HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x8 SEASON FINALE Reaction & Spoiler Discussion! | Game of Thrones
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House Of The Dragon is the prequel to Game of Thrones. The story follows the House of Targaryen 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones. Starring Paddy Considine, Matt Smith, Emma D'arcy, Rhys Ifans, Steve Toussaint and Eve Best.
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I think heleana was definitely talking to him from the balcony chills!
Alicent betraying her own family made me feel even worse for Aegon than before. Out of all of her children, he’s the one who seems to love her the most and yet here she is, perfectly ok with him dying at Rhaenyra’s hand when it’s her own fault he’s even on the throne. Aegon never wanted to be King but it was Alicent who forced him to take the crown because she feared for his life. Now she pulls a complete 180 on him just to get away from a war she forced onto him. He and his siblings deserve a better mother.
I’m 100% team black even with reading the books. But Alicent doing this to her own son that she gave birth to made me just hate her. Bro you put him on the throne and now you agree for his half - sister to take his head ? Bro be so for real. His your son stay by his side and help him fight a war that you and your father started. That’s the only writing I didn’t like at all this season.
This, and so much more. Aegon is by no means a good person, but I genuinely cannot help but completely root for him after this episode. Rhaenyra doesn’t get to say “A son for a son” as if Aegon’s 4-year-old didn’t lose his head when it wasn’t even him who killed Luke. Alicent didn’t even care to bring that up.
It feels mostly like bad writing, so I cannot help but latch onto what feels like one of the only characters to have a cohesive and consistent storyline at this point. All of Alicent’s children deserve better. All of them.
@@OneDrinight I completely agree with you. I always think to my self did everyone forget about Luke ? And Aegon’s son. Like everyone forgot ? It reminds me of Jon snow when we found out he was a targaryen and it completely led to nothing and everyone just forgot !!!
I guess u just want to gloss over the fact that her slimey pops groomed her and forced her into marrying Viserys.
She was a teenager that was forced to have kids, from awful parents.
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" is an absolutely true saying.
@@rubel3899 Yeah, I’m with you, my complaint is that it’s bad writing, really. Their conversation seemed so out of place, disjointed with the actual plot and the war that’s long been at full force BECAUSE of their deaths. Yet Rhaenyra and Alicent are somehow still talking about peace? And what was the point of Jaehaerys’ death, narratively, if everyone seemingly moved on from it and Rhaenyra’s still saying she wants “a son for a son”?
Alfryd heard the Godswood call him a "traitor". It's real quiet, but it is in the captioning, as well.
yea and Daemon looked amused after made me laugh so hard!
That is why I always have subtitles on
Who do you think it was, I think bloodraven
@@cristianbejarano2000 It probably was. He can see the past from his tree. And all the trees are connected.
@@scotthewitt258 Bloodraven is not even born yet
I was worried that Daemons story wasn’t going to pay off considering how slow it felt throughout the season, but now I see that he NEEDED to have his ego and worldview be broken down by the dark magic of Harrenhal. By seeing the dream of the future, the song of ice and fire, and after he sees that he never really needed the crown, he now puts all of his heart into fighting for Rhaenyra.
daemon was so used to getting his way through the instilling fear. which isn’t a great way of leading in the long run. he finally learned with the help of alys rivers. he kinda experienced an ego death in a way
im relly despising the Jace hate, dude is one of the few ppl thinking critically
He's throwing a hissy fit because his imaginary high horse is gone. Baella rightfully smacked some sense into him.
@@cyber2cyke yeah, just another bastard child on sides of other bastards. bro's last symbol of legimitacy is gone also
@@cyber2cyke Lmao "imagniary" said by someone who doesn't understand Westrosi laws and the show is general.
@@cyber2cykeyes he's being over the top, but rightfully so. He's not wrong about his claims being challenged, it can happen. His argument is fair. But yeah, it sucks how he's reacting to it. But it's still a fair approach.
People forget Jace is a teenager and has always been reminded by others that he is a "b*stard". Compare him to future King Joffrey... then you may see him as a saint. Perspective. 😂 🖤
He's just worried about his and his families future.
The only relief from the two year wait for season three is that we get Dunk & Egg next year!!!!!
After this not watching!
@@susanleach9106 why u watching reactions here then😂
@@susanleach9106 Figures. Those whining about this season appear to be the "no dragon action/this sucks" types, so they won't enjoy a series set during a time when no dragons are around in Westeros.
