This video makes my stomach Cringe! Throttle happy MoFo's. Let the old girl warm up. People like you that gave the triples a bad reputation for blowing up!
@@emfelling8384 omfg i am crying, what the hell are they doing!?!? i have run my 1997 800 for 30000km over 15 years and NEVER HAD a single problem! shouldn't have sell it for 1500$ 5 weeks ago :(:(
I got me a 90 articat prowler and i prop it up in jack stands and when i get it started i rev it to 2000 rpm for abt a min then i get the clutch engaged and i keep the track moving for another minute and it works every time she warms up nice
not cubic inch lol.. cubic centemeter. Wow let the poor thing warm up before you ride like that... definetly needs new plugs and carb tuning... should start wayyy better than that.
That engine is actually a type 809, displacing 796cc. Lots of guts...almost 160hp. Watch that PTO bearing. They were bad for burning up for lack of oil. Always loved the looks of the '97. Used to have a '97 Mach 1. Also a powerhouse.
Couple of geniuses!! Good thing you take care of your stuff .....🙄. ( mower sitting outside in the snow) Just shut that cold motor off right away, after you barely got it running.....try the choke maybe?? Battery powered vehicles were definitely invented for people like you !!! 👍
Will Mihailoff The Sled Shouldn't of took this Long to start Id probably take the carbs off and Give them a Good cleaning and Fix Your Choke Lever so it properly gives it the right amount of fuel when starting cold. My F3 Starts in 3-4 pulls. also Let the sled Run for 5-10 minutes before riding it like that.
We are planning to clean the carb. The choke lever is a tad loose so maybe that does need adjusted as well. And we usually are very careful with our sleds, like i said i have an old yamaha phazer II in perfect shape and starts right up every time i try it. This was a one time video.
Im Not saying your Beating on your sled im just saying it could use a Nice cleaning and Tune up. and doesn't matter the length he's going let it warm up make a long vid then edit
Some people are just strait assholes..vids are helpful..ya def let it warm up and check out those carbs..mach z's fucking rip..oh and every now and them if u still got it..check your oil pump cable..mine got loose and went all crazy
Im about to tear up the sound the poor old girl maked she was cold she needs to warm up and how long after this video did cold seizure finally take her life
Good thing about my triple is that it won't move until it's warm I'm glad it's that way so it won't break anything and hurt the motor. And anyways for the triples if u don't let it sit and warm up the motor will get hot and the coolant is still really cold and will crack the motor
Gotta love the carbs pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling lmao Had a triple formula remember it well you’d be sweating like a wild man but it was worth it when she fired lord have mercy would be cool to put an efi mod on one
15 degrees F and lower full choke, 15 degrees and higher half choke, usually no more than three pulls (old man) two pulls (young man). 2000 FormulaZ 600 twin. No primer.
Such a legendary machine, but man ! 10 minutes to warm up at least. Mine has a temp gauge and I don't move it till it's warm. Man that poor sled! Didn't notice how old this video was but if it's older then 2yrs....that sled is done. Sigh..
LOL I sold a mint condition AC mountain cat 800 2003 with 1200kms on the sled and motor. Drop it off to buddy and I started it up for him and I told him come usually I give it 10 mins like to warm up or the heat exchanger are hot to touch then she goo………… all I heard was “BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP” and the sled wasn’t moving much and I run back and shit it off immediately… talkinh to him “ I thought you were walking with me!!!!!” Him “Um nook sled might get hot” I was like NOOOOOOO… but he gave me the cash and I help him load it up and left.
I don't recall what you've got in the primary for ramps now, but my '00 Mach Z had 295's in it now. The '97 Mach Z had a fairly low engagement RPM. For shorter distances, you might like the 286 ramps. Combine that with a fresh green/blue primary spring, a set of adjustable pins with about 18.5g in them and a fresh secondary spring set at about 18-20lbs. You should come out of the hole then at about 4,200RPM. Make sure clutch bushing, rollers, slides, etc are in good working order. Can't stress that enough. 90% of your performance is found in the clutching. Who knows what the previous owner did, or didn't do to it?
clutching for low end power doesn't make sense with this Z. It was designed for 8000-8500rpm (8600 w the right crank bearings/mod). It's made to spin like a rotax, not a lumpy 4 stroke with gobs of "low end. See that's the trick Andrew, a two stroke triple needs to "spin". Also, this is why triples are known for kicking the shite out of two lungers after 105mph because they get spinning and have long legs.
