Why Europe Hates Tourists Now
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There are more tourists than ever before. Are we starting to reach the breaking point?
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If tourists stop coming to 🇪🇸 Spain, who will the pickpocketers pickpocket from?
also it would ruin the economy
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@@percy.garou1001 no time for culture if no economy.
How much pock would a pic pock pock, if a pick pock could pick pock?
I’M DOING MY PART
(I can’t afford to travel)
hey wages are rising so maybe in 2030 even you can afford to travel
We love you then ❤🇪🇸
Thanks
@@UltraType_u4d that’s not true
@@ava-he9li why can't that be true as said in the video after the pandemic people had a lot of money to spend so they went on tourist sprees and as the world recovers from covid wages are booming and people are gonna be able to afford to travel who previously could never dream of
AirBnB stealing homes from the housing market to put them in the tourism market is one of the biggest catastrophes to have hit Europe's big cities in the last few decades. So many people don't understand this. Thank you for bringing this to attention.
There's not a single city in Europe we're outlawing Airbnb would result in anything beyond 1-2% temporary reduction in the price of rent, as per the actual results of known bans, so scapegoating Airbnb for a failure to allow more construction in face of mass migration, often of the illegal variety, is just activist cope.
@@Netro1992 Airbnb host detected
@@worldstar907
I wish, then I wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere with a 5% of dying for like a quarter of the year.
The problem is not AirBnB, but the inability to build new housing.
@@colewarner4954 I never expressed that there was only one issue. Restricting short-term rentals and building more houses are *not* contradictory.
Watching this as an American wrapping up his 2 week vacation around Italy, in Venice, Florence, and Rome. The anti-tourism is very real, and very palpable wherever you go. And honestly, I get it. All the main streets are so overcrowded you can barely navigate, and all of the museums and historic buildings are so busy you can't really enjoy what you're there to see. Venice especially doesn't even feel like a city anymore, more like Disneyland with all of its trappings. Coming from a tourist town myself, I 100% understand the feeling. Dumbass tourists don't speak the language, don't know where to walk or drive, and take up all the parking. All your favorite restaurants get worse and more expensive, and all your favorite bars get too full to even order a drink, which now costs $16. It sucks, and a balance needs to be found for everyone, tourists included.
Venice is destroyed, literally not a working city anymore. It's not a place where Italians can live anymore, which is an issue that stacks on top of the rampant uncontrolled immigration in the country. Saying that people are pissed is an understatement.
Damn did you think it was because you’re American? I’m South American and visited Florence and toured Tuscany, Naples, Sorrento, and the Amalfi Coast and also Greece. I found Italians and Greek people to be very hospitable to me and very warm, also due to our similar cultures. They made me feel like I was back home lol. They did complain a lot about American, Chinese and British tourists to us.
Many of my American friends tell me how rude alot of Europeans can be to them because they think americans are “entitled” thus being very anti-tourist towards them.
If you also make the effort to make friends and connections while you’re there, the locals will show you cheaper spots with better quality food. We made a close friend with an Italian taxi driver and he became our best friend and guide, saved us a shit ton of money and scams. In Greece we were able to made a close friend who works at a laundromat and he spent a whole day with us showing us the best of Meteora and southern greece. They also showed us cheaper restaurants and bars, which are largely outside of tourist areas. They both even paid a dinner for us.
You gotta get accustomed to the culture (try to speak the language, know the politics, history) and be warm, they’ll treat you much better!
That’s what happens when you travel to world-famous cities during the high season (which is understandable). I traveled to northern Italy in April, avoiding Milan, and I had a really enjoyable stay. Venice is particularly lost. It’s like a theme park. I can’t imagine how frustrated the old inhabitants must be.
@Lampoluke Yup, it's sad to see what has happened to Venice over the last 2-3 decades honestly. Same with Lake Como not too far away. I might spend a day trip there, but I couldn't imagine staying there. Best to stay in cities like Verona, Brescia, Bergamo, etc.
@@dulcedeleche22 stop coming. we want none of yours
Spain gotta advertise other provinces and cities for tourism. Most people only ever go to Madrid and Barcelona.
Rly? Andalucía, and both islands seem to do quite well
Andalucia: Seville, maybe Granada, maybe Malaga, maybe Cadiz.
Although I agree, it is hard. Very hard. Mainly because there is little to see and do
Palma Majorca, Canary Islands, Benidorm.
Not true at all, Andalucia, Valencia, Balearic Islands, Canary Islands and even Northern Cities like Bilbao and San Sebastian are now packed full of tourists, there aren't many cities in near the coast left for tourists to "discover"
@@alfrredd I agree, I've been to these places, on my various Transatlantic Crossings.
The problem isn't tourism. The problem is that tourists drive up the cost of living. I saw this in Colombia. The exchange rate is very favorable, and Americans make more money than the average Colombian. So, you go down there and think, "Everything is so cheap!" But, the locals don't think that everything is "so cheap." So, if a meal that costs $30 in the USA and costs $10 in Colombia, you would say that it's "cheap." The only problem is, that meal originally cost $5 for the locals, but the owner realized they can make more money off the tourists, so the prices inflated. The cost of living then goes up for the local. This is the main issue with tourism.
Then that’s the greedy owners problem, not the tourist problem. They can keep the meals the same or even add more “luxury” meals for tourists. Even if they kept the meal at $5. They’d have 3x more customers during tourist season and still make more money.
I live in Marrakech and this exact same thing happened , I was going to buy a T-shirt in Jamaa el Fna that usually costs around 4 to 7 dollars and he charged me 17 dollars . I told him to piss off
@@trevnti I don't think it's greedy to want to make more money. It's simply natural that, if you can make more money doing the same thing, you probably will. The best answer is for tourists to be more aware and conscientious. If they are only willing to pay the same amount for a local meal as a local would, then the prices won't inflate.
Also, speaking the local language goes a very long way.
@@velocirapture89i think they'd make more money by not ripping off potential customers
Yeah, but those are also origin countries fir masses of immigrants, both legal and not, and they drive up cost of living in rich countries too. Housing inflation as well as wage depression are real issues, so if they bring immigrants they can receive tourists 😂
Think I'm kidding? No I'm not. Switzerland where I live has hundreds of thousands of Italians increasing my rent and suppressing my wage. So I go down there and gentrify the S out of them. Couldn't care less buddy.
Places like Greece, Italy and Spain but also more recent ones like the Czech Republic or Poland sent cheap labour to the west for decades, but now they don't like it? Interesting. Now they can choke on their own medicine for all I care.
You think the mainland is overwhelmed? What about the Canary islands, which earn 97% of their income through tourism
The Canary Islands are only overcrowded in some places. For example, on Tenerife there are tourists in the south, a few places in the north and a few in the capital. Just walk out of the capital into the mountains and you'll meet one or two tourists in 4 hours of walking in the beautiful mountains on perfect stone paths. And there are very few tourists on La Gomera.
@@Nhkg17 that's not the worst part. Property costs are through the roof, wages are the same if not lower than the mainland
@@venomshot2815 House prices have gone crazy in most of Europe and North America. Even in my town, and we have a minimum of tourists and migrants. The only solution is to build more, but that probably won't help in tourist destinations.
I go to the Canary Islands once a year. So unfortunately I'm contributing to the property prices. But the local mountains are unique and it's practically the only destination in the EU suitable for winter tourism. I meet the minimum of people, I hike in the mountains and only go to the villages for dinner and sleepovers.
Yeah and they are the poorest region in SPAIN. How?
97% de qué ingreso? la gente no entiende lo que lee, un 97% dice jajaja
Tourism accounted for 71% of real growth in the Spanish economy last year, so yeah, considering the dire state of spains economy axing it would bankrupt the country.
