That bluepoint 3/8 set is made by Williams. My local Williams dealer sells it for $162.50. They do all the warranty as well. It's about a 30min drive for me. Most of my tools came from this place. They sell Williams, Gearwrench, DeWalt, Milwaukee, Wright, and Proto. Love that place.
all williams taiwan is the same as bluepoint it is a much better deal i just got a set of 3/8 shallow metrics with ratchet 2 extensions and u joint for 5 bucks from blue point it is over 150 bucks
Much as I love Snap On tools, you cannot escape the fact that they are greedy. They know people will pay through the nose for the name and warranty. Prices of Snap On products in the UK are getting crazy.
The top shareholders are greedy. If Snap On went private like Cornwell, which is a family owned business, their tools would get much more affordable and their hardworking American workforce would likely still be better paid. Also, the regulatory environment for manufacturing in the US is absolutely horrendous, driving up prices. That’s about to change…
Bought a handful of different tools from Snap On in the UK and I've been consistently disappointed. Dirty, loose, poorly packaged tools at premium prices. PB Swiss / Wera / Knipex - all put Snap On to shame these days IMHO.
Bahco stuff is a good deal but they limit the Bahco range which is annoying Snapon and Bluepoint are overpriced. Simply too much markup and not worth the money Compare a Bluepoint kit to a Bahco kit and they're 2-3x the price for a blue box instead of an orange one
guaranteed both are made in Taiwan. That's where all of these small bit sets are made. Though being that the ratchet and sockets are chrome and not satin like most Taiwanese sets, I wouldn't rule out that it might even be Chinese made. Regardless, clearly a cash grab..
@@cafecybernz yeah, I said "similar" not "same" SnapOff is usually pretty good at hamstringing Bahco's range to target industrial trade applications but occasionally a gem slips thru eg the Bahco version of the Dual80, which has gone up in price since people cottoned-on
Agreed. I have the Snap On student discount, which gives me Bluepoint at about 50% off. I’ve bought a number of their tools including the popular hex/torx master set. Even at half price, it was mid 200s! Still it’s a nice set and Snap On doesn’t sell a comparable set. Other Bluepoint stuff I’ve gotten is typical yeah you’d expect, but mostly okay quality, comparable to Icon. What’s funny is the brand has gotten so expensive that you are quite literally better off paying for a semester of community college just to get the 1/2 discount! They give you 15k retail worth of tools you can buy, or roughly 7500 of actual money you can spend (I.e. you can buy 7500 worth of tools at half price).
Keep an eye on the magnet for that ratchet kit, it's only glued on. After buying two repair kits cause mine kept falling off I just leave it off, and install it every time I use it.
Got a knipex cobra xxl (560mm) for that oil filter wrench for around the same price that i use for that and it fits perfectly on last setting on a 3412 cat but the difference is i use that thing for so much more then only filters lol glad i got the space in the engine room
Snappy has really been trying to stick it to their customers the last 10 years... Some of the stuff i bought 15-20 years ago has almost tripled in price, thats not inflation its outright greed!
Or, has it been harder to manufacture in the US? Remember all the steel mills? How many USA mills are left? Are there any? The US needs more manufacturing
Snap-on tools have always been pricey. Back in the day I was selective in my Snap-on purchases and limited them to sockets and ratchets. I tended to buy more Mac and Matco. At this time Mac and Matco are right up there with Snap-on pricewise. A lot of Mac and Matco's offerings are now made overseas. In this day and age there are so many more options for decent tools at relatively affordable prices than we had 25 years ago.
I was never really a fan of harbor freight, but their tools are better quality than blueprint. I got a set of icon 3/8" sockets for Christmas, they remind me of the USA craftsman sockets. That's a win!!
In Europe i just by Facom now....got a load of Snap on tools from when i lived in the Uk...looked recently at prices its insanity....roll cab i brought for maybe 1500 pounds in Uk sterling....now is 4.5k almost....absolutely bombed out of their minds😂😂😂
I have a Bahco 1/4 drive socket set in the same case, and they are actually quite strong....mine has survived a couple of falls and has not broken....yet.
