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Omg i loved him !! Episode 7 right before daemon takes ser William blackwoods head & they pan over to ser Simon & he goes “oh dear” 😂😂😂😂 he is so funny
I do like how he kept it real with Daemon the whole time and never tried to poison him or anything. Not until Daemon blatantly said he would betray Rhaenyra did Simon act
I really like Heleana. Such a gentle and misunderstood soul. To hear a Targaryen say “I won’t burn anyone”. She understands the power and destruction that their family holds. She doesn’t think unleashing dragon fire on folks is just a battle strategy.
Her son is dead and her brothers are fighting a war. She's useless and the writing for her is extremely weird how she just doesn't give a shit about Jaehaerys anymore.
@@MrFredsttI don't think she's useless, she just never cared about any game of Thrones. I don't even think Rhaenyra would kill her at this point, but yeah the whole forgetting about Jahaerys is weird, but many Targs are depressive, gloomy, with visions and kinda numb, due to the dreams that the have (liker her, Rhaegar and Daeron son of Maekar).
@@MrFredstt And this is why they should have stuck to the book. Helaena sunk deep into depression after Jaehaerys was killed, so her not being able to help makes sense as she's not mentally fit. They didn't do this on the show and because of this it opens her up to scrutiny.
@@quintboredom How is she not useless? She does nothing other than give spoilers to the audience. That's it. That's her entire function in the show. She's a non-entity. Compared to her book counterpart where is happy and loved by the smallfolk, sits on Aegon's council and gives him advice, rides Dreamfyre, and then after B&C goes on an extremely downward spiral bc the death of her son has completely broken her mentally like it would to any normal mother. Instead on the show we get someone who has no emotions about her children, doesn't affect the story in any meaningful way, and is essentially just a worse version of season 8 Bran.
@@Virgohorrorqueen1980 Exactly. The whole point was that she COULDN'T help her brothers bc she was so distraught over her son's death. It's much more compelling than a mother that just doesn't give a shit about her children and somehow doesn't care to get justice for it. Also the book did a great job in showing just how destructive and vile killing Jaehaerys was and how that haunts and impacts all of the green characters throughout the rest of the war while the show forgets about it after a couple episodes
Aegon really did not want the throne, Alicent forced it upon him and now she paying her freedom with his life HER SON, the only son who actually cared for her and loved her and seeked her council, no wonder he is what he is if that's his family.
I felt bad when he called himself the realm's delight. He wanted so badly to be loved. Rhaenyra had two loving parents and the whole realm saw her as their delight just because. He was never loved. Only his dragon loved him and his dragon is dead ( or so he believes ). I'm not blaming Rhaenyra for having what she has. It's not her fault that Aegon was neglected but I can empathize with with him on this. Being in the golden child's shadow and having you parents screw you up so badly. It's sad.
@@stefanvas6984 Aegon will always be dangerous as long as he breaths, he is the offically crowned king THE KING, Rhaenyra has to kill him to rule. Helaena and her daughter would be war captives if Rhaenyra found out that Aegon escaped.
Also, when Corlys told Rhaenyra that he renamed the ship, I don’t think Rhaenyra thanked him because she thought he named it after her. I think she was thanking him for still doing all of this to help her even after losing Rhaenys lol.
The shot of Alicent chewing her fingers, wearing blue, just brings back all these feelings, stress and fear she had as a child, I appreciate the callback. Also, I was worried that Daemons story wasn’t going to pay off considering how slow it felt throughout the season, but now I see that he NEEDED to have his ego and worldview be broken down by the dark magic of Harrenhal. By seeing the dream of the future, the song of ice and fire, after he sees that he never really needed the crown, he now puts all of his heart into fighting for Rhaenyra.
My complaint is that they spent five episodes to build suspense for him and the decision he'd have to make, only to basically throw it away. Regardless of whether he ultimately decided to fight for himself or come around to fully serving Rhaenyra the decision would have been cool and could have made sense, but instead they remove the decision and robbed all agency from Daemon with the weird prophecy scene in this episode. None of what he saw with Alys this episode was necessary, I wish they just extended the last vision of his brother for 2 seconds longer so he could give a one-word answer to whether he still wanted the crown.
@@Vincent-gl7bshard disagree. i think with all the visions he had beforehand, everything’s so much more ambiguous like he’s still power hungry deep down but also because of these visions he has a different perspective about his desires and ambitions. The prophecy ultimately makes him realize that he needs to support rhaenyras claim but what he himself wants as a person and as his own character was already questioned beforehand with his own visions. i think it’s a great mix though they could’ve definitely made clearer what exactly contributed to his ultimate decision. sometimes it’s better to not be spoon fed every single information
After rooks rest you literally saw the switch in criston cole. It was like he flipped a switch. After witnessing what war is like when dragons are involved he literally shut down cuz he knows. They are LITERALLY marching towards their annihilation. He was never more correct about something.
Who would have thought criston Cole would have the most introspective and correct moment in this episode. I think his reaction to dragon fight is so true to how most all of us would react. He’s not necessarily depressed, but almost accepting of his inevitable demise. In some ways he seems like the soldiers from winterfell, they know they’re going to die so they’ll fight as hard as they can
How is nobody looking for Rhaena? Do the guards not care? She has been missing for two days at least! She was meant to protect the two kids and the dragon eggs but she is gone off chasing a dragon in the middle of nowhere :)
The show went out of its way to tell us that Rhaena is inconsequential. She's getting the same treatment everyone actually blood related to House Velaryon gets, no screentime or character development at all. We had Baela all season and outside of being Rhaenyra's cheerleader....what do we know about her? These characters are props, only speaking when absolutely needed.
I would happily trade every scene of Rhaena and Sheepstealer for a chance to see Dreamfyre. For real her storyline has been the most boring thing, and of no consequence to the greater story. SPOILER: We won't be getting Daemon and Nettles, so I wouldn't be surprised if shes gone from season 3 only to appear at the end of season 4 to marry a Hightower.
@@phousefilmsit is the opposite actually, the actress just released a statement about her character shedding tears because she was lonely and did not want Daemon to leave since they became friends.
For Nikki and Steven and anyone wondering about why this season has less action than expected, HBO merged with WB so they needed cash for the merger so HBO cut the budget of every single one of their projects. At the same time, there was the writers strike and considering the showrunners of HOTD are American, they couldn’t rewrite the season to the way they wanted for it to actually fit the new budget. They were then forced to push events that were previously confirmed for season 2 (like a big battle that I won’t spoil the specifics of) into season 3 and stretch out some episodes because they weren’t able to fully rewrite the scripts. That is why episodes after episodes 4 have a very different pacing and that is why the season is only 8 episodes (even though they say it is for story reasons but HBO would never allow them to actually blame the studio). It is very unfortunate but I believe they did the best with the cards they were dealt.
This is a really well put summary of the real world restraints Ryan Condal and his team have had to deal with. They are trying to give us this story as GRRM wrote it, with some liberties to expand on what may not have been noted in the historical books. I am almost certain this season was written with a 10 episode arc and the final two episodes would have had that epic conclusion that we are used to. So now we will have to wait a (long) while to see it play out in the beginning of season 3. Hopefully by then, they'll have the necessary budget to pull off what the rest of this show needs.
@@CraigKosteleckyexcept they’re not lmfao the writers have inserted their own fanfic in season 2 on multiple occasions. yeah the writer’s strike had something to do with it, but george already said he wont be in the writer’s room for s3 because they’re ignoring his input and making it their own story. they dont have any respect for the source material
@@jordan_sal413 doesn’t matter, it’s not the country of operation that matters, it’s the association to which the writers and team is associated to, and the showrunners are vastly American, you can look up an article that says Condal wasn’t able to touch the script once they started filming so no rewrites (which happen consistently through filming in normal situations especially considering the budget cuts) were able to happen by the HEAD showrunner
Nikki "Did we miss an episode?" It felt like that a few times. The beginning with Almond burning the city and later when Gwayne is ready to murder Cole, seemingly now knowing about him and Alicent. I think some scenes were definitely cut out.
dont understand them aging up Alyn so much, great actor but not a good look considering he fathers 2 kids with Elaena Targaryen.... youngest daughter of Aegon III who himself is like 4 years old on the show rn
@@whatisreddin7367 Easy to understand. They don't want to show kids ending each other and having horrific things happen to them. Also adult actors are just better generally.
