This was my favorite scene, the blocking was wonderful. The complete subversion of expectations too, Anjin expects a "prostitute" but instead finds an incredibly insightful, considerate person who immediately identifies what he and Mariko actually want and doesn't hesitate to try and facilitate that in the most graceful way imaginable.
Shōgun just keeps raising the bar with each new episode. I appreciate this release format because I honestly think this is the best way to view incredible television, but I hate the idea of having to wait a week for the next episode. That ending has me ready to dive into the 3rd act of this incredible show. Yet another phenomenal episode! 👏🏽
Thank you for making Cosmo watch Remains of the Day. That was the perfect directing choice. Everyone in that scene played it perfectly. It was so beautifully painful. I also caught your direction of all the characters in the morning after scene. Genius.
This is definitely an episode of women's prowess! I'd like to bring attention to Ms. Yuka Kouri's stunning performance as Kiku the prostitude. The way she delievered "the speech" before inviting Blackthorne is so soothing and comforting, almost like a gentle, benign-looking hypnotism of the guest she is about to entertain. Ms. Kouri's portrayal really convinced me why she got this difficult role.
I loved the arty touch at the willow house, where the courtesan disappeared behind mariko. The translated words became sensually offered to blackthorn, as if they originated from mariko.
During this period, it was common for the daughters and sons of many feudal lords to marry for political reasons. Some of them later turned against each other, which shows how warlike this period was. In this period, Japan was a group of 68 countries with more than 300 feudal lords, and although the show makes it very simple, there were many battles and politics in each of them. Even today, there are statues, graves, and places related to the feudal lords in various places where they originated. It would be fun to visit such places when you travel in Japan.
This is the history of every single empire. Marriages were basically alliances to increase political clout and extend empire. It's been going on for thousands of years
This is without a doubt the best series to hit the stream in a long, long time. As others have said, it just keeps getting better with every episode. Congratulations to all of you who contributed to the making of this series, top to bottom, inside and out. A true work of art.
@@peteg475 the whole thing goes from quite serious to comedy..., I can't even describe how, but you know :)(like a samurai sword chop:), and it's original...
@@Nicolas-uu3jr "Everyone Hates Yabu" Episode 15: Yabu threatens annoying neighborhood skateboarding kid with being boiled in neighbor's swimming pool. He runs afoul of the Housing Authority and his Poker Night Buddies hatch a daring escape plan to spring him from County Jail. Hi-jinks ensue!
excellent team for shogun tv series.. when people's talent deeply mixes and is bound to create the show.. thank you for sharing the skills and making us witness how things happen in the past.. love the show..
I've watched every episode multiple times I love the dark theme the music the tones the bass in all the scenes the cannons sounds so sick I wish it had some more boom, this modern version of this show is what I envisioned it to be forever, I listened to every podcast every behind the scene, I know Batman approves, I have to many great things to say, the Masculinity, the colors, shout out to John Blackthorne I wish I could talk like that ok and I'm done
Fantastic interviews, i love listening to these every week. Especially in this episode the tea sea has such depth. . BTW at 18:40 in CC it has Caillin's name not Emily's
Another great episode! I will say, that I am enjoying the differences between the book and the changes they have made in this iteration. There were some that I was sad to see not included, but for the most part, it's been great. I was wondering how they would spin the tale of Ochiba hating Toranaga. Interesting way to do it! However, I do wonder if what the reason in the book will make an appearance in the show! Looking forward to it!
Bro mama-san is the most beautiful woman in this entire show. I will die on that hill. That pale make up, her smile, her black hair…just stunning and mystical in every aspect.
I think it’s better that way. So many resources went into the making of just 10 episodes…the end result was a masterpiece that will be remembered for years to come, I’m sure; not only because of its association with the novel, but because of its own merit as well.
I actually wholeheartedly agree with you sometimes you make something really really good and it just needs to be a one and done. Especially because this is a historical fiction novel I understand one season I’m sure Shōgun will be remembered long after release and that’s all I could ask for but I guess I was getting greedy aha and I wanted more.
An interesting aspect of the relationship between ochiba and mariko was when ochiba said to mariko, i never understood you. I thought it was because mariko kept herself in the 8-fold fence. While ochiba was more open and obvious, even though she is conning and manipulative to men. It would seem mariko will always have the open hand if the two were to tangle as fate would have it. I think it will come to them being the most influential in this war that’s just begun. I think toranaga understands mariko’s talents.
