Breaking down Scarlett Johansson's dispute with OpenAI
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- Actress Scarlett Johansson demanded that OpenAI stop using an AI-generated voice that she says sounds like her own and was developed without her permission. Intellectual property attorney Joseph Lawyer joins to break down the dispute.
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It’s not her voice. Doesn’t sound like her. Nobody ever guessed it might have been her. She’s not the only one in the world who sounds like that. Plus, that voice belongs to someone else who was paid for it.
I agree. Not her voice. Similar isn’t good enough.
I agree. Sure it kinda sounds like SJ (actually a lot), but if they didn't use SJ samples or claim that it was her (pardon the pun), I don't think she has a leg to stand on.
@@Lemorande How come they couldn't produce the actress then? or rather, how come they refused to?
@@vannoo67 It sounds exactly like her. Sam Altman also pretty much posted "HER" on his social media, referring to the movie where Scarlett played an AI voice.
The claim that they used a sound-alike actress falls apart when they refuse to produce said sound-alike to prove to us they didn't just steal Scarlett's voice.
I hope the company gets sued into the ground for this. AI is a disgusting scam and Altman needs to go to prison.
@@angelainamarie9656 Yes, but it also sound *exactly like* the voice actor that it was based on. Should she be excluded from working because she sounds a lot like SJ?
We all know AI is going to replace jobs, its just famous people that get attention for it.
Yeah as if they are somehow a sperate class of people from the rest of us.
You miss the bigger picture. She's not it. But it's 2024, era of jumping on the obvious and missing the long game... classic.
I don’t think they owe Scarlett anything. If my voice is not protected, hers shouldn’t be either.
What about the people who exist on the planet that sound like Scarlett.
Watch Her. It sounds 99% like Her. Altman even tweeted "her."
Coincidence?
Think for a few minutes based on even the facts here, and you know they have a case. She was in their building about to do it.. she did it in other movies... etc..
@@morbidmanmusic Ugh…I'm asking a different question since we're at a critical point on this issue. For example, consider these two questions:
1. Can OpenAI avoid legal claims by using the voice of a soundalike instead of Scarlett?
2. What happens if there is a person whose voice naturally matches a randomly generated voice? Do they have a case?
@@007SuperSoldier I believe (my opinion) that OpenAI would be able to win the case in court in such case. But they don't want to involve in such fight due to publicity reasons.
Exactly. There must have been a voice actress who gave permission to use her voice. Rockstar had a similar struggle with Lindsay Lohana and Kate Upton.
To be fair, I thought it was similar to her almost immediately when I was watching the demos. So I wasn’t surprised when I watched clips of “Her”.
Rediculously petty.😮
AI informed me that it's spelled "ridiculously."
@@VisceralSin Oh! Here is your prize, 1/2 of a stale cookie I found between the seat cushions.
Sam Altman is another reason women choose the bear. He does not understand what the word "no" means.
That sounds better than her actually...
yup it does lol
It doesn't really sound like her
It sounds like her performance in the film HER. A performance she developed (granted with the directors guidance), as most actors will do when developing character choices before cameras roll.
@@3hooks781 Yes it sounds like flirtatious sort of voice. She doesn't really own that. And now we for a fact know that it wasn't her it was a hired actress. That by the way has her own style of acting.
It really sounds exactly like her.
@@angelainamarie9656 it will it doesn't if you actually have ears. And by the way it wasn't her it was an actress
It sounds like her in her
This seems like it could have an easy fix. If you want an AI that sounds like Scarlett Johansson, just pay one of the many people who have a voice just like hers to license the use of their voice. Good luck convincing a court that 'regular people who sound like famous people' aren't allowed to license out their voice.
Good and simple idea.
Brilliant. You only forgot that the reason why they wanted HER voice is because no one else has Scarlet Johansson´s voice. Had it not been the case, they would´ve found someone else long ago.
