My grandmother used to play 2nd life. I remember sitting with her as she made all sorts of things from outfits, avatars, to houses. She was very talented and made some money off of commission making things for people. I miss her and would give anything to have that time with her again.
I remember my father playing Quake 2 on easy mode - and yet steering the mouse clumsily 😂. It was very wholesome, still. It was nice seeing him so immersed and free of every days sorrows. But from time to time he got stuck and I had to overcome an obstacle or enemy for him. But eventually he beat the game 👍😊 I want him to play RDR2. But I only have it on PS4 and he never used such a controller. I am afraid it might be to hard for him. Let's see..... Could be nice.
the game you went into where the players kept asking who you were is like going into a bar that only like 3 local old men are in and they all look at you like you've just walked into their house despite the sign on the door saying OPEN. i hope both these bars and these video games never have to shut down
@@No_True_Scotsman That's literally what joining a small public server would feel like, it clearly has it small community of friends that you're a stranger to
I hate those UA-camrs who milk the LIMINAL, NOSTALGIC, MELANCHOLIC, EERIE, atmosphere of old or underground video game titles very obviously just for the sake of attracting more attention.
I used to play IMVU back in it's prime. Those "fake" players are actually people who bought vip/their username. If you buy VIP, you get the "Guest_" part taken out of your name along with a bunch of other features. It was a common thing back then (and seemingly still today) for people to be afk a lot. People, including myself, would be on IMVU all day and night, so there were periods where we weren't at our PCs but were still logged into the room. Watching that segment brought back so many memories. If anyone is curious, I can try to answer a few questions about the game.
I was little when I played IMVU with my sisters, so I don't remember much from it. I do remember being confused why my mom got rid of it on our computer lol
@@IExistAndMyNameIsKawaiiAngel As fun as it was, just like any other online game/chat room, it had it's problem with predators/pedos. So I can see why your mom got rid of it. Plus, there was some "adult" items you could get so that could;ve been why too.
@@sockXninja Yeah that's the reason. One specific memory I have of the game was inappropriate animations. Other than that, I really didn't run into pedos or bad content on online games.
@@IExistAndMyNameIsKawaiiAngel You were lucky to not run into any of those weirdos. I've seen some pretty sick stuff in online chat rooms, including IMVU. That was one of the main reasons why I quit.
A lot of games that appear in videos like this are exactly that a group of friends sandboxing with no goal or direction. They have levels and world then free build,I know there was a successful game but I forgot the name it’s the main reason why there’s so many people and games like that
@@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch it's peculiar that they go as far as coding and publishing a game and mantanining online servers if they just want it for their personal use, isnt it
@@Zestieee if noones on them doing anything, the overhead could be absolutely /tiny/, just the list itself, and the world itself is just on a harddrive somewhere completely shut down until someone joins. and actually "publishing" a game is only expensive for advertising reasons, many, many free options, and even steam only charge $100, which you get back completely once your game makes $1000, for a game as old as most of these? could easily be running off some dudes old computer, occasionally changing a part out and doing some code maintenance if someones new setup cant manage to load in or something breaks.
people used to call my avatar child-sized cuz i made it true to my real height using the in-game measurement and not just based on a hunch... now my avatar's a petite 5'10 instead!
I used to use a cat avatar. Not a furry one, an actual cat with an army hat and a cigar smoking problem. Going through SL was like being a world of giants and it was hilarious.
Well...default height settings are around 6' in general, with 7' tending to be to most accessible. Trust me, you think THAT'S big, you REALLY don't want to see some folks avatars. I've seem some that would make Andre the Giant look like a dwarf...in...all departments.
Playing dead games, is like unearthing lost civilizations, obscured and untouched for a long time. like visiting a ghost town that's been abandoned for god knows how long, it's so fascinating.
It’s even weirder if you played or had history with the game, it’s like going back to your childhood home with everything in the same place it was, but no signs of life remaining there, just the memories of that place you have saved in your head
Agreed. Like most of us here I found this channel through the part 1 of this video and in my 11 years of watching youtube I've never subbed to a channel so fast.
What I really find interesting is the fact, that someone built those places. He sat there with the 3D program and placed the trees, formed the caves, and arranged the chairs and tables. But it was so long ago, hard to find who built it; not many people "witnessed" these structures, with deep sadness, you can say people did this and put a lot of work into it, but only a few were able to appreciate this work.
The worlds I spent hundreds of hours making, decorating and perfecting in Terraria that only I have ever seen, feel less melancholy than these to me. I guess because these online worlds were meant to be shared and experienced by others, while my Terraria builds were just for my own amusement. They were for me, these are for other people, and are going unused.
9:19 Wow, I can't believe it, 3DEE is in here! 3DEE/3DWorlds used to be an offshoot of Active Worlds that ran on its own server with a couple of worlds. I think the creator paid for a license for an old version of the AW software to run it. It's partially a recreation of the Dam Square in Amsterdam, and you're correct that it's Dutch. It ran from about 2000 to... I have no idea when. What you're visiting here is a backup of the main world, and the main area has barely changed since my first visit. Those little shops have always been there, and have always been broken and unused, lol. I was active on there from 2001 to about 2008, as a young teenager. It had this small but great community of about 50 people from all ages between 10 and 60, and we used to have IRL meetups once or twice a year. It was awesome. A young, hormone-laden teenage Bert dated with a bunch of the girls on there. As a socially awkward teen who didn't really fit in at school, it was the perfect place to escape to when I came home. The world itself was really only secondary to the community experience, since a lot of us logged on and chatted on there on a daily basis. Nonetheless there are a lot of things in there that you missed: a pyramid-shaped night club behind the Palace On The dam, where we could listen to music (one of the members ran a streaming radio show every week, Radio 3DEE) and dance, and we even had a couple of New Year's parties in there. There was a swimming pool that way as well. In another direction there's a cinema that played some movie trailers. Remember, this was before UA-cam, so it was very impressive in those days. Every easter we had an easter egg hunt where they were hidden all around the Dam square. There were also a bunch of other worlds, mostly from members who wanted to experiment with building in their own world. The main world didn't have any building; I don't think flying was even enabled for non-moderator members. We also had a bunch of themed worlds throughout the years, mostly for Christmas. I'm still in a Facebook group with most of the regulars from 3DEE from back in those days, but we barely talk anymore. Everyone grew up, moved on, started living lives of their own. Still, it's nice to be reminded of this place.
Man, this is so interesting. It's cool to hear abt what these places were like in their prime. Do you recognize OptimumPx? I wonder what they do on the server these days, maybe there is still a small community they interact with
If you continue this, I'd love to see more interaction with the few people you do find on these games. You really get to wonder who they are and what they're doing on a literally dead game
Ditto. And as long as you're respectful, most people who play these sorts of games are usually thrilled to explain it and their interest. You can meet some real characters in these games. It's fun!
@@mercster Why would he be joking? I am sure these musicians are well known in some circles, but not really in all circles. Personally, I have only heard of the Police, and not Sting.
Random fact about Second Life, I remember it being sponsored by Rio Salado College, a college my dad has worked at for around 20 to 30 years now. I don't remember much, but I remember my dad working on cpr training and my mom was a dj in the game, making actual money from it.
You including IMVU into this made me start dying of laughter. I remember all the drama that revolved around that game. One of my exes I would constantly catch him on there chatting up underage girls, about 1k REAL money spent in the game so he could spoil people with virtual clothes and gifts. It was a hot mess, those were real people, but the likelihood of them being actually in Discord or a private DM chatting it up and ignoring you is a lot higher than you think LMAO
yeap exactly that sounds like the imvu i remember. people just constantly in the private messages/whispers or ignoring you if you had "guest_" infront of your name. god i dont miss that cesspit
Naw, fr. I met my first love on there and uh... lot had happened. Still, I miss IMVU classic. Especially, Pulse. People would talk mad sh*t there and it's just funny now that I'm in my 20s, how we took those things pretty seriously. All that drama for NOTHIN'! I don't understand how it'd be considered dead though. The same peeps I know come on here and there. But I guess eventually, we'll get older and look back with a new perspective. The people traumatized me though! So many wicked memories.
