THE MARKS CRIED . . . AND THE WWE CAVED

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • On today's "Thursday Thrashin'", Vince Russo lays out how the WWE cow-towing to the Marks after they threw a HISSY FIT---Is NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS!!!
    Full shows with Vince Russo, Al Snow, Stevie Richards, EC3, Stevie Ray, Disco Inferno & more: / russotwc
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  • @lukebalek946
    @lukebalek946 6 місяців тому +114

    People who claim this is the best period for wrestling were clearly born after the year 2000. Old videos and DVDs don’t do the 90s justice. That era defined a generation. It was everywhere in real life. We won’t ever see that aga

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 6 місяців тому +21

      New Gen era which everyone craps on had Bret, Shawn, Undertaker, Yoko, Razor, Goldust, Nash, Lex Luger. PG Era to present hasnt come close to creating that level of star power. Yeah New Gen era had lots of bad matches and bad gimmicks but the cream at the top was still much better than anything from the past 15 years in terms of all time stars.

    • @jasonalexander7089
      @jasonalexander7089 6 місяців тому +8

      Now is the last era of wrestling. Whose gonna watch when Austin theory is the top guy?

    • @hymefly
      @hymefly 6 місяців тому +6

      Amen. Well effin said!

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +13

      Id even put WWFs New Generation over todays product

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Chaz4543Owen was awesome during New Generation...Even Jarrett was decent in 95

  • @Chaz4543
    @Chaz4543 6 місяців тому +43

    The point is If the WWE was loaded with star power they wouldnt need to bring The Rock back.

    • @robdurfee6861
      @robdurfee6861 6 місяців тому +4

      The Rock brought himself back. Ari Emmanuel has represented him forever and he’s childhood friends with Nick Khan, he politicked himself into the match not the other way round. Rock Hogan coming for you all brother

    • @99Maddux
      @99Maddux 6 місяців тому +15

      If u think cody is a star outside of the wrestling community you are a fool.

    • @dirtymoney6787
      @dirtymoney6787 6 місяців тому +11

      If u think cody is a bigger star than the rock u a true mark lol

    • @chrispyhtila5902
      @chrispyhtila5902 6 місяців тому +4

      By design: Vince McMahon refused to create new mainstream stars: only the marks know who the "stars" are. And this is what we're left with.

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 6 місяців тому +1

      @@chrispyhtila5902 I dont think he "refused." I just think he just got old and lost interest and stopped caring.

  • @_1989M_
    @_1989M_ 6 місяців тому +11

    “Daniel Bryant” bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 omg laughing so hard

  • @enougheric
    @enougheric 6 місяців тому +22

    lol vince "i don't listen to podcasts" - "Thanks for the shoutout today Dave"😂😂

  • @ecy9384
    @ecy9384 6 місяців тому +39

    The way you truly castrate the "Marks" is to give Cody the match and have Roman pin him 1-2-3 in the middle of the ring. That would bring the Cody Crybabies to an epic level of crying 😂😂😂

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 6 місяців тому +3

      Book it😅

    • @peterf08
      @peterf08 6 місяців тому +6

      5 mins squash match on first night lol

    • @adamkeller7749
      @adamkeller7749 6 місяців тому +6

      It was NEVER about Cody Rhodes' finishing his story it's about how they messed up brining in The Rock vs Roman without any explanation. How can you not get that? lol

    • @seraphimdunn
      @seraphimdunn 6 місяців тому +3

      redo the Goldberg/Lesnar squash match😂

    • @razorramon7573
      @razorramon7573 6 місяців тому +1

      @@adamkeller7749 Yeah the way they did it by Cody giving Rock permission to face Roman is what got the (s)marks all upset.
      They should've just book Rock vs Roman for Night 1 and Cody vs Roman for Night 2 to avoid all this drama. 🤦‍♂️

  • @dirty.dan.69
    @dirty.dan.69 6 місяців тому +11

    The Internet ruined wrestling.

  • @XtremeEffect
    @XtremeEffect 6 місяців тому +16

    Gen Z fans have ruined wrestling. I wanted to see Rock vs Roman

    • @nu-metalfan2654
      @nu-metalfan2654 6 місяців тому +5

      @XtremeEffect. Wrong generation mate. Very few Gen Z people are watching wrestling. Most wrestling fans today are over the age of 30 and are life long fans, so Millennials and Gen X, because not only can WWE not create new stars, they also can’t create a new audience.
      As Rock pointed out in his interview on the Pat McAfee podcast that these “Cody Crybabies” are grown adults.

    • @derrickgibson3240
      @derrickgibson3240 6 місяців тому +5

      WWE needs to stop listening to the handful of crybabies on twitter and do what's best for business, and that is Rock vs Roman.

  • @davecallaway3844
    @davecallaway3844 6 місяців тому +15

    Daniel Bryant is a mark.

  • @derrickgibson3240
    @derrickgibson3240 6 місяців тому +23

    I'm a casual fan and I wanted to see Rock vs Roman, not Cody.