The whole affair is about the uniqueness of our data which is being stolen and sold off by such crooks. But you don´t get that point it seems.
actually that's what happened here. OpenAI hired voice actress with a voice similar to Johanson's.
@@drob9673 So you believe Open AI´s lawyers or PR team? How old are you?
I am training my neural network with this video, please sue me.
The voice doesn't sound like her.. media wowed by the tech are exaggerating the similarity. anyone can hear the difference.
Johansson shouldn’t be allowed to refuse work then block every other female voice actor from getting work just because she once voiced an AI bot in a movie.
It's easy to claim it's not her, but the base foundation could be her voice, but they tweaked it a bit so as not to sound like her. Your voice can also be tweaked a bit to sound a little different. AI works on what's already out there -- it harvests data, then regurgitates an iteration of the voice/data.
That doesn't help OpenAI's case since they offered her the voice role twice and Sam Altmon saying Her is his favorite movie.
@@imiparerau432 😂 if you refuse a job offer, you can sue a company for hiring someone similar to you?
If they can substantiate that it’s a different voice actor, that fact is all that matters.
SJ assuming she owns every AI female voice just because she was in a movie about AI once is really the height of entitlement.
@@seth_sesu people here defending a company that will render them obsolete is crazy. Instead of attacking her, it’s good that she brought this out in the open. If we stay silent, tech companies will be emboldened to keep pushing the envelope at everyone’s expense.
@@denniszenanywhere interesting point but I don’t think we should just set facts of each issue aside because we feel threatened by openAI. I am absolutely not a fan of openAI. And I’m also terrified of being replaced.
But Johansson is a person with financial privilege unimaginable to normies like us. She isn’t one of us. She isn’t, as she wants us to believe, sticking up for us. And certainly not for the other voice actor who likely has nowhere near the resources Johansson does. Johansson is in it for herself.
So I would suggest we resume our criticism of OpenAI on objective grounds.
It didn't even sound like her though
Joe Rogan needs to stop the UA-cam ads that are using his voice to sell products. It's misleading.
I disagree with the idea that less famous people's voices are not protected. This becomes a matter of impersonation, which any individual has an interest in.
I'm guessing what they mean is, in practice the rest of us are too poor to fight a company like OpenAI or Google - if they want to they'll roll right over us, just like always.
And a right to do. Otherwise Stand Up comedians would have big problems.
You’re correct and it’s another reason the lawyer was not qualified to be interviewed. The first Right of Publicity case was about a baby’s photograph on a food package without authorization. The baby was not a celebrity.
That was a big flex, Scarlett
That sounded nonthing like her! What she smoking???
No. It sounds very similar to her character in the movie.
@@muadhnateno it really doesn’t
@@muadhnate Many people in the world have similar voices to many people. And they don't look the same to me
@@muadhnate You mean it is similar to her performance. That flirtation way of speaking. She doesn't really own that.
Jumping on the a.i. bandwagon for publicity
It definitely *_IS NOT_* "her voice" -- it was based on some other woman's voice -- and it doesn't really sound like ScarJo's voice. The timbre is distinctly different.
BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON THE PLANET , SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT VOICE. THESE CELEBS ARE FULL OF THEMSELVES.
So true
Yes, you are correct. But naming her Sky was an unwise move, because it is too damn close to Scarlett and in a court she could have a good case that this is not homage but infringement. The problem is that people can have multiple voices, think Mel Blanc as an example and no one can really copyright their speaking voice as opposed to a singing voice for music.
@@starventure SKYNET like in Terminator
Not only that but they did not clone Johansson‘s voice. They hired a voice actor who used her own natural speaking voice. The story completely leaves that out. I feel they are misrepresenting the situation
Actually I agree with her bc what if A.I. copied your own voice and used it for profit or portrayed you saying something that you didn’t endorse. A. I. can essentially steal your identity and steal the funds from your bank account by hackers. Think a little deeper and get beyond your own envy and hatred of liberal celebrities. I bet if it was Trump in her shoes you would agree with him.🤪
The whole framing of this situation is wrong though. The company maintains it didn’t use cloning technology to replicate Johansson‘s voice but that it hired a voice actor who used her own natural speaking voice. That doesn’t change the fact that the end result is very similar to Scarlett Johansson‘s, but in the spirit of journalistic integrity, you should get the details right
nobody owns inflection and tone.
