Why Joey Harrington Failed to Live Up to Expectations as #3 Pick in ‘02 Draft | The Rich Eisen Show

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  • Former NFL QB Joey Harrington tells Rich Eisen Show guest host Ryan Leaf why he couldn’t live up to the expectations of being the 3rd overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft..
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  • @jacobtrujillo9469
    @jacobtrujillo9469 2 роки тому +80

    Ryan Leaf should have his own show. Hope it happens. Thoroughly enjoy these discussions.

    • @petez4608
      @petez4608 2 роки тому +1

      Completely agree. Smart guy, good conversationalist and very unique perspective.

    • @Vjl5280
      @Vjl5280 2 роки тому

      Absolutely

    • @EnjoySackLunch
      @EnjoySackLunch 2 роки тому

      Why? He’s trash

    • @dagreenflamingo105
      @dagreenflamingo105 2 роки тому

      Ya you could lead him to the show with a trail of pills everyday

    • @Vjl5280
      @Vjl5280 2 роки тому +4

      @@dagreenflamingo105 he kicked that habit. Give the guy his props.

  • @ay-ay-ronl6585
    @ay-ay-ronl6585 2 роки тому +23

    Hated Ryan for the longest time, but loved his comeback story. I hope it continues.

  • @nsn5564
    @nsn5564 2 роки тому +28

    Joey was an exemplary, brilliant thrilling qb for the Ducks. Captain Comeback. I really was heartbroken when he wasn't able to have greater success in the NFL.

    • @eugeneNov89
      @eugeneNov89 2 роки тому +5

      As a true lions fan. It was never Joey's fault. The organization never put him in the right spot to succeed

    • @earthsucks9555
      @earthsucks9555 2 роки тому +6

      @@eugeneNov89
      Oh stop it
      He wasn’t even mediocre in Detroit
      Not saying he was surrounded by greatness, but many QB’s have done much more with less. Dude was a straight up bust. Didn’t do anything with ATL or Saints either. Weak arm, poor decision maker, not mobile.
      He did have awful coaching in Detroit

    • @jonmcclane7433
      @jonmcclane7433 2 роки тому

      @@earthsucks9555 💯

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому +4

      @@earthsucks9555 I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players.

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky Рік тому +2

      I remember thinking he was far and away the best QB in that draft. It wasn’t all his fault. Same with David Carr.

  • @RJ-qs6nm
    @RJ-qs6nm 2 роки тому +51

    Making it to the NFL is amazing regardless of how your career turns out. It's such a slim chance to make it at all

  • @ralphrodriguez4757
    @ralphrodriguez4757 2 роки тому +27

    What a humble conversation. We can learn from this. It applies in what we do everyday

  • @erichorner8336
    @erichorner8336 2 роки тому +13

    I love the interviews like this way more than the interviews with people who excelled in the NFL (Rodgers + McAfee aside). There is so much more to learn and appreciate. Thanks! Keep them coming!

  • @chancemack
    @chancemack 2 роки тому +10

    Joey Harrington was that dude in college.

  • @jessekauffman3336
    @jessekauffman3336 2 роки тому +24

    This is great 2 high draft picks being brutally honest

  • @Lebron1279
    @Lebron1279 2 роки тому +6

    Puts Brady's first year in the league, with zero expectations, into perspective. Of course, what Tom did with the prep time is breathtaking, but he had the space to to it.

  • @calli5721
    @calli5721 2 роки тому +14

    I still say that joy Harrington would have been good if the coach believed in him and we had an offensive line that could have protected him he had the quickest release out of almost any quarterback I've ever seen

    • @justins.7316
      @justins.7316 2 роки тому

      Truth

    • @elbowgang9715
      @elbowgang9715 Рік тому

      He started for the Falcons and was horrible. Excuses

    • @phillyfan-182
      @phillyfan-182 4 місяці тому

      I agree

    • @cjcurtis8944
      @cjcurtis8944 2 місяці тому

      @@elbowgang9715 that’s because he was broken by that point. It’s hard to be good when your confidence is gone and you’ve been lambasted and ruined. One of the keys to success is fit within a team and scheme. Joey never had a chance. No, he wasn’t going to be a great top shelf qb most likely, but he’d have been solid in the right situation from the beginning.

