No car will ever be as brutal as the Speed 12. Even TVR said that it was too dangerous, a company that, we have to remember, sold cars with no electronic aids at all.
And even with the small number of electronics they had it made them catch on fire probably more often than 80s italian supercars. Absolute legends, you know the car is good when it catches on fire randomly and you have to keep it hooked to a battery tender at all times.
1. Mercedes S63 AMG E Performance 2. Caterham V8 Superlight 3. Toyota TRD Camry (caught off guard by this one, but it makes sense!) Good video, as always, Stype!
@@TopCarsTV I mean the same thing works for the Vectra OPC/VRX and the Passat R36 (Arteon R), but you don't see them rolling around with a lack of power.
@@hammaadhussain9974 S63 e-performance for being an angry 700hp luxury boat. Why? Caterham is so light that with 500hp it just slides all over the place, like butter in a hot pan. Grip is what makes you go fast, but with double power/weight compared to Veyron, you'll struggle to keep that Caterham stuck to the road
I’m certainly glad that I’m not the only one who took issue with that comment. Of course we all have different opinions and tastes, but the 812 is a masterful blend of functional yet graceful design, imho.
The idea of a license for high-powered cars is actually a good idea. It would stop inexperienced rich people from buying such cars and crashing them, while risking their lives and others. I think other countries should implement this.
Your editing is completely nuts and this why I *love* this channel 😂. Discovered it randomly while spending time on VisioRacer videos and damn I subbed quickly 😄
9:15 and the best looking CLK ever, when it comes to SLR looks, i personally prefer the Stirling Moss version that had simple styling. Even still i prefer the AMG DTM, while the regular SLR wouldn't be my choice
Nice video! I like how TVR "detuned" their Speed12 engine from the official 800HP to 840HP... admitting that the actual power figure was way larger! 😆 Also, the AM Vantage looks way cooler than the Virage it's based on... which adds exactly to your point! It could easily be tuned down to around 450HP and still be the super cool looking car that it is and still boast respectable performances...
First time here. I'm five months late, but I loved the content so much. The commentary was insanely funny and humorous. Love it. Love your work Sir, you're just awesome.
If I were to add a car, it would be the Land Rover Defender 90 with a V8. Having over 500 horsepower in a two door suv with a high center of gravity is sort of an accident waiting to happen. Even Doug DeMuro agrees on that one.
Doug is a example of a person who knows nothing about cars ,just watch is videos and the doug score ,but he does know about cup holders. As an example see him talking about a lamborguini 2+2 the espada ,he talks about the radio cassette player like if it was the brand who installed in the way he´s seeing and don´t have a brain to think that the place for the radio is not how it is in that car. I had a land-rover td110 and drove it off road for thousands of kms due to my work each month i would drive around 3.000 or more kms ,having using it to work for 15 years and now it´s just peersonalised and kept using it´s original BMW engine who is already powerfull enough ,defender is the model today but before it was just land-Rover and range-Rover but BMW made some extra models calling to the original land-rover, Defender, and just remenber that it was considered the most enviroment friendly car of the world ,compared to new electric cars ,mainly because it uses no plastic in it´s building,there are acessories but those extras i don´t have them in my car. They say Rover closed doors but so many new models driving around, Doug should be banned from youtube or call to his videos, comedy because it does made us laugh for years,he talks like all cars were made when he was 16 but no there are cars with 60 years or more on the roads
Absolutely LOVE your videos!! LOL. I had a rotten day until I tuned in to your vids. Great sense of humor....I laughed my butt off and dug for more of you videos......keep up the good work!!
Another thing with the LS4 cars is that they’re attached to the atrocious 4T65 transmission that could barely handle the 200hp N/A 3800. They go through transmissions just about as much as they do tires
The pair of 427 Supercharged "supersnake" Cobras are THE classic example of "overpowered", given how LIGHT they were. Around the SAME horsepower as the CURRENT Hellcat, but 2500 pounds or so gave them a HIGHER power-to-weight ratio - and NO traction control in those days.
