Why use Amiga in 2011? (AmigaOS 4, MorphOS, AROS, AmigaOS 3.9)
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Following on from a video I recorded in 2009: • Why use AmigaOS 4 in 2...
This video shows the latest incarnations of several Amiga flavoured operating systems.
AmigaOS 4.1: www.amigaos.net/
Sam440/460: www.amigakit.com/
AmigaOne X1000: a-eon.com/
MorphOS: www.morphos-team.net/
AROS Icaros: www.icarosdesktop.org/
ClassicWB: classicwb.abime.net/ - Наука та технологія
Looking forward to "Why use an Amiga in 2014?"
Defender of the Crown :)
Looking forward to "Why use an Amiga in 2052?"
Please make version for 2019
So basically what I got out of this video was the only reason you use amigaOS or any of the variants is because it gives you a warm nostalgic feeling?
Hey, what's wrong with that? :wink:
Dan I truly love this video, the best part of it truly is that a site in 2021 for the first time congrats man
I would just like to say it is a fantastic video, and that’s from somebody who sought for the first time in 2021. It is still worth watching for quality well done Dan
Really appreciate you posting this vid. Great to see someone is still using Amiga!
Very nice video. I am glad you are still enjoying Amiga world like I used to :) Great old times! :) :) :)
Buddy!!! You're video's are the most concise anybody has seen on UA-cam! Trust on that! You're doing a fab job! Keep up the good work! Best Wishes!!!
Interesting video. Thanks for filming and uploading it.
The software content has piqued my interest sufficiently that I'm going to follow the links you've included.
And I like the hardware content too. The eclectic mix of hardware (case, keyboard, etc) to produce such a sleek set-up scores major 'cool' points!
Good to see someone following their own path. Kudos to you! :-)
This is a great video. Subscribed, and liked it as well. Keep 'em coming, and I'll keep watching.
I used to write 6502 code for the Atari and 680x0 code for the Amiga back in the 80's, and it's amazing to be able to run these systems today, whether on new hardware or under emulation. And tempting to write apps and games for these legacy platforms, just for fun.
Loved Hired Guns. One guy on joystick, another on keyboard, third one on mouse... All looking at a 14" CRT. Priceless.
Ah yes, Dir.Opus and Protracker, that brings it all back. Cheers for the video mate, very interesting stuff!
Best 30 mins I've spent all week, thank you! THANK YOU!
I had no idea there was still an Amiga scene or that there is a up-to-date Amiga OS. Thanks for the video!
WOW thanks so much for this. I bought my A500 in the late 80's moved up to an Amiga2000 & used that for years before I reluctantly gave it up for Windows 95 sigh! I had been following the Amiga since up until maybe 2 years ago so this was a nice surprise almost brought me to tears (of joy) I just got e-mail from an old Amiga buddy and we are planning a meeting with like minded friends. That prompted me to poke around the Amiga scene again & I found you. Now I gotta check more of your videos.
Fantastic video! Thank you for this. It feels great to know there are true Amiga-heads like us out there. I really enjoyed the detail and articulated explanation of your experiences. Also, I must find one of those white Eyetech cases! That AmigaONE machine of yours is really something. I can't wait for the X1000 as well. Anyway, Well done sir. Amiga Forever :)
Really great, informative video!
Gives people an insight into why people still use and love Amiga OS (and variants). Especially people that might have never heard of them.
A better title to this video would have been;
"Why use a modernized Amiga Operating System from a long ago obsolete computer on relatively recent Apple Macintosh hardware in the year 2011, yet, ultimately, I'm never going to explain why....". =)
Well the last third of the video is on a Commodore Amiga using a 68030...
kookytech.net (techguruuk) Apple guys are still angry about the fact that the Video Toaster was available only on Amiga!
vlad "Apple guys are still angry about the fact that"- how old are you? Who are these guys and why they're allegedly "angry"? I'm "an Apple guy" and am NOT angry. Apple do theirs and Amiga DID theirs. What anger are you speaking about? Grow up, man.
Monster LMA Ok, but why use "angry"? Nobody's or was angry. It's about technology not about your mom's dirty clothes, why such emotions?
Besides, where's Amiga now and where's Apple? History of technology has already marked the end.
Amiga is still far ahead of everyone else its funny . Apple copies and still a pos.
