Gilbert: Fire Emblem's Worst Dad (that you can play). Three Houses Character and Unit Analysis #4
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Character and unit analysis for Gilbert/Gustav in Fire Emblem: Three Houses.
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You probably already answered this before, but if it doesn't bother you to answer again, what happened to the Dimitri support science? Is it going to happen in the future or is it canceled?
Postdata: great Gilbert analisis
So is this Support Science episode 22?
"Ingrid accepts her life is expendible"
"Dedues entire character is based around protection and knighthood"
"And felix has a working brain"
My motto for the Blue Lions route: Felix is always right. Is he arguably a terrible person in most of his C supports? Yes. Is he still always right? Yes.
I don't know, his C support with Annette is kinda wholesome...
to be fair, everyones c supports with annette is wholesome, she just radiates wholesome energy
I just really enjoy all Bernie C supports, including the one with Felix
@@jamesc3141 also bernie and DK its so hilarious
WHY didn’t he have supports with Felix?! Felix would’ve ended this man’s whole career.
*true knight intensifies*
"You're the physical embodiment of everything wrong with chivarly and blind loyalty. Abbandoning your daughter, your wife and your brother because of "shame" for a dead king- you disgust me beyond words. Annette deserved better than this: May she realize it and leave you forever in the mud like you deserve, mister self-imposed exile."
@@redlikeroses3705 this is made all the more great by his supports with Annette. around most people, he's a jerk, but around Annette... he's flustered.
he actually kinda gets that way with Dorothea when he finds out she's a singer. guy has a thing for girls who sing.
He doesn't have supports with Felix, Ingrid, OR Sylvain. Once I saw it pointed out, but I can't help but feel it was intentional. He fundamentally betrayed something each of them believed in, or something that they felt was right. He abandoned his family and his duty. The trio would have known him (and by extension Annette) pre-tragedy, so they all harbor resentment towards him. They would have seen how it hurt Annette. If there's one thing those 3 have in common, it's their loyalty to each other and their other friends.
I heard this comment, and then I heard air horns blaring
"Gilbert said he was just getting some cigarettes" -Annette
Cigarettes are a better reason to leave the family instead for the stupid Church
@@annettefantinedominic He didn't though.
He left the family because he "failed to protect his king" despite not even being there. THEN he joined the church, and used that as an excuse to avoid coming back.
Best part? He sticks with Dimitri, and basically abandons his family regardless.
@@DemonicMonkey88 get his paired ending with Annette.
@@maximaldinotrap No.
He doesn't deserve it, and Annete especially doesn't deserve to die alone.
He left to get milk as well
"In azure moon only"
*Shows clip of Gilbert with Claude in the background*
Probably randomized playthrough :D
That's what I love about Dedue. He's a big softie, but he pulls no punches where tough love is needed.
I romanced Dedue and I will never romance another guy. He's simply the sweetest, I just want him to rest and be happy.
(Plus, his "I adore you" during the S-Rank melts my heart every time).
@@TheChildofAuraReborn I've never S-ranked him, I just think he's a good dude who deserves better.
Edit: I'd imagine he'd just be a big sweetheart, though.
@@TheChildofAuraReborn I married him on my BL route, too. The "I adore you" part and the fact that the ring was my birthstone color just made me swoon~
Except for with Dimitri. I think his main flaw is how permissive he is with Dimitri one pretty much every route bar Azure Moon debatably.
@@xuanathan That is a good point. (But that's because they're in love, definitely. Nope. Me? Pushing a shipping agenda? Perish the thought!)
"Worst dad in Fire Emblem"
I mean, Bernie and Mecedes' parents are a thing in this game. Not an incredibly high bar, I know, but still.
(That you can play)
*jeritza's dad
lewyn can be a good candidate for the "bad dad" category too
@@paulrubens776 Isn't it Forseti at that point, though?
Bernie’s Dad: physically, mentally and emotionally abuse his daughter, tied her to a chair for hours to remain obedient, beated an poor child half to death for talking to her, doesn’t dies
Mercedes/Jeritza’s dad: beated his wife, daughter and son up, shunned them from the family, after they leave makes a plan on marrying Mercedes and making babies with her at the age of 8-10 (🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮), gets killed by Jeritza
A quote to describe Gilbert: "misery is comfortable, happiness takes effort".
Imma be honest, I hate that phrase cause misery takes effort too. But just chillin is easy.
While I agree that the Byleth support is pretty drastic with how fast it is, especially compared to Annette, but it makes a little bit of sense about how Byleth would get through to Gilbert.
Byleth's basically god-pope at this point, Gilbert is the kind of person who puts a lot of stock in the church, and getting told bluntly by the stand-in pope to shut up and quit praying would naturally be a shock to someone as traditionally minded as Gilbert. That, and it reminded him of someone else very important to him, Lambert.
It would've been better in my opinion if they toned it back a bit to around the same level of progress as the Annette support, so it wouldn't be seen as overshadowing her.