It's ironic that this popped up just now on my feed. I've just bought a TVR Cerbera v8. Although not the speed 12, it's a 2500lb car with a 400hp race engine... Great video 😄
kona in portuguese is the reprodutive aparatus of women with a c instead of a K . Our dictator in the 60´s even said to Opel to change the name of the model ASCONA, it was sold under the name 1604, it changes with the engine capacity because of the word cona it sounds the same as kona
@@punemax I haven't meant that it something bad. It just type of cars that people drive. Relatively small, budget, generic design. Each one with their preferences and budget.
I think the Devel 16 prototype should've been on the list, since as you've said in your most recent video, no gearbox can handle 5000 power, and even if it did, who's gonna be able to handle let alone be brave enough to drive it?
Ahh yes....the TVR Speed 12....what an awesome car that would have been if it was allowed to be made. Just make sure it had a full aero kit and ABS at least. I think the V12 was made by TVR joining 2 of their straight 6 engines?
yes normally is that what happens but a straight six is a more perfect engine ,the V engine doesn´t work with perfect tunning because it´s just not possible by the way both sides work, while a 6 cylinder engine works perfect even cold it doesn´t vibrate at all ,or the same as being not started like old ferrari´s correctelly working, the TVR is a great car ,i own the first version of the cerebra which if well tunned it´s one of my favorite cars, today my cars are stopped for a long time ,sometimes when starting one is in need of being tunned by a mechanic who knows how to work with them, some are only curious and when leaving the car instead of perfectelly tuned is even worst than it was
Ever drive a Redeye Charger? I've owned one over a year and have never had a close call because I realize how easily you can lose control if you don't respect the power. Not that I don't enjoy embarrassing the occasional wide open throttle blast. But I have to agree with Shelby that there is no such thing as too much power. It's no secret that hellcats have traction issues. Still the most fun car I have ever owned.
I recently bought an 08' Impala SS Black on Black, and I LOVE IT!! Only issue it's bone stock except I bought a chip to delete that stupid Advanced Fuel BS so that way all 8cyl fire NON-STOP!! It's not a Mustang but man what it's really fun to drive especially when ppl don't know what it is and you may an ass whooping on them. Next step is for sure a real exhaust system later on some bolt ons and cams....
Hey Stype, have you ever heard of the SP Automotive chaos? This has two versions, Earth and Zero Gravity. I will talk about the Zero Gravity because it is the most powerful. The Zero Gravity version has 3000 HORSEPOWER, 0-60 in about 1.55 seconds, and a top speed of 310mph or 500 kilometers per hour! The world’s first Ultracar!!! I N S A N E
I like the 812 Superfast and I knew it would be on this list. It also looks fantastic and without that aero it would probably be undrivable for any normal human.
One thing about the Nevera it wasnt mentioned The Nevera broke around 27 world records at once, _27,_ I'm someone who really doesnt like eletric cars, that is an insane milestone for any car I would still pick tbe Cerbera, I dont have love for life whatsoever
The Speed 12, official horsepower numbers was around 950, but Ive talked to a few people who drove some of the prototypes and they said it was closer to 1200hp
This are my thoughts when watching this: this video tells me that 500hp is the limit you can have on the road, either be it an SUV or sudan, if a ferrari with 800hp is too much, then half of that would be considered enough power, so 500hp it is. 300 hp is for sports cars, and 100 to 200hp for economy cars.
Since there are some extremely wealthy people that can afford a very limited production and expensive super car, there will be a few extreme cars with over 1000 horsepower. However, when it comes to the real world, with real city streets, real highways, and real freeways a car with around 200 horsepower is plenty of power for all the various forms of street driving
Okay, I want to add two cars to this list, the M-B G900 rocket amg because it's a freaking G-wagon with 900hp, and the Dodge Challenger demon 170 because it's a 1000+hp muscle car with no hint of drivability
1:49 The SS Imp wasn't a bad car in the power range. It was just the so shitty unreliable 4-speed they all used until it was discontinued. Up until 2012, the SS was replaced with the more base versions overall, with the same power put in a V6 VVT and a way better transmission, a 6 speed auto. Those engines were slightly upgraded and more powerful in 2014 when the power bumped from 300 to 305. Not a huge increase, but just enough. Going back to the SS though, if they would have thought of putting a more reliable transmission in it, also maybe make it a RWD car instead of the FWD they used, it may have actually stayed on the market.
Should there be a limit on the car's horsepower?
depending on the type of car like minivans get 250HP and muscle cars get like 550HP
Max of 900 hp from the Factory, but MAX.
