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I'm glad Kevin has found a path to peace. This reminds me that we often perceive highly successful people as living their best lives, but in reality, I wouldn't want any level of financial success if it meant enduring such immense stress and anxiety.
I was injected with ketamine twice in the ER after tearing and dislocating my elbow training jiujitsu -- twice because my elbow came out of place in the cast. Two entirely different experiences, one with this feeling of deep love for everyone and everything, one of deep introspection in what felt like the depths of my soul and realizing there are some mental changes I could make that would cost me nothing. Despite the injury, I've never enjoyed my life more since that night in the ER. There are other factors at play, like my daly meditation, work in therapy (which I feel good enough to have ended in December), and reminding myself frequently that I'm on a little ball of dirt in the middle of a 13.8 billion year old universe for almost no time, so I may as well enjoy the gift of life. But there was something about those unintentional ketamine sessions that I can't help but feel nudged me toward feeling better about being alive every day. I'm glad Kevin had similar experiences. And I'm glad others can have their own experiences without their elbow exploding!
I did a series of 6 Ketamine infusions about two months ago. I can concur, it's a life changing situation, and I couldn't be happier that I dud it. Expensive for the normal person, in my opinion, but a blessing for sure.
It works after a 30 year battle with alcohol thanks to ketamine I have been free for almost a year and my Anxiety and depression is almost gone not to mention my wife is happy
I love the description of a weight being lifted. That’s how I felt after acknowledging I had an issue with anxiety it wasn’t getting better and seeking help.❤ Life is play ❤
Glad Kevin is doing hetter bow. When i heard he was creating moonbirds i immediately thought that was gonna be a bad idea. The Web3 space is very boom and bust.
Web3 can be brutal and humbles almost everyone. Whether you're Mark Cuban or Mr. Wonderful or Kevin Rose or Do Kwon or Richard Heart or an investor getting rekt, *everyone* gets humbled. It's pretty interesting honestly. Only Satoshi has the last laugh, haha. And I guess Vitalik has done well too.
Drugs likely only put your nervous system in a state where it is more open/receptive to change...But there still has to be psychological work/delving for there to be progress.
Because the drugs are not the work, they're just a map for the work. What you're asking for is spiritual bypass, and it just doesn't work that way. You still need to take all of the insights that you get from psychedelics and integrate them, probably with a professional, and that is work that a) takes years usually, and b) most people just aren't prepared to do. This is largely the problem with how psychedelics has been discussed in the last 10 years, including by people like Tim, because they paint it as a panacea, which its not, but also its exactly the reason why they do not see tangible, lasting effects from their use.
Noticed they never got back to the actual source of the problem, or the reason why Kevin had anxiety in the first place. Kevin sold MoonBird NFTs MoonBird NFTs hurt some people financially. Kevin felt empathy for those negatively affected and developed anxiety from Twitter comments The Twitter comments caused him pain equivalent to the that of a dislocated hip? Kevin got high on Ketamine When he sobered up, nothing changed, no problems were solved, people were still hurting But Kevin says he feels better. Drugs don't solve problems. They only distract you from reality temporarily. When you get back down from your high, the problems will still be there. Ketamine can't fix money problems due to lost NFT investments or any real world problem. You have to solve your problems by being analytical, creative, resourceful. and approaching solutions with a clear head.
@@jayleeds2006It's not like what you said is false but I think you're missing the psychedelic aspect. The ket let him access a spiritual realization that is factually accurate. Similar states and destination and revelation can be achieved through meditation, astral travel, and other non-drug methods. Would you be as critical if he discovered that life and its struggles are not worth stressing about thru those natural methods? Same criticism applies - those don't help the rekt NFT investors either. Sounds like you might just have a bias against a tool, in this case ketamine.
Beautiful story the only thing missing is the Integration aspects and understanding Developing new practices with oneself to keep the changes long-term
It sounds like he's describing a detachment from ego and an awareness of his truer self, without the external world contamination. It's a deep sense of peace that most folks aren't aware they can achieve at any time. People can also achieve this through a dedicated meditation practice along the lines of TM. Interesting how different people arrive at the same place, but they take different roads to get there.