i’ve got a vmax 700 and grew up on a venture 600, both redhead triples. Best part about them, they told you when they weren’t warm. Not with a light or sensor, but if you tried to move you could just tell. Always gotta play with the throttle a little while it’s warming up, if they go below 3,000 rpm after the cold start they won’t run right. My dads done it this way since he bought the venture new in 04’ they’re both rippers. venture has 4,200 miles and vmax had 12,000
Why keep flicking the choke on and off..?? FULL CHOKE UNTIL IT STARTS!!!!! And that should only take 3-4 pulls in cold cold temps if carbs and plugs are right.
first thing is definite starting problem, second is 20 something degrees is not "cold " for a sled and third, seems like two stroke know how is lacking, are you from Florida LOL
These are the kind of guys that wear Velcro shoes lol
They be like yo . my sleds faster than your 2016 550 with a 144
🤣they can probably count to potatoe
Straight up…! Friken the white new balances and Dinosaur t shirts
The same guys that don’t let a sled warm up trying to wreck the engine
@@JayAR_YT anything from 2004 newer looks like something from Mars
This video makes my stomach Cringe! Throttle happy MoFo's. Let the old girl warm up. People like you that gave the triples a bad reputation for blowing up!
AMEN morons not letting a big triple warm up!!!
@@emfelling8384 omfg i am crying, what the hell are they doing!?!? i have run my 1997 800 for 30000km over 15 years and NEVER HAD a single problem! shouldn't have sell it for 1500$ 5 weeks ago :(:(
Jesus christ start it up and go I guess,no warming up,
I got me a 90 articat prowler and i prop it up in jack stands and when i get it started i rev it to 2000 rpm for abt a min then i get the clutch engaged and i keep the track moving for another minute and it works every time she warms up nice
@@austinlongdick2645
I have two zrt I let
Them warm up
My wife and I are switching to four
Stroke. Next year
We are done with two stroke.
not cubic inch lol.. cubic centemeter. Wow let the poor thing warm up before you ride like that... definetly needs new plugs and carb tuning... should start wayyy better than that.
Lucas Johnson thought the same thing😂
They don't put the cc on the end for nothing.
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The kind of people that don't have a sled for long
next day.. Kijijji add *1997 Ski-Doo Mach Z 800 for sale. starts first pull. babied the machine. let it warm up 20 mins every start*
this is worse than animal cruelity.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
It didnt want to start cuz it knew what was coming
Yea it's been abused so many times now it bitches 😂
She knew she wasn’t going to get a chance to warm up
ALWAYS give your sled 10 mins to warm up!
7 minutes or just a bit longer, I give mine 10-20 minutes especially in severe cold weather
I GIVE HIM 10 TO 15 MINUTES TO WARM UP BECAUSE IF YOU DO NOT WARM UP HIM YOU CANT BLOW UP YOUR ENGINE EASLY
Idk what y’all are on about I start mine loosen it up and take off, I’ve never had a problem lol
Wow, who not to buy a sled from
@@ianchambers9103 10 minutes is fine dummy
Gonna cold seize it driving it like that..
That's cruelty to snowmobiles
That engine is actually a type 809, displacing 796cc. Lots of guts...almost 160hp. Watch that PTO bearing. They were bad for burning up for lack of oil. Always loved the looks of the '97. Used to have a '97 Mach 1. Also a powerhouse.
No doubt, 97 era tough looking sled.
Couple of geniuses!!
Good thing you take care of your stuff .....🙄. ( mower sitting outside in the snow)
Just shut that cold motor off right away, after you barely got it running.....try the choke maybe??
Battery powered vehicles were definitely invented for people like you !!! 👍
Bud it’s not even a mower and it has a plow on it it’s meant to be in snow💀
25 years later still a monster
Good way to 4 corner scuff a piston here.
ever hear of choke or primer?
That's that little black switch thingy that flips down right?
Will Mihailoff The Sled Shouldn't of took this Long to start Id probably take the carbs off and Give them a Good cleaning and Fix Your Choke Lever so it properly gives it the right amount of fuel when starting cold. My F3 Starts in 3-4 pulls. also Let the sled Run for 5-10 minutes before riding it like that.