No, but people should know *what* they're making, and then put their own limit based on this, such as the FR Ferraris mentioned in the video
Hell noooooooooooooooo
Agreed@@razvan_yon
No car will ever be as brutal as the Speed 12. Even TVR said that it was too dangerous, a company that, we have to remember, sold cars with no electronic aids at all.
It had more HPs than Kilos, screw Koenigsegg One:1
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious the Koenigsegg was too refined, the TVR even had a full racing rollcage on the road version
And even with the small number of electronics they had it made them catch on fire probably more often than 80s italian supercars. Absolute legends, you know the car is good when it catches on fire randomly and you have to keep it hooked to a battery tender at all times.
@@fhkkjjk9255 ahahah fr, I absolutely adore TVR
Unfortunatly that seems like the way to create hype on a car that doesn't work (and it worked)
1. Mercedes S63 AMG E Performance
2. Caterham V8 Superlight
3. Toyota TRD Camry (caught off guard by this one, but it makes sense!)
Good video, as always, Stype!
Camry isn't TRD but still a 300hp V6 model. It goes against everything that a Camry stands for - being a thinking man's car.
@@TopCarsTV what's the reasoning behind the rest of them?
@@TopCarsTV A MK2 Focus RS also has 300hp from 2.5L turbocharged Straight 5.
@@TopCarsTV I mean the same thing works for the Vectra OPC/VRX and the Passat R36 (Arteon R), but you don't see them rolling around with a lack of power.
@@hammaadhussain9974 S63 e-performance for being an angry 700hp luxury boat. Why?
Caterham is so light that with 500hp it just slides all over the place, like butter in a hot pan. Grip is what makes you go fast, but with double power/weight compared to Veyron, you'll struggle to keep that Caterham stuck to the road
THE 812 LOOKS PHENOMENAL
I couldn't agree more
So astounding 😮
Had to come and see if the comments had their pitchforks out.
I’m certainly glad that I’m not the only one who took issue with that comment. Of course we all have different opinions and tastes, but the 812 is a masterful blend of functional yet graceful design, imho.
Only the F40 is better looking. 812 is absolutely gorgeous.
There is no such thing as too much horsepower, just not enough traction - Carol Shelby
Carol Shelby or anyone who knows how to drive
Just like good music can't be too loud 🔊
Isn't it Caroll Shelby? Either way he's right
Whoever this Carol Shelby person is, he doesn’t know a good amount of horsepower. A good amount for a sports car is 200 horsepower.
Ironically, he died from not having enough traction 💀
The idea of a license for high-powered cars is actually a good idea. It would stop inexperienced rich people from buying such cars and crashing them, while risking their lives and others. I think other countries should implement this.
Indeed. Today it is too easy to get a plus 350 hp car. It is just insane to think about it
It should be a driving and skills test on a sim with something realistically high powered that you can take right after your main test
Now this a gran turismo moment, gotta get all gold to get a free supercar
If a law is passed like this there is gonna be a shit ton of tuned cars
Nope
You know you are TOO EARLY when the video is just 720p
Yes
You know you are requesting pointless quality when you ask for 1080p
yeah
Do you mean 720HP🤓☝️
@@KP-Gno it’s “P”
I don't understand how you hate the 812 I think it looks menacing and the v12 sounds glorious
sounds like a chicken "Bawk, I'm scared! bawk, bawk!"
I agree man. Thing looks vicious. Is definitely not the regular Ferrari look tho for sure
@@traingameiacs your tunned jdm car sounds like an average 40 year old obese american after taco bell.
Your editing is completely nuts and this why I *love* this channel 😂. Discovered it randomly while spending time on VisioRacer videos and damn I subbed quickly 😄
Always good when you upload big man
The 812 is my favourite 😂❤😅love it
9:15 and the best looking CLK ever, when it comes to SLR looks, i personally prefer the Stirling Moss version that had simple styling. Even still i prefer the AMG DTM, while the regular SLR wouldn't be my choice
I wish I could've seen the speed 12's test drive, must've been awe inspiring to scare the lad away from putting it into production
Nice video! I like how TVR "detuned" their Speed12 engine from the official 800HP to 840HP... admitting that the actual power figure was way larger! 😆
Also, the AM Vantage looks way cooler than the Virage it's based on... which adds exactly to your point! It could easily be tuned down to around 450HP and still be the super cool looking car that it is and still boast respectable performances...