This is a really niche part of collective internet culture I'd love to see more people explore but it's hard to imagine anyone else's take on it being quite as nailed on enjoyable as these. Both of your videos are a great balance of genuinely very funny and strangely touching, big appreciation
Vinny Vinesauce did some great tours around Worlds and Active Worlds, but his take was more long-winded and trippy since it's a stream of just taking in the environments. He even got to talk to some veterans of those games, really interesting. Dude's also very chill, would recommend
As someone who has spent the last 5 years playing it, yeah. It was really well made at one point, and had amazing potential, I don't think I've ever seen a game with more organically integrated mechanics, it was also pretty active, and had an *extremely* dedicated playerbase that was way larger than it was now, people, including me, saw huge potential and just latched onto the game, we knew we had something special. The simple mission system and detailed, open map where you'd trade cash for a disc allowed endless possibilities for what could happen, carefully-planned double crosses, hostage situtations, abushing already-dealing teams, and clean deals, anything could happen, think of one of those "player generated" story games like DF or Nethack but in 3D. And then world mode came out, it turned the game into a dull-RDM casual fest on a barely-detailed map made of cubes where you'd get gunned down at every possible instant, whether it be trying to even get a job or walking down the street. Later updates completely removed the previous mission system which held the experience up, dumbed down the graphics, and completely broke physics, and now the game is pretty much abandoned. Round mode is still there, but a lot of mechanical changes have just made shooting people and getting the $$$ easy as pie, so there's barely any activity. TLDR: Good video on how the game died. ua-cam.com/video/UY28vCBOELA/v-deo.html&t
Being a player of Second Life since 2006, it's always fun to see a new person's perspective of my weird ass game. You didn't do anything wrong, in fact you brought to light again how hard it is to get into it for anyone who's curious and doesn't have any friends to teach them the ropes. There's a ton of beautifully made places with the ability to use mesh, shaders, and normals, but because the game still has all the old stuff as well available to players, if they don't know what they're doing, they'll just end up mismatching literal decades of content, or paying Lindens (LBux) for stuff that doesn't look good, yet costs the same as something 10000x higher quality. It's a money hungry game to make it work right, but you end up getting amazing places like the Final Fantasy 7 Roleplay sim, which looks to the T from all three versions of the game. And it's not weird to enter a sim filled to the absolute brim with people, hundred strong though, constantly and consistently. It's just way too easy to just stumble across nothing but empty stores and strip clubs and see nothing worthwhile.
@@cantflyforshit Since pretty much everything in the game is usermade it's often down to creators being too fancy with their textures. A lot of assets use textures that are WAY too high-resolution for what they need to be (there's infamous examples of jewelry like rings that use several 2048x2048 textures... now imagine someone has one on each finger, and your PC has to download and render all of that in realtime!). You basically need to play with a heavily lowered render distance, and limit how many other avatars appear on screen. There are also third party viewers that optimize the game in various ways, I think the default second life viewer is better now but it's still not great especially by default
@Cameron Millspaugh it's a bit misrepresented here IMO. It has by far the most advanced avatar system in the internet virtual world games. You can make very advanced looking avatars but you need to know what you're doing and where to go and probably he also used an outdated viewer bc places in sl can look very good. And altho it looks like it's empty in this video, there's a pretty big user base and I'm surprised that he managed to meet nobody. Sl has very crowded places.
but it was "this is how my family cracks jokes" type of stuff and it was a little cringe, like... have you ever left your home city or turned off the sopranos reruns?
To be fair, the one with the most licensed content and advertisements, "Second Life", was genuinely pretty large at its peak. The game had over a million users who were, collectively, spending tens of millions of dollars a year. You can definitely tell that time period has come and gone, with a lot of areas that look frozen in the pop culture of the late 2000s, but the idea actually makes some sense. It tapped into a large niche of players who enjoyed the social aspects of MMORPGs, but found the actual gameplay annoying. The rest of the games either have significantly less licensed content, seem like they might have paid for the content to advertise the game (like BowieWorld), or seem highly likely to be using the IP without any actual licensing.
@@NyanCatHerder nah Second Life is still highly active and unlikely to fade out anytime soon because it has established itself with a large user base, in-game economy, and comprehensive features. Other games like IMVU and VRChat dominate the virtual world space for similar reasons, making it difficult for newer games to gain traction. Many older virtual world games died off as these platforms offered more advanced features, better social interaction, and customization. Essentially, established platforms fulfill users’ needs, leaving little reason to explore niche or newer games in the same genre.
Oh man, IMVU. What a throwback. I used to play that a whole lot when I was like 12. I made some good friends there that I still speak with to this day.
I thought IMVU sounded familiar. Never played it myself but I remember seeing a lots of ads for it when I was younger, around 2005 maybe. I think some girls on my class played it. Creating different avatars and styles etc and showing them off to each other. I had heard of second life too, rest of these games I've never even heard before.
@@JackTheNoobersame here, sounded familiar but i’d never heard of second life until recently. I was 10 in 2005 and only ever played PS2, always thought IMVU was a girls game lmfao
Sadly none of the players he saw in the rooms were fake. IMVU tended to attract socially awkward people and now they're basically the only ones left on the platform. People that are so bad at socializing they can't even talk to someone through a keyboard unless they know them. These days they're AFK/ignoring you and just using it to ERP with their virtual SO. You still can find some rooms where people talk though, so it's not really a dead game even though it seems like the majority of the players online are bots. Wouldn't recommend it in the slightest.
Meridian 59 was the bomb back in the days, it felt so unreal walking around in a "big" world where other players from around the world where walking around at the same time.
Yeah I remember when it first came out in the dark ages it was like $10 an hour or some shit lol. It was always a game I wanted to play but didn't have a credit card at 12.
Sub Rosa was so good game. Ill never forget how I met with other businessman and he said to us. "It appears you want this disc. You can have it if you..." In that moment he and his friends were hit by high speed car and start flying away. One of us run pick up disc we looked at him and he said "What? Hes dead. He won't need it in heaven. Were rich, now get to car an lets get out of it before someone hit us" When he started to run towards us thru road he was hit by car and send flying. This game is pure comedy it's like "naked weapon"
Absolutely crazy amount of effort, I can tell the people involved really cared about this. I always love seeing really weird but clearly very sincere ways that people express themselves. That being said, who the tf even has to think about a bar of metal being an ingot?
As someone who has played Second Life for about 15 years and also have made quite a bit of money out of the game too (By selling land on sims like you spoke about.) it's honestly kind of a spectacle for US who play second life as well. My group of friends and myself will randomly go to sims like that just to find some wild things, from completely intact and working water parks and a whole ass recreation of central park. A lot of this stuff can even come and go so I'm not even sure what is still around, There ARE some places you can go to Redlyne though like London and the Welcome Islands, there are some other places as well but I forget them.
Seeing the old music news was so interesting. Its literally a time capsule or like time just suddenly stopped one day and everyone vanished in a spooky way.. its so cool
I know you probably won't read this. But you make some really great content, I remember back in May before I left for the Navy's bootcamp, Recruit Training Command, I had binged every one of your videos until three in the morning and didn't regret it. Now that I'm out, I finally have time to watch this channel again! Thanks for the wonderful content!
20:00 I am a huge wrestling fan, so I can help. That poster was The Rock vs Stone Cold Steve Austin from Wrestlemania X7(17). This was their second match in their 3 matches at Wrestlemania. (The first being at Wrestlemania 15 and the last on wrestlemania 19. It took place on April 1, 2001 and it regarded as not only the best Wrestlemania of all time, but possibly the best Wrestling Pay-Per-View of all time. The match is infamous for Stone Cold turning Heel (or bad guy to non-wrestling fans) and siding with is long time rival Vince (Mr.) McMahon. There were also other posters, the one I saw was King of the Ring 2001. That PPV had Shane McMahon getting thrown through real glass by Kurt Angle. So this map was either made or last updated in 2001.
The map "Grid" was a recreation of the set from Tron: Legacy when he first gets teleported into the Grid and is sitting at the Grid version of his dads computer desk. Great movie that is welllll worth a watch
That track at 50:07 - amazing piece of music and love that you noticed it !! The music was composed by Gene Rosenberg who did the score to Furcadia as well!
I'm obsessed with this series. I just know that for some of these games, these videos will be the most clear footage that'll ever get saved of them. And I'm impressed with how well you manage to cover these empty worlds while keeping the videos entertaining.
Really appreciate the Trigun title card music. Very nice touch that both goes well with the vid and makes me feel all tingly inside from the fact that I've realized it.
Something i remember from imvu is that if someone doesnt have guest next to their name it means they have the subscription, which gives them a "whisper" option. It basically just means they can dm each other in the room. I just noticed that all the players you thought were fake didnt have "guest" in their name so they were probably just talking to each other that way
And most modern games are hosted by big companies now too so when they die they will definitely just shut down and not by left for this kind of digital archaeology which is kinda sad
It's so hard for me to watch you navigating SecondLife and going to some of the forgotten sims. But-- I'm also glad that it was visited. There's a bunch of places that are much much better, but there's a lot of those W E I R D places like the ones you bumped into. I kinda wish I might have bumped into you while you were checking Second Life out to show you around to the higher quality sims. x3 Either way! Great content, and lovely to see all the old games.
The guy saying the answer to which bar was an ingot was a "bump in the road" is either some damn good acting, or the clip actually comes from all the way back when crafting in games wasn't a thing yet 😂
14:58 This is Sting. He was in a band called "The Police" that formed in the late 70s and disbanded in the early 80s. Most people would put them into the "New Wave" genre but they had a lot of inspirations from punk music and reggae. They are really popular so you've probably heard some of their hits (Every Breath You Take, Message In A Bottle, Roxanne, Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic, and a lot of other songs.) Think my favorite song of theirs is "Be My Girl - Sally" which is kind of a deep cut from their first album "Outlandos d'Amour". It's about an inflatable sex doll, cool song! Also cool video I love this kind of stuff.