Tyland’s side quest is hilarious 🤣 totally feels like a moment from a role play game Goes to a place to get ships, fight a woman, got ships and women, return 🤣
alicent making aegon fear for his life for his entire existence telling him if he doesn’t take the throne rhaenyra will kiII him just for her turn around and sacrifice him and siblings
think it’s interesting that she only truly loved helaena. she turned her sons into monsters who she has no love for anymore and now wants to save her own skin and her beloved daughters. interesting stuff tbh.
It's season 8 Jaime all over again. Its not even the fact they changed the book version, they straight up ignored season 1 alicent and went with this shit
Say what you may, but you can't deny that the background score with the transitions at the end of the episode is a pure masterpiece. Take a bow Ramin Djawadi !
I dunno, I found the montage odd. Seemed more like a weird fan-made music/tribute video than an actual scene in the show. The way it kept cutting back to Alicent just walking in slow motion was goofy to me too. The music itself was a strange medley of different themes. It didn't work for me.
That woman has been losing her marbles, she has no mind of her own and now that she realizes her psychopath serial killer son is unhinged she wants to run and let Aegon die!! Great mothering Alicent! And Otto was taken by the riverlords for Lord Beesbury who Cole killed
@@gingersnaps6004 yup you're right, and even rhaenyra is no saint, she gets what she wants one way or other, and they cry about it's consequences, when his son took aeamond's eye, she didn't even look concerned or at least said sorry what his son did, she slept with whoever she liked so she's a flawed character, as far as I know from the books, in this dance of drangon timeline, daeron seems like the only sensible Targeryan to rule, he's kind, he cares about the smallfolk, he rides the she dragon tessarion, he's brave when it comes to battle, and he's just. I hope these idiots doesn't change his character from the books.
15:00 Rhaenyra knows Corlys isn't talking about her. She is thanking Corlys for still fighting for her cause after his wife dies, and at the same time thanking him for honoring her cousin, her own blood relative.
When Daemon raises his sword for Rhaenyra? and they all start cheering? The look she gives was brilliant. She played it brilliantly. It was a face of surprise and excitement.. but she didn't want to show either of those emotions. She wanted to make it come across as if she knew it the whole time. She wanted to show a strong and brave face. But you can see a bit of the happiness and excitement peak through. Such a great moment - Love it!
i liked the detail of argon wanting to be called the realms delight, as that was the people called her. he still wants the love rhaenyra received, what his father gave to her
The way Steven said it gave me the impression that he didn’t know what the God’s Eye was referring to when Helaena said that Aemond would be swallowed up by the God’s Eye. The God’s Eye is a the lake that Harrenhal sits on the Banks of. It is a round lake in the middle of Westeros with a round island in the center, like a pupil in an eye. The island is called the Isle of Faces, because it contains a grove of Weirwood trees. And each of those trees has a face carved into it.
Oh, haha, I was thinking he and Vhagar get taken out by a hurricane. One of these days I'll read the books but only when the series is completed. So probably never.
@@revylucian8289 This series is based on the book Fire and Blood and it is not part of the primary book series. It is essentially a history of the Targaryen Dynasty. Martin wrote it as if a Maester at the Citadel was writing a history book. So it’s not written like a novel, which makes it a bit harder less appealing for some people who don’t care for that style. Still, there are a lot of people who love the book, myself included. The author includes several versions of many of the events, as if he is giving the story from a variety of sources and it is up to the reader to decide what really happened. As far as reading an unfinished story, Fire and Blood is supposed to be Volume One of the Targaryen history. But unlike the novels you get the complete story of the Targaryens for the first half of their dynasty. This volume starts with Aegon the Conqueror and ends with the generation that ends the story House of the Dragon is telling. So viewers of House of the Dragon could easily read Fire and Blood once the series is complete, or read the chapters now that go up until the beginning of when the series begins. In fact, reading those early chapters would probably give a better sense of what is happening in the show by knowing the history of how they got there. Lastly, as a huge fan of the Song of Ice and Fire series, I highly recommend reading the books, even though the series is not complete. If you enjoyed the television show, then the books enhance that story 100 fold IMO. It is just such a richer and more expansive story in the books. And you can see that there are deeper themes that the author is expressing through the story that the show runners sacrificed in order to focus on the political intrigue, shock value and spectacle.🔥❤️
So. They basically made the show Aemond vs everyone… and him the only person fighting for his side legitimately and strategically. They made Allicent the worse possible person- forcing her son on the throne and standing for her banners to THEN fully contradict herself and give up her children to the sword (ehem what Otto predicted would happen via Rhaenyra - he just didn’t know his daughter would suggest it herself) They made Rhaenyra murder people and paint it as necessary for destiny or fate. To them also have her turn around and say a son for a son something that contradicts to her original thoughts on that. Idk what the heck this was, but it wasn’t it.
alicent was forced into that position herself. her sons are horrible monsters (one is a rapist one is a murderer) that were born of marital rape when she was a child herself. she’s not a horrible person for wanting to right the wrongs she did and finally be free after her entire life was decided for her at the age of 13/14
@@ranniwolves she condemned her kids to death - the same kids she RAISED, if we use your logic she should put herself to the sword for raising them, why is it their fault that their parents created them. WHAT are you on about “right her wrongs” they’re FULLY their own people now and you think straight murder is righting that wrong??? (Not to mentioned her adult decisions were still HERS when she wasn’t 13/14) Oh my lord we are doomed
It feels like when they got cut down to 8 episodes on this season instead of 10, they made absolutely no adjustments to the script and just ended the season 2 episodes early. feels like they literally just slapped episodes 9 and 10 of this season onto the beginning of next season
Doesn’t feel like it, it is like it They said that the two last episodes were to be a big battle and they cut it out of the season. That’s why the last five minutes are everyone coming into place and this « shits about to get real » vibe I understand why they cut it but after a season like this… well we needed those two last episodes
Who the hell are those people with that woman admiral? It's like they just came out of nowhere, and IMO they spent way too much time on them with that dopey mud fight, etc...
@@sasoriae5225 I know the season was cut down from 10 episodes to 8, I'm saying that it doesn't feel like they adjusted the scripts at all to compensate Did you read what I said at all or did you just steamroll me to write the same thing that I did
Re-watching it with nikki and Steve I also agree. Only if we had 2 more episodes, this season could’ve been a masterpiece 😮💨 but we got the biggest cliffhanger ugh 😅
An underrated shot of this episode was the blue queen riden by alicents son ( Daeron ) near the end. Cant wait to see that character play out next season
@@gabrielcastro2077 yes, she wants Aemond. But she also stated that she wants Aegon too .She and Daemon already had murdered Jaeherys. And then do you really think she will spare Otto and Cole? Or that Daeron will just allow his entire family to die? Alicent pretty much sentenced her entire family to death
Book Alicent (who never betrayed her blood) said in the books: “The city is yours, Princess. But you will not hold it long. The rats play when the cat is gone, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood." Rhaenyra: your sons might have had places of honor at court- but the blood of my sweet sons is on their hands. Alicent: Bastard blood, shed at war. RIP Alicent, cause of death: the showrunners turned the show into a Rhaenyra fanfic, void of logic amd nuance.
I know it’s quite a controversial inclusion of Daenerys in Daemon’s final vision, but I got straight up goosebumps and teary eyes seeing Dany and hearing her theme play. Oh the good old GoT days were so fantastic 🥹
@@kda14_ This crap is unnecessary , this is a time where there are over 15 full grown dragons , what is the significance of showing 3 baby dragons 😂😂 you people shill for these stupid mistakes it blows my mind !
You're totally right, i mean they stretched out the girl claiming the dragon sheep stealer for like 4 episodes, we saw her walking over seemingly the same area then drinking from a stream like shed been following the dragon for days, AND WE STILL NEVER SAW HER CLAIM HIM! Which is crazy, they pushed EVERYTHING to next season!
Feels like they tried to tease people about the idea of cutting nettles for rhaena and if that doesnt work they can once again retcon the story and cast nettles for s3
I think the house that built the dragon is something everyone that watches the series should see. They put movie level work into everything trying to be as practical as possible and even the visual effects are better than most movies now an days. I am so ready for all the battles we are going to get
The Harenhall arc was Daemon’s resolve; finally putting an end to his own quest for the throne, thus, serving his allegiance to the Black Queen until his epic demise.
That was such a disappointing season finale for me. No resolution to anything, all sacrificed for a cliffhanger in hopes that people will continue paying the bill for the next season...
