I have the FH36, for the money it's a great sounding unit. Not very versatile like some others but it has a low noise floor and really pleasant long warm verb. Sensitivity seems to have dual function for both input and output, I assume sort of like dwell seems to control amount of signal applied by varying impedance. If you overdrive it on the input it creates some crazy sounds.
@ yes works for vocals very natural and pleasant. Keep in mind that sometimes spring verb can resonate if vocal hits a specific frequency. So like any analog verb it will ‘sing’ on that frequency, like a high pitch note tail. Doesn’t happen often but it can depending on the material of any source really not just vocal.
Thanks! Quite a few of those have left us now, but a lot more have arrived and stayed :) - we're very much overdue making a follow up to this. Those Pioneers are great, as long as the tanks are OK then you'll get that magic...
loved the schaller! I use the spring reverb on my solid state Fender Princeton 65' amp from the 90's. Must get myself an outboard one... Or a plate reverb, if only.
Thank you! And yes - it's why since this was filmed we've devoted many, many hours to working out how to recreate that exact Grampian. If you want to know more about this project (and buying one!) you can read more here: soundgas.com/product/soundgas-type-636-grampian-spring-reverb/
it would be nice to hear the Pioneer SR-101 with some oldies low rider music because when i was a kid my dad had one in his car i loved the sound but i noticed they all sound different
They all sound so different!=). An eyeopener for me, although it would be nice to hear a complete drumloop run through different units to hear how they react to low end. My favourites where the grampian(perhaps due to the preamps but the colouration, distortion of the whole snare blew me away!), the laney(seem to have a more treblee and snarefriendly sound, or the ability to shape the verb in a way that i would find very usefull in a drumverb), Telefunken(again maybe more due to the distortion, colouration of the actual snaresound,,nonetheless!) and the airline(magic in a more dark, vibey sort of way). This video gave me my hope back for finding verbs that dont kill my vibe and put me in debt(plates, big ol lexicons etc). I was dissapointed in my vermona vsr3.2 for drums because of the long tale and general boomines, i want a drumverb with character and short tales(maybe a good ol gate after it but some of these seem to blend well with drums)
Thanks for your comments and thoughts. Glad it has been of some use. There is a part 2 we need to make with a load more springs but it's finding the time. And yes, we'd like to do one with a drum loop. We're just about to put up a load more explorations of the mighty Grampian - such an wild piece of gear but definitely not in the "affordable" category! The Telefunken could be a good choice - that Germanium distortion is always a winner. But if you want more specific assistance finding a spring on a certain budget then get in touch with us via the site and we can advise and even possibly do specific demos to order.
telemauler It was just a run through of the springs we had around at the time. We're going to do a follow up where we should get up to 20 different units including some more rarities. A tube Fender reverb isn't one we've currently got but you're totally right that we need to get one (it doesn't take much for us to justify buying more gear). Watch this space...
There can be pretty wide variation between these units (whether they have the W or not). When you find a good one they sound great. But they are old and quite a few that we see sound pretty dull and tired. So our guess is it's that - your SR202 was just a particularly good one!
RedRoomNW Thanks for your comments. All Grampians sound different. The Germanium transistors used degrade at different rates, so each Grampian is unique. Every one we've had has needed some repair or servicing which again will alter the sound. We happen to have two so I thought it'd be good to have both here - unfortunately the full test of the battery one got edited out. Maybe we'll do a new edit including more of it: we have some more springs here now, so it'd be good to extend this test...
Thanks. We employ 13 people and are training the next generation of technicians to ensure the gear we sell will remain viable well into the future. We also support and work with some notable independent techs, craftspeople and businesses. I know of few other companies investing in the future of vintage gear in this way. Unfortunately there's no way to do what we do cheaply.
I have the FH36, for the money it's a great sounding unit. Not very versatile like some others but it has a low noise floor and really pleasant long warm verb. Sensitivity seems to have dual function for both input and output, I assume sort of like dwell seems to control amount of signal applied by varying impedance. If you overdrive it on the input it creates some crazy sounds.
Works for vocals?? I am thinking of bying
@ yes works for vocals very natural and pleasant. Keep in mind that sometimes spring verb can resonate if vocal hits a specific frequency. So like any analog verb it will ‘sing’ on that frequency, like a high pitch note tail. Doesn’t happen often but it can depending on the material of any source really not just vocal.
Grampian 636 is insane !!! and the Pioneer SR101 is great too
As a reggae/dub head I appreciate the Trojan Records box set on the desk. The "Roots" box was a good one.
What a nice collection of Reverb Machines. Presently reconditioning a Pioneer SR-202.
