Why Joey Harrington Failed to Live Up to Expectations as #3 Pick in ‘02 Draft | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2022
- Former NFL QB Joey Harrington tells Rich Eisen Show guest host Ryan Leaf why he couldn’t live up to the expectations of being the 3rd overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft..
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Ryan Leaf should have his own show. Hope it happens. Thoroughly enjoy these discussions.
Completely agree. Smart guy, good conversationalist and very unique perspective.
Absolutely
Why? He’s trash
Ya you could lead him to the show with a trail of pills everyday
@@dagreenflamingo105 he kicked that habit. Give the guy his props.
Hated Ryan for the longest time, but loved his comeback story. I hope it continues.
Joey was an exemplary, brilliant thrilling qb for the Ducks. Captain Comeback. I really was heartbroken when he wasn't able to have greater success in the NFL.
As a true lions fan. It was never Joey's fault. The organization never put him in the right spot to succeed
@@eugeneNov89
Oh stop it
He wasn’t even mediocre in Detroit
Not saying he was surrounded by greatness, but many QB’s have done much more with less. Dude was a straight up bust. Didn’t do anything with ATL or Saints either. Weak arm, poor decision maker, not mobile.
He did have awful coaching in Detroit
@@earthsucks9555 💯
@@earthsucks9555 I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players.
I remember thinking he was far and away the best QB in that draft. It wasn’t all his fault. Same with David Carr.
Making it to the NFL is amazing regardless of how your career turns out. It's such a slim chance to make it at all
What a humble conversation. We can learn from this. It applies in what we do everyday
@@wadespencer1119 😂🤣👍
It certainly does not.
I love the interviews like this way more than the interviews with people who excelled in the NFL (Rodgers + McAfee aside). There is so much more to learn and appreciate. Thanks! Keep them coming!
Joey Harrington was that dude in college.
This is great 2 high draft picks being brutally honest
Puts Brady's first year in the league, with zero expectations, into perspective. Of course, what Tom did with the prep time is breathtaking, but he had the space to to it.
I still say that joy Harrington would have been good if the coach believed in him and we had an offensive line that could have protected him he had the quickest release out of almost any quarterback I've ever seen
Truth
He started for the Falcons and was horrible. Excuses
I agree
@@elbowgang9715 that’s because he was broken by that point. It’s hard to be good when your confidence is gone and you’ve been lambasted and ruined. One of the keys to success is fit within a team and scheme. Joey never had a chance. No, he wasn’t going to be a great top shelf qb most likely, but he’d have been solid in the right situation from the beginning.
Glad these two guys can look back at their experiences positively
Joey was with the Lions and it was clear that ridiculous aspirations for him in a system that never adapted to his talents. He was with a team that did not utilize his talents well. Wrong team. Wrong place. Wrong time.
Then played for Nick Saban and still was a bum
Sucking dont help either.
Harrington like many other QBs who never hit are victims of instability.
2002 HC Marty Mortenweig OC Maurice Carthon
2003-04 new HC Steve Marinucci new OC Sherman Lewis
05 new OC Ted Tollner … week 11 Marinucci fired Tollner demoted to TE coach. new OC Greg Olsen
06 new HC Rod Marinelli OC Mike Martz
No, Saben couldnt even make him winner
@@thomasnorris3257 Saben is a crappy pro coach. Long line Of Uber successful college coaches who can’t get it done in the NFL. We just saw urban Meyer go through the same experience. Chip Kelly is another one.
He played for the Saints and the Falcons too
Please don't put Chip Kelly in that crowd. Also, it's ridiculous to give a college coach only 1-2 years to succeed, eso when they've been handed a dreadful team. Most NFL head coaching legends have many bad years.
@@nsn5564 Chip Kelly was the worst of any of 'em.
That Joey Harrington smile still is so unsettling.
GIVE LEAF HIS OWN SHOW!
That was a great interview - Love Joey - Loving Leaf the more i watch him now.