This!
Not to mention Gilbert believes his prayers are his only atonement for the dead and Byleth is now the Goddess reborn. Sothis is literally giving him the forgiveness he seeks in order to atone for the living he has turned his back on
Completely agree. That's what flies over a lot of people's head. In this game, "avatar worship" actually makes sense, because, well, the avatar becomes god, and to make things even better, there's already an actual church and a lot of followers of said religion.
@@fernandouehara2665 While it does make some sense, it's something that gets old pretty fast, and I still wish they toned it down a bit, I don't need that much praise every single chapter lol
@@fetacheese25 "Avatar worship" never bothered me that much. In our real world, generals and tacticians are the ones remembered by history as the responsibles for results in battles. People like Genghis Khan, Napoleon and many others are admired to this very day. If anything, it is not unrealistic to see the tactician of the army being revered as a war hero. And in addition to that, Byleth becomes the leader of the Church of Seiros appointed by Rhea herself, so it makes sense for all kinds of characters to value whatever Byleth say or do.
What bothers me the most is when the avatar takes too much space, and that doesn't happen with Byleth in my opinion.
I like how you have to specify that Gilbert is the worst *playable* fire emblem dad because otherwise there's just so much competition
far farrrr too much
*cough * Robin's dad *cough *
@@Stargazer01011 *cough* playable dad *cough*
@@zimonzieclown1633 we are now talking about those who are barred from this discussion since there are so many of 'em
@@zimonzieclown1633 idiot
Guy’s his channel name is obviously Faerghastation
16:36
While I agree that Byleth should not have been the only catalyst for Gilbert's arc I will break a lance for the game.
When the pope says "Stop praying for the goddess' sake and go visit your family" it is a good motivator to think things through, specially for someone as devout as Gilbert.
But Byleth isn't a pope until after the main game.
@@cyncynshop
With Rhea gone Byleth is acting those "sacred duties" by her direct command.
@@Andreu0rtin Plus, considering Rhea's own mommy issues, if she cared enough she'd probably call Gilbert out on his behavior too.
@@DemonicMonkey88 true but to her own admission she does not like talking about that
I wish the other routes had more exclusive characters like Gilbert. Like, Silver Snow you [should] have the whole church staff at your disposal, but Crimson Flower should have had Randolf, Ladislava or at the very least Fleche as extra units, and Verdant Wind should have had Nader and especially Judith.
fleche seems like wasted potential in CF. i am guessing they created her for the AM route (where she plays a vital part in dimitris redemption arc) and when she was put in CF, the writers had no idea what to do with her. considering the fact that you lose flayn, it seems a bit of a waste to just put her on the sidelines
@@Underworlder5 Maybe she'll play a role with the teenage mutant ninja students?
Well, Crimson Flower has the Death Knight now, so they've equaled the Blue Lions in terms of unique post timeskip characters, hopefully at some point IS adds Judith to the Golden Deer house.
There was also a data mine that revealed six new additions to the cast, 4 of these were the upcoming Ashen Wolves characters, the 5th seems to be an Ashen Wolf NPC ala Judith and Gilbert, but the 6th is speculated to be Fleche, as it's a character affiliated with Adrestia who's a short woman, it's hard to say for sure though, right now the other stats seem to be placeholders.
@@FUTBALLZAK Pretty sure Fleche was a "child" and not a midget.
@@DemonicMonkey88 Sure, my point is this, the stats were Ferdinand's except for the gender and height, which were female and 160 cm, they could be using placeholder stats for a future new unit ala Jeritza, and that unit could be Fleche as around 160 cm seems right, and she's a woman.
I love how Gilbert is written, I like how instead of people just trying to make him feel better they call him out on his crap and hold him accountable. I also really like how they treat him and Annette’s relationship. And that is why I S-ranked him in my blue lions run I just like him so much.
DeadlyFlood homewrecker gang
Same. I really liked his support with almost every character. They called him out on his behavior, or else Gilbert himself surprisingly offered solid advice at times too. His support are also wildly different depending on the characters, and he's got a nice variety of characters: Annette, Dimitri, Ashe, Dedue, Catherine were all support that I think offered something for both characters. Which is more than I can say for other characters in this game.
He doesn't deny being a horrible person, so that's why I make him feel better.
He's not worse than Acheron after all
Blue lions in a nutshell tbh
Too bad dimitri wasn't treated that way
I wished someone would slap him in the face instead of him being edgy for six chapters
This is why I like Dedue. He may be cold and a Knight archetype, but he is loyal, has a soft side, and doesn’t just make everyone feel depressed.
Gilbert wasn't actually knighted by Lambert - but by Lambert's father. Gilbert says at some point he taught both Dimitri and Lambert in some things, so it's unlikely Lambert would've been the one to knight him.
I love these videos of yours, though. The Cyril one was already great, and I appreciate this one for taking a level-headed approach to Gilbert.
