Unfortunately, there is a limitation to this method. It can only work on closed profiles. I have also been thinking about how I would go about wrapping open sketch lines. It would most probably be along the lines of the method shown in the thin emboss video: ua-cam.com/video/-KJ7jf_AJlI/v-deo.html
What I think would be a great challenge is to model a motorcycle gear shift drum. It's a relatively simple shape but as far as I know impossible to do in Fusion. Some years ago I tried for months to model one but gave up. I love your videos btw.
This guy amazed me by clicking those functions that I never thought to click. Imagine how much time I could have saved if I had known about those functions earlier!😂
Thank you 15 times, I've been working on this for 15 hours and I said I won't give up until I succeed, thank you for the embos, now I can put fish scale around the whole fish, it was so easy and I was lucky I immediately came across another video and that was yours, I will look at the others as we
The concept of wrapping any sketch on any surface (not just rounded) should be implemented by fusion. A further step could then allow the wrapping of the sketch plane itself. Again I think of a Grasshoper like feature. Imagine modeling a complex texture on a plane that gets stitched to any shaped body surface.
This needs to be implemented into fusion so badly, especially with more complex surfaces. Not every model is going to work with strictly flat surfaces and revolves
I was trying to emboss something without knowing what the term was. Even if your goal wasn't to teach about embossing, stumbling across your video fixed my problem. Thanks!
Thank you for this vid!!! It helped me a lot in creating a pipe through an emboss edge. (application: complex curved cooling tube for a drum which has to be perfectly welled on a curved copper plate) The trouble I had before was working with the different curves on more levels and getting the distances right. Now I could design the complex grid with different radius and more levels easy in 2D and then project them on a complex curved face. I can change these faces (of the different drums) and curves (widder or more compact) working with parameters. It works like a charm! Earlier I was drawing in sketch 3D and did a lot with copy paste and used different planes it was a lot of work to get it perfect and working with parameters didn't give the result, it should. Again, a lot of kudo's!
Hi! Really interesting video! Now I actually need to do exactly the opposite...I should to "unwrap" a curved face of a body to a straight sketch (to project a curved face on a flat Plan as a sketch). Is there a good way with enable to maintain the same mesurements? Thanks so much!
Do you think there are any examples where performing the split and sketch to produce the pipe would be more appropriate as the second method seems much more efficient and neat?
Nice, but unfortunately this only works on cylindrical bodies. I’m a tire designer, and my tires aren’t shaped like cylinders. So I have to bend/wrap my tread in two directions at once, across a complex shape consisting of multiple tangent arcs. I haven’t found an Autodesk product yet that can handle that. Only Solidworks or ProE.
Whats the best practice too remove body 2 in this situation. If you delete body 2 would this affect the pipe as its lost its origins, would best practise mean you should leave it as hidden. I think this is the wrong way but I would hide body and excuse a cut command around body 2 too remove it, this way the pipe will still have its origin, but I no longer have body 2 on workspace?
This was very helpful for getting the correct profile on the surface. Thank you. I'm trying to create a spiraling slot in the wall of a hollow cylinder where a bearing mounted on a second cylinder in its interior will ride against. This will create a rotating motion as the two cylinders move axially in relation to each other. My problem is the emboss feature (actually the deboss option) tapers the profile the further it is projected to the centerline (axis) of the cylinders. Do you know of a solution that will cut the profile perpendicular to the surface without tapering it? I appreciate any help you can provide.
Hello, How can I make a sinusodial shaped cutout around a cilinder? I suppose it's the same workflow as you do here, but can I wrap the entire sinus shape around the entire cilinder or do I need to cut the cilinder in half and then wrap half the sinusodial shape on each side?
I hate when situations like this come up where instead of focusing on solving an actual problem, you need to focus on working around limitations of the tool. this should be a standard feature in fusion, and the existence of the emboss command proves that it can be done
Have you tried the emboss rotation? I found that if my sketch was larger than the diameter of the curve, I would start with it rotated 90° vertically, then use the emboss rotation to "unrotate" it. This gives me a nearly perfect wrap. EDIT: So my method is: 1. Create your desired slot profile with it's axis aligned vertical (perpendicular to cylinder axis then, 2. Emboss a 0.01mm protrusion onto your curved surface with a 90º rotation angle. (my cylinder was 100mm tall, diameter 50mm, emboss was 0.01mm) 3. Simply enable the pipe command and select the emboss edge directly. This gave me "exact" lengths. E.g. my slot's straight length was 48.54mm, and the equivalent pipe length was 48.54mm. I couldn't see any issues with either a zebra or curve analysis.
