Here in Brazil our Tiguan has a slight edge over that over there, our engine is actually the EA888 from the GTI with a little lower adjustment: 230hp and 260ft lbs torques.
I looked at a RAV4 last week and today looked at the Tiguan.. to me the VW looks a little better and felt more refined, also the leg room in the back seat was much better.. both pretty cool cars for what they are.
Todd Ullmann I drove Rav-4 several times and wasn’t sold, drive the VW and drove Tiguan and bought it after a quick test drive! I agree with your opinions. I got the SE FWD in Titanium Gray with black leatherette. No regrets. It even has a CD Player in the glove box!! I with the front center armrest was sliding and had adjustable ratchet height option and I wish it was a bit faster off the line. But I’m very happy.
The tiguan also supports some aftermarket support such as ecu tunes, etc. if you want more power... I agree that it depends on your lifestyle and from my perpective I think the Tiguan's classy look and refinement would attract me more
Twisting Terrain which 4Runner? What Year? It was no 1 on my list but I’m not even gonna drive it if it’s crap on the highway. I don’t expect an Audi, but it’s got to be reasonably okay on the road.
Test drove both on the same roads. Tiguan has by far better steering and handling, almost car like. RAV4 handled like a truck. I was far less confident on the RAV4 and constantly kept trying to correct steering input because suspension in fast corners just would not settle. Also RAV4 transmission liked to downshift too much. Tiguan is a great commuter for traffic because the transmission utilizes its torque in the lower to mid RPM range. Ended up buying the Tiguan. Comfortable in normal/heavy traffic and confident maneuvering in it.
Originally Body-On-Frame was the money maker and marketed as toughness, but strategy regrouped under the Unibody structure to emphasize Third Row Seating and the lovable All Wheel Drive system. Crossovers maintained the traditional SUV shape and appeal, especially by including luxury items previously featured on the larger heavier platform. Despite their structural differences, over time the general public would refer to both of these configurations simply as SUV’s.
Had to buy a car and had a budget of $15K. Bought a 2011 RAV4 Limited and didn’t hesitate. With 156K it’s still a very long life ahead of it. Not a spot of rust. Reliability may not sound sexy but my Rav’s previous owner loved his trade-in value when he traded it for the new 2019 RAV4.
i own a 2018 tiguan sel premium and i use all seasons in the snow and the awd is a beauty! if i slip by a few centimeters, i get put back on track immediately.
@@nadjibnadjib9833 Been driving a 2018 Tiguan Highline, It's average about 10km/ltr on 70/30 Hwy/City. It takes regular gas. I find it pretty satisfied.
"Simplicity, reliability, that's why you buy a Toyota"... Maybe, but I had my 2009 Tiguan for the last 7 years and besides tyres and pads and fuel, didn't spend a dollar on it. Just bought a 2019 model after driving several Japanese cars including a RAV4 - it's like comparing chalk and cheese. The finish , the ride, the turbo torque, the solid build feeling, that's why you buy another Tiguan!
I tested both cars the RAV4 in the Hybrid (4X4) version and decided on the RAV4 for the economy quietness in city driving also the near instant power feel of the electrical motors and was cheaper and will last forever or as my wife say i will decide to change cars again even if i don't need to
I like the look of the RAV4 but I think it age badly, the Tiguan is understated but will last. The VW build quality seems more refined so it's the VW for me.
Liked for the intro 👍🏻 Edit: regarding the sunroof you mention at 12:03, you actually can get a pano roof on the Rav but it’s only offered on the highest trim (Limited.) The 360 cam is only available on the Limited as well. Why those options aren’t available on the adventure trim is beyond me since adventure has the best color/wheel combo.
What is nice about the VW is that it looks like a more premium product rolling down the street. You also don’t see as many on the road so they stand out more vs the sea of RAV4s. I own both an new VW atlas and a Toyota 4Runner. Both great vehicles with completely different missions. I took a leap of faith with VW but with the warranty and how we keep our cars about 7-8 years it should provide a trouble free experience.
All I see are Tiguans with their yellow old fashioned non-LED lights. I barely see any of the new RAV4's. Tiguans are selling at $4000 discount because nobody wants old fashion styling and the front end looks ugly to me.
Volkswagen always makes faultless ergonomics, you can never complain about their quality, handling,comfort, and practicality, while Toyota makes the most reliable vehicles in the world and some of the most fuel efficient. I would take the Tiguan in a heartbeat.
I’ve had the 2019 Tiguan for 2 years now and I can say no problems at all. And the power is good I don’t think it’s slow whatsoever. It’s very reliable.
@@ic_gaming849 lol 2 years, try keeping it for over 10 years. I have a beater 2011 rav4 which I bought for 4k with 100k miles, it now has 180k and have just replaced a hub bearing, spark plugs, and new oem ignition coils. Has never had a check engine light on, still going strong, it’s the base silver trim. Replaced the stock muffler with a turbo muffler to give it some deep sound.
Good review ! I drove the Tiguan as a ZipCar for a while. It was probably a base level car but it had good ride and nice interior quality, what I really didn't like was the engine/transmission. It felt so sluggish, not even slow but just unresponsive. If it had a better engine/transmission like the EU specs it would be so much more desirable. CX-5 is still the king for now.
Instagram fans picked the Toyota due to its much higher reliability rating. The Tiguan (a portmanteau), on the other hand, is in a higher class than the Rav4, and was actually introduced as a fully capable off-road compact SUV. Arguable, the most capable in its class. It came with a skid plate and more off-road tuning.That earlier version however, was discontinued due to lack of interest in North American. As for the crease, it is a styling cue to give the car a little less height, so it doesn't look like the side of a barn. Fit an finish and interior is a specialty of the VW Group they are the best in the industry. As for the car being similar I'm not sure how. Perhaps if you drove the cars more aggressively or pushed them closer to their limits (think autobahn), the difference would become more prominent. How confident would you be in the Rav4 at 110mph? Also, the VW has the more refined -- near luxury -- interior. Even the plastic is a better grade. The Rav4 makes no pretense about its purely utilitarian nature -- orange rubber? Anyway, the third-row seating in the VW is perfect for an additional pair of small kids.