With tons of actors, everyone has a voice similar to some actor. This whole business reminds me of patent trolls.
How do we know the company is telling the truth? How do we know they didn't hire a voice actor then use none of it, or part of it in combination with SJ? We can't but like you said, it should at least be part of the story.
@@d.Cog420Doesn't look like the program reached out to check, hit with the sensation, move to the next tall story,.. Or ignore a response if it doesn't match the narrative they want to project in to viewers minds. We'll probably see videos on "how we created this voice" with the performer they hired in a soundbooth.
Of course, the more conspiracy prone will then say the visuals are deep fake...
The voice is a "generic friendly American woman." It doesn't sound like Scarlett Johansson. So this seems like a baseless claim. Okay, I've never seen "Her," but in the Marvel movies, she doesn't sound like this. Remember when Lindsay Lohan sued Rockstar Games for using an image that she claimed looked like her in their ads? That one was baseless too, because it didn't look like her any more than it looked like any number of other people. An actor's voice and likeness are their property, but a voice or likeness that's only sorta kinda like theirs are not. That's a clear line the law needs to draw, or else no one will be able to use any voice or likeness that vaguely resembles any real actor.
No. It's like the character in Her.
@@muadhnatedoes she own the character or is it owned by the studio that made the movie ?
It shares some characteristics with the voice in "Her" but mostly because that character was deliberately performed and post-processed to sound flirty (and has an American accent).
In isolation it doesn't sound much like Scarlett Johansson IMO and if not for Sam Altman tweeting "Her" when they launched the demo (and the obvious similarity in concept) I doubt there'd be as many people claiming otherwise (don't get me wrong BTW, I could _absolutely_ believe that even after she refused their offer they used her voice internally and then tweaked it late in the day to sound sufficiently different that they had plausible deniability - if it ever gets to court and that comes out in evidence I won't be remotely surprised).
@@muadhnate I'm sure this idea was inspired by the movie, but this doesn't mean it's her voice. If she rejected to use her voice then using a generic American Woman voice like they did makes sense. Now because of all the backlash they got from Johansson they took it down, but it doesn't mean they were wrong for that.
It was a smart move by OpenAI to swap Sky's voice. Although the new voice is now even more similar to Her's voice, Johansson can no longer claim that her voice was cloned.
Sky’s voice is completely different than Scarlets.
I do not how she even sound like...
Try to learn how to ... sentence.
It's the movie "HER"
Wait a minute “cove” sounds like my voice 😂 😅😮
Great to see you John, I was just thinking about you.
It doesn't sound like Scarlet Johansen to me. Seems like side by side comparisons of a couple of seconds of voice audio would improve this video.
Scarlett should have a veto on voices of all people that sound similar to hers
All web content producers should push back. The actor’s and writer’s strike did.
I hope you didn't launch this video looking for definitive answers.
Is she going to sue all of the voice actors that sound like her?
No one thinks it's Scarlett. It's a pure money play. OpenAI doesn't want the bad PR, so they will pay her off.
I had “Sky” as my ChatGPT voice. I chose it cause it definitely reminded me of the movie “Her”. Loved that movie
Scarlett Johansson hates open AI, because all her friends from school, hate her with a Jack-o-Lantern emoji. 🎃
It sounds nothing like her. Also it doesn't matter if AI trains on copywrited material. EVERY creator is influenced by previous art they've seen!
For Her, pun intended, she should know there is no such thing as bad publicity. Now, she might make a little more pocket change since a lot of folks who were too young when it came out , will now see the movie for the first time. I'm sure its trending somewhere.
