They are not going to talk unless they feel safe knowing that they can't get to them. I'm sure their parents threatened them and said if you talk you will end up like them.
This is suspicious. The mom told them to play outside while she wraps presents and the dad forgot to lock the gate that day when it’s usually already locked 🤔 seems like it was planned
The kids weren't even there at that house, they were already gone before they moved to that house, noone saw them at all the whole time they were living there
The AP were the last people to see them. They put the self at the crime sence. They know more but won't speak, the more they keep quite the worse it will be for them. I hope anyone involved with what happened to the boys get the book thrown at them.
I appreciate that you cover cases of all races, ages and background. Very different from most true crime and missing person UA-camrs. It’s noted. Thank you.
@@nicoleymacaroni you were obsessing with this comment. I definitely mentioned other ages and backgrounds too. Dont try to be cute with me. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained.
You're accusing others of racism that isn't there, and thats harmful. The aa population in the usa is much smaller than the white population so there will tend to be fewer kidnappings of aa children. I have seen numerous others covering these boys dissappearance.
@@destiniking7351 and genders, as well. Your comment is extremely relevant and I noticed it too. I just discovered Savannah and really like the way she presents these cases.
Girl this background is SO much better than the black background you have. My personal opinion but the black background is dark and depressing and these stories are already that.
Girl, I love your content but nothing makes me want to click out of video more than 5 mins of ads in the middle of the video. I know you said you are working on it and I am glad.
🤣 I pay monthly to SKIP ALL ADS. Creators still get a %… I also heard that NOW YT are adding their own amt of ads and I think it’s bc of course THEY make a % of everything creators make and if y’all don’t know, they get 40% if what content creators make. Yup! Ridiculous!!!!
I'm so glad to see you covering this case, Savannah! I think the boys never made it to California City, sadly. I wish Trezell and Jaqueline would make more statements. Again, I'm just so glad to see you spreading the word. #Wherearetheboys
Hmmm lots of questions here. First as a mother I would never send my kids outside to wrap Xmas gifts. I wrap them in my room or at night when my kids are asleep. That seems very off to me. I have a hard time believing they just got rid of the kids or sold them into sex trafficking. Mainly because this couple has 4 other children, 2 of which are also foster or adopted children. Why these particular kids? Why would they just decide to get rid of these two boys? I also have a hard time that this was a stranger abduction. Mainly because it’s a huge risk. However it’s happened before so is it possible? Yes but is it likely, No. Where the hell were Orrin and Orson when they dropped off the other 4 kids on the 19th of December? They couldn’t have left them alone in the house, if they did then that in itself is illegal. I get the feeling they did something. I would like to believe it was accidental and they felt the need to cover it up because it would make them look bad or negligent in some way. However it’s still wrong. If something happened to one of my kids, even if accidental, I would know to call 911 and the police. Would it suck? Yes. Could I possibly stand trial and go to jail if they believe I was negligent? Yes. But that’s just what a real parent does. Which then leads you to think maybe it wasn’t accidental. Maybe they couldn’t handle the kids, maybe there were problems of some kind and they just wanted to remove them. But then it’s like ok if that’s the case, they could have made a different choice. I don’t like all the holes in this case, it’s too much missing pieces of info. They know more than they’re saying. Either those kids never made it to California City or they did something to them on the 19th or beforehand and that’s why the kids weren’t seen on security camera footage. I want answers.
Personally, I believe the first theory. I feel like there are A LOT of clues that clearly prove how shady the parents are. I’m not saying that the parents necessarily had bad intentions, maybe it was an accident, but they definitely had something to do with it.
If there was an accident wich I doubt. Why do people not go to authorities and probably get probation for child neglect. Instead of panicking and getting rid of the bodies. That's a long prison term. What are they hiding. If someone got hurt or killed on my watch I'm calling 911 myself. If it was an accident they are acting very suspish. I doubt it was an accident. I'm saying for other people who are in a situation were someone dies by accident cops will have more trust in you if come forward. Now the parents are making shit up. You guys look GUILTY AS HELL.
Glad u are going to cut back on all the ads. Thank you for talking about this story I’ve been trying to follow it this is so crazy what the heck happened to those boys!!?! So sad!!
