got some campagnolo shamal carbon wheels fitted with p zero velo clinchers and ridenow tubes. my aluminium canyon is now 9240 grams ready to ride. with pedals, spares, cages, lights and whatnot.
Built it this way: Basso Venta rim brake, full Ultegra 8000 w/Dura Ace cassette and chain, Hunt wheels (1450gm), Pirelli P Zero Velo tires, TPU tubes, 3-T Team bar: 7.3kg/16# with the saddle du jour.
And what about stopping power and on bike enjoyment????? If it's a specific hill climb bike where weight is so important then you have a point, but for general riding then discs and Di2 wins all day long.
How exactly does stopping power equal more enjoyment? I can't imagine anyone cycles any slower due to their calipers not working as quickly as discs.@@tonywilson5468
@@tonywilson5468 I can lock my rim brakes, exceeding the CoF of the tires, at will; how would disk brakes provided greater "stopping power". You're confounding, for both brakes and shifting, reduced effort with increased efficiency. Someday I may develop arthritis; then I may consider disks and motorized shifting.
Of all mainstream road bike channels, I always love bike radars as they’re more sensible and down to earth (unlike the most mainstream one that promotes high price without fewling guilty). 👍
Some weight saving might make you faster, some are counterproductive such as super-thin carbon stems that are as stiff as a wet noodle or saddles you can't sit on because their edges are so sharp they feel like they're cutting your legs off while pedaling. And what purpose does a lightweight laced shoe serve when it takes you minutes to stop and re-tie them after the laces have come undone?
Campagnolo Power Torque cranksets come in full carbon and comparable in weight to modern Super Record cranksets. I ride a 10 speed Centaur on my 11 speed Centaur setup and they are 100% compatible. The pain is servicing the cranks which require proprietary tools to remove.
Pimp a pair of Zero Gavity (0G 05, the first and only really lightweight brake) with alloy screws (alloy brake bolt nuts) and short the brake pad holders as well asthe brake pads, so they come out at about 86gr front and 84 gr the rear one. A Campy Record 10speed rear derailleur comes down to 150gr by using alloy main bolts and a carbon plate for the derailleur cage. On the front derailleur, you can use M5 carbon screws, file off the thread and use them as carbon replacement for the steel bolts.
I've changed from 1750g wheels with 550g per tires to 1100g wheels with 450g each. The difference is crazy but I think I will get used to it quickly and it will feel less crazy unfortunately. Maybe I will upgrade to carbon cranks for another 350g less because I need shorter crankarms.
Taken all my brakes off and binned them, i cycle barefoot, use only tpu tubes filled with sealant, cut the full carbon saddle in half,............. job done massive weight loss! 😂😂😂😂😂
Some other (extreme??) weight saving tips that were not mentioned: lightweight thru-axles & expander plugs remove bar tape & hood rubber covers 1x-conversion
... I have a 2013 Domane 5.2 ... w/ 3xi10 Ultegra that currently weighs in at 16 lbs 5 ozs ... Yep ... Alloy Bontrager Race rims (alloy) ... Tubeless R2's that will be upgraded to R3's (when they wear out) for another 40g/tire ... spinning weight reduction is "key") Upgraded the seat recently to a full carbon that saved +200g's ... so you can "pitch" the new designs w/ heavy disc brakes and compact doubles that my legs HATE !!!! I tend to sit on the seat and spin up and get +7000 miles/chain ... (maybe more then +8000 miles) ... Note that I have a "Hybrid" Trek 8.6 DS for sloppy conditions/gravel/dirt. Until they make what I want ... my $$$$'s will stay in my pocket ...
More than* 8000* miles - Your comment could be much lighter-weight if you replaced the tons of unnecessary fullstops with commas and separate sentences with feathery single fullstops.
For Lightweight Meilenstein say "mile-en-stine". "Meilenstein" literally (in the literal sense of "literally", not in the usual social media sense) means "milestone" in English and has nothing to do with food as in "meal".
Meilenstein ! Pronunciation completely wrong ! It is pronounced like Milenstine, but with "st" like the "new way" - rather "unsophisticated" way in GB and USA, not the Oxford english !!
This video is cringe industry fluff 😆 Anyone that actually requires or would benefit whatsoever from such fractional weight saving will be given lightweight bikes by their team and sponsor....if that's not you, don't waste your money on anything other than a wheel upgrade...and perhaps consider getting a completely new bike for a more cost effective way to upgrade your entire groupset and componentry for a better quality ride. In reality if you stick an elite rider on your current stock "heavy" bike they'd still fly up the hill. Dropping this kind of money on weight reduction is ludicrous, may as well get yourself another nice bike , or try another discipline of riding
No, no, better drop that kind of money on a fully integrated aero electronic groupset disc brake bike. Sarcasm aside, no mater what "performance" criteria you take into account (weight, aero drag, rolling resistance, braking performance, etc.) you can shout out loud "leave it for the pros". The actual cringe industry fluff is that, after decades of telling us "lighter is better", and after decades of making all bikes (regardless of cost) lighter and lighter, now they claim "aero trumps weight" and "braking performance trumps weight" while in the same time talking about weight reduction upgrades. And not even most pros don't get to ride 6.8 kg bikes anymore (not that manufacturers actually care about what they really wanted to ride or not).