Ryan Leaf is a bright guy! Always enjoy his appearances
This is nice to see Ryan Leaf on a different side being himself as a future talk show analyst instead of being on the spotlight hype where we all know that fame and fortune will tear an athlete apart. I'm bless that Ryan Leaf is being himself. Great interview with Joey Harrington.
All the graphics say "Former NFL Quarterback", "Former Oregon Ducks Quarterback" "3rd Overall Pick" but never say 'Detroit Lions". Why? Because they didn't want to answer their own question of 'Why Joey Harrington Failed to Live up to Expectations'. This was the Matt Millen era - the worst era of the franchise and that is saying A LOT.
Main reasons: Matt Millen and Matt Millen… complete futility when your GM refuses to even come to Michigan, let alone be in Detroit. Millen tried running thing’s from his farm via telephone calls.
I hear Matt's still trying to convince the Lions to draft more first round WRs.
@@JK-br1mu I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players. And I blame Matt Millen.
@@Younima4 well he definitely believed in elite wide receivers, I give him that
I'd rather be an NFL bust than having played semi pro ball like I did. A bust doesn't sound so bad.
You could have been Montana, Brady, Marino, Elway, or just about any other HOF QB and you would've failed with that team. The same goes for the coach. Matt Millen's legacy...
Good interview haven't heard Joey speak since he left the lions
Name I haven't heard in a while. Getting drafted to the lions, loads of instability. He never had a chance
I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players.
Trust me, Oregon fans never stop mentioning him. He calls in to the Oregon sports show every Friday and has some pretty cool stories.
Detroit's offensive line was notoriously bad. I doubt even Joey remembers how many times he got hit. Thing is, you get hit enough times, you expect to get hit. You could see it in the way he played, and Tony Siragussa called him weak for it, but he honestly endured more than any 'successful' QB ever did.
In 2002-2003 the Lions offensive line was actually pretty good. They gave up the fewest sacks those 2 seasons
@@derektorres9275 it's either the team surrounding Joey, or Joey himself. I'm willing but hesitant to say it was almost all Joey's fault. But also Matt Millens for not benching Joey his rookie year.
Joey”5 picks”Harrington a beavers legend
Very underrated comment..go beavs!!
4:20, The Red Wings won a Stanley Cup a few months later 😀
I really wanted him to work. Loved him in college, really nice guy..some of it was bad luck going to Detroit. He wasn't overly gifted athletically either (like Stafford) to overcome it
5:10 did someone burp? Haha
Leaf laughing
Joey was a horrible quarterback for my Lions. It wasn't all his fault but he didn't help matters.
Casual fans think players don’t make it because their “trash”. While that is true in some cases. Guys getting lazy, content, losing their competitive fire etc. I feel pretty strongly that most failures in the nfl are due to bad coaching. Imagine where jimmy gorropollo would be right now if Kyle shannahan made him drop back 40x a game and made him run quarterback run plays. Most coaches are extremely impatient and do not know how to use their players strengths. They try to force a square into the triangle slot and then blame the square for not fitting. It’s honestly sad.
Personally I think that's Steve mariucci. Idk if it's in this interview because I didn't watch it all but Harrington said a few years ago that mariucci told him you can't change our game plan because "that's not how Bill Walsh did it" WTF
Kyle Shanahan is not a good coach and Jimmy Gorropollo is a better QB than his results. If the 49ers had a competant coach in the Gorropollo era they would have won another SB already
Now 👁️ "feel" 4 Joey 🦁
Harrington and Batch I think would have been much better had they gone to a team with some sense.
He was a bust. Just stop.
@@Younima4 the lions are a bust. Ruining careers for 60 years
That year ended up being a bust in terms of QBs being drafted in 2002.
Joey Harrington vs David carr
Matt Millen. There is your reason
Why Joey and not Joe? Joe sounds tougher.
Ryan Leaf > Rich Eisen
He went to the damn Lions. Joey had no chance.
Joey never had a chance to begin with. Shitty qb and not NFL ready.
