The Return Of Your Insane Hot Takes...
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It's been almost a year since the last hot takes video, but we're back this time asking the youtube community tab instead of twitter, let's see if these got any better...
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Tracklist
♪ China Vox / Street Fighter III: Third Strike
♪ Collection Room / Sonic Generations
♪ Arid Sands - Night / Sonic Unleashed
♪ Molten Lava / Ape Escape
♪ Disco Ball (composed by ZedFox) / Lethal Company
♪ Ending 2 / Street Fighter III: Third Strike
Timestamps:
The Kit System Is Fine - 0:00
Reworking Stages - 0:58
Side Order Should Have Released Later - 1:37
Big Run Over Splatfest Times - 2:17
BP Meta Was Peak - 2:39
More Physics - 3:01
Curlings Are Underrated - 3:41
No More New Classes - 4:11
Remove All Basic Shooters - 4:26
Pros Think There's 1 Way To Play? - 5:09
Zones Is The Worst Mode - 7:00
Just Pick Good Weapons - 8:27
The Balance Isn't That Bad - 9:10
Sploosh over Carbon - 9:35
Thumbnail Guy Here - 10:30 - Ігри
I see so many casual players complaining about pencil, but I never actually encounter pencil in casual matches.
Yeah, Pencil is a really tough weapon at casual levels and Tacticooler isn't that strong in low level either. Pencil requires really good aim since you have to hit 2 shots to kill, so most players at that level are just not good enough to make it stronger then most other, easier picks. I think most casuals that complain about it just do so because top level players do and they're echoing what they hear.
I'm extremely casual and at my level Splashdown in Splat 2 was really good since nobody could cancel it. The meta at low and top level is wildly different.
I find that pencil is a weapon that only works in certain ranks. I play A rank, and pencil is a nightmare there, but if you are playing in lower ranks, then pencil just doesn't work, because tacticool is poor in low ranks
Ye, no pencil here even in S+0. It's E-Liter as far as the eye can see, n it's awful lol
I've always held the opinion that blue pencil is a weapon kit that's basically minmaxed for comp play. Since Cooler inherently requires a level of coordination to reach the full use of, sprinkler is sprinkler, and the main weapon is good but not oppressive in a vacumn.
That said, I DO think Pencil is a bit too min-maxed when you ARE talking competitive play. But I agree that it's less problematic when you're talking low/mid level casual play
@@HolyAlondite Yes I totally agree that the weapon needs to be nerfed. I tried a couple matches with it on Brinewater Springs zones and it was absolutely broken. I think that, if they fixed the map design problems, then maybe the weapon wouldn't need to be nerfed (although I do still think that the paint output would be overtuned), but that is pretty unlikely to happen now. The much safer bet would just be to nerf the weapon's paint, and nerf cooler a good bit.
I see so many people complain about thingg that doesn't even effect them though (in general, not only Splatoon) just because other people are complaining and they want to join in. Obviously for smaller things, not talking about actual big issues that are dangerously affecting the world/other people.
10:27 YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE "Oh by the way, thanks for creating Lethal Company, that game's pretty cool." TOOK ME OFF GUARD.
that is EXACTLY how I felt.
9:49 ZEEKERS THE PERSON THAT MADE LETHAL COMPANY
I THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THING!!!!!!
Yep! It’s *THAT* Zeekers!
wat no that's the guy who made silent dark
@@23h9ubsn31dd he made them both
HE DOES PLAY SPLATOON HE HAS CLIPS ON HIS CHANNEL
wasn't ready for the lethal company dev to drop the weirdest take in history in a splatoon video
Nah based take
I agree with them entirely (I main Sploosh and am very biased please buff Stamp)
He’s totally right tho, Sploosh-o-Matic for life baybee!
the zeekers cameo is insane
Next game should remove ink
It would be Toon instead of Splatoon
Next game should remove you 😍
@@Potato-so6zr and you
@@Potato-so6zr and you
@@Potato-so6zr and you
Fun fact:
If you throw a cooler on an enemy cooler, it deletes the enemy cooler.
Now you know 😊
we knew 😊
@@sunnyblossom_711 Speak for yourself. This is news (and good knowledge) to me
@@sunnyblossom_711I didn’t
we LEARNED 😊
@@sunnyblossom_711
@@sunnyblossom_711I didn’t know either 😊
I agree with the dude who said that zones isn’t that fun, but I totally disagree with the reason, my issue with zone comes down to how annoying retake is on so many maps, a lot of time it come down to who charges specials faster and uses them better which isn’t fun to me, in comp it is better, but that’s the same for every mode, zones feels like it’s the most hurt by bad maps and that’s an issue.
This is my exact feeling. Losing a zone due to someone simply charging a reef/strike faster than you and then losing in overtime because of it is insanely frustrating, which causes me to hate zones the most when doing solo queue, especially in series.
Its basically even more annoying when you have to deal with two zones in some of the maps. I get they wanna make it different, sometimes it kinda gets annoying when you paint one, the other paints the other and just gets this cycle till you ether splat someone.
"MOM! IM ON TV!!!!"
- The Curling Bomb Guy
I agree with you. I'll throw a random curling it gets me a kill sometimes.
