Right wing views are not wholly owned by white western countries. Regarding the Uk I’ve found some of the strongest views on immigration coming from first generation immigrants. Although the situation is massively exaggerated to sell newspapers. Does the majority of people really believe illegal immigration is a new thing or started when the channel tunnel was built. Humans - and their bitching - doesn’t really change. History repeats. On which note - it is only a matter of time before Polish workers expect the same protections and privileges as UK workers - else they’ll have massive inequality and suffering like those other pro business countries (US for example)
That will never happen, no idea why do Easterners with their poor demography imagine like they're the future superpower of the Western world? Same applies to Russia, some political bloggers also imagine how Germans and Brits will come to superrich Russians and they will laugh at them. No way, with our miserable nominal gdps of 15-25 k compared to their 55-65 k.
as a Polish person it stressess me out, everytime in history we are getting back on our feet and experiancing some kind of success local powers attack us or destabilize our country in some way and we go into huge crisis. We must be extremely vigilant now not to repeat mistakes from the past 😬
I went to Poland in May this year and I can personally say we are already far far behind Poland on living standards. while we may earn more money that doesn't mean a thing when Poland have a clean, safe and functioning country. I no longer feel safe in the UK, the place is a dump and everything is broken or only barely holding on despite all of the money we supposedly spend. I imagine corruption and the crippling burden of the unemployed, supporting immigrants and excessive benefits are the cause.
It just shows what a lie GDP is. We have always been *officially* richer than Spain & portugal, and yet every airport, bus station, & major road in those countries is far better quality than the rubbish in the UK. People call the italians corrupt, but given the standard the govts preferred contractors in the UK (who all happen to be the tories - maybe labour too - biggest donors) operate at, you have to wonder.
I told my polish colleague he would be better off returning to Poland and investing there because there would be better opportunities in his homeland if the UK economy faced a financial crisis, that was in 2007! He looked at me like I was crazy...I heard he went back around 2012. Hope life is good back there my friend.
You have no ISAs, 19% gains tax, weak currency buying force and it's just from the top of my head. The way people treat each other is awful, a lot of envy and directness nobody asks for. It's going to be a decade next year since I left and it was the best decision I could make. Before any commitment, do your own research, visit and live for few months at least, not as a tourist. Don't be fooled, as grass is always greener on the other side.
I look forward to the success of Poland, I hope that it will soon be at the very top of the world economy and that it will become the strongest Slavic country. Big greetings to the Polish people from Montenegro.
I visit Montenegro last summer and I have to say I never been in the more beautiful european country before. And those girls are just simple angels ! I love Montenegro, greets for you all !
I hope Montenegro will join the EU soon and become my favorite summer destination. I've been there twice and I have to admit that it's a small but incredibly beautiful and appealing country :)
Czarnogóra is such a beautiful country..... thx man but i don't think so. Each time we get on our feet something, someone or we ourselves are fckn everything up. :(
I'm a civil engineer from Norway. Since 2020, we have lost like 1/4 (maybe even 2/3) of polish workers in a building industry. I spoke with some guys, and they explained to me that even though wages in Poland are lower than in Norway, they have a better quality of life there. Many of them own apartments and houses, so no costs related to rent or bank loan. Grocery is cheaper. And huge plus is that they are surrounded by their own... family, friends. There is no need to lear a new language. So diference in wages doesn't play that big deal for them when you take all in account. Plus, the Norwegian krone has lost 23% of its value against the euro over the last five years. This means that a salary of 25,000-28,000-30,000 kroner after tax is no longer equivalent to €2,500, €2,800, or €3,000, but rather €2,100, €2,350, and €2,520. People simply don’t want to work outside their home countries for that kind of money anymore.
Salaries in Poland are lower than in Norway, but prices are also many times lower, if you take into account prices and salaries, then in Poland the earnings are about the same as in Norway, or even higher, Poland is one of the best countries in Europe, and the best country is the Czech Republic
people won't really complain about the low wage if the cost of living is lower everyone can live a luxurious or comfortable life next to good safety and security.
@@frederickmuhlbauer9477 Unfortunately, we were raised with a sense of inferiority towards the West, while people living in the West felt a sense of superiority towards us. Therefore, when we went to work for you, we often tolerated even scandalous treatment. And that mentality has stayed with us to this day. Poles are convinced that it is expensive in Poland (it is more expensive than it used to be, but still cheaper than in the West). Often, we have no idea about foreign salaries. Poles tend to believe that people from the UK or Germany earn 20,000 a month. We often think that we are technologically backward, while our banking system may be one of the most efficient in Europe, and the digitization of public offices is at a top level. In fact, our salaries are today at the level of Spain. From the poorest country we grew to be a mediocre EU wise, but also 6th biggest economy. There is still fuckloads to do, but we actually getting there. 10 more years and the gap will be minimal. Let's hope that we won't get involved in a war though, as that would put us 50 years behind again.
Hi. Half-Polish, born and raised in the UK. I just got back from visiting family in Poland last week. Whatever the stats say, from my perception, I have to say that living standards are already higher in Poland, qualitatively speaking. Towns and cities are thriving, with a positive vibe. Prices are relatively low, with some critical costs (such as public transport) being particularly affordable. Even down in Silesia, where my family live, everything seems to be thriving. (Silesia is kind of the equivalent of South Wales; history of coal mining and heavy industry, much of which has declined or shut down in recent years, with associated negative social impact). I have to say the Polish economy is underpinned by a very strong work ethic and rock-solid family values, both of which seem to be sadly lacking in the UK just now.
Work ethics and family values have significantly declined in the UK, over that last decade. The British mindset is, sadly, one of envy and blaming others, rather than trying to do the best for ones family.
@@0runny I've noticed that work ethics are unchanged in the rural location I'm in, much less to hide behind and ones that don't do well quickly move to the cities. Your opinion of the British mindset is just that, your opinion. There are plenty of hardworking Brits who take personal responsibility very seriously, and have no time for anyone who doesn't. I'd argue that wealth transfer is the debate to have, and why this has occurred.
It's booming because it doesn't have multicultural problems.. Multicultural problems crime/police/jail/benefits are an expensive drain..the more people get taxed the less disposal income they have to spend. Hence decline
I went to Poland this summer to visit a couple of friends who relocated there a long time ago. It may not be the case statistically, but to all practical intents and purposes I'd say living standards there have already long surpassed the UK. The streets are clean and safe and infrastructure is being built at pace. People are wonderful and friendly and they have a strong sense of ambition. Everyone was working side hustles or doing evening classes with some personal goal in mind. There is a sense of ascendency - things are on the up and up and they feel their efforts are being (or will be) rewarded. Complete polar opposite to the UK where everything is degrading and decaying, and there is a palpable sense of despondency and hopelessness.
There was already a mass emigration from the English Isles to Poland in history. Throughout the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries, about 40 thousand Scots arrived - due to religious persecution. You have Scottish tombstones, old, historical names of districts, e.g. Gdańsk - Stare Szkoty, Nowe Szkoty associated with Scottish emigrants living there. In the 17th century, in the battle of Oliwa, against the Swedes, the deputy commander of the Polish fleet was a Scottish emigrant - James Murray.
As a Brit in London I always loved the Poles, they are great family, intelligent, friendly and polite. I wish we had more poles and less of certain "other" people in the UK.
This is exactly what saddens me. We, polish people at least could adjust to the culture, respect UK's... We didn't bring ours and force it on Brits... It is so sad what's happening to the UK. I have never been there but what I see on some videos makes me wanna go there and help "throw garbage out"...
As a Polish person who lived in Manchester for some time I weep over what is happening to your country. You've lovely history, culture, atmosphere and traditions - those were the selling points for me to move there previously, and those exact points are being actively destroyed right now both by your government, politics and the migrants from ... less developped countries. England is being transformed into a garbage dump, and it hurts to see such a previously great country, with deep history, traditions and culture being erased. We will miss you guys.
As a Dane who have worked with alot of Polish people in Denmark, i have NOTHING bad to say. The Polish people are smart and hardworking, and they are also friendly and welcoming. I think Denmark and Poland share many views on humanity etc. Otherwise, what i see is the British are snobbish people, who think they are superior. If I should choice a new country to live in, and I have England or Poland to chose from, I would take Poland without a blink with my eyes
what I experienced visiting both countries is so that Poland is a country with clean and safe cities with own, polish culture, I really felt safe there and chill. England is the opposite. It is not safe, it is dirty and there is no English culture at all looking around the streets. England is a failed society.
I've been working in Germany, UK and Denmark. Danes are the best. I mean their mentality is cool. Hygge and stuff. A lot of really nice and smart ppl. I feel good in Denmark. Next year I'm goin to visit my friends there and hit some trip to the shelters on the top of Vejle fjord. Few days on the boat and Backyard Burger in Fredericia. That's the plan. Greetings from Poland.
Agree, English feel sort of superiority to others which is difficult to explain where is it coming from (probably colonial times). No one like English abroad on holidays because of their behaviour.
Been living Poland 5 years now. I visit my family in the UK 2/3 times a year and in my opinion, living standards are already better in Poland. I can get an doctors appointment on the same day I call, I use the NFZ, not private. I can walk all around Warsaw with my GF and feel safe. Especially in the main cities like Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw, Poznan and even Krakow, there is a vastly higher standard of living.
Krakow has the highest average wage. It’s 2.7k€ a month, it’s more than in Warsaw but also Prague and Vilnius. Even more than in Eastern region of Germany (except for Berlin)
As a Pole, I can say that Poland's economic prosperity was partially supported by the UK, for which we are grateful. I know many people who emigrated to the UK when Poland joined the EU and were able to kickstart their careers there. They earned money and later returned to start businesses here. Reflecting on my own professional career, I have worked for multiple UK companies over the years, and I still work remotely for one today. Stay strong, UK-you will bounce back!
@xlogic123 Thankyou. Plus the Uk open it's doors for the Polish in 2004 when some wealthy eu countries would not. The UK is not for everyone and many will return to their land of birth in Europe. But we brits love the Polish and we know they gave so much to the Uk.
Niestety sa zawsze dwie strony monety, 1 na 10 sie cos dorobil, a 9 zostalo pozartych przez zachodni swiat ;) no ale jeden sie wybil XD.... Uwielbiam mowienie o tych "bogaczach", gdy zapomina sie o tych biednych i zniszczonych przez obce nam kraje, pozdro z NL....
Jesteś wdzięczny UK za to, że ukradli polskie złoto po 2 wojnie światowej? I że izolowali nas politycznie i wykorzystywali Polaków do pracy której brytyjczcy nie chcieli wykonywać? Potrzebujesz terapii i, bo masz syndrom sztolhomski
I’m Hungarian but I’m leaving. When I came here many years ago, the UK was dynamic, most of my friends were either Europeans or Australians. I made more money than in Hungary or France (where I was living before coming to London). I didn’t mind the quality of housing, the mediocre food and the rather gloomy weather because London had such an amazing vibe and the positives outweighed the negatives. Fast forward 16 years, salaries are stagnating, prices skyrocketed, taxes have grown and loads of Europeans & Australians left and got replaced by…..different cultures that I am unable to relate to. Streets are less safe and the London nightlife is nonexistent. I’m sure London will flourish one day but I think its best days are behind us for now.
Exactly, the weather is awful. There has to be a REASON to live in the uk e.g. better quality of life. Without a better quality of life why would ANYONE stay there? It's not like the uk is a tropical paradise.
@@nikonnikiforoff Unfortunately, they now have a lefties government who is planning to build 49 migration centres and accommodate migrants from non-christian backgrounds.
Haven't they already fallen below Poland? When I went to university, a fair number of my classmates were from Poland and were very open about how bad it was there. In the past few years, nearly all of them have returned to Poland and are doing very well there.
Poland has a Human Development index of 0.881. The UK has a HDI of 0.940 so no Britain hasn't fallen behind no matter how many doom mongers claim that it has. Poland has had extraordinary growth post 1991 which is commendable and a great achievement. The overall standard of living in the UK is at the highest its ever been, Rose tinted glasses of the past are the problem here not decline. The 80's and 90's were not some utopia it had high crime and deprivation, lower education rates and university attendance, Higher vehicle fatality rates, Higher pollution and lower standards of living.
@@SRParsonage I think HDI only measures GDP per capita, life expectancy and years of schooling. Check out Sustainable Development Report 2024. It scores 17 different goals, but not GDP. UK is numer 9 in the world, Poland number 10.
@@SRParsonage What does the human development index have to do with anything, this indicator means nothing at all, Poland is many times better than the UK, it is one of the best countries in Europe, and the best country in Europe is the Czech Republic
@@bognagruba7653 The Human Development Index does not and has never taken into account GDP per capita, it takes into account the economic indicator GNI PPP per capita, and these indicators do not mean anything at all about the life of an ordinary person, they do not take into account whether it is easy to get a job, whether it is easy to rent a house, or whether there is a good ratio of prices and wages
I've spent 2 summers in Scotland working as a catering host on a train, aka. trolley dolly. I was based in Aberdeen. I will always be grateful for the open-mindedness, friendliness of the Scottish people and the entire UK for allowing us to just go and do some work and learn the language. It allowed me to have a little money for the semester and boosted my confidence as it let me believe that I can survive on my own outside of my own country. The story similar to mine and a great number of similar ones are shared among polish people. I guarantee that as a nation we wish the UK to do well and overcome any challenges lying ahead.
He asked when? How about 5 year ago? If you are talking about Living Standards, Poland had overtaken UK long years ago. If you look at GDP, then there is still some catching up to do, but then since when does GDP got to do with people life?
Over the last twenty years, I travelled between Poland and the UK a dozen times each year. I can tell you that those statistics are meaningless to me. The standard of living in Poland is already higher than in the UK!
@@rbxrockettrio8650@rbxrockettrio8650 Housing and other living expenses are still relatively affordable in Poland, and the minimum wage is quite high. Also, education and healthcare are generally free, so even lower-income families can send children to uni, etc. Keep in mind that all those things seem already better in Poland. Modern housing in Poland is light years ahead of the UK regarding quality and technology. When you spend a bit of time in a modern house or apartment building in Poland and then go back, you realise how medieval the technology employed in the UK is.
@@rbxrockettrio8650 Most of the low earners in Poland are the people in their 50ties coming from the small towns. Their main advantage over UKs is that most of them owns their houses or flats. People in their 30-40ties are usually middle class (well educated, owning their house or flat, having multiple cars). Most of house rentiers are guys in their 20ties starting career and starting living on their own.
Remember when 15 years ago I've first moved in it was border line embarrassing to say You're coming from Poland...English people was looking down on us because of accent for them We were portrayed as dumb but in reality it was our second language and most of brits don't even now English properly😂 Now it's not the case anymore, personally I do think Poland is a better place to live than vast majority of UK because of modern infrastructure, all round tidyness and efficiency of services I would add as well choice in the shops. You go to any builders merchants or even supermarkets and You have got nearly whatever You want as an option and here its either cheap, mid range or expensive and that's with everything 🤷
The British people I knew were at least partly annoyed with some many Polish people because they never voted for 1 million new people to come over and compete for jobs, housing, public services etc. It's unfortunate if Polish people got the blunt end of that but blame the politicians who lied and ignored the people who elected them, as they 'rubbed the right's nose in diversity.'
@@SirKenchalot I completely understand what You are saying but on the flip side We came in when the British economy was booming and unemployment for people who actually wanted to find work was non existent especially that many people speak 0 English and was able to make a living and even save or send money to family for bills ect.
