Psychopath Or Autistic - Do Autistic People Have Empathy?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- What is the difference between Autism & Psychopathy? Do Autistic people feel Empathy? What are the two main types of empathy?
In this video, I'll be explaining the two main types of empathy: Cognitive Empathy & Adaptive Empathy - detailing how these relate to Autism or Psychopathy, and giving you some examples of deficiencies in each type of empathy!
*Autistic people are generally born with lower innate abilities to use cognitive empathy, but just like most things in life... many people can work on developing this skill
I'd like to clarify a few things:
1. There are many cases where autistic people may not understand a person's situation or emotions due to lack of that personal experience. With proper time, processing and clear explanations, they are likely to empathise once they understand.
2. There can be cases where autistic people have their own set of moral codes/rules for living, which may not be considered moral or lawful by the majority of society. Some autistic people never recover from trauma/isolation, and so develop jaded views of the world and people - this can lead to a learnt disconnection, and may lead them to act on unlawful desires.
3. Sometimes autistic people can go into meltdown, when stressed, anxious or pressured enough. Some autistic people can display outburst of anger, and this may lead to abusive behaviour in some cases.
I think it's important to emphasize that if you are being physically abused by any partner/relation, it's very important that you seek help - abuse is abuse, no matter if they are autistic or not.
If they are verbally/emotionally abusive, this may be a result of crossed wires or unhealthy methods of communicating your feelings to each other. It's always important to stress that many neurotypicals struggle with communicating with, and understanding autistic people - but this goes both ways in an equal relationship. Work needs to be done to bridge those gaps and make a relationship healthy and functional.
Just as with everyone in this world, autistic people can be abusive, narcissistic and toxic. This video is meant to address the MAJORITY of autistic people - in other cases, although they may not be Psychopathic, autistic people can show both abusive/selfish behaviours.
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sometimes the empathy and emotions are TOO strong and overpowering which is why we have to shut them down and control the flow otherwise it will encompass us.
I feel that, I would definitely associate with the 'emotional sponge' description!
Word - I feel it and confirm that's how it is with me.
Most "normies" have a very difficult time "shutting down" strong feelings of empathy.
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Are you woman? Because man and woman autism different I think woman got empathy too much
Autistic people usually don't like harming others. They have a strong sense of justice, and feel very strongly about what they believe is right or wrong.
Psychopaths, on the other hand, just don't care about others, or they may actually derive pleasure from causing harm.
Hopefully the right kind of justice and not the sjw false kind.
I have empathy to the point where I get upset at seeing ambulances running with lights and sirens because it means someone, a complete stranger, is sick or hurt.
I don't, however, show it the way other people might expect it to be shown.
OTOH, when my daughter had a bad medication reaction, collapsed, and had trouble breathing I turned into an absolute machine in getting her to the ER. I needed to be absolutely coldly rational to deal with the situation and that's what I became. The breakdown came later.
Yeah I'm actually overwhelmed by feeling what other people feel sometimes.
When it comes to handling dangerous or stressful or even very sad situations I'm a robot.
It just makes sense that at those times emotion of any kind is really a hindrance.
I used to be worried about that until I was told no, sociopaths are manipulative, I'm just oblivious
Autistic people also tend to lack the "mind-reading" skills needed to effectively manipulate someone.
Thank you. Well said.
smart autistics can be manipulative lol
People without autism can’t explain this the way you just did. Thank you so much 💜
We do have empathy.
We do indeed! :D
Thank you. I am subscribing. 😊 My 6 year old grandson is autistic. He is fortunate to be very verbal. We live in Seattle and this city is rich in resources. He taught him self to read by age 3. Reads faster than I can and corrects me if I miss read something. He just finished preschool at the University of Washington. Amazing program mixing all spectrums with no spectrums. So amazing!!! In addition he has been to Spanish language school and supposedly can speak with no accent. I don't know , since I don't speak Spanish he thins it's silly to speak Spanish to me. 🤪his biggest issue is socially. He has intense tantrums and can be very strong and destructive at times. He has amazing parents.