  • @thadude765
    @thadude765 2 роки тому +5

    Glad these two guys can look back at their experiences positively

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn 2 роки тому +12

    Joey was with the Lions and it was clear that ridiculous aspirations for him in a system that never adapted to his talents. He was with a team that did not utilize his talents well. Wrong team. Wrong place. Wrong time.

    • @thomasnorris3257
      @thomasnorris3257 2 роки тому +1

      Then played for Nick Saban and still was a bum

    • @timorean320
      @timorean320 2 роки тому

      Sucking dont help either.

  • @OhThankKevin
    @OhThankKevin 2 роки тому +67

    Harrington like many other QBs who never hit are victims of instability.
    2002 HC Marty Mortenweig OC Maurice Carthon
    2003-04 new HC Steve Marinucci new OC Sherman Lewis
    05 new OC Ted Tollner … week 11 Marinucci fired Tollner demoted to TE coach. new OC Greg Olsen
    06 new HC Rod Marinelli OC Mike Martz

    • @thomasnorris3257
      @thomasnorris3257 2 роки тому +2

      No, Saben couldnt even make him winner

    • @creativereality4212
      @creativereality4212 2 роки тому +7

      @@thomasnorris3257 Saben is a crappy pro coach. Long line Of Uber successful college coaches who can’t get it done in the NFL. We just saw urban Meyer go through the same experience. Chip Kelly is another one.

    • @Bambino_60
      @Bambino_60 2 роки тому +2

      He played for the Saints and the Falcons too

    • @nsn5564
      @nsn5564 2 роки тому +2

      Please don't put Chip Kelly in that crowd. Also, it's ridiculous to give a college coach only 1-2 years to succeed, eso when they've been handed a dreadful team. Most NFL head coaching legends have many bad years.

    • @Vic-Vega
      @Vic-Vega 2 роки тому

      @@nsn5564 Chip Kelly was the worst of any of 'em.

  • @distantandvague
    @distantandvague Рік тому +1

    That Joey Harrington smile still is so unsettling.

  • @marshallheadchief8744
    @marshallheadchief8744 2 роки тому +3

    GIVE LEAF HIS OWN SHOW!

  • @autzenduck989
    @autzenduck989 Рік тому

    That was a great interview - Love Joey - Loving Leaf the more i watch him now.

  • @brandonray8814
    @brandonray8814 2 роки тому +3

    Ryan Leaf is a bright guy! Always enjoy his appearances

  • @antoniowashington6148
    @antoniowashington6148 5 місяців тому

    This is nice to see Ryan Leaf on a different side being himself as a future talk show analyst instead of being on the spotlight hype where we all know that fame and fortune will tear an athlete apart. I'm bless that Ryan Leaf is being himself. Great interview with Joey Harrington.

  • @jetsamperes5762
    @jetsamperes5762 2 роки тому +4

    All the graphics say "Former NFL Quarterback", "Former Oregon Ducks Quarterback" "3rd Overall Pick" but never say 'Detroit Lions". Why? Because they didn't want to answer their own question of 'Why Joey Harrington Failed to Live up to Expectations'. This was the Matt Millen era - the worst era of the franchise and that is saying A LOT.

  • @33TimberWolf
    @33TimberWolf 2 роки тому +22

    Main reasons: Matt Millen and Matt Millen… complete futility when your GM refuses to even come to Michigan, let alone be in Detroit. Millen tried running thing’s from his farm via telephone calls.

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 2 роки тому +3

      I hear Matt's still trying to convince the Lions to draft more first round WRs.

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      @@JK-br1mu I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players. And I blame Matt Millen.

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 2 роки тому

      @@Younima4 well he definitely believed in elite wide receivers, I give him that

  • @mikeschmidt4800
    @mikeschmidt4800 2 роки тому +5

    I'd rather be an NFL bust than having played semi pro ball like I did. A bust doesn't sound so bad.