I learnt French and Japanese but would never have the sheer arrogance to suggest I spoke better than a native, especially with your level. You wonder why with your entitlement, people didn't want you here. Sadly there's good and bad people everywhere I know a lot of nice Poles here.
I totally agree, the stigma that was attached to Polish people (and others from other eastern european countries) was ridiculous. I also agree that Poland is far more developed now than the UK barring London. I actually live here in your second city and its the most comfortable living. No chance I will return to the UK anytime soon.
Lol no, not true. You walked around central Krakow and you feel like ypu know Poland. There are lots of problems in Poland. Same problems like in the UK, minus the migrants
@@kordelas2514 mozna tez podzielic np. na 7 czesci i bawic sie dalej w bezsensowne nazwnictwo. Jest europa wschodnia i zachodnia. historycznie i kulturowo ma to najwiekszy sens. A czy wschodnia konczy sie z Bugiem, Dnieprem czy Uralem to juz inna dyskusja.
@@mz5805 Europe wschodnią i zachodnią to też można uznać za bezsensowne nazewnictwo wg twojej logiki. W praktyce stosuje się podział Europy na zachodnią, środkową (Central Europe), wschodnią, północną i południową. Nie należy tego mylić z politycznym podziałem Europy w przeszłości na blok zachodni i blok wschodni. Kulturalny i historyczny podział to już kwestia arbitralna.
Coming to the uk to study from Poland and not leaving the country when I could is one of my big regrets. Would already have multiple properties and pay 9 percent tax instead of almost 50 in the uk. The standards of living in Poland are higher than in the uk. Actually young people in the uk are much poorer than those in Poland, living in rented rooms until they are 40 and earning enough money just to pay for that room, sturbucks coffee and maybe cheap holidays once a year. Yet many British still look down on us in their dump rented rooms believing that they are “rich”. Undoubtedly Britain has a great history and was once the most powerful country but it’s long gone now, once playing in the same league with USA now it’s being surpassed by Eastern European countries. And what they do? Increase taxes even further 😂 and I don’t say that with satisfaction, but with sadness and regret. Living in the uk is like being stuck on the first gear - the salaries are low but even if you make it you are taxed so much that it’s not worth the effort. Combine this with astronomical costs of living and you get the perfect storm.
Even earning £60k/yr, I found myself having to tighten my belt at times because rents are so high. It's ridiculous. Britain is no longer the place to be unless you can get a job in finance.
Just wait; there will be a Polish Labour party there soon that will try to ruin everything you're enjoying so much now just like the left wing in the UK did, and now the US is going into decline too. Enjoy it while it lasts and if you're really smart, you'll learn what the previously successful countries did and how to avoid the same trap, not for the smug satisfaction but because you love your country and your people too much to let it happen to them too.
It's all because you and I have stolen all the good jobs from the native Brits! 😅 After The People Have Spoken (in the Referendum) I realised how bad I was, and left. Now every chav can get my old job (Senior Software Engineer), but somehow they don't hurry to do so, missing my taxes, which were enough to sustain a big jolly chav family. 😅
I did it! I work for a tech company here and I actually earn more than I would in the UK (barring london). The quality of life is brilliant, the people are very welcoming and accommodating and its a very very safe place.
I’m Polish and returned back from Singapore after 8 years abroad. I found a great job for my experience and specialization (building IT infrastructure management software), not available anywhere else. Quality of life is high, economy is healthy and level of digitalization is one of best in the world. I cannot imagine a better place for me right now. I spent two weeks traveling across UK back in June and I find little to no differences between UK and Poland, except the first one being more expensive. Just that work wise, it’s hard to find an interesting work or often any work at all. Because of that, many of my friends in UK don’t work, so with this attitude, tables can turn sooner.
I would say that no-nonsense Polish govt vis-a-vis welfare state & high-tax UK govt are doomed to different paths, with the former emerging and the latter stagnant.
My father in law was Polish. My son once told me my wife and he and my other children may be eligible for a Polish Passport by ancestry. With increasing UK government criminality corruption and incompetence Poland looks an attractive place to retire. I have a company pension to look forward to and own property and stocks and shares. The inheritance tax threshold is higher and taxes are lower and there would be plenty of job opportunities for my children two of them being Civil Engineering apprentices
I obtained citizenship through my grandparents 3 years ago and live in Poland. I would recommend Lexmotion. Yes your wife and children would be eligible as they are blood descendants of your father-in-law.
Poles are great workers and good people. I am glad to know that their country is doing so well. As an Italian, I struggle to understand why they continue to stay in Italy, a country that has no future. Probably the exchange rate with the euro is still convenient, but I have strong doubts that if we measured purchasing power, Italy would be better than Poland.
The weather is better and the sea is warm in summer and Italian ice cream is the best in the world and the incrediable Italian food and culture are speaking for BELLA ITALIA.
My Polish husband worked in England for 5 months in 2007. He was surprised, how British economy could even function with the native workers being so slow and inefficient. His English boss was like "Don't you Poles teach us capitalism'. Do they even remember that they gave their ally to Stalin and that it took us 45 years to break free?
We didn't give Poland to Stalin because it was not ours to give in the first place. Stalin invaded Poland initially in 1939 after Britain and France (which had secretly helped Hitler rise to power) refused to enter into an alliance that might have put a break on German expansionism, forcing Stalin to seek to create a buffer zone. Then he invaded Poland again during a war that Britain and France had no small part in causing in which Russia, to get to Germany, had to pass through. In both cases Russia was acting in its own best interests. Then consider the USA went and created a totally unnecessary cold war by threatening Russia with NATO and a re-armed Germany to the point of Stalin having to create yet another buffer zone in the form of the Warsaw Pact. And after a series of colour revolutions orchestrated by the West that saw the rapid expansion of NATO and the EU (both American dominated institutions hostile to Russia) throughout Eastern Europe and moving the American empire, an empire that had spent the last 75 years trying to destroy it, right up to its borders, created a hostile fascist state right next door that once more posed an existential threat to the country. Perhaps you'd have been better off under Hitler. I'm sure under his version of corporatism you Poles would have had plenty of opportunities to serve as _gasterbeiter._ Western Europe (capitalism's imperial core) exploits eastern Europe for the benefit of its parasitical, rentier, debt-ridden economic system, cheap Polish labour being just one of many advantages of being Western.
@@view1st Polish army has been protecting Britain and fighting alongside allies. They were promised freedom for their country after the war. They were not only sold to Stalin, they were not even invited to the victory parade as if they never existed. We learned the hard way, we have no allies. That is why many watch with satisfaction as the western europe falls apart.
@@piotrjasielski Did the Poles seriously expected the depleted British military to take on the victorious Soviet armies (numbering 10 million by 1945) for the sake of Poland? What happened is the only thing that could happen considering the circumstances.
@@bortstanson2034 We did expect not to be sold to Stalin, the right deal could have been made. Because we keep our promises no matter the cost, which we've shown during the war and we expected that from others. Thanks to west cowardiance in in 1938 and 1939 then in 1945, we got WWII and the cold war. This could have been nipped in the bud if your leaders had the courage.
There is another, very touchy topic that is nonetheless relevant: Poland still experiences monoculture. People in Poland are a community purely by virtue of being Polish at heart. It is an absolute joy to just be there among the people, in the malls, in the cities, on the playgrounds (I have kids), in the elevator, everywhere. The UK, like many other Western European countries, successfully managed to destroy that very basic, very essential fabric of society through decades massmigration of people from hostile cultures, and shaming the British for questioning these policies.
Yes, you are seeing the UK as a prime example of what happens when you "over" diversify and you allow far too much immigration and from persons who have little in common with the previously homogenous culture. In Poland they are still very much homogenous and maintain their culture and traditions and seem on the whole to be very proud of their country and its rise in living standards.
Same in the Netherlands. Mass-immigration was (still partly is) not to be questioned or discussed, with severe social consequences if you did. And thus put upon us in a partly non-democratic way.
@@Intel-i7-9700k It destroying all Western European nations. And as you said you can not question or discuss such policy without repercussions. Free and democratic, not so sure...
I’m a Londoner living in Poland since 2017. Since Brexit the UK has become horrible. It’s a great country but destroyed by the government. I’m very glad I moved to Poland just wish I’d done it sooner. Very sad what’s happening to the UK.
Living in Serbia, Poland's economy is a huge inspiration for us. Back in the days Yugoslavia was ahead of many eastern communist countries due to the relatively liberal economic policies. Today Serbia is unfortunately lagging behind Poland and receiving little money from EU funds, as well as facing several obstacles in terms of industry and transport.
@@okuratwarmianski7993 My advice for you is to watch less western mainstream media. Serbian people will NEVER turn their backs on Russia. We were attacked three times during the last century, and every time it was coming from the west. Russian resources are the future of the planet btw.
@@bingo737 I know history, I know what happens to a country when Russia gets its hands on it. Maybe if they weren't such bastards, people would be more willing to cooperate with them. Now they have Kim Jong-un, it's definitely cooperation that aims to improve the quality of life 😂😂
@@okuratwarmianski7993 If you knew history you would understand what Serbia has to go through. Western "allies" have literally occupied a fifth of our territory, yet they tell us we need to impose sanctions on Russia. Insane what it happening in the world of cowards and biased media. Our economy is also very dependant on russian gas and will remain so for at least 30 years more, if not forever. So EU bureocrats should definetly keep their fingers out of Serbia and stop threatening us.
Just came back from Poland, from a holiday. You might hate me for it, but in comparison UK feels like a 3rd world country. In Poland roads are better, better food, better houses, better people even, UK feels cramped and claustrophobic. Constant fight over parking spaces everywhere. Not to mention better climate, without constant rain. Yes, might move over there.
I met many Polish people over the years and they were all the nicest, friendliest, hard working people who integrated into our society. That sort of immigration is what all countries want. Sadly those days are long gone here in the UK, the only migration we get now are people from third world countries, legal and illegal. We have millions of immigrants who are on benefits and hardly integrate into society. It’s no wonder there is no growth in the UK, we are skint because of benefits and providing for people claiming asylum. We have a million people right now in the UK claiming asylum. There is no end in sight to this, the government are doing nothing to stop or prevent it. All we have here is cuts, cuts and more cuts. We pay enormous taxes and yet see so little improvement in anything. What a mess politicians have made of our country.
It was our biggest downfall, no family values also mean chaos in dating for our youth, and replaced by feminist solipsism, egocentrism and inability to settle down for the avg family life
And same issue is face here in northern europe where I am from, it is a crime what has happened to our sons and daughters. Both will be unhappy and alone yet nobody talks about this at all and the reasons behind. As the older generations still run our countries and hasnt woke up yet
I hope Poland would attain the same level of economic success as West European countries. I might be a little biased because I have a lot of Polish friends but I would say they are super intelligent, hard-working, ambitious, loyal, kind hearted, open-minded, adventurous people I know. It would be a great injustice if they don't succeed.
to say that poland needs success like west countries is an insult to our culture which isnt about prioritising industrialisation and urbanisation. were happy with the nature we have.
It was clear to me when visiting family in Poland as far back as 2017 that living standards and just the state of the urban fabric over there were already better. The condition, cleanliness and safety of their towns, the cultural homogeneity in their society, the work ethic, no visible homelessness or drug addled people in the streets. Every family moving into a plush new apartment or building their own home. Poland is really rising, and it was beautiful to see, remains so, but it's twinged with pain for me, as I've watched the UK decline precipitously in all the decades I've known and visited both countries. Being in the UK, I can't help but feel I'm in a sinking ship most days...
As a Pole who have been living, studying, working and paying taxes in the UK for almost 3 years, I’ve decided to come back to Poland. As a programmer, I’m getting slightly higher salary in the UK, but renting and transport cost were killing me. Year ago I’ve visited my friend who have turned off the heating during the winter, telling me that it’s too expensive to be on all the time. I had to sleep under 2 blankets, and that was the moment I’ve realised I’m not going back there:) Not mentioning that Poland is much more clean and safe. To British professionals: come to Poland, you won’t regret 😊
Hey, don't invite other people over to come and live in Poland. I want Poland to stay affordable for our own people. We still have our problems to fix.
You stating Polish immigrants were 3rd world. Well they certainly came from a very sad country in the beginning, and sent all their money home. This plus UK wage stagnation in the UK since the 90s.
@sitrepSNAFU no, he meant an actual countries called in the past a members of a third world. Today you could call them global south. A lot of them were dependant states during the colonial times. Poland never been a third world country.
@christopherhumphrys7398 Poland do too sadly, there's more and more coming to fill the gap of ageing society. But you need a finite amount of deliverers, takeaway workers and factory workers and with their lack of language and different culture they hardly ever can get education on the level, that allows to work somewhere more sophisticated and specialised.
I'm a Brit, and it was obvious when visiting Eastern Europe that those mfs are much smarter and harder working than us. I've met two Polish women who came to England without knowing the language and got through a degree while learning the language. One did two degrees at the same time. They're much smarter than us. They're women are sexier. Their men are manlier. And they don't have as much of a problem with the aristocracy who have more wealth than the government in the UK, which keeps homes more effordable in Poland.
That is bias. You have met exceptional individuals who took a leap of faith and were strong enough to make such a decision. There are a lot of poles who are not that motivated. It is just the surrondings that forces stronger people to seek succes abroad.
communism was bad in political and economic sense, but few things made decent like schooling system or medical care, it also neglected class division, so we dont have this aristoracy issue like UK, Germany, or France, but class division never was a huge problem in PL, in XVI c. 10% of population had voting rights, they elected kings, it was highest number in Europe that time, they were called slahta (noblemen), some of them were called "golota" (naked - becouse they were so poor) and they even had not have own peasants, reason of this was every generation land was divided among family memebers and got smaller, but still they were slahta by ancestry
in XIX/ XX c. those shlahta became members of inteligentsia class (doctors, teachers, professors, scientists, writers etc) , and first thing what Germans and Soviets did after 1939 was to physically erase this ppl and make Poles dump, as You noticed it did not work well
Here is Indian Hindu, I spent nearly three years in England and couldn’t help but notice the British often treating the Polish with blatant prejudice-sometimes even crossing into outright hostility. But that’s not the main takeaway. The real story here is that I’ve since moved to Poland. Let me tell you, it’s a stunning place: no illegal immigrants, no radical muslim extremism, just pure peace and order. Believe me when I say, Poland is poised to be Europe’s next superpower. Mark my words
Poland has been receiving yearly between 2 and 3% of its GDP from the EU. Every single year in the last 20 years. It is still by far the largest net receiver of EU funds. Also, it is somehow competitive thanks to lower salaries compared to western europe countries. I think it will stabilize as one of the main powers in the EU, maybe it will reach the level of Spain but not much more than that.
@marcoac-sx6lq Without large recognizable companies, and with nonexistent investment in research, the best Poland can do is stabilize as Spain #2 or something similar.
@@marcoac-sx6lq they said exactly the same thing about the Republic of Ireland and now it’s a economic powerhouse and a net contributor to the EU, and this is what the EU is about building up economies unlike the UK which seems to be intent on tearing every economy down including its own.
Poles have fantastic educational system, with good quality schools and free university education; their literacy level is one of the highest in the world. They are smart because learn mostly at least until their mid twenties, graduating from five years of uni with degrees in engineering or computer science. Poland is a hub of international interest because it has great workforce. Poland also invests a lot into public sphere: roads, bridges, trains etc. It fuels the economy further.