@@laszlozoltan5021Bike industry propaganda is that aero is better than lightweight. This video is the exact opposite of spreading industry propaganda 🤷♂️
I never understand what people have against other riders wanting to make their bikes lighter. What’s wrong with people who are super into bikes wanting to make it lightweight just for fun, or just to see how light you can get it? It’s no different to people upgrading their cars - makes sod all difference to everyday driving adding LEDs to the trim, or a set of large alloys, but people enjoy it. If you don’t want to do it, don’t. It’s really that simple.
@@rob-c. Do what you like mate, but large % of their viewership is customers looking for help to make informed decisions with their purchases. I made the comment on the basis this video doesn't point out the elephant in the room, that the whole weight reduction endeavour is largely pointless and horrendous value for money for the vast majority. Yet it's presented as a cool and worthwhile idea
If you're that desperate about an instant lightweight bike, just ride down any street in Gaza . . . instant Drillium! The downside is that by even losing the rider too, the bike can even get much lighter!
What upgrades have you made to your bike?
Jar of gypsy tears on handlebar🤪
Seatpost
All available from lightweight Supakaz bar tape to 1 single row per wheel of muc-off rim tape. Orca Aero sub -7Kg in the works.
got some campagnolo shamal carbon wheels fitted with p zero velo clinchers and ridenow tubes. my aluminium canyon is now 9240 grams ready to ride. with pedals, spares, cages, lights and whatnot.
Built it this way: Basso Venta rim brake, full Ultegra 8000 w/Dura Ace cassette and chain, Hunt wheels (1450gm), Pirelli P Zero Velo tires, TPU tubes, 3-T Team bar: 7.3kg/16# with the saddle du jour.
I kept the same bike and lost 15kg thanks to it, now it climbs much faster!
ah that one. yeah i bought a turbo trainer and am currently upgrading my power to weight ratio.
sticking to rim brakes and mechanical groupsets are by far the best weight and cash savings, translating into more weight savings
And what about stopping power and on bike enjoyment????? If it's a specific hill climb bike where weight is so important then you have a point, but for general riding then discs and Di2 wins all day long.
How exactly does stopping power equal more enjoyment? I can't imagine anyone cycles any slower due to their calipers not working as quickly as discs.@@tonywilson5468
Di2 yes.disc no mate!it doesnt wins anything except extra weight
@@tonywilson5468 I can lock my rim brakes, exceeding the CoF of the tires, at will; how would disk brakes provided greater "stopping power". You're confounding, for both brakes and shifting, reduced effort with increased efficiency. Someday I may develop arthritis; then I may consider disks and motorized shifting.
@@mikicastan As I said in my previous comment, what about stopping power and on bike enjoyment????
I have a challenge for you, Liam. Can you build a sub 6.8kg bike for under £1500? Would make for a great video!
Buy a used Supersix evo with rim brakes. Voila. New is imposible atm
I have changed for lighter tires and TPU inner tubes, carbon wheels, lighter saddle and carbon seatpost
I really appreciate that you showed options for a variety of price ranges.
Of all mainstream road bike channels, I always love bike radars as they’re more sensible and down to earth (unlike the most mainstream one that promotes high price without fewling guilty). 👍
Some weight saving might make you faster, some are counterproductive such as super-thin carbon stems that are as stiff as a wet noodle or saddles you can't sit on because their edges are so sharp they feel like they're cutting your legs off while pedaling. And what purpose does a lightweight laced shoe serve when it takes you minutes to stop and re-tie them after the laces have come undone?
Campagnolo Power Torque cranksets come in full carbon and comparable in weight to modern Super Record cranksets. I ride a 10 speed Centaur on my 11 speed Centaur setup and they are 100% compatible. The pain is servicing the cranks which require proprietary tools to remove.
Pimp a pair of Zero Gavity (0G 05, the first and only really lightweight brake) with alloy screws (alloy brake bolt nuts) and short the brake pad holders as well asthe brake pads, so they come out at about 86gr front and 84 gr the rear one. A Campy Record 10speed rear derailleur comes down to 150gr by using alloy main bolts and a carbon plate for the derailleur cage. On the front derailleur, you can use M5 carbon screws, file off the thread and use them as carbon replacement for the steel bolts.
I've upgraded every component on my bike other than the frameset, bringing it from 8.4kg down to 6.9kg
I've changed from 1750g wheels with 550g per tires to 1100g wheels with 450g each. The difference is crazy but I think I will get used to it quickly and it will feel less crazy unfortunately. Maybe I will upgrade to carbon cranks for another 350g less because I need shorter crankarms.
What wwheels do you run?
Riding purely for exercise? Don't worry about weight. In fact, add more and you won't have to ride as far to burn the same amount of calories 😅
Taken all my brakes off and binned them, i cycle barefoot, use only tpu tubes filled with sealant, cut the full carbon saddle in half,............. job done massive weight loss! 😂😂😂😂😂
Veloflex tires, TPU tubes, carbon rims. Just make sure to avoid even the slightest bit of debris.