@@macintalkshow he's older than me and i recognized sting instantly lol. i guess thinking more about it though, none of my friends would recognize him just by his face.
around an hour ago i commented on the first video in this series mentioning There, completely unaware that you actually found and explored it in the next video. the entire There section of this video was so nostalgic to me, i remember when i was a kid the first day i started playing the game, i teleported to tyr tower gate (the exact same one you went to in this video) and fell into the abyss while walking across the bridge. i spent hours trying to get out, completely forgetting that i could teleport out via the map seeing the game so empty and devoid of all the structures players had placed in the main beach area and the rest of the world like Vista Point and Twin Lakes makes me really sad. i'm glad the game is still around, but the things that made it special and fun to explore and mess around in are completely gone
I absolutely loved Sub Rosa back when mission mode was still playable and seeing it randomly pop up after a bunch of 90s/early 2000s virtual chat rooms was painful
It’s a “you had to be there” type game. Open world was kinda cringe but round mode was peak, and some dude would host mini games on weekends sometimes with a zombie mode around 2019 I think.
Seeing that Who Wants to be a Millionaire bit put a smile on my face. I used to be obsessed with that show when I was younger, and I would have TOTALLY been on board with all that stuff had I been aware of it at the time.
Worlds actually wasn’t “dead long before the server went offline”! I played it sometime last year, and it was online back then; it had a pretty substantial user base, they were all friendly and chatty. It seemed their community was actually pretty active and did events together and everything. I have no idea what happened between now and then, because it really wasn’t that long ago that I checked it out. I’m almost tempted to think there may have been another download out there somewhere that is the actual active one. Anyway, it was pretty cool, there was an avatar customizing place where I gave myself the body of a woman in a black dress and the head of a Canadian goose. It was quite the look
Ghost towns are always fascinating not just for their frozen in time aesthetic, but for the often interesting story everyone up and left. Video game ghost towns like these are no exception.
i absolutely love this channel. i discovered it from the first "Exploring Dead Games" video and I've just got done watching the Dark Games Iceberg series. i love the humor and chill vibes, so i subscribed and cannot wait for more videos :)
39:56 I particularly love how they have an endless loop playing on the tv of Bakugo, a character who has absolutely fuck all to do with being a Gamer™ instead of like... Kirito or something
Even though i have 0 nostalgia for any virtual world since i didn't play any, the idea of exploring these abandoned places is such a cool niche i didn't know i needed.
At 20:43 appears what seems to be the BT logo. So BT doesn’t stand for Big Time, it stands for British Telecom, one of the telecommunications companies in the UK. Edit: research reveals that BT Openworld was a former brand name for BT’s ISP division. It’s unclear when they stopped using the name but it seems to place that map around the early 00s. Why such a random game was presumably endorsed by BT I have no idea.
BT Openworld was the first name for British Telecom nationwide broadband service (now called BT Openreach). Many Internet Cafes in the early-2000s in England offered Openworld connections for 15p per minute on a pay-as-you use basis, or 90 minutes for £5.99. That's BT's logo in the game too.
Second Life seems to be the same as it was when I played it about 10 years ago - full of places to spend real money after the game went popular and a handful of people made a lot of money fast. That and watching everything load in so slowly you could probably make a game of guessing which textures would load next.
I’m screaming. Been watching part 1 for the last few days and I check the channel today and we have a PART 2 NOW! This channel is such a hidden gem I’m obsessed
The unfinished GRID map in Virtual World appears to be the beginnings of a Tron map. That unfinished room you showed in the clip appeared to be a recreation of the room where Flynn is accidentally digitized into the Grid in the basement of the arcade.
Okay, as a AW, Second Life Vet and virtual world explorer, I have this to remark on the video: 1. Virtual Paradise was created, IIRC, by a collective of ActiveWorlds users, mainly the younger audience that tended to hang around AWTeen back in the day. The main dev was from the Netherlands if I recall right - It was made mainly because they were dissatisfied with the fact that AW has been on life support with no attempts by Rick Noll or anyone at AWI to do anything to make the platform competitive again (Not that you really could with a almost 30 year old engine without destroying a lot of historical works in AW). I was on VP for a time, but eventually moved on to continue my time in Second Life. The AW Userbase is a three-ring fuckfuck circus of partially deceased former citizens (I've been witness to quite a few in-world funerals and the sort, caused by the fact AW tended to attract older users), Users from after it got mainstream attention from Vinesauce and the sort, and people like me who come in ranging from once in a blue moon to semi-regularly. 2. Second Life isn't 'continually declining'. Our userbase (I speak our, because I'm one of the more prominent members of the community in SL) is still quite active, and we have more or less stabilized at around 30-40k average concurrency, with around 100k~ or so active users. There is a small community of SL Residents on twitter and other social media that are active and discuss matters in world. The prime reason SL gets the 'dead' moniker, and it's not unjustified in its' entireity, is because of the way SL is set up as one massive contiguous world, rather than seperate instanced worlds like VRChat or seperate individual servers like Activeworlds and the sort. There's lots of activity on SL, it just requires time to search and explore to find a place to go, which isn't really explained well to new users - something Linden Lab has been trying to fix. 3. IMVU is.. well, if people think SL is bad, IMVU is worse. It's called the sitting simulator for good reason and a lot of IMVU 'refugees' have moved to Second Life. The platform suffers from dated features, lack of updates or care from the developers, among others. Hell, their 'music' feature? Features songs from no later than fucking early 2010 if I recall. IMVU's only redeeming feature is that it has a mobile app, but good luck keeping people interested when your platform turns into discount dress-up that will get uninstalled in a month. 4. Worlds.com is infamous in the metaverse (Before people ask, this is considered a coloquiallism for all virtual worlds and the sort, and not related to just Meta's Horizon Worlds) for being host to patent trolling by the owner. Nexpo's Worlds.com cult video goes into detail as to why Worlds.com is still around, and into the patent trolling. Essentially, Worlds.com sued ActiveWorlds Inc, Linden Research (Second Life), IMVU, and countless other companies for infringing on their patent, which is vital to creating virtual worlds. Effectively, worlds.com shafted a lot of virtual world platforms because of greed, forcing these other companies to deal with both legal messes and paying out patent royalties. The patent was due to expire a year or so ago, I don't know if Worlds tried to renew it or anything.
I'd like to hear the perspective of someone involved in all this, what's the target audience for projects like this in the current year? I thought it was just streamers or yuppies looking to trade "virtual assets", but apparently there's a whole community, so there must be a wide variety of targets the project caters to.
Used to play There all the time as a child, remember it being pretty good. Game just randomly pops into my head every few years for no reason. Also sad to see Sub Rosa on the list, its an amazing game deserved way more success than it got
Because of how sad it is (to me at least), I find it weirdly difficult to think about how many friendships were formed in some of these old worlds. So many people have seen their friendships slowly fade away, or said their last goodbyes to their 90s online friends. How many people are thinking about these old online friends today? Wondering how they're doing? It makes me feel sentimental and is almost enough to make me cry... No time for crying now though, because despite how sad it is, these people are probably doing okay these days! So that's nice to think about at least. Hope that made sense... also OldPete65 is a Superchad Supreme. 😗
@@sirlimen333 You can form deep connections without ever physically meeting, not to mention that for some people there might be huge barriers preventing them from being able to meet online friends in person like disability or the cost of travel if they live far away
Hey Redlyne! I found your channel yesterday and fell in love with your Exploring Dead Games video. You can just imagine my reaction when I saw this video come up on my page. Thanks for the work you do!
Ah someone’s probably already said it but “The Grid” is what the world inside the “Tron” machine is called. The only half completed room there looks VERY similar to the room from Tron:Legacy that teleports people in and out of the Grid.
Came here to say this. Yes: It looks like someone attempted to re-create The Grid from Tron: Legacy - the structure that does exist is indeed a recreation of Kevin Flynn's hidden arcade office. And... That's all the further they got.
These videos are fascinating, the fact that these games are still available is astounding, makes me wonder who is genuinely playing them and their reasonings for it. Side note - your music choices are perfect, always love to hear some Dead Rising 2 ambience.
I like when you encounter internet ghosts, random players that sometimes say something Its lik exploring an abandoned building and seeing things left behind that are now probably just somones distant memory
THANK YOU FOR MORE CONTENT redlyne my friend im telling you YOU are the next big thing. great voice, hilarious editing, pace yourself baby bc the wait is worth it for this kinda thing! Congrats on the success man you earned it
It's just calming watching Red going through these games, and its a combination of his narration and good humour. The feel I get when he talks is like a comical Joe Pera, if that makes sense. Great video, man.
