Congratulations on reaching this point of the build! That suspension articulation through the ditch was awesome, well done! One suggestion before you hit the off-road park: Try testing this with only one engine running. Obviously it won't do very well...but when you're out on a trail alone after blowing up one of those modified Predators, it would be nice to know you can at least limp home without needing a tow. Keep up the GREAT work!
The trick to limping it back with a blown engine would be to pull the chain off the sprockets for the wheel with the blown engine although it would only be a one wheel wonder it would be better than dragging what remains of the driveline
@@dodgeme1986truck My god you're insufferable. This is the 4th comment I've seen from you where you flaunt your "extensive knowledge". No one cares how much you supposedly know.
@@dodgeme1986truck question: if one engine broke down, wouldnt the chain without removing it from the broken engine simply free wheel the driven clutch on the broken engine side? It is after all not a direct drive to the engine itself but runs through a drive clutch. Yes it would rob a tiny amount of power to freewheel the the driven Clutch and belt, but it would be slipping on the Drive Clutch and would not be much resistance to over come.
@@johntingle455 unfortunately no there is actually alot of resistance and you could end up with a situation like cars and cameras did where the belt doubled over into the drive clutch locking the wheel solid ex. My mini dozer weighing only 1k lbs. I built... when I had to flat tow it (one of the transmission shafts bent when the ripper caught a massive unseen buried boulder that the dozer tracks were directly over)... while pulling with the final drives intact ended up spinning my 1 ton trucks tires (4×4) weighing 7.6k lbs. However after disengaging the final drives was able to be pulled with a little dodge dakota(4×2) >2k lbs.
The reasoning behind this is parasitic gain (basically the opposite of parasitic loss) for ex. Let's say the driven clutch weighs 4 lbs... the final drive ratio being 4:1... and the tire being 24" dia. Let's say the tire is generating 1 ft lb. Of torque when you push the vehicle. Now that 1 ft lb. Has to try to overcome frictional gains but not only that but try to start the 4 lb. Flywheel (driven clutch) spinning at 4 times the tires rotating speed... let's say for simplicity reasons with the frictional losses the combined parasitic gain is 5:1 (500%) that means you need 20 lbs of force continuously applied to spin the driven clutch. With a parasitic peak at the point when you attempt to start moving you could be looking at forces as high as 25 ft. lbs. of force needed every time you attempt to start moving. Now by removing the final drive you eliminate the 4 lbs. of driven clutch as well as the parasitic torque acquired by the 1:4 ratio (gets reversed because input and output flip rolls when the tire is used to drive everything) when trying to spin the driven clutch. So with the final drive removed you end up only trying to spin the tire.
Awesome machine. The only suggestion I have is to increase the height of the wheel/tire. The rear sprockets are very close to touching the ground under articulation. Plus it would just look way better. They appear drastically under sized for the vehicle.
Gerald....if I'm not mistaken. The sprockets get no closer to the ground under articulation or not...he could pehaps put on larger wheel and tire combos or just larger tires to increase the distance of the sprokets from the ground. But that new distance would be constant as well and would not change under articulation.
@@johntingle455 they do get closer to the ground under articulation as an example take a ruler, board or just about anything about a foot long hold one end about a foot off the ground that's the tire side...turn the bar on the opposite end (sprocket end) up and down keeping the tire end stationary. As you will note the sprocket end gets closer to the ground. This is the effect that is taking place when the suspension articulates especially when he was crossing the ditch or when the vehicle leaned while turning there was significantly high movement that moved both sideways and up and down and if you hit an obstacle during this movement you could end up shattering the brake rotors/ sprockets, bending the axle shafts, breaking a hub or rim, and/or destroying the bearings.
That articulation is exceptional, the spring rates look about right though the geometry of the rear seems to raise it substantially on acceleration - might be useful in the field. I'm sure youll find the any problems with damper rates in field testing. The dual drive is a marvel - no diffs, and it creates a drive system completely controlled by the driver (you need two accelerator pedals, or some mechanism to alter power distribution). Very impressive Mr. B! Other commentators have mentioned vacuum in the tank...I'm sure you'll sort out the problem, but both engines dying indicates a common cause...like vacuum in tank or the need for baffles in the tank. Thanks for a great video and series.