Are you sure about 71%? It seems too high even for Spain
@@Yabyaba Yes, Reuters reported it very recently
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That doesn't mean a lot when you factor in that the housing market is wildly unaffordable for the average salary there, mostly because of airbnbs that the tourists use
*Acording to a tourist lobby
The problem lays also in the type of tourism. I come from a small mountain town, tourists used to stay all summer in a rented/bought house and that'd make it so as they would become part of the city. Now it's 2/3 days stays with giant cars that clog the streets and fuck them up, while the state says "you are a small town you need maintenance for small population" while hundreds of thousands of vehicles come trhough
Governments HATE investing in proper infrastructure. Even a trolley in a ski town would do wonders for your main street
@@stevecooper7883How will they upkeep that infrastructure if tourism is seasonal?
@@dioniscaraus6124infrastructure needs to be built for the peak conditions. You don’t just ignore winter weather conditions when building a road because it’s summer half the year
most of the money goes to big multinational hotel chains, who pay bad salaries, so most of that "income" goes into the multinational corporations and out of the country, the government gets their share in taxes but the local people themselves get fucked over in many ways.
And often that share is a fraction what normal people pay.
And more importantly to international real estate investment funds and foreign individuals. Who owns the Airbnbs?
Facts
Step 1: Stop one of the most major economic lifelines of your country and your population
Step 2: No tourists > Happy
Step 3: No money > Government bad
Step 4: Protest government to do better
Step 5: ????
Step 6: Profit
Hear hear
Logic
I like having all the locals flipping the bird in my photos anyway
Why do people feel like tourism is what's keeping Barcelona from being a dystopian city with no money?
Barcelona doesn't need tourist
@tomasperez5916 After their entire industrial sector fell apart, tourism is really the only thing that is keeping the city floating. Unless action is taken to lessen the need for tourism, idk how the city will escape. The problem though I see is the Housing problem, Just dismantle the rent for tourist system and it should be good (Though aint that simple)
I visited Paris and Barcelona in July, there were more tourists in Barcelona despite the Olympics happening in Paris
thats insane
Well of course, Paris is a shite hole
Yeah no one gives a flying f**k about the Olympics
@@DioTheGreatOne I'd prefer to live in that shite pole than in any Eastern-European country. Üdv Magyarországról, Európa pöcegödréből.
The only reason to visit Paris nowadays is if you want to be SA by a group of mohammeds
My city isn’t worth visiting at all but that hasn’t stopped housing prices from absurd increases, even with controls on Airbnb rentals
That's largely due to government policy limiting housing development and immigration keeping demand high, since I doubt the birth rate in your hometown is above replacement if you live in the West
My city doesn’t even have Airbnb rentals (because it’s not worth visiting) yet we in the UK are still priced out of home ownership thanks to obscene increases in house prices. House prices are rising way more than wages / salaries. The greedy property market is to blame, not tourists.
@@notmenotme614 "The greedy property market". What does this mean? Honestly asking the question. Don't know about the UK. I work in affordable housing in the US. And the fact of the matter is that in the US, it is extremely hard to build housing. Even more so if it isn't expensive "McMansion" style housing. (Due to government zoning and other regulations along with neighborhood opposition issues). If you don't build houses, and people are living in smaller households (10 people used to live in 3 houses, but now 10 people live in 5 houses), and some of the houses are turned into Airbnbs, then you are going to get way less supply of housing of housing even with the same level of "demand". The example I gave is something that happens all the time in the US. And in the US the population is growing, so that means there is actually increasing "demand". You have to ask why home prices are increasing. It shouldn't be framed as blaming tourists. But the growth of Airbnbs and the like, along with the growth of "second" (or third, fourth, fifth, etc.) homes has definitely had a huge impact on the housing market. Along with the lack of building housing (and zoning/planning rules that encourage only expensive less dense housing).
Blaming increased housing prices only on Airbnb's is stupid. So is saying that Airbnb rentals don't affect the cost of housing. It's a false choice fallacy. Unless it is as easy to build a house/condo that becomes an Airbnb as it is to build a hotel room AND Airbnb owners pay the same taxes as hotel owners AND the city is building enough housing to replace the ones used by Airbnbs, Airbnb controls are necessary and important. The prices in your city would be worse without the controls. But the bigger issue (at least in the US) is zoning/building laws and NIMBYISM. And depending on where you are, the growth of corporate landlords buying up single family homes. Also smaller family sizes and growing population (neither are bad things, but again both mean you have to have more housing units, which is a problem is you aren't building enough / the ones built aren't available for people to live as full time residents).
@@stevecooper7883 There is not even a need for immigration. There are no tourists or immigrants in my city and housing prices have gone up tremendously. It's more that apartments that used to be occupied by 5 or 6 people are now occupied by one or two. So there is a need for many more apartments, even though there are fewer people.
I'm an engineer in Barcelona. I do building projects with architects. This year I've worked on three different hotels for the city of Barcelona. This is being allowed by the new mayor, who liften the ban to build new hotels from the previous mayor. Oh, and the overtourism is absolutely destroying the city, obviosly. The only people that won't agree are the hotels, restaurants and flying companies.
The downward spiral of Barcelona is real.
10 years ago the block where my grandparents lived was 90% Colombian and Dominican; not a single family remained after the rents went through the roof, they all had to move out of the metropolitan area while still working in the city.
The sewer system in Barcelona charged on every single major rainfall event in the last 10 years, to the point where the only logical solution was to spend millions in storm tanks, and that was before the peak of tourism. Last weekend I went to Barceloneta and the outfalls to the sea were full of shit, right next to hundreds of unaware tourists swimming and sunbathing.
Then there's the rise in crime, especially organised crime, which directly impacts the quality of life of locals still living in the city center. To add insult to injury these people also have to witness the closing of their favorite shops in favor of tourist traps, rise in rent prices, the demolition of their houses to build massive hotels and offices, the decaying state of public transportation, and obviously the shitty environmental conditions.
Authorizing new hotels may be ok if at the same time you bring down the number of Airbnbs, which displace local residents.
The problem in Barcelona isn't that there is turism but that the model of turism is unsustainable, this people are seeing there entire city become a turist atraction and is essentialy dying from success, my grandmother neighborhood has almost no residents left since all the apartments are now for turists and the few remaining are unafordable, they don't want to get rid of all turists what they want is to have all turists stay in hotels.
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Why are you spelling tourist and tourism wrong. It’s literally spelt correctly in the title of the video.
how about the locals pressure the government to create more resilient infrastructure instead of scaring away 80% of their income source
Because tourism isn’t profitable enough as to pay for that infrastructure
The problem as the video stated is that tourism is seasonal, expanding public transport or increasing infrastructure capacity would only work if the local population is big enough to maintain it. Otherwise you will have expensive trains running completely empty almost all year long only to be used on vacation time by tourists. A whole new economic model is needed to account for this kind of strain on the logistics of a city.
@@Leo-ok3uj17:08 taxes.
Because it's money for very few at the top, and everyone else try to survive while being priced out of their own homes
@@MariaRodriguez-dx6smnot really, many local businesses rely on tourism. Especially restaurants and hospitality. Can they suffer an 80% income loss.
Spain when something good happens to the economy -> complain
Spain when something bad happens to their economy (normal) -> complain
Too much is too much
Human being when thing happens (good or bad) -> complain
another alien W from Kepler 320B
Tourism is not necessarily something good happening to the economy.
It's not good for the economy, only the rich and influential benefit from this. The actual people living there struggle more.
I've lived in Spain, beautiful country but my God, these people just never stop bitching and complaining about EVERYTHING.
In Santorini before two months the mayor wrote on social media "Another difficult day for our city and island with the arrival of 17,000 visitors from cruise ships. We ask for your attention and reduce our movements outside as much as we can!" What can I add here? Just let that sink in...
If my major sent me a message like this, I'd probably go and stick myself to the harbor in protest (like the climate activists) this is ridiculous. There is no human right to travelling. You need to organise and protest in a very serious way
@@phoebeelat least tourists bring money.