Amiga true 64bit and can use the ITANIUM us stuck with crappy 8bit x86 please give me a brake pffft.
@Gefrce I've used AmigaOS since around 1991 and it's the OS I feel most comfortable with, understand the most and above all, enjoy using. There's not much it can do that my PC/Mac can't, except run some apps I like, and let me be involved in the community. It's just a hobby really these days.
my old installs remain too - thanks for this video man watched intently
Excellent work! Well done.
Your fans LOVE these videos.
love this video, I cant believe its back and so much better looking cant wait to load my g4 up
Responsiveness does not equal raw processing power. Windows may run at a decent speed, but only because it's not optimized and the programmers just "throw the hardware at it" to coin an old expression. AmigaOS was originally designed to run on a 1mb 7mhz 68000, while it's had a fair bit added to it over the last decade or so, its optimized roots are still there. An Amiga operating system in my experience is ALWAYS more responsive to user actions than any Windows PC I've ever used.
I tried Aros, feels like a mess to me. Frustrating as hell. But whatever.
It runs on the Raspberry PI, not that I bothered to install it there - just a VM
Amiga as OS is pretty cool to watch how it behaves and works still in these days and how compatible it is, so huge thumbs up!
Thank you techguruuk. Oh the memories.... and all the things I forgot I loved about the Amiga :)
Brilliant video, thanks for mentioning Aros. I hope to get my X1000 soon as well.
Wow man - this took me back to my childhood days. I'm considering getting some PPC Macs and installing AmigaOS on those. Thanks for the idea :)
Had great time watching the video. Thank you !
cool vid :-) .... good to see all the old stuff work well aswell....heard some news other day that development of x1000 boards were in beta test with 4.1...
Fascinating. I've not used an Amiga since my A500 days and had no idea about the more modern OS variants.
Great to see Hired Guns though - oh the memories!
Any chance of an up to date AROS review video now you've used it more?
I'm interested in it
This is a really random question but do you know if the amiga boing ball keyboards and mice they sell at amigakit work on pc's running windows or linux?
You didn't really explain why one would use this. Does it have any advantages over a modern Linux Distribution?
I think it's just a niche :/
such a nice video and so interesting. Do you mind if I play your vids on my TV station? I never had a chance to experience this, but always wanted to. I saw a cool music composition program in about 1990 and played on a friends comp for only a few minutes.
greetings from west yorkshire , i wish to meet you mate :D
this video single handedly made me want an amiga machine..great video
Really enjoyed this video.
Could you advise what screenmode you are running on your A1200 into you HDTV?
Thanks.
I love that a British guy is so in love with Amiga, because I could listen to you say "Amiger" all day and it wouldn't be less funny.
Seriously though, good vid man, keep it up, it's interesting to see someone so involved with AmigaOS in this day and age. I could never do it myself. Maybe on one computer, like a portable web browser or something, but to be stuck with old
Very, very nice, thank you for the details and the comparison between morphos and os4 when running classic 68k apps. I have one question:
Does the 68k classic app ¨Deluxe Music 2" (Electronic Arts) run on the AmigaOne X1000 under os4 ?
I spent many hours getting it up to run on MorphOS2.7 on my PowerMac but it will freeze when the system is trying to output the sound, also it has some gui errors. I assume this is because the app has no AHI option, only the original Paula sound.
cheers
Do these OS's read and run ADF files natively? Possible to connect an Amiga external floppy drive to either of them in any way?
I know this video is kinda old :) but I miss my A600 that I have owned back in the days so Im thinking of getting A1200 and I've got few questions. Hopefully you will find a time to respond. First of all I know you have said that these OS's require PPC but is there any chance to make them work on standard A1200 or A1200 + ACA if not what about let's say A600 + Vampire? The other question is which Amiga emulator is the best for PC in your opinion?
I love that Amiga OS 4.1 workbench desktop background you have in the video from 3:30 to 5:45.
You mention it is a custom workbench desktop background.
Where can we get that, even if not to use on our Amiga?
Can you post it somewhere?
Thanks.
interesting stuff, i still have a couple of basic amiga (in the loft). does the aros (PC) based os (or even the morph one) run the WHD load games like the real hardware? or do the apps u did demo get recompiled for aros/morph...