All I can say is it's sick bro ,hands down the coolest build yet ,I think you'll have trouble topping this one ,love the suspension travel ,👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍🙏
If somebody asked me before you build it, I would have said that the difference in engine performance would steer this thing constantly to one side. I am glad to see I would have been wrong and it's not such a big issue. Great build. Keep it up :)
Really nice build, it really has a lot going for it there are a few things I think are a bit off on it but not worth mentioning, it is an awesome ride.
I wonder about that too, nipple and a tube in the cap, simple. All engines seem to have it for a reason, fuel goes out air goes in or it creates a vacuum and fuel flow problems. Nice build, he sure has developed some awesome skills over the past few years.
Most likely the idle channels in the carbs are dirty. Nothing a generous blast of compressed air can't fix. Have you considered installing an anti-sway bar for the front axle?
Holy crap dude that thing is beautiful. I love the independent suspension, looks like it works great, just awesome! Looks fun and comfortable. Great job!
@Keegan Browning yes it is to prevent vacuum from being drawn on the fuel tank which will stop the gravity feed fuel flow. Even though it's actually referred to as a vent port it's 2 primary purposes are to vent pressure from the fuel tank and to prevent creating a vacuum in the fuel tank as the fuel leaves the tank however he may need to increase its size/quantity due to 2 engines effectively creating twice the fuel demand resulting in a higher rate of vacuum buildup in the tank at all engine rpms that the vent port needs to bleed off. And there are maximum volumetric flow rates for a given hole size.
@@doodlebug6833 I was only asserting the prior posting was in a sense wrong and misleading as I could probably teach basic engine and carburetion 101 and crater the avg. "Mechanic's" mind with knowledge overflow in my sleep (my background being what it is) Hell I've probably forgotten more about engines and carburetors than most "mechanics" have ever even learned. Hell I rebuilt my first non running engine and carburetor back to an optimized running engine when I was 5. And by 3rd grade I was stumping and baffling my teachers because the books I was reading were college lvl books on theories of internal combustion engines and fully understood what I was reading.
Edwin Russell took the words right out of my mouth. Yo that rear suspension looks dope when you’re turning, it also looks like it rides like a Cadillac nice job!
yeah your engine issue is because your fuel tank needs to breath. you have 2 engine causing a vacuum on 1 tank. adding a vent in the fuel cap will fix your issues!
Awesome job my only two suggestions you really need skidplates to protect the rear undercarriage under each motor and number 2 if you'll add side mirrors that can be extended out when backing up and that can fold in when going through areas that could impact your mirrors great build
I truly love it I'm your biggest fan of this build should paint it with black and red weld on the nose plate paint it Black with red writing saying the yard predator!!! With a small predator face in vinyl decals wouldn't cost more than 20 bucks
Great job bro! You are very talented! Don't worry about all the comments telling you what it needs because its obvious you know what your doing and I'm sure you will correct anything you feel necessary.
Adding an extra pair of wheels inside the swing arms on slightly longer axles would prevent the sprockets and brake discs touching the ground during heavy articulation, and give more traction in some circumstances. Might also keep it a little flatter under hard steering.
The unsprung mass of such assembly will become an issue at higher speeds and more dynamic maneuvering / demanding terrain...Still its fun to experiment with such things!
As explained many times you need to vent the gas tank. I think you will also find you need baffles in your tanks. On a single engine it won't do much but stop fuel slosh with the tanks mounted as high as you do. On this one I think you will find once the fuel gets low it will also starve one or the other engine. The starving engine will sputter causing it to torque steer. Helpful in turns as long as the starving engine doesn't die. A cheap and easy trick to add baffles to a built tank is to get a bucket of the plastic practice golf balls with holes in them. Stuff the tank full of them through the filler. I think I'd also look into cutting brakes on the rear. Hydro hand brake for each side (mech would even work). Lock up one rear wheel, turn the steering to that side, give it gas, and it'll turn on a dime. With it's width will be helpful on tight wooded trails.
Before you replace the engines because they won't idle try taking the carbs apart and cleaning them. If they set for a year the low speed/idle circuit of the carb maybe clogged. But if you are going to stage 3 the engines anyway, then the carbs will be replaced at that time...