Good review. would of been better to compare the top trim Rav4 since you had the top trim Tiguan. Rav4 in Limited trim looks drastically different inside and out.
@@chernowitz Choosing the RAV-4 over the Tiguan is a good financial decisions. Because if you are buying anything in this class,mind as well is reliable,but if you want something more exciting get a luxury SUV then.
I love what Toyota is doing with there vehicles these days. They are finally putting style and passion in its lineup AGAIN. There are far more Toyota models I would consider driving today than just four five years ago. It appears that finally Toyota is putting some real value into inspiring design from the top all the way to the bottom of the fleet. The luster has returned and I am excited about the future of the industry.
@@Didi78180x yes, I agree but all gas models Rav4s since 2014 are equipped either with a CVT or a manual for the European market. You can choose a diesel one which has a 6speed auto and the Hybrid with eCVT. I was referring to the gas models equipped with a CVT. I know a few people that one such vehicles and they still run like new. They told me to change the transmission fluid every 35-50k miles to keep the trans fresh.
I love both cars but ended up with the RAV4 w/AWD. The gas mileage is phenomenal, reliability is top notch and the high resale value just did it for me.
Coming from a Mercedes-Benz S-Class, I found the Tiguan to be a great car and I really like it. However, I ultimately chose the RAV4 Adventure/Trail, especially given my current special situation. Despite the high price of Toyota, which isn't fully justified except for its reliability, I needed a car that I could depend on, and Toyota delivers on that front. While German cars are generally superior, they require frequent servicing, which Toyota does not.
Tiguan definitely!!!!! Much more premium and nicer. More torque. More classy.. Q5-esque... More features.. Oh yes!! 1. Tiguan 2. Honda CRV 3. CX 5 or Rav 4
@@sneakersonfeet9045 no it’s not since almost all cars are reliable for the first 5-6 years and most people that buy new don’t keep them for more than that. What about performance, handling, tech, interior design, exterior design, practicality etc.?
I've got a 2019 Tiguan, the back seat room is enormous however I'd skip the option for the 3rd row seats cause they would be tight to fit in even for little kids.
orphanedhanyou if you look at other reviews you would see in the 2 row version especially that the Tiguan has the bigger and more comfortable second row.
Something to note about the Tiggy- Eco/comfort mode really dulls the throttle. Sport mode feels much better for power delivery. Honestly, for the average joe, the power is good. For Auto Journalists who drive BMWs and Alfa's a bunch, it feels slow, but thats a matter of perspective.
Tiguan for me... However, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking about reliability... I'm thinking about maintenance cost... I believe Tiguan's made in Mexico and the transmission is from Japan... Not sure about the engine... Hungary?.. Toyota's RAV4 is fine... It's a Toyota... It's probably going to be more reliable than the Tiguan... However, the interior of the Toyota is not going to be the reason why I'd buy it... I'll look into the Mazda CX-5 and the Honda Passport too... Nice review... Thanks!..
Really well done. The format and presentation is very informative and engaging. Very enjoyable to watch and very informative. Great vibe. Next time I shop cars, I'll definitely search your content first.
To the English guy (excuse me for not knowing his/your name, I was only recently introduced to this channel) : your pronunciation of Volkswagen is really good. Only remark would be that the V is pronounced as the English f (as in fire)
It all depends what your priorities are, the Tiguan is the best looking suv on the market, and of course toyota has the best reliable cars, looks or durability, Comfort but not as durable or not that great looking but pretty sturdy car, talking about the look of the interiors of course, since the outside purely depends on each person
@René oo People who buy Toyota's! Plus, you can save even more money because you can pass it down to your kids, knowing they will be in a safe and reliable car.
You guys ahave the coolest reviews out there with out a doubt. I never comment on anything but I have to comment because you guys are killing it with the extra humor and roll playing at the beginning of some videos or throughout the video. The videos are informative in every way. Your reviews are what really helped me decide about my next car wich I am purchasing a BMW M2 in February!Keep up the good work!!!!
I picked my Tiguan up a few days ago, before that I had the kuga, and I’m shocked at how much more powerful the kuga was. I’m struggling to get used to the slow pull away speed at roundabouts. Nice car in every other way though.
Love the video. I bought a 19 RAV4 but I really liked the Tiguan as well. I found the VW was more of a drivers vehicle, but, I was not buying a small SUV for ripping around speed racer style. I don’t think you can go wrong with either of these SUVs :)
Funny I am in the market for a used vehicle and it's in between these two . I gotta say that the prices on the Tiguan are at minimum a couple grand cheaper than the Rav4 for any model year in the late teens. They are so close performance wise, I do like the interior better on the Tiguan and at that much lower price the vw is the winner.
I have the 2019 Tiguan and not as fun to drive as my old Tiguan but it's ok. I'd rather have the Rav honestly but the Tig I picked up at about 5k less than the average Rav4s around me. Tiguan is a pretty nice driver experience, not thrilling at . . . all. . . but nice. Smooth and quiet at highway speeds even in the 70mph range.
I don't understand why they de-tuned the engine from the 210HP of the old one. We had a 2012 Tig in the top trim and it was pretty fine but could have done better. Detuning was in the wrong direction. Didn't get a new one. Moved on from VW entirely.
Patrick Sullivan Because the old Tsi is gas guzzler that requires premium fuel for the compact suv that is the size of subcompact. New Tiguan is almost two-Tiguan of old plus 20 more torque will make big size suv easy to tow plus terribly fuel efficient as the result of miller cycle. Some people are reporting 30 mpg beating epa easily.