There's another group of people who do not bring money, but they actually syphon it! Also they rape, steal, and do crime in general, but theyre allowed to come!
„Difficult Day“??? Yeah must be really tough banking anything between 198,9k and 377,9k for this group of tourists in one day. And that is calculated even with the reduced tax rate of 13%.
So yeah, good job for believing that rat of a mayor…
What does the sink want now?
As a Catalan near Barcelona I think that what we really need is more hotels and more houses.
Also taxing tourism doesn't seem bad. But what most Barcelonians and Spaniards want to reduce hotels and prohibit everything is the worst take and a very small minded mentality
That’s exactly what I think, I’m tired of people wanting to cut what gives us money because they don’t want to handle it correctly.
Like, bro, just build more housing, connect it correctly with the city and there you go, affordable homes with convenient access to the city.
Well, I think the biggest issue are those Airbnbs. Clearly Spain and other countries should limit the amount of short term housing at the same time they're building new hotels. Those older Airbnbs would be back to the long term rental market and tourism wouldn't suffer. They can also have higher taxes for tourists, particularly higher during peak season and invest those taxes in improving the infrastructure of the city center and nearby areas.
plus limit immigration
@@hellomycatingtheres already loads of rules and limits on airbnbs in bcn
@@skootzkadoodles well, not enough. Look at the population demonstrating.
I am in a popular tourist area in Australia, and it’s very stressing here. Over thousands of tourists strain out public transport. And if you try to take a good picture of the beach you’ll find someone’s head in your picture. This is the problem with 1st world countries tourism is getting to far and straining supplies and housing for locals.
Bondi? I'm fron Brisbane
The mayor of Kyoto Japan has been scapegoating tourists lately too. Much like that case I imagine the real problem is mismanagement.
Japan only likes Japanese.
Kyoto is basically a city museum. He need to not blame tourists less and learn to handle them better.
@@davidGA殿 Yes. Most places that focus on tourism today are either run by incompetents or carnival hucksters.
Kyoto is infamously one of (if not the) most corrupted cities in Japan due to mismanagement so I can see why the tourist scapegoat seems appealing
Kyoto is mostly well managed, I can see tourists being the problem.
The thing is tourists do go home. It’s easier to blame them than the real problem that these particular cities are experiencing. Yes holiday LETS need addressing I think that they are harmful however there is another even larger issue to deal with.
Rich people buying up land and houses. Renovict renters. So people won't get new appartments. It is so easy to blame issues on tourists or migrants. 2008 the financial crisis booted an entire year off the tracks. Especially in Spain.
@@Canleaf08people always blame foreigners
Yeah people from the Iberian peninsula are not known to be particularly smart
Yeah, our main problem is focusing on tourism
Tourists go home is just a slogan, organisations know perfectly the problem is not tourists individually but the system
Protesting the tourists instead of how tourism is handled by the people in charge is just hypocritical, especially by southern europeans.
All of them have been tourist themselves before.
I think they’re protesting because of how it’s handled. They are not against tourism, but the quantity of tourists and lack of housing for the natives.
It’s pretty common here to blame the thing that makes us money instead of demanding a better handling of affairs. I dislike it intensively.
@svdgnl No, they're absolutely protesting against tourists themselves. Large mobs of angry people like that do not rally behind nuanced takes like "we need to better manage our tourism system." They form behind inflammatory takes and classic propaganda tactics like "The Foreigners (tm) are invading our country and ruining everything in it and we need to kick them out."
@@svdgnl Then explain why the protests were targeting tourists specifically.
@@davidGA殿 The people in power make money from it, but your average joe gets limited benefits and all of the downsides. If you collectively request to ban it, people uptop need to share the benefits or lose it/.
In the Canary Islands, for instance, wealthy European foreigners are purchasing multiple properties from locals and converting them into Airbnb rentals. This practice is creating a housing shortage and driving up rental and sale prices for the limited remaining properties. While the islands may experience economic growth, this growth primarily benefits non-resident property owners who exploit the islands for financial gain. Locals, facing stagnant wages but rising living costs, are struggling to afford rent and basic necessities. Additionally, businesses often cater to tourists, pricing goods and services beyond the reach of locals. As a result, many residents are forced to leave their homeland to make way for affluent foreigners and tourists.
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It's true though, world-class crimes against humanity
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@@DJstarrfish that goes for all world class companies! Though the VOC was particularly bad
Shell is based in London.
How do the people who were firing water guns at tourists even know if someone is a tourist or not
Listen whether they speak Catalan, I guess.
You can spot Brits from afar
In well travelled cities, there are always hotspots that attract tourists. And if you've lived long enough somewhere, you can spot outsiders easily.
It was on La Rambla: no locals would patron establishments around there
professional racism, Spain basically invented it.
I will never understand the appeal of going to a destination thats already overrun. Why not go to lesser known places and support the local economy? Everytime I see videos like that it looks like a total nightmare of a vacation.
sometimes it's more hassle to go to the lesser known places. like requiring more flights, not to mention lesser information on the internet unlike the major places where everything's mapped out. you're essentially exploring a new land
Going to a place overrun with tourists is a big turn off for me. Being in a crowd with other clueless tourists seems awful.
@@lillyie How about not going at peak season then? Nothing wrong with going to mapped out places but why go at peak season then if most know it will be crowded? Do people not care?
There was some online chatter about ppl coming to visit my hometown of Vermont (New England area) this fall because of all the autumn foliage videos they’ve seen, and I’m so excited to show ppl what it’s like, words can’t even begin to describe the feeling. If you have a chance bring the fam and come check it out yall😊
several reasons, there are less options for things to do. For example, when I travel I still want to go to the gym and exercise but in small towns there are no Gyms which means I cant keep my training. In that sense, if I go to a small twon it has to be for less time than a city or a bigger town with a gym. This happens with several things, places where to dance, places where to swim etc. Also, in some places the only acces is by using a car and since is a small town with low density that means everything is far away which makes me depend more on cars. I could use a bike but not everyone in my family can. Big cities have big networks of public transportation which solves that problem
the thing with amsterdam is mostly that the mayor is tired of drug and prostitution tourism, nobody has trouble if people behave themselves but because the city is most famous for having legal drugs and hookers its a go to spot for young tourists who want to go somewhere they can have an experience not held back by laws. also considering the fact that there is mafia involvement in pretty much all of the touristy things in amsterdam, a big part of why they want to reduce tourism is to make the mafias weaker
You should come to the UK, the biggest mafia is our own government. They’re more corrupt than any other mafia.
Imagine flying half way across the world just for weed and vagina LOL
We have mafia?
0:10 this isn't surprising. The population goes up over time, so it makes sense that every 2-3 years everything will be the most its ever been and set some type of record. For anything that's about the number of people
Yeah I hate when people just forget the fact that global population skyrocketed in the last century. One particularly annoying one is politicians saying they have the most voters in the history of the country, well yeah because there are more people that can vote in the country
5:08 "So do wages and salaries" LMAOOOOOO
As a Spanish guy, living in Madrid and Valencia, and knowing people who've worked in the bartentding industry as well as other testimonies from people online, they're definitely NOT raising wages, in fact, people are denouncing the shitty conditions of that working sector that people just don't want to work there, and the worse part is, they aren't even trying to actually raise the saliries.
In croatia it's next lvl, they made the salaries so low that they couldn't hire anyone, so they decided to import the 3rd world to handle these jobs. Currently the country is filled by people from nepal working and living in barely livable spaces. There's no trickle down, wealth get's concentrated even more in hands of a few.