@@BrandonCrAzYyt Baked Curling Bomb on TC goes crazy when it falls off the tower
0:12 the bell and the direct is just…
👌👌👌
Hot take, the community has to come to the realization that there is only so much they as individuals can do to push the game to its fullest potential, how the game molds and the state it ends in when it stops receiving content or balance changes completely falls in the hands of Nintendo. Tournaments, usage rate, and casual play hardly matter to Nintendo, and we might never know the full extent of their logic as to why they do the things they do, all we get to know is what they share in patch notes
As much as this may be true, giving up guarantees that nothing changes for the better, while at least making your voice heard has the potential to do something
@@mangochkn again, it’s up to Nintendo if they want to listen. We can’t force them to do anything
Thanks for talking about my idea. I’ve seen people replying to my comment on the community tab, and I agree that the stage reworks of some of the lesser stages aren’t that great, and it’s a problem, but my mindset still stands, if it was actually done properly.
The only reason people complain about zones is because the sit in the zone half the time and never push up.
I hate zones because my team mates do exactly that. Exclusively.
Yeah if you spend all your time in mid, you're playing the mode wrong. Zones gives you the most freedom of movement since the objective completes itself.
@@syylent you should see all the people complain that you are more immobile in zones than any other mode. Its not likerm where you spam an area with bolbs or tv where you get snowballed
Not sure if this is a hot take but they should bring back Bomb Sniffer from Splatoon 1 and have it reworked as Sub and Special Sniffer. It would be able to mark and highlight bombs and other sub weapons like squid beakon, splash wall and point sensor from a distance and through walls. It could also mark and highlight special's like big bubbler and wave breaker in the same way. One last thing is the marker above the sub or special should be an image of it instead of a skull.
Yesyesyesyesyes!!!! I miss bomb sniffer so much😢
Yes i support any reasons to not have to use sj (which i dont like or find very helpful)
Cool for Solo BROKEN for Comp
Prob a headgear item as it would match with the “sniffer” part but you could put it on shoes if instead it would be called “tracker”
I don't see how that would be all that useful except for the ink mine sniffing. Enemy beakons can be seen from the overhead map, big bubblers can be seen from the same map, and big bubblers and wave breakers are pretty easy to see in normal gameplay. Also, things like splash walls aren't really that important to need to see through walls. And giving a player too much visual information by showing all of that stuff through walls could just overwhelm the player and clutter the screen.
Also, ink mine is already generally considered pretty weak. And you can detect them if you paint over enemy ink first.
That momentum idea is crazy I want that now
Its weird that you just lose speed mid air for no reason anyways instead of keeping the momentum you had regardless of the method used to get inertia
I still dont think the game is in THAT bad of a spot considering how bad other shooters are right now and how insufferable their communities are. And we get good singleplayer content & co op stuff. The whole painting thing still hasn't worn off as a very unique gameplay mechanic, i love it.
Also did you know that Foamstars came out? I didn't, its apparently lost 95% of its playerbase already. WOOMY ftw
My hot take is that no less than 80% of the walls should be paintable on *every* PvP map. This leaves room for exceptions such as walls for spawn not being inkable, but everything else should be paintable. That was where the first game had its core identity and it should be no less true here. Think back to something like the hot springs map I can't be bothered to remember the name of. There are so few paintable walls there that I genuinely see no reason for that map to exist. It is an absolute failure, in my opinion, of *Splatoon* map design.
this is a pretty cold take to be honest. even i, a lowly C+ player, have no idea what they were thinking with all the uninkable walls in this game hahaa
This is an ice cold take
I really just want a feature that lets you build a gear items stats normally, but lets you freely swap out what that gear looks like. You could still have different gears for different modes, but you can still have a dapper as hell outfit
Id rather they just lower the chunk costs to be the same as the splat fest tee but for all gear
So Layered Armor?
Terraria vanity slots.
would be nice for sure, but there is something funny about choosing gear for its abilities only and having a goofy ass outfit
@@freuner-merris EXACTLY
Keep your fit, but still have the stats you want
8:00 I can see where there coming from though with their take. They probably play solo q only, which is what I play the most, and from s tier down, people tend to stay in the zone the whole game when they have it, Whig would make the game feel like you only use the middle of the map
Sometimes i forget that zeekers is an enjoyer of splatoon content.
Sometimes they just pop up out of no where and in just left shocked.
My hot take is that Splatoon as a franchise would benefit from a single player focused spinoff - be that a survival shooter where you're gradually expanding your territory via inking and building a base that preserves your ink at night, or something more mechanically divorced from the core game experience but still building off of the ink based territory control concept - I think the ink concept would work really well in a tactical shooter such as X-Com or Mario + Rabbids.
Also that Salmon Run is held back by being a side mode rather than a spinoff since Salmon as a spinoff would allow the entire balance of the game be derived from Salmon's needs rather than being the side mode in a competitive shooter, side modes based around Salmon Run that aren't done as events, and so forth (and also a campaign mode devoted to teaching the fundamentals of Salmon would benefit... So many people who play Salmon Run. Even into low EVP there are still... Luring inconsistency... issues.
Chara did bring up the fact we have six weapons that lack their second kit. By technicality, there's eight, given the likelihood of a third Stringer and third Splatana.
I think he's pretty aware of this point
dropping a weapon and its second kit in the same update would be crazy
@@seabirdflutter that's why I think sizzle 24 it's not the Last season, even more if we know that ash found other 2 New MAIN weapons that are not stringer and splatana or related with the classes. Maybe drizzle 24 it's the real Last one, but we Just have to wait.
I entirely agree with the splatzones take. It’s my least favourite game mode by far. I know my word doesn’t count for much but the splatzones take is 100% correct in my book.
