No.119 - Racal-Dana 9900 Universal Counter Timer Repair

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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  • @IanScottJohnston
    @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому +13

    Re-uploaded to add in notice about the ceramic possibly being made out of Beryllium Oxide and the possible health issues. Better safe than sorry.
    See the link in the video description.

    • @donepearce
      @donepearce 10 місяців тому +3

      Unlikely. Beryllium oxide is used as an insulating substrate with excellent heat conductivity. You'll find it in RF power transistors.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому +4

      Agreed, possibly Aluminum Oxide or Magnesium Oxide?.....but at end of day who knows! I am borrowing a diamond tester (electronic device) which is apparently quite reliable at testing for Beryllium Oxide.

    • @chongli297
      @chongli297 10 місяців тому

      Thanks for the warning about Beryllium Oxide. That stuff is quite scary. I think people often encounter it when tearing down microwave ovens where it's used as an insulator in the magnetron. Better safe than sorry is absolutely the right call when doing any sort of grinding or filing of unknown ceramics!

    • @donepearce
      @donepearce 10 місяців тому

      @@chongli297 Beryllium oxide is perfectly safe in bulk. The danger comes if you grind it into dust and inhale it. Don't worry about lumps of it.

    • @chongli297
      @chongli297 10 місяців тому

      @@donepearce Yeah though from what I've seen, people unknowingly take a dremel to it and create a ton of fine dust

  • @PurityVendetta
    @PurityVendetta 11 днів тому

    Total beginner here teaching myself from videos like this. I picked up a 9900 quite cheaply. As you said in the video this is a great tool to learn on. It was interesting to see inside and hear someone with lots more experience talk about the 9900.

  • @2sc458
    @2sc458 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow. That dodged a bullet. That LSI spun around 180 degrees and it still worked after correcting the orientation and (awesomely) grinding down the package to tack solder on the lead? That's how I'd like to remember myself and my electronics technician past. LOL. You are a master.

  • @TheBreadboardca
    @TheBreadboardca 10 місяців тому

    Ah, the memories of units like this back in the day when I worked for Welwyn Electronics in the north of England as a calibration Engineer.
    Keep up the excelent work Ian

  • @daveodessa
    @daveodessa 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks Ian. I wondered what happened first time.

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse 10 місяців тому +2

      Me too.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, I don’t like to do it as I lost some good comments. Oh well!

  • @stazeII
    @stazeII 10 місяців тому

    Well done! Glad that chip survived being inserted backward.

  • @IMSAIGuy
    @IMSAIGuy 10 місяців тому

    I love the repair

  • @TheCrakkle
    @TheCrakkle Місяць тому

    Had to do the same my self more than once, mostly use turned pin for this type of repairs.
    Epoxy packages are much easier, top marks for persistence.
    Nice work, boubtful its berylium Oxide though.
    Althouigh if I recall correctly the contacts were gold plated berylium copper.

  • @paulmoir4452
    @paulmoir4452 9 місяців тому

    If you're ever in a similar position, you can poke around with a multimeter with the diode check function. Inputs are going to look about the same, outputs are going to look the same but different from inputs, power and ground stand out.

  • @ryebis
    @ryebis 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice repair, I've wanted to buy one of Racal's 500x DMMs for a while but people that sell them don't want to ship them overseas. They used to make good gear.

  • @FlyingShotsman
    @FlyingShotsman 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice repair, Ian. Beautiful job on that ceramic IC; it should have been a total loss. The way that unit's internal oscillator is configured on a separate board at the back of the enclosure just cries out for a high-accuracy, high-stability upgrade. Future video?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому +1

      It’s a 5MHz crystal oscillator on that wee Pcb I believe, if it had been 10MHz then it would have been easier by just adding an OCXO.

    • @TheHWcave
      @TheHWcave 10 місяців тому

      @@IanScottJohnstonGreat repair. I just got one of those £13 ebay 10MHz OCXO for my HP5334B. Just aging it at the moment... pretty stable already. For your unit, just add one flipflop to divide by 2 ?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому

      @@TheHWcave very true, I have a few 10MHz OCXO lying about……might just do the flip flop upgrade.

  • @Manticore1960
    @Manticore1960 10 місяців тому

    @ 15:32 It should work on the 10^4 range, but you didn't give it enough time. It takes a count every 10 seconds on that range. I have the 9901 & 9904. Also a few 1991 & 1998's. Bit of a Racal Dana nut :) Nice repair. 👍

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому +1

      Yep, saw that when I was editing the video. Cheers.

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 10 місяців тому +1

    Cheers !

  • @gbowne1
    @gbowne1 10 місяців тому

    I have to say thats a lovely layout inside there. Oh yeah I found the HP 3245 bits I didnt use from one of the last videos you did if you still want them.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 10 місяців тому

    Fantastic fix Ian =D

  • @allthegearnoidea6752
    @allthegearnoidea6752 10 місяців тому

    I think I have the same counter on my bench at work that I accidentally borrowed from ferranti about 30 years ago. They work ok but not stunning and really lacking in decimal places for modern radio work, from memory they are quite low frequency range about 30mhz , still nice to have an LED display for easy of reading. Oh the push switches need cleaning periodically. Those electrolytics of that style will be bad.

  • @apollorobb
    @apollorobb 10 місяців тому +1

    Not having an MCU can be a good thing .

  • @RayR
    @RayR 10 місяців тому +1

    God I'm reallly staring to hate the sponsor promotions that are popping up on UA-cam.. I pay good money to get of ads on UA-cam and the ads/sponser clips are starting to be everywhere. The whole point of paying for no ads it to see no ads but here they are. So annoying.

    • @wevrwevRFve
      @wevrwevRFve 10 місяців тому +1

      Gotta make your money somehow 🤷‍♂️

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  10 місяців тому +4

      I can’t speak for UA-cam Ad banners as I have YT Premium, but for my own sponsor Ad I wouldn’t be able to make videos without them. I feel your pain though, some sponsor Ads on channels I follow last for 5 mins.

    • @ryebis
      @ryebis 10 місяців тому +1

      pft, don't like em ? don't watch them, skip to the parts you want to watch.

    • @timturner7609
      @timturner7609 10 місяців тому

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    • @gordonwedman3179
      @gordonwedman3179 10 місяців тому

      @@timturner7609
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