@@susanleach9106when the most interesting parts will b seen 😂😂crazy
That might spoil the ending of this 🤣🤣
Daemon made me a proud viewer when he kneeled to Rhaenyra
This was one of the best moments of the finale. Especially their I miss you nod.
That made him a btch!
That wild build up was all worth it.
Tbh I was just happy it had a decent payoff. I didn’t enjoy a lot of aspects of his character arc this episode.
Yesss
Ive seen a lot of people take for granted the fact this if movie level everything. That takes time in a world were most shows drag out stories with no actual purpose, i am thankful every scene surves purpose. The visuals, the score, and the scope of everything they put into this show is insane. The game of chess has set all its pieces
A very boring and out of time game of chess I suppose
@milanmohan7731 yet we constantly complain at movie adaptations of books because they don't get time to explain thinks the way this show is doing. This is based off 1 book if you were bored stop watching. Go to 24 episode garbage
Caraxes when the other two dragons showed up, “ Thank god you guys are here! You won’t believe the crap that’s been going on!“
24:20 "We fight for our Queen!".... next season !!! 😂
I'd rather have it next season then squeezed into this one.
biggest blue balls since season 6 of GoT
@@Kanoog What do you think the 2 episodes that HBO cut were going to be?
@@AstroAvengeryeah, this was really frustrating
@@Noone-uo2cf Indeed, half a season since ep 4 building up to the battle of the Gullet, only to make us wait 2 years for it.
After episode 4 I’d never have guessed that would be the only big dragon battle this season
Not gonna lie.
"Lord Tyrod" is a bad-ass nickname.....
😂 made my day ! thx
This show is mad 😂😂😂😂
Alicent who forced Aegon on the throne in season 1 is now serving him on a platter to Rhaenyra 😂😂
Hate everything about this 💯
@@pitoseavy4523is it shocking? Lmao I this is consistent with what she's been doing to Aegon
Alicent BEEN a terrible mother lmao
@@dimensionzone8048 are you ok ? Why would she in the books betray Aegon ? She never had a fake relationship they added in the show with her & Rhaynera or the song of ice & fire etc....all that stuff is stupid watch that be the reason all of them die
@@pitoseavy4523and here comes "THE BOOK NERDS" when literally GRRM say the show will be the real POV of Characters in Books because in the books it was only narratives of Events and views who see it and heard it but never closely or the people involved literally a Historical Book in that ASOIAF Universe.
Alicent just offered Aegon, Aemond, Daeron, Cole, her brother, and her dad on a plater and dont know why rhaenrya is saying a son for a son when daemon already killed aegons son
She doesn't care about Aegons son, she wants one of Alicent's
@@BloodDjimon614 so whats the payment for aegons son
@@allthatdough he killed both people responsible.
@@BloodDjimon614is that child not alicent 's grandson? It's like even alicent forgot about her grandson. Sorry not alicent, the stupid writers of this stupid season
@@BloodDjimon614the fact that you don't think Damon is responsible is hilarious...
Alicent sold out Aegon after she brainwashed him his entire life telling him he had to take the throne or his life would be forfeit. And Alicent was instrumental in forcing him onto the fucking throne when he never wanted it!
She is responsible for making Aegon what he is - then sacrifices him when necessary! Aegon and Aemond deserved better ngl
And Aemond, and Daeron, along with her brother, father, and Criston.
@@Aaron_Guest agreed: but we saw Alicent grabbing Aegon’s face and screaming that Rhaenyra would kill him because he’s the King’s eldest son. What’s more - we saw Rhaenyra directly saying she will kill Aegon, and Alicent fucking agreed to it. Daeron, Criston, Gwayne, and Otto are ancillary, but Alicent directly assented to Aegon’s execution after SHE put him on the throne.
Disgusting tbh. At this point book Alicent is way more righteous than show Alicent.
Not just Aegon but her entire family and also Cole. She's an idiot and the writing for her is atrocious
I find it very hard to believe that Alicent would throw Aegon under the bus like this. Bad writing.
@@Redfield982yea the show is 🗑️
The purple dragon that flew over the hightower army was daeron's (Aemond's brother)dragon ,Tessarion.
Daemon has learned that there some things bigger than he is, bigger even than dragons...