The real failure of the series is that it was not Alicent who forgot about her grandson, but the scriptwriters, who apparently did not even read what their colleagues wrote for the previous episodes.
They butchered Alicent. She's betraying all her family, selling them out, including her beloved brother Gwayne and her kind son Daeron, who are innocent and have done nothing wrong ??? Also, she's giving Aegon's life like nothing despite the fact that he never wanted the throne to begin with and SHE puts him in this situation ? That's disgusting and vile
I don't get it all. Not every character needs to be prominently featured in the show. Characters go into the background in the book and then they come back. There's nothing wrong with that. Matt Smith is great but they didn't need to make up stuff just to give him screen time. Same with Alicent.
@@brianne3327 Could have been done a few episodes ago. And we could have done the Red Sowing in one episode, rather than having Ser Steffon's drawn out scene, then the HTTYD moment with Addam, then taking a whole episode and a half to figure out a way to get the others there.
Thing you both have to remember is during the filming of this season, Hollywood was deep into the writer's strike, then the actor's struck in solidarity. Nothing could be done as far as story was concerned on this show because the writers are situated in the United States. The UK actors on this show are not part of the US actor's strike, therefore, they continued working through the double strikes. After they all returned to work, HOTD was almost done filming, so whatever we got was due to the strikes and therefore impacted what they could and could not do on this show.
Unless you wanted this episode to be the end of the story, there was no other way to leave us which is a huge set up on the board, all pieces in place. If they got into the final battle for checkmate, it would leave us with that loathed cliffhanger and an even more agonizing wait. This finale progressed the story and goosebumps from the scene where Daemon bent the knee. That was most satisfying. Doesn’t always have to be big bloody battles with dragon fire which will be coming.
27:21 I learned very early to listen to her words. Ever since she said: "He'll have to close an eye." And now she says King Aegon will sit on a Wooden Throne! Where do we see a Wooden Throne at?
Something that I caught on during the end scene with Alicent and Rhaenyra was basically they have switched views since the beginning of season 1. Rhaenyra is no longer the one who seeks freedom, its Alicent. And Alicent is no longer the one who feels the need to follow the path laid out for her, Rhaenyra does. Though I wanted more from the last episode of the season, it did prepare us for a HUGE season 3.
To be honest, I'm glad we didn't lose any more dragons so we can enjoy all these majestic creatures in the seasons to come. I'm fine with the pace in this season. Plus, we can enjoy even more in the future, right? Yes, I always look on the bright side because this series deserves our patience. I think it will work out very well in the long run. @Nikki and Steven: welcome to our club of "The Long Wait For The Next Season" :)
Easter Egg: Hopefully everyone knows that the Children of the Forest carved faces in the Weirwood trees ages ago. The Weirwood at Harrenhal has a special face, that of the creator, George R.R. Martin... all hail! In the visions Daemon had, we see Ser Brynden Rivers, bastard son of King Aegon IV, aka Bloodraven, the man who would later become the Three-Eyed Raven and teaching Bran Stark to succeed him as the Three-Eyed Raven. After Daemon, Bloodraven also wielded Dark Sister, one of the two Valyrian steel ancestral swords of House Targaryen. There is a not-so-popular, yet interesting, theory that Daemon and Bloodraven are the same person. We will see more of Bloodraven in HBO's new upcoming series, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, but not until season 3 of that show, if they match 1 book to 1 season. That show centers around a wandering Hedge Knight, Ser Duncan the Tall, and his loyal squire, Egg. "Egg" is short for Aegon, as in Targaryen, future King Aegon Targaryen, Fourth of his name. But only Dunk, Egg, and Egg's father know Egg's true identity. You may remember in Game of Thrones, when Maester Aemon was dying he was talking to his little brother, Egg, that's this Aegon. So we will also get to see a young Maester Aemon, and I am hoping we also get to see a young Lady Olenna Tyrell. I think that's who Maester Aemon was referring to when he told Sam he had once been in love. On a side note, Ser Duncan the Tall is the grandfather of Hodor and great-grandfather of Brienne of Tarth. ✌️
Steven, I couldn't agree with you more! Wonderful episode on its own; but for a finale it left something to be desired. But I gotta say, Daemon's vision, the confrontation between Helaena and Aemond, the convo between Rhaenyra and Alicent, the confrontation with Allyn and Corlys, and on and on. So many great moments!
this season desperately needed the full 10 episodes. If we had 2 episodes coming after this we would all be so hype for shit to go down, it would end where most people expected this season to end. Instead we end on basically a trailer for another season we will get in 2 years.
Daemon's arc was well fleshed out. All I could think when he met Rhaenyra was what he said to her in Season 1, in the choking scene, "Dreams didn't make us kings. Dragons did." And now look at him. I think when Alys said Daemon will die here, it meant his old self will die here, and he will become a new person. And now my Wait begins!
@@nikitasingh0412 hmm she is helping the future of the entire realm, not just Daemon as an individual. She knows through her visions that the realm must stay united and their bloodline needs to continue until Daenerys is born. I know it is a bit complex, so I get your confusion. Simple minded ppl call everything "bad writing"
😭💔 Not the ending I expected now we have to wait like a year or two for Season 3. Great Season though 🔥 Thanks for keeping us updated @Nikki&Steven much appreciated guys 🙏🏾 some of us get confused at times 😅❤
Even after reading the books and knowing what happens (no spoilers of course) i cant wait to see how it will be made into the show. As for some spoiler lore, saying Helena spoils, watch Joffery's story to Margerie, it was told long before HotD. Thats all i will say.
THEY SHOULD NAME NEXT SEASON AS SEASON-2 PART-2 , COZ THIS SEASON DOES`NT LOOK COMPLETE. As the reason they don`t show battles in this season is due to budget issues.
Steven!!!! I said the same thing 2 episodes ago! I put it in your comments. Alys doesn’t talk or interact with people. It’s like a Sixth Sense kind of thing. I know the lord at Harrenhal talks about her but she doesn’t talk to anyone else but Daemon. I’m going to rewatch the season just to see. I’m a new member, but I’ve been watching you both since GOT. I recently rewatched GOT and then all of your videos 😂 you both make it so enjoyable and entertaining. Thank you for coming into my home and you watch all of the best shows!!!!
I actually appreciate the pacing of this season, and the content of it. If they pack too much in with new people, time jumps etc, they're rushing it- if they build up context and expand on the complexities of the politics of this time, then they're dragging it out 🫣 can't please everyone!
Dragons tend to take after their riders in the books, and Vermithor is a gruff old man like his old rider jahaerys who respects Hugh cause he stood up to him, and Silverwing is a playful lady like Alysanne, and Ulf is a dork so she probably thinks he's like a cute animal
24:10 Regarding Alys Rivers as a real person... Ser Simon explicitly mentioned how she went to Riverrun to "heal" Lord Grover Tully last episode, though she really killed him to help Daemon. She is 100% really there.
It was purely bad writting. There is no way that book Alicent or show Alicent would have done that. It's stupid, awful and infiurating ....They are trying to tell is, that the scared girl who grow up believi g Rheanyra was going to murder her kids, who was ready to take Luce's eye for hurting Aemond, who screamed to Aegon that Rhaenyra was a danger to all of them, specially to him, because he was the first son, who would have do e anything to protec tjem, would agree to orden the death of her three sons ? Because that is what that bullshit would have mean. 3 Boys, that are a challenge to the throne, so ... She would also give her their plans, so Rhaenyra's army can kill her brother and Criston ??? Makes perfect sense yeah, and all of this after Rhaenyra's husband caused the horrific assesination of her grand baby, a child of 5 or 6 years. Yeah, sounds something she would do. Absolutely jajajajajaja I have to laught or I will get really pissed. It's so bad I really feel it's disrespecful to the original story. Martin wrote a book. A great book. They were going to do an adaptation but they have ended doing a Fanfic xD. This scene destroies one of the most important characters in the story. They better fixed this shit or their show is going end far worst than GOT.
