Joe's suicide and the sorrow and distress it caused Joe's friends and family and Ren himself is the reason why Ren decided against suicide to escape his own suffering. He didn't want to inflict that on his own loved ones.
Ren appreciates reactors because he knows that each time you react to his music you might be helping him reach one more person who might enjoy his music or need to hear some of the messages he tries to deliver. Thank you!
Order and chaos,the 2 opposing views on life. A friend called Ren at 3 am and told him Joe was on the bridge and was going to jump. Ren ran to him, but got there too late. Joe saved Ren's life, because Ren decided he could never do that to his feienda and family. That he would wait for his illness to kill him. Ren's signature includes angel wings under it for Joe. And his first album was called Freckled Angel for Joe.
My interpretation is that Fibonacci sequence represents order, and double Dutch represents chaos. So he sees everything as being either perfectly in order or in complete chaos - no in between.
"The most important question to ask someone who is suffering is not one of medicine or family history, but simply, 'How can I help?'" Be there for your friends and family, nothing does more to help someone get through times while they're battling hard thoughts
This is the genius of Ren. He gets people to talk to each other and act with compassion toward each other. This conversation right here is why he’s important. ❤
The first half of the song relates to how Ren was feeling, the second half is a tribute to his friend Joe Hughes who unalived himself. I've definitely been through some dark times, I just wish I'd found Rens Music earlier, as he's changed my life for the better. Fibonacci sequence is : 1+2=3, 2+3 =5, 3+5 =8. Great reaction guys. He mentions Callum in the song, that's another friend of his he lost, to an accident at sea. You might like to react to his tribute to him 'Mackay'.
Suicide has become more of a taboo word in recent years, so much so that it's almost impossible to talk about it on the Internet without it being suppressed. Ren had to change the spelling because it was being restricted. How is anyone supposed to reach out for help if we can't even use the word? I'm glad he repeats it over and over because it makes it easier just to talk about and opens up the conversation. Much love ✌️
It took years for the stigma of suicide to be lifted so people were able to open up only to see the shutters slammed shut so that even the word has been made unspeakable and given stupid new words that sound completely childish and disgusting.
Posted by Ren about Joe: I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again. This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mum’s pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much White Lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary. Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe. He knew every word to the songs I’d write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then. On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe I’d have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said Happy Christmas and left. Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the Isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late. Joe’s body was never found. Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe. As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, Freckled Angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since. My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew. Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it. I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came. That song is Ren’s latest single Suic*de. During the campaign for the single he raised money for the RNLI, and also donated 50% of the profit on all copies of the ‘Freckled Angels’ album directly to Joe’s family. We managed to raise an incredible £21,000 for the RNLI, an incredible team of volunteers, who risk their lives without pay to aid calls of distress from British shores. The night Joe went missing they were out on the choppy stretch of water between Anglesey and the Mainland, until 5am, looking for Joe, without pay, from the goodness of their hearts. They continued the search efforts for the entire following week until hope dwindled. They owed us nothing, and gave us everything. I decided to pay a visit to Joe’s mum and dad. I was asked to play them the new live session I recorded in Calgary. It was probably the most nervous I’ve been playing someone a video that I’d made. The topic isn’t an easy one, especially for parents who have lost an incredible son. I nervously hit play, and the gravity of what I was showing sunk in and I began to cry. In the end we sat in silence, silently sobbing. Joe’s mum turned to me and smiled and we hugged, and I felt much lighter. It made me really realise I guess what I’ve always known. Music is far more than music. It’s a channel of communication for the things that are impossible to say. It’s a bridge between the living and the dead. It’s a way to stay immortal. It’s a way to resurrect the dead. It’s a universal language. It cuts down barriers of the parts of you which are encapsulated in steel cast iron. It allows frozen rivers to thaw and become un-stagnant. I owe myself, my life, everything I am to music. Music is the closest thing to god I know. I am so grateful to be doing what I do and to tap into this mystic force. My life, my energy, myself, I eternally devote to it.
❤ Thank you ❤ I enjoyed the conversation and reaction ❤ I'm looking forward to the next reaction ❤ May I suggest the three of you do another Ren song such as It's alright, Losing It, The Hunger, Genesis... Any song... They are all incredible! ❤ Definitely need to introduce Hi Ren to your boy❤ Much Love ❤
Sometimes you feel numb, just going through the motions. For many Ren is hope, after everything he has been through through , if he can find the inner strength to continue and get to a better place there is still a chance for them. Love the reaction, you all had very good input,.