His college career pass percentage was 54%. Not an accurate quarterback. He had a decent college career. That’s why I was concerned as a lions fan that we were drafting a qb again 4 years later.
Isn't it time to call yourself Joe now? You're a very grown man.
Yup.
Joey can play the Hell out of a piano! Detroit is what happened to Joey.
Joey was a bust. Just stop pin pointing the blame.
Can’t imagine how many careers were ruined by Detroit lions foolishness
Oh can you not. "Wasted careers", we never had enough talent to go to the promise land because we always ended up losing in the wildcard.
I don’t blame him for being bad in Detroit! The ford family didn’t know how to build a team. He was set up to fail
Busty Bust interviewing another Busty Bust...
He still has the same Great Clips haircut
Joey "Great Clips" Harrington. Hahaha
He got drafted by the Lions. That’s why he faulted. Had he been drafted by any team that actually tries to build a winner he most likely would’ve done better.
I’ve got nothing personal against the guy - he seems like a nice guy. And maybe it was the gameplan. But oh my god, sooo many check downs. Just little 3 yard passes to the running back. All the time. I don’t care what excuses he makes. He was a really bad NFL quarterback.
Joey, like David Carr, were drafted by shitty teams and suffered endless trial by fire
David Carr was actually good. Joey wasn't. So stop.
@@Younima4 I knocked the teams, not the players....
I heard he was a snob. Looking at his social media, it becomes even more clear.
This is the real world equivalent of uncle Rico taking about how he could of gone pro
I thought he would be good
Gold
I love these comments. How’s your millions? That’s right, your alarm clock is set in the morning.
I used to like Joey
Lol
He was drafted by my lions that’s why he failed !! We ruined stafford, sanders, and megatron
he was scared the whole time he played in the nfl.
happy nervous feet.
That's an easy one. He got drafted by the Lions. End of story.
Hahaha your so funny and original
@@Younima4 Thanks. Glad you think so.
he never made it cause he lived in taylor mi while playing for the lions. it was a janky golf course that came with the neighborhood too. good ole taylor-tucky "we have alot, but not that much"
He never made it because he had only half the talent Matt Stafford had and played for a dysfunctional Lions team.
Wouldn't it make sense to live in Taylor? Since it's right next to all the Lions facilities in Allen Park? Sorry maybe I'm not getting the joke...
@@Michael-dy7zp that as well
@@Michael-dy7zp I think Detroits problem isnt that they wasted careers of potentially elite players. It's that they didn't have enough elite players.
How naive can you be? I am much older than Joey, and stopped playing QB in H.S. and then only 2nd string but I knew just from being alive that the NFL for high draft pick QB's is a zero tolerance environment...they are Professionals playing for their livelihood as are the coaches, so they aren't going to wet nurse a rookie QB.
Ol' Noodle Arm
Buy a mansion .... then go play golf .... ya you will become a success for sure
Joey ballgame
Yea, yea the organization was terrible. But he alsot wasnt very good and abysmally inaccurate.
Takes one to know one huh
How was your nfl career?
@@gilbert8162 you are so mad
Losers lose. Ducks suck.
Back to Back busts
He was horrible. Football Ops in Detroit was even worse.
Can I please have the last 8 mins of my life back?
No you cannot.
From a Lions fan...Harrington was pure TRASH!!!
Just a couple of busts chopping it up.
How did your NFL career work out?
@@Quinn37 how did your college career pan out
@@sayten5512 Relevance?
Too bad you never were good enough at anything to make it to bust.
@@Quinn37 How is your response relevant?
He still crying about this?
Sounds like you are.
What I hear is a thoughtful and honest conversation shedding insight into something rarely discussed. Seems like you're the toxic whiner.
@@nsn5564 "Shedding" insight? 😅
Learn to write, buddy.
Literally he first interview in 15 years
@@Warden033 Here we go again with numbskull Millennials who don't know the literal meaning of "literally."
How utterly pathetic.