Pole here - it already slipped. I lived in UK for two years and RAN AWAY back to Poland. Money wise we have a catch-up still to do, but what is important is safety. Not being afraid to walk anywhere at night, not being afraid of your possessions being stolen. I ran away when Brits voted for Brexit and I hear it is just getting worse and worse now.
I'm a dual citizen, born and raised in London. I live in central Poland and my life is immeasurably better in every way. Poland is already well ahead of the UK in many ways. What cracks me up is Brits still having this bizarre superiority complex and looking down on Poles as if it's still the 1980s, or 'why are there so many Poles coming to the UK?'. Came, Sandra, past tense. The UK has possibly unfixable problems, or at least, problems which will now take decades or possibly the next century to reverse. And no, we don't want you in Poland. You voted for Brexit. You made your bed, now you can lie in it. And if you do find a way of moving here, you cannot get by without learning Polish to at least a B2 level.
48% voted against brexit. Plus, you can not assume ALL leave voters were influenced by immigration. There were tons of reasons as to why people voted leave.
I think the inversion of expenditure @9:24 is so telling. All the investment in buildings has gone into benefits payments and gov rent payments for social housing. The former creates a capital asset that retains value and serves its purpose, the latter is just money down the drain. As this government prepares to raise taxes above those of the post war days, they pull Britain into a doom loop where people reliant on government handouts desperately seek more creative ways of pillaging the dwindling wealth of those too attached to the country to leave. Labour’s message to successful people is clear, “your personal wealth is my deferred tax asset”. The dreaded phrase “asking those with the broadest shoulders to pay more” won’t work forever.
I returned to Poland in 2007 and have moved to Denmark in 2012. I was 14 in 2007, and had little English practice, yet I passed my English GCSEs way above national average. My classmates in a grammar school also seemed to be less focused on school the older they got. The houses were expensive, but cold, tiny and old. Everyone focused on buying stuff, everyone drove new and expensive cars. Stark contrast to the polish economy at the time. But I could sense already, that this consumptive and careless model can't go forever. Moving onto Denmark. Here everyone is saving, reusing, paying high taxes. People are rich, but you'd never know. The only reason you see fancy new cars now is because of the EV transition and economic incentives. The houses are large, well insulated and cheaper than in Poland. I don't think much will change in the UK until more land is freed for new city developments and the property market crashes. Otherwise it's a modern days surfdom. It's really a shame given the depth and colour of the UK history and its impact.
As a native born Englishman we are still a feudal country or rather a colony of monopoly. The so called elite are only interested in bilking the population with high property prices whilst undermining wages through mass immigration of the lowest grade of people. It's hard to get rich and if you see how the present government if you can call it that behaves I am looking to emigrate.
@@bognagruba7653Houses in Poland become very expensive. I’m not familiar with Denmark property market, but I wouldn’t be surprised if similar properties are cheaper there than in Poland.😊
I am a UK national and I chose to retire to Łòdź Poland. It is a beautiful place to live. I took all my money with me and have invested it in property here. The standard of living in Poland is already higher than in the UK. Brexit undoubtably accelerated the trend. Sad but true.
@@weareallbornmad410 I think you may be jumping to a conclusion there. I have purchased a run down apartment, I am renovating it and shall then rent it out at the market value. How is that breaking society? I am supporting society by increasing the supply of decent housing.
@@jimfreestone3119 You're preparing to be a landlord. You bought an appartment on credit, and when you rent it, the people living there will be the ones paying off that loan - not for themselves, but for you. It's a pyramid scheme. Meanwhile, there is one less appartment on the market, and prices for buyers that actually _need_ an appartment to live in go up. Most young people in Poland today will never own their home, and will forever have to wonder what the rent is going to be next time, and if they can't afford it and have to move, will there be any place they _can_ afford or are they going to go homeless. That's because rich people like yourself buy out appartments and make them unavailable for anything but paying off their loans. You are part of this process.
@@weareallbornmad410 It seems you may be imagining my situation without understanding my initial post. I bought the apartment with my money (as a retirement income). I am renovating it and am therefore only adding to the market stock, which would be reducing the overall cost to the customer. The apartment is already part of an expensive apartment block, so my effort is restoring what was previously there. I wonder if you are comparing Poland with the UK where investors do drive up property prices as does government tax policy as the economy substantially relies on house prices rising. The tax system in Poland prevents people profiting from short term investment, the situation here is therefore very different. I am a long term investor and my wealth is only helping Poland.
Having lived in London for a while and having visited the UK a few times over the span of a few decades, I feel really sorry for the British. They let in a lot of migrants from, ahem, 'different' cultures, then they went for Brexit which made life a bit harder for migrants from the same European culture/heritage. So now Poles, Hungarians, Spanish etc. are gone and the UK will probably need to introduce Sharia law in a few years, mandatory burqas for women etc. A place with so much history, a former empire is becoming a third world country.
I moved from Poland to London in 2011. I've been here for 13 years now and coming back crosses my mind from time to time. But London is an amazing city and I like the mentality of Brits, they're very chill, fun and laid-back people - plus I know I would miss London a lot. However, it's becoming more and more dangerous each year. I used to feel safe here, but not until 2 years ago when someone on a bike tried to steal my phone. For the first time after 11 years in London I started feeling unsafe here.
I came back to Poland after 15 years living in the UK, no regret. There is a couple of things better in the UK than in Poland like ISA's limit but it's safer, cleaner etc. Still going to England twice a year to visit friends and look after my properties :)
Here is a slightly different perspective... First, the decline of the UK did not start in the 2000s. The UK was at its peak power sometime in the middle of the 19th century. Since then, it has had nothing but decline, albeit mostly relative, to rising powers like the US and Germany first, Japan, China, and many others later. Second, though this video will please many Polish people, a more analytical view presents a somewhat different picture. Poland's primary role in the EU economy is to be an outsourcer of jobs/industries that more advanced economies, primarily Germany no longer want to do, for reasons due to cost/environment/regulations, etc. The industries range from manufacturing to IT to transportation etc. Due to its stability and nearness to major EU markets, Poland is still a good place to outsource. Poland's reliance on Germany is exceptional, a long and deep recession in Germany will have a major impact on Poland's growth. So what's the problem with being the outsourcer of those jobs? Well, they anchor Poland strictly as a "middle-income country".For a national economy to grow to the "advanced/developed" stage, it must produce highly productive, highly profitable companies/industries on its own. As long as say, the VW headquarters are in Wolfsburg, and diesel engines for those VW cars are produced somewhere in Silesia, the lion's share of wages/profits will go to Wolfsburg, not Silesia. Poland has ZERO home-grown, internationally recognized corporations. Its biggest companies are in the energy sector, which means they don't export much. The biggest Polish company recently listed on the Polish stock market was .... Zabka : a convenience store chain, Also, I wonder what the work ethic in England is like. Here in Poland, few people are truly productive like their counterparts in Germany or the US, not to mention South Korea or Japan. The GDP of Poland per capita is about 1/3rd of that of Germany, and that means that the average Polish worker produces about 1/3 of what the average German does. In the end, I will agree with the author and many commenters - Poland did not create more problems by importing the 3rd World into its borders, and that keeps the country relatively safe and cohesive. Perhaps we don't need to be that rich, as long it's relatively nice here....?
@@lewishowe8349 Yes, something like that. However, each EU member belongs to that organization to gain some benefit: countries like Poland to gain cash, countries like Germany to gain access to new markets and cheaper labor. Last but not least, perhaps countries like Poland may finally pressure the EU to change UE migration rules so half of Africa won't move here...
@@lewishowe8349 There is a fundamental difference between people from European countries like Poland, Czechia, or Romania migrating and settling in the West vs. the African masses. Poles, Czechs, or Romanians look like the English, French, or Germans, and they assimilate quickly and well. OTOH, the 3rd generation of African migrants committed the anti-French, anti-west Charlie Hebo massacre in Paris - they certainly did not "assimilate" that well. Considering that the native Westerners do not want to reproduce at a sufficient rate and the Western countries face depopulation, the West needs some kind of migrants. The question is: from where? I don't know if Britain gained something from EU membership or not, but you are better off with Polish plumbers and builders than Nigerian welfare recipients. Brexit was primarily an anti-migration movement, but it stopped the first migrant category, while the second continues unabated.
Pełna zgoda poza przedostatnim akapitem twojego wywodu - w kwestii doktorów i inżynierów polskojęzyczne POPiS-owe nierządy w ostatnich ok. 5 latach mocno nadrabiają te "braki" w stosunku do Europy Zachodniej. Widać jak na patelni, że Polska nie jest ojczyzną Polaków, o którą walczyli nasi dziadowie i pradziadowie, ale jest po prostu kolonią, w której poprzez zapewnienie taniej siły roboczej oraz szeregu ulg i zwolnień podatkowych a nawet dotacji publicznych na zakładanie filii i zakładów stworzono kolonię, w której zachodnie, amerykańskie koncerny mają maszynkę do robienia kasy. Patrz przykład budowy zakładu przez grupę Elemental Strategic Metals wywodzącą się (przypadek!) z usa w Zawierciu. Sprawdź sobie, ile kasy publicznych dotacji poszło na budowę tego zakładu i cóż on takiego oferuje Polsce...
Real Story: London job: 90k pounds. 3 times in the office Take home pay - 62k cost of living in london - 2k pounds Poland Job 90k euros 1 day a month office Take home pay - 78k euros (B2B contract 12% tax + small social) cost of living in warsaw - 1.1k euros Im Portuguese, and this is a real comparison i had in my hands last year. Poland already wins
This calculation seems a bit off. With b2b and this income, the social contribution alone is at least around 700 eur per month (and increases every year because it’s based on the national minimum wage), so a more realistic annual estimate would be closer to 72k. Also, keep in mind that b2b contracts are typically used by freelancers, meaning you aren't paid for days off or bank holidays. You'll also need to handle monthly bureaucratic tasks like tax declarations, or hire an accountant - though that adds extra costs. Additionally, you aren’t protected by labor law, and pension benefits are generally not included. Finally, remember that b2b isn’t for everyone, and the tax rate can vary depending on the type of economic activity, so it may be higher or lower than 12%.
@@TheMrBater yes, all you said is true. I didnt mention the SS payments, just by itself would be an extra 2k, so would be around the number you said. Plus, yes you would pay extra socials, in my case to Portugal as citizen, to have a good pension. You are protect in a few months, but you can let go, but given the market, is always a great deal
Inflation of 18% is a story from almost two years ago. At the beginning of 2024, it was around 2% and has now risen to 4.9%. The increase is due to the end of subsidised energy prices and the return of VAT rates on food to pre-COVID levels.
You mean living standards between London and Poland. UK is a rich country of poor people; any investment and progress is seen in London, the rest of the UK is far, far behind Europe and Poland.
For someone who returned back to PL the main reason was family ties and the declining standard of living in terms of the disposable income and safety. At some point we were simply better off paying off the mortgage back home and living mortgage free with lower income than taking on a 30 year mortgage in the UK just to have a home. London has the jobs but also crippling living costs. Safety was also a factor…
I'm third generation Polish here in the US, with a very Polish last name, and absolutely feel i have been discriminated against throughout my professional career and society in general. It's nothing new for us, for me, it's expected. Just shrug it off and move on!! Ive been hearing all the Stupid comments/jokes my entire life!
It's funny how sensitive and delicate US has become regarding minorities because of all of the backlash companies and people get when saying something remotley disrespectful. And yet polish diaspora in us is substantial but we never complained about those polish jokes. Makes you think innit?
Polish young adult here, here to paint a more accurate picture of what it’s really like to live in Poland compared to more Western economies. As much as I love Poland and wish it well, I can’t say I have any optimism with regards to it’s future growth (I am Polish, childhood in Poland, teenage years in Australia, currently living in Poland while studying online in Aus). Poland simply does not have the tools to deal with the challenges facing western economies at the moment. It is beset on all sides by foreign lobbying and aggressive foreign interest with a track record of bending under the pressure. The recently released demographic reports paint a truly tragic situation. The retirement pay system is already over burdened and with every year it is only getting worse. Every year the government finds new ways to pass the burden off to workers which impacts the youngest people on the market the most. In many ways it’s a preview of the things to come for all western economies unless the situation changes. The Polish state has no resource wealth with which it could offset this cost unlike places like Australia, the USA or for eg. Norway. Westerners hear about the gdp growth, the safety and the cleanliness and imagine a wonderful life while not realising how hard it is for most but especially young people to live let alone grow wealthy and actually benefit from the growing economy. Poland is number one for real estate price growth in all of the EU since the beginning of the decade. Apartments in which you might fit a family in cities cost approx 700,000zł while the average wage is something like 6000zł net (Very few young people manage to make that). With two people on above average incomes, this is doable but forget about ever doing it yourself unless you are in an extremely fortunate position considering the fact that your rent will probably be somewhere around 3000zł+. In short, most young people are struggling to have any disposable income at all and this is and has been only getting worse. Unfortunately, it looks like it will stay that way because Poland really has no tools to deal with the current challenges. The Polish government, for the last 3 decades has been actively promoting foreign corporations to establish themselves in Poland which for a time was fantastic for the country. However now, under pressure from foreign lobbyists, these corporations keep getting extremely favourable conditions while Polish businesses and entrepreneurs keep getting roadblocks put in their way. InPost, a huge Polish courier and delivery company has recently been successful in both Polish and foreign markets. Some data recently came out that this company paid 250 million złoty in tax while DHL and DPD (German and French) paid something like 1 million and 50 million złoty while having similar or even larger revenue in the year. I love Poland dearly but if you go to Western economies that have been functioning as free markets for many more years, you can see the differences extremely clearly. That being said, Polish people still have insecurities when comparing themselves to other Western people so if you come here you will feel very welcome and safe and have a lot of fun. Keep in mind however that your experience, news headlines of gdp growth and recent propaganda in no way reflect the day to day reality of a country still desperately trying to imitate and grow into the “free world”.
from my perspective, living conditions in the UK have always been worse than in Poland. I earned better in the UK and there were jobs here. But everything else was worse. Housing conditions, terrible fungus, moisture, construction technologies probably from the Middle Ages. Safety, I guess everyone knows that. Children's education level. Food for people as for cattle. Honestly, only work and its wide availability made it possible to bear it somehow, grit your teeth and wait for the moment when you could get away to Poland and return to normality. And now there are jobs in Poland and the UK is no longer attractive. If you clean up this mess, maybe I'll come back here someday, but for now. Cheerio!
Hey -- a Pole living in the UK (for over 8 years) here. Although the number may look good (and let's be honest -- the streets are cleaner, towns are more modern, and generally the living standards are way better in Poland now), people are still struggling when it comes to housing. Example -- I studied in Poland 15 years ago, my brother graduated uni this year. The amount of gymnastics he had to do in the last years to be able to rent a room is ridiculous comparing to my situation at that time (cost of a room is 3 times higher now in a smaller town). Also, in the UK -- at least in the North -- a person earning the minimum wage is able to rent a flat on their own (nothing crazy and not in the centre, but STILL), same with being able to afford a small mortgage. In Poland, even in smaller towns, you would NOT be able to rent anything than a room on your own, even working couples struggle with renting small 1 bedroom flats. It's not all sunshine and rainbows -- I know that this is not what the video meant, but this is how it may be perceived. That being said -- now in the UK I have to work 2 jobs (mid-senior + self employed) to be able to afford something more than just mortgage and bills.
The UK shouldn't worry about Polish people leaving, and it having a bad effect on their economy. Luckily, they have imported millions of workers and engineers from 3rd world countries like India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. I'm sure they'll fill out the gaps and make the UK a prosperous and safe nation again!
