Any flat Earthers reading this: That photo of the moon? You can do that yourself. That's within the reach of ordinary people, any time. A couple of questions: Does it look like a ball of gas, emitting "cold light" or whatever, or a cratered ball of rock that can reflect the sun's light? Which is it closer to? And you see that face it shows us? We all see that. We all see the same face. The same patterns of craters and shades. No matter where we are on Earth. Would that be possible if it were local? We would all see a different angle would we not? We see the same face, because it is distant to us all, and tidally locked. Do you see which scenario is more plausible? Better matches the observations? Thirdly, it's orientation will look different to Wolfie, in Perth or anywhere else in Australia, than in does to me in the UK, or anyone in the Northern hemisphere. It's the same face, but upside down. This is because the orientation (it's angle of rotation) is directly related to the latitude on the globe. The geometry of that only works if we are on a sphere. From a flat Earth, how could it possibly ever appear tilted, or upside-down? It simply couldn't. The observations, that you can make yourself, match globe geometry perfectly, and destroy the ideas of the flat Earth cult. Get out whilst you still have some dignity. There's nothing wrong with having been fooled. It happens to the best of us. But don't let your pride lead you further down this path of ignorance and paranoia. The longer you mire yourself in this delusion, the harder the facepalm will eventually be.
Flat Earth logic: "Trust your eyes. When your eyes see things that don't agree with the Flat Earth cult's teachings, don't trust your eyes - its an illusion."
@@thudthud5423 “There is no curve. If there is a curve, it’s because of fish-eye lens. If there is no fish-eye lens, it’s because lens of our eye is concave” - Flat earther
I have actually seen a flat earther claim that a full Moon would be seen from north of the Equator but a new Moon would be seen from the south at the same time. Flerfers do no real observing
@@Wolfie6020 it will make a nice present for my buddy. He's been getting really into astropotography, I've sent him a lot of your videos. Can't believe he was a flat earther once. Telescopes really can show you the wonders of the world we live in.
@@robotomachina I feel dirty just saying it. Will have to take my 4SE out to Redcliffe and watch the ships leaving the Port of Brisbane. I should also be able to see Polaris with a good telescope. Nothing should be in the way.
When they offered me the camera for free I almost declined as I have promised never to profit from this channel. The "loophole" was to then give the camera away to someone else for free. No profit for me. A free camera to a budding astronomer and a review some might find helpful. A win win and no promises broken. Oh except for all the NASA shill money of course.
@@Wolfie6020 Hey Wolfie, I know you certainly do not need the youtube money as you clearly are doing incredibly well for yourself. But I am just wondering why you made that promise? You have some videos with millions of views which I'm sure would translate to some decent ad revenue. Is there a specific reason why you don't want to make money from the channel? I mean at the very least, you could take the profit from the UA-cam channel and use it to fund educational trips for flat earthers that would actually take you up on some of your incredibly generous offers you've made in the past.
@@mitcHELLOworld Hi Mitch, At the time I only had about 1000 subs and was chatting with Phuket Word who promised me he was only in it for the truth. He stated he would never monetise his channel. He has broken that promise. I said the same thing. That I was not in it for any revenue. Just to share the truth. I never expected the channel to grow as it did. It could probably earn a few thousand each year now. I considered monetising it and donating everything to charity. I may even present that in a video and let my subscribers decide if they want me to do that. But I don't want to profit personally so as I got the camera for free I am passing it on for free.
@@Wolfie6020 thank you for telling the story man! I fully understand now. A man is only as good as his word in this world and I commend the integrity. But, yeah you’re totally right ! You could donate to a charity that fights for scientific literacy or something along those lines.
Thanks so much, great video. I just ordered a 305 with the little 165 30mm guide scope. I passed on the 105 and 205 in favor of the benefits of the 305 during a Black Friday sale. After looking at your distant antenna images, I'm glad I did. Your 130mm reflector is very sharp; I'm waiting on a Svbony 105 maksutov. This will ride on a Skywatcher AZ GTi in EQ configuration. Clear skys from Michael in NE Texas.
@@FrenchCrow Last I looked the P900 was really designed to point and shoot. Astrophotography requires a bit of manual control. Plus, I think you could get a really good Nikon DSLR and a lens or two for less. Been a while since I priced them though.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime I know about the P900 and its design. It also have quite a small sensor. I was joking about flat-earthers who say it's better than a telescope and show out of focus photos as evidences that NASA lies...
This makes it quite enticing to get a decent telescope setup with a camera. I was given a cheap telescope some years back. It was shaking so badly on its mount that it was hard to look at anything. I did manage to track the ISS in free swivel, which is pretty amazing given that it was tricky to aim at even stationary targets with that 1° FOV. I told you that quick reactions and eye-hand coordination from playing shooters would pay off. ;-) The thing is hard to use now because the plastic tray holding the tripod together broke. With a camera, any tendency to shake won’t be brought out by your own movements. You don’t have to bother keeping your eye in the perfect spot. You can make images brighter, not just larger. You can also store images and share them. There’s something magical about looking at things directly with your own eye, but magic has its limitations, too.
