@vekter 303 There's two 110s in this system yes. They sound exactly the same as the 112, 121, 130 modules but there's differences. Only two signal inputs into the VCF and VCA instead of 3 on the dual modules. Ditto modulation. 110 oscillator has manual PWM _or_ external PWM but not both. 112 has both. 112 oscillators have oscillator sync and the 110 doesn't. 121 filters have switched hi pass and the 110 doesn't. But the 110 is incredibly handy for getting VCO, VCF, VCA into a single module so great from a real estate perspective.
@@jordanzish i've had tons of equipment in the past - right now i use ableton with some good vsts, a midi keyboard, decent audio interface good studio monitors, good studio headphones, a simple midi controller from novation that i dont use and thats about it... even that minimal setup is quite a bit and you can do almost anything with just this...
I have fond memories of owning & using a system 100m. I had a 3 191j cabinet system, and acquired the polyphonic 4 voice keyboard you have there as well. I used it with a kenton pro4 and it worked well most of the time. It always took pride of place in my studio. Your brilliantly done video demonstrates how clean, zingy and versatile it can sound, providing you put the time in regards programming the patches; your patches sound excellent. At the time, i had a lot of work on with libraries and licensing, and the odd tuning issues on one of the dual vco modules, would cause a fair amount of bother. It was an 'all around the world ' purchase via ebay (per cabinet) and that may explain it, as they're usually more stable than any other modular due to the use of Curtis chips on all the vcas, vcos and vcfs; its the same chipset as the sh101, later prophet 5s and countless other mono & poly synths. As alluded to, i sold it on and had a tinge of regret, which my ever trusty system 100 managed to fill. I'm glad that roland made the 500 modules, but I'm waiting to see (and hear) the behringer ones in action. The latter can allow you to build up a powerful system for about the same money as it cost in 1979 to 1984; less if you factor in inflation. Here's hoping behringer's system is the dog's dangly bits. Better still, it can literally be combined with anything else now, due to the eurorack footprint.
Coming out in 1979, the 100m was built upon the designs and technology that went into other Roland synths from that era. So Jupiter 4, SH series synths and the System predecessors from earlier in the 70s. This gives you discrete circuitry oscillators, a filter based on the ba662 and a VCA also utilising the ba662. Not a Curtis chip in sight. Which makes its stability and useability impressive but not surprising given the outstanding job they did with the 700 a few years earlier.
Oooh baby, gear porn in the morning! Oh my! :D And don't underestimate the cheese there mate.. it's my bread and butter! Love those harmonies and bassline.
Love so much theese musical sound designs.. This is what modulars are made for (not just for random bleeping). Thanks a lot Alex for yet another amazing demo and all the best!
I've never understood how music didn't evolve into new genres quicker back in the day with this sort of kit. The Dial-Up patch is a perfect example of something that certainly sounds post 1990 dance culture. Generational inertia perhaps LOL. Awesome as ever Alex :-)
very pleased with you right now and just made the speech patch (amazed I've come close to this sound but never quite as close as you on my trusty 100m... Freddy Fresh
Think they're cloning every single module. They should go the whole hog and do the 160 prototype designed to connect to a Commodore 64. Then clone the Commodore 64.
Magnificent machines, I always wanted them but they cost a fortune even back in the day! But now I am very grateful to be the recent, and very proud owner of all the System-500 eurorack modules based upon them. Wonderful stuff! ;)
I've never really lusted after a system 55, 35, 15, or 10 but the 100m is a different kettle of fish. Perhaps, it's because I became really interested in owning synths around 79/80, a generational thing? A good way to start the weekend, any weekend, thanx Alex.
The System 100m is interesting because it's very late for an analogue modular synth given that was where things were a decade earlier and the direction had changed completely by 1979. So it's like the very tail end of modular and it's much slimmer and more bitesize than the monsters from the late 60s and early 70s. Guess that gives it a different appeal.
