more than likely so. If it had really bothered him, he wouldn’t have used “It”, he more than likely would have completely avoided the question or broke down in hysteria and plead. The “It”, in my opinion, established his mentality and his lack of empathy or feeling towards his actions/ the situation at all.
Disturbing that someone so young is capable of doing something of such evil magnitude
It will happen again more than 10.000 times before humanity finally dies completely. People are just indoctrinated feral people.
For such a minor reason, too.
Weed and pizza, really?
So senseless.
Thanks to his video game education in part I would say. Has no idea what real and not real consist of.
@@kennyc388 no way you’re tryna blame this on video games 😂
@@kennyc388 I remember learning how to drive from playing GTA 5 when I was 13. Oh wait, that never happened. But I definitely remember learning how to shoot and stab people. Wait.... That never happened either
God damn. When I was 13 I was trying to figure out how to snatch crawfish from the pond to sell... I made over 300 bucks in a few weeks once I did because this woman from the south saw me and became my best customer. I bought SO many red gumballs I got sick. I had a lot of fun and my grandmother bought some of the crawfish... What a contrast...
That's King shit right there.
Crawdad hustler
I lost my grandma 1 1/2 years ago I’d give anything to see and hug her one more time. Seeing this is heartbreaking.
Lost my Grannymoo (unexpectedly) in September and I’m right there with you! I’d give just about anything to have one hug and conversation with her. You have to wonder if these kids (especially her great grandson) went through some kind of trauma to make them not quite right, or if dude was just born a psychopath because, wtaf?!
Sorry you lost yr Grandma 🥺
I lost mine 2 years ago this week. my grandmother was the best person I knew, I can't imagine acting with such callousness like these boys. I'm sorry for your loss.
I lost my grandma in 2019, so 3 and a half years ago. When me and the family talk about her, I know it sounds a tad heartless, but we were glad that she died in 2019. As she was suffering from Dementia and just wouldn't have understood the rules about Covid. This would have damaged everyone including our Grandma. So when this Episode began, I immediately looked at my grandma's picture and felt a wave of both disgust and a level of Anger that went beyond the level of that particular word and more into a brief Berserk Fury. I feel untold amounts of sympathy for the women in question and all members of that family who weren't a part of what happened. What those two fools did was unfortunately typical of humans, as Animals don't kill for monetary reasons. Sorry this seems like a long winded talk, it's just both sad to talk about her and I wrote from my heart to cleanse my negative emotions about watching this video.
Exactly what I was thinking. We lost our grandma to corona and every single grandchild was torn apart by it including my little brothers I could never imagine them hurting her in any way. This lady deserved so much better
What is truly unbelievable, astonishing and frightening is how the normie NPC zombies are so arrogant and ignorant about the realities of this world and they STILL keep forcing others into this death trap existence where people die every 30 seconds REGARDLESS OF AGE AND METHOD and horrible crimes are committed ALL THE TIME BY THE VERY PEOPLE THEY FORCED INTO EXISTENCE, INTO A DEATH SENTENCE via breeding like absolute demonic unconscious animals. ...
I was still reading books about fairies and vampires when I was in the 8th grade. The idea of someone of that age being capable of something so horrific is deeply unsettling. Like where did these kids grow up the island from Lord of the Flies?
Good analogy! Couldn’t have said it better!
They grew up in modern America
@@gloriouslyaesthetic So did millions of other non murderers🤡
@@gloriouslyaesthetic eh idk about that. Modern America has a slew of problems, along with most developed countries. However, psycho kids have killed worldwide for generations. Hell look at those British kids who were even younger that abducted and murdered a toddler. Or the 12 year old Japanese girl who razored her friend to death at school. There's a ton of killer kids throughout history.
It's crazy. Same goes with kids doing drugs at like 11. It blows my mind. I feel this kid might have had a chaotic upbringing, since he had a great grandma that was only 78. So she became one at 65. So this family was having kids in their teens every single generation. This can lead to a ton of issues with raising the kids and poverty since the parents are kids themselves without much life skills to raise kids. Add that up for generations and you end up with messed up kids who are 13 yet have a history with police and having a social worker. His mom was probably hardly a mother to him, and God only knows where the father is.