"This makes it quite enticing to get a decent telescope setup with a camera" I got out of it reasonably cheap, I already own a Canon 500MM F 4 Lens + Canon 1DX MKII, all I added was the EQ mount as I've always been interested in deep sky imaging, With this setup I should be able to get some pretty decent images.
I found the mirror movement on a DSLR was enough to cause shake, so I got a cheap secondhand Sony Nex-5 mirrorless. Works beautifully. Doesn't have the convenience of control from a laptop though.
@@osci08 . It's okay up to 800. I also use a cheap remote release. Unfortunately my DSLR does not have MU mode. It didn't help using it on a 1,000mm refractor scope either.
3:31 That is very similar to my Skywatcher telescope, but mine is blue and with just a regular equatorial mount. May have to get one of those cameras. :-)
It appears SharpCap is Windows-only, with no plans for other OS support. I think it should work with the USB camera apps on Android for people on a lower astronomy budget than Wolfie, but with probably fewer bells and whistles, and I can't test this for sure, so don't nobody go out and spend $1000 because I said it might work.
There are many other alternatives for Linux, mac and windows. Yes some are not as well featured but are great for Astrophotography. If you have Linux you may be able to run sharpcap under WINE. A quick google will confirm the possibility.
I try not to make a second general post, but I thought of something in the last couple of days comparing the FE cult's teachings and their contrast to reality. This has to do with comparing Polaris to the Sun: Let's take a look at Polaris first. We know it can only be seen in the Northern Hemisphere. The FE cult can't dispute that and I'm sure their only excuses have been "perspecive" and "ignore the evidence above you". So, take a look at it first from the North Pole in the winter. Its directly above and shines at a certain brightness. Now, take a trip to just north of the Equator and on a clear night at midnight, take a look a Polaris again. Its about the same brightness. Now, according to the FE cult's teachings, the Sun "circles above the flat plain orbiting the north pole and therefore would be directly below Polaris at midnight and has "shrunk due to perspective" so much that its invisible. Now compare the Sun's brightness from a ground observer to Polaris' brightness. Flat Earthers would claim Polaris appears close to the horizon due to perspective just like the Sun (which is invisible due to "being so far away".) So, why would such a bright object as the Sun disappear and Polaris be just as bright at the horizon as it would be directly above an observer?
The flat earth sun is never directly below Polaris on the flat earth. Where did you come up with that? The sun circles around the flat Earth. Polaris is in the center north
@@my2cents75 And, now that I've realized you replied to my comment (2 days later), let's take a look at what you said: 1. *"The flat earth sun is never directly below Polaris on the flat earth."* So let's look at the FE cult's teachings: a. "The Earth is a flat circle. The Sun and Moon 'orbit' around the North Pole remaining above this disk's surface 24/7," b. "Polaris is on the 'dome' directly above the North Pole." So, according to a., this would mean that at midnight, for any observer, the Sun would be directly North (and, due to perspective, too small to see). Now, as stated in my initial statement, just North of the Equator Polaris is observed to be just above the horizon. A Flat Earther might claim that b. Polaris appears to be so low in the sky because of "perspective". The fact is, according to the FE cult's teachings, both Polaris and the Sun would both be directly north at midnight with Polaris oriented above the Sun. 2. *"Where did you come up with that?"* The Flat Earth cult's teachings. Of course, Flat Earth cultists aren't expected to look at and analyze their own cult's model and they definitely aren't expected to compare the FE model against reality.
3. *" The sun circles around the flat Earth. Polaris is in the center north"* Simply said, yes, as I stated above that's how the FE cult's model explains things. Let me make your statement a little more detailed though: *"The sun circles around the flat Earth above its surface. Polaris is in the center north located on the 'dome' directly above the North Pole on the Earth's surface."* The obvious thing is, of course is that the FE cult's model (its teachings) DON'T line up with reality. Polaris disappears as you travel south of the Equator. Celestial rotation observably demonstrates that there are two celestial poles. And, of course, Flat Earthers will defensibly claim "our cult has no model" and yet claiming the Earth is flat and Sun and Moon (small and local) circle above its flat surface is definitely a model. Here's a video of celestial rotation near the Equator from Ecuador: ua-cam.com/video/ssJ8nohPSmg/v-deo.html (Provided by Timestorm)
Isn't it amazing. A video to help people get set up for budget astronomy and it's already got 4 dislikes even only 15 hours after you uploaded it. These are some petty and pathetic people to do that.
@@grahvis He does indeed. Oddly one of those thumbs down must have changed their mind because now it's DROPPED down to three. I guess one might have a conscience.
@@lorditsprobingtime6668 I actually like this trend. They're so mad that in some cases they have zero idea that the video isn't even about FE. Now they are starting to catch on and just ignoring the content and asking questions unrelated to the video. You can hear the desperate cry for attention in the comments.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime They fear the dreaded big bad Wolf lol. Yeah, I think you're right, I think a lot of the flat earth crowd are just so desperate for attention that they don't care if it's negative, just so long as someone actually responds to them. Pretty sad pathetic way to go about it though.