I FEEL SOOO OLD!!!!!!! I miss my Amigas........... :(
Me too man me too... I got same feelings.
Really nice video. Thumbs up :)
btw, what resolution is the A1200 running? Remember trying to run Hi Res Laced back in the day, but you would get a headache in 10min because of all the flickering, So usually used the VGAonly driver (or what it was called).
But on your video your screen doesnt seem to flicker at all, and you're using ordinary PAL.
Very nice video! I noticed you are using a rgb-cable for connecting your 1200 to a samsung LCD display. Do you notice any flickering? I have hooked up my 500 to a 26" samsung lcd screen using the same cable - still have some flickering going on. Any idea why?
Are 68k apps which depend on AGA,OCS,ECS will work under AmigaOS 4.1?
Was that a Blender Icon i saw in the Amiga OS 4.1 in the Taskbar?is there a compiled version of it for Amiga OS?
love the chuckle after showing the clock
If I remember correctly MUI is short "Magical User Interface" and was originally an extension for Workbench, right?
So in summary, the reasons for having an Amiga in our time and age are nostalgia, nostalgia, and nostalgia. If you aren't an Amiga nostalgic, there apparently are no reasons at all. I'm disappointed. :(
can you install MORPH OS on the amiga forever amgia 4000 ppc?
Best regards from another active Amiga user ;o) Nice presentation.
Does it use the old mac approach of the double fork file, where the file type is lost on a non Amiga partition (or being emailed without first being "wrapped")?
I will buy Amigas in the future, but also I wonder about your HD camera. I am also shopping for HD camera. What type of HD camera is it?
When you were talking about the fact that Amiga OSes are mostly compatible with each other (Including AROS) were you talking about all of them or those just in the PowerPC range? As in will stuff like the x86 version of AROS work with MorphOS and Amiga OS 4 Compatible software or will only the PowerPC version of AROS work with MorphOS and Amiga OS 4 software?
+Sixtyforce YTP generally a lot of modern software is cross-compiled for each OS. But, no they can't natively run each other's programs.
Side note: I think you should update this video and give reasons WHY you should use an Amiga. Or maybe there are things and opinions that have changed. Many commenters have noted that this is really more HOW to run an Amiga. Doesn't really go in depth or really explain why you should use one.
@vudarksky I've used Ubuntu since 2004, what's your point?
I think it would be great if you did a OS4.1 setup for your current configuration, to walk new users through were to find OS4 software and how to setup some of the more functional applications and applications you personally enjoy.
Would be good to do a video of AmigaSYS
I took the install of this under Amiga Forever and tried it add .hdf to FS-UAE expecting same result on Mac, however all i got was garbage screen of icons/screen . ... Perhaps i need 68040 bump instead, and/or Picasso RTG support??
Hey, how did you get the speech synthesis on OS 3.9? I thought they discontinued it from 2.1 on. I remember that was one of the big selling points of the original Amigas.
Which of these operating systems are shipped with a package manager? (which connects online to download applications?)..and if not, is this on its way?
Does the morph OS run on a beige g3 mac or the original Imac?What about 603e macs? I have a few of each of these machines and it might be interesting to try it.
@techguruuk I have Snow leopard on my Mac Mini and can run PPC apps just fine. Have they scrapped this for Lion?
I'm really curious about why you use this hardware/software combination (your machine running OS 4).
Does it having something that the mainstream systems are lacking?
I hope you can answer, thanks for a very interesting video.
I have to compliment on a rarity in this type of video. Ironically, the typically aggressive stance the Amiga fanbase takes to its promotion style was a key motivator in what deterred me from the platform in the eighties. Taking a clinical outlook and illustrating with verifiable facts is a lot more convincing.
Yeah I've tried doing videos that way, only thing is it's very difficult to see if text on the screen is actually in focus on my tiny view-finder.
What fascinates me is how compatible it is with older Amiga stuff. It's nice that people are preserving the past like this.
Yes it's fantastic! I now use it with an Indivision AGA II as well, it has HDMI, S-Video, Scart, RGB, DVI, Component, Composite, every connector I can think of to connect all my classic machines. Also has a built in flicker fixer too, looks nice and sharp. Highly recommend it
Oh, whdload installs actually work? I mean, how did you connect the Amiga to the LCD? My Amiga 1200 connected via VGA shows a black screen when games start. Always thought you needed a multisync monitor accepting 15 khz or something.