Steven's face from 11:57 picturing what Aegon's describing 🤣🤣🤣 It's about 1/100th of what every woman looked like watching the birth scenes in Season 1. 😂😂😂
Haelena kinda forgot Rhaenyra and her husband murdered her child. Aemond kinda forgot he needs more dragon riders Aegon kinda forgot it's Rhaenyra not Aemond who is his biggest enemy Alicent kinda forgot she is supposed to love her children or that it was her who made Aegon take the throne in the first place
Rhaenyra wanted Aemond' dead, not Aegon's son. Daemon alone was the one who gave the order if those hired killers couldn't find Aemond. If Aemond needs more dragon riders, then he should adopt Rhaenyra's idea. At least, Aemond still has his younger brother(Daeron) along with his dragon. Aemond tried to kill Aegon and left him in a crippled state, so Rhaenyra is the least of the latter's worries.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 Talking as if the kid's death is an "oopsie wrong one" an innocent still lost his life and wanting another one dead (who is not even the one that k*lled luke) is pure bloodlust
The Long Night, and White Walkers, and then "From my blood come the prince who was promised" "Reborn under a bleeding star, amidst salt and smoke, to wake dragons from stone, the prince who was promised shall bring the dawn" AHHHHHH the prophecy so often spoken of and seeing a version of it made my heart so happy, obviously I think it's a warped version with specifically Daemon's part in the grander story of ASOIAF, but still
We really went from “The city is yours, Princess. But you will not hold it long. The rats play when the cat is gone, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood”. To this😬
Alyss is very real. The guy over Harrenhal said she went to save Lord Tully in the last episode, but Daemon knew it meant she killed him with a spell or magic.
I loved the entire dialogue between Rhaenyra and Alicent but specially one bit, when Rhaenyra said "History will paint you a villain. A cold queen, grasping for power and then defeated". That is exactly how Alicent is depicted in the book, which is a history book written by an archmaester from the citadel, in the time of GoT. I love this, because it confirms that the book perspective is different from what actually happened, that being hypothetically what is shown in the series, a thing that always happens in history. But the show only changes a few things, mostly scenarios that happen behind closed doors and then wouldn't be known by anyone, including a future historian, which is also good, because you don't change the original work of fiction, you only add some things, balancing the different perspectives and the desire we spectators have of watching in a TV series what we enjoyed reading so much. Idk I think they really did a great job with all this.
Tyland is a good man, those who know know, those who don't will find out in time (if they follow the book) On another note the "did we miss an episode?" question is accurate af... all i thought was that or "okay... next episode"
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I gotta give Ser Simon Strong some kind of MVP, he was a delightful addition to the cast.
Oh I love him! He's been such a delightful character this season and I've really enjoyed him, especially for him putting up with Daemon's craziness.
Omg i loved him !! Episode 7 right before daemon takes ser William blackwoods head & they pan over to ser Simon & he goes “oh dear” 😂😂😂😂 he is so funny
gonna miss him
Simon Strong is Sam Tarly as a old man i swear. Both are chubby a bit bumbling and good natured and don't want to hurt anyone. 🤣
I do like how he kept it real with Daemon the whole time and never tried to poison him or anything. Not until Daemon blatantly said he would betray Rhaenyra did Simon act
Daemon just binge watched GOT in 5 minutes 😂
ahahah true
So his suffering was only 5 minutes long...instead of us fans who waited a decade to just get betrayed lol.
@@slenderfoxx3797 Yap. I prefer his way
I really like Heleana. Such a gentle and misunderstood soul. To hear a Targaryen say “I won’t burn anyone”. She understands the power and destruction that their family holds. She doesn’t think unleashing dragon fire on folks is just a battle strategy.
Her son is dead and her brothers are fighting a war. She's useless and the writing for her is extremely weird how she just doesn't give a shit about Jaehaerys anymore.
@@MrFredsttI don't think she's useless, she just never cared about any game of Thrones. I don't even think Rhaenyra would kill her at this point, but yeah the whole forgetting about Jahaerys is weird, but many Targs are depressive, gloomy, with visions and kinda numb, due to the dreams that the have (liker her, Rhaegar and Daeron son of Maekar).
@@MrFredstt And this is why they should have stuck to the book. Helaena sunk deep into depression after Jaehaerys was killed, so her not being able to help makes sense as she's not mentally fit. They didn't do this on the show and because of this it opens her up to scrutiny.
@@quintboredom How is she not useless? She does nothing other than give spoilers to the audience. That's it. That's her entire function in the show. She's a non-entity. Compared to her book counterpart where is happy and loved by the smallfolk, sits on Aegon's council and gives him advice, rides Dreamfyre, and then after B&C goes on an extremely downward spiral bc the death of her son has completely broken her mentally like it would to any normal mother. Instead on the show we get someone who has no emotions about her children, doesn't affect the story in any meaningful way, and is essentially just a worse version of season 8 Bran.
@@Virgohorrorqueen1980 Exactly. The whole point was that she COULDN'T help her brothers bc she was so distraught over her son's death. It's much more compelling than a mother that just doesn't give a shit about her children and somehow doesn't care to get justice for it. Also the book did a great job in showing just how destructive and vile killing Jaehaerys was and how that haunts and impacts all of the green characters throughout the rest of the war while the show forgets about it after a couple episodes
Aegon really did not want the throne, Alicent forced it upon him and now she paying her freedom with his life HER SON, the only son who actually cared for her and loved her and seeked her council, no wonder he is what he is if that's his family.
I felt bad when he called himself the realm's delight. He wanted so badly to be loved. Rhaenyra had two loving parents and the whole realm saw her as their delight just because. He was never loved. Only his dragon loved him and his dragon is dead ( or so he believes ). I'm not blaming Rhaenyra for having what she has. It's not her fault that Aegon was neglected but I can empathize with with him on this. Being in the golden child's shadow and having you parents screw you up so badly. It's sad.
@@Freya1412 Yes, Aegon's character is so tragic, and the way Tom Glynn-carney portrays Aegon just WOW, what a talented Actor.
@@jamien368damn thought that was Evan peters 😂
Aegon is broken beyond recognition. Helaena and her daughter might still live.
@@stefanvas6984 Aegon will always be dangerous as long as he breaths, he is the offically crowned king THE KING, Rhaenyra has to kill him to rule.
Helaena and her daughter would be war captives if Rhaenyra found out that Aegon escaped.
Also, when Corlys told Rhaenyra that he renamed the ship, I don’t think Rhaenyra thanked him because she thought he named it after her. I think she was thanking him for still doing all of this to help her even after losing Rhaenys lol.
That's how I saw it too.
likewise
Exactly
She absolutely did. It's clear that Corlys is over Rhaenyra, what he does now is for Rhaenys.
Yep
The shot of Alicent chewing her fingers, wearing blue, just brings back all these feelings, stress and fear she had as a child, I appreciate the callback.
Also, I was worried that Daemons story wasn’t going to pay off considering how slow it felt throughout the season, but now I see that he NEEDED to have his ego and worldview be broken down by the dark magic of Harrenhal. By seeing the dream of the future, the song of ice and fire, after he sees that he never really needed the crown, he now puts all of his heart into fighting for Rhaenyra.
My complaint is that they spent five episodes to build suspense for him and the decision he'd have to make, only to basically throw it away. Regardless of whether he ultimately decided to fight for himself or come around to fully serving Rhaenyra the decision would have been cool and could have made sense, but instead they remove the decision and robbed all agency from Daemon with the weird prophecy scene in this episode. None of what he saw with Alys this episode was necessary, I wish they just extended the last vision of his brother for 2 seconds longer so he could give a one-word answer to whether he still wanted the crown.
@@Vincent-gl7bshard disagree. i think with all the visions he had beforehand, everything’s so much more ambiguous like he’s still power hungry deep down but also because of these visions he has a different perspective about his desires and ambitions. The prophecy ultimately makes him realize that he needs to support rhaenyras claim but what he himself wants as a person and as his own character was already questioned beforehand with his own visions. i think it’s a great mix though they could’ve definitely made clearer what exactly contributed to his ultimate decision. sometimes it’s better to not be spoon fed every single information
@@Vincent-gl7bs disagree
@@Vincent-gl7bshard disagree
@@Vincent-gl7bs The point is that no one has any real agency, though.
After rooks rest you literally saw the switch in criston cole. It was like he flipped a switch. After witnessing what war is like when dragons are involved he literally shut down cuz he knows. They are LITERALLY marching towards their annihilation. He was never more correct about something.
That was the only scene this season where I felt some pity and compassion for him.
Yeah that shook him
I really like his character development
One of the few good scenes.