As a zones hater I agree with the static objective argument but have my own points to make. I think because of the horrible splatoon 3 map design most matches on zones just turn into "cap the zone and lock out the enemy team for the next minute", it's boring if I'm the one doing it and frustrating when it's happening to me. I think the game is at its best when a person is limiting their options in order to push objective because it creates an interesting dynamic, and at least in lower level play if someone's doing bad with their weapon they can just pick up the rainmaker or play tower duty and still contribute to the team.
I'm not that big of a fan of Zones, but not for the reasons presented in the video. The fact that it's stationary means it's simply a lot less fun than all other modes when one team has an advantage. If you can't advance, you have no choice but to sit there and wait for the timer to tick down, instead of the objective moving towards you and giving you a chance to participate. It's not a problem all the time, but when it is, it's not fun.
this is most likely due to more to map design than anything else. even when I was younger playing splatoon 2, I don't recall being as frustrated getting absolutely locked out of zones as much as in this game. it also works in reverse for me in clam blitz and rainmaker sometimes, when it feels like you're just out of options if the opponent is positioned decently enough regardless of their weapon picks
Yeah it’s the most consistent anarchy mode but also the least interesting.
@@madladmudkip9236 Yeah, that makes sense. I started with S3, so I don't know how it was like in the previous games.
It can indeed be frustrating to be completely wiped out in other modes too, but at least then it feels like you had no chance of winning. In splat zones, it can sometimes feel like it should be more of a contest than it actually ends up being. Shortly put, it feels like splat zones makes it easier to lock out with less of a skill difference.
I agree zones was much better in 2, but it was still the worst by far even then to me-that’s how bad I think it is lol.
The mode needs checkpoints or something-zones that you have to progressively move further into the enemy’s area to control to continue scoring. I think that would solve most of its issues that at least I have with it.
You absolutely should be pushing forward, to lock the enemy out and stop them from getting near the zone. The objective moves forward in the sense that the farther forward you can push and the more of the map you can control, the less likely the enemy is to be able to capture the zone.
i agree so bad with the last take, i feel like theres no splatoon game where they get everything right, they always fumble some aspects. and i think 3 is the most frustrating and dissapointing because they came so close to the perfect splatoon but actively decided to squander it with terrible maps
Yeah. And it's not like the maps are even interesting anymore
Back in Splatoon 2 I loved camp triggerfish because it was unique, even if it was kind of bad. They don't have any maps with unique terrain like that anymore except for robo Romen.
@@aTtsband even then ramen is nowhere near as different from the other maps in 3 as any two maps in 2 are from each other.
Zones is Suburbination from the Garden Warfare games, except youre not running around like an idiot trying to keep all your zones, only to get jumped by a Super Brainz.
Splatoon 3's update system gives me the feeling that they are procrastinating genuine issues and then they buff either by adding damage or lower the points needed to get a special. (My personal take for most shooters would be that a lot of problems would be fixed if almost all of them need 10p+ for specials yet they lower those too so I am quite unsure what they use as reference/reason to make some changes or don't change something.)
I personally hope my theory comes true and while we won't have content expansions like new Catalogs and Stages, we get a 3rd year of events as well as 3rd weapon sets which come in waves throughout a season.
7:00 I can see this take from an exclusively SoloQ perspective. From my experience, there is apparently some invisible barrier on the zone that prevents my teammates from moving across to the enemy side of the map. Very fun and not frustrating at all :)))
🔥Hot take🔥: The amount of content we're getting in Splatoon 3 and the amount of time it takes for another balance patch to come out would be completely fine if the devs just treated all the weaker weapons like Tacticooler. At launch, it was one of the weakest specials in the game. The devs stockpiled buffs onto Tacticooler every patch for the first 9 months of S3.
Really interesting to hear your thoughts on zones and playing outside the objective. Would love a full video on this
Zeekers being spotted goes crazy. Also, these were interesting takes to look at. Regardless of if they were good or not, they start some very intriguing discussion. My take on Squeezer sadly didn’t make it but it was much more of a rant anyway lmao
I didn't realize Zeekers played Splatoon, but it makes sense with how many similarities Lethal Company has with Salmon run.
Good job with the editing Logi
W video. I think you should make more of these videos but about specific things about the game like story mode specific hot takes or splatfest hot takes. Although I don't see much you can talk about, I just think it'd be cool, but it's your channel you can do whatever you want. You in no way have to.
Here's my take: Tri-Stringer actually has amazing painting utility in certain situations that I think most people don't fully realize. As long as you make a wide sweep with uncharged shots, you can create an absurd horizontal barrier or vertical enemy blockade in only a second. If people took advantage of this and if Toxic Mist got buffed to cover a wider area, Tri-Stringer would probably be taken a lot more seriously.
That being said, if it got either Drapid or Sbrella's kits, that would make it so much better on the offensive side.
New hot take, we should bring some chip from side order to the multiplayer game (obviously with nerfing them)
heres my hot take: Big Swig Express isnt a bad weapon, in facts its really good. In certain modes and maps where a lot of players are in one area Big Swig's huge area of effect and painting power is incredibly powerful, it deals a minimum of 40 damage at a pretty good speed. Also having the kit of dart and rain is amazing for it, like big swigs vertical flick, dart has a lot of range and it gets really easy to hit the dart due to it having a similar hitbox with Big Swigs vertical flick, and rain helps it control even more area than it already can. Sure the weapon can struggle getting its own kills but thats not whats its made for, its made for chip damage and stealing kills form your friends on the other side of the map.
fully customizable kits will *always* lead to the game being harder to balance.