    • @robdurfee6861
      @robdurfee6861 6 місяців тому +3

      You’re still gonna get Rock vs Roman, but that story will be told later

    • @gregthegroove
      @gregthegroove 6 місяців тому +9

      If you’re here…..no chance you’re a casual.

    • @veryonlineman
      @veryonlineman 6 місяців тому +5

      Casual fans don't even know who Vince Russo is

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 6 місяців тому

      ​@@veryonlinemandidn't. But after WWF/E started sucking, people wanted to find out what had happened to make RAW go from Must-See-TV to a cure for insomnia.

    • @derrickgibson3240
      @derrickgibson3240 6 місяців тому +1

      @@gregthegroove How do you figure? I can't listen to Vince Russo and be a casual fan at the same time?

  • @RecencyBiasRadio
    @RecencyBiasRadio 6 місяців тому +13

    Don’t worry, when the Marks see how boring Cody is as a Champion, they’ll turn on him 🤣

    • @81pdmatt
      @81pdmatt 6 місяців тому +1

      I actually like Cody but you are absolutely right. Last year at this time these same people wanted Sami Zayne to have Cody's spot

    • @thehmc
      @thehmc 6 місяців тому +1

      Cody has been boring af as a contender, and that hasn't smartened any of those dolts up.

  • @diluted8
    @diluted8 6 місяців тому +9

    If Vince McMahon was still in charge wwe would have had the rock vs Roman reigns.
    I liked that Vince would stubbornly march towards the finish to his booking regardless of the fans reactions, hence, HHH, John Cena, Roman Reigns

    • @romans52345-cy3tq
      @romans52345-cy3tq 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah say what you want (and there is A LOT to be said) about VKM, but he really is the last of that lineage of the old school Carny guys, who doesn't give a fuck about what the fans want doesn't give a fuck about workrate...he was just there to put on a show, put on a fake wrestling show working the crowd

  • @KnifeyBuckeye
    @KnifeyBuckeye 6 місяців тому +3

    "Daniel Bryant"🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheLedonne3
    @TheLedonne3 6 місяців тому +28

    When Cody Rhodes came on stage with Rock and Roman during the press conference, my buddies, who dont watch WWE, thought he was a ring announcer for UFC. This is what Cody Rhodes looks like to the casuals

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +11

      I found it funny when Cody Stans were saying that Zayn isnt Face of the Company material, as if Cringey Cody is much better. lol

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 6 місяців тому +4

      Lmfao😂

    • @cashmontoks
      @cashmontoks 6 місяців тому +3

      So u and ur few buddies represent all casuals 😂😂😂😂

    • @celebrategout1008
      @celebrategout1008 6 місяців тому +1

      your mother does too I think. after she's done on the street corner for the night@@cashmontoks

    • @cHriiSzbEe
      @cHriiSzbEe 6 місяців тому +5

      He does have that voice 😂

  • @thewholefnshow
    @thewholefnshow 6 місяців тому +18

    Rock shirt when he returned and faced off with Roman ended up being the highest selling shirt on the website so the outrage online not matching the sales

    • @avalond1193
      @avalond1193 6 місяців тому

      Except Cody merch also a top seller

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +1

      @@avalond1193Except Punk outsells Cody in merch

    • @cashmontoks
      @cashmontoks 6 місяців тому +1

      That’s a lie. Cody has the highest ceiling merch. Stop with the fake news

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@cashmontoksToo bad reality vehemently disagrees with you
      Punk is outselling Cringey Cody

    • @rosscleary9110
      @rosscleary9110 6 місяців тому

      @@Nostalgia9478 No one cares about CM Drunk.

  • @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin
    @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin 6 місяців тому +9

    WWE marks gave me a new found contempt for hardcore wrestling fans I never knew I had.

  • @cl-vision5029
    @cl-vision5029 6 місяців тому +10

    It's not that they thing wrestling is real they think wrestling belongs to them

  • @alsands4611
    @alsands4611 6 місяців тому +5

    Completely agree with the title of this video.

  • @romans52345-cy3tq
    @romans52345-cy3tq 6 місяців тому +3

    The Casual Wrestling fan is your most important fan

  • @thewholefnshow
    @thewholefnshow 6 місяців тому +10

    I don’t think anyone who complains is necessarily in belief wrestling is real. You see many UA-camrs complain about movies, tv shows, cartoons. It’s just the norm for this younger generation to put more energy into voicing what they dislike than they do the things they do like. Negativity brings in more clicks unfortunately

  • @Nostalgia9478
    @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +26

    Marks cant accept the reality that Cody isnt Face of WWE material..Hes a MID talent
    Whoever beats Roman for the title should be the next Megastar..Itll be a waste if they let Cody beat Roman because Codys title run would inevitably be a flop

    • @richardalpert2010
      @richardalpert2010 6 місяців тому

      Cody Rhodes has the potential to be the next John Cena.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +12

      @@richardalpert2010 Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you
      Cringey Cody has a mediocre look, is average in the ring, and is pure CRINGE on the mic. Zero charisma
      Hes Jeff Jarrett 2.0. An overpushed MID talent

    • @rosscleary9110
      @rosscleary9110 6 місяців тому +2

      You say this as if The Rock going over Reigns at Mania has any meaning whatsoever.
      The Rocks wins. And then what?

