Edwin Jagger DE89 V's Merkur 34C HD
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- A very interesting experiment for todays shave. But which razor did I prefer...?
Pre: Proraso White Pre-Shave
Soap: OSP Neroli
Razors: Edwin Jagger DE89 & Merkur 34C
Brush: RazoRock Plissoft
Blades: Feather (1)
Post: Thayer's Lavender Witch Hazel
A/S: 4711
Balm: Nivea Post Shave Balm
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Also, Edwin Jagger is a family owned small company in Sheffield England. My late dad was a machinist, so I appreciate the mission, design, and quality that Edwin Jagger talks about on their website about us company video. Haven't researched Merkur yet.
Merkur are an older company but they make everything from blades, to bars and razors. Both are great companies when it comes to safety razors.
I will always like a video where someone takes this much time to demo products.
I have both these razors...along with many others. They're both great razors and I really can't say which one is better....you might as well buy both...it's a hobby after all.
Ha ha Mike. You think along the same lines as I do. Cheers. Kevy :)
I have 17 different razors so I guess you could say I have RAD...what can I say...it's a guilty pleasure. A good morning shave is a very civilizing experience and it sets the tone for a productive day for me. Cheers from Canada.
I was just thinking about that!
Yes. No problem. Kevy 👍
After having watched the entire video, I was quite surprised about the final verdict.
Judging from your statements, the shave was similarly close with each razor, but you got some weepers and visibile skin irritation with the DE89, while the shave with the 34C seemed quite unproblematic and smooth.
I myself are not biased to any brand, but based on what I saw and heard from you, I'd take the 34C.
I have both of these razors in my collection, and they are my two favorite razors. My very first razor was the Merkur 34c, and I like it slightly better because I prefer two piece razors more. Both of these razors are SPECTACULAR for new shavers and either one is the only razor you need. These razors have nearly identical fantastic shaves that will not irritate your skin. I recommend a feather blade with both of these razors as well.
I own both of these razors and, to be truthful, I love them both. I always use Feather blades in all my razors simply because their extreme sharpness makes a BBS shave much easier to achieve with the least amount of pressure. For some reason, the Edwin Jagger seems to deliver a smoother shave. It's quite easy to find the correct angle with the Jagger. The handle on my DE89 has a ribbed, black rubber surface that makes gripping the razor very easy. I wasn't at all surprised with your verdict. The Edwin Jagger DE89 rocks!
Merkur 34C is one of my favorites👍👍
Kensurfs Me too. But this time the DE89 got the nod!
Are you talking razors or women ;)
I find that in my merkur 34c, one side of the blade protrudes out slightly farther than the other side. Is this just my razor? Or is this a trait of many safety razors?
I prefer the muhle R41 with a feather blade.
@@kevyshaves4109I like nodding.. and shiiit we got a razor that nods?! Sounds like my kind of razor. Thanks for helping me make up my mind by the way I watched 2/3 of the video on normal speed. :D
If you do another comparison shave with these two razors, switch sides so no dominant hand bias. That could possibly change the outcome of your preference. Good job with the comparison and thank you.
The EJ DE89L is fantastic. Best shave I ever have. Quality, beautiful Chrome finish. I like Astra and Derby blades in mine.
Me too! Just started wet shaving and I got a pack of 100 Astra SP blades for less than 10 bucks with shipping included.. I couldn't be happier when I finally threw away my cartridge razors.
I own both and used and still use the EJ for a long time. For me the EJ is pretty particular about what blades it liked and with some blades it can bite you from time to time. The 34C is much more forgiving when it comes to that. IMO, if I was to advise someone who was only going to get one I'd say get the 34C. Fit and finish is a tad better, blade changing system is better and it's easier to hone in on a blade you like.
Pete TheHawk Cheers Pete. I found it hard to decide which I preferred. I enjoy both of them but in this shave the DE89 gave me the better shave and I also prefer the handle on this version. Cheers. Kevy 👍
Kevy Shaves shaving always very personal thing for all involved products really. People always ask what's the best cream/soap, razor, blade, brush etc etc etc... DE shaving can be very rewarding and, ultimately, save you a few bucks over cartridge shaving, but if you're picky it can be very pricey upfront as you hunt for "the best" at least for you. I have a Merkur Futur, 34C, EJ and a Gillette fat boy and slim adjustable from the 50s. It seems that each likes some blades more than others. Non adjustable razors are the pickiest as blades can have their own grind angles and things so I highly recommend a blade sampler pack to friends looking to get into DE shaving.