In general, the more variables you can tweak for somethings power level, the easier it is to balance that thing. And the fewer, the harder
splatoon already struggles with this; if you wanted to nerf something like say, splash-o-matic, you cant nerf its burst bomb without hitting every other burst bomb weapon, you cant nerf its crab tank without hitting every other crab tank weapon. You can only really nerf the main weapon, and even that will have balance fallout for 1 other kit.
This would be even further exacerbated by full kit system removal, imo people would only ever pick the very strongest main weapons, and it would be very difficult to balance the remaining main weapons because they would a lot of the balance axes they had left.
this isnt to say the current system is ideal; actually its kind of a worst of both worlds situation right now, where nothing is exclusive enough to be easier to balance, but also theres a clear lack of variety in playstyles when it would be so easy to add more.
all im saying is that theres a cost to fully custom kits and i think it should be acknowledged.
YEEAAA THANK YOU!! At the end of the day, I just want the meta to be full of variety and options. Splatoon has several classes of weapons unique to it, like Rollers or the Splatanas, that I would hate to see just be outright worse than more conventional weapons (cough, dynamo)
9:34 i liked how they played lethal company music when zeekers showed up
Reposting my take from the community post cuz I feel like it's worth discussing
Angle Shooter/Line Marker is a good concept for a Sub and any buffs it gets should focus more on that concept than making it good in the same way as a Bomb
Rather than upping its damage or paint, drastically increase the distance it travels and make it so it bounces off or passes through players instead of stopping when it hits one, allowing for ricochet shots that can hit multiple people around multiple corners or even hit the same player multiple times
Also maybe give it a very loose homing effect (favoring bouncing in the direction of enemies) so you don't have to be a 7-head geometry whizz to have success with it
Love the video thanks for doing this
I gotta agree with the whole low tier weapons not being viable on the basis that it feels much more difficult to cooperate with teammates on the top of the solo ladder when playing an unpopular weapon. Of course there are top ten players that use my weapon but they have to play much smarter than anybody playing a meta weapon
I honestly don't think that such a take was a bad one. I think it has some merit, but not in the way they presented it.
For instance, there may be some weapons that, in theory, are better than the current meta if someone took the time to get really good with them. The problem is, the time investment is too great and would require taking time away that would better be spent practicing and getting better at what is already proven to be very good. In other words, the return on time investment for getting better at an off-meta weapon is lower than the return on time investment of simply practicing what is already meta.
Thus it appears as if those weapons are never tried.
8:27 I’m not a competitive player, but I still agree with this. While it is good to go for niche, off meta picks if it just hard counters a specific team or you’re just that good at it, it’s more reliable to play something you know works. If you’re able to play Sploosh to the level of keeping up at top level, play it at top level, but it’s gonna be a lot easier and more fun for you to switch to a similar weapon that is considered high or top tier, like a Splat Roller which shares the Curling Bomb and sharking playstyle while just being better. I enjoy Splatlings as my main, but if I’m facing someone who hard beats a Splatling, I might switch to another weapon I like that beats them better, like a Slosher, and when I use Splatlings, I’m using good ones like Ballpoint and Edit and not the ones that are weak like Hydra. Pick what you like, but also pick what actually works.
I don’t know how to balance this, but I feel like as soon as I encounter a shooter they look at me press zr and I die before I could react.
It could be a skill issue but it’s really infuriating to be playing a weapon with a high skill ceiling, such as new squiffer, and then a shooter looks at me and I die.
It's funny because I get a similar feeling with chargers. There's been so many times where I've visibly moved away from their weapon's pointer and still gotten splatted, even if I've moved behind a wall.
As far as advice goes though, what moment tech have you learned? Sub strafing is the only movement tech that I can't wrap my head around. That said I barely remember to squid roll and could definitely utilise it better as a movement tool. XD
@@ArtzyZero yes chargers also feel that way 100%. I feel like chargers have more skill behind them than shooter though, I don’t know. As for movement, I squid roll a lot and know how to sub strafe so 🤷♂️
@@Chuka_26 Oh definitely, as much as I might rant about what felt like an unfair Charger splat in battle, I've nothing but respect for playing the weapon class. I've tried using Chargers and I'm impressed with myself if I get one splat, haha!
As for movement though it sounds like you already do better than I can. I play Blob mostly which works nicely with Squid roll but doesn't have much main weapon strafing (since I can't do sub yet) but I often use bunny hopping when a weapon will allow it. Sometimes just running in a zig zag motion can throw people off too! I try to sneak in the ink to get the jump on players but often move too soon and get splatted. And when desperate sometimes I'll Squid flop to get out of enemy ink. XD
@@ArtzyZero😂
i honestly just don't like zones because my two favorite weapons don't have fun playstyles on zones. vanilla explo on brinewater feels like a purgatory sentence, and if you play explo, you'll probably match with another explo. so all you get is two backliners trying to out-paint each other with the exact same weapon and special, and that gameplay loop only ends when someone runs out of ink or someone gets flanked. it's terrible. i hate it.
on the other hand, i play both painbrushes, which are fun in theory. honestly though, if you want to play a weapon with fast kill time that can hit over ledges, you can pick a slosher or a blaster. both might have worse paint, but both are a lot more ink-efficient than pb and don't have windup.
Nah, gonna be honest I agree with the Zones guy for slightly different reasons. While the fighting does take place around more of the map than mid, the objective being static and stationary (outside of Bluefin) means that once one team wins said fight and has control, it leads to oppressive lockouts. With the other modes there is a chance to swing the momentum back in your favor, but in SZ, all it takes is a VShot, Gal, Squeezer etc. to hold you in spawn. And if you manage to get past them? Say hello to Mr. Eliter or Ms. Pencil who'll snipe you before you can even reach the zone.