Kevin was naive about crypto and nfts. The market for these things commonly exhibit pump and dump dynamics. You can't ignore this and you have to be overt about these risks and you can't talk around these things if you are leading a project. Im not impressed that Kevin took some drugs and now feels better about his naivety causing financial harm to people or Tim's smirk dismissing people blaming Kevin. This is flakiness personified.
Probably should have a not medical advice disclaimer. “Can literally carry on with your day”?! You are not supposed to drive or use heavy equipment for rest of the day. Additionally, for treatment resistant severe depression “booster” treatments are often administered every 1-3 months. The protocols, studies and science seems being developed, but the tolerance and safety seems well understood and the the out of options alternatives like transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) are experimental and permanent.
I think it sounds great, however there is no one size fits all in anything in life. Also, an IV? Injections in your blood should be HIGHLY regulated. I’m glad he found this helpful, but at $500 per session, $3,000 for 6 sessions, it’s clearly unaffordable for most The key takeaway as they said towards the end, the things that cause anxiety for 99% of the time are literally stupid and silly. Think about that or a min.
It can be very different to know something intellectually vs perceiving it as what you understand it to be. That’s what every fear is. When our brains have been wired to fear something, our brains try to maintain the fear because it thinks the fear will help keep us alive. IVs are very common, and there are many services where you can have people do a house call to give you a saline IV to help with getting over a sickness. I’m also not sure why you would assume that this licensed medical facility wouldn’t be professional about their IV use. Also, the government/religion has done SO much work to make us afraid of drugs. Kinda funny that you’re suggesting we should just drop our fears, but at the same time you’re speaking down on the drugs based on what seems like fear. If you haven’t tried it, why would you assume it’s not going to work for everyone? Just some thoughts! 😊
IV ketamine is regulated - as long as you do it properly in a clinic with a Dr. it’s very very safe medicine that they even use on kids in the ER. And while it is expensive, if it changes your life for the better it may be worth it!
Oh man, Silicon Valley geniuses and you can't get through the day. Guys, there's a great technology for curing guilt and anxiety that's been here for a couple thousand years. It's called Confession, followed by a life of sacraments. Easily accessible and free of charge too. We all make mistakes, even not wanting to. Evil is within us and we need to always be on guard. "For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do -- this I keep on doing", once said St Paul. I love you both, Tim and Kevin. I've been following you guys forever, even before Timtim Talk Talk #01. Be well.
Surprising that there's anyone left after how many generations have been "destroyed" by X. Violent video games/movies/books, Rock & Roll/Jazz/Metal, LSD/Shrooms/MJ, Porn,etc... So much wanton destruction.
I hope we won't hear about it destroying us..... but the first time I heard about Ketamine was back in the 80s on the Geraldo and Donahue. It was a Gen X thing. It was a drug that the club kids in NY were doing, along with crack and cocaine. ua-cam.com/video/fQ5RFrve468/v-deo.html Now it's on Good Morning America...they appear to want to normalize its use and convince everyone that it is safe and effective. ua-cam.com/video/SXHsUhncCNw/v-deo.html
Ketamine is not for everyone, we use it for management of severe pain. The side effects makes a grown man cry. Yes, it is helpful but very individual based. Dont glorify it.
Sometimes the hoped for effect is to make a grown man cry. If something has profoundly positive effects for some, it deserves to be given its proper appreciation. That doesn’t mean it will work for everyone.
PLEASE.. a wealthy privileged person ..oh my HOW fortunate you are to be able to go to whoever you want and get great treatment!!! ronda p likes kale full of oxalate's
So it’s two weeks since we heard ketamine was the cause of Matthew Perry’s death and the greedy self-help scene can’t at least wait til the new year to throw our lives to that again?
Sounds like you’ve fallen victim to fearmongering. He drowned in a hot tub while on ketamine. Attributing his death to the ketamine is like saying a drunk driver crashing into a wall died from alcohol-no, it was the car crash.