Great advice Pete. Blades are so different in different razors. It's a bit of a minefield finding what works best for you. Cheers. Kevy 😀
Great video, Kevy! Thank you for giving us an unbiased presentation of why both the 34C and the DE89 are excellent razors in their own right.
I know and like both of them, too. If somebody asked me which one of those two was going to be my "shaving companion", I'd probably take the good old DE89 (or Mühle R89 = same razor, just made in Germany, Edwin Jagger and Mühle have been co-operating for many years). Feather blades certainly work very well with such mild razors, but do try mild yet sharp blades such as the Sputnik, Nacet or Silver Blue (all made by P&G in St. Petersburg, Russia), too. If you have a tough beard and like a little more aggressiveness to your shave, try the Astra Superior Platinum or the Polsilver Super Iridium (both made by P&G St. Petersburg).
Great comment Eric. Thank you for the blade info. Kevy 👍
@@kevyshaves4109 The pleasure's all mine. Take good care and shave well! :-)
I have both of these and much prefer the merkur, never get as good a shave with the EJ, find best combined with astras
Great comparison. Comfort is good. I prefer a longer handle so to me the EJ DE89 would be the one for me.
Good choice!
I have and use both razors frequently and could not possibly choose one over the other. They are both great razors!!!
David indeed they are David. Cheers. Kevy 👍
The Merkur 34C is a little more aggressive than the EJ DE89 & Muhle R89, also the EJ DE89 is the same head as the Muhle R89.
I have both razors. My first razor which I felt in love with was de89 and I was so bummed when I bought 34c. The simple reason was that de89 blade feel is more prominent and for a newbie is kinda helpfull always ''feeling'' where the blade is.
Now after many years of daily shaving routine and many razors off my hands (including 6s) I settled with 34c and I am not changing. You can't go wrong with 34c very smooth goes fine with most of blades out there and i think it is much more heavy duty from the de89. Feels more solid and ''traditional''. The de89 is more shiny but more fragile. Broke the thread once because ''I tightened it too much'' the shop manager said, something you'll find happens a lot.
I have an Edwin Jagger DE89 and I absolutely love it. Thanks for another great video Kevy. Take care and God bless.
I’ve always liked the Merkur razors. I began double edged shaving by purchasing the Edwin Jagger. I later tried the Merkur. Both are very good and reasonably priced razors. One of my current favorites is the Merkur 37C slant razor. Of course, the 37C is recommended for more experienced shavers. I also prefer the Astra razor blades.
The bottom line is that every face is different. Flip a coin and get one of them. They are about the same in aggressiveness. Once you get comfortable with DE shaving, you’ll never go back to cartridge razors.
Kevyn, thanks for this fantastic video. Thanks for help me a lot during all these years!
Glad to hear it!
Just ordered a DE89. Thank you very much!
Brilliant Chris! Enjoy it mate, it's a great razor. Kevy 👍
Well done Kevy.
I've not used the 34c so I can speak with complete confidence when I say I enjoy the de89 much, much better.
This was a very good comparison video. I'll be sure to share it.
THANKS for uploading Kevy, keep at it! Cheers.
Cheers John. You should try the 34C p. It's a great little razor. I'm sure you would enjoy it. Thanks for,the support. All the best. Kevy 👍
@@kevyshaves4109I m enjoying ur videos home alone..u r very nice person..nothing related to shavings 😊
Wow! Feather Blade! Your beard is probably much tougher (like wire) than mine. I started out with the Jagger DE89 and love it even though I now have a wider selection to choose from, I still really enjoy the Jagger every time I use it. I tried the Feather blades and found them to be WAY more blade than I need and got more weepers than with Astra Greens and a new favorite, the Wilkinson Sword blades. I do realize that everyone’s beard and skin is different so the combination for the “best” shave is going to be about as individual as finger prints! Thank you for your review of these two great razors Kevy!
Thanks Michael. You're right, everyone is different. I hated Feather blades when I first started out, too sharp for my skin but I came back to them after my technique had improved and I thought they were great. I really enjoy them now. It's good to revisit things. Sometimes they'll work for you, sometimes they won't. Cheers. Kevy 👍😀
Hi Michael,
I use Feather blades but had Acne when I was a teen so get lots of nicks from the Feathers. Always have sore face after shaving. Did you find a blade change helped a lot?
Cheers,
Dave.