Wow! Four minutes in and my creative brain is screaming at me OOOOHH, PLAY THIS! CONNECT THIS TO THAT! WHAT IF I SEND THIS HERE?! Thanks for the instant inspiration my dude! 😄
Nicely covered. Is the composition in Patch 3 inspired by music from Peter Gabriel's 'Passion'? The chord progression feels familiar. (Have to dig out my CD to figure out which track I'm thinking of.)
Hey Alex Ball, I tried your patch 2 and I found that it was the decay time that altered the vowels!!. Sadly I only have 1 cab so couldn't try the other patches. Good job though!
Yes, totally. The whole envelope shape alters the vowels, I should have said that. In my particular patch I was using the attack to move through them but decay will also do that.
Credit for that lovely descriptive word goes to the Chart Music podcast, definitely worth a listen and sometimes features David Stubbs author of Mars By 1980, a really good read on Electronic music.
Great demo! Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed every minute of it. Although I suspect that your TR-77 (9:38) sounds were "tuned" slightly higher? Because they don't quite sound like those on my own TR-77... ;-)
I'll have to check back, but I think they were off the unit and I'd run them through an analogue mixer and eq'd and driven them a bit. Any tuning would be a digital mistake somewhere!
Great demo Alex! I think the 100m unfairly gets a bit of a bad rep for being "too vanilla" OK, so most system don't include the esoteric stuff, but if vanilla equals "musical" as it so often does with the 100m, then I'm all for the flavour! Wish I could have held onto my systems, but am sure they are making tasty tones somewhere still...
Yes, I've heard the same criticism. I don't understand that myself. The only good argument I've heard is from someone whose music didn't suit the sound of the 100m and did suit others modulars better, which was totally logical.
My favourite. Since this video I collected the entire thing, all 13 production modules and even a 1-of-a-kind prototype module. I have 6 cabs as the centerpiece of my studio. Endlessly inspiring.
Memories of cheese! Good stuff...feels liket travelling back in time. Very well done video, thanks for explaining the patches. Can't wait for the release of the Behringer clones which will make the System 100m affordable at last...
I like how the system 100m sounds but I don't understand any thing! I'm even unable to create the sound I like on my Roland SH-01 (Gaia) The only patching synth I own is the tiny Korg MS 10 and I can barely patch it the right way! Anyway, I found your channel a couple of month ago and I enjoy all your videos!
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Hey! Nice instructive videos! I have a question. In patch 4, is the sequencer triggered externally? the steps have different duration ..
Most excellent! Have you had the chance to try the Behringer clone of this system? Having an original would be beyond me (and most mortals on the planet) but putting together a modern equivalent is now a possibility.
Not tried the Behringer clone. Heard it in demos and it sounds good, but not had it for a side-by-side comparison with the original. I guess it's best to judge it on its own merit anyway. Pretty competitive prices for the modules! Especially as a four cab System like the one in this video is worth about £12,000 these days. 😬
such an amazing system, but dont you wish there had been a 14th module with the open collector ladder filter from the SH-5/System 100, rather than 'just' the jupiter/juno filter?
Another fabulous video. Having spent some time with a system 55 at the Mooglab I’ve always wanted to get my hands on a 100m system and compare. How do you think Rolands new 500 series compares sonically with the 100m?
Late reply and tuftynuts has answered above. As a bonus, here's a direct comparison of the System 100m 172 to the System 500 572 from my Instagram. The 500 is great and it sounds very similar. The only downsides are that it's a lot smaller and therefore more fiddly when you've got patch cables everywhere (like all Eurorack), the oscillator scaling is a bit funky and it makes an audible "blip" when you switch octave and the case it comes with isn't quite the right size so you have this odd little panel on one side. Other than that, fantastic. instagram.com/tv/B_D32unhkWJ/?
Alex Ball thanks for the info I will check it out. Thanks for all the great films you make - the porn music one was especially good and the recent ARP film was an absolute pleasure to watch.
If you can find a copy online, a fascinating read is *Electronic Musical Instrument’s: What They Do, How They Work,* written back in 1984 by an author named Larry Kettelkamp with a forward by Herbert A. Deutsch. It comes to mind mainly for featuring a photograph of a single cabinet from this system in chapter 3. It’s slim and 36 years old, but it’s still (potentially) worth a look.