This is my interpretation of the (Fibonacci/double dutch) section of Ren's spoken word. The Fibonacci sequence being (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, ...). It's a mathematical sequence that when drawn out, is an ascending spiral that appears throughout multiple area's of nature. This sequence is also known as the Golden Ratio or Godly form. It's something beautiful & there is no rational explanation of how it appears randomly in different parts in nature. Double Dutch in British English, literally means (nonsense /gibberish). So he's poetically saying is he sees the world as polar opposites, surprising beauty & nonsensical B.S.✌🏾
@@anithri That skipping rope terminology for Double Dutch is a North American Term, therefore it would be foreign to the British vocabulary & to a Welch Lad like Ren. But good on you for trying to make it work within reason. 😁
Thanks so much for your honest discussion… it’s so appreciated… when he names names of the guys they hung out with at the pier one of the names Callum also died by drowning after Joe… Ren had much sorrow in his life… there is a song an instrumental called Mackay which even if you do t get to react to take a listen it’s beautiful… thank you Julius… 🫶🏻
@ cool 😎 it is instrumental but Ren says more than most people do with words on a piano… just an idea include his comments on the video when you react… it tells a little bit about the song for the listeners… it will be helpful as there aren’t words… 🫶🏻
I’m so looking forward to your journey into Ren and his art. He’s not just an incredible artist; he’s an incredible human being. Speaking as one of Ren’s incredibly ill fans. Ren is hope, but he is also comfort. It’s very complicated living with constant chronic pain and fatigue. So much of it depends on keeping yourself in the right mindset. Isolation is a huge problem for many of us. Ren posting on Instagram the way he does helps with that. His posts make you feel less alone, or less forgotten. He has a kind comical personality. Ren is medicine for many of us. The human behind the music is such a treasure. Excellent conversation! 😉❤️
I live with incredible chronic pain for the last 16 years. Every day when I wake up knowing that when I get out of bed here comes the pain, I do think of deleting myself. But, I face the pain and try to enjoy the day and watching reactors react to Ren’s music. My Mom committed suicide and I live with such guilt which I’m trying to control. Thanks guys ❤
Nietzsche (and Ren has read Nietzsche) talks about the contrasting forces of order and chaos as Apollonian and Dionysian. The Fibonacci sequence and Double Dutch are the same contrast
You should try Dear God next Julius, another thought provoking song. Dominos too a song with a real message how the youth of today are shaped but by what they see online, magazines etc. real deep message
You sometimes feel like if you had done something different, just like you’re saying. Maybe if you had spent more time with them . Maybe if you had spent the whole day with them they might have gotten past that moment.
Ren got word that his friend was going to jump off the bridge - he ran to stop him but arrived too late and there was no sign of Joe- the water showed no struggle- his body was never found.
A couple things: first of all, you didn't play the song till the end! Very bad form. Second, Ren won't be on American mainstream radio cos he's independent, which makes his successes that much more impressive.
Definitely not you, you didn't even have the decency to play the video to the end, instead deciding to cut Ren off! You appear to have as much empathy as a psychopath.
Ren got word that his friend was going to jump off the bridge - he ran to stop him but arrived too late and there was no sign of Joe- the water showed no struggle- his body was never found.
Young men willing to take on these difficult emotional issues ❤Thank you
Joe's suicide and the sorrow and distress it caused Joe's friends and family and Ren himself is the reason why Ren decided against suicide to escape his own suffering. He didn't want to inflict that on his own loved ones.
Ren appreciates reactors because he knows that each time you react to his music you might be helping him reach one more person who might enjoy his music or need to hear some of the messages he tries to deliver. Thank you!
Order and chaos,the 2 opposing views on life.
A friend called Ren at 3 am and told him Joe was on the bridge and was going to jump. Ren ran to him, but got there too late. Joe saved Ren's life, because Ren decided he could never do that to his feienda and family. That he would wait for his illness to kill him. Ren's signature includes angel wings under it for Joe. And his first album was called Freckled Angel for Joe.
Thanks for the insight
My interpretation is that Fibonacci sequence represents order, and double Dutch represents chaos. So he sees everything as being either perfectly in order or in complete chaos - no in between.
On his other channel, RenMakesStuff, there’s 8 chapters in which he describes his experience and one of the chapters describes what happened with Joe.