@@NastyDHLyou just wrote the single dumbest comment I've ever seen in my life. Drunk driver didn't die because he drank and drove? don't blame the alcohol blame the crash? what twisted thinking is that? this is like, seriously, one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, bar none. ketamine really does corrupt your brain. wow. your comment is... shockingly stupid. honestly my friend, just switch to psilocybin. it doesn't cause brain damage and actually has a respectable therapeutic window.
This is probably a paid public relations effort mitigate damage control for Ketamine makers and protect their profits....but that's just me speculating.
As a self help mind expanding explorer, there is rules to life, and Mathew Perry + Ketamine + hotub with no baby sitter (or proper self-monitoring) = death. NOT the ketamine’s fault. A rule was broken. Actions have consequences, house wasn’t in order. But he more than likely learned the truth about life and it was decided he move on instead of remaining present with that knowledge. The facts of life. REAL ones know what I mean. But SHH! 🤫 everyone has to figure it out for themselves… ❤
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I'm glad Kevin has found a path to peace. This reminds me that we often perceive highly successful people as living their best lives, but in reality, I wouldn't want any level of financial success if it meant enduring such immense stress and anxiety.
I was injected with ketamine twice in the ER after tearing and dislocating my elbow training jiujitsu -- twice because my elbow came out of place in the cast. Two entirely different experiences, one with this feeling of deep love for everyone and everything, one of deep introspection in what felt like the depths of my soul and realizing there are some mental changes I could make that would cost me nothing.
Despite the injury, I've never enjoyed my life more since that night in the ER. There are other factors at play, like my daly meditation, work in therapy (which I feel good enough to have ended in December), and reminding myself frequently that I'm on a little ball of dirt in the middle of a 13.8 billion year old universe for almost no time, so I may as well enjoy the gift of life. But there was something about those unintentional ketamine sessions that I can't help but feel nudged me toward feeling better about being alive every day.
I'm glad Kevin had similar experiences. And I'm glad others can have their own experiences without their elbow exploding!
I did a series of 6 Ketamine infusions about two months ago. I can concur, it's a life changing situation, and I couldn't be happier that I dud it. Expensive for the normal person, in my opinion, but a blessing for sure.
It works after a 30 year battle with alcohol thanks to ketamine I have been free for almost a year and my Anxiety and depression is almost gone not to mention my wife is happy
Wow time goes by so fast. I used to watch Kevin regularly on Tech TV back in the care free happier days.
Diggnation
I love the description of a weight being lifted. That’s how I felt after acknowledging I had an issue with anxiety it wasn’t getting better and seeking help.❤ Life is play ❤
Agmatine works better ive found, also work on NMDA like ket and block neurotoxticity (glutamate)
Kevin looks different. There’s a peace and happiness in his eyes holy shit
Is this today's infomercial? Seem to be getting tons of these through Joe Rogan, Huberman, Jocko, etc
Glad Kevin is doing hetter bow. When i heard he was creating moonbirds i immediately thought that was gonna be a bad idea. The Web3 space is very boom and bust.
Web3 can be brutal and humbles almost everyone. Whether you're Mark Cuban or Mr. Wonderful or Kevin Rose or Do Kwon or Richard Heart or an investor getting rekt, *everyone* gets humbled. It's pretty interesting honestly.
Only Satoshi has the last laugh, haha. And I guess Vitalik has done well too.
I been using drugs all my life and still no change! why not me?
Drugs likely only put your nervous system in a state where it is more open/receptive to change...But there still has to be psychological work/delving for there to be progress.
Because the drugs are not the work, they're just a map for the work. What you're asking for is spiritual bypass, and it just doesn't work that way. You still need to take all of the insights that you get from psychedelics and integrate them, probably with a professional, and that is work that a) takes years usually, and b) most people just aren't prepared to do. This is largely the problem with how psychedelics has been discussed in the last 10 years, including by people like Tim, because they paint it as a panacea, which its not, but also its exactly the reason why they do not see tangible, lasting effects from their use.
Noticed they never got back to the actual source of the problem, or the reason why Kevin had anxiety in the first place.