Many gardens and front of the houses in the UK looks like scrap yards, and pay attention at the windows when walk along the streets the curtains looks so dirty and you won't find dirty old matres or furniture on Polish streets
My wife is Polish and we travel many times per year to Poznan, its my intention to retire in Poland as the quality of life is better, while prices have certainly increased property prices are much more affordable and my pension will go much further. Poznan is a similar size city to Manchester but feels much safer, public transport is fantastic and cheap, great choice of pubs and restaurants at half uk prices.
I work with quite a lot of Polish people and over the years quite a few have already returned to Poland. From what I understand the economy, living standards are already higher that the UK. House prices are another reason. Those that have returned home have no interest in returning.
Left UK in 2020 after 16 years. Living standard in the UK is very low, young people are not able to afford even small flat, how they supposed to start a family etc.
As a Pole who has lived in the UK for 20 years, I see that the UK is becoming a minimum wage country with high bills to pay. Government support the people on benefits. Free house if you can't afford and do not work. Free money every month if you do not work. Where it's the support for hard working class people on low income? Feel sorry for UK was one of the best country in Europe...
In my town there are literally no properties to rent, don’t even bother adding your name to the local council’s housing waiting list. Because demand is so high the landlords can charge top whack. But interestingly, a whole new estate was built and all homes given to asylum seekers. Very nice houses they are too and they get their rent and council tax fully covered. You can see why so many want to come to Britain. And it’s no surprise to see Italy having the same struggles, they have the same problems to us.
Having a Cypriot friend who owns multiple hotels in Protaras in Cyprus, 50% of his clients at his all inclusive hotels are polish and now 40% British ,whereas a decade ago he had 95% British
That statistic of Polish wages surpassing the literal UK in 2034 is crazy. Though I will say once I was looking up application for UK deindustrialisation for A level economics and as of Sept 2024 there was an increase in the UK manufacturing sector for a 26 months streak.
The difference about polish migrants is that we coming out of country for work. A lot of arabic and africa population came to get benefits. It's the correlation of incoming population to uk and reverse effect for economy in UK.
I am living in the UK 12 years. When moved in, in Poland was very low income, I did struggle. When moved in to UK, this country gave opportunities as not experienced in anything young man. Now I have very good income here(was until 2022) Now all is changed. During this 12 years Poland was growing, new infrastructure, Polish people build theirs houses etc. UK shut 50% of small businesses, zero innovation, zero infrastructure improvements, stagnation in wages, immigration from Middle East etc, all this led to UK is very poor country compared to Poland. Look at the UK houses, people don’t invest at all. A lot of foreigners just already left UK, because other countries are much better. In UK British people will leave only with Middle East immigrants soon. This is the truth.
This seemed true even 10 years ago. I also visited Gdansk a few years ago and it was modern and developed. The airport was new, the roads to and from were modern. A respect for heritage buildings and regeneration. The centre was clean and developed. The UK is a poor country with poor services, infrastructure/high inequality masquerading as a g7
When you said at the end levels of inequality may be the same between Poland and the U.K., absolutely not. The U.K. still has a class system which Poland has long abolished. It is possible In Poland to go from poor to being considered upper class, in the U.K. good luck with that, they even consider doctors middle class unless they went to the correct private schools and universities with the correct family history
If we compare only selected economic data, the trends are very optimistic for Poland and not very optimistic for the UK. Unfortunately, in general terms this is nonsense, when, for example, we consider the topic of the innovative economy, the trends are already breaking down, and when we realize that Poland has been borrowing three times more than the UK every year for 10 years, and in a few years it will become a net payer to the EU, we are closer to to the vision of the Greek crisis than to be ahead of anyone in terms of living conditions...
I lived in London on skilled worker visa for 1 year before returning to the EU (not Poland). The project turned out to be terrible, company culture toxic so I resigned, took all the money I earned and left.
This is exactly what happens in their businesses they report each other to their bosses they destroy each other,no one wants to work properly and everyone just plays games this is all sick they behave like snakes
@@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k I don't want to generalise but in the company I worked at it wasn't too far from what you say. I had a pretty decent salary in the top 3% in the UK. It wasn't just me leaving, others followed after me.
@@ChristianoRodríguez-h3khave seen something similar in an engineering corporation, very toxic environment, talking behind back of colleagues was the first thing to do, instead of doing work!
I will say that Poland is wealthy country with high wages when I see British electricians and plumbers working in Poland and German workers picking up strawberries in Polish farms
Sorry, hahahaha, but I just can't imagine a british electrican or plumer working in Poland. No one would pay for the job done with british "quality". Hahahaha, You made my day bro!
I returned to PL in 2020 after 8 great years in UK i was studying and working there, im very grateful for that opportunity. It was good back then, i still have some friends and family whom I visit often, and when i see and hear how the life is in UK im happy i made that decision to return to PL. For me the biggest cons of living in the UK are that starting fanily in UK is so difficult and expensive the nursery cost 1200+£ per month are crazy imagin u having two samll children... prices of house and the quality/standards they are made of its like from 3rd world countries. Crimes, i dont need to explain but everyone knows what crime rates are, stabbings, stealing etc. The government spends money fighting the facebook 'criminals' under the hate speech agenda instead of investing money in police that should be on the streets fighting the real criminals. Next is a free speech. u can't express freely ur views unless they fit the official narrative, or else u will lose a job or have issue at school/uni.. Did u know there is almost 10 times more facebook criminals charges in UK than it is in oppressed russia? Next, people in the UK, especially the younger generation, have not been teached core values and morality. It's a blame culture. Nothing is your fault. Everything is someone else's or system fault. No one is teaching self reflecting and improving yourself. This is a big issue if u explore that topic deep enough. There is much more like healthcare, access to facilities, etc. Poland still has a lot of issues. It's not a perfect country, but at least i can see that it is improving where in UK after the 2008 crisis, it just stopped developing, and it stagnated. I really wish and hope our friends from the UK will change the course of the UK and be a back on truck to improve and develop so we all could benefit from prosperity. Have a nice day chaps
The most disturbing thing about UK's decline is the criminal difficulty in getting a simple face to face doctor's appointment where it can take up to 6 weeks. The public transport, education quality, welfare provision standards and supermarket food prices are also disgusting.
@@DoctorCongoChronicles 3-6 months is Polish average time when you want to go to a specialist. Of course you can pay and go private, but why are we paying taxes then?
@@Just_another_Euro_dudeEurope, my friend, is a history of wars, massacres, and conflicts. I love the civilization of the British Isles, and I also love the history of Ireland, Wales, and Scotland. There is something incredibly beautiful there. However, I fear that if the history of wars (England didn’t conquer half the world with a kind heart) continues to divide as we often see, sooner or later, the most recognizable building in your countries will be a mosque
@@paweszczepaniak8238 I share your feelings. i love this island and even as a Pole I feel a bond with it. It's a shame that so many english ppl today don't care about anthing and are fighting against their own country
It appears that the economic situation in the UK is changing in the direction that unemployed immigrants will be forced to go to work. In Poland, benefits and social assistance are so low that they are only enough to survive. Living at a decent standard in Poland is unfortunately hard work. A lot of work.
I'm sure I read that Poland's economy was growing strongly, and it sure looks a friendly vibrant place to live. It must be so nice to be somewhere that's optimistic with a sane political agenda.
It is great here. Imagine nice clean cities, low crime rates, little illegal migration. Services that work and if you are a skilled person (like myself) then you can get a better salary here than you can in much of the UK. Also the cost of living is lower, council tax? nope, TV licence? nope.
@@christophermarshall527 I believe so, but either way its just another random money grab from the people which in turn reduces the personal wealth and standard of living of the average brit.
@@jonkisby4871 You might be surprised, but you are required to pay for TV licence in Poland. It's your responsibility to declare that you have a TV (or TVs). Although, in reality, many people don't pay for it as there isn't an effective procedure put in place to force them to do it. A postman might come to your house one day and ask you to let them in so that they can check if you have a TV. You obviously aren't required to let them in, and they can't force you to. So, ultimately it becomes your choice whether you want to be fined for not paying for it or not.
@@youlol7331 Interesting, so its almost like they tried it and it failed and now they don't bother to enforce it. I just saw 65% no compliance rate in Poland, thats the spirit! I think the UK people should do the same and stop paying it.
Comment from Poland: It depends what one compares with what. Warsaw and some major cities already have better living standards (and very good salaries) than large swathes of the UK, but the UK is a very unequal country. North-South, in terms of class, and in other ways. But overall, the living standards over here in Poland are lower as salaries for the majority of the population are still lower.
We Are in Unchartered Financial Waters! every day we encounter challenges that have become the new standard. Although we previously perceived it as a crisis, we now acknowledge it as the new normal and must adapt accordingly. Given the current economic difficulties that the country is experiencing in 2024, how can we enhance our earnings during this period of adjustment? I cannot let my $680,000 savings vanish after putting in so much effort to accumulate them.
Keeping some gold is usually a wise decision. You would be better off keeping away from equities for a bit or, even better, seeking advice from an expert given the current market conditions and everything that is at risk with the current economy.
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we are struggling for space in the UK. it´s mad to add layer upon layer of political arguments - western Europe is also in the same boat as the UK.In Portugal there are too many new patients for clinics etc etc etc.
More on Brexit, which I didn't have time for on my other global economics channel. ua-cam.com/video/C_5sButAi3w/v-deo.html
Do one on Canada as well.
You still going on about Brexit get over it move on grow up.
Don't worry, we will all forever blame Nigel Farage, UKiP and Conservative party for this one.
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@niewazneniewazne1890 as if UK was a booming economy before the BREXIT ?
When the Polish complain about British migrants, that'll be the day.
I've heard complaints about British tourists in Kraków.
@@bognagruba7653that’s not new!
Right wing views are not wholly owned by white western countries.
Regarding the Uk I’ve found some of the strongest views on immigration coming from first generation immigrants.
Although the situation is massively exaggerated to sell newspapers. Does the majority of people really believe illegal immigration is a new thing or started when the channel tunnel was built.
Humans - and their bitching - doesn’t really change. History repeats.
On which note - it is only a matter of time before Polish workers expect the same protections and privileges as UK workers - else they’ll have massive inequality and suffering like those other pro business countries (US for example)
I don't think most Brits would survive a day at work in Poland.
That will never happen, no idea why do Easterners with their poor demography imagine like they're the future superpower of the Western world? Same applies to Russia, some political bloggers also imagine how Germans and Brits will come to superrich Russians and they will laugh at them. No way, with our miserable nominal gdps of 15-25 k compared to their 55-65 k.
as a Polish person it stressess me out, everytime in history we are getting back on our feet and experiancing some kind of success local powers attack us or destabilize our country in some way and we go into huge crisis. We must be extremely vigilant now not to repeat mistakes from the past 😬
Right wing Germany and Nationalistic Russian Federation 🙃
😂😂😂😂 they are called royal family
@@understanding.everythingWhat part of Polish "local powers" is the BRF?
Tusk will federalize you and will decouple from US to create an european army.
@@LathropLdST"Polish" politicians. They're clearly an foreign agents...
I went to Poland in May this year and I can personally say we are already far far behind Poland on living standards. while we may earn more money that doesn't mean a thing when Poland have a clean, safe and functioning country. I no longer feel safe in the UK, the place is a dump and everything is broken or only barely holding on despite all of the money we supposedly spend. I imagine corruption and the crippling burden of the unemployed, supporting immigrants and excessive benefits are the cause.
It just shows what a lie GDP is. We have always been *officially* richer than Spain & portugal, and yet every airport, bus station, & major road in those countries is far better quality than the rubbish in the UK.
People call the italians corrupt, but given the standard the govts preferred contractors in the UK (who all happen to be the tories - maybe labour too - biggest donors) operate at, you have to wonder.
in the UK, earnings are not higher than in Poland
@@m1kus960 7000 pln average wage is like minimum wage in UK please check your data
And you can't go back to exploiting colonies...
@@Brick_dont_hit_backso what? Check buying power
I told my polish colleague he would be better off returning to Poland and investing there because there would be better opportunities in his homeland if the UK economy faced a financial crisis, that was in 2007! He looked at me like I was crazy...I heard he went back around 2012. Hope life is good back there my friend.
I worked with a few Polish guys and most have returned to their home country.
You have no ISAs, 19% gains tax, weak currency buying force and it's just from the top of my head. The way people treat each other is awful, a lot of envy and directness nobody asks for.
It's going to be a decade next year since I left and it was the best decision I could make.
Before any commitment, do your own research, visit and live for few months at least, not as a tourist.
Don't be fooled, as grass is always greener on the other side.
@ForWhomBellstols I really wish I could leave. I'd rather die than live here for the rest of my life. I hate it here so much.
@@davidyoung9561 because their girlfriends escaped to local guys?
@@maciejfratczak4136 I'm British and I married one of them..!
I look forward to the success of Poland, I hope that it will soon be at the very top of the world economy and that it will become the strongest Slavic country. Big greetings to the Polish people from Montenegro.
I visit Montenegro last summer and I have to say I never been in the more beautiful european country before. And those girls are just simple angels !
I love Montenegro, greets for you all !
@adamsompolinski7728 Thank you, you are always welcome !
I hope Montenegro will join the EU soon and become my favorite summer destination. I've been there twice and I have to admit that it's a small but incredibly beautiful and appealing country :)
Czarnogóra is such a beautiful country..... thx man but i don't think so. Each time we get on our feet something, someone or we ourselves are fckn everything up. :(
Germany won't allow it.
I'm a civil engineer from Norway. Since 2020, we have lost like 1/4 (maybe even 2/3) of polish workers in a building industry. I spoke with some guys, and they explained to me that even though wages in Poland are lower than in Norway, they have a better quality of life there. Many of them own apartments and houses, so no costs related to rent or bank loan. Grocery is cheaper. And huge plus is that they are surrounded by their own... family, friends. There is no need to lear a new language. So diference in wages doesn't play that big deal for them when you take all in account.
Plus, the Norwegian krone has lost 23% of its value against the euro over the last five years.
This means that a salary of 25,000-28,000-30,000 kroner after tax is no longer equivalent to €2,500, €2,800, or €3,000, but rather €2,100, €2,350, and €2,520. People simply don’t want to work outside their home countries for that kind of money anymore.
Salaries in Poland are lower than in Norway, but prices are also many times lower, if you take into account prices and salaries, then in Poland the earnings are about the same as in Norway, or even higher, Poland is one of the best countries in Europe, and the best country is the Czech Republic
people won't really complain about the low wage if the cost of living is lower everyone can live a luxurious or comfortable life next to good safety and security.
Norway has highest wages in the world. I only heard complaints about racism.
@@roberttwardowski9711 nah, no racism... we hate everyone equally. 😅
@@roberttwardowski9711 Norway has the most expensive prices in the world, which is why we have such a salary
I've been to Poland a few times and can't imagine why a Pole would still want to live in the UK.
That’s why since 2016 Poland has more comebacks than leaves. In recent times it’s a lot more comebacks. Not only from
The UK.
I can’t understand it either Poles should appreciate their own great country more
Living and working in Poland is something else than coming for a long weekend to Cracow with a big bag of money
@@frederickmuhlbauer9477 Unfortunately, we were raised with a sense of inferiority towards the West, while people living in the West felt a sense of superiority towards us. Therefore, when we went to work for you, we often tolerated even scandalous treatment. And that mentality has stayed with us to this day.