"The most important question to ask someone who is suffering is not one of medicine or family history, but simply, 'How can I help?'" Be there for your friends and family, nothing does more to help someone get through times while they're battling hard thoughts
This is the genius of Ren. He gets people to talk to each other and act with compassion toward each other. This conversation right here is why he’s important. ❤
Hes sees life through beauty n chaos. (Double dutch is chaos)
If you're looking to get through his whole catalog, my favorite track is a highly overlooked deep cut off of his first album: "Pocket Full of Pain"
I’ll jump on that soon
The first half of the song relates to how Ren was feeling, the second half is a tribute to his friend Joe Hughes who unalived himself. I've definitely been through some dark times, I just wish I'd found Rens Music earlier, as he's changed my life for the better. Fibonacci sequence is : 1+2=3, 2+3 =5, 3+5 =8. Great reaction guys. He mentions Callum in the song, that's another friend of his he lost, to an accident at sea. You might like to react to his tribute to him 'Mackay'.
@@Stewart-m7i I will thanks for the info hit that sub for more
Suicide has become more of a taboo word in recent years, so much so that it's almost impossible to talk about it on the Internet without it being suppressed. Ren had to change the spelling because it was being restricted. How is anyone supposed to reach out for help if we can't even use the word? I'm glad he repeats it over and over because it makes it easier just to talk about and opens up the conversation. Much love ✌️
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It took years for the stigma of suicide to be lifted so people were able to open up only to see the shutters slammed shut so that even the word has been made unspeakable and given stupid new words that sound completely childish and disgusting.
This piece is so balanced and his final words hopefully gives pause for thought.
First time ren reactor let’s gooooo!!!! 😂😂
Beautiful reaction from you guys. Always good to hear people talking from their heart and speaking about the tough issues.
Posted by Ren about Joe:
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mum’s pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much White Lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
He knew every word to the songs I’d write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on.
If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe I’d have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said Happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the Isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone.
As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, Freckled Angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.
My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew.
Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it.
I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came.
That song is Ren’s latest single Suic*de. During the campaign for the single he raised money for the RNLI, and also donated 50% of the profit on all copies of the ‘Freckled Angels’ album directly to Joe’s family.
We managed to raise an incredible £21,000 for the RNLI, an incredible team of volunteers, who risk their lives without pay to aid calls of distress from British shores. The night Joe went missing they were out on the choppy stretch of water between Anglesey and the Mainland, until 5am, looking for Joe, without pay, from the goodness of their hearts. They continued the search efforts for the entire following week until hope dwindled. They owed us nothing, and gave us everything.
I decided to pay a visit to Joe’s mum and dad. I was asked to play them the new live session I recorded in Calgary. It was probably the most nervous I’ve been playing someone a video that I’d made. The topic isn’t an easy one, especially for parents who have lost an incredible son. I nervously hit play, and the gravity of what I was showing sunk in and I began to cry. In the end we sat in silence, silently sobbing. Joe’s mum turned to me and smiled and we hugged, and I felt much lighter.
It made me really realise I guess what I’ve always known. Music is far more than music. It’s a channel of communication for the things that are impossible to say. It’s a bridge between the living and the dead. It’s a way to stay immortal. It’s a way to resurrect the dead. It’s a universal language. It cuts down barriers of the parts of you which are encapsulated in steel cast iron. It allows frozen rivers to thaw and become un-stagnant. I owe myself, my life, everything I am to music. Music is the closest thing to god I know. I am so grateful to be doing what I do and to tap into this mystic force. My life, my energy, myself, I eternally devote to it.
Wow😢
Wow, what a brutal introduction to Ren 😅 love the conversations included in your reactions ❤ looking forward to more.
More to come!
Love how Rens words starts conversations with us all. Great reaction 😊
Yes! Thank you!
Great reaction guys❤❤❤
❤ Thank you ❤ I enjoyed the conversation and reaction ❤ I'm looking forward to the next reaction ❤ May I suggest the three of you do another Ren song such as It's alright, Losing It, The Hunger, Genesis... Any song... They are all incredible! ❤ Definitely need to introduce Hi Ren to your boy❤ Much Love ❤
Great suggestion!
Sometimes you feel numb, just going through the motions. For many Ren is hope, after everything he has been through through , if he can find the inner strength to continue and get to a better place there is still a chance for them. Love the reaction, you all had very good input,.
Great reaction guys, tough song but he is fire.
Coming here for ren but staying for the good vibes . Love from the uk new sub here nice to meet you my names Zoe ❤😊
Welcome!! Thanks for the sub
💖 tough song
love the conversation it created
🔥 reaction
What a great reaction. Thanks and subbed
Thanks for the sub!
