When working on a Tecumseh engine; I usually take the muffler and the intake manifold off, 4 bolts total. Makes getting at the carb a lot easier. Good video.
This is the OG at Eliminator Performance in Canada. Just caught your channel and want to say well done. Appears you have the Techumseh engine on this Toro which is a very good engine when properly maintained. You even showed how hard it is to start these mowers with that personal pace system, i personally hate them give me a Snapper all day with the adjustable speed control and the friction wheel drive which i use as my own mower. Will check out the rest of your videos keep up the good work.
I have this same mower and it's pretty reliable. It developed a "ticking" noise so I got all ready to adjust the valve clearances only to discover it's a Tecumseh engine and it doesn't quite work the same as an OHV (is it called "side valve" ? whatever the case, it's different). Other than that, if I ignore the ticking, it still runs and pulls on the first start if I remember to use the primer bulb 5'ish times when cold starting. But I've never had an issue with the speed of it. Maybe there's a learning curve, but it goes as fast or slow as I need. If I'm pushing more to go uphill, that's compensated by the fact that it slows down on hills anyway so it seems to work out okay for me. :) All that said, when this one dies I'll probably look at something else, just because it does have its quirks, like the user unfriendliness of the maintenance for an amateur like myself.
@@ytmadpoo These engines last a very long time compared to what is being sold today. Anyone buying a new mower is foolish since a reputable repair shop or flipper will have some excellent equipment fully serviced for 1/3 the new cost.
People who aren’t familiar with Toro’s awesome Personal Pace drive system often make the mistake of pushing down on the handle which makes the drive run at full speed. What you’re supposed to do is hold on to the handle and simply walk at your own speed without pumping your arms and pushing down on the handle. That way the mower matches your speed and mowing is effortless. It’s a very good system, best in the business IMO.
@@waynestefinashen239 yes, I can see how steep hills could definitely be a problem. A situation like that would be ideal for a Husqvarna AWD mower with the Easy Walk style system that AYP uses or a Honda Smart Drive type.
I've seen the Toro snowmaster with the personal pace now I've always wondered how that works on those when you run into some hard or snow. I was thinking in that case there would be a tendency to push harder even though you're not trying to.
This is my mower, purchased it in 2005?, has been running flawlessly ever since, with minimal maintenance (oil change 2x/season, air filter 1 per, sparkplug changed about 3 times over 20yrs) for almost 20 years, through both nice and crappy terrain. Finally, after 20 years, a drive cable broke and I just replaced it - that's been all so far. Other than that, this thing just keeps on going, 2 hour mowes every week from April to October, all original parts still there. After winter, it always starts on a first pull, with the fresh gas in. Looks like it'll last to the end of my days. They don't make them like that anymore...
We had an old toro growing up and I got it going years later after it had quit running. If you hit a big enough rock, the stepped flywheel key would twist and throw the timing off enough to make it not run. Design flaw or safety feature? Helping a buddy mow as a kid I hit a piece of iron in the grass and bent the crank, made it vibrate. Slo blo stepped flywheel keys
When I was a kid I had a tecumseh on a go cart. I spent more time working on it a pulling the rope than I did rideing it. I sold that engine for scrap and got a harbor fart engine. Best 125 I ever spent 😂
Hey Brad, great fix! I have a 24 year old Sears mower with a Tecumseh like that on it. It hasn't given me lick of problems until this season, where it now smells like raw gasoline until the tank slooowly drains. I'll just keep it outside under a patio until fall. It might just need a new bowl gasket. My mower has never sputtered by lifting the front off the ground. The way I make the engine easier to start (and hands-free at idle) is by wrapping a Velcro strap cable organizer around the top-handle/kill-lever. You might need a longer length of that type of Velcro strip with that bulkier handle.
Zombie i would check the oil level to ensure the needle valve is properly seating and you are not flooding the crankcase with fuel. If the intake goes upwards into the cylinder from the carb this will not happen but you should see fuel in the air filter then and not in the crankcase. It only takes a small piece of dirt to cause this to happen.