Knowing Zeekers from back in the days of It Steals and The Upturned, seeing him slowly gain popularity, then seeing Lethal Company blow up was incredibly satisfying, but even having known he plays Splatoon I'd never have guessed I'd see him show up in a Prochara video, lol
The saying often goes that if given the chance, players will optimise the fun out of a game. Which I definitely think would happen if they added custom kits regardless of how they'd be implemented. That said I think custom kits could be fun in specific modes. Like Salmon Run, Private Battles or Challenges.
My hot take:
The Western competitive community has a bias towards viewing weapons with TC niches as bad, and weapons with CB niches as good or overtuned, even if the TC weapon gets picked outside of its mode niche more often than the CB weapon.
Salmon run player here, My hot take is that Ruins of Ark Polaris would have been awful if it returned without changes. But I am so glad that it’s core gameplay with the rails and tall middle returned and got reworked into whats now Bonerattle Arena. Ruins would have been an AWFUL Splatoon 3 map due to its sheer size making it a pain to survive on with more bosses spawning and higher quota compared to Splatoon 2. It’s nothing new but all of the Splatoon 2 SR maps feel bad in Splatoon 3 and Ruins is still no exception.
8:47 Finally seeing someone else acknowledging mechanics trumps all is nice to see.
Hot Take: The vertical and horizontal slash combo of splatana stamper shouldn't splat an opponent in a game where there are several other weapons like Undercover where they are so close to a damage combo but just don't get to it. Meanwhile Stamper gets a two hit combo that has good range, high speed, and feels extremely reliable.
I'd say that if there's a weapon that feels good to use in some regard, and another that doesn't, the solution should be to make the worse weapon more wieldy. If you just make the better weapon worse, then nobody wins.
@freuner-merris I win. I think Stamper is overturned. At least it's difficult to play, unlike another overtuned weapon (.52 Gal).
Hot take: Shooter privilege is primarily .52 Gal privilege. Go to inkpedia and look at all the buffs .52 Gal got, a weapon that was never bad in the first place
No they just need to buff undercover brella
So on the topic of zones
My actual problem with zones is that if we make zones the ONLY mode, the game is going to get stale at a competitive level.
Rotating modes is a very good system because it forces variety and creativity. Look at the competitive scene of TF2, the meta in competitive 6s HASNT CHANGED IN YEARS. Why? Simple, don’t fix what’s not broken. The 6s metagame has played 5CP and KOTH as static modes for the entirety of its lifespan, this has forced other strategies that aren’t very good on that mode but are on others completely out of the metagame making things such as spy useless. This is why people complain about 6s, it’s static and unchanging. Sure zones is the least chaotic mode and is far from the worst (IM LOOKING AT YOU TOWER CONTROL WHO’S EFFECTIVELY DIET RAINMAKER WITH A F**KING POLE). However I’d really like to see tri zone maps where holding 2 is considered a cap and 3 ticks faster, it would shake up the KOTH feel of zones and make it a bit more unique to play, just something a bit different. I personally think that modern rainmaker and clam blitz are great modes, plenty of variety plenty of options to play around and a unique take on dynamic objectives that force different kinds of team play(although every map should have at least 2 check points gotta have options) tower however is TOO static, it plays like rainmaker but it’s just not that deep as far as positioning is concerned and it ends up being really bland without the option to move more effectively on the tower or get on it easier. I personally think it would be better if the tower had more space to stand on, (like the one challenge they did) to add some depth to just standing on the tower it would fix all of the static feeling issues with the mode
@@shinyhero306people hate 6s because UA-cam man said 6s bad and that the elite group of comp players ruined tf2
@@HeDronHeDronHedron with all due respect did you read past the read more section? I’m saying it’s not very interesting to play in a static metagame. Not that 6s sucks sorry for using a half baked analogy lol. Also look in the mirror, what are you saying here? That has to be some very strong copium right there…
Nintendo, HEAR US. We don´t want another game as soon as possible. If you can, PLEASE, extend the content for this one another year and we can perfectly wait one more year for the next game.
PLEASE, SPLATOON 3 IS THE WORST OF THE 3 GAMES
New take incoming: I HATE how respect based this game feels, in regards to stuff like specials, some subs, some weapons... Feels like I'm constantly being displaced on the map since I have little choice but to respect so many things, instead of being able to contest them in a more nuanced power struggle.
A reality of making everything baseline "okay/good", which means Reefslider, Splashdown and Crabtank cancel don't feel as good as they used to/should since it's high risk and because I HAVE to respect it, oftentime little reward e.g. getting obliterated by the Splashdown fists even with a cancel.
Really wish there were more options for contesting, I loved Splashdown cancel in Splatoon 2 even as an inkbrush main!
A spinoff that focuses more on movement, and more interesting interactions across mains, subs and specials would be amazing, like a predominantly single player character action with a sprinkle of Jet Set/Bomb Rush/Tony Hawk/SSX, so we dont have to worry about balance and making everything baseline useable, and instead just FUN and DEPTH!
Ive said it before and ill say it again: splatoon 3 has the best base game in the series and the worst updates (relative to expectations)
Me personally, I agree with the big run take. I do like the idea of the MP maps being turned into SR. Puts a new perspective into each place everytime it happens. But with more Big Run. They could at least do it to each map once. And could have it happened at least once every other month keep it happening but not as much as splatfest.
To add on, more of a question really. What’s your hot take on the dualie squelchers? I main the vanilla squelchers and was wondering if anyone had any tips for abilities sets for them?