I bet obicho is pretending to say attack Toranaga to make council destroy itself 3d chess style. The way she convinced that council leader by say9ng Toranaga was the planner of the assassination was dope manipulation
And it was nice of lady Kiku to recognize marikos feelings and offered to make the place dark to fulfill, even asked if she would join. But also I bet lady Kiku would tell that half bald dude that's jealous of anjin
Honnoji Incident(Akechi killed Oda(Kuroda) by the troops of 13,000) is one of the maximum mystery of Japanese history. There is another mystery. "Nikko Tosho-gu Shinto Shrine" (World Heritage Site) is the famous tourist spot .It's constructed as graveyard of Tokugawa Ieyasu(Toranaga) and it plays a role of guardian deity of the capital Tokyo(Edo) , and it's located in the due north of Tokyo (Japan has culture of vengeful spirit and feng shui(Chinese Astrology)). Another mystery is that there is the strange place name near the Nikko Tosho-gu.The name is "Akechi-daira(plain)" Why did Tokugawa Shogunate give the name of the traitor ！？
No. Mariko's father killed Taiko's boss, Lord Nobunaga at Honnoji (Honno Temple) Well, Mariko's father (Akechi) betrayed Nobunaga and attacked him, and Nobunaga committed Seppuku and killed himself denying Akechi he killed him (you can't fire me b/c I quit, ok that's not appropriate) And Taiko dropped everything and quickly killed Akechi (Mariko's father) to avenge Nobunaga..
@@J_McPhearsom gender gaslight to smokescreen the real conflict of class and wealth etc huh? gremlins can shut up and face the real truth for once. or ur a bot or u are a shill
Have loved the episodes till now but this one was pretty disappointing. Such a strange deviation from the book, especially the tea house scene. Also, why is Mariko so depressed in the show? A lot of her strength came from her ability to take joy from life in the book, despite her past. Why is toranaga so dull and sombre too while the character in the book was quite lively and from what we know of tokugawa ieyasu, not a dull presence at all. Some great acting but the writing leaves a lot to be desired, especially considering how differently clavell wrote about these characters.
uh? I worked on this show and this was by far one of the most expensive and ambitious episodes of the entire show. Maybe go watch "Saved by the bell", that might satisfy your needs.
@@eodyn7 "better mistake" if it is mistake can it be better? and better mistake than which? and who's mistake was it? comparing to what? you are a bot and he is a bot and this is a bot comment section and disappointment. i have spoken.
Every episode has been great so far but this one was straight garbage. Pretty much all filler until the last few parts of the episode. Don’t know why it’s getting so much praise
It’s a setup episode. They’re setting up pieces and context before the big battle and finale. It’s pretty typical for the 3rd to last episode of any season to have a ‘slow’ pace, as they get you ready for the last 2 episodes that contain the most action, and they spend more time & money on. They’re trying to get the backstory out of the way. To some extent, i agree, this episode wasn’t as dense, interesting, or as dynamic compared to what they’ve done thus far.
@@J_McPhearsom I’ve liked every episode so far but we had the build up and then the escalation with the cannon incident saying this means war, but then they didn’t follow up with it. The episode after that was still good but now for it to be dragged two episodes later focused on what we got, it’s disappointing and a waste imo. This was definitely the worst episode the John and mariko dynamic is really getting old with how much focus it gets over everything else.
That was a massacre of the Tea House story compared to the book. All the romance and eroticism gone. So much was left out and it was so important for Blackthorne and Mariko’s relationship. That was a disappointment for me, it was a radical reinterpretation. Also the friendship with Omi and how he tried to apologize after. All cut.
It's fascinating to hear how real-life experiences influence these performances.
I would have loved to find out some more about the gestures during the tea ceremony negotiation...🙏
Anna Sawai was phenomenal in this episode. Great actress
Kiku sitting out of view so when Anjin turns, he only sees Mariko. She's a PRO.
YES! I couldn't believe they didn't talk about this more in the podcast
This was my favorite scene, the blocking was wonderful. The complete subversion of expectations too, Anjin expects a "prostitute" but instead finds an incredibly insightful, considerate person who immediately identifies what he and Mariko actually want and doesn't hesitate to try and facilitate that in the most graceful way imaginable.