People who are pro-Toyota RAV4 talk about reliability etc but those who are pro-Tiguan really LOVE the car! Also, I have to say I don't understand people trashing VW reliability. My ex-wife still has a 2004 VW Touran 2.0 TDI DSG that we bought from new which has done (so far) 500,000 km without major problems. I am the proud owner of a 2021 Tiguan which looks so much classier than my neighbours' Kia Sportage and Toyota RAV4. First annual service cost the equivalent of $250 at the main dealer which is very reasonable. It's nice to have choice but for me the VW Tiguan is the real deal in this segment. You can have a Toyota or you can have a VW member of your family that will also last you for years with styling which is ageless.
My Toyota reliability was poor reliability. Fiction. Three cars, poor reliability. I did like how the 2005 RAV 4 drove with a stick. Too bad the engine went, water pump went shocks went, clutch slave went - all before 3 years/ 60K miles.
guzi965 ok you got a view I have my own What does race has to do with a car? Are you blindly racist ? If I was hitler I would have burned your ancestors
About steering feel in Tiguan, you can adjust that with either sport mode or Individual mode, it can feel very tight if you like that. Also the R-Line gets you much more than you stated, lower sportier bumpers, Wheels, sport suspension, interior details etc (It´s VW version of BMW M-sport). Want a more RAV-4 like ride, get a Tiguan without R-Line.I own a Tiguan R-Line w. 190hp TDI, DSG, White. I´m very satisfied with it. If you´re going for R-Line and like the Visual appearence, go with a Bright color, this make the Visuals stand out more. R-Lime It´s very good looking in White and optional 20 inch Wheels. The one in the test has standard R-Line 19 inch Wheels.
And you will be 100% sure that Toyota will not try to cheat you in any way with CO2 emissions. So you will not end up with a nerfed engine three years later.
Sounds like you got burned. We don't do emissions in Florida so other than contributing to greenhouse gasses that pollute the air and cause the temperature of the planet go up every year, we were largely unaffected by that whole thing.
@@Zogin_EPICH At least they admitted it. Other companies have done the same thing. Ford is being sued right now for it. I'm sure if you do the research Toyota isn't innocent either.
This discussion is ridiculous. If you're leasing for up to 3 years, it doesn't much matter. If you're buying "long term" the Toyota wins every time. Much better reliability and resale value. Look at any 10 year old example of a higher mileage Volkswagen vs a comparable Toyota. That's where you'll find the real deal.
Are you guys aware that this dynamic torque vectoring system (RAV4) makes a very loud “clank,clank” when it disengages itself in normal and eco mode? If you own an adventure or limited model RAV (2019 model) you will hear this (as you brake and are coming to a stop at around 18-20 mph in a relatively quiet neighborhood or environment) if you roll down your windows (noise can’t be heard with windows up). I’m disappointed to say the least and really hope that Toyota will address this and find a fix.
I love Toyotas! They are extremely reliable. My 2010 Corolla S still drives like new with 400k. 2007 Rav4 Sports V6 with 180K, and 2008 FJ Cruiser Trail Teams with 230k. All original powertrain. Had to change wheelbearings, brakes, alternators (FJ and Corolla) which would be considered regular wear and tear and then the regular oil change. And that’s it. Still drives excellent. Very cheap maintenance. High mileage on the Corolla because it is cheaper on gas compared to the Rav4 and FJ. The Rav4 V6 is what my wife drives so it’s lower in mileage in spite being a 2007. FJ is the most fun to drive off-road and during winters.
@@johnlawrence1950 I know plenty of people who have VW’s and have no issues, but mine was just a problem child, one problem after another. The rear main seal went, and then I somehow had a bent head gasket, and then the air to fuel mixture started to become too lean so it wouldn’t run as efficiently as it should have, and then sometimes it would just randomly go into “limp home mode”. If you do decide to get one, make sure you get a warranty, for the love of everything that is holy. Mine might have been just an anomaly, but it’s worth getting that extra coverage.
@@johnlawrence1950 if you’re buying a new one you should be fine reliability wise for the next few years at least. I think that “diesel gate” era of VW was just a bad point in terms of reliability.
Scotty Kilmer gave a nice comparison of German vs Japan cars. German car is made like M16, precise, does it job very well...Japan is like AK47, not so accurate, but robust. However when it came down to durability and reliability, theres just one outcome winner. M16 / German cars are build perhaps to precise, which leaves little room when something goes wrong / M16 as soon as a small stone came into a gun, it stopped functioning, while AK47 just simply WORKED!
why would you pick a vehicle in which you can't see the display? Which one has the better lights? I wish all car reviews would put more emphasis on that...
The reason they are not doing that is probably because it is highly regulated how the lights of a car are supposed to be. Its like saying which has the better brake
If you're going to do a critique on a car's exterior at least run it through the car wash on the way to the filming. We can't determine much through all the dirt and snow slush. As for the looks, the RAV4 looks more utilitarian -- tool box pretty. While the Tiguan is more of a precision instrument design. The RAV4 looks more trendy, but its looks will go out of style a loot sooner than the VW. BTW, no discussion of utility (other than the third row), such as charging ports, seat adjustments, etc. I also could help but notice the Fender audio logo on the VW door.
A Short Wheel Base European spec Tiguan SEL with all extras fitted - HUD, 360 camera, memory leather seats, beige interior, pano-roof, Side Assist, Outdoor Pack, digital dash, ACC, LED headlights lights, 240 bhp diesel, 7-speed DSG, adaptive adjustable suspension (DCC), quiet, smooth, comfy ride, good-looking car. No blank switches, about the same price as sparse spec Q5...