He loves to pretend he is a cat and told me the other day that all cats are autistic. He said he has a book about it. I asked him to bring it over and read it to me.
His Dad thinks he is autistic too. We love him dearly, and agree. 😊 It's expensive to get tested as an adult. We all are learning a lot about how brains work and have a very supportive extended network of teachers, therapists family and friends.
Thanks so much for tuning in! (apologies for the typo)
I'd like to clarify a few things:
1. There are many cases where autistic people may not understand a person's situation or emotions due to lack of that personal experience. With proper time, processing and clear explanations, they are likely to empathise once they understand.
2. There can be cases where autistic people have their own set of moral codes/rules for living, which may not be considered moral or lawful by the majority of society. Some autistic people never recover from trauma/isolation, and so develop jaded views of the world and people - this can lead to a learnt disconnection, and may lead them to act on unlawful desires.
3. Sometimes autistic people can go into meltdown, when stressed, anxious or pressured enough. Some autistic people can display outburst of anger, and this may lead to abusive behaviour in some cases.
I think it's important to emphasize that if you are being physically abused by any partner/relation, it's very important that you seek help - abuse is abuse, no matter if they are autistic or not.
If they are verbally/emotionally abusive, this may be a result of crossed wires or unhealthy methods of communicating your feelings to each other. It's always important to stress that many neurotypicals struggle with communicating with, and understanding autistic people - but this goes both ways in an equal relationship. Work needs to be done to bridge those gaps and make a relationship healthy and functional.
Just as with everyone in this world, autistic people can be abusive, narcissistic and toxic. This video is meant to address the MAJORITY of autistic people - in other cases, although they may not be Psychopathic, autistic people can show both abusive/selfish behaviours.
Thank you for adding point #2.
This is what I was looking for after searching psychopathy and autism. I didn't know where I stand. I am not diagnosed, but I think I must be autistic and learned to use psychopathic tendencies to adapt and survive throughout my life. Now at 50+ years, my life is a big empty, and I can only find the reason to survive is to care for someone else. So now I just survive and slowly die, day by day.
@@mkpleco This started happening to me after experiencing several relationships where I was abused or treated unfairly. It's exhausting to keep learning all these little social things through trial and error when you feel like you're 20 years behind everyone else, even more so when your efforts aren't understood or appreciated. So I threw up my hands and developed a very strong "I don't give a sh*t, I just am who I am" kind of attitude. I rarely felt emotions one way or the other, including guilt or concern for others. I probably hurt a lot of people in retrospect.
My situation did improve eventually. I fell in love with an exceptionally warm-hearted person and he has thawed me out over the years... I still have an odd personality and am quite insular, but I no longer someone who would qualify as being on the spectrum (I don't think) and now I'm quite empathetic. It's never too late.. I wish you similar good fortune.
Thank you for this video. I'm a psychopath with a roommate that has similar traits to mine and we'd been wondering what the difference was because we knew she wasn't a psychopath and I pointed out that she might be autistic - so she was tested and sure enough, I was right - but we had been wondering the explanation as to why we shared similar traits and this absolutely makes sense and why our dynamic works.
Even being a psychopath, do you feel anything for your friend?
If she died, what would her reaction be?
@@psicopataautista7132 Having psychopathy doesn't omit you from feelings; I would probably be angry if someone I considered a close friend passed. Not at them, obviously (unless their passing was their doing), but at the situation.
@Hakujo Ichin Oh, was that intended for me?
You being a psychopath means you will manipulate and use her and she will not understand it. What you have in common is brutal honesty and a complete lack of empathy.
@@beckstein3936 are you incapable of feeling hurt?
I’ve ran a relationship to the ground because of my social incompetence, I recognize that it is my fault and want to fix it by learning about social structures before I go into another relationship. Thanks for the video!