It's her voice 😮
There's actually a scientific way to determine if a voice is a 1:1 copy of another, and its called formants. Each human have a distinctive set of resonant frequencies (formants) due to the shape of the throat, skull, nasal cavity, sinuses, etc., and that's what makes a persons voice different from another, even if they are singing the same musical note for example. That's how voice recognition works for security purposes. It does not take into account accents or ways of talking, thou, which would be more on the imitation side of this question.
Insightful
Put the voices side by side, and you'll hear that they're similar but different. SJ had no say in this. I just lost respect for her.
It doesn't sound like her. OpenAi only have to prove whose voice it really is
They masked her voice, actually. Scarlett's voice is a lot lower than that, and they pitched it to make higher, but the actual tone and timbre, even way of speaking, it's very similar to the way Johansson say things.
Pitch it down and see. Prove it.
I would like to see a breakdown of the sound waves by professionals and compare the two. I don't think they're the exact same pitch. Similar but so are a million other women's voices.
Live from New York! It’s AI Live!
If writers are going to use AI then I'm going to expect shows and movies with excellent story telling and no plot holes. AI can easily go through the entire script and tighten everything up or at least make the writer aware of these things.
lost all respect for Scarlett Johansson
Me too.
It sounds like her. Very similar like you take an essay change a few words in each paragraph just to get pass t my plagiarism checkers. OpenAI obviously wanted her voice but they can't have it. So they made it very very similar.
They wanted a certain sounding voice. SJ is one that has that sound. Many women have the "sound" they are looking for. They didn't train on SJs voice so she is 100% wrong.
Yeah the internet is a public domain and there fore voice of another is not protected to be copied and used. Also even when one's voice is copyrighted ai can make more money than what fine would be by violation. Welcome too America
I would love my computer to sound like Scarjo
I find this is one of the most compelling issues individuals including artists face. Right of publicity and rights barring false endorsement are issues everyone might well pay attention too.
Having used the AI to create songs, I can directly say where it stole certain sounds, sections and motifs. At this point., law suits SHOULD happen.
The AI have limitations and now it's going to the films industry, multiple times AI can adopt bit of information but mix with others data, with right information it will be able re create the voice and be better version of someone
I think “Sky” sounds 100% like “Her” was the main inspiration and goal. But at the same time I think it sounds different enough that it can’t be mistaken for Scarlett Johansen. EVERY reviewer is paraphrasing the movie “her” when describing ChatGPT 4O, because it’s eerily similar in both sound and functionality. But when comparing A to B I don’t think they have cloned Scarlett’s unique voice. Then it’d be much more obvious. Open AI should just disclose their whole ai voice creating process.
If I do a cover version of a famous artist then the sounds are created by myself but I still need to pay for a cover license. So I basically need to pay for the inspiration of the melody even though I technically created something different.
I also think if they used Tom Cruise's voice and slightly altered it then there is no case but with THAT background story and everything it's nearly impossible to deny that OpenAi wanted to deliver the exact same "her" feeling and with all that in mind - they need to pay her.
@@its3amagain. they probably employed a voice actress, who is not Scarlett Johansen. And it probably sounds exactly like that actress. The amount of conversational training data I’m sure is immense. Like several years worth of various conversational recordings.
A cover song would be singing the exact same lyrics, and the exact same composition, and I don’t think that’s what’s going on here. I’d liken it to playing the same chords. But chords can’t be copyrighted. And the idea of having virtual emotionally alert female voice assistant I think is too generic to copyright. I still think they should disclose how they train their voice. They should show that the “open” AI is holding true to their original open mindset.
The attorney did not adequately explain right of publicity, creating a misleading legal impression. Right of publicity laws only apply to unauthorized use in advertisements. Creative or industrial uses do not apply.
I mean there is only so many voices. I always hear live streamers and think they sound so alike but arnt the same person.