I noticed you have videos of the system 100m as well as the sh-101. How would you compare and contrast their SOUND and could you get a convincing sh-101 tone from the 100m?
The SH-101 VCO is a CEM 3340 with simultaneous sawtooth, pulse and sub waves. The System 100m oscillators are discrete and only put out one wave at a time. You can use a gate delay to create a sub oscillator, but you need two oscillators to do the simultaneous sawtooth / pulse thing. The filter is an IR3109 in the 101 and BA662 OTA in the 100m, but they're very similar. The envelopes are very similar. So essentially, you can do everything the 101 can do with very minor differences in sound. I sold my SH-101 because it's so limited compared to the 100m.
I think the really interesting question would be why did Roland go down the modular path when Yamaha and Korg didn't? With Keith Emerson being behind a Yamaha GX-1 and in front of a giant Moog modular synth in the classic Montreal video, Yamaha certainly would have been aware of modular, so why didn't they do it?
Its quite simple really , yamaha always wanted expressive synths that they wanted to simulate natural ( read acoustic) timbre from , they thought they achieved it with the cs80 , modular for them was a step back and by 1979 yamaha was aware of the possibilities of fm as a tone generator that surpassed these clunky modulars by miles and history proved them right
Very interesting topic. I am also intrigued as to why Roland _started_ making modular synths whilst the American pioneers were leaving that behind. The 100m has to be on of the last of that era, it's really late in the story. I guess Roland made absolutely everything (their old catalogues are eye opening), so decided to do modular too.
I bought a 9-module system (with 2 x 5-module racks and the 4-octave mono keyboard) for £250 in 1989. The phase shifter / flanger module was my favourite by a long way! Yes, you heard that price right. I think you could safety add an extra '0' to that price, today.
If only you had access to the switch module or a Ryk Sequencer. I'm loving the polyphonic sound demo, sits somewhere nicely between a JP4, JP8, Ju6 and SH101; maybe I will buy some Behringer products in the not too distant future or the Frequency Central 5U stuff.
Yeah the Ryk improves upon the original 182 for sure, as much as the original is a lot of fun. Those are very rare too of course! Works nicely as a poly, I agree. The filter is the same as the SH-2, Promars and early Jupiter-4 and it has that flavour to it.
@@AlexBallMusic RYK are releasing a new M185 in Roland 100m format soon. The updated version has just launched in Eurorack. Keep and eye on : instagram.com/ryk_modular
Depends upon the module configuration. There are dual oscillator, dual filter, dual amp, and dual envelope + LFO modules. So with just those you could have two independent voices and pan as you wish. I've since got my own big 100m system and it's got 9 voices and can be as stereo as you like.
The controller looks rad. It makes me wonder if there's another modular friendly controller maybe with three octaves and full-size keys, something close to Keystep Pro but with full size keys.
Very good question. I did a demo on Instagram using the KeyStep with the 100m and it works perfectly. It is obviously small as you say. I'd be interested if another full sized multi-cv keyboard exists. Surely one of the Eurorack manufacturers has done one?
@@AlexBallMusic I'm pretty sure Novation has one (SLK or something) that also does multi-CV but it's really big. Ideal would be splittable 3-octave full size keys.
0:00 Intro
0:44 Patch 1 Drum n Bass (Demonstration)
1:44 Patch 1 Drum n Bass (Explanation)
4:04 Patch 2 Rate Speech (Demonstration)
4:39 Patch 2 Rate Speech (Explanation)
6:01 Patch 3 Jupiter 100m (Demonstration)
7:11 Patch 3 Jupiter 100m (Explanation)
8:00 Patch 4 Dial-Up (Demonstration)
9:30 Patch 4 Dial-Up (Explanation)
14:12 Outro
Patch 4 is a supercool track! Jacked :)
@vekter 303 There's two 110s in this system yes. They sound exactly the same as the 112, 121, 130 modules but there's differences.
Only two signal inputs into the VCF and VCA instead of 3 on the dual modules. Ditto modulation.
110 oscillator has manual PWM _or_ external PWM but not both. 112 has both.