I’m a psychotic on max dose meds and I have a trick, my goals and motivations, I focus around my wife and kids. Everything for them. It took a very long time to get into that mindset. It sounds lame, but my goals are to be a great dad and a great husband. I may not be either one but it makes it so I’m a somewhat functional person with relationships
Thanks!
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It’s so great to finally have a concise way to differentiate between Psychopathy and Autism!
Tremendously insightful. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this.
My pleasure! 😄
Hi Tom, thanks for a very well done video and explanation of empathy. I'm on the spectrum and haven't had a clear understanding about the disconnect between the understanding/identifying vs. feeling/wanting to help sides of empathy. It's nice to finally have an understanding and way of communicating the differences.
Thanks again!
No worries at all Dave, thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. It is a very difficult thing to work out, I toiled with my own mental sanity during my teenage years for the same reason - I think the lack of content/awareness of this out there on this issue is a culprit for this.
Take care 😁😁
I liked the talk. I understand. Autistic can not show feelings, but feels them deeply. A psychopath shows feelings on a higher level. But does not internally feel them. For me this explain works. I tend to gravitate toward autistic behavior
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Duly noted, mister!
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Remarkable insights, although I may actually remark frustratingly briefly enough as to render that compliment frivolous without clarification, negating the truth of the statement even further, and increasing the more I friggen talk about it.
It is an accomplishment of few UA-camrs to have so many videos with zero thumbs-down (thumb-downs?), I notice, unremarkably remarkfully.
Thanks for sharing your insights.
Thank you for this informational and interesting video! I've been hooked on your podcast for the past few months and really enjoyed the convos there as well. You have such a relaxing voice which makes the listening experience even better :) Much love from Finland and keep up the good work!
Hey! No worries at all, it’s my pleasure 😊 I’m really glad you are enjoying the podcast series, I don’t get a ton of feedback on it so it’s lovely to hear. Thank you 😁
I know they have empathy! I have a autistic friend and he has felt bad when my mom died. It may not show on his face but I can tell he's feeling for me.
This video so far is explaining it well to me. My therapist thinks I’m either psychopathic or possible on the spectrum. I think leaning more towards the former now. Thanks.
My experience is more of an absence or morality rather than not caring. Not caring might be the best words but it’s more like trying to explain how something tastes if I don’t have the ability to taste. I have to invent my own moral code almost based on what I’m want to get or convey.
We feel them, hyper-feel, the difference is we do it from our brains and most people feel from their hearts. We are always misunderstood. Trained? yes, you are correct. I believe it's a learned coping technique from the subconscious. We are capable of adaptive and cognitive empathy. Yes, we are truthtellers. Psychopaths (I'm related to some) study and read people to see how the person can benefit them. Every conversation is an opportunity seeking event to them. The problem is nobody likes for anyone to bluntly speak the truth while they fawn over the fake facade of the psychopath. The psychopath will pretend to follow social norms while our genuine honesty is mistaken for crass. Great video and thank you :-)
This is true
I think I have both. I am diagnostized as autistic and score hight on certain psychopathy tests. Autistics can be both hypo and hyper senstitive, I think I am hyposensitive to emotions. Important, this just applies if tests distinguish between primary psychopathy and sociopathy. I am not impulsive or narcicistic, I just dont feel much or along with others.
That’s sounds like Alexithymia to me 😊
@@ThomasHenley thats definetly part of me.
curious whether there is a difference between how it works in psychopathy vs autism when emotions are low. I am a 'little bit' autistic, generally hyposensitive, but have come to suspect over the years that I have feelings quite like a normal person but that there is a literal disconnect in my brain between the emotional part of my brain and my conscious brain, so then I'm just simply not aware of what's happening. I may have other symptoms that spill over finally if the emotion gets strong enough, and then I'm usually confused about it like it came out of nowhere. I wonder if it works the same way for psychopaths where they are completely disconnected from their emotions despite experiencing them, or if they really just don't get them in the first place except in extreme scenarios.