At 20:42 that company 'BT' is actually British Telecom. They're still a large company in the UK providing internet etc. Loved the video, just discovered your channel after the dead minecraft severs. It didn't leave me feeling sad (which surprised me, as the idea of nostalgic things living on in a dead form easily could), but neither was it happy. It just seemed peaceful in some way, Like those worlds were in retirement.
Worlds making a comeback as some weird nft metaverse vr hellscape in 20 years sounds like a nightmare yet is likely to happen which is the scariest thing.
I used to play There from 2007-2009 almost every day, it used to be PACKED with people at all hours! It used to be so lively, and there were always things to explore and people to talk to. I remember there was a huge skatepark or skating ramp that I would always play around at, and I remember sitting at the campfire one of the first times I played while I figured out the limitations of the swear filter :) I really miss this game, and maybe it's the hazy memory from when I was a young child who barely knew what the internet was, but I have a lot of fond memories of There.
So weird that you would say that, that’s exactly what intrigues me the most. I wonder what it would be like to have gone to one of the online events like the concerts and the type of people that would be there doing the same. I wonder if they still remember even playing 🤔
So weird that you would say that, that’s exactly what intrigues me the most. I wonder what it would be like to have gone to one of the online events like the concerts and the type of people that would be there doing the same. I wonder if they still remember even playing 🤔
Yeah Secondlife is one of those newb-unfriendly simulators that require some setup and knowledge before it gets good. With 90% of the map being practically dead, getting to the populated, new and current worlds is quite hard. I can also put together a list of interesting spots some time, the game is still doing great if you don't look at the dust! That aside, something friends and I like to do is get a car and drive across a main road on one of the bigger islands. It's fun to see all the old abandoned places people created, Chernobyl vibes!
not wrong, their is alot of dead space. in SL its all out in the open. its not like VRchat where if no one is their hosting the world comes down. everything is always up and connected (for the most part connected)
3:49 this is actually a very faithful recreation of Flynn's basement from the movie TRON Legacy, and the name "Grid" is a reference to the in-universe virtual reality of the same name
I knew it sounded familiar. At 39:44 in the "Club Jams" room it's literally playing the track from Killer 7 titled 'Rave On'! (A absolute banger that played in game when literally going up a set of stairs every so often) This caught me completely off guard as an addict for that weird old game. This video brought me joy, in the outro you mentioned video production and regardless of how long videos take I look forward to seeing whatever content you make in the future!
![Exploring the Abandoned Internet [Vol 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fzctuuVYb5Y/mqdefault.jpg)
My grandmother used to play 2nd life. I remember sitting with her as she made all sorts of things from outfits, avatars, to houses.
She was very talented and made some money off of commission making things for people.
I miss her and would give anything to have that time with her again.
I once saw a furry selling their butt in second life.
That's pretty cool, I play Roblox for the fashion aspects alone
ratio bozo
@@survived4679 jesus christ man why do you have to be like that on someone who misses their dead grandma?
I remember my father playing Quake 2 on easy mode - and yet steering the mouse clumsily 😂.
It was very wholesome, still. It was nice seeing him so immersed and free of every days sorrows. But from time to time he got stuck and I had to overcome an obstacle or enemy for him. But eventually he beat the game 👍😊
I want him to play RDR2. But I only have it on PS4 and he never used such a controller. I am afraid it might be to hard for him. Let's see..... Could be nice.
You know that the game was never big when you can set your name as just any random name without numbers or underscores.
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Yes lonerly6969
Okay, unknown-bf1sy
haha me fig
@@valletas hi jack frost
"I hate homework and bein grounded" immediately followed by "im 30" was unexpected comedy
I mean if ya think about it, community service and house arrest are basically homework and bein grounded at 30
PhD candidates having to live with their parents
That was hilarious. Almost spit out my drink.
@@expressnumber Sadly more common than usual
Unexpected comedy?? I think comedy is already inherently unexpected.
the game you went into where the players kept asking who you were is like going into a bar that only like 3 local old men are in and they all look at you like you've just walked into their house despite the sign on the door saying OPEN. i hope both these bars and these video games never have to shut down
Beautiful really
almost brought a tear to the eye it'd
didint cause I'm. ot a bitch but almost
That has happened to me on Discord a few times
@@No_True_Scotsman That's literally what joining a small public server would feel like, it clearly has it small community of friends that you're a stranger to
I kinda wish hed ask that guy more questions. The guy seemed to know more about the game
It’s so refreshing to see someone cover WORLDS without shitting their pants and blowing their load about how SCARY and LIMINAL and EERIE the game is.
As a Worlds regular I support this comment with MY HEART AND SOUL. Thank you!
Yeah not a lot of people seem to enjoy the early-net look sadly, lol.
Worlds is fuckin amazing. I love the early web look, it's so fuckin crusty for what it is. I adore that
@@exist4046it's honestly shockingly good looking for it's time period.
I hate those UA-camrs who milk the LIMINAL, NOSTALGIC, MELANCHOLIC, EERIE, atmosphere of old or underground video game titles very obviously just for the sake of attracting more attention.
I used to play IMVU back in it's prime. Those "fake" players are actually people who bought vip/their username. If you buy VIP, you get the "Guest_" part taken out of your name along with a bunch of other features. It was a common thing back then (and seemingly still today) for people to be afk a lot. People, including myself, would be on IMVU all day and night, so there were periods where we weren't at our PCs but were still logged into the room. Watching that segment brought back so many memories. If anyone is curious, I can try to answer a few questions about the game.
I was little when I played IMVU with my sisters, so I don't remember much from it. I do remember being confused why my mom got rid of it on our computer lol
@@IExistAndMyNameIsKawaiiAngel As fun as it was, just like any other online game/chat room, it had it's problem with predators/pedos. So I can see why your mom got rid of it. Plus, there was some "adult" items you could get so that could;ve been why too.
@@sockXninja Yeah that's the reason. One specific memory I have of the game was inappropriate animations. Other than that, I really didn't run into pedos or bad content on online games.
@@IExistAndMyNameIsKawaiiAngel You were lucky to not run into any of those weirdos. I've seen some pretty sick stuff in online chat rooms, including IMVU. That was one of the main reasons why I quit.
@@sockXninja Im sorry that happened to you! I hope you are doing fine now
'Psychochild' in Meridian 59 was one of the developers, who passed away in 2021. What you found at 49:15 was a memorial dedicated to him.
That’s sad, but also kinda wholesome that they honored him.
Honestly, kinda nice they went back in just to add a tribute. That's some real love between devs, coworkers, and friends if that's how it happened.
hwat game he do
did you used to play meridian?
How do you know ? That’s a nice piece of information
Virtual Paradise legit seems like a game that a group of friends made for their own fun only and nobody else's
A lot of games that appear in videos like this are exactly that a group of friends sandboxing with no goal or direction. They have levels and world then free build,I know there was a successful game but I forgot the name it’s the main reason why there’s so many people and games like that
@@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch it's peculiar that they go as far as coding and publishing a game and mantanining online servers if they just want it for their personal use, isnt it
@@Zestieee not really, me and my old friend had a full ios rpg in the store replicating chaos fighter gameplay just as a fun project
@@Papucho257 i just assumed it requires a lot of money to mantain servers and publish games, maybe it's not the case
@@Zestieee if noones on them doing anything, the overhead could be absolutely /tiny/, just the list itself, and the world itself is just on a harddrive somewhere completely shut down until someone joins. and actually "publishing" a game is only expensive for advertising reasons, many, many free options, and even steam only charge $100, which you get back completely once your game makes $1000, for a game as old as most of these? could easily be running off some dudes old computer, occasionally changing a part out and doing some code maintenance if someones new setup cant manage to load in or something breaks.
I love how in second life everything is huge, because all of the people make their avatars 7 1/2 feet tall
people used to call my avatar child-sized cuz i made it true to my real height using the in-game measurement and not just based on a hunch... now my avatar's a petite 5'10 instead!
I used to use a cat avatar. Not a furry one, an actual cat with an army hat and a cigar smoking problem.
Going through SL was like being a world of giants and it was hilarious.
Nah, that's just the default height. Don't get why they haven't tweaked the height system.
Well...default height settings are around 6' in general, with 7' tending to be to most accessible. Trust me, you think THAT'S big, you REALLY don't want to see some folks avatars. I've seem some that would make Andre the Giant look like a dwarf...in...all departments.
Yup, furries tend to be a bit smaller than humans in my experience
Playing dead games, is like unearthing lost civilizations, obscured and untouched for a long time. like visiting a ghost town that's been abandoned for god knows how long, it's so fascinating.
In short it's like visiting Zuckerberg's Metaverse. Well, except for the fascinating part maybe.
@@clray123 indeed
It’s even weirder if you played or had history with the game, it’s like going back to your childhood home with everything in the same place it was, but no signs of life remaining there, just the memories of that place you have saved in your head
Same vibe as visiting sn abandoned school or something. Imagining all tha stuff that may have happened there
LONG TIME?! Play new world all the time
this is such a hidden gem of a channel!