    • @rosscleary9110
      @rosscleary9110 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Nostalgia9478 You smarks literally said the same thing about Daniel Bryan. Nobody but a few contrarians and Guardians of The Galaxy fans wanted to see Orton vs Batista.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому

      @@rosscleary9110 Actually I litreally never said that about Bryan
      Bryan is/was at least a great in ring performer, and hes actually a MUCH better promo than Cringey Cody
      Bryan isnt a huge draw, but hes not a MID talent like Cringey Cody

  • @djbarbergreen3388
    @djbarbergreen3388 6 місяців тому +8

    There are 3 generations that are aware of the Rock my Grandson loves Black Adam, his friends too. and didn't know he was a wrestler. Gaming is the new medium for kids not wrestling if a well known personality in character appears on fortnite its instant recognition and broken internet . If Cody appeared on fortnight they wouldn't know him...we all knew hogan and Andre in the UK before they started screening WWF In the 80s . STAR POWER

  • @craigshannon6011
    @craigshannon6011 6 місяців тому +5

    Its a bad precedent if the WWE lets the embarrassing crybaby fans book all the matches from now on.
    The Rock is a bigger name and would have been better for business having the Rock vs Reigns a dream match we've never had and probably never will now, We already got Cody vs Reigns last year and plenty of time for rematches later.
    This is the most embarrassed I've ever felt to be a wrestling fan.

  • @eamonnmaccionnaith5761
    @eamonnmaccionnaith5761 6 місяців тому +5

    Nobody thinks it's real. What is he talking about? Fans were annoyed with the direction that they took with the storyline. That doesn't mean they think it's real. It's no different than people being annoyed with the ending of The Sopranos.

    • @georgealvarez1195
      @georgealvarez1195 6 місяців тому +2

      Did the fans complain about the ending of sopranos in the middle of the season? Yall are half way through the movie complaining about the ending.

    • @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin
      @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin 6 місяців тому +1

      You guys do think it’s real. You’re complaining about predetermined matches.

    • @eamonnmaccionnaith5761
      @eamonnmaccionnaith5761 6 місяців тому +1

      @@georgealvarez1195 There's been plenty of TV shows in which fans have tuned out mid season. This is no different.

    • @rosscleary9110
      @rosscleary9110 6 місяців тому

      @@georgealvarez1195 Loads of people stopped watching The Walking Dead. Maybe you're new to analogies?

    • @adamkeller7749
      @adamkeller7749 6 місяців тому

      @@georgealvarez1195 Another sheep that does not get it. TV shows have seasons and they have been written, produced and recorded ahead before being aired on TV so even if fans complain they can't do anything about it. However the producers take notice and adapt in the next seasons unless it's the last obviously.

  • @James-if3kc
    @James-if3kc 6 місяців тому +2

    Here's Vince Russo's audience in a nutshell:
    "We watch wrestling and think and talk about wrestling 24/7, but we only want wrestling to appeal to casual fans who don't give a shit about most of the things that we watch and talk about."
    You guys are seriously baffling.

    • @Mockracy
      @Mockracy 5 місяців тому +1

      The fan base has become way too markish…

    • @James-if3kc
      @James-if3kc 5 місяців тому

      Yep.

  • @josevillarreal5955
    @josevillarreal5955 6 місяців тому +2

    I can't even imagine the nerdy uproar if WWE has Reigns beat Cody 😂😂😂
    We'd be flooded by the tears of the marks

  • @togborne
    @togborne 6 місяців тому +4

    I don’t get the appeal of Cody Rhodes - what am I missing?

  • @Electrifying316HBK
    @Electrifying316HBK 6 місяців тому +3

    10 years ago a megastar returned to give us one last run and he was rejected by marks. Now history is repeating itself. I really like Cody, but Rock vs Roman is a dream match we've been begging for since the moment Rock raised Roman's hand at the Royal Rumble. Everyone wanted to see that feud and now when we're getting it we don't like it anymore. Just to be clear, I would have been ok with Cody vs Roman at Wrestlemania and saving Roman vs Rock for Summerslam, but the way everyone turned on The Rock over night is disgusting.

  • @dkmenace1990
    @dkmenace1990 6 місяців тому +6

    Monday Night Football kicked Cody and Seth's butts. Roman Reigns and the Bloodline were more better than those crybabies

  • @andrewbest1449
    @andrewbest1449 6 місяців тому +5

    I guess ‘marks’ don’t deserve any consideration.

  • @razorramon7573
    @razorramon7573 6 місяців тому +2

    Everything Vince said on here was straight FACTS!!!

