Sega Jupiter - Cancelled Consoles - Sega Solar System - THGM
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A man in a Top Hat with a Moustache reviews rare video games in his massive collection. Appreciate the finer things in life. The Top Hat Gaming Man is currently traveling around the globe, playing the best games for the handheld around the world. The Best games are like fine wines and only get better with age. Today Top Hat Gaming Man talks about the Sega Jupiter and the other planetary Sega projects.
I got teased at school for having large camera case for my game gear back in 1998 everyone shut up when i started playing sonic while everyone was still playing black and white pokemon
James Burke and yet the game boy won that battle.
The Sega STV was actually released worldwide and was quite prevalent in North America
Dude, he can't even hold a 2600 joystick properly. Of course he's gonna get his facts wrong.
THAT FLYER HE USES IS FROM AN AMERICAN STV CABINET!!
SEGA!
The STV Titian was released in North America with Die Hard Arcade. I've been in the Arcade business since 1989 and have worked on those machines.
if the saturn was backwards compatible with megadrive,32x, and sega cd it would have been a videogame powerhouse that people would have wanted and would have definitely put pressure on sony offering a library of over already 1000 backwards compatible games at release. Think about that.
It would have been a neat feature, but adding backwards compability would have made the Saturn even more expensive, making it even harder to compete with the cheaper PSX... With how cheaply you could get a MD2 at the time if you wanted one, I don't think it would have made it a hit at all.
Ryan A' Gamers Lounge Actually i think the Saturn should have been THE Sega CD 32x. If they beefed up the 32x a little in clock speed, ram, and featured some more hardware functions, they could sell it in America/Europe for $/£200 for owners of the Genesis and CD, and all three units could work together as a new system.
For example, the ram could be the sum of the 32x and CD’s banks of 6 megabits each, and they could function kinda like the dual channel ram feature in computers.
They could also sell ram carts down the line to add to the available memory in games. Even better, they could also sell or bundle an equivalent to the Sega Trio adapter so you only need one power port for all three, *and* they could even sell combo units, much like the CDX and the cancelled Neptune, which will be great particularly in Japan as people can just buy the 3-in-1 variant, which would be likely under a new brand altogether, and they can simplify setup and still be able to play all the previous Mega-whatever titles without buying those units.
Basically SoA/SoE can keep their Genesis/Mega Drive fanbase, and SoJ can start over with a new console brand.
Sege needs to see this
@@todesziege Also true, but a combined 32X-CD console like the Neptune CD would've run all 1,000+ Sega CD games, 32X games, and still be competitive with the PlayStation 1 for overall 2D and 3D graphics, colors, sound, and capability. Many games designed for the 32X look and play as well as their Saturn counterparts, and a few are actually better than the Saturn release.
@@MaxAbramson3 32x cd is very underpowered compared to the ps1 and n64. Small ram, cache ram and slower 32-bit clockpeed than the saturn.
Better solution, sega should've made the neptune similar to the saturn design. Replace the vdp1 with its own vdp (unified vram with the vdp2 or indentical vdp2 background feature in Neptune vdp and adjustable framebuffer), use sh1 or Motorola 68k20 for cd/Sound, dual cpu set up or cpu (or faster cpu like NEC V820 series, PowerPC or m68k040) with a faster dsp (Same clockspeed as saturn cpu).
I fell in love with the SEGA Neptune when i first saw it in the pages of EGM. It's such a shame it never came out!
Millions of people over the years have asked for a combined "Tower of Power," a 32X-CD in one unit. Had it been built around a unified memory architecture, they wouldn't have had the bandwidth and color limitations of the Genesis/Megadrive, and the rendering power (160,000 flat shaded polygons/sec) was almost the same as the PlayStation and could've handled almost any of the PS1 titles, but at higher resolution (320x224 as opposed to the most common 256x224).
@@MaxAbramson3 360k is the ps1 lowest flat shading polygons and it maxes at 500k. 390k to 500k flat shading polygons will be ideal for your system. Also, 648x448 resolution like the ps1 and n64.
You'll need saturn dsp or similar but a higher clock speed, same MIPS for instructions (ie 71.5 MIPS) but easier to program (low level assembly and c programming). VDP and CPU needs to be faster like 28.6 MHz like the saturn. Including a lot of ram and caches.