Truly is
Agreed. Like most of us here I found this channel through the part 1 of this video and in my 11 years of watching youtube I've never subbed to a channel so fast.
@@-sanju- same, true.
Agreed, great long form content.
A Gemerald?
What I really find interesting is the fact, that someone built those places. He sat there with the 3D program and placed the trees, formed the caves, and arranged the chairs and tables. But it was so long ago, hard to find who built it; not many people "witnessed" these structures, with deep sadness, you can say people did this and put a lot of work into it, but only a few were able to appreciate this work.
The worlds I spent hundreds of hours making, decorating and perfecting in Terraria that only I have ever seen, feel less melancholy than these to me.
I guess because these online worlds were meant to be shared and experienced by others, while my Terraria builds were just for my own amusement. They were for me, these are for other people, and are going unused.
@planescaped and on top of that perpetually open. Just waiting for a single soul
Yeah this is very challenging for me to process and not feel sad for
9:19 Wow, I can't believe it, 3DEE is in here!
3DEE/3DWorlds used to be an offshoot of Active Worlds that ran on its own server with a couple of worlds. I think the creator paid for a license for an old version of the AW software to run it.
It's partially a recreation of the Dam Square in Amsterdam, and you're correct that it's Dutch. It ran from about 2000 to... I have no idea when. What you're visiting here is a backup of the main world, and the main area has barely changed since my first visit. Those little shops have always been there, and have always been broken and unused, lol.
I was active on there from 2001 to about 2008, as a young teenager. It had this small but great community of about 50 people from all ages between 10 and 60, and we used to have IRL meetups once or twice a year. It was awesome. A young, hormone-laden teenage Bert dated with a bunch of the girls on there. As a socially awkward teen who didn't really fit in at school, it was the perfect place to escape to when I came home.
The world itself was really only secondary to the community experience, since a lot of us logged on and chatted on there on a daily basis. Nonetheless there are a lot of things in there that you missed: a pyramid-shaped night club behind the Palace On The dam, where we could listen to music (one of the members ran a streaming radio show every week, Radio 3DEE) and dance, and we even had a couple of New Year's parties in there. There was a swimming pool that way as well. In another direction there's a cinema that played some movie trailers. Remember, this was before UA-cam, so it was very impressive in those days.
Every easter we had an easter egg hunt where they were hidden all around the Dam square. There were also a bunch of other worlds, mostly from members who wanted to experiment with building in their own world. The main world didn't have any building; I don't think flying was even enabled for non-moderator members. We also had a bunch of themed worlds throughout the years, mostly for Christmas.
I'm still in a Facebook group with most of the regulars from 3DEE from back in those days, but we barely talk anymore. Everyone grew up, moved on, started living lives of their own. Still, it's nice to be reminded of this place.
This was really interesting, thanks!
Hmm. Cool
So cool :') thank you for sharing
very nice
Man, this is so interesting. It's cool to hear abt what these places were like in their prime. Do you recognize OptimumPx? I wonder what they do on the server these days, maybe there is still a small community they interact with
If you continue this, I'd love to see more interaction with the few people you do find on these games. You really get to wonder who they are and what they're doing on a literally dead game
Ditto. And as long as you're respectful, most people who play these sorts of games are usually thrilled to explain it and their interest. You can meet some real characters in these games. It's fun!
On one hand, it'd be cool to have some insight, on the other, who has the patience to sift through these places.
@@TheSultan1470 surely many, i mean you left this comment under an hour of exactly that lol
@@SgtFunBun Hmm
Go back to entrance
The man in the picture, AKA "2000's relevant musician," is indeed a 2000's relevant nusician, Sting, his solo act, after leaving The Police.
I was hoping he was joking.
I thought it was billy idol but is close enough
@@mercster Why would he be joking? I am sure these musicians are well known in some circles, but not really in all circles. Personally, I have only heard of the Police, and not Sting.
@@olivercharles2930 Stay in school, don't do drugs. 👍
@@mercster funny coming from some guy that looks like a hippie in rehab.
Random fact about Second Life, I remember it being sponsored by Rio Salado College, a college my dad has worked at for around 20 to 30 years now. I don't remember much, but I remember my dad working on cpr training and my mom was a dj in the game, making actual money from it.
Cool
🤝 my mom also made money selling textures for avatars in the game
The fact that the Googie Room made a return made my heart grow three sizes
i need more googie content
@@the_Googieholy shit it’s googie
@@the_Googie googie!!!!!
You including IMVU into this made me start dying of laughter. I remember all the drama that revolved around that game. One of my exes I would constantly catch him on there chatting up underage girls, about 1k REAL money spent in the game so he could spoil people with virtual clothes and gifts. It was a hot mess, those were real people, but the likelihood of them being actually in Discord or a private DM chatting it up and ignoring you is a lot higher than you think LMAO
yeap exactly that sounds like the imvu i remember. people just constantly in the private messages/whispers or ignoring you if you had "guest_" infront of your name. god i dont miss that cesspit
This is such a common story it's insane 😭😭😭 imvu was just grimy and full of that shit
Naw, fr. I met my first love on there and uh... lot had happened. Still, I miss IMVU classic. Especially, Pulse. People would talk mad sh*t there and it's just funny now that I'm in my 20s, how we took those things pretty seriously. All that drama for NOTHIN'! I don't understand how it'd be considered dead though. The same peeps I know come on here and there. But I guess eventually, we'll get older and look back with a new perspective. The people traumatized me though! So many wicked memories.
and now you try to log on and it's advertising nfts. can't wait for nfts to be the thing digital archaeologists find online in future
Damn…I just crashed weddings and punched people 😂
This is a really niche part of collective internet culture I'd love to see more people explore but it's hard to imagine anyone else's take on it being quite as nailed on enjoyable as these. Both of your videos are a great balance of genuinely very funny and strangely touching, big appreciation
Vinny Vinesauce did some great tours around Worlds and Active Worlds, but his take was more long-winded and trippy since it's a stream of just taking in the environments. He even got to talk to some veterans of those games, really interesting. Dude's also very chill, would recommend
@@BierBart12 appreciate that, I'll take a look 🙏
Sub Rosa is such a shame, looks like it could have been a really fun little time.
it was :(
As someone who has spent the last 5 years playing it, yeah.
It was really well made at one point, and had amazing potential, I don't think I've ever seen a game with more organically integrated mechanics, it was also pretty active, and had an *extremely* dedicated playerbase that was way larger than it was now, people, including me, saw huge potential and just latched onto the game, we knew we had something special. The simple mission system and detailed, open map where you'd trade cash for a disc allowed endless possibilities for what could happen, carefully-planned double crosses, hostage situtations, abushing already-dealing teams, and clean deals, anything could happen, think of one of those "player generated" story games like DF or Nethack but in 3D.
And then world mode came out, it turned the game into a dull-RDM casual fest on a barely-detailed map made of cubes where you'd get gunned down at every possible instant, whether it be trying to even get a job or walking down the street. Later updates completely removed the previous mission system which held the experience up, dumbed down the graphics, and completely broke physics, and now the game is pretty much abandoned.
Round mode is still there, but a lot of mechanical changes have just made shooting people and getting the $$$ easy as pie, so there's barely any activity.
TLDR: Good video on how the game died. ua-cam.com/video/UY28vCBOELA/v-deo.html&t
Criken and his band of friends used to play it a ton. All of their streams/videos on it were all bangers.
It is still a fun time, we host events every so often, tons of fun. Is a shame the community is so small.
@@drjian6852 Sub Rosa died?? I playee it like 8 months ago and I didnt see that, a2 maj....
Absolutely loving the ode to Ferris Bueller you slipped in at 48:30. Nicely done. MIDI of The Smiths is total cherry on the top.
Hey, nice catch!
Being a player of Second Life since 2006, it's always fun to see a new person's perspective of my weird ass game. You didn't do anything wrong, in fact you brought to light again how hard it is to get into it for anyone who's curious and doesn't have any friends to teach them the ropes. There's a ton of beautifully made places with the ability to use mesh, shaders, and normals, but because the game still has all the old stuff as well available to players, if they don't know what they're doing, they'll just end up mismatching literal decades of content, or paying Lindens (LBux) for stuff that doesn't look good, yet costs the same as something 10000x higher quality. It's a money hungry game to make it work right, but you end up getting amazing places like the Final Fantasy 7 Roleplay sim, which looks to the T from all three versions of the game. And it's not weird to enter a sim filled to the absolute brim with people, hundred strong though, constantly and consistently.
It's just way too easy to just stumble across nothing but empty stores and strip clubs and see nothing worthwhile.
Do you know why the game may have been slow to load any of the textures and objects? Is that due to the game engine or is it serverside?
its crazy to me this YT guy who did the video thinks SL is dead or close to dead when it has x2 the active players then VRchat XD
@@cantflyforshit Since pretty much everything in the game is usermade it's often down to creators being too fancy with their textures. A lot of assets use textures that are WAY too high-resolution for what they need to be (there's infamous examples of jewelry like rings that use several 2048x2048 textures... now imagine someone has one on each finger, and your PC has to download and render all of that in realtime!). You basically need to play with a heavily lowered render distance, and limit how many other avatars appear on screen.