It doesn’t make sense that she told the boys to play outside .She could wrap the gifts in her bedroom and put the kids to watch some cartoon.What a coincidence exactly when she said for the boys to play outside the gate was found open and someone kidnapped the kids.They murdered the children .
for anyone interested, Christina Randall talks more about the biological mother and how she lost her parental rights to her children. these boys could’ve been saved. i’m praying for their safety 💓
@@cherylmcelveen2817 I believe that orrin and orson went into the child trafficking web. CPS took those kids away from their mother AND she could not get them back ! AND the AP could adopt them SO fast ?! They foster in 2018AND adopt them in 2019?! Something is really fishy AND the 2 adoptive parents look very suspicious 😞
These parents had the decency to rename those a children to give them a real chance in life and get rid of those ridiculous names. I think that shows they weren’t planning on offing them. Maybe an accident happened.
I've been following this case daily since it happened. It's so bizarre and I want these precious baby boys to be found safe so badly 💓 thanks for sharing!! Xoxo
Im a former foster child I was taken away from a very bad mother who did not care about myself and my 5 brothers lets not sugar coat it please we (former foster kids) already are forgotten and disregarded only to have people say "she she couldnt be a good mom" please dont disregard our pain and suffering being left abandoned and many of us like 2 of my brothers ended their lives due to the tragic lives we lived. Foster children matter more than the feelings of parents who ABANDONED them. I hear so many youtubers try to sugar coat and not hurt feelings come on its reality we were left and abandoned and many of these parents go on to live their lives like nothing happened having more kids taken by the system .... its tragic for the kids, i have to 2 brothers i had to say goodbye too because of their experiences. This infuriates me!!!
The fact that the West's entire family never use the name of the boys is very odd. Plus they've only given one statement that was confusing and not very free flowing. Also,different tenses were used.
just a thought but (if they weren’t missing before this as you said) maybe they took the other 4 children to their grandmother’s house so they could get those children out of the house, and then maybe they came back and harmed the other two little boys.. this is so sad but i definitely feel like the adoptive parents had something to do with this. their story and excuses just don’t make sense to me.
@@brunchmunchies Only two of the six were biological children. So they took two biological and two adoptive to their grandma's. Which makes even less sense. Which was the criteria to send specific children to the grandma and leave out other two?
Every true crime UA-camr I watch has ads and it makes me so happy because it’s so deserving. Especially considering the nature of the content and UA-cam tries to sensor it. Love your vids.
I am so glad you are covering this case! I know there is not much info but I wish more channels would cover this case... These boys need more coverage. I would love if you did a series on small missing and true crime cases regularly... you could put multiple cases in one video to bring awareness to smaller more unknown cases.
I understand you need sponsors to pay your bills; however, 8 mins of a 30 min video /5 ads is ridiculous! You are the one who made a choice to sign contracts with more than one vendor during the same time period... In all my years watching UA-cam, I have NEVER seen multiple sponsors on a single video. It makes it seem like money is now more important to you than the actual cases you are covering. 🤷🏼♀️
They ARE responsible for these kids missing, there’s no if, ands or buts to that! They were in the custody of these two and now they are gone, whether they walked off or what. It’s on THEIR time that they went missing.
In the Trezell's interview The father had his hands cupped beneath his pecks (Chris Watts), the mother swaying back and forth (Chris Watts), no tears (Chris Watts), need I go further?
I am so glad you are covering this case. I have been so emotionally invested because I've followed it from the beginning and it's just heartbreaking. We as a society need to be more vigilant and passionate about our missing and murdered fellow black Americans, or any other nationality for that matter, and finding justice for them. Especially children. We have not reached a place of equality in this area yet, and others honestly, and we need to do better. I will use my voice for that cause until there is not breath in my body to do so. Prayers for Cincere and Classic/Orrin and Orson, and for their recovery. ❤🙏💔🙏❤
This breaks my heart... beautiful little boys lost. I pray they're alive but statistically, I do realize it's unlikely. But I pray they will be found alive and unharmed. I think, personally, it was the couple that adopted Orrin and Orson... I really do.
To all the people that are saying "just skip the ads". Do y'all realize that her sponsors watch these videos, read the comments, and keep track of how many people sign up for the services from this video? If they see everyone being like "just skip the ads" and then everyone does skip the ads so nobody signs up using her code, she'll stop getting sponsors altogether. No company wants to sponsor a video for someone who's condoning not even listening to the ads from the sponsors.