Some other (extreme??) weight saving tips that were not mentioned:
lightweight thru-axles & expander plugs
remove bar tape & hood rubber covers
1x-conversion
Super Light with sealant --->> using track tyres on your bike, perhaps just for racing!
loool that Tail Light
what will make me faster carbon wheels or losing 10 kg
10kg
Most direct way: Lose as much weight as your bike weight. 18 pounds is the sweet spot. DONE ✔️ 👍
If I did that, my doctor would tell me to put it all back on again.
TPU tubes
... I have a 2013 Domane 5.2 ... w/ 3xi10 Ultegra that currently weighs in at 16 lbs 5 ozs ... Yep ... Alloy Bontrager Race rims (alloy) ... Tubeless R2's that will be upgraded to R3's (when they wear out) for another 40g/tire ... spinning weight reduction is "key") Upgraded the seat recently to a full carbon that saved +200g's ... so you can "pitch" the new designs w/ heavy disc brakes and compact doubles that my legs HATE !!!! I tend to sit on the seat and spin up and get +7000 miles/chain ... (maybe more then +8000 miles) ... Note that I have a "Hybrid" Trek 8.6 DS for sloppy conditions/gravel/dirt. Until they make what I want ... my $$$$'s will stay in my pocket ...
More than* 8000* miles - Your comment could be much lighter-weight if you replaced the tons of unnecessary fullstops with commas and separate sentences with feathery single fullstops.
9:10 ahaha good one!
The P1800 is not 1800, but rather 1600+ for the pair
For Lightweight Meilenstein say "mile-en-stine". "Meilenstein" literally (in the literal sense of "literally", not in the usual social media sense) means "milestone" in English and has nothing to do with food as in "meal".
#1 - Throw your disc brake bike in the ocean.
#2 - Get a rim brake frame.
better sell your disc brake bike to some gullible middle aged man in lycra, thus contributing to the reduction of landfill waste
Not the ocean, think of the turtles.
They are already screwed from the fishing industry....@@oldguyonabike36
Lost 13kg by avoiding sugar and processed foods. The bike now climbs much faster.
Weigh your clothes, shoes and thewater and spares you carry on your ride then think about what to change to save weight.
lighter pedals, xpedo m force 8 weight 220 grams, spd
Meilenstein ! Pronunciation completely wrong !
It is pronounced like Milenstine, but with "st" like the "new way" - rather "unsophisticated" way in GB and USA, not the Oxford english !!
lighter and aero wheels, gp5k's, tpu tubes, lighter saddle, lighter stem
still ridiing a 8.4kg aluminum disc brake bike
🤡
...take a dump...
ah, yes, the comedian
This video is cringe industry fluff 😆
Anyone that actually requires or would benefit whatsoever from such fractional weight saving will be given lightweight bikes by their team and sponsor....if that's not you, don't waste your money on anything other than a wheel upgrade...and perhaps consider getting a completely new bike for a more cost effective way to upgrade your entire groupset and componentry for a better quality ride.
In reality if you stick an elite rider on your current stock "heavy" bike they'd still fly up the hill. Dropping this kind of money on weight reduction is ludicrous, may as well get yourself another nice bike , or try another discipline of riding
No, no, better drop that kind of money on a fully integrated aero electronic groupset disc brake bike.
Sarcasm aside, no mater what "performance" criteria you take into account (weight, aero drag, rolling resistance, braking performance, etc.) you can shout out loud "leave it for the pros". The actual cringe industry fluff is that, after decades of telling us "lighter is better", and after decades of making all bikes (regardless of cost) lighter and lighter, now they claim "aero trumps weight" and "braking performance trumps weight" while in the same time talking about weight reduction upgrades. And not even most pros don't get to ride 6.8 kg bikes anymore (not that manufacturers actually care about what they really wanted to ride or not).
right. this channel is pushing bike industry propaganda - certainly not for we who actually work for a living. rather insulting. unsubscribing
@@laszlozoltan5021Bike industry propaganda is that aero is better than lightweight. This video is the exact opposite of spreading industry propaganda 🤷♂️
I never understand what people have against other riders wanting to make their bikes lighter. What’s wrong with people who are super into bikes wanting to make it lightweight just for fun, or just to see how light you can get it? It’s no different to people upgrading their cars - makes sod all difference to everyday driving adding LEDs to the trim, or a set of large alloys, but people enjoy it.
If you don’t want to do it, don’t. It’s really that simple.
@@rob-c. Do what you like mate, but large % of their viewership is customers looking for help to make informed decisions with their purchases. I made the comment on the basis this video doesn't point out the elephant in the room, that the whole weight reduction endeavour is largely pointless and horrendous value for money for the vast majority. Yet it's presented as a cool and worthwhile idea
The cheapest way to lose weight is go on a diet .
Only if you have weight to lose.
@@rob-c. MY thought exactly.
If you're that desperate about an instant lightweight bike, just ride down any street in Gaza . . . instant Drillium! The downside is that by even losing the rider too, the bike can even get much lighter!