These Techumseh carbs are easy to clean and you may need to replace the rubber seat but the rebuild kits are relatively cheap. UA-cam has some excellent videos of carb cleaning these carbs but take pics so you get all the linkage in the proper holes prior to disassembly. Remove the intake from the cylinder head it is the easiest way to get the carb off.@@ZombiedustXXX
The drive system works as intended. Did you check the belt and or replace it. You can adjust the cable that tightens the belt drive. The rear wheels probably need to be serviced. There are keyways and small springs that neeed to be cleaned in the wheel drive axle. While the briggs powered recycler seems robust I personally use the same model you have and really enjoy it.
it is just amazing what people throw out. i have been getting stuff off the curb for many years, it is unbelievable what people throw out. then i kind of laugh and kind of OMG seeing what the hardware store is trying to sell. push or walk behind ? $500 to $800 for electric mowers about that size. get a nice one off the curb spend maybe $10 or $20 to get it going. if you pick a bad one don't worry, somebody else is going to throw one out. Brad got his to look like brand new.. they put too many safety devices for me.
Hi Brad! Nice job mate. I would have liked to have seen a close-to-the-ground, perspective shot of the section you mowed, like a good stickybeak at a haircut! Especially since it's nice underneath, you could fill up a cooking oil sprayer with a 50 - 50 mix of kerosine & chainsaw chain & bar oil, & give it all a spray under there & on the blades. Not only is this a good rust preventative but the grass doesn't stick to the metal. The chainsaw oil smells a bit 'sulphurish' like gear oil, but it's sticky as buggery! Probly spray it under your car too with a spraygun.
I've had a lot of fun working on these old Tecumseh engines. They're actually pretty good engines, but the issue was they were cheap, and into the early 2000s, their quality went to poop.. But that LV195EA is a sweet engine. They used it on the Lawnboys.. The carb is always the weak point on these engines, and gum up easily. Edit: People also were poor at maintaining them
I am now at approximately 34 minutes 15 seconds into your video can you talk about design flaws in your pressing on the plastic handle when you're going trying to start it well that's what the metal bar handle is for when you're pulling to start it hold on to the metal part of the handle not the drive part😊😊
If it won't start and there is fuel , remove that carb float bowl . Engineers changed that bowl mount bolt to a jet - so the lowest point in the fuel system that usually collects all the dirt , now fouls the engine . There is a special place in hell for those types of people .
i just got one exact same, bought new carby off ebay and it idles fine but just bogs down in thicker grass in conjunction with the self propell. Spark plug is clean, needs an oil change but i cant think what else would cause it to bog down under load. compression feels fine
These are the best engines. I've been doing this for years and I've never had a techumseh carb I couldn't get to come around. The motors are powerful and the way the oiling system works makes them long lasting. When taking hr carb off, just remove the muffler. Use a long extension on your driver to reach and a long hemostat to hold the nut. Put it back on the same way. It's not as easy as a Briggs but not bad. I can take it off, clean and put it back in under 15 minutes. I hate these drive systems. The cheap plastic transmission is prone to failure. I have 10 mowers right now and 8 of them are Toro personal pace with bad transmissions. I just remove them and make good push mowers.
Keep it up man. I absorb this stuff. I have fixed 3 mowers this summers by each actually being the plastic Jet. All those toros. With Briggs and stratton newer auto chokes usually this is the issue as you also found earlier. Hahah. Good for us but bad for those buying the poor design. I just got to where i can oull them and clean in 15 minutes or less now...lol.
Holy cow my family and I used to live in Crestwood Brad back in the 70's I was about a year old or 2 at the time but I do remember a little from back then at my house. good job on getting that Tecumseh engine running right cause I had one a little over 20 years ago and I could never get it to run right and even brand new I followed the instructions to the t and it took me almost an hour to get the darn thing to start and right about the time I was going to return it it fired up. I also had to replace the carb on it 20 years ago and it never ran right after and it was an oem carb so I went out and bought a new mower with a briggs on it and never had a problem.
@@Fixologist1 Port Colborne Ontario not far from the shore of Lake Erie and only a few blocks from the Welland Canal, nice and cool here during the summer due to the breeze off the lake very nice.
I bought a 2002 recycler 22 6.5 horse in great shape and runs great he tuned it for me before I bought it i paid 225 did I pay to much for it how did I do are they good mowers I live in Platteville wisconsin
Always a great engine especially on snowblowers they run forever when properly maintained. Have not seen one with a broken connecting rod like the B&S, Kohler etc.