Kiku legit read the thick atmosphere and tense romance between Mariko and Blackthorne and decided to be Mariko's winggirl unexpectedly 🤯
Shōgun just keeps raising the bar with each new episode. I appreciate this release format because I honestly think this is the best way to view incredible television, but I hate the idea of having to wait a week for the next episode. That ending has me ready to dive into the 3rd act of this incredible show. Yet another phenomenal episode! 👏🏽
do you like it or do you not like it. bro. it's just striptease+eye rape, roll with it. and then touch some grass.
This was a great episode. Ochiba brought an interesting dynamic to the power structure of the council. Loved the play as well.
The snake and the ogre-- how was that anecdote not included in the show!?! Such a great line.
Hiroyuki's delivery of 時は来た at 0:11 is epic
Thank you for making Cosmo watch Remains of the Day. That was the perfect directing choice.
Everyone in that scene played it perfectly. It was so beautifully painful.
I also caught your direction of all the characters in the morning after scene. Genius.
This is definitely an episode of women's prowess! I'd like to bring attention to Ms. Yuka Kouri's stunning performance as Kiku the prostitude. The way she delievered "the speech" before inviting Blackthorne is so soothing and comforting, almost like a gentle, benign-looking hypnotism of the guest she is about to entertain. Ms. Kouri's portrayal really convinced me why she got this difficult role.
Being drop dead gorgeous didn't hurt either.
Absolutely obsessed with this epic show.
I loved the arty touch at the willow house, where the courtesan disappeared behind mariko. The translated words became sensually offered to blackthorn, as if they originated from mariko.
During this period, it was common for the daughters and sons of many feudal lords to marry for political reasons. Some of them later turned against each other, which shows how warlike this period was.
In this period, Japan was a group of 68 countries with more than 300 feudal lords, and although the show makes it very simple, there were many battles and politics in each of them. Even today, there are statues, graves, and places related to the feudal lords in various places where they originated.
It would be fun to visit such places when you travel in Japan.
This is the history of every single empire. Marriages were basically alliances to increase political clout and extend empire. It's been going on for thousands of years
This is without a doubt the best series to hit the stream in a long, long time. As others have said, it just keeps getting better with every episode. Congratulations to all of you who contributed to the making of this series, top to bottom, inside and out. A true work of art.
"time to write another will" 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼Gold, GOLD!🏆🥇
A Yabushige sitcom might actually work. lol
@@peteg475 the whole thing goes from quite serious to comedy..., I can't even describe how, but you know :)(like a samurai sword chop:), and it's original...
@@Nicolas-uu3jr "Everyone Hates Yabu" Episode 15: Yabu threatens annoying neighborhood skateboarding kid with being boiled in neighbor's swimming pool. He runs afoul of the Housing Authority and his Poker Night Buddies hatch a daring escape plan to spring him from County Jail. Hi-jinks ensue!
I want to be able to read each will he writes!
@@mitchsn 🤣👍
The Tea House scene definitely was a moment
excellent team for shogun tv series.. when people's talent deeply mixes and is bound to create the show.. thank you for sharing the skills and making us witness how things happen in the past.. love the show..
The “5’1 Club” anecdote to end this episode is just hilarious/iconic - absolutely love it
What a riveting and immersive piece of television Shogun has become. Definitely one of the best series in the last decade. We need more!
I've watched every episode multiple times I love the dark theme the music the tones the bass in all the scenes the cannons sounds so sick I wish it had some more boom, this modern version of this show is what I envisioned it to be forever, I listened to every podcast every behind the scene, I know Batman approves, I have to many great things to say, the Masculinity, the colors, shout out to John Blackthorne I wish I could talk like that ok and I'm done
第6話
紅天じゃ！時はきた！震えましたねｗ神回です
女の怨念というか執念というか恐ろしいものがあります
しかし落ち葉の方もお菊も鞠子も衣装が美しくて演技が素晴らしい
いやぁ、第6話素晴らしかった
また1週間待たねばならんのかぁ...
real life lady ochiba is nobunaga's niece, not daughter right?