  • @cl-vision5029
    @cl-vision5029 6 місяців тому +7

    They just going to draw the die hard marks i know people that don't even watch wrestling on the regular and wanted to see the rock vs Roman now they don't care

    • @robdurfee6861
      @robdurfee6861 6 місяців тому

      Yea and after the match they would’ve went back to not caring again. Thats the problem, catering to the casual for one match when your viewers that watch weekly and are the ones who go to the live shows and buy the merch all want Cody. They bring in more money yearly than what casuals will for one match on a weekend in April

  • @Ty_Ranus
    @Ty_Ranus 6 місяців тому +4

    A Roman squash, please let it happen.

  • @david29497
    @david29497 6 місяців тому +3

    Cody aint Dusty. He's not even Dustin. He's number 3 and number 3 aint face of the company/business caliber.

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 6 місяців тому +1

      He's more David Flair than Randy Orton.

    • @Mockracy
      @Mockracy 5 місяців тому +1

      @@danielburger1775 brutal comments, damn

  • @Flagg1991
    @Flagg1991 6 місяців тому +2

    I agree with you about The Rick being better for business, but the fact that WWE needs to bring back a guy from 30 years ago to pop a number is a huge problem. They need to build new stars instead of relying on old guys. That would be like you bringing in Bruno and Bob Orton in 1998.

  • @mechaman7818
    @mechaman7818 6 місяців тому +8

    29:32 "Let's give in to the marks."
    This is a problem with every entertainment industry right now, man. The vocal minority getting stuff made that nobody reads/watches while the rest of us sit here with our hands in the air just wondering like, "Are you ever gonna make good shows again?"

  • @MichaelSpikes-pv6kl
    @MichaelSpikes-pv6kl 6 місяців тому +2

    Amazing show

  • @mattyadel9302
    @mattyadel9302 6 місяців тому +1

    Come on Vince i love the Levity in Codys Candor.😂

  • @truthtransistorradio6716
    @truthtransistorradio6716 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if the match flipped again on Smackdown tomorrow. The story line is a power struggle between HHH and the Rock. I think Smackdown could end where it is Roman vs the Rock once again.

  • @christophercolbec8550
    @christophercolbec8550 6 місяців тому +4

    We honestly need a bro counter every episode

    • @brandyl2183
      @brandyl2183 6 місяців тому

      You would think he would have more listeners if he let that crap go.

  • @memig9984
    @memig9984 6 місяців тому +1

    The way Vince is cutting ass is killing me😂😂

  • @99Maddux
    @99Maddux 6 місяців тому +4

    Cody cry babies

  • @dkingofbuccaneers9079
    @dkingofbuccaneers9079 6 місяців тому +1

    CM PUNK INJURY CHANGED THE GAME AND WWE CALLED A AUDIBLE

  • @alexanderson618
    @alexanderson618 6 місяців тому +2

    Iwc is the worst thing to happen to wrestling!!!

  • @-KillaWatt-
    @-KillaWatt- 6 місяців тому +8

    Bro count: 151

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks bro

    • @kingslayer2999
      @kingslayer2999 6 місяців тому +3

      So that's 151 Shots I have to drink 💀🪦

    • @-KillaWatt-
      @-KillaWatt- 6 місяців тому

      ​He said bro like 73 times within the first 15min lol​@@kingslayer2999

  • @Syfcobra8549
    @Syfcobra8549 6 місяців тому +3

    Every time WWE lisents to the marks it turn to be a disaster
    Cm Punk, Daniel Bryan,Becky Lynch, Kofi Kingston, Seth Rollins and now Cody would be the same
    Just a "oh he finally did it!" moment that will end in a boring feud against an actual star

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 6 місяців тому

      Don't forget Benoit in 2004.
      While people obviously think of Benoit for the murders, he was a mark favorite, but boring to the majority of fans.

  • @TheGreatestBabyFace
    @TheGreatestBabyFace 6 місяців тому +4

    The Rock can’t cut a promo unless Brian Giwirtz is by his side. 😂😂😂

    • @BrandonTheGamer1996
      @BrandonTheGamer1996 6 місяців тому +5

      No

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +8

      Cringey Cody cant cut a decent promo PERIOD

    • @TheGreatestBabyFace
      @TheGreatestBabyFace 6 місяців тому

      @@Nostalgia9478 It’s the best part of Raw.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +5

      @@TheGreatestBabyFace Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you
      Cody is pure CRINGE on the mic. Hea an overpushed MID talent
      Jeff Jarrett 2.0

    • @TheGreatestBabyFace
      @TheGreatestBabyFace 6 місяців тому

      @@Nostalgia9478 Nah, reality is Rock is washed and he’s one dimensional. Without his “fruity pebbles” “Kung pow chicken” schtick promos. He’s only back because Black Adam flopped and now after 5 years he wants to fight Roman. His little nostalgia act does nothing for anyone anymore

  • @gdjones6325
    @gdjones6325 6 місяців тому +1

    Two billionaires telling us to send our money.. Why don't they send their money! 😂😂

  • @thewholefnshow
    @thewholefnshow 6 місяців тому +1

    The office analogy is perfect.

  • @GLPitt1
    @GLPitt1 6 місяців тому +4

    Daniel Bryant Bro!