They seem to produce good equipment for the price. I have a number of their guide scope rings which are a fraction of the cost of the ADM gear and seem just as good.
@@Alysm-Aviation _"Pirate in the sky"_ reminds me of a cartoon character from my childhood, "Harlock: Space Pirate". In French: watch?v=x4yWOwGXQyY :o)
@@Wolfie6020 planning to buy one of their cooled camera's. Just went to get a price offering for my new roll of observatory. So i'll use my modified canon 20d some more. Wood prices are through the roof at the moment 😔
@@Jerre27 I have the 183 cooled on an ED 80 refractor and use a 294 cooled on the C 9.25 SCT. I never used the cooling feature initially but it does improve the image. Much less noise when you do long exposure.
Nice! I‘m looking forward to pictures from Jupiter:) By the way: do you still if the raw footage of your „one sunset - multiple flat earth fails“ video? I had an idea how to measure earth‘s radius with this footage. I tested the approach with the speed up clips and it looks very promising, but the precision should be better with the original footage. Thanks!
Unfortunately no, I don't have that footage. Here is an image of Jupiter with the camera. I should have included it in the video. drive.google.com/file/d/18Nf8XbAh8Try5im-V2FOaly23TG1AF-e/view?usp=sharing
@@Wolfie6020 thanks, that is a really nice picture! The surface is remarkably good resolved. Oh, this is unfortunate, but never mind: the existing footage allowed determining earth‘s radius to 0.4% of the mean value, which is still pretty close considering the fact that no surveying instruments were used.
I’m enjoying your astronomy videos quite a bit, Wolfie. I have a question I’m hoping you can answer. Is it possible to polar align a scope when you can’t see Polaris? I have a cheap manual EQ mount I use with my 80mm refractor and using my latitude and a compass I get a usable alignment put it’s really not close. I want to upgrade the mount and am wondering if a mount similar to yours can be aligned without a line of sight to Polaris.
For visual use, setting the axis to you latitude and pointing geographic north is usually close enough. Look up drift alignment method for accurate alignment where Polaris is not visible.
Yes there are several ways to do it. At home I can't see the South Celestial Pole so I can't use this feature. A Skywatcher mount has a polar alignment routine for use when you can't see a celestial Pole. I have used that a few times and it takes multiple repetitions of the process to get very accurate results but seems to work quite well. Page 38 on this manual explains it. inter-static.skywatcher.com/downloads/Synscan_V4_Hand_Control_Manual_SSHCV4-F-161208V1-EN.pdf Celestron mounts have a similar system called All star polar alignment www.celestron.com/pages/all-star-polar-alignment
You will be surprised at the performance of the 50mm guide scope, I use that scope and a sv 305 pro for guiding and a sv 305 for image. On a heq5 eq Mount with a Meade lx85 rs scope . Am only fairly new to Astro photography but it seems to give decent results. What would you suggest for remote scope and mount operation? Been disabled it is crazy hard to sit outside with the scope for hours. Cheers from the Atherton tablelands were it is cloudy for months on end but lucky enough to live in a proper class 1 or 2 dark sky area .
Hi Pete, I use Chrome Remote Desktop. I have the scope and laptop outside powered by a camping style Lithium battery. I can then operate it from inside on another PC with the remote software. It actually works great across wifi or the internet. Tonight I updated my computers at home in Sydney from Perth using the same software. You can run it through the Chrome Browser but if you have the App on both computers it works great. I was using it for this video. The laptop was running the software and I was screen recording on another computer. remotedesktop.google.com/?pli=1
@@Wolfie6020 cheers thanks will give it a go , I power my scope and laptop with 2 x 75ah gel batteries and a inverter for laptop , solar to keep it charged ,all stuff I have laying around not doing much since I can no longer go camping . This setup sounds perfect for me especially when I can’t sleep and am stuck in bed . You could call it astronomy with class all the gear outside in the cold and me in the warm. Cheers and thanks again
Awesome, thanks for the tip. How does this telescope compare with the white one you have there. It seems like the type of telescope you can take on a boat l
It's amplification of the signal from the sensor; to get a brighter image you either increase gain or increase exposure time. It's equivalent to the ISO setting in a digital camera.
@@Wolfie6020 when I get the time I'll be using the SVBony SV105 on the guide scope and a ZWO 290MC on the 4SE. I'll have to meet up with Hugh Jarsz when he get the camera.
@@Wolfie6020 Not as good as some of yours. I was out this morning at 4 am looking for geo sats. They can be tricky to find with a scope at 945 mm. If tonight cooperates I'm going to shoot again the Lagoon at dark... around 9:30. Forecast is mostly clear.
@@joecooksey4331 The eclipsing starts soon. I have packed up all my gear as we fly a bit this week and I don't know if I will be back each night. After next Sunday I'll set it up again.
@@Wolfie6020 They make a 80mm ED F7 that $450 on Amazon. Not a true APO but for deep sky the pics by one guy looked really good. I have to get something in the 80mm range. You can't shoot Andromeda at a FL of 945mm... the filed of way is way to small. The problem with astrophotography is there is always something else you need.... LOL. But my wife loved the pics... had WalMart print some and she sent them to a friend.