I would have loved a Dreamcast 2.
Terrestrial - təˈrɛstrɪəl
adjective: on or relating to the earth.
Maybe he's trying to say celestial but he has a rare bone disease
doesn't matter as sega was naming the console codenames after figures from mythology it just happen that so were the planets but when you get titan and janus you should know
Mercury!
Mars!
Jupiter!
Venus!
Uranus!
Neptune!
Pluto!
Saturn!
Power! Make Up!
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Sailor sun
Sega
Andromeda
Sun
Universe
Galaxy
You can get a power supply that will power the MD, MCD and 32x from one plug. I don’t know who put it out, but I know MLiG did a video on it in their tricks and tips series.
I saw a tutorial on how to easily make one out of a laptop power supply.
I bought an m trio. From usa. 1 plug with 3 connectors in various configurations to fit different models of either md 32x or cd. Best add on i ever bought
Yeah I got mine from Retrogamecave
Sega Names Their Consoles After Planets
Is that a very young David Mitchell in that advert at 4:51
Wat? Wasn't Sega Earth the Sega CD?
dreamcast is the best i programed for it.. 80% of games were in straight C not one game was using it's full power.. that's a fact no sh4 asm just C it was much more powerfull then people know.. At the end of it's normal life games done in sh4 asm would of looked like ps2 game at the end of it's life.. it was just never used..slowdown on dreamcast games is due to using straight C not the machine..
Great video Top Hat! I loved my Sega GameGear back in the 90s. I also had a Game Boy, but my father played it continuously with Tetris haha. I know a lot about the videogames industry but its nice to hear and see something I didn't know before! Keep up the good work!
Sega Uranus is my favorite Sega console that never came to be.
LOL
*SEGA Ur Anus*
Does Rich know about you 😂😂
Surprised the name *Solar System* hasn’t already been used in some other form by Game Companies
Man I hope Knuckles Chaotix gets ported to the Switch.
YEAHHHHH
I'm partial to the Dreamcast, personally. First Sega console beyond the Game Gear I actually had. I was always a Sega fan growing up but familial compromise dictated that my family was a Nintendo family. I've since gotten into the Sega fold more properly, and as much as I've grown to love the Saturn, the Dreamcast takes the cake for me.
You should try to procure a Wondermega RG-M1. It's the Rolls-Royce of Sega consoles. The cd lid is power opening/closing with LED accent lights surrounding it, enhanced audio processing with selectable effects, s-video output, MIDI output, karaoke with 2 mike inputs and effects, headphone jack. I scored one for a good deal because the power opening cd lid wasn't working and all it needed was a new belt.
I still don’t believe we lost sega (mostly)
why from 10:07 till the end is that crazy man attacking children rofl
The Sega Uranus would have been so powerful that it would destroy all of its rivals.
In the aftermath, you could say that it had wrecked 'em.
Damn near killed 'em
The Sega Uranus is an unreleased Sega Genesis add-on that lets you play your library of Nintendo and Super Nintendo games on your Sega Genesis. Only one was ever made, and Yuji Naka owns it! :D
I remember years ago reading STC magazine. It had a sort of exclusive on the Saturn. Which was like a hidden treasure at the time. Then the even more hidden treasure was the Jupiter. I am going from my memory. But if I remember right. The Saturn was going to be 32 bit and the Jupiter would come out a few years later as a sort of premium version of the Saturn at either 64 or 128 bit.
The Sega Earth was an add on using Laserdisc technology; it was a predecessor to the Mega CD that was meant to be produced by Sega and Pioneer. Likewise, "Uranus" in the Japanese language sounds like "Uranu", which is "Won't Sell"; THAT'S why Sega never *used* it.
I ordered an AC adapter that has all 3 Genesis/32x/Sega CD on 1 plug. It's supposed to be a more efficient power source as well. Retrogamecave has them if you're interested.
Here's an idea; merge the Sega Pico and the Sega Picture Magic *together!* See how well THAT sells...
I'd really liked to have seen the Neptune released. I'm really fond of the Saturn. Big thanks for playing Nights music in background. Sega really knew how to make music and Nights, and Christmas Nights into Dreams is some of my Sega favs.