Who would have thought criston Cole would have the most introspective and correct moment in this episode. I think his reaction to dragon fight is so true to how most all of us would react. He’s not necessarily depressed, but almost accepting of his inevitable demise. In some ways he seems like the soldiers from winterfell, they know they’re going to die so they’ll fight as hard as they can
How is nobody looking for Rhaena? Do the guards not care? She has been missing for two days at least! She was meant to protect the two kids and the dragon eggs but she is gone off chasing a dragon in the middle of nowhere :)
Another big whiff for the show. Those are her brothers! Half brothers, but brother the same.
Yes she spent the episode running round, we didn’t even see the connection. What a letdown.
The show went out of its way to tell us that Rhaena is inconsequential.
She's getting the same treatment everyone actually blood related to House Velaryon gets, no screentime or character development at all. We had Baela all season and outside of being Rhaenyra's cheerleader....what do we know about her? These characters are props, only speaking when absolutely needed.
I would happily trade every scene of Rhaena and Sheepstealer for a chance to see Dreamfyre. For real her storyline has been the most boring thing, and of no consequence to the greater story.
SPOILER:
We won't be getting Daemon and Nettles, so I wouldn't be surprised if shes gone from season 3 only to appear at the end of season 4 to marry a Hightower.
Really shitty writing
Alys is absolutely real she is the one who went to "help" lord tulley
Yea Strong said it himself
She was like "shit, Daemon is still here? This is boring. Get out!"(goes to help lord Tully with poison).
We could still be seeing a “different” Alys, like the Alys that the rest of the people know is not the same as the one we see interact with Daemon.
@@phousefilmsit is the opposite actually, the actress just released a statement about her character shedding tears because she was lonely and did not want Daemon to leave since they became friends.
Why anyone thinks she's a ghost at this point baffles the fuck out of me
For Nikki and Steven and anyone wondering about why this season has less action than expected, HBO merged with WB so they needed cash for the merger so HBO cut the budget of every single one of their projects. At the same time, there was the writers strike and considering the showrunners of HOTD are American, they couldn’t rewrite the season to the way they wanted for it to actually fit the new budget. They were then forced to push events that were previously confirmed for season 2 (like a big battle that I won’t spoil the specifics of) into season 3 and stretch out some episodes because they weren’t able to fully rewrite the scripts. That is why episodes after episodes 4 have a very different pacing and that is why the season is only 8 episodes (even though they say it is for story reasons but HBO would never allow them to actually blame the studio). It is very unfortunate but I believe they did the best with the cards they were dealt.
This is a really well put summary of the real world restraints Ryan Condal and his team have had to deal with. They are trying to give us this story as GRRM wrote it, with some liberties to expand on what may not have been noted in the historical books. I am almost certain this season was written with a 10 episode arc and the final two episodes would have had that epic conclusion that we are used to. So now we will have to wait a (long) while to see it play out in the beginning of season 3. Hopefully by then, they'll have the necessary budget to pull off what the rest of this show needs.
@@CraigKosteleckyexcept they’re not lmfao the writers have inserted their own fanfic in season 2 on multiple occasions. yeah the writer’s strike had something to do with it, but george already said he wont be in the writer’s room for s3 because they’re ignoring his input and making it their own story. they dont have any respect for the source material
This makes a lot of sense. I think they managed to do the best with what they had. There was far more good than bad, for me, this season.
Except they were doing it all out of the UK where the strike didn’t affect. So there’s that
@@jordan_sal413 doesn’t matter, it’s not the country of operation that matters, it’s the association to which the writers and team is associated to, and the showrunners are vastly American, you can look up an article that says Condal wasn’t able to touch the script once they started filming so no rewrites (which happen consistently through filming in normal situations especially considering the budget cuts) were able to happen by the HEAD showrunner
We were all like Rhaena chasing Sheepstealer this entire season 😂
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Ghve Rhaena more screentime c'mon
Which is a shame because Rhaena is not supposed to be his rider. That should be Nettles. Rhaena eventually ride Morning.. lazy writers.
@@AverageArtz yes but the show is way more different then the books
@@VeritasOphanious she already has more screen time than she ever had in the books. They cant really write anything more to her
Nikki "Did we miss an episode?" It felt like that a few times. The beginning with Almond burning the city and later when Gwayne is ready to murder Cole, seemingly now knowing about him and Alicent. I think some scenes were definitely cut out.
Almond hahahah
They chopped the show from 10 episodes to 8.
Her brother always knew. I thought that was obvious.
@@officialthomasjames I was wondering if we only got 8 episodes this season due to the writer's strike, or will this be the standard going forward?
@@cluster_f1575 It was partially due to the strike, and also HBO didn't give them enough of a budget for 10 episodes.
The bastard putting his father in his place was iconic.
dont understand them aging up Alyn so much, great actor but not a good look considering he fathers 2 kids with Elaena Targaryen.... youngest daughter of Aegon III who himself is like 4 years old on the show rn
@@whatisreddin7367 Elaena Targaryen is like 40 years younger than Alyn in the book anyway so it's not a good look regardless
@@whatisreddin7367 Easy to understand. They don't want to show kids ending each other and having horrific things happen to them. Also adult actors are just better generally.
@@tommyp.7108 yeah but now it's even worse. Alyn was like 14/15 during this time. This is walder frey levels of age gap now
@@whatisreddin7367 Why not say SPOILER before leaving a comment like that? come on. Not everyone have read the books!
Tyland’s side quest is hilarious 🤣 totally feels like a moment from a role play game
Goes to a place to get ships, fight a woman, got ships and women, return 🤣
😂
That thing is not a woman!
@@supahotdezh8632 she is a woman so
@@supahotdezh8632 are you?
I don't like Sharako Lohar's actress as a person. I had a hard time seeing past PhilosophyTube. It also played like some kind of SNL skit.
Syrax is just perched there like "BOW YOU SHITTS"
BOW FOR YOUR KING!🤣😂
@@aurelie5656HAHAHAHAHAH.
syrax is useless dragon like her rider rhaenyra
@@mirceadacialorantbrescia4340true
It's giving Drogon and the Lannister army
alicent making aegon fear for his life for his entire existence telling him if he doesn’t take the throne rhaenyra will kiII him just for her turn around and sacrifice him and siblings
Yeah she's awful
think it’s interesting that she only truly loved helaena. she turned her sons into monsters who she has no love for anymore and now wants to save her own skin and her beloved daughters. interesting stuff tbh.
It's season 8 Jaime all over again. Its not even the fact they changed the book version, they straight up ignored season 1 alicent and went with this shit
@@DragonQueen78the scriptwriters are. that’s not my alicent
That's what her father told her & brainwashed her with.
One of the best parts of this episode was when Alyn told his father, Lord Corlys, how he really felt about him.
Yeah that was strong. Was hoping Corlys would embrace his kids as his own but guess he’s not going that direction.
Say what you may, but you can't deny that the background score with the transitions at the end of the episode is a pure masterpiece. Take a bow Ramin Djawadi !
That was stunningggg I was sooo happy to hear all the individual scores of each house at the end 🤩🤩
The music in this show is magnificent. Ramin Djawadi is brilliant.
I dunno, I found the montage odd. Seemed more like a weird fan-made music/tribute video than an actual scene in the show. The way it kept cutting back to Alicent just walking in slow motion was goofy to me too. The music itself was a strange medley of different themes. It didn't work for me.
Yeah. It felt like a death march
@@krissuyx There was something about this episode that felt so off, to me.
Nothing like weeks of nightmares and horrific visions to make you come to your senses 🤣 Glad Daemon came around. All those sequences paid off!
Lol alicent has finally lost it😂, she is literally ready to sacrifice her own son, after brainwashing him all his life.
That woman has been losing her marbles, she has no mind of her own and now that she realizes her psychopath serial killer son is unhinged she wants to run and let Aegon die!! Great mothering Alicent! And Otto was taken by the riverlords for Lord Beesbury who Cole killed
@@gingersnaps6004 oooh really????????
@@gingersnaps6004 yup you're right, and even rhaenyra is no saint, she gets what she wants one way or other, and they cry about it's consequences, when his son took aeamond's eye, she didn't even look concerned or at least said sorry what his son did, she slept with whoever she liked so she's a flawed character, as far as I know from the books, in this dance of drangon timeline, daeron seems like the only sensible Targeryan to rule, he's kind, he cares about the smallfolk, he rides the she dragon tessarion, he's brave when it comes to battle, and he's just. I hope these idiots doesn't change his character from the books.
Forgive Alicent, the showrunners wanted a fanfic...
Who wouldn't sacrifice Aegon and Aemond to protect Haelena and her daughter?