Hi Wolfie. I got no idea what you tried to censor in the beginning, or why, but the sticker gets fully revealed when you lift up the cover and you may want to edit that out. Just saying incase it's something important.
This is giving away how ancient I am, but more than 20 years ago, I was walking through the shopping mall at the World Trade Center in New York City. I went into a store that had a display of telescopes near the entrance. Being pedantic and sarcastic, I called over a sales person and tried my best to explain that someone had set up all the Newtonian telescopes incorrectly. The rears of the tubes were pointed up as if towards the sky, while the eye pieces and fronts were aimed down to the ground. It took quite a bit of explanation to convince the store employee that they were perfectly set up to take pictures of ants instead of stars. “The thin tubes have lenses, while the fat tubes have mirrors, so they work ‘backwards!’”
1/ Show a flight plan 2/ Eq mounts, how do they work? 3/ Sextants ?????????? Kind of going backwards with your "technology shows globe" but that's OK. ;-)
@Q Branch yes it’s a good plan to take off from a flat level runway, fly for hours and hours and hours across a planar earth and then land on the same flat plane you took off from. Simple reality.
@@mikep9604 I understand flying from point A to point B across a flat plane is a bit hard for you to understand. Next you will be telling me that the circles of equal altitude needed to navigate with a sextant are not a requirement to find you position.
@@johnniecharlton348 You don't seem to understand that flight plans that are based on the globe can't be used if the earth would be flat. Distances and headings would be different if the earth is flat.
@@johnniecharlton348 tell me something, why is it whenever I calculate my flight plans that I have to account for the globe when I want to do something as simple as calculating my flight distances ACCURATELY?
Any flat Earthers reading this: That photo of the moon? You can do that yourself. That's within the reach of ordinary people, any time. A couple of questions:
Does it look like a ball of gas, emitting "cold light" or whatever, or a cratered ball of rock that can reflect the sun's light? Which is it closer to?
And you see that face it shows us? We all see that. We all see the same face. The same patterns of craters and shades. No matter where we are on Earth. Would that be possible if it were local? We would all see a different angle would we not? We see the same face, because it is distant to us all, and tidally locked. Do you see which scenario is more plausible? Better matches the observations?
Thirdly, it's orientation will look different to Wolfie, in Perth or anywhere else in Australia, than in does to me in the UK, or anyone in the Northern hemisphere. It's the same face, but upside down. This is because the orientation (it's angle of rotation) is directly related to the latitude on the globe. The geometry of that only works if we are on a sphere. From a flat Earth, how could it possibly ever appear tilted, or upside-down? It simply couldn't. The observations, that you can make yourself, match globe geometry perfectly, and destroy the ideas of the flat Earth cult.
Get out whilst you still have some dignity. There's nothing wrong with having been fooled. It happens to the best of us. But don't let your pride lead you further down this path of ignorance and paranoia. The longer you mire yourself in this delusion, the harder the facepalm will eventually be.
Flat Earth logic: "Trust your eyes. When your eyes see things that don't agree with the Flat Earth cult's teachings, don't trust your eyes - its an illusion."
We actually see 59% of the moons surface. If it were a flat disc, we would only see 50%.
@@Sherwoody And, it would look more and more elliptic the farther away it was from us.
@@thudthud5423 “There is no curve. If there is a curve, it’s because of fish-eye lens. If there is no fish-eye lens, it’s because lens of our eye is concave” - Flat earther
I have actually seen a flat earther claim that a full Moon would be seen from north of the Equator but a new Moon would be seen from the south at the same time.
Flerfers do no real observing
I met someone who wants to get into astro photography so these videos will be very helpful for them.
Convenient timing on your video, was in the process of looking for a new camera.
This works great for the price. I would buy it without hesitation for planet and lunar work, also for guiding.
@@Wolfie6020 it will make a nice present for my buddy.
He's been getting really into astropotography, I've sent him a lot of your videos.
Can't believe he was a flat earther once. Telescopes really can show you the wonders of the world we live in.
@@Alysm-Aviation So, in other words he changed his "perspective". 😂
@@my3dviews you could say that.
It has really turned his life around.
Huge pressure on Hugh to show us some nice stuff :)
This would be a great setup to watch ships going over the curve. I mean, experiencing optical drop.
Yes the quality from a powerful scope and astronomy camera is much better than a P900 or P1000.
But won't that pull the boat back from over the horizon?
@@Darryl.M a risk we have to take
@@Darryl.M My big scope lifts boats up so much I can see the propellors on submarines.
@@robotomachina I feel dirty just saying it. Will have to take my 4SE out to Redcliffe and watch the ships leaving the Port of Brisbane. I should also be able to see Polaris with a good telescope. Nothing should be in the way.
SciManDan will be jealous, you're "Brought to you by SVBONY" was better than any VPN software.
When they offered me the camera for free I almost declined as I have promised never to profit from this channel. The "loophole" was to then give the camera away to someone else for free.