All u can say is wow, EJ de89 is the best razor, I have ever used, used a feather blade of course, but wow, thanks for the recommendation.
I'm glad to hear that. Cheers. Kevy 👍
I have them both. I agree. The Edwin Jagger is my #1.
Kevy ! All fixed! A guy I work with fixed it within 10 min. Thank you for your kind concern!. Have a great day , have a great shave!!! (VLS)
Brilliant! Thanks for letting me know. Kevy 😀👍
Good evening Kevy, I looked into these two razors in the hope of finding a medium aggressive razor that was robust enough for travel. I had settled on the Merkur 34C...that is until I found this vintage Gillette in the Antique Mall near my home. I found the shave from a 1938 to 1941 (pre-war model) Gillette Fat Handle Tech gives a very comfortable shave and it built to last the rigorous of travel. It was a great buy at $15 USD...plating in mostly intact and in nearly new condition. You got to love something that is sold brass with nickle plating...at least more than chrome over pot metal. If you get the chance to try one of those vintage Gillette Techs please do. I think you will enjoy the simple ruggedness of these superb razors.
I have a couple of techs but they're the ones from the 70's. Great little travel razors and very mild shavers. Always great when you score a bargain, right?! Cheers. Kevy :)
Thanks for the video. Nice review. EJ De89 is a little more aggresive than 34C. I really like shaving with 38C , 34C's big brother.
I briefly considered switching to DE razor about 7-8 years ago. But it seemed too much of a risk (of nicks) so I did not proceed. Now I have done more research and with reviews such as this I’m convinced. I’ve ordered Merkur 34C👍🏻
Great! 😀👍
Looks like DE89 gives more cuts and nicks than 34C?
I just bought a 34C after over 3 years of Traditional WetShaving. I was looking on eBay and I seen a brand new one listed for $20 with free shipping. I noticed there was a “Make Offer” option so I offered him $18 and he excepted it!!! Lol yeah it was a spur of the moment buy but I’m excited to finally use it and have it in my Shave Den
Brilliant Mike. Nice score 👍
Good review and comparison. I have both razors and in my humble opinion, I give the edge, slightly to the 34C as an every day shaver. It is VERY smooth. For me, the Jagger is surprisingly slightly more aggressive so I don't use it every day, but save it for a beautiful weekend shave after a couple day's growth. They are both excellent though. The 34C is more user friendly with it's two piece, and the Jagger more beautiful in its diamond cut variant. To me at least.
Thanks. It was a very tough decision to make and who knows, on another day the 34C might have got the vote. Cheers. Kevy :)
Thanks Kevy.
I have both and I do prefer the DE89. Easier to get a close shave in my opinion.
Thanks from Sweden
Kenneth Liljengren Cheers Kenneth. Who knows, if I tried the same shave next time, the 34C might give me the better shave. There's very little between both of these razors and they both perform wonderfully well and give great shaves. Cheers. Kevy.
The comparison I was looking for!
NIce one Kevy! First of all, thank you for the video. :) I have both of these razors (in slightly different versions) and I would agree with you that the difference between the 2 is minimal. Personally, I would go for the 34c, mostly because I find it more comfortable to use, not because of the end result.
Don't discount the difference between shaving all with just one hand or using both hands. That could easily account for your experiencing a difference. Next time do your left side with the Jagger.
Great video, Kevy. I think Edwin Jagger has Merkur beat when it comes to elegant styling. I'm quite fond of the faux ivory handles.
A great idea of comparison and contrast for these two trusted performers. You highlighted even subtle nuances like weight, and overall length. Then there was a practical demonstration of each using the same blade, and soap with a pre-shave for the sake of proper prep. It was a well executed, even matched application of these highly recommended, and trusted razors. BUT, the scene stealer, to me, was the OSP Neroli!! What a rich, glistening, creamy smooth lather!! You mixed just enough water to optimize the emollients, but still kept peaks, and a sheen the made me envious beyond the beautiful contest and its competitors. Who would've guessed that OSP is the Alan Rickman of the wet shaving world. Well done, my friend. Please extend kind regards to Mrs Kevy, and Riley- The Hound of the Parrs.