Thank you I really appreciate you covering this case. Your so amazing and thank you for covering this case and telling me what really happened. I hope they're found!
Me too ! I find it disturbing they renamed these kids like they were pets. Imagine being taken from your mom & everything you knew. On top of that being called by a different name. That’s so selfish of the adoptive parents
The adopted parents were arrested last week for murder. In the press conference it was said the boys were dead for 3 month before they were reported missing they still have not been found :( :(
Being from Bakersfield I can say so many people are following this case locally and can all agree the parents definitely are suspicious , not only is California City’s community affected by these boys missing but also Bakersfield’s community since the adoptive parents roots stem from here, I just hope these boys are found soon 🤍
Hi Savannah, just one thing is that they were playing with Chalk, actually Chalk is their dogs name. So in my opinion that totally eliminates a stranger abduction. The dog would have gone after anyone trying to harm those little boys!
Happy to see a well followed you tuber finally on the case other than some of the few amazing UA-camrs on the ground and donate In my opinion the adoptive family definitely has something to do with it 100% guilty
The whole entire situation is very questionable to me. First off I don't know why a parent would put their child/children outside especially in the dark?! That's absolute craziness to me!! Then the other parent saying that they "disappeared" or supposedly walked out the gate!! None of it makes any sense 🤔🤔 I'm a mother and there would be no way I would put my children outside in the dark. I just simply hope and pray that those two babies will be found and brought home!! It's such a sad case but also strange especially when it comes to the adoptive parents.
There has been an update as of today. Both adoptive parents have been arrested on murder charges. Apparently, there is evidence that shows the boys were dead 3 months before they were reported missing. This is all the local news has reported. Such a sad sad case. These poor babies were done wrong by people they trusted.
They were never there. Those babies have been dead since the old house. They took the other 4 to grandmas so either to dispose of the 2 and to finally come up with an excuse to what happened to them. I'm sorry I mean the lies they have been telling everyone for months. Those 2 kids were never in the new house that they all moved to.
I find the fact that they renamed the boys so disturbing. You dont change a child’s name, its not like a pet. 😞 poor kids had already been taken away from their mom then called by different names. I cannot imagine the damage that does. Please find these boys safe and sound. 🙏
The adoptive parents story sounds fishy to me. U don't leave very 2 young boys outside when it's getting dark unattended like that. The dad was helping keep an eye on them, and he leaves the gate open by accident...?! How come there's no security camera going, to catch a suspect?!
the neighbors security footage has been made public. it’s on youtube on the neighbors channel. when this case first hit the media the neighbors channel name was all over but at the moment i can’t think of it. but it’s definitely available for everyone to see
So something that just crossed my mind... So I think the reason they finally were forced to report them missing is bc the oldest was getting close to school age. Before they were ok bc they could hide from everyone. But with the oldest getting close to school age that is harder to hide. Also I would love to know if the detectives have talked to the other kids and if yes when was the last time they remembered seeing them?
Man...this story just makes me nauseous...like ...I just feel so sad hearing the details and that feeling of dread. I pray for those boys!! I pray that no matter what has happened to them that they are safe and peaceful and happy ...wherever they are!!!
i’m pretty sure the adoptive parents had something to do with it .. there’s no reason that she can’t wrap presents in another room. it’s her fault they’re missing.
It is extremely disgusting to hear about how many people have gone missing or are needing coverage from being killed during this pandemic and yet not a single media site is covering this! Instead I see these stories from the few youtubers I am subscribed to
@@elizabethgregory white privileged at it finest. It’s also strange they didn’t have the kids a couple days earlier when they were dropping off all the other kids to the grandparents. They were too young to be left home alone. How are these people not in prison?!
Now, I have a question... 1% stranger danger abductions 9% familial abductions 3% persons known to family abductions That's only 13% Who is doing the other 87% of abductions?
Question: do you write things down before doing your videos or do you just tell it from memory of what you've read? You tell it so well, that's why I'm inquiring
I wanted to say I love Ana Louisa. I’ve had a necklace for over a year and it’s just as beautiful as the day it arrived. I have new pieces but was very impressed that my oldest piece looks the same as the new. The prices & customer service are awesome too. Very fast shipping. Love you , Savannah!
I love this set up a lot 💕 and her story of what happened seems suspect like others commented why not wrap them at night or in another room and check the gate!