  • @markreierstad2418
    @markreierstad2418 2 роки тому +5

    You could have been Montana, Brady, Marino, Elway, or just about any other HOF QB and you would've failed with that team. The same goes for the coach. Matt Millen's legacy...

  • @robertwicker2303
    @robertwicker2303 2 роки тому +1

    Good interview haven't heard Joey speak since he left the lions

  • @Gustarx
    @Gustarx 2 роки тому +10

    Name I haven't heard in a while. Getting drafted to the lions, loads of instability. He never had a chance

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players.

    • @Robert-um7tj
      @Robert-um7tj 3 місяці тому

      Trust me, Oregon fans never stop mentioning him. He calls in to the Oregon sports show every Friday and has some pretty cool stories.

  • @mrrdwileyjr
    @mrrdwileyjr 2 роки тому +10

    Detroit's offensive line was notoriously bad. I doubt even Joey remembers how many times he got hit. Thing is, you get hit enough times, you expect to get hit. You could see it in the way he played, and Tony Siragussa called him weak for it, but he honestly endured more than any 'successful' QB ever did.

    • @derektorres9275
      @derektorres9275 2 роки тому

      In 2002-2003 the Lions offensive line was actually pretty good. They gave up the fewest sacks those 2 seasons

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому +2

      @@derektorres9275 it's either the team surrounding Joey, or Joey himself. I'm willing but hesitant to say it was almost all Joey's fault. But also Matt Millens for not benching Joey his rookie year.

  • @clintmoses957
    @clintmoses957 2 роки тому +4

    Joey”5 picks”Harrington a beavers legend

    • @dwgwnr1969
      @dwgwnr1969 2 роки тому +1

      Very underrated comment..go beavs!!

  • @theman1412
    @theman1412 2 роки тому +2

    4:20, The Red Wings won a Stanley Cup a few months later 😀

  • @brooksorlando4881
    @brooksorlando4881 6 місяців тому

    I really wanted him to work. Loved him in college, really nice guy..some of it was bad luck going to Detroit. He wasn't overly gifted athletically either (like Stafford) to overcome it

  • @brentstack3267
    @brentstack3267 2 роки тому

    5:10 did someone burp? Haha

  • @7mileawesumdre539
    @7mileawesumdre539 2 роки тому +3

    Joey was a horrible quarterback for my Lions. It wasn't all his fault but he didn't help matters.

  • @patrickburk5668
    @patrickburk5668 2 роки тому +6

    Casual fans think players don’t make it because their “trash”. While that is true in some cases. Guys getting lazy, content, losing their competitive fire etc. I feel pretty strongly that most failures in the nfl are due to bad coaching. Imagine where jimmy gorropollo would be right now if Kyle shannahan made him drop back 40x a game and made him run quarterback run plays. Most coaches are extremely impatient and do not know how to use their players strengths. They try to force a square into the triangle slot and then blame the square for not fitting. It’s honestly sad.

    • @bbryant9455
      @bbryant9455 2 роки тому

      Personally I think that's Steve mariucci. Idk if it's in this interview because I didn't watch it all but Harrington said a few years ago that mariucci told him you can't change our game plan because "that's not how Bill Walsh did it" WTF

    • @phuckfumassters
      @phuckfumassters 2 роки тому

      Kyle Shanahan is not a good coach and Jimmy Gorropollo is a better QB than his results. If the 49ers had a competant coach in the Gorropollo era they would have won another SB already

  • @fredricclack7137
    @fredricclack7137 2 роки тому

    Now 👁️ "feel" 4 Joey 🦁

  • @93redcamaroz28
    @93redcamaroz28 2 роки тому +1

    Harrington and Batch I think would have been much better had they gone to a team with some sense.

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      He was a bust. Just stop.

    • @93redcamaroz28
      @93redcamaroz28 2 роки тому +1

      @@Younima4 the lions are a bust. Ruining careers for 60 years

  • @lions208436
    @lions208436 2 роки тому +1

    That year ended up being a bust in terms of QBs being drafted in 2002.