We are planning to clean the carb. The choke lever is a tad loose so maybe that does need adjusted as well. And we usually are very careful with our sleds, like i said i have an old yamaha phazer II in perfect shape and starts right up every time i try it. This was a one time video.
Im Not saying your Beating on your sled im just saying it could use a Nice cleaning and Tune up. and doesn't matter the length he's going let it warm up make a long vid then edit
Gotta love the sound of triples.
I do want to thank Sean, Lucas and gearbanger for the helpful info. Atleast you three sound mature and sincere. That is always welcomed .
Some people are just strait assholes..vids are helpful..ya def let it warm up and check out those carbs..mach z's fucking rip..oh and every now and them if u still got it..check your oil pump cable..mine got loose and went all crazy
That guy is in serious shape 💪
Lmfao
Im about to tear up the sound the poor old girl maked she was cold she needs to warm up and how long after this video did cold seizure finally take her life
Nice sled! Always been a fan of the old triples! Sounds a little rough tho
It sounds rough because the idiots didn't let it warm up
How about letting it warm up a bit before any throttle .. 30 sec and your off ! 20sec and you hit the throttle ..dang
What's up with the way he's pulling the cord never seen anyone do that 😂
Sounds awesome!
Good thing about my triple is that it won't move until it's warm I'm glad it's that way so it won't break anything and hurt the motor. And anyways for the triples if u don't let it sit and warm up the motor will get hot and the coolant is still really cold and will crack the motor
Sounds like a piss poor design.
Certainly not idiot proof. . . . .
@@fjb4932 when these were made most people weren’t idiots
23 pulls later.... time to check carb boots!!!
Mine starts in 2 to 4 pulls.. but I use my choke..🤣
I'd be doing a complete look over of that whole fuel system
My soul hurts for that sled right now. Let it warm up
Way to hammer on it when it's cold!!
That's a good way to score your cylinder walls. Punching it when it's cold. Causes things like...low compression. 🤔
It doesnt look like it has very good compression in the video
Dude....you're killing it. WTF!?!
Had a 1996 FIII, what a sweet little triple triple. Have to say, like my 850 Etec a little more. 😂
that pooor sled!!!!!
Wow that starts great.......
🤣🤣🤣
That engine sounds pretty bad ass
What sleds should I be careful with?
Sounds good a mach z 800 built up here in Quebec will run good at -20c
It’s a cool old sled but you will never ride drunk cause you’ll burn off any buzz just trying to start it.
804 cubic inch? 😂, and also just blasts away with it being super cold I'm amazed you didn't drop a couple plugs.
The old mach z's are bad ass the shape of em and you can really build them things up but even stock they hall ass
Poor sled hope it has a better future
What a piece
What ah piece!
Badass on my list
Listen to that growl of that monster triple
Drop a bit of oil in each cyclinder before a cold start it'll make it way easier to get compression.
Good vidéo
May want to get it a tune up.
My sled warms up for 10 min before I do anything!
We have a good mechanic down the road. I'll stick with him.
Try just ever so slightly cracking the throttle always helps me out
This why they call them ski DONTS
Wow 3 pulls and it should start
Give it at least 10 minutes to warm up
Was that with a choker or primer?
Mine always started on two to three pullls maybe too rich or weakk coil
i got a tip for you
choke on
key off
choke on
pull two times
then key on
then pull
Yep, it's cold.
Still freezing cold after struggling to start and cranks on it lol.
Gotta love the carbs pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling lmao
Had a triple formula remember it well you’d be sweating like a wild man but it was worth it when she fired lord have mercy would be cool to put an efi mod on one
Shit they were fast and sound nuts
804 cubic inch with a pull cord 🤣🤣🤣. I think you mean cubic centimetres my friend lol.
Well it's a good thing you let it warm up lol
What a cold never I mean never see. Anything like it lol
Gearbanger, it's engaging at approx 4200 rpms. I'd like to try and get it around 2500 if that is even possible
2500? Oh no. That simply won't do at all. You re turning it into a fair cheeked school girl machine. Lack of insight.
15 degrees F and lower full choke, 15 degrees and higher half choke, usually no more than three pulls (old man) two pulls
(young man). 2000 FormulaZ 600 twin. No primer.