ALEX De Leon Thanks Alex. It was great fun putting this one together. Lots of different elements to it. Very enjoyable. The OSP Neroli is one helluva soap. I find some of James' soaps to be a little heavy on the tallow scent but this one has a wonderful scent and is just spot on. And the performance? Amazing. I shall pass on your kind regards to Mrs.Kevy and the mutt! Cheers pal. Kevy 👍
When i started DE shaving i bought a muhle r89, same head as the DE89. Nice razor to start. You can get the Muhle R89 twist which is two piece
Chris James Yeah the Muhle R89 is practically the same as a DE89. Nice finish on the Muhle razors too. Cheers. Kevy 👍
Thanks Kevy. I too prefer the EJ. I use Astra blades. The Merkur seems to require the more expensive Feather blades.
Good call Scott. They're both great razors in my opinion. Cheers. Kevy 😀
Great comparison video. One has to remember that each person will have different experiences (ymmv). I have both razors and find that the Edwin Jagger is slightly more aggressive/efficient than the Merkur. The EDJ tends to bite more than the Merkur as born out in your video. I think both are great beginner razors and I use both regularly, however my personal preference and the one I recommend to my friends is the Merkur 34C.
It may have a little more bite, but as seen later that evening, it only mattered a little to his date (click on image to enlarge): i.imgur.com/4iJzEqE.jpg
Gary H Thanks Gary. I wanted to try a Feather in both these as they are considered to be slightly mid range razors. I love both of them and there were a couple of weepers on the EJ side but it was still a very comfortable shave. The EJ side just felt a tiny bit better. Cheers. Kevy 😀
Hey Kev, great video mate but no need for the fast forwarding on our behalf, I think most of us here are here because we enjoy the show..........haha even the nutty bits.
Cheers 😀👍
DE89 was my first razor and Ive gotten the 34G as well. My face felt smoother after the shave and can be an everyday razor. After a few days growth even up to a week, the DE89 takes it down no problem. The 34G was a shorter handle which made me scared of dropping it when shaving and the DE89 handle length is just right. I like the DE89.
I came to the same conclusion that you did. I tried both razors and found the Edwin Jagger DE89 to give a better shave and more comfortable. Besides the EJ is a better finish. Great video.
Hard to beat the amazing finish on the EJ
Cheers Michael. The finish on the EJ is lovely. Kevy 👍
Kevy Shaves if u like the shave at the moment to be th de89 , why if u were to use the same set up u would. choose the c34?
I just really enjoy using different razors. The difference in these two is very minimal. Both are great razors. Cheers. Kevy :)
Hi Kevy, fantastic, wonderful exceptional shave with both of them, impossible to choose for me you have to own both and buy Muhle R89 and you'll then have a lot competition with the gamechanger in the stainless world with the Rockwell 6s. Your suggestion are at the moment completely Ligned with mines. Take care my dear and still enjoy the Shaving like a little child🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭
I love DE89. Such a beautiful razor !
Purchased the 34 c this year earlier. Just got into de shaving. Gives a darn good shave after couple of simple passes and I'm very pleased. Like the long thread which scews in I'm sure that would help in stability. Although it's short in stature, not a problem for me. Easy to clean, nice chrome finish. I'm sure this will last ages and ages....I can see why it's a sure bet. The de 89 made in Sheffield must be a good un too. Looks nice.. was gonna buy a muhle model but would of been twice price. I think I would of paid for the resin finish for that one. Cheers !!! Happy shaving.. de shaving rules !!!
Brilliant comment gazza. Good to hear you're enjoying shaving the proper way! Lol! 34c is a great razor. Cheers. Kevy 😀👍
Thank you for great video! I just got into wet shave with Dorco blazer&blades but I wanted to get more decent one... heard a lot about 34c and de89 so I was considering between these two... and this vid gave me a great help! very informative, worth my 30min! Thanks again :)
You're welcome. Whichever of these two razors you decide to go for, I'm sure it will give you a great shave. Cheers. Kevy 👍
I love both and don't think I could choose between the 2. The EJ is noticeably more efficient in my opinion and I would never use a Feather with it, however a Feather works well in the 34c. I doubt you'd get any blood or irritation at all if you used an Astra Superior Stainless or Rapira Super Steel.
Get a Muhle R89 Twist. You get a 2 piece razor with the 89 head. The blade alignment is perfect on the first try and it’s heavier. The 34c and DE89 are still in my rotation , but nothing beats a twist.
Der Rasierkopf von dem Edwin Jagger ist exakt der selbe wie der Muehle R89.
Beide Firmen arbeiten zusammen.
For me it is the merkur 34c all the way! Been using it since I switched to de shaving 10years ago. Why spend more and buy another one when it's already good?