Did no one catch the triarchy captain/commander calling Tyland Lannister “Tywin”?? 😂😂 nice reference!
Sir Tywin? Sir Tyler? Ugh, Sharako Lohar such a troll! 🥴
Lord Tyrod was my favorite😂
15:00 Rhaenyra knows Corlys isn't talking about her. She is thanking Corlys for still fighting for her cause after his wife dies, and at the same time thanking him for honoring her cousin, her own blood relative.
The man with the birthmark on his face in Daemon’s vision is Bloodraven (the three eyed raven ) we see in game of thrones.
How many eyes…
@@LaCheeserie A thousand eyes, and one 👁️🐦⬛
I love when Nikki says “I love him/her so much”. Her voice, her tone is soooo cute. Love you guys Nikki & Steven❤😊
When Daemon raises his sword for Rhaenyra? and they all start cheering? The look she gives was brilliant. She played it brilliantly. It was a face of surprise and excitement.. but she didn't want to show either of those emotions. She wanted to make it come across as if she knew it the whole time. She wanted to show a strong and brave face. But you can see a bit of the happiness and excitement peak through. Such a great moment - Love it!
i liked the detail of argon wanting to be called the realms delight, as that was the people called her. he still wants the love rhaenyra received, what his father gave to her
The way Steven said it gave me the impression that he didn’t know what the God’s Eye was referring to when Helaena said that Aemond would be swallowed up by the God’s Eye. The God’s Eye is a the lake that Harrenhal sits on the Banks of. It is a round lake in the middle of Westeros with a round island in the center, like a pupil in an eye. The island is called the Isle of Faces, because it contains a grove of Weirwood trees. And each of those trees has a face carved into it.
Oh, haha, I was thinking he and Vhagar get taken out by a hurricane. One of these days I'll read the books but only when the series is completed. So probably never.
@@revylucian8289 This series is based on the book Fire and Blood and it is not part of the primary book series. It is essentially a history of the Targaryen Dynasty. Martin wrote it as if a Maester at the Citadel was writing a history book. So it’s not written like a novel, which makes it a bit harder less appealing for some people who don’t care for that style. Still, there are a lot of people who love the book, myself included. The author includes several versions of many of the events, as if he is giving the story from a variety of sources and it is up to the reader to decide what really happened.
As far as reading an unfinished story, Fire and Blood is supposed to be Volume One of the Targaryen history. But unlike the novels you get the complete story of the Targaryens for the first half of their dynasty. This volume starts with Aegon the Conqueror and ends with the generation that ends the story House of the Dragon is telling. So viewers of House of the Dragon could easily read Fire and Blood once the series is complete, or read the chapters now that go up until the beginning of when the series begins. In fact, reading those early chapters would probably give a better sense of what is happening in the show by knowing the history of how they got there.
Lastly, as a huge fan of the Song of Ice and Fire series, I highly recommend reading the books, even though the series is not complete. If you enjoyed the television show, then the books enhance that story 100 fold IMO. It is just such a richer and more expansive story in the books. And you can see that there are deeper themes that the author is expressing through the story that the show runners sacrificed in order to focus on the political intrigue, shock value and spectacle.🔥❤️
So. They basically made the show Aemond vs everyone… and him the only person fighting for his side legitimately and strategically. They made Allicent the worse possible person- forcing her son on the throne and standing for her banners to THEN fully contradict herself and give up her children to the sword (ehem what Otto predicted would happen via Rhaenyra - he just didn’t know his daughter would suggest it herself)
They made Rhaenyra murder people and paint it as necessary for destiny or fate. To them also have her turn around and say a son for a son something that contradicts to her original thoughts on that.
Idk what the heck this was, but it wasn’t it.
alicent was forced into that position herself. her sons are horrible monsters (one is a rapist one is a murderer) that were born of marital rape when she was a child herself. she’s not a horrible person for wanting to right the wrongs she did and finally be free after her entire life was decided for her at the age of 13/14
@@ranniwolves she condemned her kids to death - the same kids she RAISED, if we use your logic she should put herself to the sword for raising them, why is it their fault that their parents created them. WHAT are you on about “right her wrongs” they’re FULLY their own people now and you think straight murder is righting that wrong??? (Not to mentioned her adult decisions were still HERS when she wasn’t 13/14) Oh my lord we are doomed
Alys is real and has interacted with other characters.
Alys is real,but is she the alys daemond is talkin to is the question. I don’t recall anyone else ever talkin directly to her
It feels like when they got cut down to 8 episodes on this season instead of 10, they made absolutely no adjustments to the script and just ended the season 2 episodes early. feels like they literally just slapped episodes 9 and 10 of this season onto the beginning of next season
Yeah. I was surprised that this is how it ended. The tagline for this season is; "That's it?".
Exactly how it normally would go.
Doesn’t feel like it, it is like it
They said that the two last episodes were to be a big battle and they cut it out of the season. That’s why the last five minutes are everyone coming into place and this « shits about to get real » vibe
I understand why they cut it but after a season like this… well we needed those two last episodes
Who the hell are those people with that woman admiral? It's like they just came out of nowhere, and IMO they spent way too much time on them with that dopey mud fight, etc...
@@sasoriae5225 I know the season was cut down from 10 episodes to 8, I'm saying that it doesn't feel like they adjusted the scripts at all to compensate
Did you read what I said at all or did you just steamroll me to write the same thing that I did
I totally agree with you guys, phenomenal episode, but disappointing as a finale. I will still of course be seated for season 3!
I didn't like it it was boring nearly put me to sleep 💤
The last too episodes where good this was bad
@@markdove5930 No one asked
Re-watching it with nikki and Steve I also agree. Only if we had 2 more episodes, this season could’ve been a masterpiece 😮💨 but we got the biggest cliffhanger ugh 😅
Ig, I'd rather have a season 3 full of action that have a 20min fight and cliffhanger in this ep
there’s only 4 seasons so it should have 10 episodes a season
Did anyone else notice that guy who spoke to Damon (about needing a king) skulk off through the crowd as everyone cheered for her?
I was looking for him when that scene happened
Yeah he was NOT happy.
Alfred Broome is a GOAT
TRAITOR
When he heard the whisper while in the yard with Daemon, it was very telling. Trying to go behind Rhae’s back like that.
No ones talking about Tessarion flying by with Daeron riding him! It’s a blue dragon!!
where, when?
@@neghatpopal5530 towards the end when you see them marching he flys by
The Blue Queen and The Daring not yet cast.
@@LaCheeserie it’s at the end of the episode
@@joylife1957 I know. Daeron has not been casted is all I meant
Lohar: Tymund? Tyron? Tyson? Tyrone? Jonathan?
Tyland: I should have joined Team Black
An underrated shot of this episode was the blue queen riden by alicents son ( Daeron ) near the end. Cant wait to see that character play out next season
The three eyed raven hasnt been born yet so its very trippy that he popped up in the vision.
No, he is older ,
“A son for a son” the writers kinda forgot Daemon already had Helaena’s son beheaded, as did Helaena.
It was cruel of Rhaenyra to remind of this, a brutal move towards Alicent...
@@slayerr3086 He was Aegon's son, not Allicent's. Who she really wants is Aemond.
She did not want Helaena's son though, that was a mistake. Aemond is who she really wants dead.
@@gabrielcastro2077 Stop excusing bad writing. This meeting should have never logically happened in the first place.
@@gabrielcastro2077 yes, she wants Aemond. But she also stated that she wants Aegon too .She and Daemon already had murdered Jaeherys. And then do you really think she will spare Otto and Cole? Or that Daeron will just allow his entire family to die?
Alicent pretty much sentenced her entire family to death
I just binged your entire game of thrones and house of dragon videos. It's been a pleasure :)
Also watching you two (slowly) gracefully age was real sweet y'all are a cute couple lol.
Book Alicent (who never betrayed her blood) said in the books: “The city is yours, Princess. But you will not hold it long. The rats play when the cat is gone, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood."
Rhaenyra: your sons might have had places of honor at court- but the blood of my sweet sons is on their hands.
Alicent: Bastard blood, shed at war.
RIP Alicent, cause of death: the showrunners turned the show into a Rhaenyra fanfic, void of logic amd nuance.
I know it’s quite a controversial inclusion of Daenerys in Daemon’s final vision, but I got straight up goosebumps and teary eyes seeing Dany and hearing her theme play. Oh the good old GoT days were so fantastic 🥹
The reason it's so controversial is that no-one wants to be reminded by GoT and it's also completely unnecessary to the story.