No profit for me. A free camera to a budding astronomer and a review some might find helpful.
A win win and no promises broken.
Oh except for all the NASA shill money of course.
@@Wolfie6020 Hey Wolfie, I know you certainly do not need the youtube money as you clearly are doing incredibly well for yourself. But I am just wondering why you made that promise? You have some videos with millions of views which I'm sure would translate to some decent ad revenue. Is there a specific reason why you don't want to make money from the channel?
I mean at the very least, you could take the profit from the UA-cam channel and use it to fund educational trips for flat earthers that would actually take you up on some of your incredibly generous offers you've made in the past.
@@mitcHELLOworld Hi Mitch, At the time I only had about 1000 subs and was chatting with Phuket Word who promised me he was only in it for the truth. He stated he would never monetise his channel.
He has broken that promise.
I said the same thing. That I was not in it for any revenue. Just to share the truth.
I never expected the channel to grow as it did. It could probably earn a few thousand each year now.
I considered monetising it and donating everything to charity. I may even present that in a video and let my subscribers decide if they want me to do that.
But I don't want to profit personally so as I got the camera for free I am passing it on for free.
@@Wolfie6020 thank you for telling the story man! I fully understand now. A man is only as good as his word in this world and I commend the integrity. But, yeah you’re totally right ! You could donate to a charity that fights for scientific literacy or something along those lines.
@@Wolfie6020 Looks like you stole Bob's sextant... 😉
that feeling when... you want a wolfie video so bad that you watch him review a camera you have no interest in whatsoever.
I am glad I found this channel. I just got into astronomy and purchased this camera and a bunch of other stuff. Soon I’ll give it a go.
Thanks so much, great video. I just ordered a 305 with the little 165 30mm guide scope. I passed on the 105 and 205 in favor of the benefits of the 305 during a Black Friday sale. After looking at your distant antenna images, I'm glad I did. Your 130mm reflector is very sharp; I'm waiting on a Svbony 105 maksutov. This will ride on a Skywatcher AZ GTi in EQ configuration. Clear skys from Michael in NE Texas.
I’ve recently purchased the svbony .
Thanks mate for an easy tutorial
The exposure setting was a really cool demonstration. Maybe P900s are not the real deal for astrophotography after all ;)
I wish they would unlock more capability on the P900. I am sure it only needs a firmware change.
@@Wolfie6020 I did a quick search and it seems there are hackers of Nikon cams...
@@FrenchCrow That is interesting. I wonder if there is a hack for the P900. I might go search for one.
@@FrenchCrow Last I looked the P900 was really designed to point and shoot. Astrophotography requires a bit of manual control. Plus, I think you could get a really good Nikon DSLR and a lens or two for less. Been a while since I priced them though.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime I know about the P900 and its design. It also have quite a small sensor. I was joking about flat-earthers who say it's better than a telescope and show out of focus photos as evidences that NASA lies...
I just ordered the 305C and should be getting it tomorrow.
I had this camera. Good price to quality ratio.
Yes it seems great for the price.
I bought an SvBony camera for my mom's telescope. I haven't been able to help her use it though.
This makes it quite enticing to get a decent telescope setup with a camera. I was given a cheap telescope some years back. It was shaking so badly on its mount that it was hard to look at anything. I did manage to track the ISS in free swivel, which is pretty amazing given that it was tricky to aim at even stationary targets with that 1° FOV. I told you that quick reactions and eye-hand coordination from playing shooters would pay off. ;-) The thing is hard to use now because the plastic tray holding the tripod together broke. With a camera, any tendency to shake won’t be brought out by your own movements. You don’t have to bother keeping your eye in the perfect spot. You can make images brighter, not just larger. You can also store images and share them. There’s something magical about looking at things directly with your own eye, but magic has its limitations, too.
"This makes it quite enticing to get a decent telescope setup with a camera"
I got out of it reasonably cheap, I already own a Canon 500MM F 4 Lens + Canon 1DX MKII, all I added was the EQ mount as I've always been interested in deep sky imaging, With this setup I should be able to get some pretty decent images.
I found the mirror movement on a DSLR was enough to cause shake, so I got a cheap secondhand Sony Nex-5 mirrorless. Works beautifully.
Doesn't have the convenience of control from a laptop though.
@@grahvis That’s quite touchy. You could see if the DSLR has a mirror lock-up mode. (Also speaking to others who may be reading this.)
@@grahvis What's the high ISO like grahvis?
@@osci08 .
It's okay up to 800. I also use a cheap remote release.
Unfortunately my DSLR does not have MU mode. It didn't help using it on a 1,000mm refractor scope either.
3:31 That is very similar to my Skywatcher telescope, but mine is blue and with just a regular equatorial mount. May have to get one of those cameras. :-)
I have the Sharp Cap pro version that I use for polar alignment. I need to play with it more because I use ATP for pics.
It appears SharpCap is Windows-only, with no plans for other OS support. I think it should work with the USB camera apps on Android for people on a lower astronomy budget than Wolfie, but with probably fewer bells and whistles, and I can't test this for sure, so don't nobody go out and spend $1000 because I said it might work.