    • @_1989M_
      @_1989M_ 6 місяців тому

      SO funny bro lmao oh my gawd

  • @arcmov24
    @arcmov24 6 місяців тому +1

    Vince is telling the truth

  • @nu-metalfan2654
    @nu-metalfan2654 6 місяців тому +4

    All this chaos started because Hunter wanted to book Cody vs Roman at Mania 40, but Rock has more free time and wanted to do the match with Roman at Mania 40 which WWE have asked Rock to do the match with Roman for the past 10 years, but Rock couldn’t because he was too busy, but now he has more free time he was willing to do the match this year.
    But Hunter and WWE are like nah we’re not interested anymore and want to do Cody vs Roman, yet WWE have constantly asked Rock to do the match with Roman for the past 10 years, and now Rock has more free time he was willing to the match this year.
    And apparently Rock and Hunter had a conversation where Hunter said to Rock to listen to the marks basically, and Rock then agreed after Hunter persuaded him to then give Cody the match which is what Hunter wanted to book.
    Because that’s Hunter now in a nutshell, Hunter is just a more disciplined Tony Khan. Hunter and Tony Khan both want to book to what the marks want.

    • @cashmontoks
      @cashmontoks 6 місяців тому +2

      Wrong? Rock has always been busy. He just declared himself free about 3 months ago. U can’t just change all plans like that. It’s illogical and u clowns don’t get it.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@cashmontoksCalm down, Cody Crybaby. lol

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому

      Well said

    • @nu-metalfan2654
      @nu-metalfan2654 6 місяців тому +3

      @@cashmontoks Yes and at Day 1 Raw he teased the match vs Reigns and it got a big reaction. BEFORE CODY WON THE RUMBLE

  • @Nostalgia9478
    @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +4

    MJF will cost Cody his match vs Roman at Wm 40
    Roman retains
    Its gonna be a tough night for the Cody Crybabies 😢

    • @aaronneville1164
      @aaronneville1164 6 місяців тому

      Roman retains yes, BUT it won't be MJF that costs Cody ....... it'll be Seth Rollins.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому

      @@aaronneville1164 possible

  • @southerndandy4910
    @southerndandy4910 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro, Kobe’s brother Daniel Bryant Bro

  • @andreabisozzi2520
    @andreabisozzi2520 6 місяців тому +1

    Vince......what I want to know is: when Cody will finally finish his "story" what will happen?
    He will retire forever?
    He will go back to AEW?
    Is this thing that he must finish his story that I cannot understand.

  • @dk9695
    @dk9695 6 місяців тому +2

    22:49 dave meltzer put vince russo over? when? where?

  • @richardalpert2010
    @richardalpert2010 4 місяці тому

    I like it that WWE is catering to people like me.

  • @tripperjoe1699
    @tripperjoe1699 6 місяців тому +5

    Daniel Brian was the final nail in the coffin. It getting worse since 2008, but after the yes movement, they quickly went down the toilet

    • @82automan
      @82automan 6 місяців тому

      Yep that is when I stopped caring and stopped watching. Hard to believe it has been over 10 years, but time goes by really quick. Maybe Endeavor can get some people in charge that are that can win people like me back, but I am not loosing any sleep over it.

  • @T85204
    @T85204 6 місяців тому +1

    Which is why I don't believe TKO/Endeavor will fire Triple H because that will create severe fan back
    lash as well and with TKO/Endeavor already showing that they will cave to the fans, H is here for the long haul.

  • @thehoukster
    @thehoukster 6 місяців тому +2

    When Rock came out on Raw and said he should sit at the Head of fhe Table, I popped huge. Very excited. When Rock came out on Smackdown as Cody's replacement at Wrestlemania, I absolutely hated it.
    Why? Because I'm a mark? No. Because I'm a Cody Crybaby? No. I hated it because it was executed in a terrible way. You are going to say you LIKED that segment? Of course you aren't. Because it was an awkward, terrible way to present something to the people if you actually wanted them to like it and want it. Period.

  • @kevinomar011
    @kevinomar011 6 місяців тому

    The ratings actually went up when Daniel Bryant was on top

  • @V1LL1N
    @V1LL1N 6 місяців тому +1

    This was a good one!

  • @theantone7476
    @theantone7476 6 місяців тому +3

    My respect for WWE has massively plummeted because they changed their minds and caved in. Rock and Roman is a much bigger draw. I think after WM 40 Im done with WWE and just stick to TNA

    • @cashmontoks
      @cashmontoks 6 місяців тому

      Bro u are a clown. It’s not about rock and Roman. Rock and Roman have no story and no build. U are a dumbass if u think it’s normal to have a world title fight at mania with no build 😂😂😂. U so called casuals are morons. Cody had a story and the fans both online and venue fans have booed rock and cheered Cody. Rock is not as beloved as he once was. Quit living in 2000. Rock has a lot of heat due to how he handled the dc universe, black Adam and Oprah

  • @MindandSorcery
    @MindandSorcery 6 місяців тому +1

    He calls them neckbeard and whatever but its the majority of people who didn't want Rock to steal Cody's spot.
    Give people what they want, thats best for business.
    Russo is out of touch on this one...bro

  • @christian6455
    @christian6455 5 місяців тому

    8:45 😂😂

  • @togborne
    @togborne 6 місяців тому +1

    Caving into the same people that were giving death threats to The Rock’s daughter? 😮

  • @calvinlukas9
    @calvinlukas9 6 місяців тому +1

    What I don’t understand is why they aren’t capitalizing on having two WrestleManias now. Let Rock beat Roman for the head of the table the first night, then have Cody win the belt the second night. It’s not brain surgery.