First time here. I'm five months late, but I loved the content so much. The commentary was insanely funny and humorous. Love it. Love your work Sir, you're just awesome.
One of those Great days when youtubers like this one upload.
If I were to add a car, it would be the Land Rover Defender 90 with a V8. Having over 500 horsepower in a two door suv with a high center of gravity is sort of an accident waiting to happen. Even Doug DeMuro agrees on that one.
Doug is a example of a person who knows nothing about cars ,just watch is videos and the doug score ,but he does know about cup holders. As an example see him talking about a lamborguini 2+2 the espada ,he talks about the radio cassette player like if it was the brand who installed in the way he´s seeing and don´t have a brain to think that the place for the radio is not how it is in that car. I had a land-rover td110 and drove it off road for thousands of kms due to my work each month i would drive around 3.000 or more kms ,having using it to work for 15 years and now it´s just peersonalised and kept using it´s original BMW engine who is already powerfull enough ,defender is the model today but before it was just land-Rover and range-Rover but BMW made some extra models calling to the original land-rover, Defender, and just remenber that it was considered the most enviroment friendly car of the world ,compared to new electric cars ,mainly because it uses no plastic in it´s building,there are acessories but those extras i don´t have them in my car. They say Rover closed doors but so many new models driving around, Doug should be banned from youtube or call to his videos, comedy because it does made us laugh for years,he talks like all cars were made when he was 16 but no there are cars with 60 years or more on the roads
Absolutely LOVE your videos!! LOL. I had a rotten day until I tuned in to your vids. Great sense of humor....I laughed my butt off and dug for more of you videos......keep up the good work!!
Educational! Informative! ......and exciting to see too much POWER!
Bro is the definition of : underated
True AF
0:58 two superchargers? That's overkill. No wonder you don't hear of that car anymore.
*cough cough* CCXR *cough cough*
Another thing with the LS4 cars is that they’re attached to the atrocious 4T65 transmission that could barely handle the 200hp N/A 3800. They go through transmissions just about as much as they do tires
Thanks to this video, now i know something i didnt know i needed.
Get notifys in my car like those on the TVR.
Where is Koenigsegg Gemera? That thing literally has 2300 HORSEPOWERRRR!!!!
Maybe it's slow. We don't know yet
@@TopCarsTVbruh
The dodge demon wasn’t even on there as well and it’s got over 1000
I don't think "hypercar" will cut it anymore. We should start calling them "ultracars"
6:49 i laughed at this
Lets just pay respects to Michael Gambon (yes that guy from top gear)
Imagine having a detuned engine and still making as much power as a Dodge Demon
Need more content. You are super awesome ✌🏽
The 620r, 812, Tvr speed 12, clk dtm and r34 gtr might be monsters but, in their own way are really cool.
Also what about the carrera gt?
nah cgt is a ok car people just neglect the tyres
@@richardtheedition1003 also don't forget about the factory shocks in the CGT
The Carrara GT’s V10 was strong, but not too over the top and the car was extremely balanced.
Love these videos
Hello Stype I've missed you I have now missed videos worth 2 or 3 months now. Anyway keep doing your thing cuz this is quality entertainment.
The pair of 427 Supercharged "supersnake" Cobras are THE classic example of "overpowered", given how LIGHT they were.
Around the SAME horsepower as the CURRENT Hellcat, but 2500 pounds or so gave them a HIGHER power-to-weight ratio - and NO traction control in those days.
It's ironic that this popped up just now on my feed. I've just bought a TVR Cerbera v8. Although not the speed 12, it's a 2500lb car with a 400hp race engine...
Great video 😄
It's been a while that I laughed that much. Your talking, what you talk, you could do stand-up comedy! Do you?
I don't
@@TopCarsTVyou should, go for it
0:38 my heart stopped for a sec
You lost me at too much✋...don't need that negative energy 😂
The cerebera speed 12 story is awesome ! Such a crazy car.
Just like Clarkson said in the TVR Sagaris review: Just don't crash
My Kona has 310whp and it’s hard to have fun without the collision sensor telling me about a car in front most of the time.
kona in portuguese is the reprodutive aparatus of women with a c instead of a K . Our dictator in the 60´s even said to Opel to change the name of the model ASCONA, it was sold under the name 1604, it changes with the engine capacity because of the word cona it sounds the same as kona
Kona is econobox
@@AK.__ duh.