Lee Khan The 34C is an excellent razor. I like to collect razors and I really enjoy using different ones. Cheers. Kevy 😀
Since when did Asians start growing face hair?
I have merkur 33 c it's good, but i try Muhle R41 ,it's another galaxy !
I think the most impressive thing is how clean your shower is :)
😀
Very interesting comparison, thank you.
Though you could be a little deaf in the right ear hence the lack of audio feedback from the EJ?
I KNOW I AM!!! 😂
I use the Edwin jagger 89,I have never had a razor burn or cut myself, for me it is a fantastic razor,it does help if you use a good shaving cream.the blades would be your personal choice.when shaving take your time,it isn't meant to be a chore 👍
Great comment Vincent. I agree with everything you say. Kevy 👍
@@kevyshaves4109 thanks kevy glad you liked my comment, all the best.👍😀
I received my R 41 open comb today. Test double edge razor I’ve ever used. Question. The R 41 stainless steel. Is it all stainless steel even the head? I have a new horse in the stable. And that is the R 41. One pass. No blood. I would not called aggressive. I would call it efficient.
Thanks for the shave and comparison Kevy. I have both and side with the EJ. I started with the 34C, used it for 2 months and the shaves were inconsistent. Switched to the EJ and it all seemed to fall into place for me very quickly. Every now and then I switch back to the 34C for a shave but the result is always the same (it might be mind over matter!!!). I agree on the ease of finding the angle and handle length being positives.
I really enjoyed both razors but for this shave, but the DE 89 just seemed to be right in every way. The 34C is still one of my favourite razors but the Edwin Jagger is right up there at the top now too. Cheers. Kevy.
Heh, totally agree with you. When I first started off my go to was the Merkur 38c (which afaik is basically the same as the 34c but with a longer handle). Used to avoid the de89 since I'd get more nicks since to me it also seems a bit more aggressive, but that is a good thing now since I can look presentable with a one pass against the shave, just to be lazy lol
Lol! That's a great excuse to use the DE89!! 😂😂 Cheers. Kevy.
I realize your post is a year old and you probably have tried other blades but... I had the same problem with the DE89 when using feather blades. With Astra Green or Wilkinson Sword blades, the only time I get weepers with the DE89 now is when I get careless, moving to fast etc. The DE89 is so comfortable that sometimes forget that it can “bite”.
Thanks for the comparison and for another great video. Both are excellent razors. Perhaps if you repeated the experiment with a different blade, you might get a different result!
Cheers Jeremy. You're right, the result might well be different! Kevy 👍
Great review and great channel but today, I bought the Merkur 34C for $29.99 shipped and the Edwin Jagger DE89 Laser 3d (razor used in video) is available for $68 shipped. Price does make a difference and comparison of products should be done within a narrow price difference...unless the point of the video is to decide if the price difference of two products is a value or not. Clearly this was just a shave quality comparison, which is like comparing 2 vehicles' performance with one costing more than twice as much.
That seems expensive for the DE89. Kevy 🙂
that was a good comparison Kevy. I have the 34c and I have the Italian Barber knock off of the DE89. The DE89 seems to be slightly more aggressive but overall I like the 34 better as a go to razor. I find the size and angle easier to get under the nose too than the DE89. They are both very good though.
chris ryan They are both brilliant and either one is a fantastic addition to any shavers den. Cheers. Kevy.
Just bought the ej on your recommendation, let's hope it lives up to your thoughts, and my buddies too.
How is it?
34Gold bought... I couldn't resist anymore.....
Me too! Beautiful razor.
Newbie female DE Wet Shaver and the EJ DE89 was my first "real" razor hahahhaha. I love it! I have a RazoRock Plisofft on the way too.
Good to hear Jill. Kevy 😀👍
If you like the Merkur 34C but want a longer handle, then buy the Merkur 23C that is the same razor as a long variant
Good to know. Cheers. Kevy 😃
I like watching these videos so entertaining
Good review mate,thanks!
Very good review I like your style of presentation, thank you very much.
Thanks. I appreciate that. Have a good week. Kevy :)
i love you mr kevy your awesome and like you said if.you csnt decide just get both and thats what im gona do i already own the edwin jagger de89 barley edition that was my first and i still love it like the first day i got it shaves like a dream but im about to order the merkur now its just 30 dollars including shipping on amazon so why not have both thanks for your videos keep them coming
Thanks for the support Raul. Yes, why not have both?! Lol! Good choices my friend. Cheers. Kevy :)
Use the proraso preshave for a final pass retouching finishes instead of relatharing
Nice test Kevy, I haven't seen anyone do a direct comparison of them before 😌👏
I have both, and I really like them, but I just prefer the ........ 34C, but only just.