  • @shortymccutlery8919
    @shortymccutlery8919 6 місяців тому

    I grew up watching the attitude era and monday night wars, the mid card guys back then had more personality than today's main event wrestlers like Cody and Rollins.

  • @cliffbot638
    @cliffbot638 6 місяців тому +1

    Is it possible for WWE to go TV14?

  • @thewholefnshow
    @thewholefnshow 6 місяців тому +4

    Roman vs rock made more sense. Roman is so close to beating hogans record and nobody will come close for quite some time. To have have loss right before beating the record is stupid. Could have protected Cody by having him beat Seth while having Roman beat rock in what is most likely his last in ring match and break hogans record

  • @DavieBhoy187
    @DavieBhoy187 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m a wrestling fan, have been for over 30 years so I don’t believe its real much like I don’t believe movies and TV shows are real (despite the fact that some say based on a true story) however I do invest time into watching. If I invest 2 years into a story then I want it paid off in a satisfying way, that would be with Cody finishing his story. If you take a movie trilogy where the hero of the story gets to the final act of the 3rd film and doesn’t win you would be pretty pissed off about it, the whole point of any story is to see the hero win, and I fucking love the rock I have since he first joined the nation but this is the one instance I wouldn’t want to see him step in and basically steal the ending to someone else story. Again I am well aware the fights are predetermined or fake as you like to call them but my time and the time of millions of others is very real.

    • @brandyl2183
      @brandyl2183 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Why is Russo oblivious to this fact?

    • @DavieBhoy187
      @DavieBhoy187 6 місяців тому

      I have no idea he tends to overlook certain things but I do still enjoy his take on wrestling @@brandyl2183

  • @chrisferrand2679
    @chrisferrand2679 6 місяців тому

    Wonder what he thinks of Bryant Danielson as a wressuhler. Lol

  • @Cheappop212
    @Cheappop212 6 місяців тому +1

    Would we classify anyone who goes to live events as marks?

    • @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin
      @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin 6 місяців тому

      Marks are those who think it’s real, simp for female wrestlers, and listen to Jim Cornette’s podcast because he is of course, the Grand Cyclops of all these WWE marks. They bury every other wrestling company and cape for WWE.

  • @lindenstromberg6859
    @lindenstromberg6859 6 місяців тому

    I think this is a version of the story they were planning the whole time - Russo, as a writer, should understand this too. And the idea that all those people who want to see Cody are marks who think it's because they think it's real is kind of laughable. They're still marks, just not for what you think - they believe (basically what Russo is saying) that there's a battle going on in the writing room. But the WWE are not stupid enough to not understand controversy = cash. Plus, creative writing 101 class 1: "Show them what they want, and then don't let them have it" - just with The Rock and without Brock or CM Punk involved.

  • @user-gm7ms4xv5f
    @user-gm7ms4xv5f 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro I bet after all this crap, all this back and forth, demands and all this, Cody Rhodes will lose again to roman reings.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому +2

      Thatd be best 4 business, Bro

    • @user-gm7ms4xv5f
      @user-gm7ms4xv5f 6 місяців тому

      @@Nostalgia9478 that be messed up, playing with a grown man (Cody Rhodes) like if he was a little boy, sad part is that he (Cody Rhodes) is letting that company use him like a puppet and he just taking it like a dumbass.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 6 місяців тому

      @@user-gm7ms4xv5f Calm down. Hes getting paid millions. He'll be fine. lol

  • @TheSwordofTruth412
    @TheSwordofTruth412 6 місяців тому +2

    Vince we're living in different times you can't base it on ratings anymore. The rating system isn't what it was 20-30 years ago. Nothing is must see TV anymore.

  • @solomonaharris1807
    @solomonaharris1807 6 місяців тому

    26:00 😂

  • @romans52345-cy3tq
    @romans52345-cy3tq 6 місяців тому +1

    Jim Cornette believes southern NWA wrestling is real

  • @Simouno
    @Simouno 6 місяців тому +4

    "Listening to the fans" is a terrible business practice since wrestling fans are the most fickle and business illiterate in the world. Look at how listening to the fans worked out for AEW in the last year And a half. Triple H is the biggest problem with WWE right now and the weak link they have to remove to start giving us compelling tv and storylines again

    • @avalond1193
      @avalond1193 6 місяців тому

      Don't listen to the audience that supports the product? That's what's been happening and franchises are in the toilet as a result

  • @82automan
    @82automan 6 місяців тому

    I agree with Vince on The Rock being in the main event. I was interested in see him at the top of ticket one more time. However, not against Roman. The guy is a charisma vacuum that made me stop watching WWE a few years ago, because the company stubbornly kept pushing him and I think that is the root of the problem. WWE's last two main guys Cena and Roman have driven away people away instead of bring in the casuals. You can argue with me all you want but the trend in ratings for RAW for the last 15 years and the view of Pro wrestling by the public says otherwise.
    Everything else about the IWC being a cult that is out of touch with everybody else is spot on.