That's so stupid to me. I’m beginning to lose faith in these writers. If this were a completely original story and this is what they chose to do with it, fine. But they are ruining these characters with their modern sentiments and trying to make every single female character righteous. Literally every single one. Not one of them is truly evil, selfish, or immoral. It’s boring. Alicent sneaking off to see Rhaenyra somehow and trying to get Helaena out-I can see the political agendas in the writing. I guarantee this writer is lesbian. Nothing wrong with being lesbian, but I can feel her inserting her views into the show instead of adopting the source material.
That's just because the writers accidentally read the wrong books before doing this episode. They got confused.
Until a little girl kill the night king😂.
had daemons whole story line took ONE!!!!!! episode i would have loved it.. but this is what assholes do to earn more money.. they stretch everything out.. like when they make 2 movies out of one book just bc of money... i.e the hobbit, twilight, harry potter etc etc...
@@besratg9207 after jumping like spider-man
One of the best parts of this episode was when Alyn told his father, Lord Corlys, how he really felt about him.
It shows how strong Rheanys' character is through how kindly she treated Alyn compared to Cat's behaviour towards Jon
The last shot was a contrast of Rhaenyra, burdened with all that is to come with this war and Alicent freeing herself from the burdens of the feud.
Such a magnificent cinematography and musical scoring🔥
If Rhaenyra gets there expecting to end Aegon, and he’s not there, she’s going to think Alicent has betrayed her trust (again).
“Caraxes didn’t take any crap from anyone.”
- George R.R. Martin
Caraxes is fearless, and he is the most dangerous and Battle experienced dragon. Don’t judge a dragon by its size! 🔥🐲 You will see how dangerous Caraxes is. 🔥🐲
Experience in what? in killing sheeps? You think that is experience in battle? 🤣🤣🤣
@@keinyihernandez *Rider:** Caraxes was originally ridden by **Prince Aemon Targaryen**, the son of King Jaehaerys I Targaryen. After Aemon's death, the dragon was later claimed by **Daemon Targaryen**, Aemon's nephew, who became Caraxes' most famous rider.
- **Characteristics:** Caraxes was known for his aggressive nature and unusual intelligence. He was a large and formidable dragon, slightly smaller than Vhagar but much more agile.
### **2. Battle of the Stepstones (106 AC)**
- **Context:** The Battle of the Stepstones was part of the larger conflict known as the **War for the Stepstones**, where Prince Daemon Targaryen sought to establish a kingdom for himself in the Stepstones.
- **Role:** Caraxes played a crucial role in Daemon's victories. His fire-breathing and aerial prowess were instrumental in defeating the armies of the **Triarchy**, a coalition of three Free Cities (Lys, Myr, and Tyrosh) that sought control of the Stepstones.
- **Outcome:** With Caraxes, Daemon managed to conquer most of the Stepstones and declared himself King of the Stepstones and the Narrow Sea. The presence of Caraxes struck fear into the hearts of Daemon's enemies, making him a formidable force.
@@keinyihernandez You haven't read Fire and Blood Book 😂😂 Right? 😂😂
@@keinyihernandez Caraxes 🔥🐲
@@keinyihernandez Caraxes had a fierce and fiery temperament, both in battle and in temperament. His aggressive nature made him a terrifying opponent for any enemy
I laugh so hard my taint hurts every time Achara says "Uncle-Husband".....
Remember some of the houses of the reach don’t support the greens. And Otto had some of their lords killed for not bending the knee. That is why is had been captured
Captured by WHOM?
@@milanmohan7731 house bisbury I think...the one the maester was telling alicent about
In the early seasons (before they had money) a lot was inferred. You never saw Rob Stark win a battle. You heard about it. You saw Tyrion prepare for battle then wake up after it. The first battles we saw was the battle of black water bay and the battle at the wall. That was deep into the show.
Achara be like How Daeman and caraxes will face Aemond and Vhagar alone. Girl!!! you have no idea whats gonna happen dude you are infront of Daemon Targaryen.
NGL after this episode ended, I thought I was still one episode behind, I went back to HBO, double checked, Googled how many episodes there are. BUT this season was great over all, it's like Lord of the Rings, not each movie ended with some massive battle but on a strong note making me looking forward to more.
This season was great? Are you brain-dead? There was nothing good about this other than battle at rook's rest
It was meant to be 10 episodes but budget cuts 2 months before production began cut it down to 8. This along with the writers strike left them with only a few weeks to rework the scripts for 8 episodes.