I was wondering as xbox360 is using a nice PowerPC CPU and as it features a nice Open Source and legal bootloader, could it be possible to use AmigaOS or MorphOS on an xbox360 ??
Hi very nice video, unfortunately amiga machines, even vintage one are so expensive and hard to find , but is it true that it is possible to install amiga v 4 or 4.1 on a MAC G4 PPC in order to play amiga games on it ? I spent some time looking for amiga 3000/4000 but with no luck.
Great Work mate! Hopefully Amiga will never die!
Lots of people that cannot understand why you would use an Amiga today. I struggle with that too, but I think it is the fun factor, along with doing something different.
And just look at this video, 286K views(!) which means that people surely are interested in this.
I really like that white glossy Commodore gaming case with the smallish Amiga logo, very stylish!
ok but "Why use Amiga in 2011?"
not sure if this was answered. this is more like "how" than "why".
@sqned You can, I was mistaken, oops. They added context menus to allow this in 4.1.2 it seems.
With the new Amiga OS running on a mac would you be able to run and play the original native classic Amiga games?? I'm not talking Emulation either..
nice overview!
I sooo miss this.
great vid!
Nice one, I was playing Gloom Deluxe again the other day actually. Gloom is still a fantastic game and engine, by far the best of the Amiga FPS shooters I reckon.
@djrikki2008 You know what, you're right! My mistake, just realised you can do this from the context menus in 4.2.1. I take that back then, just assumed it was the way it had always been from the Icons menu.
So what do you do with all your Amigas?
@nannynicky4life
Can you choose what system you booting? OS X or Linux? Leopard do fine with G4 800 MHZ and FireWire.
Love the AmigaOS 4, it's a fun to use operating system.
so is the amiga ur using is the hardware or is it just software? is the OS prone to viruses? is it open source like linux?
My favorite programs were Directory Opus, Aladdin 4D, and Real 3D. I spent so much time modeling on them.
Can any of the OS's you mentioned in video play games natively or do they have to use emulation as well like via non-Amiga OS?
There are few games for AmigaOS4/MorphOS4 and AROS, games mostly ported / rewritten from PC (Windows/Linux), there are also few cross platform games ported (SDL, Allegro), AROS can't run any 680x0 programs or games you need UAE, AmigaOS4 and MorphOS can but compatibility is low, due to missing chips, and misbehaving programs and games. AROS runs best under emulation on Linux, due to lack of drivers.
Having answered that, A-EON has been buying old source code for programs, and is updating the programs, so the programs works better on AmigaOS4 and MorphOS.
can you run native amiga apps on the aros version (eg - does it emulate 68xxxx?)
How did you achived so stable screen on video? what was the refresh rate? :-)
@usquanigo I am aware you can play mods on other platforms of course. Mac keyboards have not had Apple keys on them since 2008, they just have a key with CMD written on it, no logos anywhere on them apart from the label underneath. Run on Windows is not the same as the RAM Disk, windows simply downloads the file to the Temp directory on the hard disk, they stay in there afterwards to until you/the system does a clean up, so they still take up disk space.
Do you still have your amigaOne? Do you still use it?
@syner79 Hey. it runs using the inbuilt JIT compiler, it's a 68K app but it will just run seamlessly in OS4, no emulation required. It's like using the fastest classic machine you could find.
Is there an Amiga distribution that runs on x86_64?
I know I could get the X86 AROS, but would it support all of my RAM?
Very interesting video
is there a possibility to run flash videos with amiga os4? guess not right ? i really would think about buying on again if! :)
Nice review.
how does the Amiga Menubar / multi-desktop function on multiple monitors (multi-head). big fan of the amiga/mac menu scheme;
Also, do any of the modern amiga os's combine expose / spaces type functionality. (the way gnome-shell works for example might make sense.. imagine the desktops sliding off to the side...)
Hi, I have a ibook g4. what do you think I can run on it in the amiga arena? 1.33ghz g4, with 1.25gigs of ram.
nice to find here your configurations , I've just "rebuild" an Escom A4000T with cyberstorm PPC , running OS3,9 ...
keep the vibe ^_^