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  • Welcome to the channel. Thought I'd do a little video on Price Work and rates, quite often gets lads ringing up looking for price work, looking for top rates but not really having the experience or knowledge on how to make things work! I really don't think some brickies appreciate how much is required to make good money these days! Price work gangs need to be organised, well drilled and have a balanced gang with one person in charge unless they are on the split! 3 and 1 is a nice sized gang for folks the split!
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  • @bardy9240
    @bardy9240 2 місяці тому +11

    Considering we’re a grand plus down on the old prices per plot I don’t think it’s us that’s the problem. We’re having to build these houses 2 days quicker to make them pay the same as we were getting before.

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +7

      So when the market is on an upward trend, we pay more money! but when there is a slow down and sites become more competitive and discounts are agreed we should pay you the same? How about you earn less during a downturn? Is that ok? Because we are.

  • @aaronwhite6236
    @aaronwhite6236 2 місяці тому +5

    You are bang on here, hear it time and time again

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      Lads have a great opportunity but just don’t take the risk

  • @quabarb4547
    @quabarb4547 2 місяці тому +3

    I love this channel tony i love how your stir the pot and wind up all the brickys 😂

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks mate although I’m not trying to wind anyone up, I promise 😂👍🏻

  • @ryc650
    @ryc650 2 місяці тому +3

    My issue atm is the excessive amount of DPC / sticky DPC . We have 4layers of some kind of dpc in 2 courses.
    The cleaning of cavity’s, knocking of ties. If when you’ve scraped a snot your wall tie is a bit wonky . Drill it out and straighten it up.
    Wall ties being measured and if not in 10mm tollerence take them out and re do them.
    The standards we have to work to are a lot harder then they’ve ever been

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      I think standards are being raised so I think rates will have to increase for both trades and subbies but we currently find ourselves in a rocky part of the economic cycle so rates will remain reduced for little while yet. As the warranty providers standards increase and the Pride In The Job standard is pushed higher and higher we will have to see a higher rate, surely? Most improved trade I reckon?

  • @CharlieCollison
    @CharlieCollison 2 місяці тому +4

    Don’t be putting that drunk video of me up in Germany 😂😂

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +2

      Dropping Sunday at 5pm 😂👍🏻 good trip

  • @lifeconnections8259
    @lifeconnections8259 2 місяці тому +5

    Price gang at four? 😅Yet again, great advice given.

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      I actually used to leave at 4:30, not sure why I said 4. I did always use to have two breaks though, most price work gangs have one break now

  • @deaconstjohn7539
    @deaconstjohn7539 2 місяці тому +5

    Mate I normaly agree with yoy but 25 years I this game and listen to you bang on about must use profiles and that proves yous are the problem. What you want is max output soon make max profit, why should we work to the extent were burnt out by 50-60 so you can make a fortuneand we struggle. Uts down to you lot agreeing to take cuts in prices and bashing the worker instead of saying no, Blaming the guy that makes you your money is shocking My boss never drops rates he takes the hit as he made the money in the good times. People like you have destroyed this game.

  • @silvanusayres
    @silvanusayres 2 місяці тому +2

    You are bang on there tony you are right

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      Just my thoughts mate, sure many disagree but I think there are good opportunities, people just need to take them

  • @BB-mv9wl
    @BB-mv9wl 2 місяці тому +3

    Ive been after a video like this for a long time. Can you add a video on the specifics of forming a price gang and how they acquire work please?

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the content idea 💡

    • @BB-mv9wl
      @BB-mv9wl 2 місяці тому

      @Tone_Team Thanks again. Your explanation has helped me plan ahead.

  • @MarkSmith-hd5ez
    @MarkSmith-hd5ez 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s just the way it is mate good advice

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      🫡

    • @MarkSmith-hd5ez
      @MarkSmith-hd5ez 2 місяці тому

      Are industry is not about sentiment it’s about fact production talks bull shit walks back in my day yours and are dads if you lost you lost plain and simple

  • @robpinney2997
    @robpinney2997 2 місяці тому +4

    Problem is most gangs want to be finished by 2-3
    I’ve just finished I’m 57 and we always go site and 7.30 and finished 5 and 1.30 on Friday and we always done well through the good and the bad times

    • @Jd23-iw7kk
      @Jd23-iw7kk 2 місяці тому +3

      No offence but any squad that had to work till 5 oclock may aswell put their trowels in the bin. We worked 8-3 every day with one 15/20 min break then 8-1 on a Friday. We have always made good money. No half decent squad should be sitting on a building site till 5pm

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      I never worked to 5 but always done 4:30 and 4 on a Friday. I always felt that working full days covered for when you had them bad days when the silo breaks or there is a crane blocking your loading bay etc

    • @robpinney2997
      @robpinney2997 2 місяці тому

      @@Jd23-iw7kk how many days have we been rained off since Xmas?
      Them few hours a week covers that
      That’s like extra day a week so if you get 40 full weeks a year that’s extra 40 days pay a year
      So all the days you can’t work for rain frost anything it’s covered

  • @hod2116
    @hod2116 2 місяці тому +4

    Price gang without profiles ain't no price gang

    • @jsaunders9804
      @jsaunders9804 2 місяці тому +1

      What are they then?