That's sad
We actually struggle in the US with the opposite. A lot of bartenders or servers will end up making loads more than their managers or possibly the owners in some cases especially if you’re attractive and or charming and or a woman in a tourist spot omg. That’s why tipping is absurd, it’s basically more-so a way for people to get paid based on how bangable they are than actually doing their job. The only defenders of tipping these days are the service people getting tipped. I can’t speak for Spain but it’s totally true in general that touristy areas have higher wages but that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily something you consciously witness rising, you more so gotta think about whether a bartender in the most touristy parts of Madrid would make more than a bartender in a remote bumfuck area
stop voting for socialists then lol.
Facts, I've been trying to get a job in hospitality in Italy and the very most I'll find in terms of salary is 1100 Euro/month.
Im going there for a school trip 💀
Rest in peace
Whole class getting jumped
rip
I'm native from Barcelona, you won't have any problem.
You'll be fine the main touristy areas are perfectly safe.
I think the main Problem is Airbnb and sites like it. You should just ban this in the most popular Places and encurage them in less known Places.
Have fun with the Airbnb owners rallying up and calling you every possible name ever because you are curtailing the business. I am from Spain, I don't know about you, but oh boy. We spanish loooove to protest
Airbnb isn't even 1% of housing. It's much more about mismanagement
I'm in nyc and airbnb is banned and our housing crisis is worse than ever
@@sonderexpeditions yeah largely because of blackrock and dealings between politicians and major landlords
@@sonderexpeditions NYC is some special kind of bullshit. The highest tax take in the world, but... relatively underfunded services, where is the money going exactly then? Over a hundred billion a year is just outright stolen, that's where. So because action isn't being taken because the money is stolen and there aren't well funded authorities, you have complete organised crime control of the construction and housing industries. Plus who wants to work investigating that? You will end up at the bottom of a river pronto.
Excessive tourism and airbnb made Athens very expensive for the locals. For many Greek people is almost impossible to live here anymore. I don't care about the "benefits", this must be stopped or at the very least, heavily regulated.
What about mykonos and the other tourist traps?
Those are even worse.
People would blame literally everyone instead of facing the fact the CEOs and billionaires are the source of every single problem in society
preach
But why?!?!
@@haydnw869 the selfish gene. do I need to explain more?
@@Robert_D_Mercer actually yes please
Cool it with the anti semetic remarks
Us Spaniards wouldn't be so annoyed at tourists if we saw the benefits of it, but some places of Spain don't even have train…
Yeah I think that’s the thing people don’t understand, I’m not in Spain, but I’m in a really popular tourist area in California and the average person just doesn’t see the benefits of tourism or the tourism economy, we just get the negatives and we prefer not to have it (or at least have it in a smaller volume were the negatives aren’t as overwhelming)
Hospitality jobs suck and don’t pay even close enough to live at or near the area (need to work 2-4 jobs just to afford rent in a crappy area near the tourist spots/ your old homes. We either need better distribution of that tourism money or less tourism, because the current model sucks for most of the residents and it’s why you see backlash/ hate for tourism around the world at tourist destinations.
I mean you should probably be petitioning your government for better use of tourist revenue right?
Getting mad at the tourists for something they’re not in charge of is like screaming at an oil deposit for not being equitably distributed around every citizen
Yall have trains outside of the capital?
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I thought Spaniards have free healthcare? Tourism funds that.
@@Thegreatshark656 Thats what we did, no changes done.
You post this video 10 minutes after I booked my trip to Malta, oops
you dont owe any explanation to some random youtuber
@@gawkthimm6030 whoopsie daisy
@@MHX11 no need, Hope your trip to Malta is great, I want to go there and see the History
It's fine now, protests were only at the peak of the season when it became unbearable for the locals.
Malta is beautiful, nice choice. and they don't have overtourism.
Hotel bans happen because in a fully developed municipality (aka, there's almost zero brownfield) like barcelona, the new hotels replace old residential property stock with what is essentially 100% tourist rentals
this, the ban on hotels is not to stop new hotels where there is space for them, its because a lot of the new hotels are being build by transforming what used to be building where people had homes
This sounds like a grave error/greed to not prevent this from happening in the first place. Can anyone afford rent with a normal job?
@@muaowa Average rent in barcelona is 1.136 euros, while the average salary is 1.516, so a lot of people have to go to other cities "near" barcelona taking 1 to 2 hours to arrive at work.
In mallorca there was news that the medics had to live in vans because most rent was short term oriented or extremely expensive
@@Kurainuz That’s crazy as hell, so basically Barcelona is being run like San Fransisco? I’d be mad too
@@muaowa not as bad as we at least have public healthcare but barcelona concentrates a lot of the mediterranean industry and tourism, politicians using independence to its prime territory for real state "investors" at the cost of normal people, wich sadly is happening a lot around the world with every big or touristic city
Ive always found that slogan funny, tourists go home by definition
I was born and raised in Barcelona all my life, like my friends and family, and honestly, we couldn't care less about the tourists. They only go to their 4 touristic places, they eat in tourists restaurants and party in tourists clubs, they literally live in a different city.
They are a pain indeed if for some reason you need to go to those areas, but you avoid it at certain times, and usually there's no reason to go there.
The people you see watering those poor tourists probably live in those super (few) touristic areas, RIP for them honestly, but most of the city has no tourists. The Airbnbs do put some pressure on the price, but only in those pockets of tourists, trust, no tourist would like to leave where I leave, far away from all the attractions, as a matter of fact, surrounding areas of the city have higher prices than the city itself, just like most cities around the world, housing is unaffordable, they try to blame BnBs, but I don't think is the case.
He showcased this in the Venice example, where slowly the whole Island is/has become such a "tourist-only" city. The thing about cities, is that historically the richer ones tend to grow and absorb poorer ones, don't be surprised when more and more of your city will be incentivized to become more for and like those "tourist areas", until you live in one.
Getting rid of cruise ships would be a good first step. Unlike regular tourists who sleep and eat in the city, cruise visitors basically don't contribute anything to the economy
But at least they don’t rent airbnbs, which is one of the main complaints
The port fees cruise ships pay are enormous, but I agree, large cruise ships shouldn't be right in the city centre, and the amount of visitors should be proportional to the destination size.
Santorini for example is completely swamped, whereas there's plenty of larger cities that can absorb hundreds of thousands of people per day easily.
I'm all on board for adding a daily tourist tax.
I went to Barcelona this year and god bless those people for dealing with us for so long
1:59 I work as a geolgist in the mining sector. Yes, a mine sucks up an initial investment, but the amount of salary and taxes it gives back to the local community will rapidly make up for that. Communities with few jobs and no money can turn into wealthy communities with high employment in just a few years. And while the resource will eventually dry up, that won't be an issue if the community invests the money rather than spending it all immediately.
If anything, the comparison to mining is a positive argument for tourism.
Mining licenses etc. are heavily regulated and would not be granted if you were to just extract all the wealth and not pay well. Whereas tourism, they just allow private operators to compete and wash their hands of it and say oh well the market will do its thing and pay people pennies. It would be impossible to regulate the thousands of individual companies involved, it'd cost more in governmental oversight than the tax they could even bring in.
I went to Spain and spoke with the locals right after the protests. We spoke with the locals who worked in the service industry and they all said they themselves shut the protests down. The protests were hurting their wallets.
Most of the service industry workers are immigrants
Lol that’s ironic
It seems a lot of young Barcelonans don't know what Barcelona used to look like before mass tourism...
There's a fine middle ground between "no tourists" and "too much tourists"
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan dont bite the hands that feeds you tho, and portest against the gov, not the people visiting, its so fucking strange.
@@MunchenerFrance people are not stupid, protests aren't essentially against tourists.
But the thing is that people in touristy spots hate them and other parts of the country don't care. So nothing is done by politicians
@@MunchenerFrance Did the evil government make you to visit a tourist hellhole, when you really didn't want to? Face it, no one makes you or anyone to visit a place suffering from overtourism, it is everyone's own choice where they will travel and where they do not. So, people really are the ones to blame: instead of going somewhere where tourists are actually welcome, they go to the exact same place that millions of people every year also go. And I say this as "part of the problem", I'm one of those people myself. I just don't see a reason to blame someone else for my actions.