There are many other alternatives for Linux, mac and windows. Yes some are not as well featured but are great for Astrophotography.
If you have Linux you may be able to run sharpcap under WINE. A quick google will confirm the possibility.
I try not to make a second general post, but I thought of something in the last couple of days comparing the FE cult's teachings and their contrast to reality. This has to do with comparing Polaris to the Sun:
Let's take a look at Polaris first. We know it can only be seen in the Northern Hemisphere. The FE cult can't dispute that and I'm sure their only excuses have been "perspecive" and "ignore the evidence above you". So, take a look at it first from the North Pole in the winter. Its directly above and shines at a certain brightness. Now, take a trip to just north of the Equator and on a clear night at midnight, take a look a Polaris again. Its about the same brightness. Now, according to the FE cult's teachings, the Sun "circles above the flat plain orbiting the north pole and therefore would be directly below Polaris at midnight and has "shrunk due to perspective" so much that its invisible. Now compare the Sun's brightness from a ground observer to Polaris' brightness. Flat Earthers would claim Polaris appears close to the horizon due to perspective just like the Sun (which is invisible due to "being so far away".) So, why would such a bright object as the Sun disappear and Polaris be just as bright at the horizon as it would be directly above an observer?
The flat earth sun is never directly below Polaris on the flat earth. Where did you come up with that?
The sun circles around the flat Earth. Polaris is in the center north
@@my2cents75 Everything you said was an outright lie, and you're never going to grow up, such a loser. Thanks for the easy globe win, Gary! :)
Oh, ha ha ha... Is that Gary Wybenga?
Such an idiot!
@@la-zmanxman5471 Hmmm...I didn't get a notification that Dishonest Dimwit had commented on my post until you made your comment. Thank you!
@@my2cents75 And, now that I've realized you replied to my comment (2 days later), let's take a look at what you said:
1. *"The flat earth sun is never directly below Polaris on the flat earth."*
So let's look at the FE cult's teachings:
a. "The Earth is a flat circle. The Sun and Moon 'orbit' around the North Pole remaining above this disk's surface 24/7,"
b. "Polaris is on the 'dome' directly above the North Pole." So, according to a., this would mean that at midnight, for any observer, the Sun would be directly North (and, due to perspective, too small to see).
Now, as stated in my initial statement, just North of the Equator Polaris is observed to be just above the horizon. A Flat Earther might claim that b. Polaris appears to be so low in the sky because of "perspective".
The fact is, according to the FE cult's teachings, both Polaris and the Sun would both be directly north at midnight with Polaris oriented above the Sun.
2. *"Where did you come up with that?"* The Flat Earth cult's teachings. Of course, Flat Earth cultists aren't expected to look at and analyze their own cult's model and they definitely aren't expected to compare the FE model against reality.
3. *"
The sun circles around the flat Earth. Polaris is in the center north"* Simply said, yes, as I stated above that's how the FE cult's model explains things. Let me make your statement a little more detailed though: *"The sun circles around the flat Earth above its surface. Polaris is in the center north located on the 'dome' directly above the North Pole on the Earth's surface."*
The obvious thing is, of course is that the FE cult's model (its teachings) DON'T line up with reality. Polaris disappears as you travel south of the Equator. Celestial rotation observably demonstrates that there are two celestial poles. And, of course, Flat Earthers will defensibly claim "our cult has no model" and yet claiming the Earth is flat and Sun and Moon (small and local) circle above its flat surface is definitely a model.
Here's a video of celestial rotation near the Equator from Ecuador: ua-cam.com/video/ssJ8nohPSmg/v-deo.html (Provided by Timestorm)
Isn't it amazing. A video to help people get set up for budget astronomy and it's already got 4 dislikes even only 15 hours after you uploaded it. These are some petty and pathetic people to do that.
Agreed.
Wofie is Kryptonite to flat earthers, he makes them look petty and pathetic.
@@grahvis He does indeed. Oddly one of those thumbs down must have changed their mind because now it's DROPPED down to three. I guess one might have a conscience.
@@lorditsprobingtime6668 I actually like this trend. They're so mad that in some cases they have zero idea that the video isn't even about FE. Now they are starting to catch on and just ignoring the content and asking questions unrelated to the video. You can hear the desperate cry for attention in the comments.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime They fear the dreaded big bad Wolf lol.
Yeah, I think you're right, I think a lot of the flat earth crowd are just so desperate for attention that they don't care if it's negative, just so long as someone actually responds to them. Pretty sad pathetic way to go about it though.
Thanks for the great video!
I have the 60mm SVBONY guide scope that does an excellent job.
They seem to produce good equipment for the price. I have a number of their guide scope rings which are a fraction of the cost of the ADM gear and seem just as good.
I am away to massivly upgrade my kit. But I was eyeing this up. Keeping an eye on your channel for more astro stuff.
Nice overview and a definite bargain of a camera. Makes Astro very accessible to more people
Would getting something like this be better than trying an adapter for an DSLR camera? Seems low res.
Do you know if ASIAIR PRO recognizes SVBONY SV305 as an ASI 290 MC color in the ASI app, since they have the same chip?