On the descriptions of cognitive empathy I am compelled to say that the term "magining" is either incorrect or very low for an individual of empathetic nature.
Imagining a feeling of an another's is sympathy.
Knowing and feeling it again on behalf of another is empathy..
It's such a powerful and underutilised strength in us and yet can be so painful and even debilitating.
Thank you for being so conscientious to research and share this extremely important information and education 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I was actually just thinking about this topic and also “masking” or “shifting” personalities in Autism vs Psychopathy (I started thinking about psychopathy after watching some scenes from The Dropout, a show about Elizabeth Holmes &she was rlly good at making ppl feel like she was just like them in order to manipulate them).
I know autistic ppl, esp girls, who were rlly good at shifting personalities based on the social group they were in. But it was a defense mechanism from previous traumas around bullying and exclusion rather than a means to manipulate or get what they want.
Also I’m pretty sure I’m autistic (Lot of evidence looking back at my life and opinions from those I trust), I just need to confirm my diagnosis.
And I’m also sure I was best friends w/ a psychopath but am no longer, her damage was more psychological but this guy’s description of both is spot on. The last time I talked to her I made it so clear how hurt I was and she basically ignored& blocked me. I also unfortunately think autistic ppl have this “naivety” about them sometimes due to missing social cues and work needed to be done on emotional cognition, which may lead them to be taken advantage of. But yes, we definitely feel empathy and generally when we “appear” psychopathic it’s bc legitimately something is not registering or we have trouble dealing with some emotions, like anger. But the guilt and self-loathing we live with for the times we “messed up” is very real. Unlike psychopaths who only care about themselves and don’t care much about the hurt they cause along the way.
I feel that
my old friend, who was probably a real psycho, was male and had nearly no empathy.
I got ads and traits on asd.
As soon as you feel anxious, you can be sure you aren't a cold blooded psychopath.
While some new studys suggest a new group of highly emotional psychopaths exists, we can be for sure, that the current state is good for self protection.
As someone with traits on asd, its hard to spot lies since its not so trivial to read the emotions.
Everything is complicated kind of...
Thanks for making this. My son is autistic, and over the years as my boyfriend has got to know him better, he's questioned if he is also autistic. And while he does have many of the same traits as many autistic people, I didn't think *HE* is. However, he does fit the profile of psychopath better, and (as I'm finding out today) fits even better into the "new" personality trait, Dark Empath. I did start to think he may be autistic as well because he does show empathy (sometimes to extremes). But this video is very helpful in pinpointing the differences much more succinctly than I could try to.
why would a grown man notice this through your child? lol
I fully agree about the difference between autism and psychopathy but I have a slightly different perspective on empathy in autism. To begin with the types of empathy, there are three in fact: cognitive (an ability to figure out what the other is feeling), emotional (an ability to feel what other people are feeling) and behavioural (an ability to act on one's feelings of empathy). Maybe it is somewhat different depending on a segment of the spectrum a person with autism finds themselves on, but, as an overarching rule, people with autism have very strong emotional empathy (what you call "emotional sponge" in the comments below) but do not necessarily know how to act on it appropriately. You might have noticed it if you worked with autistic children.
The deficit in behavioural empathy is related to contextual blindness in autism (processing info acontextually) which leads to social awkwardness, of course.
Hey, thanks for thoughts! I do think the adaptive element could have been explored more in detail, I’d that for those autistic people without a good social understanding (like children) may not respond appropriately in the eyes of social norms... usually when one understands an emotion they will react in a supportive manner, although it’s definitely something worth digging into 😁
my dad was a psychopath their are definitely huge differences in my experience people that are on the spectrum don't want to hurt others and if they see that they are will make amends have many autistic friends possibly because i have mosaic down syndrome a lot of people with mds wind up being on the spectrum never been tested but not surprised it's way more than the amount of people you would see just by chance great video
Thank you for sharing this Anna, I’m glad my video struck a chord for you. I’ve had my own dealing with sociopathic/psychopathic individuals in my own life... I think being autistic I’m able to dig behind the charades and games they play, where not many of the NTs involved couldn’t
Thanks for sharing once again 💙
Just come across your channel. You are really interesting and informative 🙂 On a slightly different tangent, have you heard of the Autistic stare? I am 43 and literally in the last few months I have realised it is potentially a problem in public! I am trying to understand what causes it and what goes through ones mind during this time!