You need a vent in the gas tank. That could be why your engines are dying. Also you need to run fuel filters. Take the carbs all apart and clean them. Watch youtube videos on cleaning Predator carbs, watch a lot of them. Each one is different but in the end you will see what needs to be done. Your rear sprockets and brake discs are low to the ground. They can hit a rock or tree stump while riding trails. Bigger diameter tires will help but then you loose low end grunt and gain high end speed. Jack shafts and gear reduction can correct that. It looks like you are learning more with each each build and mistakes made on them. Doing research on other builds before you try to reinvent the wheel will help in getting things right or better the first time. It also looks like it leans a lot in turns, might need sway or anti-roll bars...
I really like the articulation of your cart but I would like seeing larger knobby or Chevron treads with lower gearing to use it for severe rock crawling. I hope you keep us updated on your changes to your cart.
Yeah if your engines aren't idling properly and they been sitting outside for quite a while check your idler jet they probably have some trash in them not letting enough air flow through the engine to idle
Yo I'm loving the look of this whole machine it looks really aggressive already. Patiently awaiting the the mods video bro. Be blessed Jah Rastafari Selassie I Jah
Let me just start by saying you really outdid yourself the way all four of them Wheels stayed on the ground was freaking astonishing to me (dual engines I don't know) but then again I also don't know how you would have such travel with just one engine.( great job keep it up I'm definitely going to follow you from now on that thing is amazing you should go four-wheel drive next because with that same type of chassis nothing would stop you
That’s hot.One of the best go kart I ever saw.
its badass but would be way better with bigger tires and would add ground clearance
I agree only thing i can think and a tcase for 4×4 but it wouldent even be a gokart anymore
Congratulations on reaching this point of the build! That suspension articulation through the ditch was awesome, well done! One suggestion before you hit the off-road park: Try testing this with only one engine running. Obviously it won't do very well...but when you're out on a trail alone after blowing up one of those modified Predators, it would be nice to know you can at least limp home without needing a tow. Keep up the GREAT work!
The trick to limping it back with a blown engine would be to pull the chain off the sprockets for the wheel with the blown engine although it would only be a one wheel wonder it would be better than dragging what remains of the driveline
@@dodgeme1986truck My god you're insufferable. This is the 4th comment I've seen from you where you flaunt your "extensive knowledge". No one cares how much you supposedly know.
@@dodgeme1986truck question: if one engine broke down, wouldnt the chain without removing it from the broken engine simply free wheel the driven clutch on the broken engine side? It is after all not a direct drive to the engine itself but runs through a drive clutch. Yes it would rob a tiny amount of power to freewheel the the driven Clutch and belt, but it would be slipping on the Drive Clutch and would not be much resistance to over come.
@@johntingle455 unfortunately no there is actually alot of resistance and you could end up with a situation like cars and cameras did where the belt doubled over into the drive clutch locking the wheel solid ex. My mini dozer weighing only 1k lbs. I built... when I had to flat tow it (one of the transmission shafts bent when the ripper caught a massive unseen buried boulder that the dozer tracks were directly over)... while pulling with the final drives intact ended up spinning my 1 ton trucks tires (4×4) weighing 7.6k lbs. However after disengaging the final drives was able to be pulled with a little dodge dakota(4×2) >2k lbs.
The reasoning behind this is parasitic gain (basically the opposite of parasitic loss) for ex. Let's say the driven clutch weighs 4 lbs... the final drive ratio being 4:1... and the tire being 24" dia. Let's say the tire is generating 1 ft lb. Of torque when you push the vehicle. Now that 1 ft lb. Has to try to overcome frictional gains but not only that but try to start the 4 lb. Flywheel (driven clutch) spinning at 4 times the tires rotating speed... let's say for simplicity reasons with the frictional losses the combined parasitic gain is 5:1 (500%) that means you need 20 lbs of force continuously applied to spin the driven clutch. With a parasitic peak at the point when you attempt to start moving you could be looking at forces as high as 25 ft. lbs. of force needed every time you attempt to start moving. Now by removing the final drive you eliminate the 4 lbs. of driven clutch as well as the parasitic torque acquired by the 1:4 ratio (gets reversed because input and output flip rolls when the tire is used to drive everything) when trying to spin the driven clutch. So with the final drive removed you end up only trying to spin the tire.
Awesome machine. The only suggestion I have is to increase the height of the wheel/tire. The rear sprockets are very close to touching the ground under articulation. Plus it would just look way better. They appear drastically under sized for the vehicle.