Simon Strong my fave character this season! The biggest Rhaenyra fan and Daemon x Rhae Shipper 😭😭😭😩😩
Well, he most likely dies next season begining when Aemond takes Harrenhall.
@@mohit_bhandariidc lmao i like this version of him compared to the books.
@@tuxedomask4mascyeah hes a sweet old man. I hope he doesn't die a painful death.
I got chills when I saw the Grey beards coming South!!!
Alan is such a stoic character that even though he’s fairly calm in telling off his father it seems like he’s shouting just in comparison of his normally calm demeanor.
I just felt like I watched a 70 minute trailer for the next season😂
Ita because wb are cost cutting this was clearly a 10 episode season that's been cut down, the battle of the gullet was 1000% meant to take place this season so blane wb
Baela delivering logic and reason all over the seven kingdoms. She'd be a great Queen.
The triarchy pirate leader is originally a UA-camr turned actor and director Abigail Thorn from Philosophy Tube channel .. I immediately recognized her and confirmed it from her IMDB
As someone else commented.. this was a great trailer for season 3.
We waited 2 years for 8 episodes.. bc they’re trying to stretch this out..
What happened this season.. anything big? Memorable..outside of 1 episode with a 10 min scene of a dragon fight..
I want to like this so much more.. good acting but what characters do you love..really like are intrigued by..
It would've been great if it were a 10 episode season with 9th being the Battle of the Gullet and 10th being the fall of King's Landing.
Just imagine the ending of the 10th episode with Raenyra sitting the iron throne and all six dragons flying over KL. Also Aemond arriving at Harrenhall to find it empty and learing that KL had been sacked. Leaving him very angry.
It would've been a contrast to the finale of Season 1 where the greens had the upper hand.
Yep from such rich characters in season 1 until the finale to this only aemond and Aegon have had somewhat some development
Originally this season was meant to have 10 episodes. Seeing the final sequence, you can certainly miss these other 2, there would be the climax and the battles, now they’re allocated in the beginning of season 3.
I don’t think they gonna show only the aftermath of this, because all the pieces all now onboard. There’s this battle at the sea, the battle at Harrenhall and the “attack” in Kingslanding. And I can totally see all this happen. I’m just concerned of how much this will gonna coast to the season 3 plot this extra episodes.
@@Noone-uo2cf I have heard this but I am not sure about it, I think they are making excuses because I saw an interview where the actor who played Jace said that he came in for the table read and was surprised a certain event that was meant happen this season did not happen. This probably means that they were always planning a specific cut off not just for him but for all of characters journeys and they should have done better in the editing.
This episode feels more like an episode 3 or 5 than a season finale.
Last season ended with a big cliff hanger and whoa factor, while this ended at a great high. This is amped up for the great dance of the dragons
Can we all say we need season 3 June 2025?!? This finale was so ........................................ Thats it?
Yeah, but that’s why the show works better binging it in full, cause it’s made from a book. And also, I thought there would be a Rhaenerya x Alicent scene there at the end, in some capacity, them sharing a night together at least, but Rhaenerya is so fixed on her boring destiny, instead of living a happy life with Alicent.
Sooo, bad, boring,and illogical. Yes
it'll take time , come in 2026
@@ncard00 there could never be a happy ending with Alicent. The way she treated her children will always be on the forefront. She carried that bastard issue for decades. Which definitely did some damage to Jace. Alicent is a bully and she needs to live with all the wrong she's done to her "friend".
@@milanmohan7731 literally every episode felt like I was watching the preview for the next.😭
Are we just going to pretend that aegon son wasn't killed , aegon son died and rhaenyra son died too a son for son end
This season should need two more episodes 😒
Exactly
wonder y they cut this season down
They probably would have done 10 episodes if they didn't think they would get a 3rd season.
@@Wolfhunter5607 some budget issues
Two episodes wouldn't be enough. The whole next season is essentially the season 2 finale.
Great at setting things up in motion, but we never experienced the momentum! Was hoping for an action packed game changer!
Ok...who else other than me started singing (in their head) "The hills are alive with the sound of music" when she was running over the ground at 34:06 in? 🤣
So uh, where's Otto? looks like he is held prisoner by someone. Did Larys capture him in preparation for taking Aegon? did Daeron lock him away to keep power over Oldtown?