I'm a Ski doo fan but that sounds like crap.
Skidoo 151 That's what I'm saying
Is the chocke broken or what?! 😅
I like how compact that sled looks I could ditch bitch hard on that just like 1982 eltigre 6000 my last sled Goodluck happy trails
Wow.. take it in to give it a tune up
I thought them old skidoo had a primer
Such a legendary machine, but man ! 10 minutes to warm up at least. Mine has a temp gauge and I don't move it till it's warm. Man that poor sled! Didn't notice how old this video was but if it's older then 2yrs....that sled is done. Sigh..
I’m effn dying here
Did you even turn the key and pop the choke holly shit my mxz 800 twin on the coldest day could start 3rd pull no problem
LOL I sold a mint condition AC mountain cat 800 2003 with 1200kms on the sled and motor. Drop it off to buddy and I started it up for him and I told him come usually I give it 10 mins like to warm up or the heat exchanger are hot to touch then she goo………… all I heard was “BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP” and the sled wasn’t moving much and I run back and shit it off immediately… talkinh to him “ I thought you were walking with me!!!!!” Him “Um nook sled might get hot” I was like NOOOOOOO… but he gave me the cash and I help him load it up and left.
Got some low compression on that. Time for rings at least. Never start a sled and take off like that. Needs to warm up for min 5 min at least.
There goes plugs
no wonder it takes twenty million pulls to start you never let it warm up
Mason Wengeler you still have to let the damn thing warm up before you go ripping around on it
Ever heard of warm it up?
Wow
Leave it alone it doesn't want to start because you beat the shit outta it
Me and that thing soon be separated it was mine and it started that hood.
Frostbite? You mean an ice tan
cold start it then turn it off thats nice let it HEAT UP
beater
Fucking big block baby. Just loads of compression 🤣
Where is the pto barring? Was thinking of changing clutch for low end power. Don't have enough room to run 100 + around here. Any suggestions?
I don't recall what you've got in the primary for ramps now, but my '00 Mach Z had 295's in it now. The '97 Mach Z had a fairly low engagement RPM. For shorter distances, you might like the 286 ramps. Combine that with a fresh green/blue primary spring, a set of adjustable pins with about 18.5g in them and a fresh secondary spring set at about 18-20lbs. You should come out of the hole then at about 4,200RPM. Make sure clutch bushing, rollers, slides, etc are in good working order. Can't stress that enough. 90% of your performance is found in the clutching. Who knows what the previous owner did, or didn't do to it?
***** he should have stock 286 ramps in that.
clutching for low end power doesn't make sense with this Z. It was designed for 8000-8500rpm (8600 w the right crank bearings/mod). It's made to spin like a rotax, not a lumpy 4 stroke with gobs of "low end. See that's the trick Andrew, a two stroke triple needs to "spin". Also, this is why triples are known for kicking the shite out of two lungers after 105mph because they get spinning and have long legs.
Let it warm up though man.
U guys no there is no SNOW running it.
If that was my 700 triple sx viper it would have immediately roasted the plugs. Also I would never do that to my sled because I love it
i’ve got a vmax 700 and grew up on a venture 600, both redhead triples. Best part about them, they told you when they weren’t warm. Not with a light or sensor, but if you tried to move you could just tell. Always gotta play with the throttle a little while it’s warming up, if they go below 3,000 rpm after the cold start they won’t run right. My dads done it this way since he bought the venture new in 04’ they’re both rippers. venture has 4,200 miles and vmax had 12,000
Why keep flicking the choke on and off..??
FULL CHOKE UNTIL IT STARTS!!!!!
And that should only take 3-4 pulls in cold cold temps if carbs and plugs are right.
Thats the 809 not an 804 read the motor tag
Pull it like you have a pair
Hot video! I wish I could lie down beside it and inhale the awesome fumes when you cold start and rev it worm :)
cold start then then take right off, wtf are you thinking???? best way to score up the cylinders and have a cold seize ......
but i will say its a nice sled
She starts right up eh??
I need the pipe brother
You have to prime it
first thing is definite starting problem, second is 20 something degrees is not "cold " for a sled and third, seems like two stroke know how is lacking, are you from Florida LOL
my yamaha vmax sx 700 starts in 6 pulls on a cold start when its like -5
and it sounds better NOT STOCK