+sic22l - don't understand! Just like the RAV4? Perhaps you mean just like a 3008! Except 3008 doesn't have a HUD, a very good 360 cam, a beige interior option, adaptive suspension. (But I like the 3008). Yes, crossovers are expensive! Cheers.
I have a 18 Tiguan and I love it, I drove it to Rhode Island from Toronto and I got alittle over 850km to a tank, and it dosent require premium gas! Which is shocking because it's a turbo. One feature you guys missed is that you can put the map In the gauge cluster and shrink the tach and speedo. Otherwise great review!
Can we all take a second to appreciate the time it must have taken to park those cars that close?
I would never think of putting comedic intros in a car video but you know what, it works!
Keep it up guys. Thumbs up.
Here in Brazil our Tiguan has a slight edge over that over there, our engine is actually the EA888 from the GTI with a little lower adjustment: 230hp and 260ft lbs torques.
It honestly has the same engine it's just detuned to lower octane fuel
The North American Tiguan also has the EA888. It is just detuned. With the right software, one can tune this engine to push those numbers
I looked at a RAV4 last week and today looked at the Tiguan.. to me the VW looks a little better and felt more refined, also the leg room in the back seat was much better..
both pretty cool cars for what they are.
Todd Ullmann I drove Rav-4 several times and wasn’t sold, drive the VW and drove Tiguan and bought it after a quick test drive! I agree with your opinions. I got the SE FWD in Titanium Gray with black leatherette. No regrets. It even has a CD Player in the glove box!! I with the front center armrest was sliding and had adjustable ratchet height option and I wish it was a bit faster off the line. But I’m very happy.
The Tiguan has a full panoramic and the RAV4 has a regular sunroof
The rav4 will likely be on the road for much longer
@@jonlosito2004 the rav also has a pano sunroof, on the limited trim
Tiguan has no power to do accelerations! If you like a slow crossover, Tiguan is the one for you!
The tiguan also supports some aftermarket support such as ecu tunes, etc. if you want more power... I agree that it depends on your lifestyle and from my perpective I think the Tiguan's classy look and refinement would attract me more
Tuning would be amazing. It would be, but the transmission isn't as strong as a DSG. I wouldn't feel safe pushing stock torque converter.
However, you do get the dsg in European markets and with gti's but for tiguans sake ya don't.
How much more power we talkin
@@ikhoonyejelem2967 stage 1 apr tune maybe around 230 hp and 260 torque
Stage 2 or 3 close to 300s
Stock VW cars are themselves unreliable and fall apart, now if you tune these it'll get worse.
Just bought the RAV4 and love it thus far. Handles the snow and mountains no problem. Much easier to drive on the highway than our 4Runner
Twisting Terrain which 4Runner? What Year? It was no 1 on my list but I’m not even gonna drive it if it’s crap on the highway. I don’t expect an Audi, but it’s got to be reasonably okay on the road.
@@code23hyper44 It feels great on long road trips when it comes to comfort, it doesn't jostle with the suspension, although wind noise is a bit loud
Excellent introduction! Looks like a scene in a movie. You're clearly taking the cinematography seriously.
Thomas has a cinematography background I think
Just traded in a 2017 golf Alltrack for a new 2019 Tiguan 5 seater and absolutely love it but it needs an ECU re map to wake up the sleepy engine😉
Haha wonder how much power they make after you flash tune them
@@mariorojas2126 APR is quoting about 220 WHP and 270WTQ on 93 octane!
Straight up the BEST intro of any of your intros. Much love from an hour down the road.
Test drove both on the same roads. Tiguan has by far better steering and handling, almost car like. RAV4 handled like a truck. I was far less confident on the RAV4 and constantly kept trying to correct steering input because suspension in fast corners just would not settle. Also RAV4 transmission liked to downshift too much. Tiguan is a great commuter for traffic because the transmission utilizes its torque in the lower to mid RPM range. Ended up buying the Tiguan. Comfortable in normal/heavy traffic and confident maneuvering in it.
Almost car like? Gosh and my dumb ass thought they are both cars...
I look at car / motorcycle review EVERYDAY, and I've never seen this channel before. Why?
Originally Body-On-Frame was the money maker and marketed as toughness, but strategy regrouped under the Unibody structure to emphasize Third Row Seating and the lovable All Wheel Drive system. Crossovers maintained the traditional SUV shape and appeal, especially by including luxury items previously featured on the larger heavier platform. Despite their structural differences, over time the general public would refer to both of these configurations simply as SUV’s.
Had to buy a car and had a budget of $15K. Bought a 2011 RAV4 Limited and didn’t hesitate. With 156K it’s still a very long life ahead of it. Not a spot of rust. Reliability may not sound sexy but my Rav’s previous owner loved his trade-in value when he traded it for the new 2019 RAV4.
You have shortsleeves on in the snow, while i'm down here in Georgia wearing 5 different layers in 30 degree weather.
How is this channel this unpopular? You guys deserve a million views and a million more subs!
Its proportional to Thomas' popularity with the ladies.
@@jamesengelsman9369 lol
@@jamesengelsman9369 🤣🤣🤣👌
Tiguan hands down ❤️ Add a APR Software update & exhaust 👌
i own a 2018 tiguan sel premium and i use all seasons in the snow and the awd is a beauty! if i slip by a few centimeters, i get put back on track immediately.
I just bought a silver Tiguan SEL R-Line. We liked it better than the Rav 4. More options for better price
Does it cost alot of fuel i like the tiguan but i want it to be ecomonic
@@nadjibnadjib9833 Been driving a 2018 Tiguan Highline, It's average about 10km/ltr on 70/30 Hwy/City. It takes regular gas. I find it pretty satisfied.