The worst part of this game is that so many of the problems would be hilariously easy to fix, to the point where the only logical explanation is that they don't WANT to fix them. Is there a reason they can't make another way to get Snails? Nope. They just don't feel like it. Fixing the fundamental problem with challenge schedules instead of just adding rotations? Nope. Remove the dumb walls that make Undertow 100x wor--- I don't even need to finish that one. Not actively going out of your way to butcher most returning stages? What game do you think this is?
None of that stuff is too impactful on its own but it adds up quickly with how many of these small QOL issues they are too stubborn to fix.
Tell me if im wrong or not but what i love about vanilla tri stringer is that i think its great to counter against e liters-chargers, it has a decent range without the sniper line thingy so you can snipe people off guard but what i find interesting is its combination of mist and killer wail, if you luckily place the mist, immediately use killer wail (in which it automatically does the aiming job for you, you can use it in any almost any position/range, and constantly chases them down so it pushes them away from focusing on their sniping position) meanwhile the mist slows em down enough to not dodge the wail fast enough, its just a cool strategy!
Playing vanilla Tri-Stringer as a counter-backline is really fun.
salmon run has been carrying splatoon’s 3 online scene, fight me
❗️(MY HOT TAKE) ❗️I don’t think anyone else has noticed this, but does anyone know that jellyfish at the top of the stairs in the lobby has nobody thought about how this dude could get a use in the next update I mean you gotta think about it like this. remember the table turf tables were up there, but they weren’t usable at the beginning of the game But then they got a use later on. the table, turf tables, and all the other interactive things in the lobby, have a yellow nameplate on the floor in front of them the locker room, the lobby terminal, grab and go where Judd lays even the DJ booth has an inkling language written that says DJ booth, but also that jellyfish has a nameplate on the floor and if you look at the counter where he’s making the coffee there it seems to be these packets that are color-coded, red, yellow and blue and my idea is maybe this could be a way we could have custom weapon kits so my hot take is it could be like crab and go but instead of abilities, money multiplier and XP multipliers you can just request to have a special attached to your weapon for a certain amount of matches and this could also go for subs to I mean what’s the point of even putting them there if they don’t get a use I mean imagine if Nintendo put the table turf tables up there but never gave us the option to actually use them now that would be just stupid also one more thing there could be a special animation when you’re character jumps out of the spawn point at the beginning of the match your weapon could flash and then have a steamy coffee effect so your team and foes know that you’re weapon has been modified maybe even the player icon in the top of the screen could show a little coffee steam affect coming off of it. Maybe the color of the steam depends on what special you have changed your weapon to have or sub I mean it’s not full out custom kits but you can customize your own kit and use it for just a little bit because I feel like having full out customization for weapons, like only having a select few specials and subs to choose between on one weapon would probably make people upset if their favorite special or sub wasn’t on their favorite weapon as an option this gives players a little bit more freedom with kit customization, I don’t know how it would work either having a ticket to be able to switch your special or sub or having to pay with coins I imagine it would only let the player use that customized weapon for only so many matches, and then the effect would wear off and return to normal there also could be a cool down between when they can customize a weapon so after they customized one and use it, maybe there could be a 1 to 2 day cool down before they can ask for another weapon customization just so you don’t join a match and everyone has got modified weapon and it becomes absolute chaos. (sorry if this comment was long) I just wanted to put my idea out there and prochara, if you read this and take my idea into consideration, that would be really really amazing
Sorry if my comments long, I just wanted to address some thing that I noticed and my idea on it
The part about splat zones being stationary I kinda agree with though... Imagine if say after enough time passes and a team has basically locked a splat zone down. It eventually says "New Zone" where it goes to a different part meant mainly as a means to give the other team a chance of a comeback
The ultimate hot take is that Splatoon 3, despite being fundamentally based on Chaos, is terrible at expressing that theme in its gameplay- specifically, its main gameplay mode. Splatoon 1 is a far better example of chaotic Splatoon gameplay- I'm one of the few people who played back when that game was still active, and I know firsthand from playing that game for basically its entire lifespan that it was exceptionally chaotic, in a very similar way to early Overwatch. Instant invincibility from Bubbler and Kraken were the most memorable examples of that, but there was also Killer Wail, which could have the impact of rendering effectively half the map inaccessible on stages like Port Mackerel, Inkstrikes, which could be used globally to similar effect, both of which weakened snipers dramatically through displacement; and, of course, literally everything had higher range then, making everything feel more impactful. In Splatoon 1, you could FEEL the range difference between Jet Squelcher and Splattershot in a way you simply can't after the Splatoon 2 range reduction. Even something as short-range as Carbon Roller or Luna Blaster was still long enough range to be a devastating force, and didn't rely on being literally on top of enemies to splat reliably. Splats happened more often, and the state of the match changed almost every single splat- at least, in mid-level play where I was- and that was what made it so good. But the series can never recapture that, because it places too much emphasis on competitive play to reach that level- that level of fluctuation in gameplay isn't sustainable for an organized competitive system, so modern Splatoon can't be like that, because of how objective-focused modes are so much more popular. Ironically enough, despite Splatoon 3 being fundamentally designed around Chaos, the gameplay is far more rooted in Order and structure than the game that originated it, which lacked that Chaos thematic.
Hot take. The closer we get to the end of Splatoon 3's lifespan (not holding my breath for a content extension) the more I feel like all of this could have just been done as updates and DLC for Splatoon 2. Huge remaster patch to put in the graphics engine Splatoon 3 uses, new stages, and the 2 movement abilities, as well as the weapon skins to make the alternate kits visually distict. The Splatsville hub and Return Of The Mammalians is included with the remaster patch but Inkopolis Square and Side Order are both paid like they are now.