Fantastic interviews, i love listening to these every week. Especially in this episode the tea sea has such depth. . BTW at 18:40 in CC it has Caillin's name not Emily's
Another great episode! I will say, that I am enjoying the differences between the book and the changes they have made in this iteration. There were some that I was sad to see not included, but for the most part, it's been great. I was wondering how they would spin the tale of Ochiba hating Toranaga. Interesting way to do it! However, I do wonder if what the reason in the book will make an appearance in the show! Looking forward to it!
Bro mama-san is the most beautiful woman in this entire show. I will die on that hill. That pale make up, her smile, her black hair…just stunning and mystical in every aspect.
I’m actually sad that this is a limited series
I think it’s better that way. So many resources went into the making of just 10 episodes…the end result was a masterpiece that will be remembered for years to come, I’m sure; not only because of its association with the novel, but because of its own merit as well.
I actually wholeheartedly agree with you sometimes you make something really really good and it just needs to be a one and done. Especially because this is a historical fiction novel I understand one season I’m sure Shōgun will be remembered long after release and that’s all I could ask for but I guess I was getting greedy aha and I wanted more.
The greatest show in some time. Hope you make Musashi by eiji yoshikawa too. With the same level of shogun is going to be fantastic.
That is my dream project right there, to have Musashi retold in todays time with as much love as they gave to Shogun would be amazing
The best episode so far… Amaizing work … I wish it never stops ..
13:00 worth mentioning that Nobunaga was also her maternal uncle as well as cause of her father's death. Complicated family LOL.
Fuji had been stealing scenes from Anna Sawai. This episode, Anna took it all back.
Only because Fuji wasn’t allowed to cook this episode lol
It was Ochiba and Kiku for me. Magnetic.
Loved the prayer together and the negotiations and
Loving the show ❤
An interesting aspect of the relationship between ochiba and mariko was when ochiba said to mariko, i never understood you. I thought it was because mariko kept herself in the 8-fold fence. While ochiba was more open and obvious, even though she is conning and manipulative to men. It would seem mariko will always have the open hand if the two were to tangle as fate would have it. I think it will come to them being the most influential in this war that’s just begun. I think toranaga understands mariko’s talents.
毎回話や演出が素晴らしいが、日本人としては今回の話は見ててとても辛かった。
鞠子の夫の執着は彼女に愛情あるからだとは思ってたけど、ブラックソーンへの嫉妬や妬みで怒りを女にぶつけて殴る日本人男性の陰湿さや望んでも無い人へ無理やり気晴しに女をあてがう男性社会がこの時代から最近まで普通に行われてる事実に吐き気がする。
Wonderful observation, and very beautifully stated
This show is 🔥🔥🔥
How is this show so good?
I really want Hatamoto to link up with his men again. I hope they’re still alive.
They might be cooked by now. Literally.
I bet obicho is pretending to say attack Toranaga to make council destroy itself 3d chess style. The way she convinced that council leader by say9ng Toranaga was the planner of the assassination was dope manipulation
Also if 100 women and courtesan couldn't give taiko a baby, maybe he was infertile, so then who is the heirs real father?? Wicked writing
And it was nice of lady Kiku to recognize marikos feelings and offered to make the place dark to fulfill, even asked if she would join. But also I bet lady Kiku would tell that half bald dude that's jealous of anjin
@@MarsIncorporated_ yes, i don't think the taiko is the real father. maybe it's toranaga
That explains why the Taikō said his son looks like his mother. Probably implying that he looks nothing like himself.
@@MarsIncorporated_ dude ur tripping. explain the elder lady arc
Thanks 👌💕💕💕👌💕💕💕
Honnoji Incident(Akechi killed Oda(Kuroda) by the troops of 13,000) is one of the maximum mystery of Japanese history.
There is another mystery.
"Nikko Tosho-gu Shinto Shrine" (World Heritage Site) is the famous tourist spot .It's constructed as graveyard of Tokugawa Ieyasu(Toranaga) and it plays a role of guardian deity of the capital Tokyo(Edo) , and it's located in the due north of Tokyo (Japan has culture of vengeful spirit and feng shui(Chinese Astrology)).
Another mystery is that there is the strange place name near the Nikko Tosho-gu.The name is "Akechi-daira(plain)"
Why did Tokugawa Shogunate give the name of the traitor ！？
Was it traditional for brides to wear white at that time?