The amount of times that I have been in public and start focusing on a person. My friend would repeatedly tell me to stop it because it is inappropriate and not socially acceptable. It is like I have been hypnotised and I have just one focus out of millions of other things and details that are occurring around me.
These days I try my very best not to become fixated, but it does not come natural. My eyes end up darting all around and it is just as uncomfortable as talking to someone and looking them in the eye- not natural.
If you happen to have any knowledge or experience about this topic, then it is much appreciated!!
Maybe it is a type of dissociation, or spontaneous seizure. For an instant you have a lapse of consciousness. It is your way to escape the moment, happens unconsciously and can’t be controlled
As a fellow Aspie, it's astonishing how frequently I've seen other Aspies labeled "psycho" just because we don't fit the neurotypical mold (it's never happened to me, but Aspie empathy makes it feel way closer to home)
I definitely agree! There’s a lot of misunderstanding on expression, although people may know about it, it’s surprising how often they forget!
Thanks for this, Tom. Interesting stuff. I had an Autism Quotient of 48/50 and an Empathy Quotient of 20. Apparently anything below 30 is regarded as low empathy. Yet I always felt I was very empathetic. I think I had developed a lot of sympathetic abilities which I mistakenly thought was empathy. I spend a lot of time trying to put myself in other people's shoes and I think it works but it takes a lot of energy.
No worries at Simon, thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think the problem with a lot of empathy tests is that they combine both cognitive and adaptive elements... meaning that if you take out all the questions on cognitive empathy, you may find yourself scoring very highly in empathy!
I would also agree it’s a lot more of an active effort, especially for myself 😁
@@ThomasHenley I was diagnosed over my lifetime with so many things but only on March 2020 did I get my ASC diagnosis. The NHS doctor was very thorough. It has been life changing. Unfortunately, I also suffer from Myalgic Encephalomyalitis which makes everything a lot harder. I have problems with joints and muscles which makes walking hard, and in fact, makes doing anything for long, hard.
It was a slow onset form of ME which the doc thinks is the result of a lifetime of masking. Not sure, but he could be right. Most ME is caused by a flu illness followed by a poor recovery, if at all. Many of the symptoms are like those being reported for Long Covid. All interesting stuff.
My ASC diagnosis has answered a million questions I had, and it feels like I can breath at last. I am now 64 but it has been worth the diagnosis no matter how late in life. I can stop beating myself up now.
@@simonretallick9800 Thank you so much for sharing your story. I don't think a full reply could do it justice. Thank you for being so open :)
What tests did you do?
There have been times that I have said something to try to comfort a relative or other person I knew and had it come off as insensitive, so I do feel that sometimes neurotypical may not always recognize my expressions of sympathy as sympathy. I think for me it is for the most part my expressive language that is affected more by being Autistic than my receptive language as I seem to be better at reading other people’s emotions than knowing how to respond to their emotions in a way that they want.
While it’s possible to have both Autism and Psychopathy I think often being less able to understand people’s emotions and/or being less able to understand the appropriate way to show empathy can cause Autistic people without psychopathy to be mistaken for psychopathy and so when trying to know if an Autistic person is a psychopath it’s important to make sure that apparent psychopathic qualities can’t be explained away by difficulties with reading emotions or difficulties understanding how others want their emotions to be responded to.