112 oscillators have oscillator sync and the 110 doesn't.
121 filters have switched hi pass and the 110 doesn't.
But the 110 is incredibly handy for getting VCO, VCF, VCA into a single module so great from a real estate perspective.
If I had money, I wouldn't have money.
Correct. ;)
Welcome to the club, and I'm just sitting here with a pretty minimal starter studio by most standards.
Pretty profound statement
@@jordanzish Thats all you need man! some off the best stuff has been made on minimal gear!
@@jordanzish i've had tons of equipment in the past - right now i use ableton with some good vsts, a midi keyboard, decent audio interface good studio monitors, good studio headphones, a simple midi controller from novation that i dont use and thats about it...
even that minimal setup is quite a bit and you can do almost anything with just this...
Man, I LOVE seeing/hearing “song” stuff on modular systems instead of just ambience and techno. (Which I do also enjoy btw)
And this guy can do it I like how his stuff is always melodic and catchy.
We need a modular-pop movement. Like synthpop but with less focus on synths in general and more of the unique sounds modulars are good at.
@@ArtFluids gee, wouldn’t it be nice if they were regarded as instruments rather than fart machine?
I'm the opposite
What a nice surprise to wake up to this video Alex . puts me in a good musical mood for the rest of the day.
Thanks Markus. 🙂
Alex, you are truly my favorite subscription. Thank you for bringing us such joy during these troubled times.
Thank you Cary. 🙂
This has actually given me a better understanding of modular synthesis in general terms. Nice one!
Great!
Cheers for the shout out in this one. Always nice to share synth ideas with each other.
No, thank you sir! Funnily enough, I'm trading 100m ideas at the moment. I say trading, I'm getting all the benefit, but still. 😀
Sooo cooool. Love this synth. Played with the EMIS one years ago. Ballsiest oscillator I ever heard. Thank you for this!
All wires aside, I love how you make actual music with this instrument! Great stuff!
I have fond memories of owning & using a system 100m. I had a 3 191j cabinet system, and acquired the polyphonic 4 voice keyboard you have there as well. I used it with a kenton pro4 and it worked well most of the time. It always took pride of place in my studio.
Your brilliantly done video demonstrates how clean, zingy and versatile it can sound, providing you put the time in regards programming the patches; your patches sound excellent.
At the time, i had a lot of work on with libraries and licensing, and the odd tuning issues on one of the dual vco modules, would cause a fair amount of bother. It was an 'all around the world ' purchase via ebay (per cabinet) and that may explain it, as they're usually more stable than any other modular due to the use of Curtis chips on all the vcas, vcos and vcfs; its the same chipset as the sh101, later prophet 5s and countless other mono & poly synths.
As alluded to, i sold it on and had a tinge of regret, which my ever trusty system 100 managed to fill. I'm glad that roland made the 500 modules, but I'm waiting to see (and hear) the behringer ones in action. The latter can allow you to build up a powerful system for about the same money as it cost in 1979 to 1984; less if you factor in inflation.
Here's hoping behringer's system is the dog's dangly bits. Better still, it can literally be combined with anything else now, due to the eurorack footprint.
Coming out in 1979, the 100m was built upon the designs and technology that went into other Roland synths from that era. So Jupiter 4, SH series synths and the System predecessors from earlier in the 70s. This gives you discrete circuitry oscillators, a filter based on the ba662 and a VCA also utilising the ba662. Not a Curtis chip in sight. Which makes its stability and useability impressive but not surprising given the outstanding job they did with the 700 a few years earlier.
3:33 Oh man, suddenly it's 1981. Flanged noise, eh. I need to use that to get that Duran Duran feeling, clearly.
🕺This 👨🎤is 👩🎤Planet 🌎 Earth
Yeah, spot on DD...exactly...\\\
Careless memories came to mind at this exact point
Oooh baby, gear porn in the morning! Oh my! :D
And don't underestimate the cheese there mate.. it's my bread and butter! Love those harmonies and bassline.
Oh, I love a bit of cheese as much as the next person. 🧀🎹
Alex that cheesy segment sounded amazing, would love to here it in a complete song. Anders, also enjoyed your cheddar on the latest 8 bit keys video.
