[BRAND NEW] FNIRSI 2C53P ⭐ 2Ch 50Mhz Oscilloscope + Multimeter + Function Generator

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @davidpelechano7422
    @davidpelechano7422 22 дні тому

    Hello, mate! I don't know if you've continued testing the oscilloscope. I've bought one myself, and I'm having an issue with the screen refresh when using the single trigger. Does something similar happen with yours?

  • @enolmatilla
    @enolmatilla 3 місяці тому +1

    Which will you pick between this and the DSO3D12? Searching for a basic "bench" oscilloscope for Arduino electronics, PCB testing and so on.
    Greetings!

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  3 місяці тому

      Hi, you'll be well served with any of them , but for what you mentioned this 2C3P is pretty good. A nice screen, accurate enought, good interface, you'll be ok. Thanks for watching.

  • @juhaszpeter4796
    @juhaszpeter4796 6 місяців тому +6

    Hi.
    Thanks for the review, I'd like to add a few things.
    For such devices, it would be worthwhile to include a disassembly part in the video, because the multimeter part of the Fnirsi is a disaster.
    Fuse doesn't have a case, but small glass fuses soldered in, the panel of the multimeter part a few centimeters away from the main panel, without any insulation.
    Because of the ranziens, I wouldn't even dare to measure the mains 230VAC with it.
    The part of the multimeter is imprecise, you are better off buying a Zoyi multimeter and a separate hand-held oscilloscope.
    The only thing I really like about it is the trend bar.🥰
    So much for the oscilloscope part.
    The amount of memory is not properly defined, it is not possible to know how many memory points are actually used.
    If the sampling is stopped, you cannot zoom in properly, each time base has a value after which the wave does not change, but you see the time base decrease.
    It takes a lot more samples to measure frequency than any of my other scopes. More at higher frequencies.
    Handling it is difficult if you have large hands, I often manage to shift the wave or the horizontal position of the trigger when I want to adjust the tension of the trigger.
    The rotary parameter setting is brain dead.
    You can't wrap it around, but you can see it in the graphic.
    With two settings, why not a smooth switch? AC/DC, CH1/CH2 selector for trigger. etc.
    The single trigger function only works with a slower time base.
    I tried to do it, a frequency limit measurement that I think is much more effective.
    When you measure the rise of the square signal. And you count on that.
    But this is not possible because it does not allow a single trigger with a fast time base.
    If I remember correctly, under 2ms, I'm not sure about that.
    This is a huge drop from the DPOX180H.
    There is also a start/stop button at the bottom, which is easier to use than the small arrow in the upper right corner of the screen.
    And your signal generator is garbage.
    He can't keep the frequency, there's a little wobble.
    At the higher frequency, a DC offset is included.
    Positive variable value output only, not normal AC. You can't shift it with Offset either.
    I think what you saw as a shadow was a setting error on your Rigol.
    The signal is very noisy.
    There is distortion in the signal at 1.6V.
    All in all, it's a trap, well worth the price.
    This is the category where you should save more money and buy a normal usable one.
    Even if it costs 3-4 times as much, it is much more worth it.
    for example.: Hantek TO1112D costs twice as much, but does much, much, much more... and only twice as much...
    or
    Zoyi multimeter + stand alone signal generator + Hantek TO1112.
    This can be three or four times as much, but in return it is three separate devices.
    Compared to the Fnirsi, you'll have an awesome multimeter, an awesome signal generator with two outputs, and a lot more features, and you'll have an awesome oscilloscope.🥰
    You can use them in several situations at the same time, if something goes wrong, not all three devices go in the trash.🤣

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  5 місяців тому +3

      Hi! First and foremost, I would like to thank you for the time you spend and dedicated in this comment, really appreciate it 🙏 you touch a lot of valid points, but two stand immediately to me 1) "This is a huge drop from the DPOX180H." - agree! The DPOX180H really raised the bar and in terms of oscilloscope is for me one of the best in portable form factor, that's the way they should follow. 2) "Even if it costs 3-4 times as much, it is much more worth it." - I get what you're saying and to be honest, I kind of have the same filling. But one thing I understood is, that I am privileged and for me, I prefer to buy ONCE a more expensive equipment (I did with my Rigol oscilloscope, power supply and signal generator and a siglent multimeter), the problem is, there is a lot of places and situations where this device will be enough. for work or hobby, only the viewer will know if this will fit their needs in terms of 1) tech specs or 2) and most of the times, the budget.
      All summed up, you have a point in most of your notes, thanks for watching.