    • @hod2116
      @hod2116 2 місяці тому

      @@jsaunders9804 people playing at being a price gang

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      I think you always need at least some kind of profile setup

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      Building corners has its place, I done a video on them a little while ago but really no need with small gangs! Should be profiles all the way

  • @Greek7812
    @Greek7812 2 місяці тому +2

    You make all the money

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      That’s a bit like saying our customer make all the money

    • @Greek7812
      @Greek7812 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Tone_Team they do

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  Місяць тому

      ⭕️

  • @craigjolley2320
    @craigjolley2320 2 місяці тому +3

    Lost 10 percent on the our prices in October think that was across the board

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      10% seems to be pretty much what everyone has suffered

  • @Mark-lu3tn
    @Mark-lu3tn 2 місяці тому +2

    Don't think of rate just get on with work money will follow

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      Head down and your do ok 👍🏻

  • @stevegorton8816
    @stevegorton8816 2 місяці тому +6

    What rates do you pay then

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      Classic answer but................it depends

    • @Greek7812
      @Greek7812 2 місяці тому +1

      It's always top secret never tell you

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      @@Greek7812 £1 per brick and £3 per block 👍🏻

  • @michaelwatson2750
    @michaelwatson2750 2 місяці тому +2

    The subby im with has had his prices cut by 10 percent so cut ours by 10 but the dumpy blocks was a bad price anyway so now we get what he gets hes making nothing on them

    • @biggjakers
      @biggjakers 2 місяці тому +2

      Thats what he tells you 😂

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      Alot of subbies have taken a cut, I am sure that there are some that refused but when the market is good we get the going rate and when there is a downturn it is only natural house builders like a discount. I know people don't look at it this way but the market always needs a correction in order to keep going. After boom comes bust, after bust comes boom. Recessions are part of the economy due to our fiat (money) currency system. If countries and governments continue to print money then there will always be uncertainty

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      I am sure he's telling the truth, dangerous game if you are deceiving your labour force

  • @silvanusayres
    @silvanusayres 2 місяці тому +2

    It is not the rate it is cos they are not organised what happens you get thew boys on day rate then they think we go on price work and that is where the trouble starts on day work they aint got get lintels and window frames and all the other stuff because when they was on day work all done for them ice seen loads of blokes like that other the years they not organised organisation is the key to it

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      I agree 👍🏻 they need to get after it a bit and get organised 👍🏻

  • @123draney
    @123draney 2 місяці тому +2

    Bang on

  • @johngarthwaite4051
    @johngarthwaite4051 2 місяці тому +4

    It’s okay you saying all that… but I bet your wage hasn’t been affected…I’ll be surprised if it has ?

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      With turnover running at half what do you think would happen?

    • @OutofPlumb-ic5pl
      @OutofPlumb-ic5pl 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Tone_Team half turnover for your setup is probably making 20%....
      so when you are running at full capacity.... your profit margin is 40%+.
      meanwhile these boys take the hit and their profit margins are break even or less...

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      @@OutofPlumb-ic5pl yeah it doesn’t work like that mate. If we could double profit on half the turn over then why wouldn’t we do that in the first place 🥴

    • @johngarthwaite4051
      @johngarthwaite4051 2 місяці тому +1

      I’ll take that as a no then brickys prices go down but management not affected!!

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому +1

      @@johngarthwaite4051 Again, how the hell do we double profit levels with half the turnover? Are you trying to say that because we are doing less work and turning over less money we have just increased our margin ?

  • @dannsmcshane1233
    @dannsmcshane1233 2 місяці тому +4

    3/1 squad is hopeless it impossible you just run out off stuff and trying too keep hop ups on scaffolding modern sites work best on 2/1 squad

    • @jsaunders9804
      @jsaunders9804 2 місяці тому +1

      We are a 2/1 and have 4 plots on the go but still can’t organise it so have to jump on a garden wall

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      3 and 1 is my sweet spot for gang sizes

    • @Tone_Team
      @Tone_Team  2 місяці тому

      Very rarely happens to us