Hi sav 👋,I understand you need sponsors but in the middle hun??not hating as I love your videos but could you put them at start or end pls??it’s confusing and disrupts your flow.as I said no hate hun and I appreciate your channel and all your hard work and it’s great your getting so many sponsors .such a 💔case,imo they haven’t been seen for ages,when did they last go doctors?dentist?school/play group?when were they last seen at a shop/takeaway/store??were they ever caught on camera I cal city??ring doorbell etc??imo the ap do know more,I’m in🇬🇧and sending 💖and🙏in the hope they are found safe and well but the longer they are missing ...😔
Holy cow these ads are excessive. I know you said you were working on it but seriously ive never seen a YT video with even half this many ads and this is a fairly short video... YIKES
What gets me is that the adoptive parents are not consistent. They say thy are inside, they say they are outside. They say the boy’s followed adoptive dad outside, then adoptive dad says he didn’t know the boy’s had followed him. Something funny about the adoptive parents
I don't mind the ads. I just think they should be done in the beginning and end of the video, that way they don't interrupt the story. Make your money girl
Hey Savannah ❣️ thank you for covering this case 💔💔💔 it seems that no matter where we are in the western world, this case has impacted the True Crime Community and many who don't follow True Crime, but have been exposed to these missing boys through that news or other social media are deeply impacted by this case and desperate for Orrin and Orson to be found!! I've heard that the West family dog's name is "Chalk" and the boys were sent outside to play with their dog... It's so sketchy that the Wests weren't clear about this during their public interview - and maybe this was deliberate omission so the news reporters, the angry mob present for their interview wouldn't ask questions about the dog, Chalk... Such as, why didn't Chslk follow the boys out of the back yard? Or, If strangers had seen an opportunity to snatch the boys, how come their dog didn't bark and alert the parents to the presence of strangers? Or, How were two toddlers taken from their property and not only didn't their dog bark, but the dog remained unharmed??. Every dog I've ever known has given a very LOUD INTRUDER ALERT barking whenever a person who they consider a stranger or a danger enters their territory!! Sadly, once again, it appears to me that the people who were privileged with the role of loving, caring for, responsible for, nurturing, protecting, defending and keeping children SAFE from the evils in the world, have been THE EVIL who HURT, ABUSE, SELL or MURDER their children!! My heart is breaking for the biological mother who it feels like out of the love she has for them as their mother, left them in Foster Care and was doing everything she had been told to do to have her baby boys returned safely to her... Their biological mother and grandmother have been let down by the system - these boys were left in FOSTER CARE and the courts allowed the Wests to legally adopt Orrin and Orson without even informing their biological mother! And at the time of the adoption, their mother was taking responsibility and getting her life sorted out to reunite with her sons I don't understand how or why the courts were able to make that choice for the boys when from everything I've heard, their biological mother was taking the steps necessary for the courts to award her foil custody of her boys again?? Weren't the Wests living on the money they're provided by the government for being the caregivers of their 4 non biological children?? I'm not sure if I believe that Orrin and Orson have been sold into "Child Sex Slavery" or a "Pedophile Ring"? Or to some other organised crime scene that abuses children... OR if one of the Wests (or maybe both??) accidentally killed one of the boys and then they decided to kill the remaining child (or maybe they killed both because they were abusing them by starving and physical violence and one of the boys died and so they decided to murder the other boy who was also dying?? There's SO MANY possible scenarios!!)... The Wests then lied to the other 4 children about where Orrin and Orson were and took them to vacay with Granny so they could return to their home, remove the boys bodies at night to avoid witnesses and CCTV footage and then put their bodies in the car to go to dispose of them (I also think that they left it long enough to report them missing so that any potential neighbors CCTV footage would've been recorded over)... This is my current "theory" based on the West's deceptive behavior and language during their public interview... Ae more information is released from the police, obviously my theory will change the more we know... I'd give anything for Orrin and Orson to be ALIVE and SAFE, and returned to the care of their biological family, however, based on past cases and missing children statistics, I know in my heart that the chances of them being alive are unlikely 😭💔😭 My deepest hope right now is that they're found and that whoever has hurt them is caught and brought to FULL JUSTICE!! 💗🌟💗🌟💗🌟💗🌟
I don’t think you should have to limit your ads!!! you deserve to make some coin girl! People must be missing that they can literally skip through it if they don’t want to hear it? confusing to me lol Make ur money queen we love you
I heard one of the boys had an unknown injury from the babysitter and that is why they were taken away... seems kind of weird. If that is true I wish there was more info on it... to me that doesn’t seem like a very good reason to take someone’s kids away.