Kevin sold MoonBird NFTs
MoonBird NFTs hurt some people financially.
Kevin felt empathy for those negatively affected and developed anxiety from Twitter comments
The Twitter comments caused him pain equivalent to the that of a dislocated hip?
Kevin got high on Ketamine
When he sobered up, nothing changed, no problems were solved, people were still hurting
But Kevin says he feels better.
Drugs don't solve problems. They only distract you from reality temporarily.
When you get back down from your high, the problems will still be there.
Ketamine can't fix money problems due to lost NFT investments or any real world problem.
You have to solve your problems by being analytical, creative, resourceful. and approaching solutions with a clear head.
@@jayleeds2006It's not like what you said is false but I think you're missing the psychedelic aspect.
The ket let him access a spiritual realization that is factually accurate. Similar states and destination and revelation can be achieved through meditation, astral travel, and other non-drug methods. Would you be as critical if he discovered that life and its struggles are not worth stressing about thru those natural methods? Same criticism applies - those don't help the rekt NFT investors either.
Sounds like you might just have a bias against a tool, in this case ketamine.
I wonder what that "click" was.
Can't wait to see more of Kevin. Thanks Tim for brining him on.
“The purpose of life is to be happy” - Dalai Lama
So many words, so little information
technically speaking - Ketamine transformed Matthew Perry's life too
At least he got out of his pain… one way or the other…
Beautiful story the only thing missing is the Integration aspects and understanding
Developing new practices with oneself to keep the changes long-term
It sounds like he's describing a detachment from ego and an awareness of his truer self, without the external world contamination. It's a deep sense of peace that most folks aren't aware they can achieve at any time. People can also achieve this through a dedicated meditation practice along the lines of TM. Interesting how different people arrive at the same place, but they take different roads to get there.
Was thinking the same. You can arrive there with OBEs too.
Kevin definitely used his hair dye for this episode haha, embrace those greys my friend
all that money would help anxiety try living on 60 pond a week thats anxiety
wait what? there are scams in NFT? and mr kevin rose is openly admitting that that? really, really???
Digg nation… Alex (Aubrek) ?? Where is he ??
Alex Albrecht
Kevin was naive about crypto and nfts. The market for these things commonly exhibit pump and dump dynamics. You can't ignore this and you have to be overt about these risks and you can't talk around these things if you are leading a project. Im not impressed that Kevin took some drugs and now feels better about his naivety causing financial harm to people or Tim's smirk dismissing people blaming Kevin. This is flakiness personified.
Actual ketamine experience not till 4 minutes in. FYI
Probably should have a not medical advice disclaimer.
“Can literally carry on with your day”?! You are not supposed to drive or use heavy equipment for rest of the day.
Additionally, for treatment resistant severe depression “booster” treatments are often administered every 1-3 months. The protocols, studies and science seems being developed, but the tolerance and safety seems well understood and the the out of options alternatives like transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) are experimental and permanent.
I think it sounds great, however there is no one size fits all in anything in life.
Also, an IV? Injections in your blood should be HIGHLY regulated.
I’m glad he found this helpful, but at $500 per session, $3,000 for 6 sessions, it’s clearly unaffordable for most
The key takeaway as they said towards the end, the things that cause anxiety for 99% of the time are literally stupid and silly. Think about that or a min.
It can be very different to know something intellectually vs perceiving it as what you understand it to be. That’s what every fear is. When our brains have been wired to fear something, our brains try to maintain the fear because it thinks the fear will help keep us alive.
IVs are very common, and there are many services where you can have people do a house call to give you a saline IV to help with getting over a sickness. I’m also not sure why you would assume that this licensed medical facility wouldn’t be professional about their IV use.
Also, the government/religion has done SO much work to make us afraid of drugs. Kinda funny that you’re suggesting we should just drop our fears, but at the same time you’re speaking down on the drugs based on what seems like fear. If you haven’t tried it, why would you assume it’s not going to work for everyone?
Just some thoughts! 😊
IV ketamine is regulated - as long as you do it properly in a clinic with a Dr. it’s very very safe medicine that they even use on kids in the ER. And while it is expensive, if it changes your life for the better it may be worth it!