Gilbert Logic: I have failed as a father by abandoning Annette. Therefore I will atone by continuing to abandon and emotionally torment Annette right to her sobbing face.
That said, I love Gilbert's character. There is much nuance to his character, the Japanese salary man dad, the duality of honor and shame, him being a representation of how people torment themselves and deny themselves happiness out of guilt and self-loathing, etc etc. His character is actually super deep, and the writer who wrote his character definitely had some personal stake in this. It would have been GREAT if he had a support line with Marianne. I swear they were written by the same writer. Also, it's cute that he's a redhead father/daughter duo with Annette.
But his line of thought does seem pretty troll with the NA localization.
Man the combat conversations beetwen Annette and Gilshit in CF makes me hate Gilbert more search for them in youtube
@@WoodGearsTV Damn that's crazy. It's almost like when you make Annette act extremely out of character they have awkward dialogue.
Gilbert's main role (to me) is obvious:
He's made to be the obvious backup for Dedue, especially if you fail to complete his paralogue. Dedue's statline heavily leans toward a defensive class, and Dedue is likely your main tank before the timeskip. With your defensive anchor removed from your team, you'll likely need someone with similar stats to replace him.
It's unfortunate that he doesn't join you on the other routes. Makes sense for Crimson Flower (as you've been excommunicated and are a direct enemy of Faerghus), but on Verdant Wind, why not have him join after Gronder (after fulfilling a specific condition)? That being said, I understand that he's instrumental to displaying Faerghus culture.
(Spoilers!) just like how, under very specific circumstances, in CF you are able to ally with Claude, you should also be able to recruit Dimitri and Dedue in VW. I understand why not in SS, as it sort of just serves as lore, but god they deserved better in VW.
I think the reason we don't get him on VW is that Gilbert looking to the Goddess for salvation instead of actually doing anything to redeem himself would make Claude genuinely angry -- Claude talks about his view that blind reliance on gods gets you nowhere, and Gilbert could very well be an example of someone "blindly relying" on a deity, since he abandoned his family to become a Knight of Seiros. Claude likely wouldn't trust the man to fight at his back, and thus wouldn't recruit him or ask us to do so.
Gustave is a knight of Faerghus and will die as such. While the church is a cornerstone of his ideology and his entire reason for penance. Gilbert is crown of thorns he places upon his identity. When push comes to shove though, he will die with Faerghus.
Still mad that you can’t play as Jeralt 😡
Could of been a dlc story too, with Byleth, Jeralt and others before arriving at the Monastery
Gawain flashbacks
Annette is my favorite character to come out of Blue Lions. She has her troubled relationship with her father, but that alone doesn't define her entire personality. Gilbert is far from being one of my favorites, but in my opinion, he is one of the best written characters in the entire game. Also, let's not forget he acts as the army leader for most of the second part, until Dimitri recovers from being insane.
Have you ever noticed that Blue Lions is the house of daddy issues? Every member of the Blue Lions house has some kind of significant problem involving their father, except maybe Dedue, whose family history isn't something that ever really gets explored in-depth.
Dimitri: His father was killed in front of him, and he is constantly haunted by what we assume are hallucinations of King Lambert's ghost telling Dimitri to avenge him and all the others who died in Duscur.
Dedue: Like Dimitri, his dad was killed during the Tragedy of Duscur, along with his mom, his sister, and nearly the entire population of Duscur.
Felix: Despises his father for glorifying the death of his brother Glenn by saying "he died like a true knight".
Ashe: Was forced to fight against his adoptive father (and potentially kill him himself) and struggles to come to terms with Lonato's death.
Sylvain: Because he bore a Crest, Sylvain's dad named him the heir to House Gautier instead of his big brother, which led to him being constantly abused by Miklan. Miklan's intense resentment of Sylvain eventually led to him stealing the Lance of Ruin and turning into a Demonic Beast, forcing Sylvain and his classmates to end his life. (Granted, Sylvain had more issues with his brother than his father, but Margrave Gautier's obsession with Crests is the root of all Sylvain's problems, so I think this counts as daddy issues.)
Mercedes: Was disowned by her stepfather after the birth of her Crest-bearing brother Emile and forced to flee to Faerghus, where she was adopted by a greedy merchant who wanted to use her Crest to marry into the nobility. Also, her stepdad planned to marry her so he could have even more babies with the Crest of Lamine since Mercie's mom was past childbearing age (an incident which led to Emile murdering House Bartels and becoming the Death Knight), so that's pretty fucked up. (I guess incest is another of Fodlan's similarities to Jugdral.)
Ingrid: Her father wants her to marry a noble to secure the future of House Galatea, since Ingrid is his only heir with a Crest, but unfortunately, that conflicts with Ingrid's dreams of becoming a knight, so she defies his wishes constantly, despite his good intentions and clear love for her.