Ryan Dean, the biological mother, was at work and when she came home she realized Orrin had a broken leg. The doctor's at the ER called CPS. CPS asked her how it happened and she refused to say who was watching Orrin. It's speculated it was her boyfriend. Since she couldn't guarantee his safety, they removed him from her. She wasn't meeting the requirements to get Orrin back, so she lost him. She was pregnant with Orson at the time and she repeatedly failed drug tests for marijuana, it's alleged, and that's why they removed Orson from her at the hospital. She had her parental rights termination and the kids were adopted in spring, (April?), 2019.
I love you but girl I hate these ads in the middle it interrupts the great story. Does anyone else feel this way or just me? I'm sorry I'm so not trying to be that annoying person to leave a comment I'm just giving you feedback. 😁♥️
I always feel weird and it creeps me a little bit when people that already have multiple kids, biological or not, keep adopting children. I feel like if they were collecting human beings 😬 Maybe I need to stop watching true crime podcasts and horror films. Anyways, the adoptive parents sound very suspicious in this situation.
I'm very curious of the adoptive family's relationship between themselves, with the other 4 kids and I want to know more about the personalities of the boys who are missing. Did they have behavioral issues? Did they attend daycare? There's just so many unanswered questions.
So yall hate commercials on regular TV too right? If you do please 🙏🏽 remember you can skip the ads here like changing the channel or fast forwarding on the TV.
I’m not sure how your contracts work or what other people think, but personally I don’t mind the ads. Get that bag girl! But I do prefer them at the start or the end of the video, not cutting into the case to talk about the ads. I feel like it just takes away from the case a little. That’s just my input though. I appreciate all your hard work and enjoy your content either way!
I wonder if the other 4 kids were questioned by the authorities about the last time they saw the 2 boys 🤔
They said Dec. 19
@@charley3759~And the kids were probably coached to say Dec 19th
They are not going to talk unless they feel safe knowing that they can't get to them. I'm sure their parents threatened them and said if you talk you will end up like them.
This is suspicious. The mom told them to play outside while she wraps presents and the dad forgot to lock the gate that day when it’s usually already locked 🤔 seems like it was planned
The kids weren't even there at that house, they were already gone before they moved to that house, noone saw them at all the whole time they were living there
Them kids never made it to that house🤷
The security camera already proved thats untrue they never left any yard
@@cammey3 i agree
The AP were the last people to see them. They put the self at the crime sence.
They know more but won't speak, the more they keep quite the worse it will be for them. I hope anyone involved with what happened to the boys get the book thrown at them.
I appreciate that you cover cases of all races, ages and background. Very different from most true crime and missing person UA-camrs. It’s noted. Thank you.
Let’s not obsess over race we’re all the same race we all come from Adam and Eve
@@nicoleymacaroni you were obsessing with this comment. I definitely mentioned other ages and backgrounds too. Dont try to be cute with me. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained.
It’s a lovely compliment Destini. 🥰
You're accusing others of racism that isn't there, and thats harmful. The aa population in the usa is much smaller than the white population so there will tend to be fewer kidnappings of aa children. I have seen numerous others covering these boys dissappearance.
@@destiniking7351 and genders, as well. Your comment is extremely relevant and I noticed it too. I just discovered Savannah and really like the way she presents these cases.
Girl this background is SO much better than the black background you have. My personal opinion but the black background is dark and depressing and these stories are already that.
Girl, I love your content but nothing makes me want to click out of video more than 5 mins of ads in the middle of the video. I know you said you are working on it and I am glad.
I agree. At the beginning is better than thw middle cause it takes away from the case.
Seriously.. So annoying!
Just skip it ?
just skip it lmaoo
🤣 I pay monthly to SKIP ALL ADS. Creators still get a %… I also heard that NOW YT are adding their own amt of ads and I think it’s bc of course THEY make a % of everything creators make and if y’all don’t know, they get 40% if what content creators make. Yup! Ridiculous!!!!
something in my gut tells me that the adoptive parents did something...