@@riggidyboo Rightly so.. I pulled out all the cheddar, swiss, and all the other cheese I could find! LOL! :D
I like your avatar pic.
the Adlib FM synth music comes to mind.
Wow. I’m so glad I preordered the Behringer 100 modules. You always make it look easy, Alex. Thanks man!
You'll have to try out the same patches to compare.
Love so much theese musical sound designs.. This is what modulars are made for (not just for random bleeping). Thanks a lot Alex for yet another amazing demo and all the best!
Oh my God I hear Duran Duran “Careless Memories” intro. Fabulous
It is highly probable that you'd simply find my dead electrocuted body hanging off of those cables trying to reproduce just one of those sounds.
keep that optimism going buddy :))
Thank you! I really enjoyed the level of detail you went into for each patch. An amazing system :)
Always go full nerd. 🤓
I've never understood how music didn't evolve into new genres quicker back in the day with this sort of kit. The Dial-Up patch is a perfect example of something that certainly sounds post 1990 dance culture. Generational inertia perhaps LOL. Awesome as ever Alex :-)
RAP MUSIC HAPPENED. STONER GENERATION THAT LISTEN TO DREK LIKE GREEN DAY. NOW ITS CUNTRY MUSIK.AMERICANA.
@@markorendas1790 ...dang
The best beginning of the day
very pleased with you right now and just made the speech patch (amazed I've come close to this sound but never quite as close as you on my trusty 100m... Freddy Fresh
This makes me extremely excited about the Behringer 100m eurorack clones.
If only we could get the full delivery schedule
Think they're cloning every single module.
They should go the whole hog and do the 160 prototype designed to connect to a Commodore 64. Then clone the Commodore 64.
@@AlexBallMusic
HA!!! 😃
just SUPER! thanks Alex
Just awesome! Congratulations
What a start in the morning! You make my day great! Thank you! ❤️
Fabulous video, loved your demo. Cheesy? Remember cheese is loved by billions and is a global mega industry. Bring the fromage, I say.
Loved by me too, that's why I did it. :)
Channeling a bit of OMD there, I thought he was going to do a cover of Souvenir...
Magnificent machines, I always wanted them but they cost a fortune even back in the day! But now I am very grateful to be the recent, and very proud owner of all the System-500 eurorack modules based upon them. Wonderful stuff! ;)
Great stuff! Very clever using S&H for digitizing audio and 'down-sampling'.
I've never really lusted after a system 55, 35, 15, or 10 but the 100m is a different kettle of fish. Perhaps, it's because I became really interested in owning synths around 79/80, a generational thing? A good way to start the weekend, any weekend, thanx Alex.
The System 100m is interesting because it's very late for an analogue modular synth given that was where things were a decade earlier and the direction had changed completely by 1979.
So it's like the very tail end of modular and it's much slimmer and more bitesize than the monsters from the late 60s and early 70s. Guess that gives it a different appeal.
Great video and very helpful. i will need to go through this a few more times to absorb it all and apply what i can to the S500. Thank you.
this just blows my mind, especially the dial-up patch.
Amazing demo and a clever use of the mixer for composition!
Thanks for sharing this, i'm totally in love from this system, cheers from Argentina!
I'm in love with it too. 🙂
Fantastic video! In the first part of the video the arpeggiated-sounding sequence reminded me of Equinoxe Part V!
Brilliant! I love all the detailed info thanks as ever Alex!
70s era Roland: wicked fast & tight envelopes....my fave.
Awesome stuff as usual! Gonna have to try that S&H down-sample trick.
Yes, one of those "this is so obvious, how did I miss it" moments.
If you run drums through it and down sample it sounds ace.
Can't wrong with a Vintage Roland. 🤟
This has made my day. Cheers!
Great video, this synth sounds simply awesome. Thanks Alex! :)
Incredible demo Alex!
Great video for a Wonderful Instrument!
Another brilliant video! That last patch is just the cat's meow! So very creative and fun. You done justice to the beast, son, you done justice.