@@adry3211 are you even watching the show?? Because in no way is it unnecessary to this story. If you were watching you would know that
@@adry3211?
@@kda14_ This crap is unnecessary , this is a time where there are over 15 full grown dragons , what is the significance of showing 3 baby dragons 😂😂 you people shill for these stupid mistakes it blows my mind !
@@Savage-nv6wrbecause Dany is a direct descendant of Rhaenyra and Daemon.
This episode would have been the perfect setup for an episode 9 & 10.
You're totally right, i mean they stretched out the girl claiming the dragon sheep stealer for like 4 episodes, we saw her walking over seemingly the same area then drinking from a stream like shed been following the dragon for days, AND WE STILL NEVER SAW HER CLAIM HIM! Which is crazy, they pushed EVERYTHING to next season!
We also never saw Alyn of Hull get burned while trying to claim Sheepstealer with Adam.
Feels like they tried to tease people about the idea of cutting nettles for rhaena and if that doesnt work they can once again retcon the story and cast nettles for s3
@@John_Locke_108Wasn't Alyn burned after Adam dies?
@@askyeyv7039They ain't casting Nettles. They've already cut a few characters
@@willt8848 No. Addam was with him and put the fire out.
I think the house that built the dragon is something everyone that watches the series should see. They put movie level work into everything trying to be as practical as possible and even the visual effects are better than most movies now an days. I am so ready for all the battles we are going to get
Ulf needs to have a long talk with Uncle Ben from spiderman
The Harenhall arc was Daemon’s resolve; finally putting an end to his own quest for the throne, thus, serving his allegiance to the Black Queen until his epic demise.
yeah it only took the entire season.
@@d3adpegasus Then stop watching.
@@just42daywish i would have sooner
@@d3adpegasus and yet you're still here lol
@@mischr13 so ?? lmfao people are allowed to have negative opinions of the show.
That was such a disappointing season finale for me. No resolution to anything, all sacrificed for a cliffhanger in hopes that people will continue paying the bill for the next season...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
THIS EPISODE FEELS LIKE A TRAILER FOR NEXT SEASON
Alicent simply agreed to have her son killed and turned in everyone else. She even forgot about her beheaded grandson.
lol Alicent said she cared more about what happened to Helaena that night than she cared about what happened to her grandson in episode 2.
@@liladdy42590 I didn't know she would become my most hated character.
The real failure of the series is that it was not Alicent who forgot about her grandson, but the scriptwriters, who apparently did not even read what their colleagues wrote for the previous episodes.
so did helaena the writers are doing a strange interpretation
The people making this show forgot to read the book. This is bullcrap.
They butchered Alicent.
She's betraying all her family, selling them out, including her beloved brother Gwayne and her kind son Daeron, who are innocent and have done nothing wrong ??? Also, she's giving Aegon's life like nothing despite the fact that he never wanted the throne to begin with and SHE puts him in this situation ? That's disgusting and vile
I don't get it all. Not every character needs to be prominently featured in the show. Characters go into the background in the book and then they come back. There's nothing wrong with that. Matt Smith is great but they didn't need to make up stuff just to give him screen time.
Same with Alicent.
The "God's Eye" Haelena mentions to Aemond is the huge lake near Harrenhal.
Helaena spoilers as usual, oh, these Dreamers 😂
Never count out book readers to try and ruin the show for everyone else.
@@Nightmarigny What exactly did that comment ruin or spoil?
Don't have to read the books. Just look at the map
@@Nightmarignyeveryone knows how this story ends 😂, not ruining anything, maybe read the books so you know what happens next
Man...that white walker CGI was so horrible! 😂
Yes, it was pretty bad. It looks so low-budget, not the quality you would expect from Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon.
The acting is amazing on this episode!!❤❤❤
You gotta look up a picture of the night king. Definitely wasn't him
Tyland's side quest looked like a bad SNL skit 😂😂😂
It could have been taken care of in one scene. Such a waste of time!
@@brianne3327 Could have been done a few episodes ago. And we could have done the Red Sowing in one episode, rather than having Ser Steffon's drawn out scene, then the HTTYD moment with Addam, then taking a whole episode and a half to figure out a way to get the others there.
Thing you both have to remember is during the filming of this season, Hollywood was deep into the writer's strike, then the actor's struck in solidarity. Nothing could be done as far as story was concerned on this show because the writers are situated in the United States. The UK actors on this show are not part of the US actor's strike, therefore, they continued working through the double strikes. After they all returned to work, HOTD was almost done filming, so whatever we got was due to the strikes and therefore impacted what they could and could not do on this show.
Unless you wanted this episode to be the end of the story, there was no other way to leave us which is a huge set up on the board, all pieces in place. If they got into the final battle for checkmate, it would leave us with that loathed cliffhanger and an even more agonizing wait. This finale progressed the story and goosebumps from the scene where Daemon bent the knee. That was most satisfying. Doesn’t always have to be big bloody battles with dragon fire which will be coming.
27:21 I learned very early to listen to her words. Ever since she said: "He'll have to close an eye." And now she says King Aegon will sit on a Wooden Throne! Where do we see a Wooden Throne at?
Someone said it's a reference to his wheelchair
@@lkf8799 Could be.
Something that I caught on during the end scene with Alicent and Rhaenyra was basically they have switched views since the beginning of season 1. Rhaenyra is no longer the one who seeks freedom, its Alicent. And Alicent is no longer the one who feels the need to follow the path laid out for her, Rhaenyra does. Though I wanted more from the last episode of the season, it did prepare us for a HUGE season 3.
To be honest, I'm glad we didn't lose any more dragons so we can enjoy all these majestic creatures in the seasons to come.
I'm fine with the pace in this season. Plus, we can enjoy even more in the future, right?
Yes, I always look on the bright side because this series deserves our patience. I think it will work out very well in the long run.
@Nikki and Steven: welcome to our club of "The Long Wait For The Next Season" :)
the episode is a literal 70 minute prologue(trailer) of season 3 lol.
Easter Egg: Hopefully everyone knows that the Children of the Forest carved faces in the Weirwood trees ages ago. The Weirwood at Harrenhal has a special face, that of the creator, George R.R. Martin... all hail!
In the visions Daemon had, we see Ser Brynden Rivers, bastard son of King Aegon IV, aka Bloodraven, the man who would later become the Three-Eyed Raven and teaching Bran Stark to succeed him as the Three-Eyed Raven. After Daemon, Bloodraven also wielded Dark Sister, one of the two Valyrian steel ancestral swords of House Targaryen. There is a not-so-popular, yet interesting, theory that Daemon and Bloodraven are the same person. We will see more of Bloodraven in HBO's new upcoming series, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, but not until season 3 of that show, if they match 1 book to 1 season.
That show centers around a wandering Hedge Knight, Ser Duncan the Tall, and his loyal squire, Egg. "Egg" is short for Aegon, as in Targaryen, future King Aegon Targaryen, Fourth of his name. But only Dunk, Egg, and Egg's father know Egg's true identity. You may remember in Game of Thrones, when Maester Aemon was dying he was talking to his little brother, Egg, that's this Aegon.
So we will also get to see a young Maester Aemon, and I am hoping we also get to see a young Lady Olenna Tyrell. I think that's who Maester Aemon was referring to when he told Sam he had once been in love.
On a side note, Ser Duncan the Tall is the grandfather of Hodor and great-grandfather of Brienne of Tarth.
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I always appreciate how quick you guys are with these reactions! Can’t wait to watch the next season with you two🎉
Steven, I couldn't agree with you more! Wonderful episode on its own; but for a finale it left something to be desired. But I gotta say, Daemon's vision, the confrontation between Helaena and Aemond, the convo between Rhaenyra and Alicent, the confrontation with Allyn and Corlys, and on and on. So many great moments!
i have chills during the conversation between Rhaenyra and Alicent and the final montague, wow
this season desperately needed the full 10 episodes. If we had 2 episodes coming after this we would all be so hype for shit to go down, it would end where most people expected this season to end. Instead we end on basically a trailer for another season we will get in 2 years.
Daemon's arc was well fleshed out. All I could think when he met Rhaenyra was what he said to her in Season 1, in the choking scene, "Dreams didn't make us kings. Dragons did." And now look at him.
I think when Alys said Daemon will die here, it meant his old self will die here, and he will become a new person.