  • @TheTitofan1
    @TheTitofan1 2 роки тому

    Joey Harrington vs David carr

  • @halfblooddutchprince
    @halfblooddutchprince 2 роки тому +1

    Matt Millen. There is your reason

  • @johnjarvis2168
    @johnjarvis2168 2 роки тому +1

    Why Joey and not Joe? Joe sounds tougher.

  • @footclann0043
    @footclann0043 2 роки тому +2

    Ryan Leaf > Rich Eisen

  • @cyrub2132
    @cyrub2132 2 роки тому +1

    He went to the damn Lions. Joey had no chance.

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      Joey never had a chance to begin with. Shitty qb and not NFL ready.

  • @randystache78
    @randystache78 9 місяців тому

    His college career pass percentage was 54%. Not an accurate quarterback. He had a decent college career. That’s why I was concerned as a lions fan that we were drafting a qb again 4 years later.

  • @SixTenVisuals
    @SixTenVisuals 2 роки тому +2

    Isn't it time to call yourself Joe now? You're a very grown man.

  • @thelonefirman
    @thelonefirman 4 місяці тому

    Yup.

  • @walterbrown9651
    @walterbrown9651 2 роки тому +4

    Joey can play the Hell out of a piano! Detroit is what happened to Joey.

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому +1

      Joey was a bust. Just stop pin pointing the blame.

  • @williammacdonald9271
    @williammacdonald9271 2 роки тому +10

    Can’t imagine how many careers were ruined by Detroit lions foolishness

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому +2

      Oh can you not. "Wasted careers", we never had enough talent to go to the promise land because we always ended up losing in the wildcard.

  • @ABruhMan
    @ABruhMan Рік тому

    I don’t blame him for being bad in Detroit! The ford family didn’t know how to build a team. He was set up to fail

  • @eaglefang8656
    @eaglefang8656 2 роки тому

    Busty Bust interviewing another Busty Bust...

  • @jonmcclane7433
    @jonmcclane7433 2 роки тому +1

    He still has the same Great Clips haircut

    • @AcidWords1
      @AcidWords1 Рік тому

      Joey "Great Clips" Harrington. Hahaha

  • @ciccone39
    @ciccone39 11 місяців тому

    He got drafted by the Lions. That’s why he faulted. Had he been drafted by any team that actually tries to build a winner he most likely would’ve done better.

  • @Benjamin-gn5pb
    @Benjamin-gn5pb 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve got nothing personal against the guy - he seems like a nice guy. And maybe it was the gameplan. But oh my god, sooo many check downs. Just little 3 yard passes to the running back. All the time. I don’t care what excuses he makes. He was a really bad NFL quarterback.

  • @anthonydileonardo8156
    @anthonydileonardo8156 2 роки тому +1

    Joey, like David Carr, were drafted by shitty teams and suffered endless trial by fire

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      David Carr was actually good. Joey wasn't. So stop.

    • @anthonydileonardo8156
      @anthonydileonardo8156 2 роки тому

      @@Younima4 I knocked the teams, not the players....

  • @dickriggles942
    @dickriggles942 6 місяців тому

    I heard he was a snob. Looking at his social media, it becomes even more clear.

  • @slackerman4161
    @slackerman4161 2 роки тому +1

    This is the real world equivalent of uncle Rico taking about how he could of gone pro

  • @ralphpal
    @ralphpal 2 роки тому

    I thought he would be good

  • @Vjl5280
    @Vjl5280 2 роки тому

    Gold

  • @timewithoutconsequence4611
    @timewithoutconsequence4611 2 роки тому

    I love these comments. How’s your millions? That’s right, your alarm clock is set in the morning.

  • @garriethsmith8362
    @garriethsmith8362 2 роки тому

    I used to like Joey

  • @sayten5512
    @sayten5512 2 роки тому

    Lol

  • @smittyj383
    @smittyj383 Рік тому

    He was drafted by my lions that’s why he failed !! We ruined stafford, sanders, and megatron

  • @retrorampage9015
    @retrorampage9015 2 місяці тому

    he was scared the whole time he played in the nfl.
    happy nervous feet.

  • @LittleBenjaminNeocon183
    @LittleBenjaminNeocon183 2 роки тому

    That's an easy one. He got drafted by the Lions. End of story.