Oh man, Silicon Valley geniuses and you can't get through the day. Guys, there's a great technology for curing guilt and anxiety that's been here for a couple thousand years. It's called Confession, followed by a life of sacraments. Easily accessible and free of charge too. We all make mistakes, even not wanting to. Evil is within us and we need to always be on guard. "For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do -- this I keep on doing", once said St Paul. I love you both, Tim and Kevin. I've been following you guys forever, even before Timtim Talk Talk #01. Be well.
just goes to show that all of this tech stuff is anti human.
Wait until you hear about Ketamine is destroying an entire generation
Surprising that there's anyone left after how many generations have been "destroyed" by X. Violent video games/movies/books, Rock & Roll/Jazz/Metal, LSD/Shrooms/MJ, Porn,etc... So much wanton destruction.
Any tool when abused can wreak havoc. Respect is essential.
I hope we won't hear about it destroying us..... but the first time I heard about Ketamine was back in the 80s on the Geraldo and Donahue.
It was a Gen X thing.
It was a drug that the club kids in NY were doing, along with crack and cocaine.
ua-cam.com/video/fQ5RFrve468/v-deo.html
Now it's on Good Morning America...they appear to want to normalize its use and convince everyone that it is safe and effective.
ua-cam.com/video/SXHsUhncCNw/v-deo.html
Ketamine is not for everyone, we use it for management of severe pain. The side effects makes a grown man cry.
Yes, it is helpful but very individual based. Dont glorify it.
Sometimes the hoped for effect is to make a grown man cry. If something has profoundly positive effects for some, it deserves to be given its proper appreciation. That doesn’t mean it will work for everyone.
PLEASE.. a wealthy privileged person ..oh my HOW fortunate you are to be able to go to whoever you want and get great treatment!!! ronda p likes kale full of oxalate's
Woke indoctrinated dunce much.
pleb
yep..that's me..happy new year..many blessing to you@@TickleMeTimbers
For people on a budget I'd say fasting for healing and study/practice astral projection for spiritual realizations. Both free.
using drugs to find peace is so cringe.
That's precisely why you need to force yourself to experiment. Your attitude serves as the indicator!!!
@@rustyyoung7980 "force yourself to do drugs goyim!" yeah no.
You know who's else life was transformed by ketamine? Matthew Perry
Micheal Alig and Angel Melendez are also seeing the world differently and discovering new dimensions. Thanks to Ketamine!
So it’s two weeks since we heard ketamine was the cause of Matthew Perry’s death and the greedy self-help scene can’t at least wait til the new year to throw our lives to that again?
Sounds like you’ve fallen victim to fearmongering. He drowned in a hot tub while on ketamine. Attributing his death to the ketamine is like saying a drunk driver crashing into a wall died from alcohol-no, it was the car crash.
@@NastyDHLyou just wrote the single dumbest comment I've ever seen in my life. Drunk driver didn't die because he drank and drove? don't blame the alcohol blame the crash? what twisted thinking is that? this is like, seriously, one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, bar none. ketamine really does corrupt your brain. wow. your comment is... shockingly stupid. honestly my friend, just switch to psilocybin. it doesn't cause brain damage and actually has a respectable therapeutic window.
This is probably a paid public relations effort mitigate damage control for Ketamine makers and protect their profits....but that's just me speculating.
@@jayleeds2006 oh yeah Tim Ferris and Kevin Rose are trying just shills for big ketamine. right...
As a self help mind expanding explorer, there is rules to life, and Mathew Perry + Ketamine + hotub with no baby sitter (or proper self-monitoring) = death. NOT the ketamine’s fault. A rule was broken. Actions have consequences, house wasn’t in order. But he more than likely learned the truth about life and it was decided he move on instead of remaining present with that knowledge. The facts of life. REAL ones know what I mean. But SHH! 🤫 everyone has to figure it out for themselves… ❤
It s made for horses, so if you eat horse, you are actually eating ketamine 😂
That's... really not how anything works bud...