Annette: 3:31-16:39
Finally, I am qualified to join a House now... Oh...
You forgot Bernie’s dad for abusing Bernedetta several times and treated her like a prized cattle. Dorothea’s dad disown his own daughter for not being born with a crest. Felix’s dad basically thought that his eldest son dying which was the Kingdom of Faerghas’ equivalent of 9/11 was an honorable thing to do. Lorenz’s dad was an asshole too as he basically screwed over other people and raised his son to be a stuck up ass like him. Ferdinand’s dad basically drove the empire to ruin and brought shame to his family. It seems that both Byleth and Flayn had the only two decent fathers in Fodlan. Edelgard’s dad is on his deathbed and is nothing more than a puppet for asshole nobles.
House Gautier needs a crest bearer as the heir so that the Margrave can defend Faerghus against Sreng
And then there’s flayn and her father
To be fair ingrid's father clearly cares
Un like bernie's father
When I started Blue Lions and recruited Shamir, she was my favourite faculty unit. For ... 75% of the run.
Then I got to Gilbert's supports with the crew.
Now he is my favourite faculty unit, bar none. I absolutely get and can relate to the struggles he's got and is putting himself through. I love the emotion he gets out of the other Lions through his interactions, and that HE is basically he legendary hero that half the house grew up hearing about. It means a lot to see somebody so historically significant be brought so low by his own human shortcomings.
Man his character is so nuanced I can only guess the writer for his character is going from very personal experience.
Honestly Gilbert to me was one of the most complex characters not just in 3H, but video games in general.
Hey...at least he doesn't die, i'll give him that.
Ok Byleth. Im sorry.
>Hey...at least he doesn't die, i'll give him that.
Que Crimson Flower, some time travel, and the multiple deaths of Gilbert.
@@DemonicMonkey88 You could just leave him alone, you know; you don't have to kill him to complete the chapter.
@@zimonzieclown1633 Implying that I'd waste my time doing that XD
ZimonZieClown Silver Snow. He dies off screen.
@@Superluigi881 I was talking about Crimson Flower, not Silver Snow.
I always viewed Gilbert's heel face turn as Byleth's newfound reputation as the stand-in pope working. Essentially, the head of the church you are lamenting in tells you to stfu. I think that's why Byleth's words affected him so much.
Hopefully the next character analysis will be on Marianne. Her personal journey is one that I loved.
You mispelled "Mercedes"
Seth Both are fantastic characters with a good amount to analyze Id be cool with both
Dude I'm like 80% sure the same writer was in charge of writing Gilbert and Marianne. It's clear to me that whoever wrote their characters had a very personal stake in their stories. It's such a shame they didn't have a support line.
OwlFanatic “MY BLOOD COMPELS ME!”
@@InkWavve a conversation between those two would be nothing more than constant self deprecation. now that i think about it, maybe they can bond over common ground in that department. both hate themselves for something that happened in the past (gilbert for reasons mentioned in the video, marianne for being born with a heavily stigmatized crest)
Annette: DAD! PLEASE COME HOME! WE LOVE YOU!!!
No, Annette. I can't.
@@sauce4279 but why?
@@strongindaforce2008 Annette, I cannot.
NO STAY BACK, DAD!
@@LuriTV ok goodbye forever
Talking about dads, there are surely some good dad characters despite the equal number of bad dads in game. I really like lord Dominic (Annette's uncle in her paralogue) and count Galatea (Ingrid's father). Marianne's father count Edmund also seems very interesting. Caspar's and Linhardt's dads really should appear in game since they both help Edelgard in the war. All these characters can have their own stories with their children like Annette/Gilbert and Ashe/Lonato, but no they don't even have their own portraits. What a serious waste of interesting characters :(
Also Rodrigue, probably my favourite. A good but ultimately flawed dad who’s working through a tough time with his son.
I know he isn't a dad but I would've loved to see Holst!
@@TheShanicpower you can't even blame him. His son is Felix, and Felix hates everything
“Sometimes a stranger can be a teacher” optimus prime on humanity that’s how feel about byleth calling Gilbert out on his crap
Gilbert is hands down my favorite church unit. Granted I have massive bias towards knights and characters of honor, but his struggle is really sad and compelling and I truly rooted for him to find his way again throughout the story. Facing our sins is quite a relatable challenge to explore, and I’m glad they made a character to study that truth.
It’s him. It’s Gustave
When I first play the Azure moon story seeing the supports between Gilbert & Annette/Gilbert and Dimitri were some of the most powerful. I thoroughly enjoyed though same as a lot of people was thoroughly disappointed that Annette wasn't the one to snap him out of it.
I've yet to experience Gilbert and Hanneman's support but the one with Manuela was quite a nice one.
It would have been neat to see Gilbert's wife in his & Annette's paralogue. Idk I thought there would be something there.