I think he is in a ship.
I think Mysaria captured him.
Remember some of the houses of the reach don’t support the greens. And Otto had some of their lords killed for not bending the knee
@@Ferrari948Otto was Captured by Red Kraken aka: Dalton Greyjoy and look like it was in on the way to Kingslanding .
Ah larys would make sense
46:32 What Rhaenyra says she MUST do is no different than what Daemon attempted to have done (other than the “mistake”). She’s come to the realization late in the game, or she knew all along, but she hesitated where Daemon did not because he knew time was of the essence.
When the track of the Children of the Forest started playing, I was ❤
They finally laid the path for the entire next seasons: Three Eyed Raven vs. The Winter of Dark and Doom
Goosebumps ❤
Glad Haelena played a bigger role in this episode. She's like a 3 Eyed Raven or Dreamer or whatever they call it.
She’s a Dreamer they can see fragments of a future that can be, but that’s about it only sight into the future.
Unlike the 3eyed raven who can see past, present, & future. Of all those who have lived & will live.
I dont think played a role. She serves as a wink and a nod to the audience that already knows what happens and nothing more. She's basically a non-character. She could've been more had they kept closer to her book counterpart
Her role is basically spoiling the show and doing absolutely nothing. And also giving divine guidance to the murderer of her child.
A great role indeed.
she's turned into season 8 bran, she's not even a human being anymore
She's basically useless in real life.
Rhaenyra and Aemond can destroy each other for all I know. From now on, I'm rooting for Aegon the Realms delight.
The vision of Night King would have been far more exciting if we didn't know how they were going to butcher the GOT final season. I felt excited when I saw that scene, then realized how it's actually turned out and the excitement was gone.
That's just one white walker with his dead army in his dream... Night king isn't exist in Martin's world... It's Dumber HBO showrunner who made video game type character night King - kill him n every dead army will died with him 🤡 in reality white walkers are magical species not some random creatures created by children of the forest,! They following their own religion- the great other and have greater ambitions
Abubakar Salim FUCKING KILLED IT as Alyn in his speech to Lord Corlys. As someone whose own father abandoned me and my mother I know exactly where he’s coming from. And like him I would rather “decline any offers of help” from him.
Achara is not only beautiful but her intelligence is such a breath of fresh air. Good team
Vhagar is big but she is not invincible. The book makes it clear that while she is big, she is also old, heavy and tired. They even imply Meleys could have won against Vhagar if not for Sunfyre's interference. Caraxes is ruthless and he is faster and younger. Also, Daemon has 3-4 times more experience riding than Aemond. He's been a dragonrider for 30+ years while Aemond in show canon has been riding for 6.
Actually, at the end of this season, I feel sad for every character in this except Aemond. One misunderstanding from Alicent made this all happen. I feel sad for Alicent, Rhaenyra, Daemon, and even for Aegon, because the only one who cares for him was his dragon; his own brother betrayed him. A perfect ending for season 2.
@jeevan The misunderstanding from Alicent did not cause the war, when Alicent told the green council that Viserys made Aegon his heir Otto says to everyone else in the room “Then we proceed with our plans with his blessing.”
So regardless of whether Alicent misunderstood what Viserys said Otto and most of the council were planning to have Aegon usurp the throne.
Son for a son already happen writers kinda forgot about Jaehaerys
alicent making aegon fear for his life for his entire existence telling him if he doesn’t take the throne rhaenyra will kiII him just for her turn around and sacrifice him and siblings
I can't believe I'm saying this but this show makes me miss Cersei. It's as if the writers are terrified of remotely villifying Rhaenyra or Alicent for 5 minutes without immediately forcing them to backtrack into moronic pacifists.
This is a freaking war. Where is the nastiness? The vitriol and passion to claim the throne no matter what cost. We should be long past the point of peace, yet two seasons in and they're still acting teenage girls conspiring behind their parents' backs. Enough setup, give us the damn war or piss off. No more excuses going into S3.
In real life the first one to visit the other would be imprisoned and most likely executed. It would not happen for that reason. I don't get it. It's like they are trying to give them a 21st century mentality when they were raised in a brutal medieval era.
Yes, they want to show women as angels so much that they're actually making these women characters, idiotic hypocrites
I know you have Patreon, but I can't believe you cut out the Starks and the north remembers music. I cant wait for the end of the Daemon story, that's going to be incredible.