  • @thekingofkingsrp
    @thekingofkingsrp 6 місяців тому

    Your telling me if the rock wanted it that bad, he couldn't have came in at 30 in the rumble spend 5 minutes threw out CM punk and then none of this ever happens....

  • @jaymask7446
    @jaymask7446 6 місяців тому

    Here was an issue when The Rock did his where should I sit promo the crowd went crazy. At the time rumor I heard he had signed to wrestle yet. That would make sense for why Cody won the Rumble. See if they wanted Rock vs Roman and his deal should have been signed a few weeks before the Rumble. You have anyone else than win the Rumble. That guy faces Seth at Mania, and that clears the path for The Rock Roman at Mania.

  • @WillGettling
    @WillGettling 6 місяців тому

    Vince, you missed a key point here. CM Punk got hurt or none of this would have been an issue.

  • @godphoenix66x
    @godphoenix66x 6 місяців тому +3

    I guess there are more "Marks" than losers who wanted a 5 minute Rock vs Reigns match 😊

  • @sssarzzz
    @sssarzzz 6 місяців тому

    I got to the " why did the ratings went down." 10:55 and that was it...all i can think is Cornette talking about he is a writer who doesn't know how to write/grammer.

  • @zachary_attackery
    @zachary_attackery 6 місяців тому +11

    Nash was right, the business died when Benoit and Guerrero became world heavyweight champions. That was the start of all this crap. It's like when Nirvana came out and from then on, there were no more "rock stars", just boring bands with guys that look like they work at a gas station. Now we have a wrestling industry full of guys that you wouldn't notice walking through an airport.

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 6 місяців тому +7

      I think Benoit and Guerrero still had some credibility with the casuals. Eddie had lots of charisma and personailty and Benoit while short looked very stout and powerful. Id say it died when Danielson and Punk became champs and top guys. Those 2 are the antithesis of everything that VKM and the WWE built.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 6 місяців тому +4

      @@Chaz4543 Benoit and Eddie were stacked and look like they could beat the crap out of somebody in comparison to Daniel Bryan and Cody Rhodes with their twiglet arms

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MrJonnyl123 Cody has nothing to offer other than "Im a son of a famous wrestler." Hows he any better than Curt Henning and Ted Dibiase's sons ?

    • @TheGreatestBabyFace
      @TheGreatestBabyFace 6 місяців тому

      @@MrJonnyl123Where are Eddie and Chris now? No one cares about what a wrestler looks like anymore. They want good stories and good matches

    • @ValRhapsody
      @ValRhapsody 6 місяців тому +3

      Facts! I remember I saw cm punk and aj lee sitting at a colectivo coffee shop in Milwaukee. Nobody was paying attention to them and they blended in with all the normal ppl. No way Michael Jordan or The Rock can ever do that

  • @dkingofbuccaneers9079
    @dkingofbuccaneers9079 6 місяців тому

    Cody was not suppose to win the rumble it was suppose to be CM Punk winning the Rumble

  • @raysinclair9980
    @raysinclair9980 6 місяців тому +8

    A very bad take. Having the Rock replace Cody would destroy the credibility of the Royal Rumble match.

    • @dkmenace1990
      @dkmenace1990 6 місяців тому +4

      Having Bayley The Jobber win did that already

    • @TheGreatestBabyFace
      @TheGreatestBabyFace 6 місяців тому +1

      @@dkmenace1990She’s in the 2nd most hottest angle on SD. She turn babyface and now the crowd is behind her

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 6 місяців тому

      Royal rumble winner doesn’t always wrestle for the championship. Austin ended up wrestling bret hart in 97 instead of sid

    • @dkmenace1990
      @dkmenace1990 6 місяців тому

      @Justwatchitallburn lower midcard match since Bayley hasnt drawn a dime in years and no one cares about Iyo's title reign. Especially if they pair Bianca and Jade vs the Lazy Warriors for the women tag belts.