Idk...for me I agree with ghast I wish it was Anette who snapped him out of it instead of byleth and maybe I’d appreciate Gilbert as a character a bit more if that were the case
Me before azure moon: what’s wrong with him?
After azure moon: what the fu-
There's a lot of people like Gilbert out there who have separated from their families and can't easily reconnect and who aren't necessarily bad people.
Personally, I've found that when people are eaten up by guilt and grief, it's easier for them to listen to the words of a stranger, than those closest to them. That Byleth is able to reach him where Annette fails, rings true for me. Because he is hearing them beg and plead in his mind, her words in person are only adding to his shame, but to have someone disconnected say the same thing, it usually strikes a cord where friend and family cannot.
To me it fits for someone else in this case Byleth to help dig him out of his hole he put himself into, I personally wouldn't want to confront the person I have been staying away from (Annette) about the problems, Byleth was someone willing to help him but Byleth didnt give him a way out to walk away on because he didnt know Byleth before his actions. Sometimes you just need new people in your life to help you patch up old problems, this is just something I feel has occurred here. Sorry for the emotional spill here I just wanted to give another take on his character.
Ghast: "Worst dad in fire emblem is
Gilbert"
Validar: "Am I a joke to you?"
Garon...
Desmond
Manfroy
Lewyn
Worst PLAYABLE dad in fire emblem
Gilbert looks great with his hair open, I hope my hair is still this luscious and colorful when I'm his age :)
Honestly after going through Female Byleth's supports in the forging bonds event from FEH I can't see Byleth as devoid of personality. I think they handled this the wrong way, but saying Byleth has no personality isn't criticizing it very well either.
To me Byleth has a lot of personality. People keep spitting on him but I like Byleth.
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon "He's only there to stroke egos!"
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon Same! I think the game just handled it the wrong way
@@allycat7105 And I don't see him as being too perfect or anything either. My mother is showered with compliments everywhere she goes. People love her and tell her all of their problems and she tries to help as best she can. The only people who dislike my mother are the jealous ones.
In short Byleth reminds me of mother.
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon Right? Like people that listen and want to help but don't necessarily have all the answers exist. In that way, I kinda relate to Byleth. Not the best character ever and having actual voiced lines might have helped but they get way too much crap
I put Dedue down the path of fortress knight, but instead of great knight, I made him into a war master and he tore ass. I think you just got stat screwed. Either that or I was blessed.
Same, every other thing I read said go War Master, or anything not a fortress.
@@diethylmalonate *cackles in damcer dedue*
Gilbert needed the tougue lashing that dedue gave him.
The end result of the video was very interesting!
Anyway now I'm wondering how Gilbert ends up next to timeskip Claude at 2:00 ...
hacks
I lost a good friend in college once because he was too ashamed to admit he was wrong and apologize to me & a mutual friend of ours. He just shut us out completely. This was 5 years ago, but I still think about what I could have done or said differently that might've led to a different outcome.
I love these character analysis videos. There are so many choices in Three Houses.
I literally want to see best woman Manuela get some love. Because she's such a deep character, ya know?
I like how they designed him to be disliked. His actions that result from his guilt seem illogical, but that's what makes it so incredibly human. To us as outside observers, we think "Yo asshole why don't you go back to your kid and wife that's obviously what you should do", but his feelings are so strong that he ends up doing the opposite. He believes that he's atoning by making himself suffer, but he's so blinded by his own self pity that he's unable to see how his own "punishment" is unintentionally hurting others.
I find it sad that people dislike him without thinking twice of how he's supposed to represent the often illogical and emotional actions of humans.
Wait hold tf up about that point @2:12. How the heck is putting Dedue on the road to War Master, literally the best class he can reasonably get into, at all a mistake??? Routing him through Fighter -> Brigand -> Grappler -> War Master (perhaps with a quick detour into Archer for Hit +20, which is not terribly unreasonable given that his top-tier Strength gives him a mean Curved Shot, anyway) seems like the best way to make the most out of him, with the worst-case fail-state being becoming a Grappler Guard Adjutant for Dimitri.
As for Gilbert, and speaking of Guard Adjutants, you're basically supposed to super-glue him onto Annette the second you are able.
Finally someone gives appreciation and attention to this character. Thank you Ghast McFaerghastastion
The line you end on is one of the biggest issues with Three Houses
Clearly the name of this channel is AnnetteBestGirl
So good writing held back by the self-insert character? Sounds about right.
Think goodenss there is someone in the community think byleth is bad
Lorenz of Alabia New Mystery*
Let’s just make the avatar steal Jagen’s lines
Gilbert suffers from "Avatar-fixes-everyone's-issues-because-Avatar" syndrome
@@NYEH-HEH-HEH YOU TAKE THAT BACK
Lorenz of Alabia but awakening and fates still would’ve been badly written. Awakening would’ve been a lot more tolerable, but fates still had too many other flaws in terms of writing
Title: "Fire Emblem's Worst Dad (that you can play)"
Me: "I don't remember any Fire Emblem fathers that played a role in the stor6 and were horrible to their children... I wonder who these guys ar-"
*Remembers Zephiel's dad*
Me: Oh...