And now my Wait begins!
helaena helping her son's killer 😍😍
She kinda tricked both Aemond and Daemon into their death
Yup such terrible writing
@@THEHOLYGAMERR Stay salty kiddo 😂, it’s trash writing
@@nikitasingh0412 hmm she is helping the future of the entire realm, not just Daemon as an individual. She knows through her visions that the realm must stay united and their bloodline needs to continue until Daenerys is born. I know it is a bit complex, so I get your confusion. Simple minded ppl call everything "bad writing"
"helping"
Daemon isn't getting a happy ending.
Steven was on an epic roll of saying "like" this episode. Every third word.
thanks for highlighting it
Can't believe the "biggest fight" we were anticipating was just two dudes mud wrestling.
actually it was a dude and a chick, but i can see how one could easily make that mistake.
@@penoyer79 it wasn't a mistake, the intent of the message is pretty clear lmao. anthonysilver called that woman a dude
the battle of the blockade will be in season 3 episode 1.
we just need to wait 2 years lol
Always need to push the agenda. 🙄
@@penoyer79 if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck
😭💔 Not the ending I expected now we have to wait like a year or two for Season 3.
Great Season though 🔥
Thanks for keeping us updated @Nikki&Steven much appreciated guys 🙏🏾 some of us get confused at times 😅❤
This finale could’ve been an email
Even after reading the books and knowing what happens (no spoilers of course) i cant wait to see how it will be made into the show. As for some spoiler lore, saying Helena spoils, watch Joffery's story to Margerie, it was told long before HotD. Thats all i will say.
THEY SHOULD NAME NEXT SEASON AS SEASON-2 PART-2 , COZ THIS SEASON DOES`NT LOOK COMPLETE. As the reason they don`t show battles in this season is due to budget issues.
That’s what they did to Outlander season 7 cut it in half 8 last year the rest comes in November 2024.
Steven!!!! I said the same thing 2 episodes ago! I put it in your comments. Alys doesn’t talk or interact with people. It’s like a Sixth Sense kind of thing. I know the lord at Harrenhal talks about her but she doesn’t talk to anyone else but Daemon. I’m going to rewatch the season just to see. I’m a new member, but I’ve been watching you both since GOT. I recently rewatched GOT and then all of your videos 😂 you both make it so enjoyable and entertaining. Thank you for coming into my home and you watch all of the best shows!!!!
I actually appreciate the pacing of this season, and the content of it. If they pack too much in with new people, time jumps etc, they're rushing it- if they build up context and expand on the complexities of the politics of this time, then they're dragging it out 🫣 can't please everyone!
I agree; it's better to have the show move at a snail's pace bogged by the unnecessary filler than risk another GOT.
forget the pacing, the writing sucks.
Now we have way too many events to put into 2 seasons.
Dragons tend to take after their riders in the books, and Vermithor is a gruff old man like his old rider jahaerys who respects Hugh cause he stood up to him, and Silverwing is a playful lady like Alysanne, and Ulf is a dork so she probably thinks he's like a cute animal
73 minute trailer for season 3
8 hour trailer for season 3
I wish we saw just like in books Corlys going like that on Rhaenyra 31:58 for Rhaenys death
24:10 Regarding Alys Rivers as a real person... Ser Simon explicitly mentioned how she went to Riverrun to "heal" Lord Grover Tully last episode, though she really killed him to help Daemon. She is 100% really there.
My boy Tyland gonna outlive them all
Cant wait for the finale next week. This episode was the perfect build up to an action packed finale!
“The realm’s delight”. That was personal. lol
The season was clearly planned for 10 episodes but it didn’t happen so they made 8 you can see that now let’s hope the next one is bigger
I got PTSD from the guard storming in the queen's chamber lol
It was purely bad writting. There is no way that book Alicent or show Alicent would have done that. It's stupid, awful and infiurating ....They are trying to tell is, that the scared girl who grow up believi g Rheanyra was going to murder her kids, who was ready to take Luce's eye for hurting Aemond, who screamed to Aegon that Rhaenyra was a danger to all of them, specially to him, because he was the first son, who would have do e anything to protec tjem, would agree to orden the death of her three sons ? Because that is what that bullshit would have mean. 3 Boys, that are a challenge to the throne, so ... She would also give her their plans, so Rhaenyra's army can kill her brother and Criston ??? Makes perfect sense yeah, and all of this after Rhaenyra's husband caused the horrific assesination of her grand baby, a child of 5 or 6 years. Yeah, sounds something she would do. Absolutely jajajajajaja I have to laught or I will get really pissed. It's so bad I really feel it's disrespecful to the original story. Martin wrote a book. A great book. They were going to do an adaptation but they have ended doing a Fanfic xD. This scene destroies one of the most important characters in the story. They better fixed this shit or their show is going end far worst than GOT.
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Next season better have 12 episodes at the minimum 😂😂😂
it'll be 12 episodes and 11 of them will be more talking
@@penoyer79 As well it should, game of thrones has never been an action show.
@@nararanaraiii2022 well said
@@cyber2cyke No. They are insisting on it being 4 seasons and there's not enough story unless they keep making up crap like mud wrestling matches.
@@nararanaraiii2022 At least it had good writing.
Steven's face from 11:57 picturing what Aegon's describing 🤣🤣🤣 It's about 1/100th of what every woman looked like watching the birth scenes in Season 1. 😂😂😂
Haelena kinda forgot Rhaenyra and her husband murdered her child.
Aemond kinda forgot he needs more dragon riders
Aegon kinda forgot it's Rhaenyra not Aemond who is his biggest enemy
Alicent kinda forgot she is supposed to love her children or that it was her who made Aegon take the throne in the first place
Rhaenyra wanted Aemond' dead, not Aegon's son. Daemon alone was the one who gave the order if those hired killers couldn't find Aemond. If Aemond needs more dragon riders, then he should adopt Rhaenyra's idea. At least, Aemond still has his younger brother(Daeron) along with his dragon. Aemond tried to kill Aegon and left him in a crippled state, so Rhaenyra is the least of the latter's worries.
@@s1b3r11 The show runners kinda forget to reread the book before filming
You kinda forgot that Rhaenyra wanted Aemond, not Jaeherys
@@daurydavis3983 And now she wants Aegon when has nothing to do with Luke's death. She doesn't even know wtf she wants
@@dwnkaomwn3953 Talking as if the kid's death is an "oopsie wrong one" an innocent still lost his life and wanting another one dead (who is not even the one that k*lled luke) is pure bloodlust
The Long Night, and White Walkers, and then "From my blood come the prince who was promised" "Reborn under a bleeding star, amidst salt and smoke, to wake dragons from stone, the prince who was promised shall bring the dawn" AHHHHHH the prophecy so often spoken of and seeing a version of it made my heart so happy, obviously I think it's a warped version with specifically Daemon's part in the grander story of ASOIAF, but still
The last shot of Rhaenyra reminds me of the shot through the grate when Joffrey was telling Margery how Rheanyra died in GOT
We really went from “The city is yours, Princess. But you will not hold it long. The rats play when the cat is gone, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood”. To this😬
Alyss is very real. The guy over Harrenhal said she went to save Lord Tully in the last episode, but Daemon knew it meant she killed him with a spell or magic.
I loved the entire dialogue between Rhaenyra and Alicent but specially one bit, when Rhaenyra said "History will paint you a villain. A cold queen, grasping for power and then defeated". That is exactly how Alicent is depicted in the book, which is a history book written by an archmaester from the citadel, in the time of GoT. I love this, because it confirms that the book perspective is different from what actually happened, that being hypothetically what is shown in the series, a thing that always happens in history. But the show only changes a few things, mostly scenarios that happen behind closed doors and then wouldn't be known by anyone, including a future historian, which is also good, because you don't change the original work of fiction, you only add some things, balancing the different perspectives and the desire we spectators have of watching in a TV series what we enjoyed reading so much. Idk I think they really did a great job with all this.
Tyland is a good man, those who know know, those who don't will find out in time (if they follow the book)
On another note the "did we miss an episode?" question is accurate af... all i thought was that or "okay... next episode"
I was expecting wayyyy more from the finale. This episode was amazing love the story build up but not for a finale
Haelena can see the future. She knows what happens to everyone so she has no fear to leave or doesn't care what happens to her......
It was confirmed two episodes ago by Simon that Alys is real.
The foreshadowing is amazing