Both are excellent razors, they have great heads, are as easy as any DE to use, and I get bbs shaves with both of them.
I like the fact that the 34C is a 2 piece (fingers well away from the blade when (un)screwing the handle), I prefer it's weight, and I like its short handle, but I'm not very big, and neither are my hands.
Saying that, the DE89 has some things going for it compared to the 34C, it's got a better finish, it's got a more common 3 piece design so you can easily change the handle, and the default handle is longer if you prefer that and want to stick with it.
So if I was to recommend one, then I would say get either of them 😂
Dave C Ha ha! On the fence Dave?! Both have their pros and cons. The fit and finish on the EJ is better but then it's slightly more expensive. The 34C is a great 2 piece razor and does shave great but the option of changing the handle on the EJ is also another plus point for it. Very hard to choose a winner here!
ha ha, I might be 😂
Kevy, It's so difficult, 😩
Some people say the 34c is more efficient, others say the de89, whereas I can't tell any difference. I find both heads as easy to use as each other but I've never done your side by side comparison.
Despite preferring the 34C, if I had to go for one, then because of the finish, and the versatility of the 3 piece design, I'd probably say the de89, because it's so similar to and as good as the other one which I think is marginally better, and that I'd buy 😂.
There you go, how decisive was that 😌👏
I just wish these companies would try to makes something using stainless steel, and especially for Edwin Jagger, sell different top caps and plates that make the aggression adjustable for the DE89. How about an open comb plate? How about TTO, adjustable Edwin Jagger?
Shave- a-thon me too !
Kevy too, as long as he avoids the Feather blades with more aggressive top caps, although he knows the procedures when the shave is too close as per his post shave celebrity date (click on image to enlarge): i.imgur.com/4iJzEqE.jpg
Hi Kevy, only got the 34c but think I might prefer a longer handle razor.; find the 34x a little difficult to hold sometimes!
I am going to stick with it for a while and wait until I am a more seasoned shaver then upgrade to something a little more aggressive like one if those adjustable numbers.
Enjoyed the video
Steven
Yeah stick,with it Steven. I think I actually prefer longer handles after this shave! The DE 89 is a beautiful razor and shaves just as well as the 34C. The adjustable razors give you lots of options. Hope it's going well in the shave department. 👍
I would think that the two piece design shields the razor from being damaged in the case of drops as the threads are deeper in the handle. Looking at some reviews, I've seen where the bolt on the DE89 breaks when dropped. Could also be the quality of the metal being used. Thoughts?
Yes, the two piece design would offer more protection for the thread on the top cap. I'm not sure of the quality of materials used in the Edwin Jagger razors. Cheers. Kevy :)
The threaded bolt on my Merkur 37C pulled right out of the head due to 2 years of regular use (no drops). Maybe I was tightening the handle too much, but if the head was made of hardened steel instead of junk metal, the bolt would never have pulled out. This is a weakness in the Merkur design, regardless of how long the threaded bolt is. I can only hope that the Edwin Jagger isn't also made out of "wax". It is a tool for MEN, after all.
hba8103 I was just reading this too . The head of the 89 will snap right off . Wtf .
hba8103 ,
I see this same complaint w/ the EJDE89, but I love mine and don't drop or over tighten it (2yrs, knock on wood). I chose it because some yrs back I heard about problems w/ the 34C and uneven blade alignment from one side to the other. Google "Merkur 34C uneven blade alignment" and you might find what I'm talking about.
While I'm loving my Edwin Jagger, this video does make want to check out the latest 34C.
Both of these are mild shavers.
I may have to revisit the 34c again, but I found it to be a bit more aggressive than the EJ.
I hated my 34c! I used one for 3-4 years and I never got a good shave with it. I almost went back to cartridge razors because of it, but thankfully I tried a 38c before giving up hope. That is a great razor that kept me in the game. I even tried going back to the 34c, once I knew it wasn’t my technique and still couldn’t get a good shave with it.
I don’t have the EJ, but I have the Muhle R89, which is almost identical. That is hand down my favorite and almost daily razor.
I would use the Astra (green box) blades with either of these razors. I find the Feather blades too sharp for my skin.
My 34C also performs best with Astra, so far. Tried with Gillette Platinum, but wasn’t that good as the Astra!