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  5 місяців тому +1

      PS - I didn't to the teardown because the video was already over 1 hour in duration... 😬

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TechCornerTV I don't know if there are any restrictions on the length of the video that can be uploaded by UA-cam, but I think a few minutes would not affect the viewer badly.
      I remember when I watched a 5x40-minute teardown video series without a break.
      In that case, I would agree with you if this scope knew what was described in its specifications.
      But the multimeter part is inaccurate. it was complained about in one of the posts, so i tested it. Unfortunately, there is a drift when measuring current.
      The part of the signal generator is garbage, 3V max and no offset can be set on it. In addition, the quality of the signal is also rubbish. its frequency is not stable. there is some garbage between the start and end of the wave.
      The oscilloscope part is also unreliable.
      there are many restrictions. which is meaningless.
      single trigger limited only above 2us/Div.
      After stop the signal with the single trigger, you can't zoom in.
      The time indicator changing but the signal doesnt.
      If you stop the signal in normal or auto mode, you can zoom in, but somtimes the signal distored.
      10Mhz sine signal need more than 18 period for frequency measurement.
      1,5Vpp+0.75V offset 10Mhz signal in 200ns/div show a 2Vpp signal. in 80ns it show 5.5Vpp. and the signal distored a little.
      unreasonable function, 20MHz BWlimit for a 10Mhz scope why? BTW the limit doesnt work. i try with a 10Mhz square wave signal...
      "Built-in SDRAM, real storage depth" really funny... Haha
      You can only save images, not csv files, which is no accident. Otherwise, it would turn out that the promised 64kByte, which should mean 64,000 samples for an 8-bit scope, is not nearly as much.
      Owon saved 8000 samples, and for real.
      I compared it with that, and my intuition is that it doesn't look better than 12,000 samples.
      I currently have 3 fnirsi, 2 owon, 1 sigpeak dso1511e+, 2 Micsig and 1 Rigol scopes.
      The three Fniri are 1013D, DPOX180H and this is 2C53P.
      I cannot agree with one of your commenters that one always needs 4 channels, because in most cases 1-2 channels are more than enough.
      At least the channels don't always have to be in sync.
      two two-channel scopes are often better than one 4-channel scope
      The first thing I bought was the 1013D, and two weeks later I bought my first Micsig scope...
      after that I needed a smaller handheld scope.
      I bought Sigpeak and an Owon because of the +signal generator.
      Later
      I wanted to replace the Sigpeak with a two-channel one with a larger display, so I bought the DPOX180H
      I then ordered another Owon...
      I just ordered this 2C53P for my brother. And I'm currently looking for another brand at a reasonable price, maybe Hantek...
      I gave Fnirsi a chance to prove herself several times...
      What I wrote before is still valid, because if someone might need this inaccurate and unreliable tool.
      For which Fnirsi will perhaps release one or two more updates and then start selling another series and forget about this series.
      He'll be in an awkward position later if he needs more. I don't have the guts to sell the 1013D to someone else, DPOX is just usable. I still don't know what to do with this.
      I'm waiting for the latest update, I think they'll deal with it this year and then put it in the deep end like DPOX.
      if it will be usefull, then I will keep it to measure battery voltage, I really like the trend bar.
      Thank you for the video and the opportunity to say what was on my heart.🥰

    • @ivanyou5795
      @ivanyou5795 5 місяців тому +1

      @@juhaszpeter4796
      "10Mhz sine signal need more than 18 period for frequency measurement." -->
      In my copy of the oscilloscope, it is almost the same, but only on the 1st (first) channel. on the 2nd (second) channel, the signal frequency is determined correctly, regardless of the number of periods on the screen. Please check this on your oscilloscope.
      The built-in multimeter works well, except for measuring capacity - it understates the readings.

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 5 місяців тому +2

      @@ivanyou5795
      Thanks, I just tested it and it's the same for me too.
      There is something wrong with each channel
      With the multimeter, I only checked a couple of voltages and recently, at the request of a colleague, the current.
      I prefer to use an LCR meter for capacitors and other components.
      The voltage measurement was not as accurate as my other multimeters. 9 owon, 2 aneng, 1 rigol, 1 uni-t.
      due to its physical design, I wouldn't really dare to use it in conditions where large transients may occur.
      During current measurement, the value increases continuously.
      the higher the current, the faster.