@@gerardp.f.5869 Rewatch 2:55 if you think "nothing is done by politicians". But people still come, because you can't really stop people from coming, because hey it's Amsterdam/Barcelona/Venice, and there's no legal reason to prevent them from coming.
The issue with Overtourism to me comes from low value costumers that come en masse, have all expenses paid with nice packs from their tour operators that end up bringing the community a negative interest, I'm born and raised in Palma and we're tired of our infrastructure constantly failing to catch up with the surges in population and the increased criminality in the areas where these garbage tourists go.
It's not that we don't want more Tourism, we want better tourists that provide more value and specially, particularly, reduce our seasonality.
Politicians can't seem to grasp these things, neither are journalists.
EDIT: We've had for 3 years a direct flight from the US to Palma, for the first time in history, but everyone that I talk to loves Americans, cause they come with expensive trips, want good food and spend good money in general, that's what the island needs, more money, better tourists.
@@Didacmmv to be honest, most of these destinations are desirable precisely because they are so cheap. If I want to spend 5k I can hop on a plane virtually anywhere, I don't think I'd fly to Palma. Everyone wants to climb up the value ladder, but very few can actually pull that off.
lol, just say you want more money out of tourists, no need to write a bible
@@mysterioanonymous3206 I'm not saying everyone that comes in here must have an expensive trip, but if you cut on the cheapest most low value customers that actually are net negative and start bringing in people with longer stays and less tour operator packages the communities and the country would benefit more
@@msergio0293 Obviously that's the objective, if we have such demand and it's forever increasing at a certain point it stops being sustainable if we don't make it more profitable, we need bigger everything just for a few months of the year and that is not cheap or smart
Actually no.
The problem is the rich tourists.
They use resources, especially water and space.
They have huge villas/golf courses in Mallorca, for example, with green areas that are empty 99% of the year.
They buy the residents' houses and give nothing in return.
Spain tourist industry wiping their tears with tons of cash be like:
As an Iowan, Fall is the best time to visit! Corn fielda galore!
Lol, I love your comment 😊
Unironically, I went to Nebraska once from Colorado for an eclipse, and the moisture coming from all the corn during the sun block out was insanely cool, and just being surrounded by high rows of nothing but crops on all sides driving down the highway. We aren’t wet enough in Colorado to get that level of humidity or greenery, it’s mostly plains outside of the mountains and even a lot of the mountains are so high there’s just rocks and snow lol.
I got lost with my fiancé and his sister in Iowa while driving past a massive maze of corn fields. I have never felt such dread in my life.
“Where is human life?!”
“We have no working GPS and no phone signal!”
“F^^^^^^^CK!”
Fun times. 😊
My Bf lives in Spain. The issue isn't the tourists, it's the government not properly controlling things such as cost of living and allowing things such as air bnb to massively drive up housing prices. This is literally just incompetent locals lashing out at the wrong people, not surprising considering it's Catalonia doing it.
AirBNB is ALSO locals, in the end, isn't it?
@@txquartz No, drives away families and fills the town with brits pissing on the street.
@@txquartz Not entarilly true, as a lot of airbnbs in turist places are owned by small companies that are part of a bigger foreign investment one for example.
And there is rich rusians, english and germans that have a lot of apartments too.
Add to that that the ones that are trully locals and profit more from airbnb are people like the 1700 people of madrid that own 50+ apartment each
Scary, stuff like this never happens in Morocco.
Well except Tangiers and a few Marrakech neighborhoods. in Mauritania such things will never happen lol
Right but the government would never pass laws that primarily benefit Catalonia. Infact I would bet they would refuse to even pass laws which help the rest of Spain just to punish Catalonia. We get exactly the same problem here in Scotland from the UK.
i went to madrid to study in 2022 and it wasn’t bad at all tourist wise
but i went to germany, switzerland, italy, austria, and hungary in 2018 and my god i couldn’t even imagine how you’d be able to live in vienna, venice, florence, or rome. so many tourists crowding the streets everywhere, clogging up every museum and attraction, being loud leaving trash around. must be absolutely miserable living in any of those cities in the summer.
The Airbnb problem can be it’s own video, there is so much to tell about that topic and housing problems
If spain doesnt accept then come to Kraków, Poland. Not only are we the more beautiful city, we also would like all of you to come here and spend your money here
Bruh do you actually believe Poland can compete with Spain 😂
Many go for the great weather, architecture, history and food, and sorry homie, but no one is going to krakow for the weather and food 😂, you do have some nice architecture and history though, just not going to compete with the warmer southern European destinations on a macro level.
whgo would go to poland, to look as jew shoes on the camps? fun for 10mins
I want to visit Poland, my wife is nervous about it though. What are some recommendations? I’ve been trying to convince her a couple years
@@morriskaller3549you clearly don't know anything about Poland.
6:30
out of any city in the uk, i think milton keynes is the LEAST appealing one to visit😭
seconded. Like, even Plymouth sounds interesting. Especially want to see how Cornwall is like.
@@aidenbooksmith2351 cornwall, too many londoners with summer homes, the locals dont want you there and its hard to get fish and chips!
I wasnt that impressed, its way too costly and its just another uk coastal region (plus the eden project is a right rip off!)
Hull, Bradford, Portsmouth? Milton Keynes is shit but there's definitely worse 😂
@@Zah045Hull isnt that bad now to be honest
@@Zah045 Ironically Bradford Council proposed advertising one of their worst streets as a tourist destination… maybe people will come to see how bad it is and what it’s like to live in the lawless third world? Recently a film studio was filming 28 Years Later in Bradford (a film about post-apocalyptic life).
The fact that people would rather their country go bankrupt than deal with tourists is telling. Seriously, without tourism, Spain ceases to exist.
Spain existed for centuries before 21st century tourism, but whateverrrr
I must say I'm a hypocrite tho coz I visited Barcelona this year and also I'd dislike it if my home city became overrun by tourists
Funny how Spain existed for 99% of its history without tourism.
No country needs tourism to exist.
@@AGW99-df3yg
Aight then where you gonna get your money? Another bailout from Germany and other nations that have an actual economy?
What a bollock! You're probably an immigrant trying to go Europe as a tourist and sneak away for permanent settlement, which happens a lot. Bad news for you, isn't it? Smh.
@@AGW99-df3yg ....You gonna ask a bailout from the EU or something? Where the bumfuck is your industry? Oh your farming? It's gonna get screwed over by heatwaves getting more frequent due to climate change (Sea of Plastic guys are doing great tho)
Imagine thriving off of tourism and then crying about tourism
Western Europeans loving crying for all the wrong reasons, that's for sure but hey, if they want less money and more Islam
going on a trip to western france this month, i'd much rather go to a city of 75-150k people with a rich history & culture (Besancon & Dijon to be specific) than go to Paris, for like 3x the cost, to see a bunch of tourists taking pictures of the historic stuff.
@@editsbysouth spot on. I can't stand touristy places anymore... I'd rather not travel than visit these hellholes.
Ive been to Barcelona btw and it's alright, but I don't think it's a place you have to see. I wouldn't go back that's for sure and I probably wouldn't recommend it....
Unlike a select few other touristy places that shall remain unnamed but are more than worth it, despite the masses.
The best kind of places are places the tourists from the country would go to but with not as many foreign tourists.
@@wlink639 That is not the case in the UK hahaha. Imagine a big trip of a lifetime here... to go visit Skegness or a Butlins or some shit xD (not many people holiday in the Highlands of Scotland for example as we cannot afford it, or at least it would cost the same to go somewhere very exotic so...).
@@Bozebo Skegness, Blackpool and Clacton should act as a warning about what happens when tourists leave. I mean mass unemployment, empty shops, derelict buildings and drugs is what everyone wants instead right?