20 minutes in I was getting worried. 40 minutes in I was getting stressed. 60 minutes in I was right 😢
about what. the story is the story. the things happen in an order that are already written.
@@mathmexican4234
terrible finale, very little moved. that lannister bullshit could've been Rhaena dragon taming.
@@Ziaotic we got two taming last episode, we had seasmoke the one before. Rhaena will probably have it first episode s3. i suppose it'd be nicer to have zero scenes of her runnin in the open doing nothing, and just one where she finds it and tames it. but i do not know the scenes they plan in the future.
I was talking about deferred action, not disappointment in general.@mathmexican4234
This was the worst season ever or the longest trailer for season 3 ever
lol did we all see Ser alfred dipping after daemon war speech ahahahahaa
Literally just commented on that lol
Damn I didn't catch that 😂 he knew he would be considered a 'turn cloak' and executed. I bet he'll turn to the greens now.
I knew people would love Rhaenyra and Daemon’s reunion
Daemon just binge watched GOT in 5 minutes 😂
Season one: let's build up to war. Season two: let's build up to war. Season three: aftermath of the war.
Daemon saw it all. Including how he died.
And it finished making him a new man.
What a pay-off for a side quest a lot of people did not like throughout the season.
Horrible storyline and ending to it... To be honest. What a wasted character.
You could have resolved that subplot in 2-3 episodes, not the entire season. They wasted so much time on everyone doing the most monotonous things possible until it was too late to actually have any payoff.
Exactly! I'm glad someone gets that.
“if it’s just one on one…” uh Daemon is a real nutjob and Aemond is just a bully.
Dude threatened him with a sword only to have his entire existence shattered by words.
(s)words
Was anybody else expecting Alys to go behind the tree and the goat to walk out?!?!?
I NEED SEASON 3 NOWWWWWWW!!!!
Won't go into details but there is a scene in Game of Thrones if anyone remember where Joffrey spoil a lot of big moments of House of the Dragon in the form of a history lesson from his perspective.
Don't like Ser Alfred being sneaky with Daemon and then slinking out when he calls for war 🤔
He knew it was over for him once Daemon called him a turncoat. He basically was pushing for treason.
You guys have to remember that they write the whole season long before they start filming, HOWEVER they had 2 MAJOR upsets after the season was written. The first was that HBO decided they only wanted to do 8 episodes to a season instead of 10. On top of that, HBO cut the budget from $25 million an episode to just $20 million for a season total of $160 million. And while that sounds like a lot, this show is making 3 films' worth of content for 1/3 of the budget. Is it any wonder they cut to the end of the battles instead of spending a lot of money showing them? Or that they spent so much time at Harrenhal, getting their money's worth out of that set they built?
The second major thing that got in their way was the Writer's Strike. Even though the British team was not on strike, Condal and Hess had to put down their pens and just stay with the show as producers/showrunners, unable to tweak the writing as they went along (the way they normally do). It was kind of out of their control, so in order to fit better into the shorter season, they had to to cut about 3 episodes' worth of content and stretch some storylines to be able to cut things off at the 8th episode. They had planned for 2 *BIG* battles this season (Rook's Rest was one of them, and I'm guessing the Battle for the Gullet was the 2nd one). The fact we only got one seems to indicate changes had to be made to fit the limitations they had this season.
On the podcast Condal said that this season (which only takes place over a few weeks, remember) has done all the character work and the players have explored every last avenue for getting out of having to go to war. There is no path left to them, so war is coming, and that is what next season will be.
The orchestra has tuned up, everyone is in place...all that's left is to start the dance.
One thing Alicent conveniently forgot to tell Rhaenyra was about the triarchy. She was in the very meeting where Aemond said Tyland needed to talk with them so she is aware they are asking for the triarchy to end the blockade of the Gullet. King's Landing is a feat Rhaenyra deserved to get for herself. To have Alicent give it to her is not just moronic, it takes again Rhaenyra's agency and triumph. Alicent also is selling out everyone she loves, not just Aegon and Aemond. Daeron, the son she was so happy to learn was kind is coming to fight for the faction she started. Her brother is also marching for their cause. Her father is in jail which I don't know how, but he is a traitor to the realm and he will have to be executed as well. He was the Hand and he crowned an usurper. She sold them all out because she couldn't handle all the hardships of a war she started.