@@punemax I haven't meant that it something bad. It just type of cars that people drive. Relatively small, budget, generic design. Each one with their preferences and budget.
@@AK.__ im sorry, I get so much hate from it that im just always ready to fire back, recently I got the car tuned. Theres a video on my channel.
I think the Devel 16 prototype should've been on the list, since as you've said in your most recent video, no gearbox can handle 5000 power, and even if it did, who's gonna be able to handle let alone be brave enough to drive it?
0:01 Yes any car a woman drives>
The honorable mentions have got me thinking
finally an upload
cant get enough on you
honestly the 812 looks sick for my taste, needless to say about the n-largo body kit
Yeah you're very right I love the looks of the 812 and the aeros around the car for aerodynamics because Ferrari won't put a wing on their cars
Actually makes sense, if you're car has a higher horsepower, than you should prove you can drive it!
Love the use of Danger Ehren for the bear in the room joke on the 812 Ferrari. Nice.
Front-wheel drive 300 horsepower Impala ss it should have been four-wheel drive
Bro how did you forget Koenigsegg Gemera, I mean that's true definition of overpowered family car.
Bro!!!!!
Nice video!!!!
Ahh yes....the TVR Speed 12....what an awesome car that would have been if it was allowed to be made. Just make sure it had a full aero kit and ABS at least. I think the V12 was made by TVR joining 2 of their straight 6 engines?
You're correct about 2x Straight Six
@@TopCarsTVhey can I be mentioned
@@dyaanahmad5079 why?
yes normally is that what happens but a straight six is a more perfect engine ,the V engine doesn´t work with perfect tunning because it´s just not possible by the way both sides work, while a 6 cylinder engine works perfect even cold it doesn´t vibrate at all ,or the same as being not started like old ferrari´s correctelly working, the TVR is a great car ,i own the first version of the cerebra which if well tunned it´s one of my favorite cars, today my cars are stopped for a long time ,sometimes when starting one is in need of being tunned by a mechanic who knows how to work with them, some are only curious and when leaving the car instead of perfectelly tuned is even worst than it was
Youre becoming my favorite UA-camrs!
Yay! Thank you!
Stype channeling his *Inner Jeremy Clarkson* with these cars. Pretty great video to watch on my 32th birthday.
Ever drive a Redeye Charger? I've owned one over a year and have never had a close call because I realize how easily you can lose control if you don't respect the power. Not that I don't enjoy embarrassing the occasional wide open throttle blast. But I have to agree with Shelby that there is no such thing as too much power. It's no secret that hellcats have traction issues. Still the most fun car I have ever owned.
I recently bought an 08' Impala SS Black on Black, and I LOVE IT!! Only issue it's bone stock except I bought a chip to delete that stupid Advanced Fuel BS so that way all 8cyl fire NON-STOP!! It's not a Mustang but man what it's really fun to drive especially when ppl don't know what it is and you may an ass whooping on them. Next step is for sure a real exhaust system later on some bolt ons and cams....
There is no such thing as to much powah. Just inadequate drivers. 😉
And sometimes inadequate traction.
Great video! What are your thoughts about the Ford Shelby Mustang Mach E by the way?
The desire for power over handling only comes from those who don't know how to drive,
Hey Stype, have you ever heard of the SP Automotive chaos? This has two versions, Earth and Zero Gravity. I will talk about the Zero Gravity because it is the most powerful. The Zero Gravity version has 3000 HORSEPOWER, 0-60 in about 1.55 seconds, and a top speed of 310mph or 500 kilometers per hour! The world’s first Ultracar!!! I N S A N E
That's that Greek car. Yeah, I've heard about it, but I'll believe those numbers when the car comes out.
Also, it's incredibly ugly
The guy in the chair and trowing cashes is so funny 😂😂😂😂
8:57 MORE Torque???
After we saw the change that happened with the genesis gv80. Talk about a cars that changed from the concept model to the final model
would disagree on the Skyline. 360BHP on an AWD car is definitely not too much, the tuning scene proves it :)
Went to high-school with a kind who drove an SLR. Because his parents were both surgeons and it was a replaced Christmas gift from a year before
I like the 812 Superfast and I knew it would be on this list. It also looks fantastic and without that aero it would probably be undrivable for any normal human.