Yeah maybe he can just build a guard
Gerald....if I'm not mistaken. The sprockets get no closer to the ground under articulation or not...he could pehaps put on larger wheel and tire combos or just larger tires to increase the distance of the sprokets from the ground. But that new distance would be constant as well and would not change under articulation.
@@johntingle455 they do get closer to the ground under articulation as an example take a ruler, board or just about anything about a foot long hold one end about a foot off the ground that's the tire side...turn the bar on the opposite end (sprocket end) up and down keeping the tire end stationary. As you will note the sprocket end gets closer to the ground. This is the effect that is taking place when the suspension articulates especially when he was crossing the ditch or when the vehicle leaned while turning there was significantly high movement that moved both sideways and up and down and if you hit an obstacle during this movement you could end up shattering the brake rotors/ sprockets, bending the axle shafts, breaking a hub or rim, and/or destroying the bearings.
Watching the way the rear suspension moves as you go around corners is really cool
Great looking machine lo e how the,rear end flexes the wide stance looks great
Congratulation on a great build. That kart is so bad ass. Loved watching you build it and looking forward to seeing more.
Awesome job on that suspension. Sweet build
Very nice mini buggy! I love the articulation it gets on uneven surfaces.
That articulation is exceptional, the spring rates look about right though the geometry of the rear seems to raise it substantially on acceleration - might be useful in the field. I'm sure youll find the any problems with damper rates in field testing. The dual drive is a marvel - no diffs, and it creates a drive system completely controlled by the driver (you need two accelerator pedals, or some mechanism to alter power distribution). Very impressive Mr. B! Other commentators have mentioned vacuum in the tank...I'm sure you'll sort out the problem, but both engines dying indicates a common cause...like vacuum in tank or the need for baffles in the tank. Thanks for a great video and series.
Thos thing is f'n awesome. Seeing them suspension work independently was great and the aggressive look is great.
All I can say is it's sick bro ,hands down the coolest build yet ,I think you'll have trouble topping this one ,love the suspension travel ,👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍🙏
Think about sway bars if you pick up more speed....love it
You did a really nice job. Very impressive. Your videos are of a tremendous help
If somebody asked me before you build it, I would have said that the difference in engine performance would steer this thing constantly to one side. I am glad to see I would have been wrong and it's not such a big issue. Great build. Keep it up :)
I think the torque converters allow slipping of the belts to make up for the issue.
Thats a nice little roller you got there to make the tank. need to make one like that!
Awesome job sir. Absolutely love it, that suspension looks like it makes it comfortable to ride as well.
Your suspension is sick.
Really nice build, it really has a lot going for it there are a few things I think are a bit off on it but not worth mentioning, it is an awesome ride.
Man that thing looks amazing!!! Watching the suspension flex made me appreciate it more. Great work
Vent your gas cap! Great job making this too!
I wonder about that too, nipple and a tube in the cap, simple. All engines seem to have it for a reason, fuel goes out air goes in or it creates a vacuum and fuel flow problems. Nice build, he sure has developed some awesome skills over the past few years.
That ditch articulation was sweet.
Most likely the idle channels in the carbs are dirty. Nothing a generous blast of compressed air can't fix. Have you considered installing an anti-sway bar for the front axle?
The articulation in that suspension is awesome that buggy is a beast hope you get the issues sorted and let rip
Holy crap dude that thing is beautiful. I love the independent suspension, looks like it works great, just awesome! Looks fun and comfortable. Great job!
You need a small hole to relieve pressure in the gas tank
A vent line certainly wouldn't hurt.
Has to have a vent.
The cap probably doesn't have a seal on it
Love the rear suspension, Great job!
That's twisted cool!!
That suspension works so good
Great job! Time to call up Red Beard again for another ride in the rain to test 'er out.
I wish some company would build an actual 3 or 4 speed gear box for these with a clutch...
nothing saying you cant use a motorcycle transmission there are some that are not attached to the engine
@@drewalsup9200 yep, they exist.
@@drewalsup9200 I'll certainly look into that....thanks for that...
They are out there, they come with a 2-3k price tag
Add 2 more engines... :D 4 wheel drive 4 engine build!
Overkill
Cars and Cameras already dood it.
I have a couple of project ideas that cars and camera's hasn't done.
and he needs to make the front tiers with the same independent suspension!