There are also third party viewers that optimize the game in various ways, I think the default second life viewer is better now but it's still not great especially by default
I still don’t see the allure of the game at all though, just looks like a walking simulator
@Cameron Millspaugh it's a bit misrepresented here IMO. It has by far the most advanced avatar system in the internet virtual world games. You can make very advanced looking avatars but you need to know what you're doing and where to go and probably he also used an outdated viewer bc places in sl can look very good. And altho it looks like it's empty in this video, there's a pretty big user base and I'm surprised that he managed to meet nobody. Sl has very crowded places.
You’re a pleasant blend of funny and not over-the-top, which is super important in longform content like this. I’m a new fan
but it was "this is how my family cracks jokes" type of stuff and it was a little cringe, like... have you ever left your home city or turned off the sopranos reruns?
sure
sure
same
All these companies sponsoring these extremely small worlds that were practically dead at their peak is almost a 1:1 mirror of the Metaverse today.
It's never a not a dumb comment day in the comment section of this video
To be fair, the one with the most licensed content and advertisements, "Second Life", was genuinely pretty large at its peak. The game had over a million users who were, collectively, spending tens of millions of dollars a year. You can definitely tell that time period has come and gone, with a lot of areas that look frozen in the pop culture of the late 2000s, but the idea actually makes some sense. It tapped into a large niche of players who enjoyed the social aspects of MMORPGs, but found the actual gameplay annoying.
The rest of the games either have significantly less licensed content, seem like they might have paid for the content to advertise the game (like BowieWorld), or seem highly likely to be using the IP without any actual licensing.
@@NyanCatHerder nah Second Life is still highly active and unlikely to fade out anytime soon because it has established itself with a large user base, in-game economy, and comprehensive features. Other games like IMVU and VRChat dominate the virtual world space for similar reasons, making it difficult for newer games to gain traction. Many older virtual world games died off as these platforms offered more advanced features, better social interaction, and customization. Essentially, established platforms fulfill users’ needs, leaving little reason to explore niche or newer games in the same genre.
Oh man, IMVU. What a throwback. I used to play that a whole lot when I was like 12. I made some good friends there that I still speak with to this day.
I thought IMVU sounded familiar. Never played it myself but I remember seeing a lots of ads for it when I was younger, around 2005 maybe. I think some girls on my class played it. Creating different avatars and styles etc and showing them off to each other.
I had heard of second life too, rest of these games I've never even heard before.
@@JackTheNoobersame here, sounded familiar but i’d never heard of second life until recently. I was 10 in 2005 and only ever played PS2, always thought IMVU was a girls game lmfao
@@JackTheNoober Oh god those IMVU ads were everywhere along with SmileyCentral and CursorMania lmao 😭
Sadly none of the players he saw in the rooms were fake. IMVU tended to attract socially awkward people and now they're basically the only ones left on the platform. People that are so bad at socializing they can't even talk to someone through a keyboard unless they know them. These days they're AFK/ignoring you and just using it to ERP with their virtual SO. You still can find some rooms where people talk though, so it's not really a dead game even though it seems like the majority of the players online are bots.
Wouldn't recommend it in the slightest.
Me and my firends used to play IMVU around 2018 and the community there is just the best
Meridian 59 was the bomb back in the days, it felt so unreal walking around in a "big" world where other players from around the world where walking around at the same time.
Yeah I remember when it first came out in the dark ages it was like $10 an hour or some shit lol. It was always a game I wanted to play but didn't have a credit card at 12.
the game set the standard for everquest and later, world of warcraft.
@@nazgulsenpai That's an insane price. Like an internet café fee
Sub Rosa was so good game. Ill never forget how I met with other businessman and he said to us.
"It appears you want this disc. You can have it if you..."
In that moment he and his friends were hit by high speed car and start flying away. One of us run pick up disc we looked at him and he said
"What? Hes dead. He won't need it in heaven. Were rich, now get to car an lets get out of it before someone hit us"
When he started to run towards us thru road he was hit by car and send flying. This game is pure comedy it's like "naked weapon"
"I hate being grounded..."
"I am 30".
The dry wit on this man.
His wit is so dry that it absorbs water.
Never been happier to stumble upon a channel than via your disturbing game iceberg. Keep up the fantastic work!
He's a real diamond amongst coal.
I just gotta say your profile picture is the best thing
"3 questions in and i think i found the first bump in the road." such comedic timing on that. kudos!
I love how these virtual worlds tend to look like someone's fever dream mixed with advertisement and teen angst.
Truly the promised world of cyberpunk.
Yeah that's just the 90s
The Millionaire creation in Virtual Paradise was actually really well crafted; especially with the in-game episodes
Right? I was blown away by how much dedication they put into it.
Absolutely crazy amount of effort, I can tell the people involved really cared about this. I always love seeing really weird but clearly very sincere ways that people express themselves.
That being said, who the tf even has to think about a bar of metal being an ingot?
@@Churchgrimmpeople who existed before minecraft
As someone who has played Second Life for about 15 years and also have made quite a bit of money out of the game too (By selling land on sims like you spoke about.) it's honestly kind of a spectacle for US who play second life as well. My group of friends and myself will randomly go to sims like that just to find some wild things, from completely intact and working water parks and a whole ass recreation of central park. A lot of this stuff can even come and go so I'm not even sure what is still around, There ARE some places you can go to Redlyne though like London and the Welcome Islands, there are some other places as well but I forget them.
Sub Rosa is a hidden gem. It’s surprisingly good or atleast was like a year ago. Underrated game
This
It was played by Jschclatt, Jerma, Rimmy, and General Sam, not particularly hidden just forgotten
@@Necromediancer neglected by terrible devs
Sub rosa is terrible. Was talked into buying it by a friens and instnalty regretted it.
it's ded and neglected
Seeing the old music news was so interesting. Its literally a time capsule or like time just suddenly stopped one day and everyone vanished in a spooky way.. its so cool
I know you probably won't read this. But you make some really great content, I remember back in May before I left for the Navy's bootcamp, Recruit Training Command, I had binged every one of your videos until three in the morning and didn't regret it. Now that I'm out, I finally have time to watch this channel again! Thanks for the wonderful content!
Lol i always watch his videos late at night too!!!
your voice, humour, and editing style really sells this interesting concept of a series. please make this be a big thing you do
20:00 I am a huge wrestling fan, so I can help. That poster was The Rock vs Stone Cold Steve Austin from Wrestlemania X7(17). This was their second match in their 3 matches at Wrestlemania. (The first being at Wrestlemania 15 and the last on wrestlemania 19. It took place on April 1, 2001 and it regarded as not only the best Wrestlemania of all time, but possibly the best Wrestling Pay-Per-View of all time. The match is infamous for Stone Cold turning Heel (or bad guy to non-wrestling fans) and siding with is long time rival Vince (Mr.) McMahon. There were also other posters, the one I saw was King of the Ring 2001. That PPV had Shane McMahon getting thrown through real glass by Kurt Angle. So this map was either made or last updated in 2001.
Cool!
47:24 "I went for a zero magic build cuz it's all a bunch of shit. Wizards aren't even real"
fucking hilarious
It would be cool to do interviews with the active players to ask what keeps them on and about their community!
@Jamés Banios sadly ur prob right, but its so interesting to see people on these old games
@@jamesbanios9476way of life nowdays sadly, it happened to my community, so I don’t have any sympathy for the other hidden games anymore
@@aydenbeta1380I don't think you understand the fundamental concept of how sympathy/empathy work.. If it happened to you before.
The map "Grid" was a recreation of the set from Tron: Legacy when he first gets teleported into the Grid and is sitting at the Grid version of his dads computer desk. Great movie that is welllll worth a watch
Was gunna say everything you said. XD
TRON LEGACY SWEEP
Idk how this guy missed as many pop culture references as he did lol, kind of funny.
That track at 50:07 - amazing piece of music and love that you noticed it !! The music was composed by Gene Rosenberg who did the score to Furcadia as well!
Do you know the name of it because it is really good
@@theghostofvarresh I found track on UA-cam that you want - meridian 59 ost 69 walk 7
@@theghostofvarresh "Meridian 59 OST - 69 Walk 7". I think "Walk 7" is the name of the song.
@@bigjoegamer thanks and it is
@@theghostofvarresh You're welcome. Enjoy the music and God bless you 🙂
He returns, and getting a sequel has temporarily cured my depression. Thank you.
Hey guys, look, it's Yuri Ddlc!
@Damsen people when person enjoys something:
@@thebest.1837 You can enjoy something without telling everyone you have self diagnosed depression lol
"gosh, just let people enjoy plucking their eyes out, just let people bleed their own arms dry, they're not affecting anybody, ugh"
Wow! What a nice comment thread! I’m glad we’re all showing each other love and understanding. :)
I'm obsessed with this series. I just know that for some of these games, these videos will be the most clear footage that'll ever get saved of them. And I'm impressed with how well you manage to cover these empty worlds while keeping the videos entertaining.