Ban Airbnb and build more hotels
Where I live they did that
More governments should tightly regulate this. They've let the housing market get destroyed by these rich people
the amount of people alive makes this ovy that more people travel as we have more people
"More people voted for me than ever!" -well duh, pop growth
@@duncanluciak5516 yeah I always find that argument to be so trashed I would love it if a president said 50% of America voted for me or 70% of American voters voted for me that sounds impressive
Not the most people ever voted for me ever when there's more people than ever
thats what overpopulation is, friend
5:14 thanks for using a Sloths, our national animal, for Costa Rica. You can’t imagine how much that animal identifies the culture and lifestyle of the country (for good and for bad).
Tourists - go home, refugees - welcome. That's how you call this mindset.
One little caveat: it's not entirely clear WHERE short-term rentals come from housing-wise. The assumption is usually "they come from owner-occupied housing" but at least in the US that doesn't really seem to be the case. San Francisco has lower residential vacancy (a residential unit is vacant if it is not occupied full-time as a primary residence) now than it did in 2000. It appears instead that other underused properties - second homes, vacation homes, units held in absentia for whatever reason - have shifted usage towards short-term rentals.
Idk how it was in usa but here in spain a lot of apartments used to be homes that could have been rented for long stays or sold to normal people have become short term rents (a 55%increase) and residential vacancy is misleading here, a lot, as its based on the province and not the city most of the time so it includes conflict and drug zones, and also the zones outside of cities that are full of old places nobody wants as they lack basic services.
Another example a russian investment firm in my neighborhood has been buying out a lot of apartments as owners die of old age and and turning it into airbnbs, and its a very common ocurrence.
Most of the empty apartments that are not rented its because owners are trying to sell them, being scared or too busy to rent, and no investment firm has tried buying it, and as most young people in seach of a home cant afford the 20% of the total cost + taxes of the apartment worth that banks demand to grant you a morgage, said apartments end up not being empty.
Countries that rely economically on tourism when they loose their tourists
Me going to a school trip to Barcelona in 3 weeks:
"... Guess I'll cancel now"
Blud, Barcelona is alright and you'll have fun. I live there and it's not a hellhole as long as you stay in tourist ass places for too long
Nobody is going to harm you lmao or harass you or shout at your face "tourists go home". Just be aware of pickpockets and you'll be good and don't treat the city as theme park (even though It might already feel like one lol). Anyways, enjoy your time here
I just hope anti-tourist movements don't turn out to be a prelude to mass xenophobia.
dont worry, we already had mass xenophobia before the movements apeared. And tbh most people just want a regulated tourism like before airbnbs and ilegal apartments became massive.
It’s mainly the same thing / scapegoat just dressed up in a different coat. And as always it will be equally ineffective in solving whatever problem people actually have.
I hope it does. The world has become too small that uncontacted amazonian tribes are at my frontdoor.
@@LuxiBelle You make me sad
Too late
I am old enough to remember just how poor Spain was 40 years ago. Poor roads, no motorways, infrastructure that had fallen apart, power cuts every day, streets that flooded with all sorts of horrible things when it rained and no to very little industry. The population was one of the poorest in Europe with high unemployment, the population was living in bad and overcrowded housing. That changed when tourism came in the 1970s and 1980s. Since then, the country has benefitted from tourist’s money so much, the standard of living has improved immeasurably. I fully understand the feelings about housing, especially with Airbnb removing properties from the locals. This is something the respective governments need to address, not take it out on the people who bring the wealth.
My family was planning to have a two-week holiday in Spain in the summer of 2024. Following the protests and abuse of tourists there, we chose not to, it will be many years before we ever think of returning to the Balearics or Spanish mainland. Which is a great pity. We are all Spanish speakers who frequent where the locals go, shop in the local shops and markets, and assimilate into the Spanish culture. In fact, I type this comment while lying on my bed in a Greek 5-star hotel. Our favourite Spanish village of Cala d’Or has lost out on our total family spending of €11,000 for the 14 nights.
Nor do they remember the civil war and the dictator who ruined it for 40 years. My uncle survived Franco and all of it, lived in an orphanage till he came to America.
Spain has come a long way, tourist problems are a joke compared to where they were before it.
If you are so integrated into Spanish culture how would protestors have identified you as tourists?
You just an ignorant as he comes. Spain ignorant was a dictatorship living under an international embargo. Then Franco died but we didn’t grow because the tourists. Just stay in your gray rainy Britain and teach history to your ignorant neighbors. Who are you to teach to Spain a colonialism monarchy that exploited many countries during many years. Yeah Botswana was British you guys only want to steal the diamonds. And because of that we don’t want you in Spain.
I don’t know I was in Andalusia couple of weeks ago and it was awesome. Not many people and as Wildlife Photographer Enthusiast I know where I have to go to be completely alone sometimes 😅
Oh ñyooooo, Mr. Noncester doesn’t want to come to Spain anymore, oh nyooooo.
You have no idea how paternalistic and annoying you sound.
I live in naples and nowdays its really hard to find a long-term rental apartement, and when u do find it, its probably at double the price of five years ago
8:02 ARMENIA MENTIONED RAAAHHHHHHHH🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
As an Icelander, I see this as an absoulute win
(Half of our economy is tourism)
What I find ridiculous is the tourists go home refugees welcome signs. You just know these will be the first people to protest and whinge when there’s no more money and less welfare is offertes to them.
nice strawman dude. I've never seen any of those signs. shush
@@bepsi6204 Really? wow you mustn't have been paying attention. if you type 'tourists go home' onto google its literally the second suggestion.
@@AlexC-ou4ju that guy is walking around with his eyes shut and says 'if I can't see it, it isn't happening.'
@@AlexC-ou4justfu low wage worker
@@AlexC-ou4ju I've been to many "anti tourist" protests. didn't hear or see anyone talk about refugees. Found one pro refugee grafitti halfway down Google
But when you Europeans come to the USA we don’t complain.
They are not just complaining about US American tourists. The majority of tourists in southern Europe are coming from other European countries. There are also more and more Chinese tourists.
Also, Europe gets more than 10 times the amount of tourists that North America gets.
I went on an Italian cruise line around Italy this summer and over half of the tourists were, you guessed it, Spanish. So there is definitely some hypocrisy happening here.
Absolutely. Tourism has certainly become a big problem in many cities, but those writing the “Tourists go home” don’t even realize that they’re tourists too elsewhere.
Spanish youth in Ireland over the summer is one of the most common tropes in this country. Typically, school to uni age, for a bit over a couple or decades
Actually it’s cheaper for Spaniards to travel outside their country in many cities. Airbnb and hotels have outrageous prices this year, and everywhere is crowded.
The Mediterranean coast has essentially become a tourist theme park with the same shops, restaurants and Chinese souvenir crap
@@sopota6469 I live in Venice, I know how expensive it is, it is certainly not more convenient than Spain. Why are we still full of Spanish people?
Nah, fam, it's hypocrisy, pure and simple. They don't want the issue of overcrowding and trash and shitty clients at their front door, but they also want to go on a vacation and contribute to overcrowding and trash and at times being shitty clients at someone else's door (they are consistently the worst ones I encounter, not a representation of the country but still not a good look)
Never understood the appeal of the Mediterranean; its too salty and flat, at least when considering the beaches.
currently on the beginning of a 2 week road trip. surprised to see a relevant hoser vid
i had to move out of barcelona because a subpar apartment costs the same as the minimum wage, else i starve or go homless.