Hi, great video. Couldn't you still use "Project to Surface" with "Closest Point" to achieve the same result, if you make sure that the sketch plane/curves are touching the cylinder?
This is an interesting idea. I went to test this by sketching on a plane tangent to the cylinder. And no, it does not wrap. The closest point option simply finds the shortest distance between the sketch and the curved surface and projects the sketch that way.
@@Fusion360School Thanks for trying it out! The way it looked in your video, it almost seemed to be projected based on the axis of curvature of the cylinder, but now I realize that wouldn't be the closest distance :)
This problem had puzzled me for way too long. I still don't find a desired solution. I always extrude the surface and create a splited face, and work from there, which is obviously disorted but I have no better solution.
It boggles my mind that fusion team hasn't implemented emboss to work with sketches (like the wrap command in sw). Instead we have to rely on hacks all the time.
At the moment, the emboss feature is only limited to surfaces with curvature in one direction. There isn't a command available right now that can perform a true wrap on more complex surfaces. Autodesk has mentioned that they are working on this capability in the forums, but I don't know when that would be available. If you don't need a true wrap, it is possible to achieve an approximate with the surrogate emboss method.
Missing Features the fact that we need to do Workarounds like this is why I'm not even considering giving autodesk any money they need to get this product out of Open Beta
Unfortunately, there is a limitation to this method. It can only work on closed profiles. I have also been thinking about how I would go about wrapping open sketch lines. It would most probably be along the lines of the method shown in the thin emboss video:
ua-cam.com/video/-KJ7jf_AJlI/v-deo.html
What I think would be a great challenge is to model a motorcycle gear shift drum. It's a relatively simple shape but as far as I know impossible to do in Fusion. Some years ago I tried for months to model one but gave up. I love your videos btw.
Great as you told it work only on Clean surface geo, try to apply it on Mesh imported & converted in solid it won't work. Thank you
This guy amazed me by clicking those functions that I never thought to click. Imagine how much time I could have saved if I had known about those functions earlier!😂
Thank you 15 times, I've been working on this for 15 hours and I said I won't give up until I succeed, thank you for the embos, now I can put fish scale around the whole fish, it was so easy and I was lucky I immediately came across another video and that was yours, I will look at the others as we
Excellent tutorial. Your channel is criminally underrated. Keep up the great work.
Your small leaps in logic always blow my mind. Thanks for this workaround for a very common problem in Fusion. 👍
This guy's videos are all very good and not beginner stuff
The concept of wrapping any sketch on any surface (not just rounded) should be implemented by fusion. A further step could then allow the wrapping of the sketch plane itself.
Again I think of a Grasshoper like feature.
Imagine modeling a complex texture on a plane that gets stitched to any shaped body surface.
This needs to be implemented into fusion so badly, especially with more complex surfaces. Not every model is going to work with strictly flat surfaces and revolves
Plane means flat. Your idea goes against the concept of planes.
An awesomely elegant solution! Your channel deserves more likes and subscribers. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
😊 0:28 wait I'm interested 😬Thank you 🐈🐾🐾 nice Sunday
1:17 cooool 🥰
3:15 Thank you!
I was trying to emboss something without knowing what the term was. Even if your goal wasn't to teach about embossing, stumbling across your video fixed my problem. Thanks!
Deboss to cut on a curved surface is pretty clever. Thank you
Excelent. Your channel is way underrated keep it up!
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you.
Thank you for this vid!!!
It helped me a lot in creating a pipe through an emboss edge.
(application: complex curved cooling tube for a drum which has to be perfectly welled on a curved copper plate)
The trouble I had before was working with the different curves on more levels and getting the distances right.
Now I could design the complex grid with different radius and more levels easy in 2D and then project them on a complex curved face.
I can change these faces (of the different drums) and curves (widder or more compact) working with parameters.
It works like a charm!
Earlier I was drawing in sketch 3D and did a lot with copy paste and used different planes
it was a lot of work to get it perfect and working with parameters didn't give the result, it should.
Again, a lot of kudo's!
Been using fusion for years and never tried this. Thanks!
Nice clear explanations and easy to follow. Had to subscribe immediately.
Hi! Really interesting video! Now I actually need to do exactly the opposite...I should to "unwrap" a curved face of a body to a straight sketch (to project a curved face on a flat Plan as a sketch). Is there a good way with enable to maintain the same mesurements? Thanks so much!
just what i was looking for! this keeps the dimensions of the model, compared to the intersection operation or extruding onto an object surface!
Fantastic! Thanks for hacking through Fusion for us!
Your videos are great, they have helped me many times.