Poles are convinced that it is expensive in Poland (it is more expensive than it used to be, but still cheaper than in the West). Often, we have no idea about foreign salaries. Poles tend to believe that people from the UK or Germany earn 20,000 a month. We often think that we are technologically backward, while our banking system may be one of the most efficient in Europe, and the digitization of public offices is at a top level.
In fact, our salaries are today at the level of Spain. From the poorest country we grew to be a mediocre EU wise, but also 6th biggest economy.
There is still fuckloads to do, but we actually getting there. 10 more years and the gap will be minimal. Let's hope that we won't get involved in a war though, as that would put us 50 years behind again.
@@smakrzi I know quite a free Poles living in Warsaw who are doing very well
Hi. Half-Polish, born and raised in the UK. I just got back from visiting family in Poland last week. Whatever the stats say, from my perception, I have to say that living standards are already higher in Poland, qualitatively speaking. Towns and cities are thriving, with a positive vibe. Prices are relatively low, with some critical costs (such as public transport) being particularly affordable. Even down in Silesia, where my family live, everything seems to be thriving. (Silesia is kind of the equivalent of South Wales; history of coal mining and heavy industry, much of which has declined or shut down in recent years, with associated negative social impact).
I have to say the Polish economy is underpinned by a very strong work ethic and rock-solid family values, both of which seem to be sadly lacking in the UK just now.
Strong work ethic and rock-solid family values were core British values and now destroyed thanks to left wing subversion.
Work ethics and family values have significantly declined in the UK, over that last decade. The British mindset is, sadly, one of envy and blaming others, rather than trying to do the best for ones family.
@@0runny I've noticed that work ethics are unchanged in the rural location I'm in, much less to hide behind and ones that don't do well quickly move to the cities. Your opinion of the British mindset is just that, your opinion. There are plenty of hardworking Brits who take personal responsibility very seriously, and have no time for anyone who doesn't. I'd argue that wealth transfer is the debate to have, and why this has occurred.
@@mtrhodesydo you mean the wealth transfer from the British colonies and exploitaion of slave labour?
It's booming because it doesn't have multicultural problems..
Multicultural problems crime/police/jail/benefits are an expensive drain..the more people
get taxed the less disposal income they have to spend. Hence decline
I went to Poland this summer to visit a couple of friends who relocated there a long time ago. It may not be the case statistically, but to all practical intents and purposes I'd say living standards there have already long surpassed the UK. The streets are clean and safe and infrastructure is being built at pace. People are wonderful and friendly and they have a strong sense of ambition. Everyone was working side hustles or doing evening classes with some personal goal in mind. There is a sense of ascendency - things are on the up and up and they feel their efforts are being (or will be) rewarded. Complete polar opposite to the UK where everything is degrading and decaying, and there is a palpable sense of despondency and hopelessness.
There was already a mass emigration from the English Isles to Poland in history. Throughout the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries, about 40 thousand Scots arrived - due to religious persecution. You have Scottish tombstones, old, historical names of districts, e.g. Gdańsk - Stare Szkoty, Nowe Szkoty associated with Scottish emigrants living there. In the 17th century, in the battle of Oliwa, against the Swedes, the deputy commander of the Polish fleet was a Scottish emigrant - James Murray.
nie zapominaj ze Anglia byla polska kolonia przez jakies 150 lat :-)
As a Brit in London I always loved the Poles, they are great family, intelligent, friendly and polite. I wish we had more poles and less of certain "other" people in the UK.
Arabs?
This is exactly what saddens me. We, polish people at least could adjust to the culture, respect UK's... We didn't bring ours and force it on Brits...
It is so sad what's happening to the UK. I have never been there but what I see on some videos makes me wanna go there and help "throw garbage out"...
@@badAim2 I’m not adjusting to nothing
As a Polish person who lived in Manchester for some time I weep over what is happening to your country. You've lovely history, culture, atmosphere and traditions - those were the selling points for me to move there previously, and those exact points are being actively destroyed right now both by your government, politics and the migrants from ... less developped countries. England is being transformed into a garbage dump, and it hurts to see such a previously great country, with deep history, traditions and culture being erased. We will miss you guys.
I dont , but my children were raised here, I dont have family there, sadly. 20 years almost here..
As a Dane who have worked with alot of Polish people in Denmark, i have NOTHING bad to say. The Polish people are smart and hardworking, and they are also friendly and welcoming. I think Denmark and Poland share many views on humanity etc.
Otherwise, what i see is the British are snobbish people, who think they are superior.
If I should choice a new country to live in, and I have England or Poland to chose from, I would take Poland without a blink with my eyes
what I experienced visiting both countries is so that Poland is a country with clean and safe cities with own, polish culture, I really felt safe there and chill. England is the opposite. It is not safe, it is dirty and there is no English culture at all looking around the streets. England is a failed society.
I’m polish and I lived and worked in Denmark for two years- what a great country Denmark is! Tak!
I've been working in Germany, UK and Denmark. Danes are the best. I mean their mentality is cool. Hygge and stuff. A lot of really nice and smart ppl. I feel good in Denmark. Next year I'm goin to visit my friends there and hit some trip to the shelters on the top of Vejle fjord. Few days on the boat and Backyard Burger in Fredericia. That's the plan. Greetings from Poland.
Agree, English feel sort of superiority to others which is difficult to explain where is it coming from (probably colonial times). No one like English abroad on holidays because of their behaviour.
UK is better than Denmark
Been living Poland 5 years now. I visit my family in the UK 2/3 times a year and in my opinion, living standards are already better in Poland. I can get an doctors appointment on the same day I call, I use the NFZ, not private. I can walk all around Warsaw with my GF and feel safe. Especially in the main cities like Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw, Poznan and even Krakow, there is a vastly higher standard of living.
you are britisch ??
Krakow has the highest average wage. It’s 2.7k€ a month, it’s more than in Warsaw but also Prague and Vilnius. Even more than in Eastern region of Germany (except for Berlin)
Youre right
@@KarolSpinda Krakow is higher than Warsaw ? That’s hard to believe
@@papadajnia268 Yep
As a Pole, I can say that Poland's economic prosperity was partially supported by the UK, for which we are grateful. I know many people who emigrated to the UK when Poland joined the EU and were able to kickstart their careers there. They earned money and later returned to start businesses here. Reflecting on my own professional career, I have worked for multiple UK companies over the years, and I still work remotely for one today. Stay strong, UK-you will bounce back!
@xlogic123 Thankyou. Plus the Uk open it's doors for the Polish in 2004 when some wealthy eu countries would not. The UK is not for everyone and many will return to their land of birth in Europe. But we brits love the Polish and we know they gave so much to the Uk.
Niestety sa zawsze dwie strony monety, 1 na 10 sie cos dorobil, a 9 zostalo pozartych przez zachodni swiat ;) no ale jeden sie wybil XD.... Uwielbiam mowienie o tych "bogaczach", gdy zapomina sie o tych biednych i zniszczonych przez obce nam kraje, pozdro z NL....
Not partially wholy supported by uk
Jesteś wdzięczny UK za to, że ukradli polskie złoto po 2 wojnie światowej? I że izolowali nas politycznie i wykorzystywali Polaków do pracy której brytyjczcy nie chcieli wykonywać? Potrzebujesz terapii i, bo masz syndrom sztolhomski
i dont think you understand the impact that brain drain and population loss has on the immigrants home economy, in this case poland
I’m Hungarian but I’m leaving. When I came here many years ago, the UK was dynamic, most of my friends were either Europeans or Australians. I made more money than in Hungary or France (where I was living before coming to London). I didn’t mind the quality of housing, the mediocre food and the rather gloomy weather because London had such an amazing vibe and the positives outweighed the negatives. Fast forward 16 years, salaries are stagnating, prices skyrocketed, taxes have grown and loads of Europeans & Australians left and got replaced by…..different cultures that I am unable to relate to. Streets are less safe and the London nightlife is nonexistent. I’m sure London will flourish one day but I think its best days are behind us for now.
Same here, also from HU, also planning to leave. Similar reasons
Exactly, the weather is awful. There has to be a REASON to live in the uk e.g. better quality of life. Without a better quality of life why would ANYONE stay there? It's not like the uk is a tropical paradise.
What do you mean by different cultures and what about them cannot you not relate to ?
It's a real shame and the uk will only snowball in its decline, if I was younger I'd be out also but with a family of 5 it's so difficult
@@saasda6255whites mate
Poland hasn't imported the third world, that's their strength. Productive people with European culture are leaving UK.
@@nikonnikiforoff Unfortunately, they now have a lefties government who is planning to build 49 migration centres and accommodate migrants from non-christian backgrounds.
The strongest,honest workers strengthen economies where they are respected! Yes!
100 %
With a 0.8 fertility rate for 2024, its only a matter of time before they start importing others
casual racism
Haven't they already fallen below Poland?
When I went to university, a fair number of my classmates were from Poland and were very open about how bad it was there.
In the past few years, nearly all of them have returned to Poland and are doing very well there.
There's a new goverment measure where you don't pay income tax for 4 years after coming back from emigration. So yeah, people are going back
Poland has a Human Development index of 0.881. The UK has a HDI of 0.940 so no Britain hasn't fallen behind no matter how many doom mongers claim that it has. Poland has had extraordinary growth post 1991 which is commendable and a great achievement.
The overall standard of living in the UK is at the highest its ever been, Rose tinted glasses of the past are the problem here not decline. The 80's and 90's were not some utopia it had high crime and deprivation, lower education rates and university attendance, Higher vehicle fatality rates, Higher pollution and lower standards of living.
@@SRParsonage I think HDI only measures GDP per capita, life expectancy and years of schooling. Check out Sustainable Development Report 2024. It scores 17 different goals, but not GDP. UK is numer 9 in the world, Poland number 10.
@@SRParsonage What does the human development index have to do with anything, this indicator means nothing at all, Poland is many times better than the UK, it is one of the best countries in Europe, and the best country in Europe is the Czech Republic
@@bognagruba7653 The Human Development Index does not and has never taken into account GDP per capita, it takes into account the economic indicator GNI PPP per capita, and these indicators do not mean anything at all about the life of an ordinary person, they do not take into account whether it is easy to get a job, whether it is easy to rent a house, or whether there is a good ratio of prices and wages
I've spent 2 summers in Scotland working as a catering host on a train, aka. trolley dolly. I was based in Aberdeen. I will always be grateful for the open-mindedness, friendliness of the Scottish people and the entire UK for allowing us to just go and do some work and learn the language. It allowed me to have a little money for the semester and boosted my confidence as it let me believe that I can survive on my own outside of my own country. The story similar to mine and a great number of similar ones are shared among polish people. I guarantee that as a nation we wish the UK to do well and overcome any challenges lying ahead.
tbh having recently vistited both the UK and Poland, it already feels and looks like Poland is richer (apart from Zone 1 in London ofc).
He asked when? How about 5 year ago? If you are talking about Living Standards, Poland had overtaken UK long years ago. If you look at GDP, then there is still some catching up to do, but then since when does GDP got to do with people life?
100%
UK is now an over inflated welfare state with huge inequality.
Its the housing that creates the illusion.
Over the last twenty years, I travelled between Poland and the UK a dozen times each year. I can tell you that those statistics are meaningless to me. The standard of living in Poland is already higher than in the UK!
What’s the standard of living for low earners in Poland compared to the uk
@@rbxrockettrio8650 still better
@@rbxrockettrio8650@rbxrockettrio8650 Housing and other living expenses are still relatively affordable in Poland, and the minimum wage is quite high. Also, education and healthcare are generally free, so even lower-income families can send children to uni, etc.
Keep in mind that all those things seem already better in Poland. Modern housing in Poland is light years ahead of the UK regarding quality and technology. When you spend a bit of time in a modern house or apartment building in Poland and then go back, you realise how medieval the technology employed in the UK is.
@@rbxrockettrio8650 Most of the low earners in Poland are the people in their 50ties coming from the small towns. Their main advantage over UKs is that most of them owns their houses or flats. People in their 30-40ties are usually middle class (well educated, owning their house or flat, having multiple cars). Most of house rentiers are guys in their 20ties starting career and starting living on their own.
Anecdotal observations mean literally nothing.
Remember when 15 years ago I've first moved in it was border line embarrassing to say You're coming from Poland...English people was looking down on us because of accent for them We were portrayed as dumb but in reality it was our second language and most of brits don't even now English properly😂 Now it's not the case anymore, personally I do think Poland is a better place to live than vast majority of UK because of modern infrastructure, all round tidyness and efficiency of services I would add as well choice in the shops. You go to any builders merchants or even supermarkets and You have got nearly whatever You want as an option and here its either cheap, mid range or expensive and that's with everything 🤷
The British people I knew were at least partly annoyed with some many Polish people because they never voted for 1 million new people to come over and compete for jobs, housing, public services etc. It's unfortunate if Polish people got the blunt end of that but blame the politicians who lied and ignored the people who elected them, as they 'rubbed the right's nose in diversity.'
@@SirKenchalot I completely understand what You are saying but on the flip side We came in when the British economy was booming and unemployment for people who actually wanted to find work was non existent especially that many people speak 0 English and was able to make a living and even save or send money to family for bills ect.
When they teach you English in Poland, don't they teach you punctuation? 😂
I learnt French and Japanese but would never have the sheer arrogance to suggest I spoke better than a native, especially with your level. You wonder why with your entitlement, people didn't want you here. Sadly there's good and bad people everywhere I know a lot of nice Poles here.
I totally agree, the stigma that was attached to Polish people (and others from other eastern european countries) was ridiculous.
I also agree that Poland is far more developed now than the UK barring London. I actually live here in your second city and its the most comfortable living.
No chance I will return to the UK anytime soon.
You won't find any old furniture, old dirty mattresses or bin bags on Polish streets, where it's norm in English towns.
Same in Canada, I wince every time I see one of those discarded mattresses.
yes, you will find them in the houses tho XD
Lol no, not true. You walked around central Krakow and you feel like ypu know Poland. There are lots of problems in Poland. Same problems like in the UK, minus the migrants
Its all about non european migration. Eastern asians, vietnamese also dont cause problems.
3:43 poland is actually central european, not eastern. it's really important
Who cares if anyone calls us eastern Europe? I dont mind, as long, as we are safe, and standards of living are decent
Polska to Europa Wschodnia. Nie ma czegos takiego jak Europa Centralna xd
@@Kategan A właśnie, że jest gdy podzielisz Europe na trzy części.
@@kordelas2514
mozna tez podzielic np. na 7 czesci i bawic sie dalej w bezsensowne nazwnictwo.
Jest europa wschodnia i zachodnia. historycznie i kulturowo ma to najwiekszy sens.
A czy wschodnia konczy sie z Bugiem, Dnieprem czy Uralem to juz inna dyskusja.
@@mz5805 Europe wschodnią i zachodnią to też można uznać za bezsensowne nazewnictwo wg twojej logiki. W praktyce stosuje się podział Europy na zachodnią, środkową (Central Europe), wschodnią, północną i południową. Nie należy tego mylić z politycznym podziałem Europy w przeszłości na blok zachodni i blok wschodni. Kulturalny i historyczny podział to już kwestia arbitralna.