This is the issue that many inner city poor black kids face and why it's so hard to fix it. Single moms having kids at like 16 for generations leads to very little accumulated wealth and parenting knowledge. Each generation ends up in a worse spot than the last, with a least stable environment each time until there's no structure in these kids lives, no lessons of right and wrong, no discipline or learning how to grow up. It's really sad and highlights how important protection and proper judgment is when you're young and first having sexual relations.
So yeah considering he was in shelter care, had history with cops, and such a young great grandma leads me to believe he wasn't a "normal kid" when it comes to upbringing, which could have caused a ton of anger within him. Whatever caused it, kids a monster and belongs in prison for a very long time.
My god that child had zero regrets about killing his great grandmother. His poor mom and grandma…I can’t imagine how they’re feeling.
@@Leo23XR it’s not that serious
@@Leo23XR You're still very much a child at that age, at least mentally, if you said 16 I think people would be more understanding. Yes im very much aware of the "teen" conotation within the "age" but 13 seriously is still very much childish.
@@Leo23XR Here is a little something you can look up: "The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as, "A human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier.” This is ratified by 192 of 194 member countries."
If you’re under 18 you are considered a child in the eyes of the law. Until they decide to charge you as an adult. So yes. 13 years old IS a child.
You haven’t even finished it yet
He was so calm for his age, he really thought about every answer before he gave one… it’s chilling. This definitely wouldn’t have been his last time killing. Poor lady. She didn’t deserve that.
I finally read a comment that pointed it out… its very chilling for his age .. its very disturbing how he acted
Trauma to the brain certainly can cause the personality shift he experienced, from my second-hand experience at least living with someone who it happened to. My step-father ended up having a motorcycle accident where he hit his head, and subsequently had a stroke following that accident. Ever since then, he was never the same. He slowly descended into madness with apathy and aggression. One day, he opened fire with a gun in his room. My mother came running over and said "You better not be shooting holes in my house!" and was about to open his door, but decided against it. She and the dog escaped the house and went to the neighbors. She called me and I arrived to see the house surrounded by police, he was still inside with the gun. After what seemed like forever with them trying to contact him, another shot rang out and we knew it was over. The police tried to contact him for another 30 minutes or so before storming in there.
After this was all done, I helped clean up the room and rip out some carpet. They don't tell you about that part, the cops do nothing to clean up a scene... I noticed that behind the pictures on his wall, there was writing. I started removing the pictures and found all sorts of sickening mentally ill ramblings as well as threats to my mother. I checked his phone and saw he was talking to other people about killing her, and I knew if she opened that door that day, she would have been dead. He was never violent before, but we all saw the change happen before our very eyes. He refused help and just kept getting stoned all the time. I always viewed him as a scumbag, but he certainly wasn't like this before the accident. But after the accident he was always calm, even when he shouldn't be... Guess that's a sign.
Yep, one or both of them would have killed again if not caught going into their adulthood. Once you kill someone innocent for a selfish reason you will kill again.
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How can they interview a child without an adult present? Is that ok to do in America?
Murdering your ancestor at 13. This kid was born bad!
Dad should have worn a condom.
The description of which poor Barbara was found in was absolutely stomach wretching. These KIDS would have grown into adults, as even worse sociopaths they already are, at just 13. I'm glad they're off the streets.
My heart goes out to Barbara's family and to Barbara especially.
Tino seems like a psychopath. The kid has no emotions, no remorse and he even referred to his grandmother as’it’. The kid is as cold as they come.
Someone should have just loved the kid and none of this would have happened. Terrible to see this entire story. Good grief.
@@6kjrYou're so wrong it's criminal
@@jackcooper4075 I agree. But with such a young person they clearly weren't raised properly.
@@6kjr They can be raised properly and still end up criminals. There’s plenty of cases of children who had no family issues, but the child simply hangs out with the wrong friend group. Which is something out of the parents control. If the parents start controlling every little thing their child does and becomes overbearing. That is a case waiting to happen as well. Things simply are out of our control. Sometimes raising them right doesn’t do it, because there isn’t a perfect way to do it.
My great grandma made it until I was 22, she died last year just before Christmas. Everyone was devastated, there wasn’t a single person in my family who didn’t describe her as an absolute gem- “A rose of a woman” as my dad called her. She was so kind to me, always making sure to offer me food, a jacket, money- she bought my favorite books anytime she found them at yard sales. I cannot even begin to fathom ever attacking her for some mere pocket change, these boys are absolute monsters, it takes a special kind of evil to do what they did so mercilessly- not a breath of remorse in her great grandson.