Hey Brad, where do you get your countdown numbers from? In fact, I'd like a bit of info about all your interstitials and titular intros, that's plainly an excuse to use a funny word. I seem to remember one based on a Universal, perhaps a London Weekend Television, anyhow, I'm sure you know the stuff, just how do you do it?
Don't waste your time with the video.Because the guy does not know what he's doing. A tail tail sign is the fact that he doesn't know that the engine may not have a drain Plug at off for where the drain plug would be. It just doesn't have enough experience or knowledge.
When working on a Tecumseh engine; I usually take the muffler and the intake manifold off, 4 bolts total. Makes getting at the carb a lot easier. Good video.
I take top cover and muffler off. The 2 carburetor bolts remove nuts carburetor side leave the bolts in remove carburetor
This video ended up being one of the best on Tecumseh carburetor maintenance and repair.
The red straw looking object is the air Venturi for the primer👍
This is the OG at Eliminator Performance in Canada. Just caught your channel and want to say well done. Appears you have the Techumseh engine on this Toro which is a very good engine when properly maintained. You even showed how hard it is to start these mowers with that personal pace system, i personally hate them give me a Snapper all day with the adjustable speed control and the friction wheel drive which i use as my own mower. Will check out the rest of your videos keep up the good work.
Thanks for the kind words. I subbed your channel.
@@Fixologist1Thanks actually Eliminator Performance is my son Jake's Company and channel i am just the OG at EP
I have this same mower and it's pretty reliable. It developed a "ticking" noise so I got all ready to adjust the valve clearances only to discover it's a Tecumseh engine and it doesn't quite work the same as an OHV (is it called "side valve" ? whatever the case, it's different). Other than that, if I ignore the ticking, it still runs and pulls on the first start if I remember to use the primer bulb 5'ish times when cold starting.
But I've never had an issue with the speed of it. Maybe there's a learning curve, but it goes as fast or slow as I need. If I'm pushing more to go uphill, that's compensated by the fact that it slows down on hills anyway so it seems to work out okay for me. :)
All that said, when this one dies I'll probably look at something else, just because it does have its quirks, like the user unfriendliness of the maintenance for an amateur like myself.
@@ytmadpoo These engines last a very long time compared to what is being sold today. Anyone buying a new mower is foolish since a reputable repair shop or flipper will have some excellent equipment fully serviced for 1/3 the new cost.
The head bolt hole is where the muffler gaurd mounted but it’s missing.
You sure cause my man thinks it's an (oil Drain).... right next to the sparkinator....lol.
People who aren’t familiar with Toro’s awesome Personal Pace drive system often make the mistake of pushing down on the handle which makes the drive run at full speed. What you’re supposed to do is hold on to the handle and simply walk at your own speed without pumping your arms and pushing down on the handle. That way the mower matches your speed and mowing is effortless. It’s a very good system, best in the business IMO.
Problems come up when you need to climb a hilly section on the lawn it is hard not to push down too far, do you agree?
@@waynestefinashen239 yes, I can see how steep hills could definitely be a problem. A situation like that would be ideal for a Husqvarna AWD mower with the Easy Walk style system that AYP uses or a Honda Smart Drive type.
I've seen the Toro snowmaster with the personal pace now I've always wondered how that works on those when you run into some hard or snow. I was thinking in that case there would be a tendency to push harder even though you're not trying to.
True
@wanynestefinashen239 no
This is my mower, purchased it in 2005?, has been running flawlessly ever since, with minimal maintenance (oil change 2x/season, air filter 1 per, sparkplug changed about 3 times over 20yrs) for almost 20 years, through both nice and crappy terrain. Finally, after 20 years, a drive cable broke and I just replaced it - that's been all so far.
Other than that, this thing just keeps on going, 2 hour mowes every week from April to October, all original parts still there.
After winter, it always starts on a first pull, with the fresh gas in. Looks like it'll last to the end of my days.
They don't make them like that anymore...