@nairb yeloc Thank you so much. I'd rather buy a ZWO so I'm sure I could control the camera with my ASIAIR PRO
Saw a sextant on the floor next to your table. Is that a backup for your plane's navigational system?
I like that idea.
All I can think of is of wolfie as a pirate in the skies. Arr Mateys
@@Alysm-Aviation _"Pirate in the sky"_ reminds me of a cartoon character from my childhood, "Harlock: Space Pirate". In French: watch?v=x4yWOwGXQyY :o)
ALL 90 DEGREES OF ITS RIGHT ANGLE!!
A sneak peek... More to come on that.
Can you tell me, about what is the better between SV305 and SV205?
Is the difference between the zwo and thre Bony camera that the zwo is actively cooled?
The 290 MC is not cooled. You need to get one of the Pro versions like the 183 MC Pro or 294 MC Pro. They have cooling but are far more expensive.
@@Wolfie6020 planning to buy one of their cooled camera's. Just went to get a price offering for my new roll of observatory. So i'll use my modified canon 20d some more. Wood prices are through the roof at the moment 😔
@@Jerre27 I have the 183 cooled on an ED 80 refractor and use a 294 cooled on the C 9.25 SCT. I never used the cooling feature initially but it does improve the image. Much less noise when you do long exposure.
How much exposure time does this have maximum?
Wow. How long can you set the exposure?
Nice! I‘m looking forward to pictures from Jupiter:)
By the way: do you still if the raw footage of your „one sunset - multiple flat earth fails“ video? I had an idea how to measure earth‘s radius with this footage. I tested the approach with the speed up clips and it looks very promising, but the precision should be better with the original footage. Thanks!
Unfortunately no, I don't have that footage.
Here is an image of Jupiter with the camera. I should have included it in the video.
drive.google.com/file/d/18Nf8XbAh8Try5im-V2FOaly23TG1AF-e/view?usp=sharing
@@Wolfie6020 thanks, that is a really nice picture! The surface is remarkably good resolved.
Oh, this is unfortunate, but never mind: the existing footage allowed determining earth‘s radius to 0.4% of the mean value, which is still pretty close considering the fact that no surveying instruments were used.
I’m enjoying your astronomy videos quite a bit, Wolfie. I have a question I’m hoping you can answer. Is it possible to polar align a scope when you can’t see Polaris? I have a cheap manual EQ mount I use with my 80mm refractor and using my latitude and a compass I get a usable alignment put it’s really not close. I want to upgrade the mount and am wondering if a mount similar to yours can be aligned without a line of sight to Polaris.
For visual use, setting the axis to you latitude and pointing geographic north is usually close enough.
Look up drift alignment method for accurate alignment where Polaris is not visible.
@@scott_meyer Thanks!
Yes there are several ways to do it. At home I can't see the South Celestial Pole so I can't use this feature. A Skywatcher mount has a polar alignment routine for use when you can't see a celestial Pole.
I have used that a few times and it takes multiple repetitions of the process to get very accurate results but seems to work quite well.
Page 38 on this manual explains it.
inter-static.skywatcher.com/downloads/Synscan_V4_Hand_Control_Manual_SSHCV4-F-161208V1-EN.pdf
Celestron mounts have a similar system called All star polar alignment
www.celestron.com/pages/all-star-polar-alignment
@@Wolfie6020 Thanks! I usually do business with Orion here, and I think they have a version of the Sky Watcher scope. I’ll have to check.
hi iwant to zoom to buildings like u did can i get 30fps into a pc?
You will be surprised at the performance of the 50mm guide scope, I use that scope and a sv 305 pro for guiding and a sv 305 for image. On a heq5 eq Mount with a Meade lx85 rs scope . Am only fairly new to Astro photography but it seems to give decent results. What would you suggest for remote scope and mount operation? Been disabled it is crazy hard to sit outside with the scope for hours. Cheers from the Atherton tablelands were it is cloudy for months on end but lucky enough to live in a proper class 1 or 2 dark sky area .
Hi Pete, I use Chrome Remote Desktop. I have the scope and laptop outside powered by a camping style Lithium battery. I can then operate it from inside on another PC with the remote software. It actually works great across wifi or the internet. Tonight I updated my computers at home in Sydney from Perth using the same software.
You can run it through the Chrome Browser but if you have the App on both computers it works great.
I was using it for this video. The laptop was running the software and I was screen recording on another computer.
remotedesktop.google.com/?pli=1
@@Wolfie6020 cheers thanks will give it a go , I power my scope and laptop with 2 x 75ah gel batteries and a inverter for laptop , solar to keep it charged ,all stuff I have laying around not doing much since I can no longer go camping . This setup sounds perfect for me especially when I can’t sleep and am stuck in bed . You could call it astronomy with class all the gear outside in the cold and me in the warm. Cheers and thanks again
Can this be used as an auto guider camera?
Does it work with firecapture?
How is the picture actually taken
Awesome, thanks for the tip. How does this telescope compare with the white one you have there. It seems like the type of telescope you can take on a boat l
6:10 Can you please explain what is the "gain"? Thanks.