The thing about girona specifically, is one of the few places in spain where they implemented rent price limits, meaning that they can't go over a price set by the goverment. So you can imagine what happen when there is a supply issue in housing (due no building new houses and decline in rent places due the law) + a increase in demand (mainly due natives + tourist), the last stadistics made by the goverment said they increased house demand for each available place in rent by 4 times. Obviusly landlords moved they rent from normal housing to short duration/tourism, as with the current issue with squatters and lack of protection for private ownership, it will make sense to go the easy route and safe. It's a complicated issue, but spanish goverment just don't want to find a solution because is easier to just blame landlords and greedy banks, instead of just fix the supply issue.
3:15... The EU made them stop with the $5 Euros to enter Venice. I was just there this past August and it was indeed crowded. I would have paid $100 to just enter Venice, so the $5 is really a joke. Btw... I paid $90 Euros for a 30 minute gondola ride. In Venice you just fork it over. There is no place like it in the world.
i think the issue is with freedom of movement, and yea fair, they should make exceptions to that
Agreed, Venice is the only almost all tourist city I have been to that’s really worth it. Dubrovnik was a scam tho pretty, avoid it imo. Monaco is pretty good but $$$$$$ I’m going to Paris soon heard from a French speaking Canadian no less that they were rude, we’ll see.
Those 5 euros stopped no one, those day Venice had a record number of tourists
@@ZacharyBelli Paris is recognized worlwide for being a city of rude people. Go to a charming countryside village in the mountains instead, you'll get more of it.
Corruption and poor work conditions are killing Spain.
The Economist researched the number of tourists compared with the number of inhabitants. This shows: for every inhabitant, Amsterdam receives 10.1 tourists. Paris follows with 8 tourists for every inhabitant. Milan (6.3), Barcelona (5.9), Malaysian Kuala Lumpur (5.4) complete the top 5. As an inhabitant of Amsterdam, I welcome tourists. I would however advise them not to flock together, but also visit other places if they want to see the real Amsterdam.
Ja, maar ze zouden ook naar de omliggende kleinere steden kunnen gaan.
Al heb ik als Haarlemmer ook al wel voldoende last van tourisme... godsamme wat maken die rolkoffers een hoop herrie over de kinderkopjes. Met name om half 3 's nachts...
Governments and locals will blame anyone but themselves. Decades of building restrictions and lack of new infrastructure created their problems not tourist. It's pathetic.
It’s the same thing with migrants. The government or nationalists will scapegoat to ignore the real causes.
It's not pathetic. You don't know because you live in a pathetic place with no tourist.
@@IbnWobblermigrants truly do not bring anything of benefit in economic movement or net worth and tax your social services . There is a legit grievance with illegal unregulated immigration
Absurd comment. City centres don't get larger. Amsterdam has seen a 60-70% increase in tourism over the past decades. But its historical city centre is still the same size it was in the 17th century. There's no space to accommodate tourists and the actual people who have to live and work there. Trying to spread tourists around the city don't work, because in the end they all want to see the canals, the museums and the red light district. The same goes for a lot of European cities. No matter what you do, a historical city centre can hold a finite amount of people
I worked in Jackson Hole for 6 summers until 2022. It is the gateway to Yellowstone and sees millions of tourists a year. Housing is the main issue there, with the average home priced over a million. The work force drives from the next state over daily, and they all love to hate on tourists for ruining their amazing town. But the reality is tourism elevated everyone’s pay to an insane level. I worked two jobs at two different restaurants as a busser and food runner (which is considered a bottom tier job) and my hourly ranged between $25 and $35 an hour depending on the day. Several of my coworkers would live out of their car, work for the summer tourism season, then spend the other half of the year traveling and not working. I guess it boils down to tipping culture, where the workers themselves get to see the benefits of tourism directly.
I loved jackson hole. I was bartendint for a summer there and i stayed nearby in a place called MOOSE WY. Had great time, work a shift, rest go rock climbing and kayaking and explore the tetons lakes and beauty
I was in Spain Barcelona before on a class trip it was super duper awesome. I usually do not go on vacation but this year i was on Vacation TWICE. One time in Italy and next week on a class trip to Slovenia.
*Catalonia
@@dws49 You can´t care about Catalunya and call it Catalonia, choose. Realistically, only internet people outside of Catalunya care about independance.
@@dws49 ?
@@dws49 Tabarnia*
I feel bad cuz my family always loves rentals (we like to cook our own food and hotels never have a big kitchen) but I think the solution shouldn't be "don't buy rentals", it should be "go visit non touristy locations and boost their economy"
The hate for tourists is just a socially acceptable form of xenophobic scapegoating IMO. At the very least blame it on the rich locals selling your city to foreigners
The old supply and demand conundrum, who's to blame the supplier or the demand? Is it the drug dealer or the user?
Well for this case I don't think either is an issue. If you made your home look so nice that everyone wants to come there that's great, and if it becomes a problem for you, limit them. If that's a problem for the residents, they should move. Cause I don't think it's an issue any which way you cut it, it's not a travesty, it's a glory.
those are foreigners too, they are the only ones buying now and renting, spaniards cannot buy. Check the stats of mortgages
The tourists are the rich local's weapon against the worker. To combat the latter, you need to combat the former.
@@constantinethecataphract5949the rich would stop bothering trying to hire you or even dealing with your regulations and go to more economic vibrant areas like Germany and USA . Why bother with Ignorant provincials with no net worth to do business with
I lived in Spain for many years. I live in Lorton, Virginia now. Famous for its prison, landfill, and sewage treatment plant. My rent for a 2-bedroom is $2600/month. My mortgage pre-divorce and pre-pandemic for a 3-bedroom townhouse w garage was $1800 in a less central location,
Tourism is not the problem.
“Tourists go home”… ok I will go and take my money with me and I will spend it somewhere else. The brutal reality is some places have absolutely zero industry other than tourism and their economy would collapse with tourists. I know this as in the UK, coastal towns have been decimated by declining tourism and has lead to high unemployment.
How much tax revenue does Rome and Venice make from tourists?
Ironically I once rented an Airbnb off a left wing political activist, it was her second property, I wonder what she really thinks about tourists? Or are they a virtue signalling hypocrite?
Please do. Don't come here. Thank you.
Cutting of tourist money means being forced to build an actual domestic industry
@@darkwill15Your country ain't worth the pay honestly
@@aagamanpokhrel4113 great. Don't come then ;D
So funny tourists who think "ok i will go elsewhere then" will be missed. My guy people literally don't want any more people like you. Yes please, fuck off, that's all people are asking
So the biggest solution would be to ban or limit rentals significantly. Then hotels will be booked and the price to visit will rise because of scarcity.
Work with the hotel to give more benefit to those that book for longer stays.
Then if there's an under tourised spot the price will be way cheaper and development can go to these zones.
Finally start capping immigration that brings in new poorer citizens.
Am i missing something? Seems pretty simple, the only issue is political bribery
People should go to Moldova instead. It's like the country with the fewest tourists in Europe
yes they should
yea and i wonder why
i think ukraine have less unarmed turist
If you wanna see what most of the soviet union looked like, visit moldova
Barcelona population: we don’t want tourists
Barcelona: collapse back to whatever industrial ruin it was before Olympic’92
Barcelona population: how does this happen😮
Some nerve from a continent that has colonize everywhere on the planet
so Barcelona's locals must pay? listen to yourself.
@@Bakaaahsjflflakahhdkf yes
Spain was around Latin America for the most part tho, and yet there isn’t that many non spinard Hispanic immigrants in Spain
One of the problems I face as a traveller is the crazy moneygrabbing from hotels, that is keeping travellers away from them. For example, in some hotel rooms, in the cheap side (circa 100 x 2 people a night), you don't even get a coffe machine in the room, so you have to pay at least 2 euros for a coffe, they will give you a water heater if you are lucky and nowere to sit if not your bed or a single uncomfortable chair for eating a meal you bought (that you cannot heat, because almost no room in hotels have microwaves). Lot of hotels charge even 15 euros a day for a mediocre breakfast and same thing for the parking, lots of money, and if there is a restaurant in the hotel usually is super expensive and mediocre. So, why should I pay that kind of money for almost no service? I book a house, with a complete kitchen, a fridge, a sofa, a dining table, a wardrobe and so on... If hotels will raise their standards, no problem, but for now... no way.