    • @robdurfee6861
      @robdurfee6861 6 місяців тому

      @@dkmenace1990Jade isn’t wrestling anytime soon bud, she’s still too green. They already pulled her from Elimination Chamber

  • @TerryKeefeMedia
    @TerryKeefeMedia 6 місяців тому

    Any idea what percentage of the WWE audience the "Marks" are? I don't know that answer, but the danger is that if they do lose the Marks, which Vince says is impossible, the Casual Fans are just that. The Casual Fans have been a huge boost during the biggest eras of wrestling, but they don't stick around forever. They got bored as the Attitude Era dragged on and slowly dropped off. They were there for Mr. T and Rock and Wrestling in 1985, but they were disappearing by the end of the 80s. I have a feeling TKO intends to have eternal celebrity cross-overs but the McMahons learned that got old eventually and stopped drawing as well. There were exceptions, of course, such as with Mike Tyson. But I remember Jay Leno, and Dennis Rodman, in matches in WCW and the celebrity involvement all just feeling so bloated and stale and lame. David Arquette was a B-list star who won the WCW championship and it seemed to stall his career and WCW all at the same time. Anyway, great show as usual, Vince.

  • @Blackrain7920
    @Blackrain7920 6 місяців тому

    Black Atom flopped cause it had alot masculinity in it and Hollywood doesn't like that

  • @thehmc
    @thehmc 6 місяців тому

    Daniel Bryan is a terrible example because Byran was only champion for a few weeks before he had to leave due to injury. And he was definitely more over than Cena or Batista or Blandy Snoreton. Cody isn't over for sh*t.

  • @thekingofkingsrp
    @thekingofkingsrp 6 місяців тому

    There isn't a damn thing bringing all them people back. It doesn't matter what you do. Especially with the way the world is now.

  • @troysmith5749
    @troysmith5749 6 місяців тому

    Cody wins the world title and is then booked worse than Rey MIsterio was when he won his first world title in 2006. Anyone else remember when Great Khali squashed Rey on Smackdown and pinned him clean with his foot on Misterio's face? It would be shocking if Cody makes it to Summerslam as champion.

    • @82automan
      @82automan 6 місяців тому

      Yep, if Cody wins the title at Maina he will loose it before SummerSlam.

    • @troysmith5749
      @troysmith5749 6 місяців тому

      @@82automan i think they're going to use Cody's reign to teach the fans a lesson, TKO is in control, not you guys, he's going to be booked to be so weak and will lose clean to someone from the J day

  • @MessyThinker
    @MessyThinker 6 місяців тому

    Who will tell Vince that people want Cody to win because they want to experience that story, not because they think it’s real?

  • @Joshuahall20045
    @Joshuahall20045 6 місяців тому

    To be fair.. Its very possible.. Whats happening right now.. Could had been the original plan.. When Cody rhodes said Not at wrestlemania is such a plot hole lol.. Then at the press conference.. A complete turn around.. At the end of the day.. You got Rock part of the show.. thats all you really need.. Match, tag match, cameo, etc... I am one who preferred Cody vs Reigns only!!! Awesome podcast Vince!!

  • @user-vi2bt6iu9x
    @user-vi2bt6iu9x 6 місяців тому +3

    WHO THE F**K IS DANIEL BRYANT?

    • @TheSwordofTruth412
      @TheSwordofTruth412 6 місяців тому

      Kobes white cousin

    • @osiawideman4851
      @osiawideman4851 6 місяців тому

      I know you don’t know wrestling if you don’t know that

    • @user-vi2bt6iu9x
      @user-vi2bt6iu9x 6 місяців тому

      bro this guy was saying that
      @@osiawideman4851

  • @akgstone
    @akgstone 6 місяців тому

    I wanted Rock and Roman to square off and when the WWE took it away because of the Cody Cry babies I absolutely knew they had caved and changed direction. It was obvious like Russo said, because Cody suddenly changed his mind 2 times for what?? Absolutely stupid

  • @rubengarza1454
    @rubengarza1454 6 місяців тому

    Hey bro! If the Rock wanted to main event wrestle mania he should've entered and won the rumble and it wouldn't be looked as much of a robbery or script it like that since it's not real!!!

  • @MegaKirk89
    @MegaKirk89 6 місяців тому

    The main event still has time to change again, doesn't it? What if they add The Rock in later to make it a triple threat match for the title, then everybody's happy.

  • @donaldcleveland5300
    @donaldcleveland5300 6 місяців тому +3

    "Mark" is a one-dimensional and insulting terminology for what every business needs- CUSTOMERS. WWE customers were insulted by Cody in the story, chasing Roman for not one year but TWO, and then at the last second after the Rumble establishes through script and intent: Cody vs Roman. It violated ALL of that to just have him blithely hand it over to Rock the next show. It also seemed a throwback to the "Vince changed his mind an hour before the show" days. I dont doubt some people did cry. We dont know the ages or maturity level of those involved. But I do know that YOU Vince Russo should not communicate in this lowest common denominator manner- leaving out or minimizing the fact that this sudden reversal of a story was caused by the whammy of several injuries and lastly Vince Mcmahon's extremely negative news threatening to overshadow the BUSINESS. Youre ignoring that the management panicked and made an illogical choice (THEY changed the plans. NOT the WWE customers). Not a calm logical one. After they settled down- they partially righted the mess they made- because the customers complained. For some odd reason Vince- you're assuming that management's panicky response was the "correct" one. It wasn't.

  • @thomashylock9730
    @thomashylock9730 6 місяців тому

    If it wasn't for wrestling, you wouldn't have this platform