  • @recursoseninternet
    @recursoseninternet 10 днів тому

    I would like to ask. It seems that the oscilloscope probe included with this equipment can only be set to x1 and x10, even if I buy an x100, it cannot be configured. So, with the probes it comes with, can I measure and see the 220V mains voltage at x10? According to the manual, I believe it only supports 400V peak to peak, and I think the mains voltage could exceed that since it is 220V RMS (and in some cases it can exceed 240V). I need help with this before buying because no one says anything about this.

  • @bobisyouruncle1
    @bobisyouruncle1 6 місяців тому +6

    It's a FRISNI 50Gemahertz oscillohope. It's very funcatious.

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому +2

      Hi, agreed. Thanks for watching!

  • @markabero5443
    @markabero5443 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi thank you so much for the review on this device. Im looking for my first buy oscilloscope for car diagnostics do you recommend this device?

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  4 місяці тому

      Hi, I liked this one pretty much, for starters is great. Thanks for watching.

  • @batacalence
    @batacalence 28 днів тому

    what is the function button oscilloscope/measure/amp in oscilloscope fnirsi 2c53p ?

  • @planker
    @planker 6 місяців тому

    Excellent presentation
    I was really hoping to see a signal gen in the scope, but it looks not so good. The other features look ok.
    I have several FNIRSI mini scopes and they do fine. I really need a good sinewave gen for transistor experiments.
    Can you show something on Function Generators, I currently build a circuit for each freq. a push button gadget would be nice.

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, the weird part is that it started very good and in some point, started to have that weird behavior, really strange. I think that is some kind of firmware solvable problem, let's see. Thanks for watching.

  • @TR-707
    @TR-707 5 місяців тому +1

    did you ever find the reason for the interdimensional LED not being detected?

    • @ci70telita
      @ci70telita 2 місяці тому +1

      The direct voltage on the LED is 2,671v, so it exceeds 1.9999V.... in these circumstances, the instrument naturally displays, OL... seems that it does not have autoranging on this function, yet ....🙂

  • @cg125fimotoge6
    @cg125fimotoge6 5 місяців тому +1

    1ch DSD20M を所有していますが、2CHのこのオシロに買え変える予定です
    あなたの情報は有意義ですね ありがとう。

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  5 місяців тому +1

      Hello! Glad it could help, thanks for watching and you nice comment!

  • @ulisherny236
    @ulisherny236 5 місяців тому +2

    FUNCATION button? Tell FNIRSI to correct the mispelling. :) Nice Video, thanks!

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  5 місяців тому +1

      Hi, well those were the first units, I was informed that this was corrected. Even so, can have been avoided. Thanks for watching.

    • @jelleveirman
      @jelleveirman 3 місяці тому +1

      *misspelling! ;-p

  • @rioreyvaldy1593
    @rioreyvaldy1593 6 місяців тому +1

    Which one is better, dso 150 or dso 152?

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, DSO152 all the way! 😁 no doubts about it. This one is on another level, a totally different beast. Thanks for watching.

    • @tomperli4513
      @tomperli4513 3 місяці тому +1

      For a bit more bucks you get the DSO 153 with double Sampling rate , 5 times analog bandwith and a ( basic)function generator...

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  3 місяці тому

      @@tomperli4513 Hi, yes true. The price difference isn't that much and the specs are much better. Good observation, thanks.

  • @jim-cu9yp
    @jim-cu9yp Місяць тому

    how do I get back to the main menu to change language settings

  • @khuongathebounga4141
    @khuongathebounga4141 6 місяців тому

    Nice review video. Thanks Hugo.

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, nice to have you here and I'm glad you liked it. Take care and thanks for watching!

  • @bobisyouruncle1
    @bobisyouruncle1 6 місяців тому

    Very nice explanation.

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi. Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!

  • @PeoterRhubarb
    @PeoterRhubarb 6 місяців тому

    Thank you 🙏

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, you're welcome, really glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.

  • @miladinseratlic5984
    @miladinseratlic5984 4 місяці тому +2

    even it looks very nice i'm sooo *not* into this INTENSE screen touching to get some of the basic settings...

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  4 місяці тому

      Hi, I get you and share some of the feeling, but it was a nice compromise between the size and the features, buttons for all of it, will increase greatly the size. Thanks for watching.

  • @voxpop9
    @voxpop9 6 місяців тому

    I have to say that the DSO3D12 is much better as it includes one very important feature that i don't think was covered in your guide: it has a frequency measurement of up to 4 decimal points, which I needed to measure the DS3231 32.768Khz square wave.

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, yes it is true, this one doesn't have a frequency counter, the DPO3D12 is also a really nice device, also like it very much. Thanks for watching.