The case is just devastating and heartbreaking, such a pure sweet soul of hers.
I lost my dad last month too, feb 18th. Im sorry tor your loss lindsey
I bet those grown men are not going to be empathetic in prison ! In fact,because of what Tino and Nate done,may actually make them walking targets among the inmates !
It’s good to hear the appreciation you had for your grandmother ❤️❤️❤️👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾, a lot of younger generation don’t appreciate/understand the value of older family member bring to the support/ foundation of the Family❤❤, Thank you for sharing the love you had for Grandmother..❤❤❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🕊🕊🕊🕊
its people that don't know their own value, the value of others
This kid is absolutely evil. Not only did he kill his grandma, talk his friend into helping him do so, but also ratted his friend out where the rest fot he weed was in his friends room. I hope these little monsters never ever get out.
Exactly smh what a shame
Execute them both, and don't waste taxpayers' money keeping them, and the rest.
why was he in a prison jumpsuit and handcuffed if this was the first time he was being interviewed?
@@Joru0906 He was in trouble for running from social care
ive worked in a juvee. I’ve seen the worst of the worst. and my perspective and opinion is still different than this.
Putting that clip of the liverpool fans watching their team lose was cold blooded
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Just saw that part as I read this comment 😂 👁️.👁️
😂😂😂
It’s really horrible to think that his grandma’s last memory was of her own great grandson killing her. 😢
Yeah thats fucked up
@@xCxrzed Very sad.
Heartbreaking!
That is horrifying to think that was her last moment. She was thinking this is my great grandson & he's killing me???? That is literally heartbreaking. That kid is pure evil af.
Think about the mom whose kid did this to her own mother
Literally just looked at my one year old daughter and thought about her one day having children of her own, and those children having children, and then one of those children bludgeoning me to death for $150. Unfathomable.
Guess you could require brainscans for them....esp the frontal lobe.
@@moviestarmemories630 In this modern world, you have to think about that. Kids these days are growing up with extreme brain-rot.
Not likely if they have a dad in the house, an authority figure - single mothers just can't raise responsible men. Kudos to the very few exceptions.
$55
My brother has a 22 year old son. He lives in his mother's basement and has never held a job. At some point moms money will run out. I know he has no intention of ever getting a job so...im not so happy that he knows where i live.
My great grandma will be 102 this August. She's outlived her entire family and lived through the great depression, World War 2, and the Civil Rights Movement. If anyone in our family had done something to hurt her, they would be DISOWNED. I don't remember everything from 8th grade, but I will always remember that I love my Mema. I hope they rot.
And the Covid Pandemic! Go Grandma, what a Hero!❤
That is amazing!! My mom is 94 and I love her stories. I record her and did the same for my dad who lived until age 94.
Are you typing this from beyond the veil? Spooky! Just kidding, knew what you meant. Does longevity run in your family?
@@doveandpatch sooooo far beyoooonndddd.... haha
Cap
If they talk too fast - guilty. If they talk too slow - guilty. If their leg moves at all - guilty. If they give short OR long answers - guilty.
Love these videos but still it seems like no matter what you do you’re viewed as guilty
They literally say it’s not really suspicious by itself but multiple indicators can mean something… psychology expert or not you can tell he’s nervous like its not that hard to understand
I just couldn’t imagine finding someone I love in that state. Absolutely tragic
And then getting bitched out by that fucking Karen at the 911 dispatch office. It's nice to know that thot probably got fired the following week pulling that shit on a caller in distress.
I have. Hope this kid rides the lightning.
Just wait until you find out who did it...
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When i was 13 my grandma died of lung cancer. She raised me and so many others and was a gem of a person. Grandmas normally have the purest type of love for their grandkids, i cant imagine taking that love for granted and ending such a sweet womans life for such selfish reasons
I can't believe the EWU crew has gotten so big I remember when it was just you then you and your daughter exploring the western deserts... Old cave, abandoned places, supernatural even. That was back when less than 1000 now your over 3.0 M subscribers it's crazy... Great job guys you deserve it you've come so far.
Wow! "I was today years old when I found out..."
Not the same people running the channel.
They sold the channel a couple years ago. It’s run by different people now
@90 Ping King is this mentioned anywhere? I'm curious as to why
@@chandlerwatts3948 The channel owner said he was bored with vlogging so he sold it.