That settles it then. I'm getting both.
Lol!!
I have them both and rotate them.
The threads will wear on the Edwin Jagger, mine has after 8 years of use
great vid, do it again but this time use the ej on the left and the merkur on the right, that way each razer has a fair chance of your own motor skills, you could be higher skilled on one 1 side over the other. both razors look great, but it is fun to do another test :)
It was more fun when he went out with his customary post shave date! i.imgur.com/4iJzEqE.jpg
Solo bushcraft 82 Good idea, and that way it would make it fair. I'll keep it in mind and hopefully do it sometime in the future. Thanks for watching. Kevy 😀
Kevy, thanks for this video! Just found your channel looking for a novice like me. I really enjoy seeing your progression from the first ever DE shave video (with your 34c). What an improvement! I just ordered my supplies and chose the 34c to start. I'll be in the club soon enough!
Edit: BTW you left out the Proraso preshave in the description ;)
Jason Kilgore Hi Jason. Thanks for the kind comment. Great to hear that you're just about to start out on the road to wet shaving. I guarantee you an enjoyable ride, sometimes expensive, but always great fun. Well spotted about the pre shave, I've changed the description. Keep me up to date on how it's going when you get started, I'd love to hear how your getting on with it. Cheers, all the best. Kevy 👍
the louder audible feedbuck of german razor is because of has a hollow grip and the sound play with this,,,and of cource thε ancle of the blade with the skin is biger.
Without even using the DE89, i can tell by looking at it that it's a far more aggressive razor than the 34c. That would explain your closer shave and bloody weepers.
You might be correct Christian. Cheers. Kevy 👍
Very useful video , thanks Levy. I have noticed your neck side shaved with the EJ was much irritated than the Merkur shaved side.
Yes, I always have trouble with the right hand side of my face. It is getting better as time goes on but the right hand side is always the side I get trouble on for some reason! Thanks for watching. Cheers. Kevy 👍
A few hours after the shave Kevy had problems with the other side as seen here: i.imgur.com/4iJzEqE.jpg
Shave- a-thon lol!
After trying both and owning the de89 for me the best beginning razor is the razorock mission. It's really more efficient very forgiving and the head is around 7 or 8 dollars and the most expensive complete razor with a better handle then all the de89 handles is 20 dollars. If you want a heavier and nicer handle Westcoast shaving has affordable and quality handles. For price point performance and quality razorock mission beats both the de89 and merkur 34c.
correct conclusion.. have both.. :)
Congratulations! Both great razors. Cheers. Kevy 😀
What is that stone item you rubbing on your face post shave and what is the purpose of it?
It's called an alum block. Its a natural crystal that helps to close the pores on the skin and helps to heal any little blemishes you might have had during the shave. It's really good stuff. Cheers. Kevy :)
Great review.
I opted for the DE89 knurled as it was a toss of the coin between a DE89 & a 34C. What really helped to convince me to go for the DE89 knurled, was the price, quality and it is made in England.
Looking forward to trying my first double edge safety razor when it arrives. May get a 34C later if I like using a safety razor.
Good stuff Phil. Enjoy your shaves. Kevy 👍
Hi Kevy, reslly having a hard time putting it back together. I'll get though. Have a great day & thank you for your time.🙃. (VLS)
I think it's the little retaining ring that most people have problems with. Hopefully you can get it back together. Keep me posted. Kevy 😀👍
Why did you use 4 post shave products? seems like a bit of overkill, although its hard to argue with your skin being completely free of any irritation. However from what i understand if your going to use an aloe/witch hazel post shave that's all you need. No need for an alcohol after shave or even the Nivea because they're for the same purpose. No need for any alcohol products since you can disinfect with things that don't dry the skin. great video though!
What can I say? I'm a wetshaving products whore!! 😂😉😂
I had my first DE shave today mate. I got quite a lot of irritation, and some blood. No major cuts though. I used the factory Merkur blade. It seemed to tug quite a bit. I also didn’t clean and break in/oil my brush. I didn’t know you had to, so I’m doing that tonight. I think my skin needs to get used to it, as I’ve been using an electric beard trimmer for about 3 years. I managed to get a very close shave with two passes though.