I feel and I sympathise (I have very high functioning autism). But over the years i managed to blend in and encompass many social qualities that i didnt have at a younger age. The thing is that because I never acted the way I felt I was never happy and i felt shallow like i wasnt myself and I also didnt have any friends and I distanced myself because i could find noone to relate to. After years I completely shut off and I broke down emotionally and mentally.. I havent cried in years or shared my emotions and i felt like I blocked myself.. I displayed alot of psychopathic tendencies but i never did anything out of spite or hate but i was a peaceful person but i was thought otherwise.. Then I was put in a psycho ward for mentally insane people and I got so bad I didnt talk for 5 days to 1 week at a time because I was so nervous and had such extreme axiety everything felt overwhelming and i felt scared.. I had no one to share my feelings with or anyone to help me truly.. After I regathered myself I faked becoming better after I disregarded my tendencies my turning off a mental switch and i became completely normal and they let me out and i took anti depressants every day but these pills didnt work and they made me feel more shallow and less human. Realise the world you live in is filled with people who are ignorant and people that will be against you just because you been broken or torn apart by societies expectations for social norms in people with my condition.. As of now I am still struggling in maintaining a couple of basic friendships and my sanity but for now i am doing okay.
You say you have empathy then say “the psycho ward for mentally insane people” people with mental illness don’t like being called psycho or insane any more than people with ASD like being called psycho or mentally insane dude
When you say adaptive empathy, are you referring to affective empathy? Or are these two separate? I’ve only heard cognitive and affective empathy but I’ve also heard cognitive and affective aren’t all encompassing. Either way great video! I have autism but I lack the emotional part of empathy as well so this is something I definitely want to learn more about.
Cognitive , affective and compassion
I may be a sociopath, have some tendencies I am sure, not as bad as my family whom are absolute psychopaths, but I do have a callousness and I am picky.
Can someone be both? My grandson is just like his dad and has a diagnosis of autism. We don't see his dad because he comitted a psycopathic crime. Hopefully my grandson doesn't turn out to be a psychopath.
Good vid and your right, this topic is not covered much. Thought I might add that my cat's name is Mr Bigglesworth.
Thanks a bunch! It’s definitely an interesting topic to discuss 😁 (great name by the way 🐱)
Person diagnosed with Aspd here and I personally don't understand why people can't fathom talking to people like us i understand that there's a stigma around this disorder and frankly. I could care less about the stigma. It's therefore reason I completely but what I would love 1 day is for nuerotypicals and other people with disorders that people with psychopathy are just people with a disorder just like everyone els im not looking for sympathy or empathy or anything like that just understanding. I don't know why it's so hard for people. To understand this disorder. It's not that hard.
What i lack as an autistic person is the ability to play back the feelings that someone has shared with me. I don’t always understand peoples emotions and get confused between someone being angry, sad, confused. I never seem to get it right unless someone outright says their emotion. And if they lie I tend not to know what the true emotion is so I go off the motion they’ve stated and respond wrongly and get them upset that I didn’t ‘read between the lines’
I get very overwhelmed by people’s emotions as well. I over feel as if the emotion is a reaction to something that happened to me. If someone is very happy I feel very happy. If someone is very upset I feel very upset as well but those emotions also disregulate me and can throw off my whole day.
Autists have difficulty understanding empathy while psychopaths have difficulty feeling empathy
both sound problematic to me lol
There is a subset of autistics who also have psychopathy, and these are the ones who commit mass shootings. For some reason autism with psychopathy seems to be an especially dangerous combination.
Most psychopaths aren't murderers, they are just trying to live their lives although they don't care about anyone else. I think since autistic people are much more likely to be bullied if that person turns out to be autistic and a psychopath they are very likely to go on a rampage. Autistic psychopaths become obsessed with violence and it becomes a special interest to them, then they commit the act as an act of revenge
I think I have both. I’m much more psychopathic than Asperger’s, but still have certain traits like obsession over certain subjects etc. Do you have any book recommendations on this overlap? I’m genuinely in need of understanding this
ASPD includes both psychopathy and sociopathy, with psychopaths being born while sociopaths being made from trauma. I think if there’s Autistic people who commit acts of violence they are more likely to be Autistic Sociopaths than Autistic Psychopaths given how common things like bullying are on Autistic people.