It's amplification of the signal from the sensor; to get a brighter image you either increase gain or increase exposure time. It's equivalent to the ISO setting in a digital camera.
Suggest a title change: "Sharpcap advertizing featuring SV305 Antenna Camera"
I wonder if the camera gets detected by gcam...
I have the same guide scope paired with an SVBony camera.
How do you find it?
@@Wolfie6020 3D printing a mount bracket to fit to a Nexstar 4SE
@@Darryl.M This would be nice on a 4SE.
@@Wolfie6020 when I get the time I'll be using the SVBony SV105 on the guide scope and a ZWO 290MC on the 4SE. I'll have to meet up with Hugh Jarsz when he get the camera.
@@Wolfie6020 what are the specs of the laptop you are using?
I received NO software with mine
3:35 as you can see, it's a newtonian.
Is that a planetary camera or can it be used for deep space photos, too?
Due to the small sensor it will have a narrow field on view on a powerful telescope so mostly for Planetary work.
I like the idea of the camera, but I am not a tech person. So, it makes me a little nervous to order the camera.
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Hey Joe, I love the astronomy photos you shared by email. Very impressive work.
@@Wolfie6020 Not as good as some of yours. I was out this morning at 4 am looking for geo sats. They can be tricky to find with a scope at 945 mm. If tonight cooperates I'm going to shoot again the Lagoon at dark... around 9:30. Forecast is mostly clear.
@@joecooksey4331 The eclipsing starts soon. I have packed up all my gear as we fly a bit this week and I don't know if I will be back each night. After next Sunday I'll set it up again.
@@Wolfie6020 They make a 80mm ED F7 that $450 on Amazon. Not a true APO but for deep sky the pics by one guy looked really good. I have to get something in the 80mm range. You can't shoot Andromeda at a FL of 945mm... the filed of way is way to small. The problem with astrophotography is there is always something else you need.... LOL. But my wife loved the pics... had WalMart print some and she sent them to a friend.
Hi Wolfie. I got no idea what you tried to censor in the beginning, or why, but the sticker gets fully revealed when you lift up the cover and you may want to edit that out. Just saying incase it's something important.
Thanks for letting me know, that was quite unintended. I will try to remove the blurring. Nothing to hide there.
My 10" scope has a 2" eyepiece does the camera come with a 2" adapter? Or. Will I have to use the adapter I have for using smaller eyepieces.
You would need the adapter. It does not have a 2 inch adapter.
Any interest in doing some videos on astro-photography with just a DSLR? You might have done a video on it already and I forgot.
ZWO are good units but their so over priced. It makes it financially challenging for beginners.
"...and you use the standard focusing mechanism..."
You lost most of the flerfs right there!
First?
That was incredible. Thanks.
This is giving away how ancient I am, but more than 20 years ago, I was walking through the shopping mall at the World Trade Center in New York City. I went into a store that had a display of telescopes near the entrance. Being pedantic and sarcastic, I called over a sales person and tried my best to explain that someone had set up all the Newtonian telescopes incorrectly. The rears of the tubes were pointed up as if towards the sky, while the eye pieces and fronts were aimed down to the ground. It took quite a bit of explanation to convince the store employee that they were perfectly set up to take pictures of ants instead of stars. “The thin tubes have lenses, while the fat tubes have mirrors, so they work ‘backwards!’”
One Happy Meal coming up
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Your medal sir 🥇
Hugh Jarsz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1/ Show a flight plan
2/ Eq mounts, how do they work?
3/ Sextants ??????????
Kind of going backwards with your "technology shows globe" but that's OK.
;-)
Hi can you flick Brian’s logic your pitch and thrust data. Many thanks.
@Q Branch yes it’s a good plan to take off from a flat level runway, fly for hours and hours and hours across a planar earth and then land on the same flat plane you took off from. Simple reality.
Flight plans are based on the globe, and simple reality is that flight plans don't work if the earth is flat.
@@mikep9604 I understand flying from point A to point B across a flat plane is a bit hard for you to understand. Next you will be telling me that the circles of equal altitude needed to navigate with a sextant are not a requirement to find you position.
@@johnniecharlton348 You don't seem to understand that flight plans that are based on the globe can't be used if the earth would be flat. Distances and headings would be different if the earth is flat.
@@johnniecharlton348 tell me something, why is it whenever I calculate my flight plans that I have to account for the globe when I want to do something as simple as calculating my flight distances ACCURATELY?
A. manufacturer with drivers on optical media 🤣. Anyone use optical drives today??
I have a BluRay player in this computer and a lot of music and a few films on DVD.
A lot of industrial control software and drivers are still on CDrom actually.
The flat life is the best life. ❤️❤️😘
So you are running away and still claiming a sundial works on your infantile pacifier?
In the flat life, how does the gyrocompass work?
So how does the transit of Venus across the sun work on a flat earth?
*Johnnie* - Give me answers!!!
*Others* - Here you go.
*Johnnie* - Flat Earth rulez! Emoji * 10
It's the cowards life.