This kid, Anthony, should never walk out of jail.
who
@@Xarael.Think he meant antonio
I disagree
He’s young and can maybe be rehabilitated
Nobody has ever been rehabilitated in history @@sankara5ever
@@sankara5ever He killed his own great grandmother just for a few dollars and didn't care. This is a mind that can NOT be fixed. If this brat held up a store or something, yes I'd say he could be rehabilitated but he bashed in an old woman's head and left her in the garage with a bag on her head and went to eat pizza. If this had been your mother or grandmother, would you say the same thing? People like you are why it's not safe to go anywhere anymore.
His grandmother was a beautiful woman. You can tell from her photo that she was a kind woman. Can you imagine the horror and shock she felt when this boy did this?
Easily the part that disturbs me the most is the sheer terror she felt in her final moments
You can't tell she was kind from a photo. She obviously shouldn't have been murdered but don't make shit up
@@bluecream78 Agreed. She could have been a complete azzhole for all any of us know. People are weird with their constant need to make 💩 up and believe themselves.
How can you tell from a picture that she was kind?
@@bluecream78if that was the feeling she got when she looked at her pic who are you to tell her that she is wrong? Get a life and stop trying to be the comment police!!!
I feel bad for his mom. She just lost her whole world in 1 day.
I have a feeling she maybe wasn't the world's best mother having raised a depraved little psychopath like she did.
So like don't think that too much, Even the Happiest seeming family someone can do anything. @@junkequation
She was probably relieved he was gone
@junkequation it's a case of aspd he was born an evil monster and will continue to be an evil disgusting person
Damn 😞 sad as hell
This is so sad to think her own great grandson and his friend could have total disregard for human life at the age 13. Truly heartbreaking I'm glad they got caught and hope that they realise what they did is disgusting and should NEVER have happened.
I can't even imagine what she must have been thinking that she's being beaten and then suffocated by her own great-grandson and his friend.
I had a friend who was strangled to death my her own 17 year old daughter & boyfriend. Then they buried her in a shallow grave after having her dead under the bed a few days while taking care of the younger 8yr old sister. Then they still moved the body to a different location while lying to everyone concerned & police sifting money & sympathy. They got life which is 25yr atleast...
@truebluedots4776 That's terrible I'm sooo sorry 25 yrs doesn't seem enough 💔
@@ritawashere5787 I thought that as well 💔
@@jennyvigar752 maybe it's due to their age 🤷♀️so much more to the story obviously..it's so surreal when things like this happen to someone you know or are close too.
Craziest interrogation technique ive heard by the lady at 20:53 sneaking a fart in 😂
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I adored my grandma. Grandma and grandpa were my anchors during my unstable childhood. I stayed with them every summer. Grandma was the one who taught me to read and cherish books, she taught me how to cook, to can, and all the other things I would need in life. Her death destroyed me for many years. This case saddens me greatly.
thank you so much for posting so consistently! us ewu fans are very thankful you are spreading awareness on cases such as this :)
@Tech how does one manage to accumulate MULTIPLE sexual assault allegations like that…
@Tech please find a hobby instead of hopping on youtube to post the same copy-pasted bait comment
@user-le9gl8ji3o why did you repeat yourself before lmfso
I went to school with these kids. They were a year or two younger than me. This isn’t even the only teenage killer that our town had, couple years later there was Dorian Torres. Crazy stuff
Jesus, what’s in the water over there? Lol
god dayummmm i would be fearing for my lifeeeee
put me in private school or homeschool me or someth'n, public school there just sounds like a death wish
I live in Plymouth rn and when I heard this was in Sheboygan I shit myself
@@Savvy. just Americans bro
He should receive additional years for that haircut.
It was with the times, remember Justin Bieber?
@@TheSnapbackjustice beaver the same as hell and unswirl are weak.
Social cues I've learned from these videos:
"Scratching is an indicator of stress and probable lying."
"Stretching is an indicator of stress and probable lying."
"Eye contact is an indicator of lying."
"Avoiding eye contact is an indicator of lying."
"Smiling is an indicator of being nervous and uncomfortable, therefore probable lying."
"Not smiling is an indicator of being uncomfortable, and therefore lying."
"Talking is an indicator of lying."
And this is just one more reason NEVER to talk to cops.
They are NOT your friends and the only thing they’re interested in is forcing a confession from you.