Thanks Ned. I wanted to do something bigger for the end and it's surprisingly easy on the 100m.
Thanks Alex for this great, great video!
Love the way you wince with the high resonance at 9:24
Totally did. Pushed it just a smidge too far.
Nice!
thanks for the patch notes
I so love these sounds- so similar to my old Roland Sh3a!
Love your videos! Keep 'em coming!
Wow! Four minutes in and my creative brain is screaming at me OOOOHH, PLAY THIS! CONNECT THIS TO THAT! WHAT IF I SEND THIS HERE?! Thanks for the instant inspiration my dude! 😄
I like your cables. They are good.
Patch 3 just blew me off my chair. Awesome!
Nicely covered. Is the composition in Patch 3 inspired by music from Peter Gabriel's 'Passion'? The chord progression feels familiar. (Have to dig out my CD to figure out which track I'm thinking of.)
Hey Alex Ball, I tried your patch 2 and I found that it was the decay time that altered the vowels!!. Sadly I only have 1 cab so couldn't try the other patches. Good job though!
Yes, totally. The whole envelope shape alters the vowels, I should have said that. In my particular patch I was using the attack to move through them but decay will also do that.
Lovely ideas... Cheers!
super curious about the list of synths towards the upper left. upcoming videos perhaps??
It's the channels on my midi router.
Such a nice demo and such a big 100M set up!
Thank you. Yes, momma is big.
Outstanding vid, btw
sounds so sick! great video
Thanks. Another wonderful lecture from Alex Ball University. I wonder how the new Behringer modules will compare?
Thanks. Behringer - we'll find out when they're released. Their other analogue stuff I've played sounded very good.
Strong candidate for best sounding synth. Eighventies Roland was so good.
"Eighventies" is the perfect description of the sound. :)
Credit for that lovely descriptive word goes to the Chart Music podcast, definitely worth a listen and sometimes features David Stubbs author of Mars By 1980, a really good read on Electronic music.
Not only epic sounding but it looks SOOOOOO good - I wonder if I cut off both arms and sold them on ebay whether I could afford one of those..........
One of my absolute favourites. Wonderful thing.
Not a "cheesey" demo (Jupiter patch) imho! Another great video with wonderful patches and explanations. Tip of the hat Alex! 🎩
love this! It sounds amazing!
Thanks. One of my favourite synths ever.
Great demo! Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed every minute of it. Although I suspect that your TR-77 (9:38) sounds were "tuned" slightly higher? Because they don't quite sound like those on my own TR-77... ;-)
I'll have to check back, but I think they were off the unit and I'd run them through an analogue mixer and eq'd and driven them a bit. Any tuning would be a digital mistake somewhere!
Great demo Alex! I think the 100m unfairly gets a bit of a bad rep for being "too vanilla" OK, so most system don't include the esoteric stuff, but if vanilla equals "musical" as it so often does with the 100m, then I'm all for the flavour! Wish I could have held onto my systems, but am sure they are making tasty tones somewhere still...
Yes, I've heard the same criticism. I don't understand that myself.
The only good argument I've heard is from someone whose music didn't suit the sound of the 100m and did suit others modulars better, which was totally logical.
What a fantastic instrument!
My favourite. Since this video I collected the entire thing, all 13 production modules and even a 1-of-a-kind prototype module. I have 6 cabs as the centerpiece of my studio. Endlessly inspiring.
Memories of cheese! Good stuff...feels liket travelling back in time. Very well done video, thanks for explaining the patches. Can't wait for the release of the Behringer clones which will make the System 100m affordable at last...
Fabulous Alex! Fabulous!!!
I like how the system 100m sounds but I don't understand any thing!
I'm even unable to create the sound I like on my Roland SH-01 (Gaia)
The only patching synth I own is the tiny Korg MS 10 and I can barely patch it the right way!
Anyway, I found your channel a couple of month ago and I enjoy all your videos!
Hey! Nice instructive videos! I have a question. In patch 4, is the sequencer triggered externally? the steps have different duration ..
Yes, the 182 sequencer has a "Trig in" and if you send it a 5v gate or the right kind of audio signal it will step to the rhythm you give it.