What a beautiful conversation. Subbed 🙏
Thanks for subbing
This is my interpretation of the (Fibonacci/double dutch) section of Ren's spoken word. The Fibonacci sequence being (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, ...). It's a mathematical sequence that when drawn out, is an ascending spiral that appears throughout multiple area's of nature. This sequence is also known as the Golden Ratio or Godly form. It's something beautiful & there is no rational explanation of how it appears randomly in different parts in nature. Double Dutch in British English, literally means (nonsense /gibberish). So he's poetically saying is he sees the world as polar opposites, surprising beauty & nonsensical B.S.✌🏾
Wow. I took double dutch as in skipping rope. I thought of it as creating an audible rhythm to mirror the Fibonacci pattern
@@anithri That skipping rope terminology for Double Dutch is a North American Term, therefore it would be foreign to the British vocabulary & to a Welch Lad like Ren. But good on you for trying to make it work within reason. 😁
Thanks so much for your honest discussion… it’s so appreciated… when he names names of the guys they hung out with at the pier one of the names Callum also died by drowning after Joe… Ren had much sorrow in his life… there is a song an instrumental called Mackay which even if you do t get to react to take a listen it’s beautiful… thank you Julius… 🫶🏻
I’ll do that one next
@ cool 😎 it is instrumental but Ren says more than most people do with words on a piano… just an idea include his comments on the video when you react… it tells a little bit about the song for the listeners… it will be helpful as there aren’t words… 🫶🏻
Great reaction. Loved the conversation ❤
Thank you!! 😊
great reaction, its nice when a few people get together.
He did not see it, he was running to the bridge trying to ring him
Enjoyed your conversation Thanks guys ❤
So glad!
Nice reaction guys 🔥
Awesome reaction - thanks for taking the time! Really enjoyed your discussion around this. 💜🥔
Glad you enjoyed!
Please guys if you really want to tie things together about our Boi, please please do Rens 8 Chapters 🤯👏👍🙏💪🐝🍀🇬🇧
Ok
@julius_appollo thank you 👍
#Renagades
I’m so looking forward to your journey into Ren and his art. He’s not just an incredible artist; he’s an incredible human being. Speaking as one of Ren’s incredibly ill fans. Ren is hope, but he is also comfort. It’s very complicated living with constant chronic pain and fatigue. So much of it depends on keeping yourself in the right mindset. Isolation is a huge problem for many of us. Ren posting on Instagram the way he does helps with that. His posts make you feel less alone, or less forgotten. He has a kind comical personality. Ren is medicine for many of us. The human behind the music is such a treasure. Excellent conversation! 😉❤️
Great reaction from someone who’s been there. Beautiful dedication song ❤❤❤
Ayyy ren is hella dope that’s what’s up and I gotta slide through sometime fam dope setup bro
Absolutely bro !!!
I live with incredible chronic pain for the last 16 years. Every day when I wake up knowing that when I get out of bed here comes the pain, I do think of deleting myself. But, I face the pain and try to enjoy the day and watching reactors react to Ren’s music. My Mom committed suicide and I live with such guilt which I’m trying to control. Thanks guys ❤
Love seeing a great openness between you guys. Great discussion/ reaction.
Nietzsche (and Ren has read Nietzsche) talks about the contrasting forces of order and chaos as Apollonian and Dionysian. The Fibonacci sequence and Double Dutch are the same contrast
You should try Dear God next Julius, another thought provoking song. Dominos too a song with a real message how the youth of today are shaped but by what they see online, magazines etc. real deep message
Dear god is on my page first reaction I did
7 Sins or Wicked Ways would be a better song to show Ren off to a new listener
I haven’t heard those songs quite yet
You sometimes feel like if you had done something different, just like you’re saying. Maybe if you had spent more time with them . Maybe if you had spent the whole day with them they might have gotten past that moment.
Ren got word that his friend was going to jump off the bridge - he ran to stop him but arrived too late and there was no sign of Joe- the water showed no struggle- his body was never found.
dont say the name of this song, it will ruin your algorithym
A couple things: first of all, you didn't play the song till the end! Very bad form. Second, Ren won't be on American mainstream radio cos he's independent, which makes his successes that much more impressive.
How could you keep pausing during that end section? Even reactors who pause all the time had the decency and respect to let that run... but not you...
Definitely not you, you didn't even have the decency to play the video to the end, instead deciding to cut Ren off! You appear to have as much empathy as a psychopath.
@fatboywavy5049 want to see more of your first time reactions to Ren...❤
Ren got word that his friend was going to jump off the bridge - he ran to stop him but arrived too late and there was no sign of Joe- the water showed no struggle- his body was never found.