Good to hear that Harvey. The Merkur blades aren't the best and that, along with it being your first shave may have added to your,irritation. never mind, at least you didn't cut yourself too badly by the sound of it. Rinse the brush out in some anti bacterial soap and lather that up in the palm of your hand to make sure it's clean, then rinse it out thoroughly before letting it dry before the next shave. Your skin will need to adapt to having a sharp blade going over it. stick with it and keep me posted. Kevy 👏👍
Kevy Shaves What’s you opinion on the Simpson synthetic brushes? Apparently they’re really soft, and cause less irritation than a badger one. I’m thinking of getting the Chubby 2 synthetic. I have a £20 Simpson badger one
The Chubby 2 synthetic isnt great abd there are much better ones out there for much less money. The Simpsons Tragalgar T3 is a better brush than the chubby 2 Synthetic and is cheaper. Have a look at the synthetic brushes from PAA - Phoenix Artisan Accoutrements- on The Gentleman's Groom Room website, theyre all really good synthetics. Kevy 👍
Kevy Shaves okay thanks. What makes the Trafalgar T3 better?
@@HarveyJohnWillmott The knot on the Trafalgar- the bristles - is much softer than the Chubby 2 and it is easier to create the lather. The bristles on the Chubby 2 are quite stiff and a lot of the times the lather gets pushed to the bottom of the knot which you dont wantbto hapoen. Theres plenty of reviews here on youtube. Kevy 👍
i been using the edwin jagger89 for the past like 10 years. my first and only razor. recently i been thinking about trying another razor. any suggestions?
Rockwell 6S or Rockwell 6C.
I took your advice, I own both!
Michael Thomas yaaaayy! That's ma boy! Lol! Well done mate, you've made great choices. 👍
Now I am reading that if you drop the 89 the head will snap right off . Wow . I was thinking of getting it . I will get the merkur 34 c now .
I've heard that can happen. Hopefully it doesn't ever happen to me. Cheers. Kevy 😀
I do like the Jagger 89 . But I just keep reading that that happens . That is a shame . I may still get it . Just try not to drop it . This is kind of like a Spitfire or a ME 109 . Lol
Try the Rockwell 6s and Feather blades👍👍👍 Greetings from Norway.
Thomas Johansen I like the 6S, it's my favourite razor. I've stopped using Feathers just now. They always feel harsh on my skin, especially when I go against the grain. I might try them again next year. Cheers. Kevy 👍
That's beautiful Razors
Super useful as I am thinking of getting my first safety razor and these are the two models I'm interested in. I'm swaying more towards the Edwin Jagger as its cheaper (around £24) and I don't want to spend too much, in case I cannot get away with a safety razor.
For the £24 asking price, the Edwin Jagger's build, finish seem unrivalled.
TalsVids You won't go wrong with the Edwin Jagger DE89, great razor. Cheers. Kevy 👍
Mine just arrived in the post today (DE89). Got some Proraso green soap, and the green Proraso pre shave and post shave balm to, and also the Semogue 1438 Boar Hair Shaving Brush.
I'll be trying them all out in a few days time, which is when I am due to have another shave (I only shave twice a week as I like to have a bit of stubble most of the time).
Brilliant. Sounds like you got some good shaving gear. Be sure to let us all know how it goes. Cheers. Kevy 😀
Kevy Shaves Will do. I’ve also ordered a variety pack of various brands of blades, as I read and watched from various places that it’s a wise thing to do when you are new to DE shaving.
Hopefully I’ll be able to find out which type/brand suits me and the razor the best 🙂👍🏻
I have thinking about this for a while and perhaps you can answer this... why does the DE89 look so much like the Mühle R89 and what are the differences? Loved the video.
They are probably the most copied heads in wet shaving. Not really wlly much difference to be honest. They both feel very similar. Cheers. Kevy 👍
Oh, I wish that I had come across your review a week or so ago. Decided to move back to a single blade DE safety razor after 40 yrs of cartridge and electric razor shaving. I'm not doing so bad with my choice of razor but getting a little razor rash at the base of the neck, although this is getting less as my technique improves. Nevertheless, a bit of sound research first would have probably altered my purchase decision.
Hey Allan. Maybe try some different blades in your razor. That might help. Cheers. Kevy 😀👍
If you're using the same blade, what do you think is the reason for the different results after the 2nd pass?
I think it feels different as there's less stubble to take Dow after the first pass. Kevy 😀
Have you ever tried Gillette silver blue blades? If you have, what do you think about them?
Yes, I have tried them. I just bought 100 of them last week. I think they're great, I really like them. Cheers. Kevy 👍
@@kevyshaves4109thank you for the reply. I appreciate it
Thanks Kevy!!! (VLS)