Some of us do and I’m willing to bet snap on will too when they become the new craftsman. The snap on driver by me is giving us problems warranting tools now. I’ll continue to buy proto or knipex
i have a craftsman oil filter wrench like that one, i would absolutely buy it again. that blue point is small . the craftsman is barely big enough to do what a certain combine oil filter. i love it, one of my best purchases. my gripe with socket sets. i know they are going to bend me over. would it be to bad to throw in a decent plastic case, with real hinges. my original craftsman case is held together with duct tape hinges and a wood clamp. if i'm going to dump $300 just on a set of 3/8sockets. it needs to have all your sae and metric upto 3/4 inch. i dont work out of a steel toolbox. i work out of a socket set and have a small metal tote, the size of a loaf of bread. craftsman used to do it right. if they would go back to the old style. i would pay more. i'm guessing i have about a 85 piece 6pt set. 38 ratchet with a 1/4 inch adapter and nut driver. it was the perfect set. snapon needs to steal the idea . all the sockets and nothing missing. if i needed a deepwell. i can go back and buy a specialized set
I wasn't really paying attention when the video started, and I honestly thought that the 176 buck price tag applied to the socket set on the left. But for that little bit set? Pffft.
I have the Mac SBR39SB 39 piece. Very satisfied. No extension or sockets, but... I already have those. Too many. If you're going to pay tool truck prices, why not get a tool truck tool?
Wondering if your MAC BW8SB ratchet (part of your SBR39SB 39 piece kit) is the same as the Blue Point BLPBTW6 shown in this video, just with a different stamping on it.
I mostly stopped shopping on the trucks during the 2020-2021 shortage. Im not paying a premium for hand tools i have to wait a month to warranty. Theres too many quality brands out there now. Its not 1995. We dont have to chose between craftsman and snap on.
I get that youre paying for the service and truck and the fact that you can finance tools and such and i expect things to cost more than just off the internet but their prices have gotten out of control
I absolutely live and die by those oil filter pliers, however I didnt know that Lisle manufactures that actual product and sells them for $25 on Amazon. I ordered a blue point seal puller as I saw it for $30, and a coworker has one that built well and made in USA. Once I got it I realized they changed suppliers and now its just the Lisle seal puller you can get for under $15. It seems like Snap On sources BluePoint tools from other manufacturers, laser etches their name or changes the color then marks up the price routinely 3x. I see very little value in the Blue Point line unfortunately
Blue Point was always the lower cost alternative on the truck. Kind of a better way for starting techs to build up their tool sets. I can't see paying that much in today's market. Other brands, like the Wera, are much better of a value purchase.
Snap on is going to become craftsman unless they fix their sales strategy. I just had to remind my snap on truck that their aluminum tape measures still had the snap on logo on it meaning their warranty still applies to it regardless of who makes it for them. They gave me a plastic tape measure now and after using twice it’s garbage too. Flimsy tape that bends and breaks at around 7’. It’s hard to control the tape at 4’. Not impressed
Blue point are Taiwan tools Icon are Taiwan tools The only reason Blue Point are looked upon as high value is simply because it is purchased off of a certain truck; though Carlyle and Icon are far superior across their entire respective lines of hand tools.
I like your channel and I understand why you would complain about a $40 bit set being $176. What I don't understand (since your actually not a tool shill) is why you continually buy overpriced stuff like this, including most of the Snap On you show us, pretty much EVERY WEEK.
I have sold my tool truck tools and replace everything from harbor freight no more dealings with the trucks technicians are not defined by the tools but the knowledge of how to use the tools I've had my shop since my grandfather retired and recently decided to boycott all tool trucks harbor freight has the same lifetime warranty without the hassle of trying to warranty tools from the trucks
Unless you're wealthy or a professional mechanic, Snapon and Bluepoint aren't interested in you as a customer. Snapon is trashing the Williams name. They buy companies that make great stuff, they don't really invent any longer. They get less and less accessible each year. Snapon doesn't care so why give a damn about them?
That bluepoint 3/8 set is made by Williams. My local Williams dealer sells it for $162.50. They do all the warranty as well. It's about a 30min drive for me. Most of my tools came from this place. They sell Williams, Gearwrench, DeWalt, Milwaukee, Wright, and Proto. Love that place.
Over priced...
@@The-Homecook-0000 dang, you told him! It's his money to spend. What's it to you?
all williams taiwan is the same as bluepoint it is a much better deal i just got a set of 3/8 shallow metrics with ratchet 2 extensions and u joint for 5 bucks from blue point it is over 150 bucks
Much as I love Snap On tools, you cannot escape the fact that they are greedy. They know people will pay through the nose for the name and warranty. Prices of Snap On products in the UK are getting crazy.
The top shareholders are greedy. If Snap On went private like Cornwell, which is a family owned business, their tools would get much more affordable and their hardworking American workforce would likely still be better paid.
Also, the regulatory environment for manufacturing in the US is absolutely horrendous, driving up prices. That’s about to change…
It’s the ability to get tools and pay $50 bucks a week for them also ….
Bought a handful of different tools from Snap On in the UK and I've been consistently disappointed. Dirty, loose, poorly packaged tools at premium prices. PB Swiss / Wera / Knipex - all put Snap On to shame these days IMHO.