Just subscribed . Great videos and finally someone who knows his stuff!
2:26 Great death stare Luigi.
But what about the Sega Multi-Mega?
My 32x literally only requires one power supply. It's just a regular model 2 power supply, at that. If I plug in a second power supply, the Genesis won't turn off, and really doesn't work quite right.
I always thought that Sega missed a mark by not making a Mega CD 32X unified peripheral. I was frankly surprised that Saturn and Dreamcast did not feature any backwards compatibility, considering how much interest still existed in Sega games at that time!
Hopefully they do a 32x multi mega 32x/Genesis CD-32X after the megadrive mini 2.
Sega should have brought out a Sega Moon, then bought the rights to Sailormoon... they had almost every other guardian on the list (except Uranus, that's the cartridge slot you see if you bend over towards the mirror)
I really liked this. It seemed like a good change of pace from the usual, and you had the perfect SEGA BGM for it all. Good info too because I had never heard of Project Janus before. Naming all their consoles after the planets was just the perfect sprinkling of corporate bullshit to add that extra layer of magic SEGA had.
So we have The Sega CD,32X,Saturn,Neptune,Jupiter, and Pluto. Wow! Sega wasted so much money.
I was just feeling a bit depressed you’re videos always make me feel better
UA-cam can really help find empowering information.
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Neptune isn't a terrestrial planet. It's made of gas.
I'm just happy to have the Megadrive. The only time it felt as if Sega knew what they wanted and where they were going with it.
Sad we will never see the Sega Uranus.
Am I imagining things with your subscriber count? I'm sure it was in single digits for thousands when I subbed! You seem to be going viral!
Thought he would have lost a bunch after he got called out by another 'tuber for using footage without permission or credit (he acknowledged doing so, but the two didn't come to terms, though THGM said he wouldn't use the other 'tuber's footage any more).
I kind of wish the Saturn was reverse compatible with Genesis/Megadrive, Sega CD and 32X games. The hardware probably wasn't there yet but it would have been nice to be able to do so.
It could have been done, but it would have made it more expensive. They probably considered it but figured it wasn't worth it.
TMGM really disappointed when Sega pulled Uranus. Ahahahahaha!
What has happened with the game consoles of the past is what is happening with VR, its hard to really want to invest in one because you are not sure which one will stand the test of time, plus I think the graphics and UI need to improve fairly dramatically for them to be an everyday thing.
Why did the Saturn ad consist of a Karate Man beating up kids?
I really want a nomad. Have yet to find one. Great vid though, THGM.
Game reviews with a touch of class. -You can use this Top Hat it has a nice ring to it. ;)
If Earth in the 1990s turned out to be more of a PlayStation planet, could've Project Earth been another console to counter the PS1 or the codename for a PlayStation console?
Yeah, but did you know Super Mario 2 was actually Doki Doki Panic in Japan?
I'll tell you why Sega didn't use the Solar System for naming their consoles because it won't be fun and games when they reach Uranus
Always said that Nintendo and Sega missed a trick with the Saturn and N64 by not making them backwards compatible. They had cartridge slots so why the fuck not!
Only a 3rd party released backward compatible adapter for the n64.
that poor nomad, becoming the slave of a "chap" overseas!
I'm suprise saturn never had cart games and more rom/cart for their fighting games especially in NA. Jupiter idea was much better stop gap console than the 32x.
"Terrestrial entities"?? Don't you mean "celestial bodies"?
Do not question my broken brilliance!
Broken brilliance FTW!!
Actually, they are named after Greco-Roman gods in their Latin form. The planets/moving stars are named after these gods.
I know... except Uranus..., he's not in the latin form
I loved the 32x. Doom 32x was great, as was Star Wars Arcade
You can get a power supply with three jacks for the Sega trifector now. Sega should not have discontinued the 32x. It was apparently very intuitive to develop for and quite powerful for 2d and 3d (comparatively).