I'm so glad to see you covering this case, Savannah! I think the boys never made it to California City, sadly. I wish Trezell and Jaqueline would make more statements. Again, I'm just so glad to see you spreading the word. #Wherearetheboys
Hmmm lots of questions here. First as a mother I would never send my kids outside to wrap Xmas gifts. I wrap them in my room or at night when my kids are asleep. That seems very off to me. I have a hard time believing they just got rid of the kids or sold them into sex trafficking. Mainly because this couple has 4 other children, 2 of which are also foster or adopted children. Why these particular kids? Why would they just decide to get rid of these two boys? I also have a hard time that this was a stranger abduction. Mainly because it’s a huge risk. However it’s happened before so is it possible? Yes but is it likely, No. Where the hell were Orrin and Orson when they dropped off the other 4 kids on the 19th of December? They couldn’t have left them alone in the house, if they did then that in itself is illegal. I get the feeling they did something. I would like to believe it was accidental and they felt the need to cover it up because it would make them look bad or negligent in some way. However it’s still wrong. If something happened to one of my kids, even if accidental, I would know to call 911 and the police. Would it suck? Yes. Could I possibly stand trial and go to jail if they believe I was negligent? Yes. But that’s just what a real parent does. Which then leads you to think maybe it wasn’t accidental. Maybe they couldn’t handle the kids, maybe there were problems of some kind and they just wanted to remove them. But then it’s like ok if that’s the case, they could have made a different choice. I don’t like all the holes in this case, it’s too much missing pieces of info. They know more than they’re saying. Either those kids never made it to California City or they did something to them on the 19th or beforehand and that’s why the kids weren’t seen on security camera footage. I want answers.
Security cameras can miss movement sometimes, especially if its tuned to not be triggered by small animals, or if the night vision is shitty
*snaps my fingers* yessss girl everything in my head, written perfectly by you 🙂
Personally, I believe the first theory. I feel like there are A LOT of clues that clearly prove how shady the parents are. I’m not saying that the parents necessarily had bad intentions, maybe it was an accident, but they definitely had something to do with it.
If there was an accident wich I doubt. Why do people not go to authorities and probably get probation for child neglect. Instead of panicking and getting rid of the bodies. That's a long prison term. What are they hiding. If someone got hurt or killed on my watch I'm calling 911 myself. If it was an accident they are acting very suspish. I doubt it was an accident. I'm saying for other people who are in a situation were someone dies by accident cops will have more trust in you if come forward. Now the parents are making shit up. You guys look GUILTY AS HELL.
@@susanabderhalden9212 yeah u keep trusting the police, see how far that'll get u but okay LMAO
it could’ve been an accident with one child but not with two
When there's this many ads I skip them all anyways.... So many ads.
These sponsors are actually very useful I have no complaints whatsoever
Glad u are going to cut back on all the ads. Thank you for talking about this story I’ve been trying to follow it this is so crazy what the heck happened to those boys!!?! So sad!!
It doesn’t make sense that she told the boys to play outside .She could wrap the gifts in her bedroom and put the kids to watch some cartoon.What a coincidence exactly when she said for the boys to play outside the gate was found open and someone kidnapped the kids.They murdered the children .
Yep agree the advertising is too much . Your stories are great. An add comes up I usually start to look fir someone else to watch
She deserves to make her money!
for anyone interested, Christina Randall talks more about the biological mother and how she lost her parental rights to her children. these boys could’ve been saved. i’m praying for their safety 💓
Watch Nancy Schaefer’s videos. Family courts and CPS are the most prolific child traffickers by far.
@@cherylmcelveen2817
I believe that orrin and orson went into the child trafficking web.
CPS took those kids away from their mother AND she could not get them back !
AND the AP could adopt them SO fast ?!
They foster in 2018AND adopt them in 2019?!
Something is really fishy AND the 2 adoptive parents look very suspicious 😞
These parents had the decency to rename those a children to give them a real chance in life and get rid of those ridiculous names. I think that shows they weren’t planning on offing them. Maybe an accident happened.
@@mizztia5303 really? renaming the children proves all of that? please, elaborate for me.
I've been following this case daily since it happened. It's so bizarre and I want these precious baby boys to be found safe so badly 💓 thanks for sharing!!
Xoxo
Half of this damn video is ads maybe more wtf! At least tell us where to skip ahead. So annoying!