Sounds a bit too much. That's like saying Ocarina and Majora should've been one game.
The problem with making it a Splatoon 2 update is the fact that 2 was beyond dead around 2022, so very few people would've cared.
I mean the video is called HOT TAKES. I just went full ghost pepper with mine. And Nintendo could have done a similar thing like what Sega did with Sonic The Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles' cartridges being able to link to each other with Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask.
@@MrEnzio777 makes sense, I suppose.
@@SaltyToad00Repurpose the ad campaign they used for Splatoon 3 as Splatoon 2 Remastered: Welcome To Splatsville.
They should add rocket jumping like in quake or tf2 but you do it with bombs. The only problem with that idea is that you cant do it on all weapon kits, but it is still a good idea.
Make bombs even better than they already are??
@@SilverRyuu yes thats true. but it's fun.
If you want a truly hot hot take:
Side Order is absolutely carried by the Chip mechanics, but even then it's almost as bad as Splatoon 2's base Hero Mode.
This isn't me being "Hate it to be unique lol", this is genuinely my opinion.
The level design in Side Order is mind numbingly bad, with very few acceptations (specifically Hazardous levels)
Story is bland and feels like they went one direction then backpedaled off a cliff with it halfway through development.
3 of the 5 modes are feel awful to play (the exceptions being Tower and Portal)
Dialogue and gameplay is way too repetitive.
The good elements are: The Color Chips and Animations. I disliked everything else in the campaign, it did everything Octo Expansion did but far worse (rewards included).
I am ready to be torn apart, but that is my genuine opinion. I was very disappointed when I finished Side Order, just left a massive "That's it?" aftertaste.
That. . .is an opinion. Trust me though, I've seen FAR worse.
As in, "Super Metroid is the worst Metroid" worse.
@@user-zw3on4bx2tlol so you saw arlo’s video too
But yeah agree with pretty much everything here. That and I really hate the roguelike aspect of it. I appreciate their willingness to change things up… but I hope they do it in a different way next time lol.
@@MKJBlewis I don't dislike that it's a rouge-like, it just does a terrible job at being a rouge-like.
I have such appreciation of his dedication to good content a d genuinly trying to spread information about splatoon and not just click baiting for veiws.
Splat zones is and has always been the best mode.
I think it’s really dumb that because of how slow the kits are rolled out, weapons like Dapple and Luna had all their kits done in 3 months, while range blaster and bamboo has to wait almost 2 years
4:26 I somewhat agree. Right now, I main NZap. As much as I love the versatility of the weapon, I wonder if there are more interesting utility/support weapons that are as good.
the catalogue completely ruined splatoon 3. it is trying to subsitute the lack of content per patch by making it a slow, boring grind just to get some clothing or emotes, where the clothes wont even appear in the shops in later patches (as far as im aware.), trying to force players to play for some limited time content wont work, nintendo.
9:40 lethal company jumpscare
ok but the zones is the worst mode take... like have they ever watched or even PLAYED splat zones?? 😭😭😭
Yeah one should not play on the zone, but even so I agree zones is the worst by far. I find it to be either boring or overly frustrating.
Would be much better if there were like checkpoint zones or something going further in over time.
I'm gonna leave my hot take here, I don't like brushes. They aren't fun to play or fight against. When you are fighting them it's very hard to see what to aim at bc all the ink their spreading. All it takes to be good at brushes is being able to click fast it takes no skill.
I hate zones mainly because its so special reliant, things like reef, tristrike booyah bomb make it unfun and all the dual zone maps are not fun to play either
I’m super casual and I can’t with trizooka, the amount of time I have been zooka’ed in the face with zero reaction time on my end is infuriating. Why can they special and instantly shoot?!?!?😢😢😢
IMO the amount of ink Curling Bomb consumes should increase the longer you charge it, so it uses the least amount of ink when used as a movement option while it uses the most amount of ink when charged up fully.
I'm still processing Zeekers being both a Splatoon fan and fellow furry
hot take: people complaining about small buffs to weapons is really annoying like let nintendo cook with the -4% shot spread buff
Is it wrong to like a vanilla weapon’s kit more than its second kit despite the 2nd one being better/competitively viable?
Me personally I like vanilla S Blast, I do play the 91 as well but I like how the vanilla has a sub to help it paint and to distract, and Reefslider is a fun special to use.
Why would it be wrong? Play whatever you like.
5:09 - this is the reason so many people think Goo Tuber is bad - it's a charger, so it should play backline. Honestly I think it plays really well in the current mid-range meta from the main weapon alone, with either sub really working well for it.
The problem is, the one time it was ever used competitively, it was solely a missile-spammer, and even then it was overshadowed by REEF-LUX. It hasn't gotten many changes aside from the UI change, so not many competitive players have given it a second thought. Having a high skill floor is a pretty big turn off for most, but I'd love to see more Squiffer players giving it a shot. It's a pretty solid aggressive charger and is the weapon I find the most fun to play.
I've seen a lot of them in solo queue ranked recently as well. I'm hoping other niche weapon picks get more players as well, as I think the game is the most fun with a little chaotic variety... As long as the matchmaking doesn't go putting all the backliners on one team, as it has been.
Slight correction: I don't mean it's just competitive players not considering niche weapons, I mostly play solo queue and I think most discussions put Goo Tuber low on the tier list. Solo queue has a lot of very same-y weapon choices, and it's because the meta they see is not the experimental stuff discussed in the video.