Been waiting for this, and it turned out great. Gilbert has been one of the characters I found surprisingly relatable in terms of his own self induced struggles so i'm glad someone talked about him fairly. I'm also glad that i'm not the only one that found Byleth's support annoying and ridiculous. It really took me a bit while playing but I can assuredly say now that I absolutely hate their inclusion in the story.
Gilbert’s edge over other heavy characters like Dedue and Raphael is that he has a 45% dexterity growth and 30% speed growth. By comparison, Dedue has growths of 30% Dex and 20% Spd, and Raphael has growths of 35% Dex and 15% Spd.
While heavy armor units typically get below-average growth rates, it’s crazy how Edelgard seems to be the one character who absolutely excels in the heavy armor class.
The main reason is that she has a decent resistance growth rate (35%) and a pretty good speed growth rate (40%), especially for a heavy unit. It makes sense that she gets ridiculous growth rates since she’s one of the main characters, but I still find that outstanding.
This is just a thought, a stray thought but a thought none the less. Gilbert knows of Dudue, he knows his daughter, his wife, Ashe, all the others. They are people that he has worked for been around, lived with for a while. They have known him long enough that the wall is there and almost impossible to break. So they don't really try they give an attempt but be it on his end or theirs there is resesistance. Byleth is someone new, someone who walks up to him and sees him for what he is, an old fool who has let his past weigh him down. They then proceed to slap them out of it, because if a stranger sees it and realizes the weakness it gives new perspective on the situation. Of course the people close to you will want the best for you, but a stranger reaching their hand out, that is something special. Again though, just a stray thought.
Gilbert has FUCKING TWO SPEED in Azure Moon when you recruit him post timeskip.
WHY WOULD I USE THAT
In gameplay, Gilbert is basically spare Dedue
So did Patricia actually have a hand in that thing? I dont think we ever find out. I mean it is possible she was convinced or corrupted by the boob lady from Azure Moon, but I doubt she would want them all dead, considering that they helped her no? What was her relationship to Edelgard at the time? I mean they ran away together no? Did Edelgard knew her mom married another king or did she like completely keep away from her? We know that Dimitri didnt even know that Patricia had Edelgard.
I’m in a difficult, but probably not uncommon, situation when it comes to Gilbert. On the one hand I can appreciate the fact that the writers wrote a character like him. Someone that a lot of characters call out for his short-sighted and selfish mistakes, and that Annette especially doesn’t fully forgive him even at the end of their support chain. His support with Dimitri was also pretty solid, as is his chain with Dedue; he’s honestly a well written character.
Unfortunately due to personal reasons regarding my dad, Gilbert leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Justifications sounded like excuses, and his love for his family didn’t feel genuine. More like he was trying and failing to fulfill an obligation because he and Annette share DNA. Granted Annette was distant and bitter about the whole thing, which probably didn’t help.
Idk, it probably is my personal bias.
(Plus Jeralt, Seteth, and even Hanneman are RIGHT THERE)
"Growing guilt and shame over being too guilty and ashamed to apologize" and how do you break that cycle. Such good stuff! Him and Dmitri both have these circles of self-loathing (very different, but very there) and then they find something to live for rather than to hide from (Gilbert) or live against (Dmitri). Blue Lions are great because when things get so bad that what you hoped in is ruins, what do you do?
Depression is a funny thing, and often times it takes people that you care about or look up to that are outside of your problems to pull you out. Often times you are blind and deaf to those around you when in a deep state of depression. I think Byleth being able to reach him, and not his daughter, is something that can and does happen in the real world. More often then you might think.
It's worth noting that the lateness in the game of the A supports are of importance for Gilbert's turnaround as well. From Dimitri's psychological turnaround, to the drawing end of the war, this could well have shown Gilbert that there was in fact purpose in his life again, reminding him of his knightly ideals. Thus compounded with the words from Byleth, it creates a more plausible picture of the turnaround.
Gilbert fits perfectly into a game full of basically good people who make horrible decisions because of their haunted past.
I thought your name was a halloween thing as fearghast but now after all this time i finally get the wordplay.
Gilbert has 2 speed
I think you mean Gilbert has 14 speed once you're past his join chapter and he can certify into Paladin on those base ranks. But yeah he tends to come off as an Alois with less chapters to grow.
He's only good as a meat shield for his support map.
Worst dad? Well... okay, allow me to argue that Claude from FE4 is the worst playable dad. Read his conversation with Aideen in chapter 5 when he marries her. He knew full well that they were going to lose and he was going to die, and he still courted and married his wife despite knowing full well that he was going to die and leave his wife a pregnant widow mere days, at best, after knocking her up. And then he admits his deception at the last possible moment and barely even has any concept he did anything wrong. He knowingly brought two fatherless children into the world by lying to their mother. I'm frankly not surprised Lester never wanted anything to do with his inherited holy staff.