One thing about the Nevera it wasnt mentioned
The Nevera broke around 27 world records at once, _27,_ I'm someone who really doesnt like eletric cars, that is an insane milestone for any car
I would still pick tbe Cerbera, I dont have love for life whatsoever
Hell, with a lightened and caged Del Sol (2200lb) making 350whp, i had two stage boost control for traction reasons for street use
Or the 1996 840i bmw with the v12
I love the 812SF that car looks elegant
It looks better than any Lamborghini ever made
Why will you say such arh well
You have ur own opinion or point of view but to me Lamborghinis are also beautiful 😍 looking cars no hating here please
@@bestonegbegbe8144 I hate the Lamborghini look lacks elegance
@@bestonegbegbe8144 Ferraris, Aston Martins, Bentleys and Porches are more my style
@@F.C.4.U okay well that's your own opinion suit yourself
The Speed 12, official horsepower numbers was around 950, but Ive talked to a few people who drove some of the prototypes and they said it was closer to 1200hp
This are my thoughts when watching this:
this video tells me that 500hp is the limit you can have on the road, either be it an SUV or sudan, if a ferrari with 800hp is too much, then half of that would be considered enough power, so 500hp it is. 300 hp is for sports cars, and 100 to 200hp for economy cars.
Drove an 812 Superfast in vegas for an entire day. Absolutely INSANE car. Scary when you wanted it.
There is nothing like too much power, there is just not enough traction. -Carrol Shelby 🗿
300 HP is the sweet spot for me personally.
The fact that the got 400hp from each wheel just makes you how much it was making at the crank
I would also add: basically every electric crossover :)
Pretty much yeah. Honestly 250hp is enough for a regular A-to-B car. After that, focus on the range
A lot of people are getting out of touch with reality, i remember Doug Demuro saying that the new Prius is slow when it does 0-60 in like 6 seconds...
2:07 got me dying lol
What's up with the speed 12's dashboard?
This channel is so cozy...
This was interesting 😁
4:00 the 812 super fast is the Italian Dodge viper 1st gen
I want that Vantage!
i love caterham they are overpowered for their size. "one of the honorable mentions specifically the second one"
Australia had two competing high-performance Ute's. The HSV maloo with a corvette v8 and the Ford FPV 6cyl turbo or v8. The Australian widow makers
Since there are some extremely wealthy people that can afford a very limited production and expensive super car, there will be a few extreme cars with over 1000 horsepower. However, when it comes to the real world, with real city streets, real highways, and real freeways a car with around 200 horsepower is plenty of power for all the various forms of street driving
First time I hear about 2 Superchargers in one engine wtf bro💀
These men had their inner Clarksons unleashed
Everyone say it with me:
POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!
Good vid sir
Seeing that stripped purple TVR Speed 12 made me cry. 😭
Okay, I want to add two cars to this list, the M-B G900 rocket amg because it's a freaking G-wagon with 900hp, and the Dodge Challenger demon 170 because it's a 1000+hp muscle car with no hint of drivability
3:05 ahhh america !
7:45 don’t you dare remind me of the bmw 3, I have nightmares from that car
The vantage probably sounds good
finally, new vid
"There is never to much horsepower just not enough traction"-carrol shelby
Wait until he sees the new Gemera has 2300hp 😂😂
1:49
The SS Imp wasn't a bad car in the power range. It was just the so shitty unreliable 4-speed they all used until it was discontinued. Up until 2012, the SS was replaced with the more base versions overall, with the same power put in a V6 VVT and a way better transmission, a 6 speed auto. Those engines were slightly upgraded and more powerful in 2014 when the power bumped from 300 to 305. Not a huge increase, but just enough.
Going back to the SS though, if they would have thought of putting a more reliable transmission in it, also maybe make it a RWD car instead of the FWD they used, it may have actually stayed on the market.
I beg to differ about the superfast 812. Looks fabulous what are you smoking
what about the koenigsegg jesko absolut or the ssc tuatara
Ay is this the F12 berlinetta we got in asphalt nitro at the time stamp 3:44
Never heard of too much power? There's never enough.