Really I think it's less of a problem in the competitive community and more in the highly invested casual community. The players that look at those tier lists and decide they should play the meta weapons instead of experimenting with their own styles.
I'll get off the soapbox now, lol.
5:24
Sidenote, can I just say that I *love* that expression from Chara? His avatar is the living embodiment of "But why tho?"
Loved Splat Zones in Splatoon 1 and Splatoon 2. I don’t know what it is about Splatoon 3 but, holy crap, I hate splat zones.
seeing zeekerss was a shock
Carbon has better max range (bursts help with this but the verticals do give it a higher damage range than sploosh can match), a more consistent midrange kill time, and most importantly the ability to fire over ledges and low walls. For carbon, ledges are a completely separate win condition that sploosh doesn't have access to. Need to consider that when saying sploosh is a "better carbon".
My hot take: Sprinkler needs 3 things just to get strong
1- Instantly paint the place it is placed
2- Explode if destroyed (burst bomb damage or less)
3- Being able to place at least 2
3:33 as a splatoon speedrunner thank u for the shoutout :3
You are so based for that Splat Zones take, thank you. Staying at the Zone(s) is one of the worst things you can do in that mode.
YEAHHHHH MORE 3RD STRIKE MUSIC
Very long hot take: While great in concept and a lot more fun in the short term, I don't think custom kits, or even mix-and-matching preexisting kits, would end up being a net positive for the game balance wise.
In theory, people being able to choose their subs and specials would encourage the devs to make more and better balance changes, as mains, subs, and specials would be able to be viewed standalone balance wise without being tied to their kits, such as Missiles not being too overpowered right now due to it being on no good main weapons except Diper. However, what the kit system really is is a band-aid solution for the developers so they don't have to make the game ultra balanced and can instead just get the easy way out, as if every weapon could pick its sub and special, then the meta would likely become Mario Kart in that everyone would use the same main, sub, and special that is ever so slightly better than anything else. The kit system prevents this by locking the best mains, subs, and specials to bad kits. Want to shark people with Cooler? Too bad, get Dapples Beakon lol. And if there does happen to be a broken kit combo, then there’s always the old reliable 210p that they use for every op weapon and Forge Pro. Because that’s the real threat to the meta, not vSplash. But unfortunately the reality is the Nintendo is Nintendo, and even if there were custom kits, balance changes would likely stay unchanged, which would just result in an even worse meta where everyone picks 160p Squeezer Burst Missiles. In a perfect world, every main, sub, and special would have great synergy with one another and be perfectly balanced, with the only differences being playstyle due to strengths and weaknesses. But we don’t live in that world, especially with Nintendo on the wheel, so I think the current system is the best it’s gonna be without a major change in perspective from Nintendo as a company.
With all of that said though, there absolutely should be more kits. Having so many specials is fine for the game as long as there are enough kits for them, which there aren’t, and it’s frustrating to be forced to play a weapon you don’t like just to be able to enjoy one of the newer specials, even if it does sometimes result in finding a weapon or playstyle that you enjoy, although that could easily be done in other ways. Also that's the bare minimum, if you're gonna have set kits then at least choose fun ones with synergy.
Seeing the creator of Lethal Company show up in this video made me do a double take lmao
BRO im in the thumbnail 😳
I think it’s funny how I submitted a mellow take about Nintendo being biased in favour of shooters and some guy just comes along and states that shooters should be removed. What a chad.
I'll take a better product over "better for what the game needs" any day. I love Side Order but it was under baked.
5:09 Here's a hot take: A lot of casual players like to excuse themselves behind potential or top players being stubborn when really they should learn that when a weapon is called bad it's not an attack at them and is being rated purely objectively on performance.
My thoughts on that final take are, yeah it's definitely the most frustrating, but it's still the best game in the series
2:20 YES PLEASE give me more Big Runs
the zones subject i would like to agree on ithe fact that i like the idea of the zone being harder to control for the closer you get to knockouts is a point that i have thought a lot about myself, its just that i find myself getting annoyed that i cant get any kind of advantage to come back on a mode like zones where i do on the other modes because it is just that much easier to stop someone when you have the ground and spawn time advantage.
HOT TAKE for next time: I think the tower routes are waaaaaaay too small and that getting far in them isnt even much of an achievement. i think they should be extended so that it takes a lot longer to push the tower forward and make it harder to achieve victory by knockout. Also with these longer routes, they could make the tower visit more parts of the map because some sections just get really left out by most players and you really dont get to take advantage of each of the unique positions for defending.
ANOTHER HOT TAKE: this links to my last one is that, aside from blitz, i think its too easy to get knockouts now. ive played this series for a long time now and i find myself getting bored from getting knockouts or getting knocked out. it should be harder to achieve in order to promote longer games. I dont know what to do with ship shape rainmaker, but other than that i think that all modes could be altered to make knockouts feel more rewarding.
FINAL HOT TAKE: Chara vids are really entertaining and Chara is a cool guy
I agree with all this lol.
Zones needs checkpoint zones I’d say-zones further into enemy territory you have to control in additional to the middle zone to continue scoring. It would make it so th have to come to you instead of it being so easy to lockout and spawn camp as can be done now.
And yeah I’ve always thought tower paths are too short but I’ve never seen anyone else say that lol. They only to like half way into the enemy spawn area, which can make it very challenging to come back sometimes I’d say as even after you respawn you have a ways to go before you can contest… similar to zones.
@@MKJBlewis legendary name