"umm actually"
You can argue that having a dead dad is better than a dad that totally ignore you and your mother your entire life even after he met you as an adult x).
@@Faerghast Hahaha, maybe I'm just really keen on sharing this info because almost nobody does the pairing so few people have seen the conversation. I was utterly shocked when I learned what a sack of shit Claude is.
Maybe the reason why Lester has blue hair is that Aideen was sick of his shit and slept with Lex or something lol
I always did find that conversation a bit harrowing.
I actually thought for a moment that you meant Claude from this game
Dispite what people say about him, I actually liked him. He's not my favorite character but he did more good than bad.
He definitely became one of my favorite characters. I believe because he reminded me of my own dad.
@@JessicaFlores-qd7jq is that so? That's sad. I hope that you try living your life happily.
“Fire Emblem’s worst dad.”
Garon: “Y’all hear something?”
A lot of people ignore the Church of Seiros characters, so I'm glad you're covering them in great detail.
What's there to ignore?
Rhea: A Tragedy.
Seteth: Best Dad
Flayn: Fish
Cathrine: Dog
Shamir: Emo
Cyril: Annoying Half-pint
Alois: Comic Relief
Gilbert: Worst Dad
I see Gilbert as a permanent victim. You can be the victim of something, but never developing beyond "victim" can be annoying in the context of a fictional character, and unfortunately wasteful in the context of a real person. It's especially annoying since Gilbert has a support group that is actively trying to help you (Annette, Byleth, even Dedue, in a tough love kind of way). In a way, he is a less satisfying version of Dimitri. Dimitri was a victim of something horrible, went through a dark point, and ended with a renewed purpose in spite of being a victim. Gilbert never got to that third point (probably because he's a less important character when compared to Dimitri). Gilbert has potential, as both a character and a story, but he never gets a satisfying end. He's left as a mope-y bad dad with the vaguest hint of redemption in his Byleth support
Gilbert reminds me of Renault from FE7. Two broken men failing to move on due to the heavy burden of their own guilt.
At least he didn't die like most dads...
*cough cough* Jeralt *cough cough*
Find it sad that the one FE dad death I found the best/least bad was Gustav in Fire Emblem Heroes. At least his was a heroic sacrifice for once.
As story narrative, being a prideful father who too ashamed to face his own family makes a interesting plot point. However, as a support conversation, it is such a whiplash that actions that was downright hurtful *increases* support ranks.
I thought up to this point that Byleth's existence in this game is fairly harmless to the narrative itself. Like, they're not a good character, exactly, but most of the time it seemed that any negative consequences of their existence were fairly easy to isolate and ignore. This video right here, though... I admit, it's making me reconsider that opinion.
I do think the conclusion to the Annette/Gilbert support line is compelling, but it is very much a shame and hard to accept that actual resolution comes through Byleth the way it does.
Yeah that's basically been they way it is since Awakening. They really push the "Avatar" character to be the only one capable of bringing full redemption/"golden ending" to whichever character they end up with, with only a few exceptions.
Well, to be fair, the pope, who is also God reincarnated, just told him to stop praying and love his kid, that's gonna turn the head of one of the most devout people in the game
I wouldn't say Byleth is the worst Avatar, Kris and Corrin exist, but Byleth suffers heavily from the fact that they effectively solve everyone's issues just by being near them, and it's really noticable due to their heroic mime tendencies.
Once again wonderful video Ghast, I just have one question for you about that intro, what would you prefer you refer to you as? Do you have a preference at all? Also you mentioned that you were experiencing something similar to Gilbert, if it’s serious please stop to take care of it.
12:33 Ghast, it's ok. We forgive you for not liking Ike.
THANK YOU! Gilbert gets SO much hate and it feels euphoric to see someone actually appreciate his character.
It wasn't really just Byleth who caused the change in Gilbert the change. Typically the way the support work in fire emblem the events in one support will carry over and be referenced in another.
So Byleth may have just been the straw that broke the camel's back, and having the usually stoic and keeps to himself Byleth call him out may just been another one person telling him what he already knew.
Hey, Ghast. This is my first comment on your videos as I've been a near two-year long lurker.
I was really interested in your points and what you said about how Byleth's 2 conversations with him feels unsatisfying, I absolutely agree with. Also, maybe it was just me playing on Maddening but other than to function as a guard adjutant, I genuinely could not find a use for him. Maybe on Hard or lower difficulties, I will.
This may be just a personal gripe I've had with, but I've noticed in this particular video that you go from point to point talking a little bit too fast. There were times throughout the video when I felt as though you were just talking and talking, jumping from point to point all without much of any adequate pauses. If I could make a slight suggestion, maybe slow it down with the pacing of your thoughts a bit so that I and some others who don't catch on as fast, have a chance to catch up. Just a personal suggestion from myself. Otherwise, keep doing you, Ghast!
he spent all the child support cash on apple juice
11:24 when you haven't talked to an online friend for a long time, leaving their message on read, but you feel too guilty to try and build that bridge again.