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 6 місяців тому

      The depth of this memory is 128kb, with a good chance of a maximum of 16kpoint samples for an 8-bit scope.🤔
      If the multimeter part and the signal generator are not important, then the Hantek TO1112 is better. It has less sampling but much more memory.
      I don't know how many Bugs there are, unfortunately I bought this Fnirsi instead.😭

    • @ivanyou5795
      @ivanyou5795 5 місяців тому +1

      The DSO3D12 has a much worse signal generator - there is no amplitude adjustment of the signal. In this case, the signal generator did not seem very good at first, but after changing the complete wires to good ones, I was satisfied with it. Moreover, it outputs all signals with a frequency of 10 MHz.

  • @eraldylli
    @eraldylli 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly, I dont get this. If someone thinks they need a scope, they probably have a multimeter already. Nothing is for free, if they give a multimeter in the scope, they are making a compromise somewhere, and probably are increasing the product's price too.
    I see you have tested all FNIRSI tools; of their scopes which would you recommend for a home working space?

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, if you want something really good as scope from FNIRSI, go for the DPOX180H. I think they nailed that one as a scope and for me, from FNIRSI is the best scope, in terms of accuracy and bandwidth support, really nice. This one will be a nice option also, very good multimeter, but on the oscilloscope has a lower bandwidth support, but that might be enough for your usage. Thanks for watching.

    • @eraldylli
      @eraldylli 6 місяців тому

      @@TechCornerTV Yeah, I havent checkout in detail their handheld ones. I will, but their screen is too small for me. I think the 1014D fits my needs best, since I dont plan to take the scope out in the field.

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 6 місяців тому

      ​@@eraldyllido not do it. you should look it up, there are many videos on the net and it is worth checking out the blogs as well. Fnirsi lied a lot about the 1013 and 1014 series. DPOX is more useful, but has some shortcomings.

  • @eraldylli
    @eraldylli 6 місяців тому +5

    Oh no, they misspelt function, they wrote it "Funcation". That would drive me crazy seeing it every day. If they cant spell right on the outside of the chassis, it doesnt give a lot of confidence about the internal components. Damn, why you do this, Fnirsi?! I want to like that company, I have many of their products.

    • @shaolin95
      @shaolin95 6 місяців тому +2

      Fnrsi attention to detail is a BIT lacking 😂😂😂

    • @eraldylli
      @eraldylli 6 місяців тому +2

      @@shaolin95 It's a shame, because they are on the verge on being seen as a serious company, but then they make HUGE mistakes like that. Come on, dammit...

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому +2

      Hi, I'm so ashamed for not noticing that in the review... my head exploded when I saw this comment. I reported already to the FNIRSI team. Thanks for sharing and watching!

    • @PeoterRhubarb
      @PeoterRhubarb 6 місяців тому +2

      I quite like this new word they invented 😂

    • @Joe_Blo
      @Joe_Blo 6 місяців тому +3

      Is Fnrsi a typo?
      Farsi? Nurse?

  • @digger105337
    @digger105337 2 дні тому

    Don't know many Girls that would say 4.3, Wow much bigger than I thought! 😂

  • @orlandoalarcon4158
    @orlandoalarcon4158 6 місяців тому

    Su pero es la duración de batería

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, not sure what is the battery duration, what I can say is that arrived fully charged, recorded video with it always on for about 6 hours and it lowered 1 bar on the battery indicator, so pretty cool. Don't know in real work environment how much it will last. Thanks for watching.

  • @MrPenguin098
    @MrPenguin098 5 місяців тому

    What is FUNCATION?? What's wrong with FNIRSI? This a major quality control problem. Can you imagine if Fluke mis-spelled their label "PUKE".

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  5 місяців тому

      Hi... ahahaha.. good example! For what I know, this was one of the first units, the units getting to the market right now are ok. But you got a big point. Thanks for watching.

    • @MrPenguin098
      @MrPenguin098 5 місяців тому

      @@TechCornerTV I got mine from Amazon. I'm sending it back. I can't get over their blantant error. 🙂

  • @bobisyouruncle1
    @bobisyouruncle1 6 місяців тому +1

    Seems like all the 'budget' test equipment is multifunctional. More and more half decent tools are crammed into one box. Instead of dedication to one function. Take the dso3d12; why would you want to make a conversation with your scope/gen/DMM? 😂

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому +2

      Hi, I agree with you! I don't get what all manufacturers decide to transform everything in multifunctional devices... not only the small ones, Owon know has a desktop oscilloscope with multimeter (to be honest they have some models like that for quite some time) but release recently also a power supply with multimeter and the Infrared camera from TOOLTOP too. This one is well achieved and will be a nice addition to a hobbyist equipment list, but I also wish that if do something really well, it will be better. But again, in this case, it's not bad at all :) Thanks for watching and your comment.