Of course the 32x is better than the SNES. It has 2 23Mhz cpus as well as the Mega Drive hardware to layer above or below. The SNES has a measly 3.5Mhz cpu. The snes really is the basket case system of the 16bit era with it fuzzy stretched out games with loads of slow down and super fuzzy sound. The 32x had 8bit 44Khz sound whearas the snes used 4bit upsampled samples at a maximum of 32Khz and only 64k as I'm sure your aware.
If the 32x was kept on the market it wouldn't have affected the Saturn's sales I don't think. Like you said, the Master System was for poor people like me but I never stopped thinking it was brilliant even after I upgraded. The 32x could have served the same purpose for the following generation and with the dual SH2's and new 15bit colour VDP, it could have delivered arcade perfect ports (from the previous gen at least) and some very interesting games, given at least 4 years on the market. If the cartridges and unit came down in price, I can see it being profitable alongside the Saturn.
I was going to ask about Dreamcast, but it looks not to have had a celestial name. Looks like it was known as "Whitebelt", then "Dural", and finally "Katana". If Wikipedia is accurate.
Looks like Wikipedia is not accurate then, or I missed something in skimming. Thanks for the clarification.
The Nomad and a 32 x both have the planet name on the motherboard
They really should have went with the Neptune for the 32x right off the bat. Would have saved a lot of headaches and frustrations.
Not really, that would have burnt everyone who already owned a Mega Drive. But it would probably have been good to have both available at launch, so you could choose if you wanted to buy the (cheaper) upgrade add-on or the new model console.
@@todesziege right better idea than 32x and 1995 neptune. The only problem it is not forward compatible with the upcoming Saturn.
@@maroon9273 Having the Saturn and 32X compatible with each other would have been great for both, but it probably would have been to complicated/expensive in reality.
I would have loved to see the Sega Pluto
How about videos on the Sega systems before the genesis/mega drive? There were quiet a few as well.
Great video
IF YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT SPACE YOU GOTTA KNOW ABOUT THE PLANETS. IF YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE PLANETS YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME RIGHT NOW.
SUN
MERCURUS
URANUS
WATER PLANET
PLUNTO
The Dreamcast is my favorite console, and I've always wanted to get a Master System. It just seemed to be heads and tails better than the NES.
The Master System came out two years later so it should be. It has some real gems on it too, and at least in Europe second hand prices for games are pretty low.
I would have liked to have had the Neptune it makes more sense I don't think people were ready for the price of the Satan yet
You could have had the function of it just by plugging a 32X into your Mega Drive. That's all it was going to be, just in a neater package (and lower price, presumably).
Did seriously try to pretend as if the black n white calculator screen game boy was better built then the game gear ? Its no comparison
So... The Sega Pico wasn't a celestial body project?
Would appear not to be, can't find anything by that name, though there IS a mountain on the moon called Pico Imbrium.
Mega drive with Mega CD. The perfect console in my opinion.
I would like to see the one that would of become the consul to follow the mega drive (genesis).
Sega was ahead of it's time.
What no Sega Sun?!
So sega jupiter was almost a stv.
Sega Uranus, now with Blast Processing!
You got me with that sega earth and i am not happy!!👿
Sega Earth is the Mega CD. Menu screen is the give-away.
sega should release a new console now in the gaming hype everybody would buy it just for the name. Saturn i prefer the most but dreamcast is very good too. people who are into arcade have no new console ps4/xbox are the same shit and nintendo is for little children.
Wonder if anyone started a fundraiser to sega to get back into the game. Like legitly contact Sega's big cheese got the ok for a go fund me. Would be way better than funding Atari.
Thank you I thurly enjoyed that 👍
There should be a fighting game that stars all the best retro gaming UA-camrs.
Wasn't the mega drive/genesis known as project earth?
Not quite, I have made a video on project Earth last month.
I thought the CD add on was Earth. It shows a image of Earth for it's background when you boot up.
the saturn was segas wiiu and the master system was so poorly marketed in america that i myself had not heard of it until 2003.So what you said about sega in the past could have done what nintendo did in th 80s huh if you dont know you will not buy.
What game is that, at 0:42-0:44?
SATURN = SATaN = SAURoN = Kronos = Time = Money = Adversary . SAURoN has one ring to rule them all, and so does SATURN.
Saturn has a lot of rings, actually.