Iam Lonefrog ratherbwelding would make a way better version tho
I think this cart has enough justification to put a lot of camber on the wheels. There was a lot of leaning on the car in a turn.
or a seatbelt..
front rear torsion/sway bars would do, but too large can detract from easy articulation. still might be nice to ditch about half of that body roll.
Man you’re killing it with these go kart designs , I want one now
don't you need a hole in the fuel cap, to prevent a vacuum?
It has one on the tip of the cap
@Keegan Browning yes it is to prevent vacuum from being drawn on the fuel tank which will stop the gravity feed fuel flow. Even though it's actually referred to as a vent port it's 2 primary purposes are to vent pressure from the fuel tank and to prevent creating a vacuum in the fuel tank as the fuel leaves the tank however he may need to increase its size/quantity due to 2 engines effectively creating twice the fuel demand resulting in a higher rate of vacuum buildup in the tank at all engine rpms that the vent port needs to bleed off. And there are maximum volumetric flow rates for a given hole size.
Captian Obvious has taken yet another UA-cam comment joke (followed by slow clap)
@@doodlebug6833 I was only asserting the prior posting was in a sense wrong and misleading as I could probably teach basic engine and carburetion 101 and crater the avg. "Mechanic's" mind with knowledge overflow in my sleep (my background being what it is) Hell I've probably forgotten more about engines and carburetors than most "mechanics" have ever even learned. Hell I rebuilt my first non running engine and carburetor back to an optimized running engine when I was 5. And by 3rd grade I was stumping and baffling my teachers because the books I was reading were college lvl books on theories of internal combustion engines and fully understood what I was reading.
Edwin Russell took the words right out of my mouth. Yo that rear suspension looks dope when you’re turning, it also looks like it rides like a Cadillac nice job!
Chris awesome kart I absolutely love it I hope it does really good off road
That's the sickest g kart build I've ever seen. That takes the cake. Redbird is a badass your a savage.
Awesome build
Beautiful suspension. Now it looks and rides like a real buggy.
yeah your engine issue is because your fuel tank needs to breath. you have 2 engine causing a vacuum on 1 tank. adding a vent in the fuel cap will fix your issues!
very possibly starving and mostly at idle.
Wonder if he should use bigger fuel line
Awesome job my only two suggestions you really need skidplates to protect the rear undercarriage under each motor and number 2 if you'll add side mirrors that can be extended out when backing up and that can fold in when going through areas that could impact your mirrors great build
I truly love it I'm your biggest fan of this build should paint it with black and red weld on the nose plate paint it Black with red writing saying the yard predator!!! With a small predator face in vinyl decals wouldn't cost more than 20 bucks
Love it You could probably get away with bigger mud tires, looks geared low enough. Cool
Congrats well done on the build , love how it moves and i cant wait for a hill climb or 2
Pretty sick buggy!!!!
You've got some serious skills. And tools!
yeah I was gonna say you might need to make sure that fuel cap is vented and it could help the engine problems
Dude it’s so awesome you make pretty much all of the parts you need. Hope the hurricane didn’t hit you too bad.
nice articulation. well done:)
Swap on two Predator 301s and some taller & wider rear tires. Good job on that suspension.
Your a genius man! This was my favorite build yet.
that thing is a beast!
That thing is bad ass man nice job there will always be room for improvements that's the fun of it all.
That's bad ass, hydro test is the best, i live tig welding it's fun. Awesome video
Love the design
You should make blueprints for your gokart builds cause I would love to make one of these.
Dude that kart is looking awsome!!!! Your a beast man!!!
Great job bro! You are very talented! Don't worry about all the comments telling you what it needs because its obvious you know what your doing and I'm sure you will correct anything you feel necessary.
That is a sweet machine, the only weird thing about it is the front wheels are wider than the back. Quick fix would be rear wheel spacers
Thats the coolest one yet. Paint it bright red.
That thing is the sickest thing I’ve ever seen
Great job Chris! Way to think outside the Box!
Adding an extra pair of wheels inside the swing arms on slightly longer axles would prevent the sprockets and brake discs touching the ground during heavy articulation, and give more traction in some circumstances. Might also keep it a little flatter under hard steering.
Very enjoyable to watch. You are extremely talented !!!