Coming to the uk to study from Poland and not leaving the country when I could is one of my big regrets. Would already have multiple properties and pay 9 percent tax instead of almost 50 in the uk. The standards of living in Poland are higher than in the uk. Actually young people in the uk are much poorer than those in Poland, living in rented rooms until they are 40 and earning enough money just to pay for that room, sturbucks coffee and maybe cheap holidays once a year. Yet many British still look down on us in their dump rented rooms believing that they are “rich”. Undoubtedly Britain has a great history and was once the most powerful country but it’s long gone now, once playing in the same league with USA now it’s being surpassed by Eastern European countries. And what they do? Increase taxes even further 😂 and I don’t say that with satisfaction, but with sadness and regret. Living in the uk is like being stuck on the first gear - the salaries are low but even if you make it you are taxed so much that it’s not worth the effort. Combine this with astronomical costs of living and you get the perfect storm.
Even earning £60k/yr, I found myself having to tighten my belt at times because rents are so high. It's ridiculous.
Britain is no longer the place to be unless you can get a job in finance.
Just wait; there will be a Polish Labour party there soon that will try to ruin everything you're enjoying so much now just like the left wing in the UK did, and now the US is going into decline too. Enjoy it while it lasts and if you're really smart, you'll learn what the previously successful countries did and how to avoid the same trap, not for the smug satisfaction but because you love your country and your people too much to let it happen to them too.
It's all because you and I have stolen all the good jobs from the native Brits! 😅 After The People Have Spoken (in the Referendum) I realised how bad I was, and left. Now every chav can get my old job (Senior Software Engineer), but somehow they don't hurry to do so, missing my taxes, which were enough to sustain a big jolly chav family. 😅
OK Wojak, now go and clean my bathroom
@@РусскийРусич your bathroom is outside and you clean it by yourself. You actually never cleaned it yet, but maybe some day😁
I’m English… I really want to move to Poland.
people from the UK are always welcome in Poland.
I did it! I work for a tech company here and I actually earn more than I would in the UK (barring london). The quality of life is brilliant, the people are very welcoming and accommodating and its a very very safe place.
You're welcome. Even with english as your main language you'll do. Start learning polish though it's always giving you more options 🙂.
@@jonkisby4871can you tell how much are you making ?
😂😂😂😂😂
I’m Polish and returned back from Singapore after 8 years abroad. I found a great job for my experience and specialization (building IT infrastructure management software), not available anywhere else. Quality of life is high, economy is healthy and level of digitalization is one of best in the world. I cannot imagine a better place for me right now.
I spent two weeks traveling across UK back in June and I find little to no differences between UK and Poland, except the first one being more expensive. Just that work wise, it’s hard to find an interesting work or often any work at all. Because of that, many of my friends in UK don’t work, so with this attitude, tables can turn sooner.
I know Poles thinking of leaving Canada for Poland too. Canada is becoming third world as much as the UK and increasingly authoritarian.
I would say that no-nonsense Polish govt vis-a-vis welfare state & high-tax UK govt are doomed to different paths, with the former emerging and the latter stagnant.
I do IT infrastructure how do I find a job in Singapore
It's good to watch a video based so strongly on data, and so facts rather than opinions. Great synthesis - thank you!
My father in law was Polish. My son once told me my wife and he and my other children may be eligible for a Polish Passport by ancestry. With increasing UK government criminality corruption and incompetence Poland looks an attractive place to retire. I have a company pension to look forward to and own property and stocks and shares. The inheritance tax threshold is higher and taxes are lower and there would be plenty of job opportunities for my children two of them being Civil Engineering apprentices
I obtained citizenship through my grandparents 3 years ago and live in Poland. I would recommend Lexmotion. Yes your wife and children would be eligible as they are blood descendants of your father-in-law.
You all better start to learn Polish language right now. We will shout at you for speaking English in the public, busses, streets etc
Frank you are more than welcome here in Poland.
@@LeoSag-b7pchyba Ty sam bedziesz krzyczec xD
Good luck learning Polish language though. It's probably the strongest reason why we have a relatively small foreign population lol.
Poles are great workers and good people. I am glad to know that their country is doing so well. As an Italian, I struggle to understand why they continue to stay in Italy, a country that has no future. Probably the exchange rate with the euro is still convenient, but I have strong doubts that if we measured purchasing power, Italy would be better than Poland.
weather and food ;) its not all economics ;)
The opposite why they were staying in a gloomy and plastic food UK: weather and food!
The weather is better and the sea is warm in summer and Italian ice cream is the best in the world and the incrediable Italian food and culture are speaking for BELLA ITALIA.
Weather, food and magnificent architecture 😊
@@stomil poverty, mass imigration, dirt.
As someone who moved from the UK to Poland 2 years ago, i have no regrets.....
I would rather have the Polish worker than a motley load of people from other parts of the world😊.
I have worked with some poles and Ukrainians mostly hard working people and good English language skills .
Yea I agree they’re great people that add to whatever country they go to
@@rbxrockettrio8650 I believe a polish boss would be even more perspective option long term. All the best!
@@rbxrockettrio8650 In that regard the Polish are similar to East-Asian immigrants. Pretty much without exception hard-working and honourable people.
Thank you ☺️
My Polish husband worked in England for 5 months in 2007. He was surprised, how British economy could even function with the native workers being so slow and inefficient. His English boss was like "Don't you Poles teach us capitalism'. Do they even remember that they gave their ally to Stalin and that it took us 45 years to break free?
Guess it depends where you work, surprised by that comparison in 2007.
We didn't give Poland to Stalin because it was not ours to give in the first place.
Stalin invaded Poland initially in 1939 after Britain and France (which had secretly helped Hitler rise to power) refused to enter into an alliance that might have put a break on German expansionism, forcing Stalin to seek to create a buffer zone. Then he invaded Poland again during a war that Britain and France had no small part in causing in which Russia, to get to Germany, had to pass through. In both cases Russia was acting in its own best interests.
Then consider the USA went and created a totally unnecessary cold war by threatening Russia with NATO and a re-armed Germany to the point of Stalin having to create yet another buffer zone in the form of the Warsaw Pact. And after a series of colour revolutions orchestrated by the West that saw the rapid expansion of NATO and the EU (both American dominated institutions hostile to Russia) throughout Eastern Europe and moving the American empire, an empire that had spent the last 75 years trying to destroy it, right up to its borders, created a hostile fascist state right next door that once more posed an existential threat to the country.
Perhaps you'd have been better off under Hitler. I'm sure under his version of corporatism you Poles would have had plenty of opportunities to serve as _gasterbeiter._
Western Europe (capitalism's imperial core) exploits eastern Europe for the benefit of its parasitical, rentier, debt-ridden economic system, cheap Polish labour being just one of many advantages of being Western.
@@view1st Polish army has been protecting Britain and fighting alongside allies. They were promised freedom for their country after the war. They were not only sold to Stalin, they were not even invited to the victory parade as if they never existed.
We learned the hard way, we have no allies. That is why many watch with satisfaction as the western europe falls apart.
@@piotrjasielski
Did the Poles seriously expected the depleted British military to take on the victorious Soviet armies (numbering 10 million by 1945) for the sake of Poland?
What happened is the only thing that could happen considering the circumstances.
@@bortstanson2034 We did expect not to be sold to Stalin, the right deal could have been made. Because we keep our promises no matter the cost, which we've shown during the war and we expected that from others.
Thanks to west cowardiance in in 1938 and 1939 then in 1945, we got WWII and the cold war. This could have been nipped in the bud if your leaders had the courage.
There is another, very touchy topic that is nonetheless relevant: Poland still experiences monoculture. People in Poland are a community purely by virtue of being Polish at heart. It is an absolute joy to just be there among the people, in the malls, in the cities, on the playgrounds (I have kids), in the elevator, everywhere.
The UK, like many other Western European countries, successfully managed to destroy that very basic, very essential fabric of society through decades massmigration of people from hostile cultures, and shaming the British for questioning these policies.
Yes, you are seeing the UK as a prime example of what happens when you "over" diversify and you allow far too much immigration and from persons who have little in common with the previously homogenous culture.
In Poland they are still very much homogenous and maintain their culture and traditions and seem on the whole to be very proud of their country and its rise in living standards.
Same in the Netherlands. Mass-immigration was (still partly is) not to be questioned or discussed, with severe social consequences if you did. And thus put upon us in a partly non-democratic way.
@@Intel-i7-9700k It destroying all Western European nations. And as you said you can not question or discuss such policy without repercussions. Free and democratic, not so sure...
Imagine how many people in UK colonies died to support UK economy. I call it karma.
@@Marszczak Actually, that was called #winning.
I’m a Londoner living in Poland since 2017. Since Brexit the UK has become horrible. It’s a great country but destroyed by the government. I’m very glad I moved to Poland just wish I’d done it sooner. Very sad what’s happening to the UK.
Living in Serbia, Poland's economy is a huge inspiration for us. Back in the days Yugoslavia was ahead of many eastern communist countries due to the relatively liberal economic policies. Today Serbia is unfortunately lagging behind Poland and receiving little money from EU funds, as well as facing several obstacles in terms of industry and transport.
If polish economy is inspiration for serbian people why are you following russia? With russia your people will never live good and easy life.
@@okuratwarmianski7993 My advice for you is to watch less western mainstream media. Serbian people will NEVER turn their backs on Russia. We were attacked three times during the last century, and every time it was coming from the west. Russian resources are the future of the planet btw.
@@bingo737 I know history, I know what happens to a country when Russia gets its hands on it. Maybe if they weren't such bastards, people would be more willing to cooperate with them. Now they have Kim Jong-un, it's definitely cooperation that aims to improve the quality of life 😂😂
@@okuratwarmianski7993 If you knew history you would understand what Serbia has to go through. Western "allies" have literally occupied a fifth of our territory, yet they tell us we need to impose sanctions on Russia. Insane what it happening in the world of cowards and biased media. Our economy is also very dependant on russian gas and will remain so for at least 30 years more, if not forever. So EU bureocrats should definetly keep their fingers out of Serbia and stop threatening us.
Yeah. Born in mid 90's in PL. For my parents generation Yugoslavia was richer country. War destroy everything
Just came back from Poland, from a holiday. You might hate me for it, but in comparison UK feels like a 3rd world country. In Poland roads are better, better food, better houses, better people even, UK feels cramped and claustrophobic. Constant fight over parking spaces everywhere. Not to mention better climate, without constant rain. Yes, might move over there.
I met many Polish people over the years and they were all the nicest, friendliest, hard working people who integrated into our society. That sort of immigration is what all countries want. Sadly those days are long gone here in the UK, the only migration we get now are people from third world countries, legal and illegal. We have millions of immigrants who are on benefits and hardly integrate into society. It’s no wonder there is no growth in the UK, we are skint because of benefits and providing for people claiming asylum. We have a million people right now in the UK claiming asylum.
There is no end in sight to this, the government are doing nothing to stop or prevent it.
All we have here is cuts, cuts and more cuts. We pay enormous taxes and yet see so little improvement in anything. What a mess politicians have made of our country.
Polish cities are beautiful and they still have a civilised society centred around the family. Light years ahead of the UK.
It was our biggest downfall, no family values also mean chaos in dating for our youth, and replaced by feminist solipsism, egocentrism and inability to settle down for the avg family life
And same issue is face here in northern europe where I am from, it is a crime what has happened to our sons and daughters. Both will be unhappy and alone yet nobody talks about this at all and the reasons behind. As the older generations still run our countries and hasnt woke up yet
Or light years behind the UK. With growing riches we might be headed for the same.
@@albertcieplinski very nice joke mr immigrant
@@cjzagorski69420 But I live in Wrocław 😅
I hope Poland would attain the same level of economic success as West European countries.
I might be a little biased because I have a lot of Polish friends but I would say they are super intelligent, hard-working, ambitious, loyal, kind hearted, open-minded, adventurous people I know. It would be a great injustice if they don't succeed.
Poland is already better than Western Europe, it is one of the best countries in Europe, and the best country in Europe is the Czech Republic
to say that poland needs success like west countries is an insult to our culture which isnt about prioritising industrialisation and urbanisation. were happy with the nature we have.
@@cjzagorski69420 It's all about Family and and kind of keeping our country for people similar to us, I'd say, right? Cheers from Lithuania.
It was clear to me when visiting family in Poland as far back as 2017 that living standards and just the state of the urban fabric over there were already better. The condition, cleanliness and safety of their towns, the cultural homogeneity in their society, the work ethic, no visible homelessness or drug addled people in the streets. Every family moving into a plush new apartment or building their own home. Poland is really rising, and it was beautiful to see, remains so, but it's twinged with pain for me, as I've watched the UK decline precipitously in all the decades I've known and visited both countries. Being in the UK, I can't help but feel I'm in a sinking ship most days...
As a Pole who have been living, studying, working and paying taxes in the UK for almost 3 years, I’ve decided to come back to Poland. As a programmer, I’m getting slightly higher salary in the UK, but renting and transport cost were killing me. Year ago I’ve visited my friend who have turned off the heating during the winter, telling me that it’s too expensive to be on all the time. I had to sleep under 2 blankets, and that was the moment I’ve realised I’m not going back there:) Not mentioning that Poland is much more clean and safe. To British professionals: come to Poland, you won’t regret 😊
Hey, don't invite other people over to come and live in Poland. I want Poland to stay affordable for our own people. We still have our problems to fix.
Zalezy jeszcze gdzie mieszkales.
Import third world become third world. Poland has done the complete opposite
The third world is fast becoming the new first world, meanwhile the Brits are busy blaming everyone but themselves for their failures...
Import the people from 3rd world is wild
You stating Polish immigrants were 3rd world. Well they certainly came from a very sad country in the beginning, and sent all their money home. This plus UK wage stagnation in the UK since the 90s.
@sitrepSNAFU no, he meant an actual countries called in the past a members of a third world. Today you could call them global south. A lot of them were dependant states during the colonial times. Poland never been a third world country.
@christopherhumphrys7398 Poland do too sadly, there's more and more coming to fill the gap of ageing society. But you need a finite amount of deliverers, takeaway workers and factory workers and with their lack of language and different culture they hardly ever can get education on the level, that allows to work somewhere more sophisticated and specialised.
I'm a Brit, and it was obvious when visiting Eastern Europe that those mfs are much smarter and harder working than us.
I've met two Polish women who came to England without knowing the language and got through a degree while learning the language. One did two degrees at the same time.
They're much smarter than us. They're women are sexier. Their men are manlier.
And they don't have as much of a problem with the aristocracy who have more wealth than the government in the UK, which keeps homes more effordable in Poland.
You're a bit too harsh on English nationals. Your strong people are in a lot of places around the world.
That is bias. You have met exceptional individuals who took a leap of faith and were strong enough to make such a decision. There are a lot of poles who are not that motivated. It is just the surrondings that forces stronger people to seek succes abroad.
Home are not more affordable in Poland.
communism was bad in political and economic sense, but few things made decent like schooling system or medical care, it also neglected class division, so we dont have this aristoracy issue like UK, Germany, or France, but class division never was a huge problem in PL, in XVI c. 10% of population had voting rights, they elected kings, it was highest number in Europe that time, they were called slahta (noblemen), some of them were called "golota" (naked - becouse they were so poor) and they even had not have own peasants, reason of this was every generation land was divided among family memebers and got smaller, but still they were slahta by ancestry
in XIX/ XX c. those shlahta became members of inteligentsia class (doctors, teachers, professors, scientists, writers etc) , and first thing what Germans and Soviets did after 1939 was to physically erase this ppl and make Poles dump, as You noticed it did not work well
In December I am leaving after 16years in London
I’m leaving in 2 weeks after 16 years being in London. So weird but I’ve been feeling for a while that London was no longer my home.