@@AlexBallMusic thanks. I appreciate your work. Very inspirational
@ You're welcome.
Nice video. 3:35 reminds me of the Duran Duran's Careless Memories intro.
Just what the doctor ordered for a rainy Labour Day. I know it will be good even before I watched.
System 100m has been bringing the sunshine out since 1979.
Labour Day? Is that a British holiday?
Most excellent! Have you had the chance to try the Behringer clone of this system? Having an original would be beyond me (and most mortals on the planet) but putting together a modern equivalent is now a possibility.
Not tried the Behringer clone. Heard it in demos and it sounds good, but not had it for a side-by-side comparison with the original. I guess it's best to judge it on its own merit anyway.
Pretty competitive prices for the modules! Especially as a four cab System like the one in this video is worth about £12,000 these days. 😬
great content as always.
Thank you
such an amazing system, but dont you wish there had been a 14th module with the open collector ladder filter from the SH-5/System 100, rather than 'just' the jupiter/juno filter?
Alex, Wonderful :)
Thanks
Hey Alex, where did you get the cool cables? These are really nice!!!
6:13 F yeah, 10/10 would see that piece live!
ok Dial Up is pretty goofy cool too.
that prophet rev 2 shirt is awesome!
Another fabulous video. Having spent some time with a system 55 at the Mooglab I’ve always wanted to get my hands on a 100m system and compare. How do you think Rolands new 500 series compares sonically with the 100m?
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tuftynuts thank you - I should’ve guessed Alex had made a film on this subject. And the SH-5 too - excellent.
Late reply and tuftynuts has answered above. As a bonus, here's a direct comparison of the System 100m 172 to the System 500 572 from my Instagram.
The 500 is great and it sounds very similar. The only downsides are that it's a lot smaller and therefore more fiddly when you've got patch cables everywhere (like all Eurorack), the oscillator scaling is a bit funky and it makes an audible "blip" when you switch octave and the case it comes with isn't quite the right size so you have this odd little panel on one side.
Other than that, fantastic.
instagram.com/tv/B_D32unhkWJ/?
Alex Ball thanks for the info I will check it out. Thanks for all the great films you make - the porn music one was especially good and the recent ARP film was an absolute pleasure to watch.
tuftynuts watched it - great as always from Alex - that SH-5 sounds fab!
You are crazy Alex! 😁👍
Cardboard 100m coming to your studio soon? ;)
@@AlexBallMusic that's a lot of cardboard, might have to order some new synths first... 😁
Hello behringer users, how close is the b system to the real one? Really curious!
love it!!
Lovely!
Totally off topic: I like the pinboard to the top left of the System 100m with your MIDI channel mappings. Very retro!
It was going spare, I thought it would look cool. :)
If you can find a copy online, a fascinating read is *Electronic Musical Instrument’s: What They Do, How They Work,* written back in 1984 by an author named Larry Kettelkamp with a forward by Herbert A. Deutsch. It comes to mind mainly for featuring a photograph of a single cabinet from this system in chapter 3. It’s slim and 36 years old, but it’s still (potentially) worth a look.
Thank you for the tip off. Herbert A. Deutsch is the same Herbie Deutsch of Moog fame I assume?
You assume - correctly, Mr. Ball.
Saw that Mr.Ball Released a video.. Parked my butt in the sofa to watch the video with some cheese doodles. Thats how entertaining these videos are!
Thanks. How were the doodles?
@@AlexBallMusic great, althou I had to wash my face and hands. Doodles sure are a messy treat xD
FUUUUNKY!!! (FUN AND QUITE WELL EXPLAINED AND PERFORMANCE!) THANKS!!!
That jam at the 8 minute mark sounds like some classic Mr. Oizo stuff!
I noticed you have videos of the system 100m as well as the sh-101. How would you compare and contrast their SOUND and could you get a convincing sh-101 tone from the 100m?
The SH-101 VCO is a CEM 3340 with simultaneous sawtooth, pulse and sub waves. The System 100m oscillators are discrete and only put out one wave at a time. You can use a gate delay to create a sub oscillator, but you need two oscillators to do the simultaneous sawtooth / pulse thing.