Yeah I want to cook my own food with local ingredients, that's half the point in travelling. Hotels are useless for that (a minority have self catering but guess what... much more expensive than an airb&b), and just why is their food so unbelievably bad anyway? Surely it cost more to research how to specifically make terrible food on purpose that is otherwise impossible if you just cook normally?
I don't know if they're a thing in the rest of the world, but we do have "guest houses" in the UK which are a good alternative sometimes, small owner occupied hotels. You can just ask to use their kitchen and they are almost guaranteed to be happy to let you.
Your problem is going to a 15 euro/day hotel jfc, I’m surprised they even give you a roof
@@Bozebo exactly and also I live to feel like a traveler or a local when I go to a country that’s why AIRBNB is so attractive over a hotel . I love to stay in the little neighborhoods away from the centre but not too far . My own kitchen and space and a balcony or veranda . Airbnb beats a hotel by miles . I don’t like to feel like a tourist my type of travel is to fit in
85% of those convicted for violent crimes in Barcelona were born outside Spain. That's a bigger problem than tourists being rude (they do leave by the end of the week anyways)
same problem in all eu
The mass of tourists are what bring the drug cartels, pickpocket/bandit gangs in the first place to Amsterdam, Ibiza, Barcelona
Do you think Spanish people aren't also protesting immigration and graffitiing xenophobic slogans everywhere? Lol. Apparently people can only be concerned with one issue at once.
Not even just outside of spain, most were born outside of Europe or the usual suspects wnd and 3rd generation migrants
Illegal migrants?
Can you confirm the Geopold x Gattsu lore that happened in Berlin?
What people seem to forget is that the tourism/hospitality industry pays such shitty wages and has really bad working conditions, specially for what they offer.
These are not high-quality jobs, and creating more incentives to let tourism dominate the local economies even more, isn't going to bring extra wealth to your average citizen, it just brings wealth to those that own Airbnbs, restaurants, shops, etc.
Southern Europeans don't have to accept the "charity" given by Northern Europeans in the form of the money they spend while on vacation. We should strive to make the same amount of money that our European counterparts make, working in far more productive and high-value added industries. The government should have policy that attracts that kind of investment, not the investment of large hotel chains, retailers and private investors looking to buy their 3rd short-term rental.
I'm doing my part...by hating crowded spaces.
Last place I went was this June, drove 10000km round trip all the way to Nordkapp in Norway, in the last 111km to there, where the trees disappear, and at 1 AM, with the sun up, I had the most amazing drive in my life, AND the best part? ZERO cars on the road for the entirety of those 111kms. Now that's my kind of tourist location.
Watching this from my short-term rental in Vilnius, I feel even more part of the problem than usual. At least the city doesn't seem so crowded this time of year.
No way! Stay in Lithuania! The Lithuanian don't mind you. It's just Spain complaining.
Being in Lithuania brings only benefit to the nation
In spain people that say tourist go home are exactly the same that say
refugees welcome...
Los refugiados no nos suben los alquileres, palurdo.
@@Easthor si pero revientan la tasa de delincuencia 😂😂
@@vikonbmw1266 Lo gracioso es que no es así
@@Easthor Refugees don't raise rent? So what are they all homeless? Social housing is expending resources that could be used for regular housing and eventually immigrants are expected to work and rent out/own places all the same. Any population increases demand.
@@Easthorno they don't, they take from the government (your taxes) and give nothing in return. Spain is proud ☪ mashallah
In Germany its common to pay a “Kurtaxe” per day of your vacation, it roughly translates to vacation tax, where Kur historically describes such travel that aids in curing your illness.
The city can use the extra money on public infrastructure they build for tourists.
As someone from Barcelona, I've seen multiple comments saying "Great idea to scare 15% of your gdp away". Let me ask: what was there before that 15% was filled with tourism? There were local businesses and industries forced to close down, and although the total gdp has been increasing I have to ask, for how long? We have too many tourists, so do we just keep infinetly building, raising prices and causing discomfort (noise, trash, overcrowding) for the locals? Not only that, do we have to keep moving our elders away from their life long homes? I can't deny that tourism has brought good things, but enough is enough. Maybe it's not about destroying 15% of the economy, maybe it's about redirecting that to more long term benefitial industries now that the economy has been boosted (because if it really has been a healthy boost it should be able to help other industries, not squash them and make unfair policies that mistreat others and their own emoloyees).
What was in Spain before tourism? Nothing, just a collapsed economy and high unemployment.
@@notmenotme614 You're being naive, just that.
@@notmenotme614 If you simply have no clue about what you're talking and you're gonna fall into stereotypes of "Oh woah Spain is just a stupid country with stupid people before tourism arrived" it's just that you're simply clueless about what you're speaking.
Maybe you should learn a little bit about economics or industrial history before speaking. And no, you're not worth me explaining why you're wrong, you have the whole internet out there to learn why you're simply wrong.
Veo a otra persona de Barcelona dandose cuenta de los problemas. Realmente me parece sorprende como muchas personas simplemente piensan que España depende en un 100% de su turismo masivo y sobre-explotado cuando en realidad es ese turismo la que impide que se invierta dinero en otras industrias que, aunque existan, pues España es la segunda producta de vehículos de europa y no por poco y aunque exportemos mucho material industrial se necesita transformar en el ámbito turístico a uno mucho más sostenible.
Y oye, Barcelona va a prohibir los AirBnB finalmente. Espero que sea un paso correcto.
Gracias por el comentario esta guay ver que no lo soy el único Barcelones por aquí.
@@notmenotme614 If you look at Spain's actual history unemployment rate you'll see that our highest was in 2012-2013, from which we never really recovered (it's trying but jobs are worse quality now, wonder why). It's especially bad for young people, in 2015 and 2020 it peaked at 50% of young people being unemployed and the other 50% having mostly temporary and bad quality jobs. Right now it's at around 28% for young men, and it is highly dependent on the season instead of having stability (in winter it can go up 6%). It's almost like what tourism has done is try to patch things up instead of making actual good jobs. Hm. Maybe if we weren't so focused on tourism and we tried to make better jobs for people... What a thought
I’m from a tourist town, and my town would have gone extinct long ago if it wasn’t for tourism.
Also ngl, the tourists can be way better people than the locals.
Oh yes, drunken British that think that they are a superior race (60% of the tourist that we have in Iberia) are the nicest people in the world.
As an Iowan, we have beautiful corn fields!
but you don't have tour guides, so we the tourists might overlook particularly important/nice/historic corn plant
No thanks 😮
@@lioneldemun6033 Are you sure? We also have the worlds largest concrete bull!
@@themistva Sorry not interested
Tourists aren’t the cause of high rent and the cost of living. It’s greedy corporations that are to blame.
Blame the property industry for charging too much in rent. This could simply be solved by having a price cap.
Blame corporations for not paying their staff a decent wage.
Where I live in the UK certainly is not a tourist hotspot, but we still have unaffordable house prices thanks to greed.
Locals NIMBYing and stopping necessary development are to blame.
The only thing price caps do is make sure no young person ever will get a apartment. Enjoy waiting 15 years for a lease. Meanwhile rich people will just buy a home outright and never rent it out further limiting supply.
@@wediscoit1989 that’s because there’s not enough supply
@@notmenotme614 rent control lowers the incentives to build new houses so that will directly make things worse.
@@hylje but it is also what they build and how much. In Nottingham it’s all student lets…..nothing for residents, London, expensive high end nothing for the average person. Then if they do build some family homes they often don’t factor in the strain on infrastructure and services such as schools and medical care. Or they build massive out of town developments with no public transport meaning tons more cars.