@@dobcsekwho cares
@@Drannn54 you care and your falling country you just act like you dont
@@dobcsek Welcome back! 🙂November / December is a great month for returns because of chrismtas time etc. Good luck!
@@Drannn54 you will be in Poland as well..soon:))
Here is Indian Hindu, I spent nearly three years in England and couldn’t help but notice the British often treating the Polish with blatant prejudice-sometimes even crossing into outright hostility. But that’s not the main takeaway. The real story here is that I’ve since moved to Poland. Let me tell you, it’s a stunning place: no illegal immigrants, no radical muslim extremism, just pure peace and order. Believe me when I say, Poland is poised to be Europe’s next superpower. Mark my words
Poland has been receiving yearly between 2 and 3% of its GDP from the EU. Every single year in the last 20 years. It is still by far the largest net receiver of EU funds. Also, it is somehow competitive thanks to lower salaries compared to western europe countries. I think it will stabilize as one of the main powers in the EU, maybe it will reach the level of Spain but not much more than that.
@@marcoac-sx6lq It has been on the receiving side, so it can improve it's infrastructure. Eventually, this will flip and will become a contributor
I'm sure of it.
@marcoac-sx6lq Without large recognizable companies, and with nonexistent investment in research, the best Poland can do is stabilize as Spain #2 or something similar.
@@marcoac-sx6lq they said exactly the same thing about the Republic of Ireland and now it’s a economic powerhouse and a net contributor to the EU, and this is what the EU is about building up economies unlike the UK which seems to be intent on tearing every economy down including its own.
I got one polish neighbor who had just left back home two months ago and they had been living here for ten years or so.
Poles have fantastic educational system, with good quality schools and free university education; their literacy level is one of the highest in the world. They are smart because learn mostly at least until their mid twenties, graduating from five years of uni with degrees in engineering or computer science. Poland is a hub of international interest because it has great workforce. Poland also invests a lot into public sphere: roads, bridges, trains etc. It fuels the economy further.
Pole here - it already slipped. I lived in UK for two years and RAN AWAY back to Poland. Money wise we have a catch-up still to do, but what is important is safety. Not being afraid to walk anywhere at night, not being afraid of your possessions being stolen. I ran away when Brits voted for Brexit and I hear it is just getting worse and worse now.
I'm a dual citizen, born and raised in London. I live in central Poland and my life is immeasurably better in every way. Poland is already well ahead of the UK in many ways. What cracks me up is Brits still having this bizarre superiority complex and looking down on Poles as if it's still the 1980s, or 'why are there so many Poles coming to the UK?'. Came, Sandra, past tense. The UK has possibly unfixable problems, or at least, problems which will now take decades or possibly the next century to reverse. And no, we don't want you in Poland. You voted for Brexit. You made your bed, now you can lie in it. And if you do find a way of moving here, you cannot get by without learning Polish to at least a B2 level.
48% voted against brexit. Plus, you can not assume ALL leave voters were influenced by immigration. There were tons of reasons as to why people voted leave.
I visited Katowice in April and loved it
@@rayc9539 british people liked to act as if all poles were responsible for PIS, even though only 30-40% of poles voted for them :P
@@sSomeawesomeneSs Okay...
I don't agree. Poland needs immigrants BUT we must select them very carefully.
I came to UK with my parents when I was 12, and moved back to Poland 18 years later. Grateful for all the great people of Britain I met along the way!
I think the inversion of expenditure @9:24 is so telling. All the investment in buildings has gone into benefits payments and gov rent payments for social housing. The former creates a capital asset that retains value and serves its purpose, the latter is just money down the drain.
As this government prepares to raise taxes above those of the post war days, they pull Britain into a doom loop where people reliant on government handouts desperately seek more creative ways of pillaging the dwindling wealth of those too attached to the country to leave. Labour’s message to successful people is clear, “your personal wealth is my deferred tax asset”.
The dreaded phrase “asking those with the broadest shoulders to pay more” won’t work forever.
I returned to Poland in 2007 and have moved to Denmark in 2012. I was 14 in 2007, and had little English practice, yet I passed my English GCSEs way above national average. My classmates in a grammar school also seemed to be less focused on school the older they got. The houses were expensive, but cold, tiny and old. Everyone focused on buying stuff, everyone drove new and expensive cars. Stark contrast to the polish economy at the time. But I could sense already, that this consumptive and careless model can't go forever. Moving onto Denmark. Here everyone is saving, reusing, paying high taxes. People are rich, but you'd never know. The only reason you see fancy new cars now is because of the EV transition and economic incentives. The houses are large, well insulated and cheaper than in Poland. I don't think much will change in the UK until more land is freed for new city developments and the property market crashes. Otherwise it's a modern days surfdom. It's really a shame given the depth and colour of the UK history and its impact.
Do you really mean houses in Denmark are cheaper than in Poland or is it a mistake?
As a native born Englishman we are still a feudal country or rather a colony of monopoly. The so called elite are only interested in bilking the population with high property prices whilst undermining wages through mass immigration of the lowest grade of people. It's hard to get rich and if you see how the present government if you can call it that behaves I am looking to emigrate.
Even low-wage people in Denmark are rich enough to travel the world. Coming from a Dane who is part-time working while studying..
@@bognagruba7653Houses in Poland become very expensive. I’m not familiar with Denmark property market, but I wouldn’t be surprised if similar properties are cheaper there than in Poland.😊
in Poland, houses are many times cheaper than in Denmark, and Poland is better than Denmark
I am a UK national and I chose to retire to Łòdź Poland. It is a beautiful place to live. I took all my money with me and have invested it in property here. The standard of living in Poland is already higher than in the UK. Brexit undoubtably accelerated the trend. Sad but true.
Rich people "investing in property" is what breaks societies. Please stop.
@@weareallbornmad410 I think you may be jumping to a conclusion there. I have purchased a run down apartment, I am renovating it and shall then rent it out at the market value. How is that breaking society? I am supporting society by increasing the supply of decent housing.
@@jimfreestone3119 You're preparing to be a landlord. You bought an appartment on credit, and when you rent it, the people living there will be the ones paying off that loan - not for themselves, but for you. It's a pyramid scheme.
Meanwhile, there is one less appartment on the market, and prices for buyers that actually _need_ an appartment to live in go up. Most young people in Poland today will never own their home, and will forever have to wonder what the rent is going to be next time, and if they can't afford it and have to move, will there be any place they _can_ afford or are they going to go homeless. That's because rich people like yourself buy out appartments and make them unavailable for anything but paying off their loans.
You are part of this process.
@@weareallbornmad410 It seems you may be imagining my situation without understanding my initial post. I bought the apartment with my money (as a retirement income). I am renovating it and am therefore only adding to the market stock, which would be reducing the overall cost to the customer. The apartment is already part of an expensive apartment block, so my effort is restoring what was previously there. I wonder if you are comparing Poland with the UK where investors do drive up property prices as does government tax policy as the economy substantially relies on house prices rising. The tax system in Poland prevents people profiting from short term investment, the situation here is therefore very different. I am a long term investor and my wealth is only helping Poland.
Having lived in London for a while and having visited the UK a few times over the span of a few decades, I feel really sorry for the British. They let in a lot of migrants from, ahem, 'different' cultures, then they went for Brexit which made life a bit harder for migrants from the same European culture/heritage. So now Poles, Hungarians, Spanish etc. are gone and the UK will probably need to introduce Sharia law in a few years, mandatory burqas for women etc. A place with so much history, a former empire is becoming a third world country.
I moved from Poland to London in 2011. I've been here for 13 years now and coming back crosses my mind from time to time. But London is an amazing city and I like the mentality of Brits, they're very chill, fun and laid-back people - plus I know I would miss London a lot. However, it's becoming more and more dangerous each year. I used to feel safe here, but not until 2 years ago when someone on a bike tried to steal my phone. For the first time after 11 years in London I started feeling unsafe here.
I came back to Poland after 15 years living in the UK, no regret. There is a couple of things better in the UK than in Poland like ISA's limit but it's safer, cleaner etc. Still going to England twice a year to visit friends and look after my properties :)
Here is a slightly different perspective...
First, the decline of the UK did not start in the 2000s. The UK was at its peak power sometime in the middle of the 19th century. Since then, it has had nothing but decline, albeit mostly relative, to rising powers like the US and Germany first, Japan, China, and many others later.
Second, though this video will please many Polish people, a more analytical view presents a somewhat different picture.
Poland's primary role in the EU economy is to be an outsourcer of jobs/industries that more advanced economies, primarily Germany no longer want to do, for reasons due to cost/environment/regulations, etc.
The industries range from manufacturing to IT to transportation etc. Due to its stability and nearness to major EU markets, Poland is still a good place to outsource.
Poland's reliance on Germany is exceptional, a long and deep recession in Germany will have a major impact on Poland's growth.
So what's the problem with being the outsourcer of those jobs?
Well, they anchor Poland strictly as a "middle-income country".For a national economy to grow to the "advanced/developed" stage, it must produce highly productive, highly profitable companies/industries on its own.
As long as say, the VW headquarters are in Wolfsburg, and diesel engines for those VW cars are produced somewhere in Silesia, the lion's share of wages/profits will go to Wolfsburg, not Silesia.
Poland has ZERO home-grown, internationally recognized corporations. Its biggest companies are in the energy sector, which means they don't export much. The biggest Polish company recently listed on the Polish stock market was .... Zabka : a convenience store chain,
Also, I wonder what the work ethic in England is like. Here in Poland, few people are truly productive like their counterparts in Germany or the US, not to mention South Korea or Japan. The GDP of Poland per capita is about 1/3rd of that of Germany, and that means that the average Polish worker produces about 1/3 of what the average German does.
In the end, I will agree with the author and many commenters - Poland did not create more problems by importing the 3rd World into its borders, and that keeps the country relatively safe and cohesive.
Perhaps we don't need to be that rich, as long it's relatively nice here....?
@@lewishowe8349 Yes, something like that. However, each EU member belongs to that organization to gain some benefit: countries like Poland to gain cash, countries like Germany to gain access to new markets and cheaper labor.
Last but not least, perhaps countries like Poland may finally pressure the EU to change UE migration rules so half of Africa won't move here...
@@lewishowe8349 There is a fundamental difference between people from European countries like Poland, Czechia, or Romania migrating and settling in the West vs. the African masses.
Poles, Czechs, or Romanians look like the English, French, or Germans, and they assimilate quickly and well.
OTOH, the 3rd generation of African migrants committed the anti-French, anti-west Charlie Hebo massacre in Paris - they certainly did not "assimilate" that well.
Considering that the native Westerners do not want to reproduce at a sufficient rate and the Western countries face depopulation, the West needs some kind of migrants. The question is: from where?
I don't know if Britain gained something from EU membership or not, but you are better off with Polish plumbers and builders than Nigerian welfare recipients.
Brexit was primarily an anti-migration movement, but it stopped the first migrant category, while the second continues unabated.
Pełna zgoda poza przedostatnim akapitem twojego wywodu - w kwestii doktorów i inżynierów polskojęzyczne POPiS-owe nierządy w ostatnich ok. 5 latach mocno nadrabiają te "braki" w stosunku do Europy Zachodniej. Widać jak na patelni, że Polska nie jest ojczyzną Polaków, o którą walczyli nasi dziadowie i pradziadowie, ale jest po prostu kolonią, w której poprzez zapewnienie taniej siły roboczej oraz szeregu ulg i zwolnień podatkowych a nawet dotacji publicznych na zakładanie filii i zakładów stworzono kolonię, w której zachodnie, amerykańskie koncerny mają maszynkę do robienia kasy. Patrz przykład budowy zakładu przez grupę Elemental Strategic Metals wywodzącą się (przypadek!) z usa w Zawierciu. Sprawdź sobie, ile kasy publicznych dotacji poszło na budowę tego zakładu i cóż on takiego oferuje Polsce...
Real Story:
London job: 90k pounds.
3 times in the office
Take home pay - 62k
cost of living in london - 2k pounds
Poland Job 90k euros
1 day a month office
Take home pay - 78k euros (B2B contract 12% tax + small social)
cost of living in warsaw - 1.1k euros
Im Portuguese, and this is a real comparison i had in my hands last year. Poland already wins
This calculation seems a bit off. With b2b and this income, the social contribution alone is at least around 700 eur per month (and increases every year because it’s based on the national minimum wage), so a more realistic annual estimate would be closer to 72k. Also, keep in mind that b2b contracts are typically used by freelancers, meaning you aren't paid for days off or bank holidays. You'll also need to handle monthly bureaucratic tasks like tax declarations, or hire an accountant - though that adds extra costs. Additionally, you aren’t protected by labor law, and pension benefits are generally not included. Finally, remember that b2b isn’t for everyone, and the tax rate can vary depending on the type of economic activity, so it may be higher or lower than 12%.
@@TheMrBater yes, all you said is true. I didnt mention the SS payments, just by itself would be an extra 2k, so would be around the number you said.
Plus, yes you would pay extra socials, in my case to Portugal as citizen, to have a good pension.
You are protect in a few months, but you can let go, but given the market, is always a great deal
not a typical example
average NET salary:
Poland - 1382 euro
UK - 3354 euro (2801 pounds)
@@sender5804 Irrelevant for the conversation
Just an example where the talent can go. There is not one option anymore
fdx me contrata pra viver na Polônia 😂 Uk tá uma mrd
Inflation of 18% is a story from almost two years ago. At the beginning of 2024, it was around 2% and has now risen to 4.9%. The increase is due to the end of subsidised energy prices and the return of VAT rates on food to pre-COVID levels.
You mean living standards between London and Poland.
UK is a rich country of poor people; any investment and progress is seen in London, the rest of the UK is far, far behind Europe and Poland.
Dokładnie
and everyone has the same rented cars.
For someone who returned back to PL the main reason was family ties and the declining standard of living in terms of the disposable income and safety. At some point we were simply better off paying off the mortgage back home and living mortgage free with lower income than taking on a 30 year mortgage in the UK just to have a home. London has the jobs but also crippling living costs. Safety was also a factor…
I'm third generation Polish here in the US, with a very Polish last name, and absolutely feel i have been discriminated against throughout my professional career and society in general. It's nothing new for us, for me, it's expected. Just shrug it off and move on!!
Ive been hearing all the Stupid comments/jokes my entire life!
Cholowicz
Same here, born in Poland and grew up in USA and experienced a lot of racism.
Cóż mogę powiedzieć… Może warto odwiedzić kraj przodków i zastanowić się nad inną opcją?
@@yogaMRTA Even though Poles and Americans are of the same race ;)
It's funny how sensitive and delicate US has become regarding minorities because of all of the backlash companies and people get when saying something remotley disrespectful. And yet polish diaspora in us is substantial but we never complained about those polish jokes. Makes you think innit?
This is 2nd upload. Sorry to those who commented on first, I uploaded without the glitch.
Oh sh.t!!!! I had several SMART comments on the first video. Was wondering what happened!
Polish young adult here, here to paint a more accurate picture of what it’s really like to live in Poland compared to more Western economies.
As much as I love Poland and wish it well, I can’t say I have any optimism with regards to it’s future growth (I am
Polish, childhood in Poland, teenage years in Australia, currently living in Poland while studying online in Aus).
Poland simply does not have the tools to deal with the challenges facing western economies at the moment. It is beset on all sides by foreign lobbying and aggressive foreign interest with a track record of bending under the pressure.