"Simplicity, reliability, that's why you buy a Toyota"... Maybe, but I had my 2009 Tiguan for the last 7 years and besides tyres and pads and fuel, didn't spend a dollar on it. Just bought a 2019 model after driving several Japanese cars including a RAV4 - it's like comparing chalk and cheese. The finish , the ride, the turbo torque, the solid build feeling, that's why you buy another Tiguan!
I tested both cars the RAV4 in the Hybrid (4X4) version and decided on the RAV4 for the economy quietness in city driving also the near instant power feel of the electrical motors and was cheaper and will last forever or as my wife say i will decide to change cars again even if i don't need to
I was not able to find any deals on the RAV4 Hybrid, so I went with a Tiguan SEL Premium 4MOTION. I will say, the RAV4 Hybrid drives a lot better.
@@kyrees.williams869 i agree with you why i was ready to wait nearly 4 months for the RAV4 hybrid delivery
I like the look of the RAV4 but I think it age badly, the Tiguan is understated but will last. The VW build quality seems more refined so it's the VW for me.
Liked for the intro 👍🏻
Edit: regarding the sunroof you mention at 12:03, you actually can get a pano roof on the Rav but it’s only offered on the highest trim (Limited.) The 360 cam is only available on the Limited as well. Why those options aren’t available on the adventure trim is beyond me since adventure has the best color/wheel combo.
Ah, it looks like Canada doesn't get that option. Apologies! And lucky for you guys
No panoramic roofs in Canada due to limitations of the Canadian factory. 360 camera isn’t available here either but am not sure why.
I LIKE how you compare two cars! Not a boring one.
What is nice about the VW is that it looks like a more premium product rolling down the street. You also don’t see as many on the road so they stand out more vs the sea of RAV4s. I own both an new VW atlas and a Toyota 4Runner. Both great vehicles with completely different missions. I took a leap of faith with VW but with the warranty and how we keep our cars about 7-8 years it should provide a trouble free experience.
I see plenty of Tiguan and atlas’s now
I have not seen the 2019 RAV4 on the road yet. I do see a lot of Volkswagen Tiguans.
All I see are Tiguans with their yellow old fashioned non-LED lights. I barely see any of the new RAV4's. Tiguans are selling at $4000 discount because nobody wants old fashion styling and the front end looks ugly to me.
How long did you own the Atlas before it wouldn't start?
Not the first video to watch for accurate information on these cars, but I like them. Good Job!
Volkswagen always makes faultless ergonomics, you can never complain about their quality, handling,comfort, and practicality, while Toyota makes the most reliable vehicles in the world and some of the most fuel efficient. I would take the Tiguan in a heartbeat.
Good luck! You will need it (that comes from a german. So trust me)
@@VampirusX the new one is pretty reliable
I’ve had the 2019 Tiguan for 2 years now and I can say no problems at all. And the power is good I don’t think it’s slow whatsoever. It’s very reliable.
@@ic_gaming849 lol 2 years, try keeping it for over 10 years. I have a beater 2011 rav4 which I bought for 4k with 100k miles, it now has 180k and have just replaced a hub bearing, spark plugs, and new oem ignition coils. Has never had a check engine light on, still going strong, it’s the base silver trim. Replaced the stock muffler with a turbo muffler to give it some deep sound.
1. which one depreciates faster? 2. reliability? 3. three to five years maintenance costs?
The RAV4 suspension is stiff, but it handles high loads without a problem.
I personally enjoy the firmer suspension, but it's of course, personal preference
Good review ! I drove the Tiguan as a ZipCar for a while. It was probably a base level car but it had good ride and nice interior quality, what I really didn't like was the engine/transmission. It felt so sluggish, not even slow but just unresponsive. If it had a better engine/transmission like the EU specs it would be so much more desirable. CX-5 is still the king for now.
I went with the Tig SelpR. Lovin’ it. We also have a golf r and Jetta, ❤️
dub love
Instagram fans picked the Toyota due to its much higher reliability rating. The Tiguan (a portmanteau), on the other hand, is in a higher class than the Rav4, and was actually introduced as a fully capable off-road compact SUV. Arguable, the most capable in its class. It came with a skid plate and more off-road tuning.That earlier version however, was discontinued due to lack of interest in North American. As for the crease, it is a styling cue to give the car a little less height, so it doesn't look like the side of a barn.
Fit an finish and interior is a specialty of the VW Group they are the best in the industry.
As for the car being similar I'm not sure how. Perhaps if you drove the cars more aggressively or pushed them closer to their limits (think autobahn), the difference would become more prominent. How confident would you be in the Rav4 at 110mph? Also, the VW has the more refined -- near luxury -- interior. Even the plastic is a better grade. The Rav4 makes no pretense about its purely utilitarian nature -- orange rubber? Anyway, the third-row seating in the VW is perfect for an additional pair of small kids.
Good review. would of been better to compare the top trim Rav4 since you had the top trim Tiguan. Rav4 in Limited trim looks drastically different inside and out.
I think the Toyota is a better choice.
better quality
The Toyota is good, but if looks and feels like a utility vehicle. I'd get the Tiguan, it drives better and it feels more premium.
@@eddgrs9193 Buy a Tiguan if you don't care how much time it spends in the shop. P.S. Plus, the resale value is pretty bad.
If you like an appliance not an SUV than yes Toyota is the better choice. And you get lots of plastic plastic trim. Not to mention the hideous design
@@chernowitz
Choosing the RAV-4 over the Tiguan is a good financial decisions.
Because if you are buying anything in this class,mind as well is reliable,but if you want something more exciting get a luxury SUV then.
Why does the North America Tiguan have the lowly base 184 hp and no GTI 228 hp like the International Tiguan version?
Heh love these intros every time, but the cinematography is also great.
Yep, took the advice and looked at the Mazda Signature. It won me over. The fun of the VW with the reliability of the Toyota.