Time to paint
The unsprung mass of such assembly will become an issue at higher speeds and more dynamic maneuvering / demanding terrain...Still its fun to experiment with such things!
Awesome independent suspension sir 👍
Nice video! Can’t believe the suspension works so good!
awesome job
As explained many times you need to vent the gas tank. I think you will also find you need baffles in your tanks. On a single engine it won't do much but stop fuel slosh with the tanks mounted as high as you do. On this one I think you will find once the fuel gets low it will also starve one or the other engine. The starving engine will sputter causing it to torque steer. Helpful in turns as long as the starving engine doesn't die. A cheap and easy trick to add baffles to a built tank is to get a bucket of the plastic practice golf balls with holes in them. Stuff the tank full of them through the filler.
I think I'd also look into cutting brakes on the rear. Hydro hand brake for each side (mech would even work). Lock up one rear wheel, turn the steering to that side, give it gas, and it'll turn on a dime. With it's width will be helpful on tight wooded trails.
I been following on ur projects and man u have some mad skills I love working on my own projects and I have learned some stuff
That thing is like a Tarantula. That thing would rock on the sand dunes but it's super wide stance might hinder it on narrow dirt/rock trails.
Before you replace the engines because they won't idle try taking the carbs apart and cleaning them. If they set for a year the low speed/idle circuit of the carb maybe clogged.
But if you are going to stage 3 the engines anyway, then the carbs will be replaced at that time...
That is the best suspension I've ever seen.
Very cool. Just make sure your fuel tank has a vent.
You need a vent in the gas tank. That could be why your engines are dying. Also you need to run fuel filters.
Take the carbs all apart and clean them. Watch youtube videos on cleaning Predator carbs, watch a lot of them. Each one is different but in the end you will see what needs to be done. Your rear sprockets and brake discs are low to the ground. They can hit a rock or tree stump while riding trails. Bigger diameter tires will help but then you loose low end grunt and gain high end speed. Jack shafts and gear reduction can correct that. It looks like you are learning more with each each build and mistakes made on them. Doing research on other builds before you try to reinvent the wheel will help in getting things right or better the first time.
It also looks like it leans a lot in turns, might need sway or anti-roll bars...
love the metal roller
I wonder if it's homemade.
What an awesome project!! Well done.
Learning curve. Refined vehicles didn't happen over night. Just keep working on it.
Love it!!
Nice technique on the tig man!
Well done from an old guy.
GOOD JOB
Great job, I wish I had a friend like you. I would go with bigger tires though.
I really like the articulation of your cart but I would like seeing larger knobby or Chevron treads with lower gearing to use it for severe rock crawling. I hope you keep us updated on your changes to your cart.
yep...still looks like a SpiderKart to me...and the red and black already on it...Spiderman theme would be sweet..lol..
Yeah if your engines aren't idling properly and they been sitting outside for quite a while check your idler jet they probably have some trash in them not letting enough air flow through the engine to idle
Yo I'm loving the look of this whole machine it looks really aggressive already. Patiently awaiting the the mods video bro.
Be blessed Jah Rastafari Selassie I Jah
Great work bro this thing is just awesome !! 👍👍great engineering
Let me just start by saying you really outdid yourself the way all four of them Wheels stayed on the ground was freaking astonishing to me (dual engines I don't know) but then again I also don't know how you would have such travel with just one engine.( great job keep it up I'm definitely going to follow you from now on that thing is amazing you should go four-wheel drive next because with that same type of chassis nothing would stop you
Wow dude 1 crazy set up love it
I hate how the front wheels are further apart than the rear
It's hard to stretch the back maybe wheel spacers
Good thing it’s his then
I have a similar plan. love the narrower wheel spread in the rear
All performances sxs are narrower in the rear. NASCAR as well lol
Have you looked into proper long travel atv shocks
From a business aspect I understand the dragging these builds out sooo far but from a viewer aspect it's so damn frustrating
you have talent building that
Awesome build good job man!
Take my money..!!!!!! That is saaweeet!!! Looks like it'd be great for rock crawling.🤙🤙🤙🔥🔥
You are Go Power Sports one and only hope 😉
He is getting better and better and as he learn we all learn to it's like a free school on motorized toys builder's
Your cart is amazing! I don't care what the haters say. A+++! I wish I had your welding skills, top notch!