  • @johanfretzen1852
    @johanfretzen1852 2 роки тому +3

    he never made it cause he lived in taylor mi while playing for the lions. it was a janky golf course that came with the neighborhood too. good ole taylor-tucky "we have alot, but not that much"

    • @Michael-dy7zp
      @Michael-dy7zp 2 роки тому +8

      He never made it because he had only half the talent Matt Stafford had and played for a dysfunctional Lions team.

    • @qualityesports7802
      @qualityesports7802 2 роки тому

      Wouldn't it make sense to live in Taylor? Since it's right next to all the Lions facilities in Allen Park? Sorry maybe I'm not getting the joke...

    • @johanfretzen1852
      @johanfretzen1852 2 роки тому

      @@Michael-dy7zp that as well

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      @@Michael-dy7zp I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players.

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 2 роки тому +2

    How naive can you be? I am much older than Joey, and stopped playing QB in H.S. and then only 2nd string but I knew just from being alive that the NFL for high draft pick QB's is a zero tolerance environment...they are Professionals playing for their livelihood as are the coaches, so they aren't going to wet nurse a rookie QB.

  • @Rob-dp3vr
    @Rob-dp3vr 2 роки тому +2

    Ol' Noodle Arm

  • @freedomworks3976
    @freedomworks3976 2 роки тому +1

    Buy a mansion .... then go play golf .... ya you will become a success for sure

  • @nicholaswoods4055
    @nicholaswoods4055 2 роки тому

    Joey ballgame

  • @Racso88e
    @Racso88e 7 місяців тому

    Yea, yea the organization was terrible. But he alsot wasnt very good and abysmally inaccurate.

  • @SteveMSummers
    @SteveMSummers 2 роки тому +4

    Takes one to know one huh

    • @gilbert8162
      @gilbert8162 2 роки тому +7

      How was your nfl career?

    • @Younima4
      @Younima4 2 роки тому

      @@gilbert8162 you are so mad

  • @matthewminor4630
    @matthewminor4630 Рік тому

    Losers lose. Ducks suck.

  • @robbieryan3841
    @robbieryan3841 2 роки тому

    Back to Back busts

  • @foundscott9852
    @foundscott9852 2 роки тому +2

    He was horrible. Football Ops in Detroit was even worse.

  • @Boshyballs
    @Boshyballs 2 роки тому

    Can I please have the last 8 mins of my life back?

  • @markreed1623
    @markreed1623 2 роки тому +2

    From a Lions fan...Harrington was pure TRASH!!!

  • @josephvanhorn5347
    @josephvanhorn5347 2 роки тому +4

    Just a couple of busts chopping it up.

    • @Quinn37
      @Quinn37 2 роки тому +26

      How did your NFL career work out?

    • @sayten5512
      @sayten5512 2 роки тому +2

      @@Quinn37 how did your college career pan out

    • @Quinn37
      @Quinn37 2 роки тому +2

      @@sayten5512 Relevance?

    • @gilbert8162
      @gilbert8162 2 роки тому

      Too bad you never were good enough at anything to make it to bust.

    • @josephvanhorn5347
      @josephvanhorn5347 2 роки тому +1

      @@Quinn37 How is your response relevant?

  • @BASHirNimry
    @BASHirNimry 2 роки тому

    He still crying about this?

    • @gilbert8162
      @gilbert8162 2 роки тому +10

      Sounds like you are.

    • @nsn5564
      @nsn5564 2 роки тому +3

      What I hear is a thoughtful and honest conversation shedding insight into something rarely discussed. Seems like you're the toxic whiner.

    • @Vic-Vega
      @Vic-Vega 2 роки тому +2

      @@nsn5564 "Shedding" insight? 😅
      Learn to write, buddy.

    • @Warden033
      @Warden033 2 роки тому

      Literally he first interview in 15 years

    • @Vic-Vega
      @Vic-Vega 2 роки тому +1

      @@Warden033 Here we go again with numbskull Millennials who don't know the literal meaning of "literally."
      How utterly pathetic.