I daily drive a 2018 Tiguan. It's fun but the steering is not as good as the previous gen
I just purchased the VW Tiguan Premium and love it, the white interior and everything is so audi like(luxury)!
I love what Toyota is doing with there vehicles these days. They are finally putting style and passion in its lineup AGAIN. There are far more Toyota models I would consider driving today than just four five years ago. It appears that finally Toyota is putting some real value into inspiring design from the top all the way to the bottom of the fleet. The luster has returned and I am excited about the future of the industry.
Watching this in my new TH hoodie. Perfect timing! Thanks guys. I know it’s plain as F but I like the Tiguan
I have a Tiguan and I love it! Tiguan from here on out!
Ok, don't tell anyone, just one small tip: Go to APR tuning and get Stage 1. It would boost Tiguan from 184 HP to 295 HP ;-) Just pay $1000.
Does it void the warranty?
@@triggerxx9760 Yes, it does not, maybe.
Even the CVT Rav4s in Europe are all still on the road. The AWD system is glorious. It does miracle's if you give it a chance. Solid build vehicle.
CVTs are not well-perceived in Europe.
@@Didi78180x yes, I agree but all gas models Rav4s since 2014 are equipped either with a CVT or a manual for the European market. You can choose a diesel one which has a 6speed auto and the Hybrid with eCVT.
I was referring to the gas models equipped with a CVT. I know a few people that one such vehicles and they still run like new. They told me to change the transmission fluid every 35-50k miles to keep the trans fresh.
I love both cars but ended up with the RAV4 w/AWD. The gas mileage is phenomenal, reliability is top notch and the high resale value just did it for me.
Coming from a Mercedes-Benz S-Class, I found the Tiguan to be a great car and I really like it. However, I ultimately chose the RAV4 Adventure/Trail, especially given my current special situation. Despite the high price of Toyota, which isn't fully justified except for its reliability, I needed a car that I could depend on, and Toyota delivers on that front. While German cars are generally superior, they require frequent servicing, which Toyota does not.
Tiguan definitely!!!!! Much more premium and nicer. More torque. More classy.. Q5-esque... More features.. Oh yes!!
1. Tiguan
2. Honda CRV
3. CX 5 or Rav 4
Crv cant offroad as good as tiguan. Youd pay so much for a honda but still with awful!!! lacklustre plastics
“Only for people who you’re willing to sacrifice their legs.”
“Like children!”
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I'd get the Rav4 on the reliability alone. That thing will last 20 years if you want it to. Also I'm digging the tacoma front end styling.
But if you don’t care about reliability the VW is better in every way.
@@kristians2704kind of an oxymoron, Reliable in the end is the most important thing!
@@sneakersonfeet9045 no it’s not since almost all cars are reliable for the first 5-6 years and most people that buy new don’t keep them for more than that. What about performance, handling, tech, interior design, exterior design, practicality etc.?
I have this model Tiguan!! If it's too slow for you, get the APR stage 1 tune. Game changing.
I can't believe you guys did not show the back seats of these cars. Honestly, people buy these cars for roomier back seats.
Especially because I think the tiguan would lose that category, it has the old school bump in the middle still.
I've got a 2019 Tiguan, the back seat room is enormous however I'd skip the option for the 3rd row seats cause they would be tight to fit in even for little kids.
orphanedhanyou if you look at other reviews you would see in the 2 row version especially that the Tiguan has the bigger and more comfortable second row.
Something to note about the Tiggy- Eco/comfort mode really dulls the throttle. Sport mode feels much better for power delivery. Honestly, for the average joe, the power is good. For Auto Journalists who drive BMWs and Alfa's a bunch, it feels slow, but thats a matter of perspective.
Tiguan for me... However, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking about reliability... I'm thinking about maintenance cost...
I believe Tiguan's made in Mexico and the transmission is from Japan... Not sure about the engine... Hungary?..
Toyota's RAV4 is fine... It's a Toyota...
It's probably going to be more reliable than the Tiguan... However, the interior of the Toyota is not going to be the reason why I'd buy it...
I'll look into the Mazda CX-5 and the Honda Passport too...
Nice review...
Thanks!..
Sales will tell what matters to people most.
and globaly the Tiguan outsells the RAV4. It's only the US who for some reason keep buying these outdated Toyotas and Hondas.
Have a look at the RAV4 doing the Moose test, you will make up your mind immediately!
Really well done. The format and presentation is very informative and engaging. Very enjoyable to watch and very informative. Great vibe. Next time I shop cars, I'll definitely search your content first.
To the English guy (excuse me for not knowing his/your name, I was only recently introduced to this channel) : your pronunciation of Volkswagen is really good. Only remark would be that the V is pronounced as the English f (as in fire)
Yay! Thank you.
Mh the new RAV design doesn’t really appeal to me anyone feeling the same way ?
The old one does?
It all depends what your priorities are, the Tiguan is the best looking suv on the market, and of course toyota has the best reliable cars, looks or durability, Comfort but not as durable or not that great looking but pretty sturdy car, talking about the look of the interiors of course, since the outside purely depends on each person
Tiguan will age much better in terms of styling. Both interior and exterior.
SeductiveYeti congratulations with your Tiguan
but will age worse in terms of reliability and therefore long term economy
@@Flysohigh18 who is planning on keeping a car for more than10 years??
@René oo People who buy Toyota's! Plus, you can save even more money because you can pass it down to your kids, knowing they will be in a safe and reliable car.
And much worse in terms of depreciation
Got the RAV4 hybrid XLE for 31.5k otd. Pretty happy with purchase so far
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If you plan on keeping your suv for only 4 years you can buy the Tiguan. If you plan on running it 6+ years the answer has to be the RAV4
@Aleksandar Ninković I know how bad VW is when it comes to reliability over the years..