@Melanie Clark ....just a little weird hearing you say that on an old lady murder video but go off
Idk about you but those cops are my friends cause they keep psychos like that away from me
@@melanieclark2668 they only try to get a confession from you if they believe it was you, otherwise they normally don’t, so if you’re innocent you can talk to them, having an attorney there is probably a good idea either way though
@@Chris_Noir I get it. I'm with you, except when you're truly guilty, don't talk. The smallest contradiction can send you up the river.
@@Chris_Noir idc what happened lol don't talk to tye cops if your guilty or not lawyer up motha fucka
The fact there's no remorse from the grand son is sickening
He's a psychopath
He’s never going to be safe. I’m sorry to say because he’s so young but nope! You can’t come back from that no matter how much you mature and learn.
@@rocioaguilera3555 He’s a psychopath BECAUSE he got a TBI. At least that’s what was said in trial.
I feel sorry for the other kids in Juvenile Detention with minor offenses.
What is a TBI?
55 yo here, this channel has absolutely shocked me. The things that go on! When I was 12 I stole a battery from the newsagents and the guilt and fear nearly killed me.
At 12 i found a Playboy magazine in a trash can and the guilt of having seen that messed me up for bit... The cases Ive seen here blow my mind, and also opens it to all the craziness that goes on. unfathomable
65 yr old - I stole a lipstick and expected the police to show up at my door for WEEKS! (admittedly a very naive & innocent child!🤣)
Was there any charge?
Did anything positive come out of it
Was you going through a negative stage of your life?
Thank you so much for including the information about brain development, maturity, and the laws regarding the rights of minors during interrogations. Those things elevated this video to a new level!
I also want to give you guys major credit for using the right diagnostic terms for someone whose brain is still developing, as personality disorders are only meant to be diagnosed in adults.
These things trigger my passion, and it makes me so happy when such information is included. I'm really proud of you guys ❤
It’s surreal to me to listen to stories like this. I’m the same age as these kids and in 2012-13 being 13/14 years old I remember riding my bike, fishing with friends, setting off fireworks and running around the neighborhood. Doing something like this would never have passed through my mind, terrifying.
Also, Water ballons, tag, man hunt with nerf guns (aka advanced hide n seek), jumprope…. But never ever malicious thoughts, heck. if someone kept ding dong ditching too much, other kids would tattle on them 😅
Fortunately or unfortunately whichever way you look at it I was in a orphanage and like you wouldn't dream of hitting a adult even after get rip off by a old lady promising large sum to do her garden and giving me half,Apparently her daughter paid her a visit and decided it was too much money,She brought this up as i was leaving and i said why don't you do the garden and save your mum the money,I informed the house mother what i said better from me, She said it was rude but she deserved it advertising for a young man(13) and paying half the agreed amount,She didn't stop for weeks demanding i do her garden for half price involving the social workers who agreed with her until the house mother showed the advertisement and her promise,She dropped it after that,I held no malice but I'm not working for peanuts find someone else
The only "dangerous" things I did in my childhood was probably steal from stores. I had a little bit of klepto but I got passed that part of my life and left it behind. Your "friends" really do influence you to do wrong.
The most violent thing I did was practice throwing cringey comicon ninja stars at trees and stuff like wtf is with these kids
I was 12 or 13 and I was on a trampoline with my friend and I accidentally landed on his arm and it broke. That was almost 16 years ago, still haunts me to this day. I still feel terrible about it. From how young they where and still have no remorse from what they did. I can never imagine
Dang I bet that was traumatic for both yall
It would also haunt me to send a friend's family into medical debt.
@@MiGujack3 America is a sad country where you go into debt for something trivial like a broken arm. And the funniest thing is you got the most expensive health care in the world.
@@MiGujack3uhm that depends on the country. In my country by default every one should have a health insurance. There are some expections, but most have one. You wont be in dept for something like that. Not even when you have cancer since that is covered by the health insurance. Sometimes you still have to pay a bit but its not really that much and most people can afford it
@@WTfire10 Yeah. I frequently tell friends jokingly that if I broke a limb I'd just try to do an amateur brace because it's better than paying $2k or some stupid price and not eating for the next half a year.