We had an old toro growing up and I got it going years later after it had quit running. If you hit a big enough rock, the stepped flywheel key would twist and throw the timing off enough to make it not run. Design flaw or safety feature? Helping a buddy mow as a kid I hit a piece of iron in the grass and bent the crank, made it vibrate. Slo blo stepped flywheel keys
Hilarious! Came for the lawnmower video and heard the Guitologist.
I always take pix of that damn throttle/ gov linkage of those Texumsehs
When I was a kid I had a tecumseh on a go cart. I spent more time working on it a pulling the rope than I did rideing it. I sold that engine for scrap and got a harbor fart engine. Best 125 I ever spent 😂
Hey Brad, great fix! I have a 24 year old Sears mower with a Tecumseh like that on it. It hasn't given me lick of problems until this season, where it now smells like raw gasoline until the tank slooowly drains. I'll just keep it outside under a patio until fall. It might just need a new bowl gasket. My mower has never sputtered by lifting the front off the ground. The way I make the engine easier to start (and hands-free at idle) is by wrapping a Velcro strap cable organizer around the top-handle/kill-lever. You might need a longer length of that type of Velcro strip with that bulkier handle.
Zombie i would check the oil level to ensure the needle valve is properly seating and you are not flooding the crankcase with fuel. If the intake goes upwards into the cylinder from the carb this will not happen but you should see fuel in the air filter then and not in the crankcase. It only takes a small piece of dirt to cause this to happen.
@@waynestefinashen239 Thank you. I will check that out.👍
These Techumseh carbs are easy to clean and you may need to replace the rubber seat but the rebuild kits are relatively cheap. UA-cam has some excellent videos of carb cleaning these carbs but take pics so you get all the linkage in the proper holes prior to disassembly. Remove the intake from the cylinder head it is the easiest way to get the carb off.@@ZombiedustXXX
@@waynestefinashen239 Thanks again!
The drive system works as intended. Did you check the belt and or replace it. You can adjust the cable that tightens the belt drive. The rear wheels probably need to be serviced. There are keyways and small springs that neeed to be cleaned in the wheel drive axle. While the briggs powered recycler seems robust I personally use the same model you have and really enjoy it.
it is just amazing what people throw out. i have been getting stuff off the curb for many years, it is unbelievable what people throw out. then i kind of laugh and kind of OMG seeing what the hardware store is trying to sell. push or walk behind ? $500 to $800 for electric mowers about that size. get a nice one off the curb spend maybe $10 or $20 to get it going. if you pick a bad one don't worry, somebody else is going to throw one out. Brad got his to look like brand new.. they put too many safety devices for me.
I've trash picked two mowers last week
Brad you have great water pressure at your place.
Take the exhaust off and there are two more bolts to the intake. Take those off and you'll have access to that carb bolt.
Hi Brad! Nice job mate. I would have liked to have seen a close-to-the-ground, perspective shot of the section you mowed, like a good stickybeak at a haircut!
Especially since it's nice underneath, you could fill up a cooking oil sprayer with a 50 - 50 mix of kerosine & chainsaw chain & bar oil, & give it all a spray under there & on the blades. Not only is this a good rust preventative but the grass doesn't stick to the metal. The chainsaw oil smells a bit 'sulphurish' like gear oil, but it's sticky as buggery! Probly spray it under your car too with a spraygun.
Great suggestion. I’ll try to remember to do that in future videos.
These videos always make my days/nights…
😊😊😊
That threaded hole is for a heat shield (guard).
I've had a lot of fun working on these old Tecumseh engines. They're actually pretty good engines, but the issue was they were cheap, and into the early 2000s, their quality went to poop..
But that LV195EA is a sweet engine. They used it on the Lawnboys..
The carb is always the weak point on these engines, and gum up easily.
Edit: People also were poor at maintaining them
The Lawnmower Man!
I am now at approximately 34 minutes 15 seconds into your video can you talk about design flaws in your pressing on the plastic handle when you're going trying to start it well that's what the metal bar handle is for when you're pulling to start it hold on to the metal part of the handle not the drive part😊😊
If it won't start and there is fuel , remove that carb float bowl . Engineers changed that bowl mount bolt to a jet - so the lowest point in the fuel system that usually collects all the dirt , now fouls the engine . There is a special place in hell for those types of people .