Thanks! Quite a few of those have left us now, but a lot more have arrived and stayed :) - we're very much overdue making a follow up to this. Those Pioneers are great, as long as the tanks are OK then you'll get that magic...
SR101 is the Princess!!
Pioneer 201 and Vermona Retroverb are beasts !
loved the schaller! I use the spring reverb on my solid state Fender Princeton 65' amp from the 90's. Must get myself an outboard one... Or a plate reverb, if only.
Awesome Collection
That Grampian W😎W
Thank you! And yes - it's why since this was filmed we've devoted many, many hours to working out how to recreate that exact Grampian. If you want to know more about this project (and buying one!) you can read more here: soundgas.com/product/soundgas-type-636-grampian-spring-reverb/
loving the sound of spring reverbs. thanks for this nice introduction of these vintage machines. put some of my shopping list ;)
Superlover Thanks! As soon as we'd done it we found two more so there will be a follow up at some point.
it would be nice to hear the Pioneer SR-101 with some oldies low rider music because when i was a kid my dad had one in his car i loved the sound but i noticed they all sound different
They all sound so different!=). An eyeopener for me, although it would be nice to hear a complete drumloop run through different units to hear how they react to low end. My favourites where the grampian(perhaps due to the preamps but the colouration, distortion of the whole snare blew me away!), the laney(seem to have a more treblee and snarefriendly sound, or the ability to shape the verb in a way that i would find very usefull in a drumverb), Telefunken(again maybe more due to the distortion, colouration of the actual snaresound,,nonetheless!) and the airline(magic in a more dark, vibey sort of way). This video gave me my hope back for finding verbs that dont kill my vibe and put me in debt(plates, big ol lexicons etc). I was dissapointed in my vermona vsr3.2 for drums because of the long tale and general boomines, i want a drumverb with character and short tales(maybe a good ol gate after it but some of these seem to blend well with drums)
Thanks for your comments and thoughts. Glad it has been of some use. There is a part 2 we need to make with a load more springs but it's finding the time. And yes, we'd like to do one with a drum loop. We're just about to put up a load more explorations of the mighty Grampian - such an wild piece of gear but definitely not in the "affordable" category! The Telefunken could be a good choice - that Germanium distortion is always a winner. But if you want more specific assistance finding a spring on a certain budget then get in touch with us via the site and we can advise and even possibly do specific demos to order.
Rather surprised that a vintage tube Fender Reverb Unit wasn't included. Just a thought.
telemauler It was just a run through of the springs we had around at the time. We're going to do a follow up where we should get up to 20 different units including some more rarities. A tube Fender reverb isn't one we've currently got but you're totally right that we need to get one (it doesn't take much for us to justify buying more gear). Watch this space...
how would the fischer reverb compare ?
Why does the SR202 have more reverb than the SR202W? They are pretty much the same unit in a different housing.
There can be pretty wide variation between these units (whether they have the W or not). When you find a good one they sound great. But they are old and quite a few that we see sound pretty dull and tired. So our guess is it's that - your SR202 was just a particularly good one!
thank you! this a very useful video!!
Great idea for a video, alot of varieity here. Cheers.
This is is amazing. Ear-candy :)
Awesome. Thanks much for sharing. Whats the difference (or what is happening) with the 636 "battery" vs "mains"?
RedRoomNW Thanks for your comments. All Grampians sound different. The Germanium transistors used degrade at different rates, so each Grampian is unique. Every one we've had has needed some repair or servicing which again will alter the sound. We happen to have two so I thought it'd be good to have both here - unfortunately the full test of the battery one got edited out. Maybe we'll do a new edit including more of it: we have some more springs here now, so it'd be good to extend this test...
Soundgas - Vintage, rare & unusual studio gear & instruments Thanks for the detailed answer. I look forward to it.
Forgot about the schaller reverb! Again seem to be the sound of the preamp!>
Hi Soundgas, is the Grampian 636 still available for sale?
+ranikade3 Sorry no - it's one from our studio.
Could you show me how to connect my sr 202 w please xden
Great demo,such a shame Soundgas are SO expensive.
Thanks. We employ 13 people and are training the next generation of technicians to ensure the gear we sell will remain viable well into the future. We also support and work with some notable independent techs, craftspeople and businesses. I know of few other companies investing in the future of vintage gear in this way. Unfortunately there's no way to do what we do cheaply.
@@Soundgas Reduce profit-that usually works!
@@sharonlee4773 Increase your income-that usually works!
Why only snare? you should test a whole pattern with all these beauties
Some of the tests were inconclusive... really!