Took the samples, ran them through a spectra analyzer; the harmonic overtones (unique vocal fingerprint) don't match, which means it's not her voice or likeness of her voice. Nice try Scarlett xD
Scarlett Johansson is right. Ai is infringing our rights as human beings. Ai is literally copying our looks, our voice, and eventually our traits and gestures. Eventually, you won't be able to tell apart who is the real person in the video.
They should put Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice, it would be much better.
If you listen to the scenes from Her, it's undeniably similar. But what if this is promotion of the product disguised as controversy? 🤔 Without controversy on the internet, events/product launches fade into the background.
Well, the promotion looks doesn't need any controversy at this moment, as all IT people are paying attention to it. but I still wonder why they let such foolish things happened
I mean how do you own your voice. Seems strange.
they're gonna have to cut her a check for $100M
There is a legitimate worry for what is an inevitable future, a future filled with deep fakes. Who can be held responsible for the imitation of anyone's likeness when used without a clear contract and permission. The future, a future that may be sooner than later, will displace not only most sources of employment, but generative AI/LLMs may create a world devoid of trusting others when they are not physically next to you. 😢
Cyber Security is a big problem here too. Do not forget people.
Already tried and her voice (Scarlett), next to OAI (Chat GPT4o) is not even close.... not similar at all.... not sure what is her issue....
Headline should’ve been “Scarlet Johansson sounds like a computer”. If y’all think this sounds anything like her or even like a human… get your ears checked. These AI voices are VERY easy to hear and have no emotion in their voice whatsoever.
She couldnt speak with biden about this at dinner instead of mocking our justice system with colin then suing. Wow Scarlett. Gold dig much 🤣
Next time get Adam Rosen (Spielberg and JJ Abrahams’ attorney). He’s an expert on AI IP……
The journalist with the purple tie, is actually an AI robot news reader programmed to be realistic
Ridiculous, theres billions of voices around the world. Good luck finding one that doesn't sound like someone.
I am extremely good at recognizing voices. Literally I can listen to a documentary or an animated movie and know who it is immediately and I did not sense that that was Scarlett Johansen even after I just recently watched the movie her. So why didn't I recognize her voice? Because it's not her voice. Similar but not her voice. Funny my brother sounds just like me. Maybe I should sue him.
Oh, pat yourself on the back much?!
@@morbidmanmusic why do you got to be so mean? to the contrary, I'm pretty critical on myself. Like my mother and many mothers used to say if you don't have nothing nice to say. Don't say nothing at all.
OpenAI is about to change the world, Scarlett Johansson ain’t about to change anything 🤦🏻♂️, she can get over herself.
Even if they remove, we can train ai again to match her voice individually. This is pointless Johansson will be replaced.
Ahhhhhh yeah it really sounds like her too.
Some unnamed voice actor was trying to make her way in the industry and got crushed by a Hollywood 1%er star that wants a patent on sexy flirty voices. It was NOT her voice, but it was similar, and she wants anyone similar to be cancelled. A powerful woman crushed someone coming up. Funny enough, I am more similar in my physical appearance to ScarJo, than I am dissimilar. Two eyes, a nose and a mouth, given to me at birth. If I start to make headlines, will she come after me because I am using her image? Facetious to make a point- No she wont, because I am not her. And this actress was not her either.
It’s her but come on let them have your voice we need it to be open your the voice of the nerds #Lucy
Get me onto that jury! I will get sky back for all of us!
Beside a company infringing on the rights of a person once more as done so many times before, i am not a fan of making AI indistinguishable from humans in all aspects. The looks of their avatars, voice or the form and function of their robotic hulls should be easily identifyable as synthetic. We are not even close to a point where we could claim we have the development or rather evolution of this technology under control or that we could say nothing bad could come of it, threatening us individually or even as a species.
Therefor having clear identifying features/charactaristics visually, audible but also in terms of functionality as maybe not everything should be done by AI and we want to keep some tasks to ourselves as the challange and how we met it defines ourselves in many ways.