She also wanted to protect her dear Helaena from Aemond, but she left her alone with him.
History won't paint her a villain. She reached for more than she should. She is the antagonist. Even if they try to whitewash her, the moment she put on the green dress and started to undermine Rhaenyra as the heir, she created the entire situation that now dooms them.
Wish this would have been episode 9 of this 10 episode season!
loved this season, im glad Jaby said that he enjoyed the drama, i was disappointed that a lot of people were blood thirsty for a battle. and had 0 positives about the drama. Q.Q i personally had a blast. and loved this seasonal journey with yall!~
34:56 I think those final shots emphasized how Rhaenyra and Allicent have almost completely switched mindsets at this point. Rhaenyra has adopted her father’s vision of ruling at any cost (for the sake of the prophecy), and now Allicent only wants to be free to make her own decisions. Further emphasized by all the scrolls on top of Rhaenyra, like the history is holding her down. And then the open sky above Alicent, as she’s finally ready to fly free.
I feel sad for Alicent...the only one who always did what was expected of her...and now she is the one suffering most...
I believe when Helena said she forgave Alicent,after the death of her son,I think she was talking about forgiveness for her betrayal of Aegon,not her own child
Aegon the realms Delight. He just wanna be loved , all my love to Aegon.
Disappointed, they cut out too many characters.
And instead made up pointless crap for others. What is this crap. Just do three seasons instead of four.
Last scene of this season should have been Rhaenyra on the throne with a little bit of blood dripping from a cut she got from the throne rejecting her. That would have been cool.
35:19 This kind of narrative style is so similar to the books, the 'actiony' action sometimes takes place before a chapter and the viewpoint character has to deal with the aftermath, which elevates the stakes and makes for better drama honestly
Yes! Someone understands.
There’s historical precedence for a king returning after a civil war and being embraced by the people. In the 1600s the parliament defeated the royalists in the English Civil war and executed King Charles I and the heir Charles II fled to France. But the victors were mostly Puritans and they passed draconian laws such as banning playing cards. These laws weren’t popular among most English people. After the puritan leader Cromwell died the people invited Charles II back from exile and the monarchy was restored.
Don’t you at all think that Alicent just may be lying? While she makes this talk, Larys already moved Aegon away, this could be their plan. Rhaenyra would get the starving city and all problems of its ruler and the greens would play for time and try to convert new riders from her side. They know they cannot win now in direct fight so that would make a decent plan.
I agree with this. In my opinion, Larys let the bastards leave because they are useless without dragons which they need too and he could negociate a deal with them later since their only loyalty is really to themselves. He was def waiting for them to take out Aemond. Larys is playing 3D chess.
Alicent has never done anything smart in her life. I wouldn't expect her to be smart now
@@bigjoh02 Yeah I think Larys got his own plans and everyone else is running for cover or causing chaos. I don't know if I buy Alicent's act. She's only doing this because she thinks she's on the losing side. If Aemond wasn't uncontrollable and let her be on the council, she would not have left.
Alicent doesn't know that Aegon was leaving with Larys.
The call of Tessareon was so cool. I'm confused who sounds better Tessarion or caraxes...
9:16 Apparently, if you had subtitles on it says you could hear the word, 'traitor' in this scene.
One thing I liked about it was that it felt like most of the episode was simply closing the book on the stories of this season, kind of making it a story within a story... yet used the last montage scene to just be like, "And this is going to be the focus of the next season. Bye. For now."
What stories? Most of the characters did nothing other than go around in circles or regress. One of the few characters with a semblance of an arc was Aegon
@@MrFredstt daemon changed. He completely changed and all his setup was paid off (except for him screwing his mom).
@@muhammedzayan4399 He spent the entire season having nightmares which could've wrapped up in a couple episodes
@@MrFredstt he left in ep 2, so 5 episodes of setup. Yep, it's too long. Could have been 4, could have removed him with his mother, and definitely could have added way more political scheming in the riverlands. I just thought his final payoff was great. He finally has a sense of direction.
@@MrFredsttimagine daemon changing his complete ideology just because he had couple of nightmares. That'd be stupid. You're dumb bro.