Really appreciate the Trigun title card music. Very nice touch that both goes well with the vid and makes me feel all tingly inside from the fact that I've realized it.
I am so glad i found your channel. Everything about it is fantastic, your accent, your content, your editing! Thank you for being here!
Something i remember from imvu is that if someone doesnt have guest next to their name it means they have the subscription, which gives them a "whisper" option. It basically just means they can dm each other in the room. I just noticed that all the players you thought were fake didnt have "guest" in their name so they were probably just talking to each other that way
Dr. Kleiner being questioned by disembodied voices while standing next to the Delorean Time Machine is something that seems out of a fever dream.
I love these , it’s like exploring abandoned forgotten cities.. even more sad these are human creation that will eventually be lost. Forever.
I know realistically there are only so many “dead” games but man I love this and the first video, I’d love to see this be a semi-regular series.
And most modern games are hosted by big companies now too so when they die they will definitely just shut down and not by left for this kind of digital archaeology which is kinda sad
It's so hard for me to watch you navigating SecondLife and going to some of the forgotten sims. But-- I'm also glad that it was visited. There's a bunch of places that are much much better, but there's a lot of those W E I R D places like the ones you bumped into. I kinda wish I might have bumped into you while you were checking Second Life out to show you around to the higher quality sims. x3
Either way! Great content, and lovely to see all the old games.
The game is very much alive. 23 destinations with over 20 people excluding adult rooms.
The guy saying the answer to which bar was an ingot was a "bump in the road" is either some damn good acting, or the clip actually comes from all the way back when crafting in games wasn't a thing yet 😂
Holy shit
It just hit me how i learned what an ingot was, i just thought he was fucking stupid
Iron ingots existed before crafting games xD
@@Crestnutt yeah, but most people wouldn't know what was. How did you learn what they were called? Cause I learned fron minecraft
@@jmjedi923 not to sound old but i did not grow up on minecraft;) Iron ingots are a part of a lot of industrial businesses:)
@@jmjedi923 iron ingots are a part of many games from before Minecraft existed. Also, crafting in games has been around for much longer too.
14:58 This is Sting. He was in a band called "The Police" that formed in the late 70s and disbanded in the early 80s. Most people would put them into the "New Wave" genre but they had a lot of inspirations from punk music and reggae. They are really popular so you've probably heard some of their hits (Every Breath You Take, Message In A Bottle, Roxanne, Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic, and a lot of other songs.) Think my favorite song of theirs is "Be My Girl - Sally" which is kind of a deep cut from their first album "Outlandos d'Amour". It's about an inflatable sex doll, cool song!
Also cool video I love this kind of stuff.
I had to scroll way too far to find someone who knew this was Sting. Hopefully he sees it.
Knew I recognised him, can't believe I was right
knew who it was the second it popped up. good stuff. sting's solo music is still incredible, i love his album "the last ship."
I know Redlyne's a few years younger than me, but I was genuinely surprised he didn't recognize Sting.
WHAT ARE THE SCHOOLS TEACHING THESE DAYS?
@@macintalkshow he's older than me and i recognized sting instantly lol. i guess thinking more about it though, none of my friends would recognize him just by his face.
around an hour ago i commented on the first video in this series mentioning There, completely unaware that you actually found and explored it in the next video. the entire There section of this video was so nostalgic to me, i remember when i was a kid the first day i started playing the game, i teleported to tyr tower gate (the exact same one you went to in this video) and fell into the abyss while walking across the bridge. i spent hours trying to get out, completely forgetting that i could teleport out via the map
seeing the game so empty and devoid of all the structures players had placed in the main beach area and the rest of the world like Vista Point and Twin Lakes makes me really sad. i'm glad the game is still around, but the things that made it special and fun to explore and mess around in are completely gone
Yeah...I played a lot of There back in the day and it's sad that we can never go back to it how it was.
I absolutely loved Sub Rosa back when mission mode was still playable and seeing it randomly pop up after a bunch of 90s/early 2000s virtual chat rooms was painful
i feel so sad that i missed its glory days. lifelong regret. Schlatt’s video and Jerma’s playthrough will remain as time capsules i guess
I miss sub Rosa.
It’s a “you had to be there” type game. Open world was kinda cringe but round mode was peak, and some dude would host mini games on weekends sometimes with a zombie mode around 2019 I think.
very sad this is probably the last time we'll meet Googie...well, Googie will always be googieing inside my heart
I'll always be here for you
At least we still have Google.
@@googie15 didn’t expect googie to be a destiny player lol
Seeing that Who Wants to be a Millionaire bit put a smile on my face. I used to be obsessed with that show when I was younger, and I would have TOTALLY been on board with all that stuff had I been aware of it at the time.
Worlds actually wasn’t “dead long before the server went offline”! I played it sometime last year, and it was online back then; it had a pretty substantial user base, they were all friendly and chatty. It seemed their community was actually pretty active and did events together and everything. I have no idea what happened between now and then, because it really wasn’t that long ago that I checked it out. I’m almost tempted to think there may have been another download out there somewhere that is the actual active one. Anyway, it was pretty cool, there was an avatar customizing place where I gave myself the body of a woman in a black dress and the head of a Canadian goose. It was quite the look
pretty sure he joking about that directly about the poetry world. not the whole game
Wow you really got assblasted huh
could be like covid lockdown differences maybe?
@@op-nl7dj or the developer's decision to get into NFTs
@@Karmy. rite, deadass forgot about that
Ghost towns are always fascinating not just for their frozen in time aesthetic, but for the often interesting story everyone up and left. Video game ghost towns like these are no exception.
i absolutely love this channel. i discovered it from the first "Exploring Dead Games" video and I've just got done watching the Dark Games Iceberg series. i love the humor and chill vibes, so i subscribed and cannot wait for more videos :)
39:56 I particularly love how they have an endless loop playing on the tv of Bakugo, a character who has absolutely fuck all to do with being a Gamer™ instead of like... Kirito or something
Even though i have 0 nostalgia for any virtual world since i didn't play any, the idea of exploring these abandoned places is such a cool niche i didn't know i needed.
"3 questions in and i think i found the first bump in the road" is my new meme. thanks for that one
At 20:43 appears what seems to be the BT logo.
So BT doesn’t stand for Big Time, it stands for British Telecom, one of the telecommunications companies in the UK.
Edit: research reveals that BT Openworld was a former brand name for BT’s ISP division. It’s unclear when they stopped using the name but it seems to place that map around the early 00s. Why such a random game was presumably endorsed by BT I have no idea.
Early internet was wild, companies were jumping on anything as advertising and sponsorships was still novel and unexplored
BT Openworld was the first name for British Telecom nationwide broadband service (now called BT Openreach). Many Internet Cafes in the early-2000s in England offered Openworld connections for 15p per minute on a pay-as-you use basis, or 90 minutes for £5.99. That's BT's logo in the game too.
Second Life seems to be the same as it was when I played it about 10 years ago - full of places to spend real money after the game went popular and a handful of people made a lot of money fast. That and watching everything load in so slowly you could probably make a game of guessing which textures would load next.
I’m screaming. Been watching part 1 for the last few days and I check the channel today and we have a PART 2 NOW! This channel is such a hidden gem I’m obsessed
louisville slug em back to sleep
I clicked on this video immediately. Such an interesting and somewhat eerie thing to do. Thank you for the work you put into this!
I listen to this when I need to focus at work. It’s relaxing, I think it’s your voice. Thanks for all the work you do!
The unfinished GRID map in Virtual World appears to be the beginnings of a Tron map. That unfinished room you showed in the clip appeared to be a recreation of the room where Flynn is accidentally digitized into the Grid in the basement of the arcade.
Okay, as a AW, Second Life Vet and virtual world explorer, I have this to remark on the video:
1. Virtual Paradise was created, IIRC, by a collective of ActiveWorlds users, mainly the younger audience that tended to hang around AWTeen back in the day. The main dev was from the Netherlands if I recall right - It was made mainly because they were dissatisfied with the fact that AW has been on life support with no attempts by Rick Noll or anyone at AWI to do anything to make the platform competitive again (Not that you really could with a almost 30 year old engine without destroying a lot of historical works in AW). I was on VP for a time, but eventually moved on to continue my time in Second Life.
The AW Userbase is a three-ring fuckfuck circus of partially deceased former citizens (I've been witness to quite a few in-world funerals and the sort, caused by the fact AW tended to attract older users), Users from after it got mainstream attention from Vinesauce and the sort, and people like me who come in ranging from once in a blue moon to semi-regularly.
2. Second Life isn't 'continually declining'. Our userbase (I speak our, because I'm one of the more prominent members of the community in SL) is still quite active, and we have more or less stabilized at around 30-40k average concurrency, with around 100k~ or so active users. There is a small community of SL Residents on twitter and other social media that are active and discuss matters in world.