It’s not greed. It’s just good steel and expensive to make and sell.
@@Goliad_Respector Just somehow not as expensive for anyone else to make and sell it...
That Bluepoint bit ratchet case is the same as a similar Bahco set, except the case is blue instead of Bahco orange.
That was my first thought too. The Bahco set would be about £30!
Its the cool case that says Bluepoint on it. Makes it feel better after spending
Looks like it's from the shared Bahco/Bluepoint range judging by the case
There's a similar Bahco set
Bahco stuff is a good deal but they limit the Bahco range which is annoying
Snapon and Bluepoint are overpriced. Simply too much markup and not worth the money
Compare a Bluepoint kit to a Bahco kit and they're 2-3x the price for a blue box instead of an orange one
Agreed, it does look like a Bahco case.
guaranteed both are made in Taiwan. That's where all of these small bit sets are made. Though being that the ratchet and sockets are chrome and not satin like most Taiwanese sets, I wouldn't rule out that it might even be Chinese made. Regardless, clearly a cash grab..
Not the same at all: the tool in the Bahco 2058/S26 kit only has one ratchet at one end and is much shorter.
@@cafecybernz yeah, I said "similar" not "same"
SnapOff is usually pretty good at hamstringing Bahco's range to target industrial trade applications but occasionally a gem slips thru
eg the Bahco version of the Dual80, which has gone up in price since people cottoned-on
that bluepoint 3/8 set for over 300 you can get from Williams the exact same for 201
Agreed. I have the Snap On student discount, which gives me Bluepoint at about 50% off. I’ve bought a number of their tools including the popular hex/torx master set. Even at half price, it was mid 200s! Still it’s a nice set and Snap On doesn’t sell a comparable set. Other Bluepoint stuff I’ve gotten is typical yeah you’d expect, but mostly okay quality, comparable to Icon. What’s funny is the brand has gotten so expensive that you are quite literally better off paying for a semester of community college just to get the 1/2 discount! They give you 15k retail worth of tools you can buy, or roughly 7500 of actual money you can spend (I.e. you can buy 7500 worth of tools at half price).
For someone entering automotive, that would be a good start to get that very high quality. They've always been regarded as top tier for auto.
Keep an eye on the magnet for that ratchet kit, it's only glued on. After buying two repair kits cause mine kept falling off I just leave it off, and install it every time I use it.
Might as well buy Snap On at that price
Got a knipex cobra xxl (560mm) for that oil filter wrench for around the same price that i use for that and it fits perfectly on last setting on a 3412 cat but the difference is i use that thing for so much more then only filters lol
glad i got the space in the engine room
Snappy has really been trying to stick it to their customers the last 10 years... Some of the stuff i bought 15-20 years ago has almost tripled in price, thats not inflation its outright greed!
Or, has it been harder to manufacture in the US?
Remember all the steel mills? How many USA mills are left? Are there any?
The US needs more manufacturing
Snap-on tools have always been pricey. Back in the day I was selective in my Snap-on purchases and limited them to sockets and ratchets. I tended to buy more Mac and Matco. At this time Mac and Matco are right up there with Snap-on pricewise. A lot of Mac and Matco's offerings are now made overseas. In this day and age there are so many more options for decent tools at relatively affordable prices than we had 25 years ago.
it's an amazing little set, but if I couldn't get it as a student with a discount, maybe I would not have gotten it
Snap On is not a tool company. It is a finance company in a step van . Figure it out .
I was never really a fan of harbor freight, but their tools are better quality than blueprint. I got a set of icon 3/8" sockets for Christmas, they remind me of the USA craftsman sockets. That's a win!!
The icon but set is solid..
Comparing harbor freight to USA Craftsman? That's wild
In Europe i just by Facom now....got a load of Snap on tools from when i lived in the Uk...looked recently at prices its insanity....roll cab i brought for maybe 1500 pounds in Uk sterling....now is 4.5k almost....absolutely bombed out of their minds😂😂😂
The Blue Point set looks very cheap especially the case, I'm sure if you drop it, it will break. Thanks for sharing Doc
I have a Bahco 1/4 drive socket set in the same case, and they are actually quite strong....mine has survived a couple of falls and has not broken....yet.
Corporate greed is something people still dont understand.