What are these two talking about? This is easily fixable. OpenAI already disclosed the fact that they used another female voice actor for this voice and it’s easy to prove. In fact that woman already released a statement via her agent on this matter. Why the hell does SJ think she has the IP of every woman’s voice that sounds similar to her voice? It’s nonsense.
it's always about money
I thought it was #GabrielUnion
It doesn't sound like her. Even if they compare the "mannerism", any person who will spend time with someone having a distinct accent or way or speaking, could pick something of it unintentionally. And if people spend too much time having conversations with AI bots they will end up speaking like AI bots.
Rashida Jones, not Johansson.
Is this just some marketing or sacrlet's narcissm but pretty sure that's not scarlet's voice
It doesn't sound like her
(Didnt sound like you)
Metalica vs Napster all over again... =D
AI directly steal content. I have proof in AI music that is sick. So, .. it trains voices of real people who often don't get compensation. Even I can make ..steal a voice. It is extremely easy. I have a hit song with my stolen housemates voice... does that sound fair? That is the real issue here. The law will sort out SJ
Lots of people have similar voices. Get over it.
You miss the bigger picture. She's not it. But it's 2024, era of jumping on the obvious and missing the long game... classic.
Scarlett, its your voice, your voice is YOU, even your very soul. Nobody should be able to take that away from you and if they try or did they should pay for the consequences. Lawfully of course.
She’s not going to win the case. They build AI, so they can create a case that will be unwindable for Scarlett Johansson.
She must stop thinking the world rotates around her.
Sky?
Companies steal and use without permission...A certain sci fi spin off might have been copied from a certain other show bible back in 1993.
Sounds nothing like her….
Most actors copy people they know in real life. Who did Scarlett Johansson copy for "Her"?
This reminds me of when GTA5 released and Lindsay Lohan tried to sue saying Rockstar used her likeness for the cover girl. I honestly didn't even think about Scarlett Johansson until she came out and started saying it was her
That poor woman who got an amazing break for her voice acting career. Now everyone just ignoring her and that its her actual voice. Its disgusting.
Actors thinking they own everything for handshakes to facial expressions..
Goodbye are the days of you getting paid ridiculous millions to be on a screen just copying humans for an hour and a half.
Billions of people in the world.
You start connecting them and surprise surprise.. there is probably 100,000 that sound exactly like you.
Sky does not sound like Scarlett Johansson
No, the voice of the ChatGPT is not that of Scarlett Johansson. The voice models used in ChatGPT are synthetic and created using voice and speech processing technologies, and are not directly derived from the voices of specific actors or personalities. The voice outputs generated by the ChatGPT model are synthesized artificially and are not based on the voice of any specific person, including famous actors or public figures.
Well said but incorrect. They used an actual voice actor and hired a director and casting director for the all the voices on 4o
@@MikeChatman You have no proof that it was her voice
@@Adam35779 I also have no 👎🏾 proof the moon isn’t made of cheese and scarjo isn’t mutant ninja turtle in a reaaalllllly good disguise. But I trust the official statement of the lawyer. Grow up and admit a mistake don’t get all conspiratorial 🤦🏾♂️
Female voice. English. Yep, definitively Scarlett!
7 Bil people in the world, it will ALWAYS sound like someone.
Lets Cancel everything then...
Scarlett has an Ego will loose more then she would gain.
i cant here similarity honestly
You all want to jump on her, while the real problem remains... they're training the AI voices with real people at times, not licensed by the voices often, and even I can do it with almost no restrictions. I told my housemate who sings today, that I was going to steal his voice.. it didnt go well.
U understand that u can take a sound and modulate it into sounding what u want right? u literally commented on someone who does ableton and music production and works with singers.
and yes. music industry is dead because of AI in same way as Photography and graphics design is
u know how many people sound same ? why would ritch girl have to get more money instead of them because she is famous ?.@@morbidmanmusic
AI steals everything from the Internet.
voice is not even close to Scarlett. Only thing they have in common is a bubbly white girls voice, and that cant be copyrighted.
I hear more Rashida Jones than Scarlett Johansson.