Wow been doing a bunch of math and the emboss feature could've saved me this entire time hahaha wow
I wonder if this will work to make tire tread on my scale model tires
such brilliant teaching!!!
This is very specific video. Thanks 🎉
Do you think there are any examples where performing the split and sketch to produce the pipe would be more appropriate as the second method seems much more efficient and neat?
great lesson, thanks!
Great tutorial, thanks for posting
Nice, but unfortunately this only works on cylindrical bodies. I’m a tire designer, and my tires aren’t shaped like cylinders. So I have to bend/wrap my tread in two directions at once, across a complex shape consisting of multiple tangent arcs. I haven’t found an Autodesk product yet that can handle that. Only Solidworks or ProE.
I think this was in response to my question and I thank you.
Whats the best practice too remove body 2 in this situation.
If you delete body 2 would this affect the pipe as its lost its origins, would best practise mean you should leave it as hidden.
I think this is the wrong way but I would hide body and excuse a cut command around body 2 too remove it, this way the pipe will still have its origin, but I no longer have body 2 on workspace?
as always... thanks for getting me out of a jamb!
i want to print the surface of a product that is 3d on paper, how can I make a sketch of its surface.
thany you
This was very helpful for getting the correct profile on the surface. Thank you.
I'm trying to create a spiraling slot in the wall of a hollow cylinder where a bearing mounted on a second cylinder in its interior will ride against. This will create a rotating motion as the two cylinders move axially in relation to each other.
My problem is the emboss feature (actually the deboss option) tapers the profile the further it is projected to the centerline (axis) of the cylinders. Do you know of a solution that will cut the profile perpendicular to the surface without tapering it?
I appreciate any help you can provide.
How to use it on spherical surface?
Hello, How can I make a sinusodial shaped cutout around a cilinder? I suppose it's the same workflow as you do here, but can I wrap the entire sinus shape around the entire cilinder or do I need to cut the cilinder in half and then wrap half the sinusodial shape on each side?
So nice
Thank you!
this is fantastic
I hate when situations like this come up where instead of focusing on solving an actual problem, you need to focus on working around limitations of the tool. this should be a standard feature in fusion, and the existence of the emboss command proves that it can be done
Have you tried the emboss rotation? I found that if my sketch was larger than the diameter of the curve, I would start with it rotated 90° vertically, then use the emboss rotation to "unrotate" it. This gives me a nearly perfect wrap.
EDIT:
So my method is: 1. Create your desired slot profile with it's axis aligned vertical (perpendicular to cylinder axis then,
2. Emboss a 0.01mm protrusion onto your curved surface with a 90º rotation angle. (my cylinder was 100mm tall, diameter 50mm, emboss was 0.01mm)
3. Simply enable the pipe command and select the emboss edge directly.
This gave me "exact" lengths. E.g. my slot's straight length was 48.54mm, and the equivalent pipe length was 48.54mm. I couldn't see any issues with either a zebra or curve analysis.
I get "no intersection between target and split tool" each timne.
Is it possible to do it in reverse direction?
Great video!
Hi, great video. Couldn't you still use "Project to Surface" with "Closest Point" to achieve the same result, if you make sure that the sketch plane/curves are touching the cylinder?
This is an interesting idea. I went to test this by sketching on a plane tangent to the cylinder. And no, it does not wrap. The closest point option simply finds the shortest distance between the sketch and the curved surface and projects the sketch that way.
@@Fusion360School Thanks for trying it out! The way it looked in your video, it almost seemed to be projected based on the axis of curvature of the cylinder, but now I realize that wouldn't be the closest distance :)
thanks
This problem had puzzled me for way too long. I still don't find a desired solution.
I always extrude the surface and create a splited face, and work from there, which is obviously disorted but I have no better solution.
How to do this on torous ??
how u offset that sketch from 3 points?
when cam tutorial
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What about spheres, this was the closest I've got to making my sketch to wrap around the half sphere, extremely disappointing
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It boggles my mind that fusion team hasn't implemented emboss to work with sketches (like the wrap command in sw). Instead we have to rely on hacks all the time.
Does anyone have any experience with a wrap of this kind with non-cylindrical faces/surfaces?
At the moment, the emboss feature is only limited to surfaces with curvature in one direction. There isn't a command available right now that can perform a true wrap on more complex surfaces. Autodesk has mentioned that they are working on this capability in the forums, but I don't know when that would be available. If you don't need a true wrap, it is possible to achieve an approximate with the surrogate emboss method.
Missing Features
the fact that we need to do Workarounds like this
is why I'm not even considering giving autodesk any money
they need to get this product out of Open Beta
Thanks