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 5 місяців тому +2

      The signal generator + oscilloscope makes so much sense that if you want to drive something with a basic signal and it's not a problem that they are on the same circuit, you can do it quickly with one device. Some people have made an I-V curve tracer connection line for it.
      The multimeter part is only a plus if you don't use it as a scope all the time.
      The Owon came in handy a couple of times when we measured and couldn't decide what the hell it was.🤔
      But this is only worth something if it is reliable and accurate. Fnirsi has neither..🤣
      The power supply with the multimeter function is really great, the only drawback is that if you draw a large current from it, there is a chance of a slight drift on the multimeter.
      But regardless, it's great that you don't have to take out a + instrument if you just need a quick measurement.
      The display is split, you don't need to switch, so it's more convenient to use.
      Only its noise and the noise of the fan at high load are a bit disturbing.

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu734 6 місяців тому

    2 channel is just not enough... I'd give up some bandwidth (some...), but I need 4 channels and reasonably deep memory...

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому +1

      Hi, as we usually say, something gotta give. In this case I think it is a balanced device in terms of price vs features. 4 Channel is asking a bit, but I think miniware has a small device with 4 channels, is the only one I can recall at this moment. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 5 місяців тому +1

      For me, on the contrary, 4 channels are often irrelevant.
      the 2x2 channel is better for me.🥰
      It depends on the situation, who does what.😎
      I work more with dependent signals, where the channels don't have to be in sync, so it's no problem if you look with two separate hand-held oscilloscopes.
      Sometimes you can watch three channels in sync, only then the two two-channel scopes must have a common channel with the trigger. so I was able to look at the starting curve of a DC three-phase motor. I didn't have to pull out the larger desktop scope.🥸
      I agree with more memory, but with this Fnirsi it has not yet been proven that it uses as much as it is written.💩

  • @MinaevNikolay
    @MinaevNikolay 6 місяців тому

    я ждал проверки точности в режиме измерения силы тока от 1 до 10 ампер - не дождался. Мой прибор врет при токе выше 5 ампер. начинает завышать показания, чем выше ток - тем сильнее завышает. Хотел узнать что там у других, но увы, автор обошел эту проблему стороной

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому

      Hi, it was not really avoided, I don't usually do Amp measuring on my reviews, you can see any other review of multimeters made by me. Sorry for disappointment, but working on a setup that will automate these measurements. But it is nice to know of this problem, thanks for sharing.

    • @juhaszpeter4796
      @juhaszpeter4796 6 місяців тому

      Yes, mine too.
      I could only check it with DC current, but it starts to overestimate even at 5A.
      At 6A, it went up by 300mA in 1 minute.
      rises faster at higher currents.

    • @ivanyou5795
      @ivanyou5795 5 місяців тому

      От этих проблем не уйти. Мой экземпляр сильно занижает показания при измерении ёмкости (я тут сильно не "парюсь", поскольку дома хватает точных измерителей RCL), и, на 1-м канале, толком не измеряет частоту сигнала, а 2-й канал - измеряет правильно. Все равно, мультиметр тут неплохой - я, вместе с этим, купил себе еще Hantek TO1152D, так у него мультиметр еще хуже, несмотря на то, что он стоит в 3 (три) раза дороже этого.
      There is no escape from these problems. My copy greatly underestimates the readings when measuring capacitance (I'm not really "steaming" here, because there are enough accurate RCL meters at home), and, on the 1st channel, it does not really measure the signal frequency, and the 2nd channel measures correctly. Anyway, the multimeter here is not bad - I, along with this, bought myself another Hantek TO1152D, so his multimeter is even worse, despite the fact that it costs 3 (three) times more expensive than this one.

  • @davidvb3754
    @davidvb3754 6 місяців тому +1

    Video a bit too long.... I skipped immediatly to the conclusion....

    • @TechCornerTV
      @TechCornerTV  6 місяців тому +2

      Hi David, totally understand, that's why I put the chapters in everything, so the viewer can choose what he prefers to view. Some people love it like this, some don't, but I do get what you're saying and really appreciate your feedback and the time you spend to write this message. Thanks for watching and the comment. Take care.