The dispatch lady could have showed any amount of sympathy. This woman found her mother on the garage floor covered in blood an called the police for the dispatch lady to get snippy. Why do you need to know if she’s breathing. Send an ambulance
I agree she was snippy and it was unnecessary but dispatch needs to know if the person is breathing or not so they can then instruct the caller on the next life saving measures to take (like CPR or a tourniquet to stop bleeding)
But I agree the dispatch woman was rude and inconsiderate in this case.
@@mjg-98 "How did the blanket get over her head"
@@Sceptonicumm I think she may have been playing peekaboo 🤤
Right. At that point does it matter if she’s breathing? She’s in a pool of blood ffs.
The fact that she keeps talking on the phone does not mean she hasnt activated the ambulance call. She only has to make couple of clicks in the computer to send a request and it's another operator who actually calls the ambulance while she stays on the line with the caller acquiring more information. Well , normally that's how it is done. She is typing and clicking few buttons; another operator is in charge of passing the request on to the parademics. If I should point out a mistake here, it'd be she not informing that help was already on the way; she could have clarified that.
When I was 13yo I made flyers with friends for lawnmowing my neighborhood. We made more money than they did our first weekend and it was fun. It was the most grown-up I'd ever felt at the time.
There was something deeply horrifying to me about how Nate described the grandmother as "starting to snore" because deep down, I recognize that sound.
It's hard to forget how it sounds.. Agonal breathing - a reflex purely controlled by the brain stem as the body's last ditch effort to get oxygen to the brain.
Usually when you hear that, the person is as good as dead.
She was dead far before anyone could have had any chance of helping her.
I hope they burn in hell.
Thanks for explaining that a bit farther. For a minute, I thought that kid may have been mistaken her sounds. I thought he may have heard gurgling (possibly from choking on blood?) But what you say makes sense.
Tragically. There is no such place. It's just your commen grave. But I heard about it constantly from the nun's
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@@collieneopinions are opinions
@Colliene you feel good about yourself shitting on ppl's religion? Also rolling those dice, dummy?
Such horrible little demons 😈 Omg I can't begin to imagine how scared she was, just in terror! I And thank you 😊 for explaining the snoring term, altho itade me even more disgusted with them, I hope they get everything coming to them in SPADES 💯😥❤️🕊🕊
I cried an hour after i told my great grandma i hated her.. i was 7 at the time. The fact that they have no remorse after killing her is crazy
Did you watch? The friend had a lot of remorse
@@michaelsuder486crocodile tears lol, he's only sorry because he got caught.
@@VerminCrusher3010I'm so tired of people using that comment
Scary thing is, I work with teenagers and some, very few are exactly like this. No sympathy or empathy, it’s scary
I was like this, then I found out I had autism, I am still like this at 31, I just don't feel like murdering people.
@@NikomaGrob not everyone is the same
@@NikomaGrob are you not murdering people because you don't feel like it, or because you actually know right from wrong?
Ironically enough, I'm a 31 year old with autism too. Just curious about your answer.
@@AromaticAromantic I suppose both of those would be applicable. I don't feel the need to and even if I did I probably would refrain from it because I know the negative consequences that will most likely arise from it. Also it seems messy and I have no incentive to commit crime, I'm well off and like to keep to myself most of the time, as you can probably understand yourself. But then again I do believe I would be quite capable of it if I were to be put in a cage with another person without any food for a couple of days, as most would I imagine.
@@NikomaGrob B.E.R.K
Loved hearing the sentencing. Missing half their lives for little over $100 dollars. Yikes. RIP Great Grandma. Sorry to the families.
Nate’s mother is probably so traumatized or doing so many what ifs. Like if she never drove them there. Such an insane story
Nate's mother is guilty of bad parenting. She knew antonio left shelter care. Antonio is staying at her house for 4 days And she drives them over to Grandma''s house. She never asked questions about dropping them off his great grand mothers house.
@@serene889 she doenst knew it was his ggm home and she doesnt left then before the house it was 2 miles away fro mthe house where she dropped them of and they told theyll meet friends
In this case they should invoke the death penalty! Evil needs to dealt with accordingly!
She is a bad parent
@@serene889 No she isn't. She didn't know it was his grandma as she thought she was dropping them off to meet up with one of there friends. Even if it she did know it was his great grandma's house, dropping someone off at their family member house isn't suspicious.