But 1 ring to rule them all. Didn't say he only has 1 ring. lol
Dominik Sobolewski word. Illuminate confirmed!
Don't disagree with that.
Dominik Sobolewski house of el...ice Cube adverstised for Saturn..conspiracy 101
Breath of the wild@0:11 Top Hat! You're gonna break your weapon!
I always wondered why you swing around random stuff in your intro, and hit the ground with tree branches...
Is there any reason to that? A backstory perhaps ?
Fawlty towers
Saying Sega had a problem of making too many consoles is an understatement.
Most of these weren't their own consoles though, but revisions and variations.
Uranus is pronounced "Yoo-rain-us", not "Your anus". By the way, hey, THGM? Are you familiar with the JVC X'Eye? Like the Sega CDX/Sega Mega CDX, the JVC X'Eye is a standalone 2-in-1 Sega CD/Sega Mega CD/Genesis/Mega Drive hybrid. You should make a video about the JVC X'Eye.
It is only pronounced that way in new world colonies.
I nearly procured a JVC X Eye in a used game store in Oklahoma once, however it was new stock and the sales assistant hadnt priced it up yet, so I wasnt allowed it.
I have heard it pronounced "YIR-uh-niss" or "YIR-ih-niss", probably to avoid the other pronunciation.
Don't make things so complicated. "Your anus" sounds good to me.
Man I love your videos...
do a *i hate **_sega_** mars bars* video
And i would have bought all of them lol
Hat tip
saturn 4 life
I didn't love the Sega Saturn. I bought one after saving money for months from my paper route. I had it for years and only ran into a few games I thoroughly enjoyed. A Doom collection (doesn't count, it was just Doom and Doom II), Street Fighter Alpha 2, and Ghen War. Ghen War was fucking awesome and so was SFA II. I had tons of other games and they sucked my ass. I don't care what anyone says, Virtua Cop was a shit game. Zero replay value and not that fun the first time around. Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 were only fun for a little bit, until the novelty wore off after a very brief period. It, to me, was more of a Stewart from MadTV kind of system; "Look what I can do!" After that, the games didn't really have any fun factor. Pretty face and no personality kinda thing. I loved Sega with a passion, and Saturn ruined that.
Xbox is really Sega and only a few know the truth. Regardless it kind of became its successor by default. Xbox is Planet X and if you know about Planet X then you know how it all makes sense as Xbox (Microsoft) came in and took over.
You spelled "canceled" the American way. I am disappoint in you son.
> considers Neptune a "terrestrial entity" even though it's made of gas and ices (not sure Pluto counts either as, yknow, it's not actually The Earth)
> first two minutes of the actual post-intro video is dedicated to shitting all over the Gamegear from a very one-sided Gameboy fan perspective, calling it a "nightmare".
> Video title is about cancelled consoles allegedly, and the Jupiter, but by the point where I've paused it in disgust the latter hasn't even been namedropped let alone shown or discussed and you've talked almost exclusively about machines that actually made it to market and did reasonably well.
Sorry, I'm out, this alone has cured me of any remaining curiosity about the other Sega systems. Please take some time to think about your life.
Also if your GG overheats, you've got a bad one, ours never did that, and indeed it's the first time in all the 27 years since we got it that I ever heard of such a problem.
UA-cam earns me an extra 4 figure sum of money a month, on top of my day job. Pretty sure I do not need to re-think my life. Thanks for the advice though. Appreciated :)
There's all kinds of things that make loads of money when they really shouldn't. Getting big ad revenues doesn't mean your information isn't bunk. Just look at shit like Ancient Astronauts for a prime example.
is halleys comet gonna be a portable?
New THGM? YEEEAHHHHHHH
I can't be arsed to come up with a pun about the Uranus console.
What is the video game shown at 7:16?
Nevermind I figured it out LOL "wait long enough and they will figure it out themselves"
Hey THGM, am I losing my mind or do you wrestle on the British Indy scene?
I wrestled on the British Indy Circuit for ten years and make my return in two weeks.
Top Hat Gaming Man I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Hopefully you can get to Ireland at some stage with the OTT lads, I'd definitely make a top hat sign :)
Funnily enough, I applied for Irish Citizenship today!