The filter is an IR3109 in the 101 and BA662 OTA in the 100m, but they're very similar.
The envelopes are very similar.
So essentially, you can do everything the 101 can do with very minor differences in sound. I sold my SH-101 because it's so limited compared to the 100m.
@@AlexBallMusic thanks so much, this is incredibly useful to me!
You're welcome.
Is there a video where you patch from scratch on this thing ?
thank you
I think the really interesting question would be why did Roland go down the modular path when Yamaha and Korg didn't?
With Keith Emerson being behind a Yamaha GX-1 and in front of a giant Moog modular synth in the classic Montreal video, Yamaha certainly would have been aware of modular, so why didn't they do it?
Its quite simple really , yamaha always wanted expressive synths that they wanted to simulate natural ( read acoustic) timbre from , they thought they achieved it with the cs80 , modular for them was a step back and by 1979 yamaha was aware of the possibilities of fm as a tone generator that surpassed these clunky modulars by miles and history proved them right
Very interesting topic. I am also intrigued as to why Roland _started_ making modular synths whilst the American pioneers were leaving that behind. The 100m has to be on of the last of that era, it's really late in the story.
I guess Roland made absolutely everything (their old catalogues are eye opening), so decided to do modular too.
I don't know? if you have access to it or not, but it would be cool to have someone like you do a video on the Roland "mks-80" super Jupiter.
I don't currently but who knows. If I can, I will.
Man, I remember when Turnkey closed down, they sold a 6 frame system for 3k. I was poor at the time so there was nothing I could do.
Damn, that's a steal! Worth four times that.
@@AlexBallMusic They had everything, Moog system 35, Roland 700, Jupiters, the works.
Good God, don't tell me that!
Turnkey was amazing. It was the last music shop in that area i thought would shut
I bought a 9-module system (with 2 x 5-module racks and the 4-octave mono keyboard) for £250 in 1989. The phase shifter / flanger module was my favourite by a long way!
Yes, you heard that price right. I think you could safety add an extra '0' to that price, today.
Getting strong N5 from outer space vibes! 🖖
Heh... and I scored the 808th like on the vid. Awesome vid man!
If only you had access to the switch module or a Ryk Sequencer. I'm loving the polyphonic sound demo, sits somewhere nicely between a JP4, JP8, Ju6 and SH101; maybe I will buy some Behringer products in the not too distant future or the Frequency Central 5U stuff.
Yeah the Ryk improves upon the original 182 for sure, as much as the original is a lot of fun. Those are very rare too of course!
Works nicely as a poly, I agree. The filter is the same as the SH-2, Promars and early Jupiter-4 and it has that flavour to it.
@@AlexBallMusic RYK are releasing a new M185 in Roland 100m format soon. The updated version has just launched in Eurorack. Keep and eye on :
instagram.com/ryk_modular
@@RYKModular Hello! I'm watching you very closely. ;)
Are they oscillators dual? But mono? So you might need two modules to get stereo?
Depends upon the module configuration. There are dual oscillator, dual filter, dual amp, and dual envelope + LFO modules. So with just those you could have two independent voices and pan as you wish.
I've since got my own big 100m system and it's got 9 voices and can be as stereo as you like.
Pretty sure this was the synth John Foxx used on Metamatic. Sounds like it.
The controller looks rad. It makes me wonder if there's another modular friendly controller maybe with three octaves and full-size keys, something close to Keystep Pro but with full size keys.
Very good question. I did a demo on Instagram using the KeyStep with the 100m and it works perfectly. It is obviously small as you say.
I'd be interested if another full sized multi-cv keyboard exists. Surely one of the Eurorack manufacturers has done one?
@@AlexBallMusic I'm pretty sure Novation has one (SLK or something) that also does multi-CV but it's really big. Ideal would be splittable 3-octave full size keys.
Thanks, I'll check the Novation tip out.
@@AlexBallMusic I just checked it's SL MK3
@@nebula0697 Thanks. Seems to only have 2 x CV and gate.