You all just watched him cut his grass
Lol
Get a wood chipper up and running for those damned Mesa Boogie amps lol
You take it off together
i just got one exact same, bought new carby off ebay and it idles fine but just bogs down in thicker grass in conjunction with the self propell. Spark plug is clean, needs an oil change but i cant think what else would cause it to bog down under load. compression feels fine
i may have to rebuild the carby to check it out
These are the best engines. I've been doing this for years and I've never had a techumseh carb I couldn't get to come around. The motors are powerful and the way the oiling system works makes them long lasting. When taking hr carb off, just remove the muffler. Use a long extension on your driver to reach and a long hemostat to hold the nut. Put it back on the same way. It's not as easy as a Briggs but not bad. I can take it off, clean and put it back in under 15 minutes. I hate these drive systems. The cheap plastic transmission is prone to failure. I have 10 mowers right now and 8 of them are Toro personal pace with bad transmissions. I just remove them and make good push mowers.
Keep it up man. I absorb this stuff. I have fixed 3 mowers this summers by each actually being the plastic Jet. All those toros. With Briggs and stratton newer auto chokes usually this is the issue as you also found earlier. Hahah. Good for us but bad for those buying the poor design. I just got to where i can oull them and clean in 15 minutes or less now...lol.
Holy cow my family and I used to live in Crestwood Brad back in the 70's I was about a year old or 2 at the time but I do remember a little from back then at my house. good job on getting that Tecumseh engine running right cause I had one a little over 20 years ago and I could never get it to run right and even brand new I followed the instructions to the t and it took me almost an hour to get the darn thing to start and right about the time I was going to return it it fired up. I also had to replace the carb on it 20 years ago and it never ran right after and it was an oem carb so I went out and bought a new mower with a briggs on it and never had a problem.
Great buy for this mower fully serviced around here easy $200 sell
Where you located?
Port Colborne, Ontario, Canada just along the shores of Lake Erie@@Fixologist1
@@Fixologist1 Port Colborne Ontario not far from the shore of Lake Erie and only a few blocks from the Welland Canal, nice and cool here during the summer due to the breeze off the lake very nice.
I bought a 2002 recycler 22 6.5 horse in great shape and runs great he tuned it for me before I bought it i paid 225 did I pay to much for it how did I do are they good mowers I live in Platteville wisconsin
How about checking the oil level before trying to start it??😊
They discontinued manufacturing Tecumseh engines in 2008.
I know. Sad.
Always a great engine especially on snowblowers they run forever when properly maintained. Have not seen one with a broken connecting rod like the B&S, Kohler etc.
Nice mower
Cool channel Brad!!!
See you at the goodwill's😅
I like to fix those
My first instinct is that they dumped it on that side to dump the gasoline out of it
Is easier to remove the exhaust if you need to remove the carburetor.
Take muffler off will be easier to get carb off
Hey Brad, where do you get your countdown numbers from? In fact, I'd like a bit of info about all your interstitials and titular intros, that's plainly an excuse to use a funny word. I seem to remember one based on a Universal, perhaps a London Weekend Television, anyhow, I'm sure you know the stuff, just how do you do it?
A Tecumseh ... Just do the easy thing, take the engine off, replace with a 6HP Briggs Quantum, or a Honda GSV190, now you're happy.
that is the werst mower i have ever work on
No
Can’t you just buy a new carburetor for like $15 and save all that time?
If you don’t walk so fast it won’t go to fast.
It’s a Tecumseh engine.
the title did indicate that yes
From a RN....please wear disposable gloves when working with petrobased chemicals!!!
Not a Toro engine. Toro doesn't manufacture engines.
The country is running low on water. All because of used mower. Please logic. I’m in need of water sir. Please
It’s called the water cycle.
Don't waste your time with the video.Because the guy does not know what he's doing. A tail tail sign is the fact that he doesn't know that the engine may not have a drain Plug at off for where the drain plug would be. It just doesn't have enough experience or knowledge.
Just remove the muffler to get easy access to the bolt on the engine side of the carb.
brad take the elbow with carb... easy
Be careful with elbow if they break about $8 us to buy at the Toro dealer
Agreed, take the carb with the elbow, super easy that way.