بی نظیر این سریال
So, Mariko's father, killed the taiko who was ochiba's husband, and he did sempoku on all her family and himself?
No. Mariko's father killed Taiko's boss, Lord Nobunaga at Honnoji (Honno Temple)
Well, Mariko's father (Akechi) betrayed Nobunaga and attacked him, and Nobunaga committed Seppuku and killed himself denying Akechi he killed him (you can't fire me b/c I quit, ok that's not appropriate)
And Taiko dropped everything and quickly killed Akechi (Mariko's father) to avenge Nobunaga..
Why do you pronounce Mariko’s name incorrect?
👏👏👏
I hear Eve from Lucifer ... the softer voice
the play was boring i had to skip it a couple of times. other than that, i like the rest of the episode
🤔👍❕️
Joon
So what do you think?Was Mariko with blackthorne?Or was she with Kiko and they left Blackthorne to be alone?Or what happend?
What kind of question is this, did you not watch the episode? 😑🤡
He went with Kiku
It was Mariko who left Blackthorne with Kiku.
These modern women. Relate with japan ??????
Too many women focus on the last few eps..
Oh, didn't realize that. Now I know.
uhu
How dare they flesh out the female characters! Wahh 😢 ❄️
its ironic that your username is "now you know" yet you know so little about this show and it's fine points
@@J_McPhearsom gender gaslight to smokescreen the real conflict of class and wealth etc huh? gremlins can shut up and face the real truth for once. or ur a bot or u are a shill
The Japanese pronunciation of the characters names is atrocious. Did the narrator of this podcast even read the book?
Have loved the episodes till now but this one was pretty disappointing. Such a strange deviation from the book, especially the tea house scene. Also, why is Mariko so depressed in the show? A lot of her strength came from her ability to take joy from life in the book, despite her past.
Why is toranaga so dull and sombre too while the character in the book was quite lively and from what we know of tokugawa ieyasu, not a dull presence at all. Some great acting but the writing leaves a lot to be desired, especially considering how differently clavell wrote about these characters.
The last scene of this episode was extremely cheap and disappointing.
The scene with the courtesan was also a cheap and unnecessary episode.
You are proof that people will complain about anything no matter how good.
uh? I worked on this show and this was by far one of the most expensive and ambitious episodes of the entire show. Maybe go watch "Saved by the bell", that might satisfy your needs.
Not it was very amazing.. The Japanese have a work..Haragei.. Tummy talk.. like words but they are not spoken, only felt..
@@eodyn7 "better mistake" if it is mistake can it be better? and better mistake than which? and who's mistake was it? comparing to what? you are a bot and he is a bot and this is a bot comment section and disappointment. i have spoken.
@@lyrilljackson LMAO "i have spoken." Nobody cares stfu
Every episode has been great so far but this one was straight garbage. Pretty much all filler until the last few parts of the episode. Don’t know why it’s getting so much praise
This was one of the best.. U just have no idea how little understanding you have about what this episode was about..
@@jpkiwi8744 About stuff I couldn’t care less about. I want to see more of Toranaga and that plot line not what we got this episode
It’s a setup episode. They’re setting up pieces and context before the big battle and finale. It’s pretty typical for the 3rd to last episode of any season to have a ‘slow’ pace, as they get you ready for the last 2 episodes that contain the most action, and they spend more time & money on. They’re trying to get the backstory out of the way.
To some extent, i agree, this episode wasn’t as dense, interesting, or as dynamic compared to what they’ve done thus far.
@@J_McPhearsom I’ve liked every episode so far but we had the build up and then the escalation with the cannon incident saying this means war, but then they didn’t follow up with it.
The episode after that was still good but now for it to be dragged two episodes later focused on what we got, it’s disappointing and a waste imo. This was definitely the worst episode the John and mariko dynamic is really getting old with how much focus it gets over everything else.
@@Ghost-kn9bd Well its the little things we missed in life I guess..A bit like your grammar.
i have stories like this to write from Kerala.
That was a massacre of the Tea House story compared to the book. All the romance and eroticism gone. So much was left out and it was so important for Blackthorne and Mariko’s relationship. That was a disappointment for me, it was a radical reinterpretation. Also the friendship with Omi and how he tried to apologize after. All cut.