The prime reason SL gets the 'dead' moniker, and it's not unjustified in its' entireity, is because of the way SL is set up as one massive contiguous world, rather than seperate instanced worlds like VRChat or seperate individual servers like Activeworlds and the sort. There's lots of activity on SL, it just requires time to search and explore to find a place to go, which isn't really explained well to new users - something Linden Lab has been trying to fix.
3. IMVU is.. well, if people think SL is bad, IMVU is worse. It's called the sitting simulator for good reason and a lot of IMVU 'refugees' have moved to Second Life. The platform suffers from dated features, lack of updates or care from the developers, among others. Hell, their 'music' feature? Features songs from no later than fucking early 2010 if I recall. IMVU's only redeeming feature is that it has a mobile app, but good luck keeping people interested when your platform turns into discount dress-up that will get uninstalled in a month.
4. Worlds.com is infamous in the metaverse (Before people ask, this is considered a coloquiallism for all virtual worlds and the sort, and not related to just Meta's Horizon Worlds) for being host to patent trolling by the owner. Nexpo's Worlds.com cult video goes into detail as to why Worlds.com is still around, and into the patent trolling. Essentially, Worlds.com sued ActiveWorlds Inc, Linden Research (Second Life), IMVU, and countless other companies for infringing on their patent, which is vital to creating virtual worlds. Effectively, worlds.com shafted a lot of virtual world platforms because of greed, forcing these other companies to deal with both legal messes and paying out patent royalties.
The patent was due to expire a year or so ago, I don't know if Worlds tried to renew it or anything.
hundred acre wrist
You an interesting critter bro (thanks for the info)
lore
interesting info, thanks. always interesting to hear from the perspective of someone involved
I'd like to hear the perspective of someone involved in all this, what's the target audience for projects like this in the current year? I thought it was just streamers or yuppies looking to trade "virtual assets", but apparently there's a whole community, so there must be a wide variety of targets the project caters to.
I love the colorful/flashy 90's text font. Its so nostalgic. I wonder what it was like to play on one of these games back then.
Used to play There all the time as a child, remember it being pretty good. Game just randomly pops into my head every few years for no reason. Also sad to see Sub Rosa on the list, its an amazing game deserved way more success than it got
Because of how sad it is (to me at least), I find it weirdly difficult to think about how many friendships were formed in some of these old worlds. So many people have seen their friendships slowly fade away, or said their last goodbyes to their 90s online friends. How many people are thinking about these old online friends today? Wondering how they're doing? It makes me feel sentimental and is almost enough to make me cry... No time for crying now though, because despite how sad it is, these people are probably doing okay these days! So that's nice to think about at least. Hope that made sense... also OldPete65 is a Superchad Supreme. 😗
Internet archeology basically.
If you never met your "online" friends irl. Then they were never your friends.
@@gomogay972 Yeah.
@@sirlimen333 You can form deep connections without ever physically meeting, not to mention that for some people there might be huge barriers preventing them from being able to meet online friends in person like disability or the cost of travel if they live far away
I know what you mean. When I get on my old forums and see it’s been years since a friend log in, I get sad. Wonder what they are all up to these days.
I have become addicted to this series. Cant wait for future videos into these nichè dead games. Great commentary my man.
14:46 The way you responded to the Twin Towers made me absolutely lose it and I can’t explain why. Your sense of humor is impeccable
Hey Redlyne! I found your channel yesterday and fell in love with your Exploring Dead Games video. You can just imagine my reaction when I saw this video come up on my page. Thanks for the work you do!
Same thing happened to me lol. Found it yesterday and magically today theres a sequel lol
I legit watch all your videos over and over again, super chill and entertaing.
Ah someone’s probably already said it but “The Grid” is what the world inside the “Tron” machine is called. The only half completed room there looks VERY similar to the room from Tron:Legacy that teleports people in and out of the Grid.
Came here to say this. Yes: It looks like someone attempted to re-create The Grid from Tron: Legacy - the structure that does exist is indeed a recreation of Kevin Flynn's hidden arcade office. And... That's all the further they got.
He did it. The mad lad did it. He made a part 2. My wife and I fell asleep to part one for months.
Did you two have sex while he explored dead games
Love the Ferris Bueller reference with the painting. One of my favorite scenes from that movie. Also great video!
These videos are fascinating, the fact that these games are still available is astounding, makes me wonder who is genuinely playing them and their reasonings for it. Side note - your music choices are perfect, always love to hear some Dead Rising 2 ambience.
I like when you encounter internet ghosts, random players that sometimes say something
Its lik exploring an abandoned building and seeing things left behind that are now probably just somones distant memory
32:27 “Hits Expert Island started off strong with me falling from the sky to some Christmas music.”
THANK YOU FOR MORE CONTENT redlyne my friend im telling you YOU are the next big thing. great voice, hilarious editing, pace yourself baby bc the wait is worth it for this kinda thing! Congrats on the success man you earned it
I love your sense of humour, and your editing is chefs kiss. Look forward to whatever's next :)
Love your commentary on these videos, so entertaining and funny. Please do a part 3!
the excitement u have when revisiting gogie is amazing
It's just calming watching Red going through these games, and its a combination of his narration and good humour. The feel I get when he talks is like a comical Joe Pera, if that makes sense. Great video, man.
At 20:42 that company 'BT' is actually British Telecom. They're still a large company in the UK providing internet etc.
Loved the video, just discovered your channel after the dead minecraft severs. It didn't leave me feeling sad (which surprised me, as the idea of nostalgic things living on in a dead form easily could), but neither was it happy. It just seemed peaceful in some way, Like those worlds were in retirement.
Worlds making a comeback as some weird nft metaverse vr hellscape in 20 years sounds like a nightmare yet is likely to happen which is the scariest thing.
Sounds cool
@@TheSultan1470 anything involving nfts and crypto shit is immediately turned to garbage
@@the_Googie You're just saying that
@@the_Googie Oh, yeah, and weeb alert
I used to play There from 2007-2009 almost every day, it used to be PACKED with people at all hours! It used to be so lively, and there were always things to explore and people to talk to. I remember there was a huge skatepark or skating ramp that I would always play around at, and I remember sitting at the campfire one of the first times I played while I figured out the limitations of the swear filter :) I really miss this game, and maybe it's the hazy memory from when I was a young child who barely knew what the internet was, but I have a lot of fond memories of There.
Two words.
Buggy races. :)
@@TheOvadex YOOOOOOOOOOO
The was a pretty serious racing scene for a few years there, i remember it getting pretty competitive
@@TheOvadexthe buggy physics were so fun. That and the paint ball stuff you could do. Just shoot people into another zone lol
I remember getting into it because they had the band Korn doing a meet and greet in the game.
okay that meme at 48:30 KILLED ME. I subbed immediately, you got me hook line and sinker.
I love seeing these, I try to imagine what it was like when they were used in their prime and what people would do or even where they were now
So weird that you would say that, that’s exactly what intrigues me the most. I wonder what it would be like to have gone to one of the online events like the concerts and the type of people that would be there doing the same. I wonder if they still remember even playing 🤔
So weird that you would say that, that’s exactly what intrigues me the most. I wonder what it would be like to have gone to one of the online events like the concerts and the type of people that would be there doing the same. I wonder if they still remember even playing 🤔
Yeah Secondlife is one of those newb-unfriendly simulators that require some setup and knowledge before it gets good.
With 90% of the map being practically dead, getting to the populated, new and current worlds is quite hard.
I can also put together a list of interesting spots some time, the game is still doing great if you don't look at the dust!
That aside, something friends and I like to do is get a car and drive across a main road on one of the bigger islands.
It's fun to see all the old abandoned places people created, Chernobyl vibes!
not wrong, their is alot of dead space. in SL its all out in the open. its not like VRchat where if no one is their hosting the world comes down. everything is always up and connected (for the most part connected)
The transition into the dancing at 40:19 had me in tears. It was nice to see Waltuh enjoy himself on his journey through IMVU
Redlyne is the only youtuber who makes content like this who isn't the most annoying person ever and i thank you for that
@15:02 the 90s musician is Sting, he sang "roxanne" and "every breath you take"
Both decent tunes
That's what I was thinking too but I wasn't 100% sure. He's awesome
@@cwalden918 roxannnnne (you dont have to) put on the red light! Great tune😂
3:49 this is actually a very faithful recreation of Flynn's basement from the movie TRON Legacy, and the name "Grid" is a reference to the in-universe virtual reality of the same name
I knew it sounded familiar. At 39:44 in the "Club Jams" room it's literally playing the track from Killer 7 titled 'Rave On'! (A absolute banger that played in game when literally going up a set of stairs every so often) This caught me completely off guard as an addict for that weird old game. This video brought me joy, in the outro you mentioned video production and regardless of how long videos take I look forward to seeing whatever content you make in the future!