@Aleksandar Ninković ran a Golf 5 TDI but it breaks more often and costs more to repair than a Toyota.
@Aleksandar Ninković i drive it the same way as our Toyota and that never breaks (have it for 5 years now, 10 years old car)
I bought Tiguan TDI 4 Motion last month I love it
The Tiguan looks just like the Audi but 15K cheaper
Reliable and expensive service. Also I would get RAV4 hybrid 41 mpg and faster too
You guys ahave the coolest reviews out there with out a doubt. I never comment on anything but I have to comment because you guys are killing it with the extra humor and roll playing at the beginning of some videos or throughout the video. The videos are informative in every way. Your reviews are what really helped me decide about my next car wich I am purchasing a BMW M2 in February!Keep up the good work!!!!
Hey - I think the new 2022-2024 Tiguan deserves a review on your channel! Cheers
I'm actually thinking of buying a rav4 myself
Why do reviewers say refresh when it’s built on a completely new platform?
I picked my Tiguan up a few days ago, before that I had the kuga, and I’m shocked at how much more powerful the kuga was. I’m struggling to get used to the slow pull away speed at roundabouts. Nice car in every other way though.
If you were the too tune it the the same power as the gti it would be allot better
A man in a t-shirt in a car during winter is the most Canadian thing I have seen in a while.
Love the video. I bought a 19 RAV4 but I really liked the Tiguan as well. I found the VW was more of a drivers vehicle, but, I was not buying a small SUV for ripping around speed racer style. I don’t think you can go wrong with either of these SUVs :)
Funny I am in the market for a used vehicle and it's in between these two . I gotta say that the prices on the Tiguan are at minimum a couple grand cheaper than the Rav4 for any model year in the late teens. They are so close performance wise, I do like the interior better on the Tiguan and at that much lower price the vw is the winner.
I have the 2019 Tiguan and not as fun to drive as my old Tiguan but it's ok. I'd rather have the Rav honestly but the Tig I picked up at about 5k less than the average Rav4s around me. Tiguan is a pretty nice driver experience, not thrilling at . . . all. . . but nice. Smooth and quiet at highway speeds even in the 70mph range.
I don't understand why they de-tuned the engine from the 210HP of the old one. We had a 2012 Tig in the top trim and it was pretty fine but could have done better. Detuning was in the wrong direction. Didn't get a new one. Moved on from VW entirely.
Patrick Sullivan Because the old Tsi is gas guzzler that requires premium fuel for the compact suv that is the size of subcompact.
New Tiguan is almost two-Tiguan of old plus 20 more torque will make big size suv easy to tow plus terribly fuel efficient as the result of miller cycle.
Some people are reporting 30 mpg beating epa easily.
People who are pro-Toyota RAV4 talk about reliability etc but those who are pro-Tiguan really LOVE the car! Also, I have to say I don't understand people trashing VW reliability. My ex-wife still has a 2004 VW Touran 2.0 TDI DSG that we bought from new which has done (so far) 500,000 km without major problems. I am the proud owner of a 2021 Tiguan which looks so much classier than my neighbours' Kia Sportage and Toyota RAV4. First annual service cost the equivalent of $250 at the main dealer which is very reasonable. It's nice to have choice but for me the VW Tiguan is the real deal in this segment. You can have a Toyota or you can have a VW member of your family that will also last you for years with styling which is ageless.
RAV-4 is so good it immediately became the benchmark. Add looks to Toyota reliability, and Toyota is the choice for 100% of people.
My Toyota reliability was poor reliability. Fiction. Three cars, poor reliability. I did like how the 2005 RAV 4 drove with a stick. Too bad the engine went, water pump went shocks went, clutch slave went - all before 3 years/ 60K miles.
100% of people? Lol. So no one is buying the Tiguan?
@@sandyshoremann7524 I guess all that happens because of the driver
@@baseline4102 Yeah the driver. Its a real data point not some guys fantasy.
Adam J also... Forester? Most Canadians do enjoy a good Subaru.
Tiguan all the way
My dad has it for 9 years now
Amazing car
Not problematic and very powerful
guzi965 ok you got a view I have my own
What does race has to do with a car? Are you blindly racist ? If I was hitler I would have burned your ancestors
RAV 4 All Day! Would wait for Canadian models to get the panoramic roof though...
Like my 06 rav 4
This review brought us to change our mind about the rav 4 and to purchase the Rline sel 4motion
Bonatno how do you like it? Thinking about it as well.
New rav front end has classic Land cruiser looks. Almost looks "not new"...... I like
How I like the Land cruiser better it dosent look anything like a land cruiser
About steering feel in Tiguan, you can adjust that with either sport mode or Individual mode, it can feel very tight if you like that. Also the R-Line gets you much more than you stated, lower sportier bumpers, Wheels, sport suspension, interior details etc (It´s VW version of BMW M-sport). Want a more RAV-4 like ride, get a Tiguan without R-Line.I own a Tiguan R-Line w. 190hp TDI, DSG, White. I´m very satisfied with it. If you´re going for R-Line and like the Visual appearence, go with a Bright color, this make the Visuals stand out more. R-Lime It´s very good looking in White and optional 20 inch Wheels. The one in the test has standard R-Line 19 inch Wheels.
The intro was so funny😂😂👌
That intro lol, you guys never fail to make me honestly laugh 😆
25 percent less fuel usage wins points for RAV4
And you will be 100% sure that Toyota will not try to cheat you in any way with CO2 emissions. So you will not end up with a nerfed engine three years later.
Sounds like you got burned. We don't do emissions in Florida so other than contributing to greenhouse gasses that pollute the air and cause the temperature of the planet go up every year, we were largely unaffected by that whole thing.
@@Zogin_EPICH At least they admitted it. Other companies have done the same thing. Ford is being sued right now for it. I'm sure if you do the research Toyota isn't innocent either.