The recently released demographic reports paint a truly tragic situation. The retirement pay system is already over burdened and with every year it is only getting worse. Every year the government finds new ways to pass the burden off to workers which impacts the youngest people on the market the most. In many ways it’s a preview of the things to come for all western economies unless the situation changes. The Polish state has no resource wealth with which it could offset this cost unlike places like Australia, the USA or for eg. Norway.
Westerners hear about the gdp growth, the safety and the cleanliness and imagine a wonderful life while not realising how hard it is for most but especially young people to live let alone grow wealthy and actually benefit from the growing economy.
Poland is number one for real estate price growth in all of the EU since the beginning of the decade. Apartments in which you might fit a family in cities cost approx 700,000zł while the average wage is something like 6000zł net (Very few young people manage to make that).
With two people on above average incomes, this is doable but forget about ever doing it yourself unless you are in an extremely fortunate position considering the fact that your rent will probably be somewhere around 3000zł+.
In short, most young people are struggling to have any disposable income at all and this is and has been only getting worse. Unfortunately, it looks like it will stay that way because Poland really has no tools to deal with the current challenges.
The Polish government, for the last 3 decades has been actively promoting foreign corporations to establish themselves in Poland which for a time was fantastic for the country. However now, under pressure from foreign lobbyists, these corporations keep getting extremely favourable conditions while Polish businesses and entrepreneurs keep getting roadblocks put in their way. InPost, a huge Polish courier and delivery company has recently been successful in both Polish and foreign markets. Some data recently came out that this company paid 250 million złoty in tax while DHL and DPD (German and French) paid something like 1 million and 50 million złoty while having similar or even larger revenue in the year.
I love Poland dearly but if you go to Western economies that have been functioning as free markets for many more years, you can see the differences extremely clearly. That being said, Polish people still have insecurities when comparing themselves to other Western people so if you come here you will feel very welcome and safe and have a lot of fun. Keep in mind however that your experience, news headlines of gdp growth and recent propaganda in no way reflect the day to day reality of a country still desperately trying to imitate and grow into the “free world”.
I'll say this: Don't complain, smile and get to work to make Poland great.🤣😂
@@tomi7831 Currently hard working in Poland makes NATO great. Not Poland.
yep. Birthrate 0.8 and soon also Poland should become netto contributor to the EU budget
3000zl rent? No doubt you cant afford an 3+ room flat. Get something smaller or move out from Warsaw if you cannot make more than 6k lol
from my perspective, living conditions in the UK have always been worse than in Poland. I earned better in the UK and there were jobs here. But everything else was worse. Housing conditions, terrible fungus, moisture, construction technologies probably from the Middle Ages. Safety, I guess everyone knows that. Children's education level. Food for people as for cattle. Honestly, only work and its wide availability made it possible to bear it somehow, grit your teeth and wait for the moment when you could get away to Poland and return to normality. And now there are jobs in Poland and the UK is no longer attractive. If you clean up this mess, maybe I'll come back here someday, but for now. Cheerio!
Same size flat in Bialystok cost as much as flat in Glasgow. Rest of the prices about 20% lower(while wages about 2x).
Hey -- a Pole living in the UK (for over 8 years) here. Although the number may look good (and let's be honest -- the streets are cleaner, towns are more modern, and generally the living standards are way better in Poland now), people are still struggling when it comes to housing. Example -- I studied in Poland 15 years ago, my brother graduated uni this year. The amount of gymnastics he had to do in the last years to be able to rent a room is ridiculous comparing to my situation at that time (cost of a room is 3 times higher now in a smaller town). Also, in the UK -- at least in the North -- a person earning the minimum wage is able to rent a flat on their own (nothing crazy and not in the centre, but STILL), same with being able to afford a small mortgage. In Poland, even in smaller towns, you would NOT be able to rent anything than a room on your own, even working couples struggle with renting small 1 bedroom flats. It's not all sunshine and rainbows -- I know that this is not what the video meant, but this is how it may be perceived. That being said -- now in the UK I have to work 2 jobs (mid-senior + self employed) to be able to afford something more than just mortgage and bills.
If you take into account the ridiculous rents and high price inflation and cost of living in the UK, I'm surprised any of them are still here.
The UK shouldn't worry about Polish people leaving, and it having a bad effect on their economy.
Luckily, they have imported millions of workers and engineers from 3rd world countries like India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.
I'm sure they'll fill out the gaps and make the UK a prosperous and safe nation again!
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cmon ziom, u mean XD
Hehe
One day London will look like Balgladesh 🤣
@@TheAndyyy87 it already does bruh
Many gardens and front of the houses in the UK looks like scrap yards, and pay attention at the windows when walk along the streets the curtains looks so dirty and you won't find dirty old matres or furniture on Polish streets
My wife is Polish and we travel many times per year to Poznan, its my intention to retire in Poland as the quality of life is better, while prices have certainly increased property prices are much more affordable and my pension will go much further. Poznan is a similar size city to Manchester but feels much safer, public transport is fantastic and cheap, great choice of pubs and restaurants at half uk prices.
Warsaw isn’t cheap anymore trust me
I am originally from Poznan living in UK.This city is trending high.I consider to move back to Poland in few years after securing my future.
@@wowerman Definitely I’m from New York living in Warsaw Life for me is much better here
Lodz is Polish Manchester ;)
@@galford4793 Manchester is no competition for Lodz
I work with quite a lot of Polish people and over the years quite a few have already returned to Poland. From what I understand the economy, living standards are already higher that the UK. House prices are another reason. Those that have returned home have no interest in returning.
Left UK in 2020 after 16 years. Living standard in the UK is very low, young people are not able to afford even small flat, how they supposed to start a family etc.
As a Pole who has lived in the UK for 20 years, I see that the UK is becoming a minimum wage country with high bills to pay. Government support the people on benefits. Free house if you can't afford and do not work. Free money every month if you do not work. Where it's the support for hard working class people on low income? Feel sorry for UK was one of the best country in Europe...
Already has ? Look at all major cities and demographics and prices of rent ..
In my town there are literally no properties to rent, don’t even bother adding your name to the local council’s housing waiting list. Because demand is so high the landlords can charge top whack. But interestingly, a whole new estate was built and all homes given to asylum seekers. Very nice houses they are too and they get their rent and council tax fully covered. You can see why so many want to come to Britain. And it’s no surprise to see Italy having the same struggles, they have the same problems to us.
I don't understand how this is possible when diversity is our strength?
Having a Cypriot friend who owns multiple hotels in Protaras in Cyprus, 50% of his clients at his all inclusive hotels are polish and now 40% British ,whereas a decade ago he had 95% British
That statistic of Polish wages surpassing the literal UK in 2034 is crazy. Though I will say once I was looking up application for UK deindustrialisation for A level economics and as of Sept 2024 there was an increase in the UK manufacturing sector for a 26 months streak.
Wages were 40% of the UK in 2004?
Maybe on average but the minimum wage was £100 a month!
Now it's closer to £800
Nice... the elephant in the room is that we are the actual society with common history, traditions and language... believe me, it helps
The difference about polish migrants is that we coming out of country for work. A lot of arabic and africa population came to get benefits. It's the correlation of incoming population to uk and reverse effect for economy in UK.
I am living in the UK 12 years. When moved in, in Poland was very low income, I did struggle. When moved in to UK, this country gave opportunities as not experienced in anything young man. Now I have very good income here(was until 2022) Now all is changed. During this 12 years Poland was growing, new infrastructure, Polish people build theirs houses etc. UK shut 50% of small businesses, zero innovation, zero infrastructure improvements, stagnation in wages, immigration from Middle East etc, all this led to UK is very poor country compared to Poland. Look at the UK houses, people don’t invest at all. A lot of foreigners just already left UK, because other countries are much better. In UK British people will leave only with Middle East immigrants soon. This is the truth.
And all that has happened without you. Imagine if you had impact on this, how great would it feel. It's never too late 🙂. All the best!
This seemed true even 10 years ago. I also visited Gdansk a few years ago and it was modern and developed. The airport was new, the roads to and from were modern. A respect for heritage buildings and regeneration. The centre was clean and developed. The UK is a poor country with poor services, infrastructure/high inequality masquerading as a g7
So well said
When you said at the end levels of inequality may be the same between Poland and the U.K., absolutely not. The U.K. still has a class system which Poland has long abolished. It is possible In Poland to go from poor to being considered upper class, in the U.K. good luck with that, they even consider doctors middle class unless they went to the correct private schools and universities with the correct family history
If we compare only selected economic data, the trends are very optimistic for Poland and not very optimistic for the UK. Unfortunately, in general terms this is nonsense, when, for example, we consider the topic of the innovative economy, the trends are already breaking down, and when we realize that Poland has been borrowing three times more than the UK every year for 10 years, and in a few years it will become a net payer to the EU, we are closer to to the vision of the Greek crisis than to be ahead of anyone in terms of living conditions...
I lived in London on skilled worker visa for 1 year before returning to the EU (not Poland). The project turned out to be terrible, company culture toxic so I resigned, took all the money I earned and left.
This is exactly what happens in their businesses they report each other to their bosses they destroy each other,no one wants to work properly and everyone just plays games this is all sick they behave like snakes
@@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k I don't want to generalise but in the company I worked at it wasn't too far from what you say. I had a pretty decent salary in the top 3% in the UK. It wasn't just me leaving, others followed after me.
Don’t be greedy
@@ChristianoRodríguez-h3khave seen something similar in an engineering corporation, very toxic environment, talking behind back of colleagues was the first thing to do, instead of doing work!
I thought polish people were more hard working?
Why R you showing a graph of GDP per capita to illustrate wage growth, there not the same thing.
I will say that Poland is wealthy country with high wages when I see British electricians and plumbers working in Poland and German workers picking up strawberries in Polish farms
You are wrong. A wealthy country could as well be able to train their own plumbers, and not rely on immigrants :)
Dokładnie tak.
Именно так
Sorry, hahahaha, but I just can't imagine a british electrican or plumer working in Poland. No one would pay for the job done with british "quality". Hahahaha, You made my day bro!
Good thing your opinion is irelevant
I returned to PL in 2020 after 8 great years in UK i was studying and working there, im very grateful for that opportunity. It was good back then, i still have some friends and family whom I visit often, and when i see and hear how the life is in UK im happy i made that decision to return to PL. For me the biggest cons of living in the UK are that starting fanily in UK is so difficult and expensive the nursery cost 1200+£ per month are crazy imagin u having two samll children... prices of house and the quality/standards they are made of its like from 3rd world countries. Crimes, i dont need to explain but everyone knows what crime rates are, stabbings, stealing etc. The government spends money fighting the facebook 'criminals' under the hate speech agenda instead of investing money in police that should be on the streets fighting the real criminals. Next is a free speech. u can't express freely ur views unless they fit the official narrative, or else u will lose a job or have issue at school/uni.. Did u know there is almost 10 times more facebook criminals charges in UK than it is in oppressed russia? Next, people in the UK, especially the younger generation, have not been teached core values and morality. It's a blame culture. Nothing is your fault. Everything is someone else's or system fault. No one is teaching self reflecting and improving yourself. This is a big issue if u explore that topic deep enough. There is much more like healthcare, access to facilities, etc. Poland still has a lot of issues. It's not a perfect country, but at least i can see that it is improving where in UK after the 2008 crisis, it just stopped developing, and it stagnated. I really wish and hope our friends from the UK will change the course of the UK and be a back on truck to improve and develop so we all could benefit from prosperity. Have a nice day chaps
The most disturbing thing about UK's decline is the criminal difficulty in getting a simple face to face doctor's appointment where it can take up to 6 weeks. The public transport, education quality, welfare provision standards and supermarket food prices are also disgusting.
6 weeks? Try 6 months. Easier to fly to Poland see a doctor and come back than get an appointment on the NHS.
@@DoctorCongoChronicles 3-6 months is Polish average time when you want to go to a specialist. Of course you can pay and go private, but why are we paying taxes then?
Thank you for the video.
Poland is a great country. Love it. Wish I could live there.
Możesz, wystarczy chcieć 👌🖐️
if you are not leftist and you are proud of being white or respect white culture - you are very welcome!
I love England. Gretings from Poland.
You hate Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
@@Just_another_Euro_dude He said he loves England and from that you got that he hates 3 other countries? Wtf
@@Just_another_Euro_dudeEurope, my friend, is a history of wars, massacres, and conflicts. I love the civilization of the British Isles, and I also love the history of Ireland, Wales, and Scotland. There is something incredibly beautiful there. However, I fear that if the history of wars (England didn’t conquer half the world with a kind heart) continues to divide as we often see, sooner or later, the most recognizable building in your countries will be a mosque
@@paweszczepaniak8238 I share your feelings. i love this island and even as a Pole I feel a bond with it. It's a shame that so many english ppl today don't care about anthing and are fighting against their own country
It appears that the economic situation in the UK is changing in the direction that unemployed immigrants will be forced to go to work. In Poland, benefits and social assistance are so low that they are only enough to survive. Living at a decent standard in Poland is unfortunately hard work. A lot of work.
I'm sure I read that Poland's economy was growing strongly, and it sure looks a friendly vibrant place to live.
It must be so nice to be somewhere that's optimistic with a sane political agenda.
It is great here. Imagine nice clean cities, low crime rates, little illegal migration. Services that work and if you are a skilled person (like myself) then you can get a better salary here than you can in much of the UK. Also the cost of living is lower, council tax? nope, TV licence? nope.
@@jonkisby4871 good to hear!! The UK should take notes!! And the UK must surely be the only country with a TV licence.
@@christophermarshall527 I believe so, but either way its just another random money grab from the people which in turn reduces the personal wealth and standard of living of the average brit.
@@jonkisby4871 You might be surprised, but you are required to pay for TV licence in Poland. It's your responsibility to declare that you have a TV (or TVs). Although, in reality, many people don't pay for it as there isn't an effective procedure put in place to force them to do it. A postman might come to your house one day and ask you to let them in so that they can check if you have a TV. You obviously aren't required to let them in, and they can't force you to. So, ultimately it becomes your choice whether you want to be fined for not paying for it or not.
@@youlol7331 Interesting, so its almost like they tried it and it failed and now they don't bother to enforce it.
I just saw 65% no compliance rate in Poland, thats the spirit!
I think the UK people should do the same and stop paying it.
Comment from Poland: It depends what one compares with what. Warsaw and some major cities already have better living standards (and very good salaries) than large swathes of the UK, but the UK is a very unequal country. North-South, in terms of class, and in other ways. But overall, the living standards over here in Poland are lower as salaries for the majority of the population are still lower.
We Are in Unchartered Financial Waters! every day we encounter challenges that have become the new standard. Although we previously perceived it as a crisis, we now acknowledge it as the new normal and must adapt accordingly. Given the current economic difficulties that the country is experiencing in 2024, how can we enhance our earnings during this period of adjustment? I cannot let my $680,000 savings vanish after putting in so much effort to accumulate them.
Keeping some gold is usually a wise decision. You would be better off keeping away from equities for a bit or, even better, seeking advice from an expert given the current market conditions and everything that is at risk with the current economy.
You have a very valid point, I started investing on my own and for a long time, the market was really ripping me off. I decided to hire a CFA, even though I was skeptical at first, and I beat the market by more than 9%. I thought it was a fluke until it happened two years in a row, and so I’ve been sticking to investing via an analyst
Could you possibly recommend a CFA you've consulted with?
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I also agree that Historically, Britain has always been a part of the Polish Commonwealth.
we are struggling for space in the UK. it´s mad to add layer upon layer of political arguments - western Europe is also in the same boat as the UK.In Portugal there are too many new patients for clinics etc etc etc.