Secondly he ran form the shelter because he didn't like being there which is why he ran. We don't know why he didn't like being there nor do we know what he told her to even make her consider him staying at her place. He could have easily said something like "they're abusing me" (which is common in shelters) which would naturally make someone let a child stay at there place if they think they're being mistreated at home/shelter
Three minutes in and I’m already crying this hurts my heart so much hearing her daughter over the phone talking to the operator I could never imagine finding my mom like that I think my heart would just break sending love to this family in this devastating time
To the operator😠 send the bloody ambulance & police, deal with questions once they are there. She needs a new job.😭 Poor grandma.🙏
Anyone else notice that the kid looks like he is wearing a helmet 🪖 in this interrogation? Maybe it just looks that way in my phone! 🤷🏻
@@dwmueller76 it does look like a helmet.. I think it's just the hideous 'Justin Bieber' style hair cut.
@@dwmueller76 and those annoying hair flips. 🙄
Crying? Maybe see a therapist. You’re too sensitive.
The "snoring" sound Nate talks about that he heard is actually called the "Death Rattle" to keep hitting her after hearing that is total overkill.
I've heard that sound before from a wreck I was in
It's the scariest sound I'll never forget
@@ritast.johnstiles8008 I hate it. I took care of my buddy for 12 yrs. He didn't pay me for 7 of them but I still took care of him with everything you can imagine.
The final moments of my buddy were hard, he started that death rattle, we were thinking it would be quick after hearing it.
It wasn't quick, it took 9 hours of hearing it. We watched the the movie "Princess Bride" and right when it finished it went silent.
I was the one that had to declare him dead, it was a very hard time in my life.
But it was a once in a lifetime moment, he gave me his house in the end. I still miss him, he was a professor at BYU of creative writing.
I was thinking of telling this story on UA-cam with different parts with a lot of detail to it all. Don't know if people would be interested in it?
I've worked in hospice for 15 yrs....
Regarding this story, it's sad they killed their grandma, obviously they are children, not fully developed in the mind. I hope they get the help and love they need.
@@NorkDorf You have me invested.
I've heard people make that noise just from being knocked out
@@mikefrost1312 I wonder if that's what happened. Maybe the tongue went back into her throat to restrict airways which made the snoring sound they heard. We will never know. Is that why people that get knocked out make that sound? Science!
That operator should be FIRED! WHAT A POS! So rude!
She seemed like such a loving woman. I, and many others, would be blessed to have someone like this in our lives. The fact her great grandson referred to her body as “it” multiple times is sickening. This is so unbelievably sad.
lol the fact that the family described her as "generally nice" tells you everything you need to know about how much of a bitch she was 😂
He killerd her im sure he dosnt want to give that more whaight in his mind
@@imjustaguy4340 He doesn’t seem emotionally bothered by it. Even his friend, who wasn’t related to the woman, was more upset. It’s disturbing.
I thought splitting her head open was the sick part, but I guess using impersonal pronouns is something
@@subg8858 Well it's the that he did that then called her lifeless body simply just "it." That is just so cold and evil.
Does anyone else just have nervous habits that would apparently make them appear extremely guilty in this situation? I constantly scratch my ear, rub my hair, and especially mess with my beard when talking to people I’m just meeting or not familiar with.
These “indications of guilt” seem to go way overboard for me, because I guess I’d just be screwed when being interviewed even while being innocent.
You might be okay, they look at your baseline first to see what your normal behaviour is like without extra stress to see if it changes when they apply pressure. If you fidget usually they're be more likely to notice you stopping or changing what you're doing suddenly. I think they look for clusters of these actions too. Tl;dr you'd be okay as long as they knew their stuff and you were actually innocent :P
Bru i get a tick with my right wrist when I'm under pressure / stressed, and move my legs like crazy whole sitting down, i would be a 100% accused of something
That's a big reason they say get an attorney even if you're innocent.
Oh my God yes me! I sit there and constantly rub my arms my face rub my hands together shake my leg up and down and then cross my leg and uncross it 10 times Lean Forward lean backwards fix my hair God knows how many amount of times and so much more. The anxiety I get talking to anyone is overwhelming I couldn't imagine what it would be like in an interrogation!
Whether you're innocent or not, never enter a police station without an attorney. There's a reason we never see interrogation footage with a lawyer present.
If you can murder your Great Grandma for $20, what would you do to a stranger for $10,000 ? They should never be released.
The way he hyped it up I was expecting they spent the money on something crazy, the whole time it was just weed lol