@@Zogin_EPICH you have that wrong. The only one that cheated was the American governmemt cheating thr people out of great fuel economy
@@terranceparker1929 i think you need to go back to science class. Measly vehicle emissions are literally a fart in the wind
Love my 2019 Tiguan!!
Revenge of the Sith is great though!
Is it tho? IS IT.
Jordi T. / careful with these sequels fan, they get offended easily 😉
This discussion is ridiculous. If you're leasing for up to 3 years, it doesn't much matter. If you're buying "long term" the Toyota wins every time. Much better reliability and resale value. Look at any 10 year old example of a higher mileage Volkswagen vs a comparable Toyota. That's where you'll find the real deal.
Drove the RAV. Hard acceleration will blow your ears. Loud
Ever heard a 'Cuda' with Glass Packs!!!!?????
Are you guys aware that this dynamic torque vectoring system (RAV4) makes a very loud “clank,clank” when it disengages itself in normal and eco mode? If you own an adventure or limited model RAV (2019 model) you will hear this (as you brake and are coming to a stop at around 18-20 mph in a relatively quiet neighborhood or environment) if you roll down your windows (noise can’t be heard with windows up). I’m disappointed to say the least and really hope that Toyota will address this and find a fix.
Tiguan my car
I think the 3rd row is making me lean towards the vw more.
Tiguans 3rd row is marketed for children only. It is very small. The atlas has a full third row with plentiful space.
Liked, subscribed, hit the bell, watched the video 5 times from different IPs and devices, watched all ads and bought a new Subaru. Quality!
Drinking game when they say "honestly"!
Great Review I have a 2018 Tiguan and Love it
I love Toyotas! They are extremely reliable. My 2010 Corolla S still drives like new with 400k. 2007 Rav4 Sports V6 with 180K, and 2008 FJ Cruiser Trail Teams with 230k. All original powertrain. Had to change wheelbearings, brakes, alternators (FJ and Corolla) which would be considered regular wear and tear and then the regular oil change. And that’s it. Still drives excellent. Very cheap maintenance. High mileage on the Corolla because it is cheaper on gas compared to the Rav4 and FJ. The Rav4 V6 is what my wife drives so it’s lower in mileage in spite being a 2007. FJ is the most fun to drive off-road and during winters.
Milage meand means nothing. Its all about years and engine hours. There are tons of 06 and older american cars running like new
I had a 2010 tiguan, it was a mechanical nightmare, very lucky to have gotten rid of it when I did
Hello 👋
I want to buy a Tiguan 2021 SEL 4motion. What do you think about it?
Could you please write your opinion?
Thanks
@@johnlawrence1950 I know plenty of people who have VW’s and have no issues, but mine was just a problem child, one problem after another. The rear main seal went, and then I somehow had a bent head gasket, and then the air to fuel mixture started to become too lean so it wouldn’t run as efficiently as it should have, and then sometimes it would just randomly go into “limp home mode”. If you do decide to get one, make sure you get a warranty, for the love of everything that is holy. Mine might have been just an anomaly, but it’s worth getting that extra coverage.
@@johnlawrence1950 if you’re buying a new one you should be fine reliability wise for the next few years at least. I think that “diesel gate” era of VW was just a bad point in terms of reliability.
All of the jokes he made proves that James is in his form today😂
Scotty Kilmer gave a nice comparison of German vs Japan cars. German car is made like M16, precise, does it job very well...Japan is like AK47, not so accurate, but robust. However when it came down to durability and reliability, theres just one outcome winner. M16 / German cars are build perhaps to precise, which leaves little room when something goes wrong / M16 as soon as a small stone came into a gun, it stopped functioning, while AK47 just simply WORKED!
why would you pick a vehicle in which you can't see the display? Which one has the better lights? I wish all car reviews would put more emphasis
on that...
The reason they are not doing that is probably because it is highly regulated how the lights of a car are supposed to be.
Its like saying which has the better brake
IIHS rates headlights. Check out their website for that information.
If you're going to do a critique on a car's exterior at least run it through the car wash on the way to the filming. We can't determine much through all the dirt and snow slush.
As for the looks, the RAV4 looks more utilitarian -- tool box pretty. While the Tiguan is more of a precision instrument design. The RAV4 looks more trendy, but its looks will go out of style a loot sooner than the VW.
BTW, no discussion of utility (other than the third row), such as charging ports, seat adjustments, etc. I also could help but notice the Fender audio logo on the VW door.
A Short Wheel Base European spec Tiguan SEL with all extras fitted - HUD, 360 camera, memory leather seats, beige interior, pano-roof, Side Assist, Outdoor Pack, digital dash, ACC, LED headlights lights, 240 bhp diesel, 7-speed DSG, adaptive adjustable suspension (DCC), quiet, smooth, comfy ride, good-looking car. No blank switches, about the same price as sparse spec Q5...
Agree, the SWB Tiguan with LED lights for Europe (built in Germany) looks cool. Goes well.
Just like the RAV4. Crossovers are getting expensive.
+sic22l - don't understand! Just like the RAV4? Perhaps you mean just like a 3008! Except 3008 doesn't have a HUD, a very good 360 cam, a beige interior option, adaptive suspension. (But I like the 3008). Yes, crossovers are expensive! Cheers.
No, RA4 costs pretty much as much as Tiguan. 3008 is cheaper.
Does not compute in North America. Americans don't understand diesel cars.
VW... In terms of pure design art, always VW
I have a 18 Tiguan and I love it, I drove it to Rhode Island from Toronto and I got alittle over 850km to a tank, and it dosent require premium gas! Which is shocking because it's a turbo. One feature you guys missed is that you can put the map In the gauge cluster and shrink the tach and speedo. Otherwise great review!