I've seen so many people complaining about this finale and the season overall but I really enjoyed both. I thought the character building and the battle lines being drawn was great storytelling. It's all been leading up to S3. My one complaint is that I would have loved seeing Rhaena claim the wild dragon. I thought Emma D'Arcy was amazing all season and especially in this episode. Now the wait for S3 begins.
Character building? They literally destroyed any character building these characters already had this season
@@milanmohan7731 Respectfully, I disagree. Imo I believe we got to experience the characters changing for better or worse based on the fact that there's going to be a war for the throne and how the whole war began. That's how I feel rn. I imagine in S3 there's going to be more twists and turns with the characters but for me some of the characters that I hated last season I now have empathy and some respect for them and characters that I liked last season are becoming people I don't like. I know a lot of people don't agree with me but I've never read the books and I just really enjoyed the storytelling.
@KelliFranklin I agree with everything you mentioned. That's how I see this season, the character developments are important to establish before the action takes place. Or else any action, death and loss mean nothing to the audience, they did a great job settling up S3.
Yes! You summed that up very well. I loved every Episode, including the Finale.
Alys Rivers is definitely GOAT this season 🔥 The haunting of Daemon was a necessary arc, slow but satisfying.
Necessary? yes but should have been like 2-3ep
Necessary? Satisfying? Bruh, you people are weird
not satisfying sorry
I totally agree! 👍
Jace isn't looking down at people. The reason he's harsh towards the dragonseeds is because he fears when his mother dies then they will just turn around and refuse to listen to him - possibly even try claiming the throne for themselves. He thinks this because he knows the rumours surrounding his own ancestry and him having a dragon was a way to show he's a legitimate Targaryen but now the Dragonseeds have bigger dragons which puts them in the same position as Jace.
Aegon and Aemond, whom everyone knows and are Rhaenyra's brothers, took the throne frok Rhaenyra. One of the major reasons the Greens felt emboldened to do this was because they have Vhagar - the largest dragon. The dragonseeds could do the same thing. What's more is the Blacks don't know anything about them - except Addam.
Jaby: “He’s getting me hyped! I can’t wait to see this!”
HBO: “Yeah, about that…”
😒😂
Totally agree with you Jabi about the comparison with the Boys, that is over exposition for needless reasons but fun scenes, this is a story, not rushed maybe better explained with more episodes, a real drama, great reaction as always.... keep rocking and stay safe!!!!
Just remember Alys told Daemon he would die at Harrenhal and according to Helaena Aemond will be swallowed up by the gods eye. The lake outside of Harrenhal
As will Daemon.
@@kathykay975 did you not read my comment lmao
@@jay-1800 Oops, missed that part. Sorry.
She doesn't want to give an eye for an eye but needs two sons for a son? WTF?🤢
this would’ve been a good follow up episode to a finale. the dialogue between the characters in this were great & the episode had good moments (rheanera & daemon, daemon with Alys rivers, halaena & aemond, aegon & larys strong, corlys & alyn of hull his bastard son). too bad all these will be overshadowed by the fact it was an underwhelming finale but a good episode nonetheless
That's Daeron and his dragon Tesserion
38:29 nah man, the thing is that all of the drama that plays out in the episodes essentially boils down to war, wether to win it or avoid it. Battles are a the culmination of such drama and also at the end determine the way forward. If you don't have a battle then you should show how you avoided it(shogun) but here we have a clear sign that there will be a battle but we still didn't see one, which shouldve been the season finale.Alslo Battle scenes are different from mindless voilence, it involves mind games, tricks, last minute saves, character confrontations etc
Alicent is the cause of the war. Even if you want to say it was her and Otto's decision to set things in motion that led to it, she sits at the top, no matter what angle you look at it from.
@kennethharbor Yeah that is why her own council clearly already had plans in place to crown Aegon without her knowledge.
The majority of reactions don't react to seeing Daeron. Thanks for putting him in the trailer and not having that be any sort of surprise. Come ooooooon "hugh voice"
Not alot of people realise the fleet commander for essos is a trans youtuber Abigail thorn, who makes content on philosophy.
It was funny when she asked what kind of man the lannister was? A philosopher?
Don't worry guys the showrunner said that season 3 will be ALL WAR, ALL THE TIME 🥁
Love your reactions and discussions ! thank you for eveything, it was a journey ! (you are a great duo also !) :)
Season 2 final episode of House of the Dragons is my favorite
Book readers laughing at Jaby thinking about only showing aftermath of the battle 😂