Some of us do and I’m willing to bet snap on will too when they become the new craftsman. The snap on driver by me is giving us problems warranting tools now. I’ll continue to buy proto or knipex
i have a craftsman oil filter wrench like that one, i would absolutely buy it again. that blue point is small . the craftsman is barely big enough to do what a certain combine oil filter. i love it, one of my best purchases. my gripe with socket sets. i know they are going to bend me over. would it be to bad to throw in a decent plastic case, with real hinges. my original craftsman case is held together with duct tape hinges and a wood clamp. if i'm going to dump $300 just on a set of 3/8sockets. it needs to have all your sae and metric upto 3/4 inch. i dont work out of a steel toolbox. i work out of a socket set and have a small metal tote, the size of a loaf of bread. craftsman used to do it right. if they would go back to the old style. i would pay more. i'm guessing i have about a 85 piece 6pt set. 38 ratchet with a 1/4 inch adapter and nut driver. it was the perfect set. snapon needs to steal the idea . all the sockets and nothing missing. if i needed a deepwell. i can go back and buy a specialized set
"SNAP-ON TOOLS SINCE 1920"
The ratchet from Williams is only 29.31 on amazon. That’s leaves plenty of money for a were bit set and your are still saving $70 over the blue point
There is absolutely no way any Chinese or Taiwanese tools are worth the prices of American made tools off of a tool truck.
I wasn't really paying attention when the video started, and I honestly thought that the 176 buck price tag applied to the socket set on the left. But for that little bit set? Pffft.
My snap on guy knows better than to even suggest blue point to me. I buy snap on hand tools but that’s about it
I have the Mac SBR39SB 39 piece. Very satisfied. No extension or sockets, but... I already have those. Too many.
If you're going to pay tool truck prices, why not get a tool truck tool?
Wondering if your MAC BW8SB ratchet (part of your SBR39SB 39 piece kit) is the same as the Blue Point BLPBTW6 shown in this video, just with a different stamping on it.
@@cafecybernz Nah, it's the VIM HBR8.
I mostly stopped shopping on the trucks during the 2020-2021 shortage. Im not paying a premium for hand tools i have to wait a month to warranty. Theres too many quality brands out there now. Its not 1995. We dont have to chose between craftsman and snap on.
I get that youre paying for the service and truck and the fact that you can finance tools and such and i expect things to cost more than just off the internet but their prices have gotten out of control
I absolutely live and die by those oil filter pliers, however I didnt know that Lisle manufactures that actual product and sells them for $25 on Amazon. I ordered a blue point seal puller as I saw it for $30, and a coworker has one that built well and made in USA. Once I got it I realized they changed suppliers and now its just the Lisle seal puller you can get for under $15. It seems like Snap On sources BluePoint tools from other manufacturers, laser etches their name or changes the color then marks up the price routinely 3x. I see very little value in the Blue Point line unfortunately
Blue Point was always the lower cost alternative on the truck. Kind of a better way for starting techs to build up their tool sets. I can't see paying that much in today's market. Other brands, like the Wera, are much better of a value purchase.
That looks like a crappier version of a gear wrench kit I got that was $19
Wonder how many people are complaining about other high end product pricing?
Snap on is going to become craftsman unless they fix their sales strategy. I just had to remind my snap on truck that their aluminum tape measures still had the snap on logo on it meaning their warranty still applies to it regardless of who makes it for them. They gave me a plastic tape measure now and after using twice it’s garbage too. Flimsy tape that bends and breaks at around 7’. It’s hard to control the tape at 4’. Not impressed
did you buy it just to show us cause I would have just believed you, as long as people pay why would they change the price?
Yeah he’s obviously got the money without the need, waste of good tools.
Blue point are Taiwan tools
Icon are Taiwan tools
The only reason Blue Point are looked upon as high value is simply because it is purchased off of a certain truck; though Carlyle and Icon are far superior across their entire respective lines of hand tools.
I like your channel and I understand why you would complain about a $40 bit set being $176. What I don't understand (since your actually not a tool shill) is why you continually buy overpriced stuff like this, including most of the Snap On you show us, pretty much EVERY WEEK.
I have sold my tool truck tools and replace everything from harbor freight no more dealings with the trucks technicians are not defined by the tools but the knowledge of how to use the tools I've had my shop since my grandfather retired and recently decided to boycott all tool trucks harbor freight has the same lifetime warranty without the hassle of trying to warranty tools from the trucks
I don't care to make the truck payment for the snap-on guy. Overpriced by a magnitude of 2.....
Always been pricey
I'll go with the ICON every time
Correct
Unless you're wealthy or a professional mechanic, Snapon and Bluepoint aren't interested in you as a customer. Snapon is trashing the Williams name. They buy companies that make great stuff, they don't really invent any longer. They get less and less accessible each year. Snapon doesn't care so why give a damn about them?
Blue point wasn't worth it before most of their products are pretty low quality and from Taiwan or China there's better products for half the price
You just recently said that snap on was not that expensive and comparable to other brands lmao
That blue point kid is a rip off...Get the icon set for 32 with discount...and go buy some ratchet bits..