@@Person-ef4xj nature vs nurture ASPD isn't accurate
I was diagnosed with Asperger’s maybe 12-13 years ago, but never felt it was accurate as the list of traits and basically everyone I saw were nothing like me. I’ve been convinced for over a decade now that I’m a psychopath and by extension have delved deep into what psychopathy actually is. That being said, it seems Hans Asperger himself described Asperger’s as “autistic psychopathy”, this makes sense as I have some of the traits like obsession over certain subjects like quantum mechanics etc. Do you, or anyone who reads this know of any books that delve into Asperger’s from the perspective of how it was originally conceptualised, as opposed to what it seems to mean in recent decades?
Lots of difference between people on the spectrum and people who have psychopathy (although a person can have both):
1. Like mentioned, people on the spectrum have affective empathy but low on cognitive empathy. People who are psychopathic have high cognitive empathy and have little to no affective empathy. That’s why people who are psychopathic can manipulate people. They are good at reading people’s strengths and weaknesses.
2. People on the spectrum follows a moral code rigidly like people on the spectrum cannot lie and they follow rules. People who are psychopathic find ways to go around the rules or can lie without breaking a sweat.
3. People on the spectrum feel danger and can actually feel fear while people who are psychopathic are cool, calm and collected. People on the spectrum have an under active amygdala (fear center of the brain) and overactive nucleus accumbens (the reward center of the brain) that’s why people with psychopathy are fearless and hedonistic in nature.
4. People on the spectrum feel remorse or conscience while people who are psychopathic don’t feel remorse or have a conscience although they can fake it.
5. People on the spectrum have high tolerance for boredom and finds comfort in their routine while people who are psychopathic are easily bored and will jump from one place to the next without developing emotional roots to any place or people. People who are psychopathic have a high need for stimulation since they are easily bored.
7. People on the spectrum may feel that other people are stupid and can be blunt about it but they don’t feel superior to others while people who are psychopathic have an inflated sense of self worth (all psychopaths have narcissistic traits)
8. People on the spectrum are usually shy or aloof while people who are psychopathic can be glib and charming. They are happy all the time due to x4 dopamine. They can go from being happy to angry and back.
Two paths. Two possible futures for a mankind that cannot go on unchanged.
Two emergent subspecies: _Homo sapiens psychopathicus_ and _H. sapiens autisticus._
_Quō vadis,_ O mankind?
I think sometimes a person may have autism and also psychopathy or antisocial disorder. Am i right ?
I suppose so but I wouldn't say that in front of some autistic people because they get very defensive about it. It's unthinkable for some autistic people that autistic people can't be anything other than perfect people. Why couldn't a autistic person have a personality disorder? What's so uncomfortable or impossible about that?
0:56 same here. I didn’t even know that i have Autism until i was 17 even though i was diagnosed at 5. My parents never told me.
My parents never let me know either
@@alexmartin5101 How do you feel about your parents not telling you? Do you have a good relationship with them? None of my business I know but I'm interested.
I'm not sure it's 2% for people with ASD. I see the studies, but anecdotally, I come across more than 2% in my personal life. I wonder why that is
I’m really not sure! It was the only well backed statistic I could find at the time. I defo agree it could be much higher though!
03:28 I think you meant "affective".
Ive been dignosed with Autism that can show traits of ASPD. ( a new version of Autism) but recently i find myself understanding others and their needs. Turns out i scored high on the ASPD checklist.
it sucks when you are a vuln. narc and at the same time uncaring. gets myself in really shitty drama.
This is what I'm wondering just diagnosed with autism but I feel I am a psychopath but don't want a label especially since I feel I'm a "responsible" one.
@@jlovesj3335 i look back at my post with some slight cringe.
Humans with Autism can read faces which require cognitive empathy. It seems to be about trouble remembering faces and a greater focus at objects.
I dont know you, but people with autism has normal or elevated Empathy to emotions and stress.