Somehow i ended up here. And i am tottaly in love with your analysis. Keep up the good work
I was about to spam Desmond but then you added the parantheses
I think Gilbert is supposed to be a shittier dedue (minus his personal skill it’s statistically one of the better ones.) as a punishment for not doing dedues paralouge right. Which is in line for FE that’s why units like saleh exist.
At least he’s not dead
Byleth's character could've been 10 times better if the lines you choose for him/her to say would be spoken after selected. It definitely would at least make it more convincing when other characters react, and make Byleth less of a boring protagonist.
Great analysis, and very true. Knowing how to fix something/make something right is far from the same as finding the courage to do so. Best wishes on your life journey!
making byleth a silent protagonist was a mistake, especially considering he/she is as vocal as everyone else in gameplay. robin was a blank slate, but still had enough personality to be considered a character in his/her own right
I'd take Byleth over Corrin any day. I liked Byleth more anyhow because I think that they're still an interesting character like Robin but not enough to dominate or take over the story like Corrin. I do wish they could've decided whether or not they wanted Byleth to be a self-insert or not, because I'd be fine without the name/BD customization.
I wish you would continue this series. i love seeing these in depth character anylsis(s?).
"Gilbert is unique to the blue lions route"
Shows clips with Claude
*FATHER OF THE YEAR*
Knowing what Gilbert done to Annette and her family , that explains her infatuation with Mercedes
Changing the channel name probably wasn't the best idea.
Why?
But how can you pass up on FAERGHAST?
It's so perfect.
Ghaster Alliance is the next name (calling it now)
Gilbert isn’t completely terrible, he just lacks the balls to reconnect with his daughter & wife. The worst father has to be the Gautier’s boys father. How could a man disown his own son just because he wasn’t born with a crest, this led to Miklan resenting his brother, and Sylvain hating that he had the responsibility of keeping the gautier crest bloodline going. Honorable mentions are Bernie & Mercedes dad.
Really well done. Nice video
I can honestly say that there isn’t a bad character among the playable three houses cast and arguably the best FE cast even my personal least favorite character Casper I still like I like Gilbert as a character for sure even though a lot of people hate him I can sympathize with him like you said and he feels like a real person with a lot of issues I can understand if people don’t like him but I feel like because of his conflict with Annette people don’t give him a chance because of it and just hate him
TBH Bernadetta is kind of not that great of a character (crucify me), but she has the 2nd coolest personal skill in the entire series after Fates!Mitama's so it's cool.
Gilbert reminds me of my dad, which is not a bad thing at all, I love my dad.
I know I'm late to the party, but I've just finished my first playthrough of FE:TH with the Blue Lions, and it was amazing, story was amazing and the characters were amazing. The fact that I know people who still play this game, people on the internet still talking about this game, is a testament on how great it is! Although, some support stories did leave a lot to be desired as some, and of course I wanted answers.
Like this arc for instance, I really loved this arc because the characters were written like human beings with their own familial disputes. I hated how Annette's father treated her, I sympathize and empathize with her almost as if I was the one who was abandoned. He was a bad father. But I also sympathize with Gilbert, this broken knight who has been self-loathing from breaking his own vows on protecting King Lambert, the Royal Family and his subjects, though instead of seeking penance from the comfort of his own home he flees. A character aimed to be as broken and horrible as everyone says he is. I'm very torn as I have experienced something quite similar (but has been long resolved) that I can't quite bring myself to hate him completely. (so apologies to everyone who does lol). But I really loved how his comrades held him accountable.
Faerghast, your video on Gilbert's resolution really highlighted exactly why I felt that I was left disappointed, Annette's supports were supposed to be the nail in the coffin, to help Gilbert allowing him the courage to confront his wife. But it didn't happen, it was a shame that Byleth had to be the one to set him straight and I know others would feel the same way. But now that's got me thinking, is Gilbert even remotely redeemable? You mentioned how his arc could have been written differently where Annette gets through to her father, but does Gilbert even deserve this much? To be happy with his family? Even for the sake of Annette's happiness?
Don't change your name if you don't want people to be confused or not recognize you. That's like UA-cam rule #1 dude.
Nice analysis!
Gilbert to me suffers from being the most route exclusive character. He plays no part in two of the routes. Crimson Flower he is an enemy you might remember from the beginning of the game. Unless you're playing Azure Moon Gilbert doesn't get to do much which I think is what hurts him more than any other playable character in the game.
It's a shame because he is an interesting character and a big part of Annette's character that unless you play Azure Moon you miss out on.
Surprised you didn’t address how he’s one of the few male-male S rank Byleth supports. And what a disappointment he is on that front.