Although ODD and CD can co occur with autism.
Most psychopaths dont seek help since how their brain is formed.
My whole squad is kind of on a spectrum. We argue a lot but also value each other because we all had to grow up under abuse and scrutiny for our problems. As it was just yesterday a good friend of mine for years was upset because I called his wife ugly. With no shame, no hint of irony or joking around, I was just brutally honest. And my defense was
"I mean... Aaron was saying he'd fuck my girlfriend. Wouldn't you rather your friends find her repulsive so you never have to worry about betrayal? I mean she's not here anyway. I'm not gonna hurt her feelings man. She's like a sister to me."
And I genuinely don't understand why he was so upset. I know I hurt him bad because he blocked me for a day on our group and he knows I got like serial killer vibes about internet mods. it kinda made me laugh. I didn't think I had that much power over someone. I didn't even have to TRY. To know it was so easy to hurt someone so deeply he'd have to resort to trying to trigger me? And he admitted to it. Because he wanted me to know how he felt and how violated he felt. And I found the whole thing more interesting and quaint than good or bad.
Aaron, the coomer who'd rather fuck our girls than call them ugly trolls, said that's the difference between an autist and a psychopath. The autist couldn't control himself, he was overwhelmed by emotion. The psychopath has a very distorted emotional response.
It's gonna be cringe but a lot of those sigma memes work well here. Like autist with ugly wife? Totally Phoenix Joker. And as much as I'd like to be Patrick Bateman, I'm not. I'm Rorschach reading Ayn Rand, living in a trash can, pouring boiling oil on some reddit mod lol
"Psychopath Or Autistic - Do Autistic People Have Empathy?"
Apparently more than enough.
I’ll save you 20 minutes YES THEY CAN HAVE EMPATHY
"you can't Imagine talking to a psychopath" It's actually quite easy to talk to a psychopath, He'll make sure of it...... or else! lol.
in seriousness though, psychopaths are very good at manipulating people. Think of the stereotypical "used car salesman" , with a more polished exterior, and even more ruthlessness. He's your buddy , he's the nicest guy in the world, until he gets what he wants from you. A psycho may not quite understand what a certain emotion feels like, and how it affects them and other people, but they are quite versed in how to look like they are feeling a certain way. They are the center of attention, and they love toying with people.
That said, I know It would feel strange to interview a person who is a known criminal psychopath !
I have diagnosed Autism and am one of THE most empathetic people on all levels you will EVER meet. That stereotype that we can't empathise is WHY I got diagnosed SO LATE. It's very varied- which is why, we call it the autistic colour wheel! I would hope that one day this is removed from the diagnostic criteria.
It's different in females
Tell me something how do you feel about the current situation in the middle east, who do you empathize with?
I am so good at adaptive empathy, i know how to FEEL the situation, once i brought myself able to kiss a girl for the first time. It's amazing, and almost spiritual. Cognitive empathy never works for me, or else it makes me ruminate or worry, the B&W thinking also doesn't help. The more i practiced my form of empathy throughout the years the more respect i gained towards anything involving the human body, i tend to see people watching snuff films or freak-accident footage for adrenaline.... But this is absolutely evil in my eyes. The reason i watch gruesome things is to feel for the people involved, and bring some awareness of the situation. TRIGGER WARNING!:
(Woman with severed torso, blood shedding on the ground. What i see in her cross section are things that i wouldn't usually see but surprisingly they were always there and they make her alive. The problem 😢, is someone decided to forget that she is a living and breathing human and killed her for emotional/status gain....... that is the worrisome part. The organic matter on the ground is what's left of her beautiful past self with such a complex mind.
She isn't 2 monstrous looking pieces of flesh, she is a lost human. She is beautiful....)
Not everthing is black and white the world is technicolour.
This social justice mentality is oversimplified and not representative of ASD in reality.
Nope
This is poorly narrated. I could do better but then I would because I'm high functioning and you're just functioning.