Thought this too...
Im a former foster child I was taken away from a very bad mother who did not care about myself and my 5 brothers lets not sugar coat it please we (former foster kids) already are forgotten and disregarded only to have people say "she she couldnt be a good mom" please dont disregard our pain and suffering being left abandoned and many of us like 2 of my brothers ended their lives due to the tragic lives we lived. Foster children matter more than the feelings of parents who ABANDONED them. I hear so many youtubers try to sugar coat and not hurt feelings come on its reality we were left and abandoned and many of these parents go on to live their lives like nothing happened having more kids taken by the system .... its tragic for the kids, i have to 2 brothers i had to say goodbye too because of their experiences. This infuriates me!!!
I’m so sorry you and your siblings went through this. I totally agree.❤️❤️❤️
@@AngieLea thank you❤️
The fact that the West's entire family never use the name of the boys is very odd. Plus they've only given one statement that was confusing and not very free flowing. Also,different tenses were used.
just a thought but (if they weren’t missing before this as you said) maybe they took the other 4 children to their grandmother’s house so they could get those children out of the house, and then maybe they came back and harmed the other two little boys.. this is so sad but i definitely feel like the adoptive parents had something to do with this. their story and excuses just don’t make sense to me.
That was my thought, they got rid of their bio kids so there was no witnesses when they harmed the two boys 🤔
Maybe to hide the bodies but I doubt those boys were even alive then, they never came to that house when they moved there
@@brunchmunchies Only two of the six were biological children. So they took two biological and two adoptive to their grandma's. Which makes even less sense. Which was the criteria to send specific children to the grandma and leave out other two?
@@brumella thanks for clarifying, as you said makes even less sense for them to leave the two boys
Poor boys, I hope and pray they find them alive 🙏🏻
I honestly think they sold them to someone or worse, they sold them to traffickers. I hope they find them soon!
🥺 that makes me so sad to think of. Adopted him just to hurt them. 💔
I pay a monthly fee for no ads, but then there are ads all through the video, it’s ridiculous.
Every true crime UA-camr I watch has ads and it makes me so happy because it’s so deserving. Especially considering the nature of the content and UA-cam tries to sensor it. Love your vids.
I am so glad you are covering this case! I know there is not much info but I wish more channels would cover this case... These boys need more coverage. I would love if you did a series on small missing and true crime cases regularly... you could put multiple cases in one video to bring awareness to smaller more unknown cases.
Please keep the ads. I want you to get paid for doing your job!
I understand you need sponsors to pay your bills; however, 8 mins of a 30 min video /5 ads is ridiculous!
You are the one who made a choice to sign contracts with more than one vendor during the same time period...
In all my years watching UA-cam, I have NEVER seen multiple sponsors on a single video.
It makes it seem like money is now more important to you than the actual cases you are covering. 🤷🏼♀️
That was a lot of sponsors 🙈🤣 I’m only use to people doing one per video 🤣
Right?! I feel like I fast forwarded half the freaking video.
I thought I was the only one who was lowkey annoyed lol I love her videos but with peace and love the amount of “commercials” was a bit much. 🥴
she is aware of the issue! due to contracts she is still doing them for another week but she said she will be changing it
Omg yes girl!! Been on this case since they went missing!! Thank you for covering it
They ARE responsible for these kids missing, there’s no if, ands or buts to that! They were in the custody of these two and now they are gone, whether they walked off or what. It’s on THEIR time that they went missing.
Thank you for covering this case. It’s been on my mind a lot lately
Glad to hear youre tweaking the ad situation, i feel like with such short videos it doesnt make sense to have so many in one video.
In the Trezell's interview The father had his hands cupped beneath his pecks (Chris Watts), the mother swaying back and forth (Chris Watts), no tears (Chris Watts), need I go further?
I’m so over all these sponsorships 😒👎
I am so glad you are covering this case. I have been so emotionally invested because I've followed it from the beginning and it's just heartbreaking. We as a society need to be more vigilant and passionate about our missing and murdered fellow black Americans, or any other nationality for that matter, and finding justice for them. Especially children. We have not reached a place of equality in this area yet, and others honestly, and we need to do better. I will use my voice for that cause until there is not breath in my body to do so. Prayers for Cincere and Classic/Orrin and Orson, and for their recovery. ❤🙏💔🙏❤
This breaks my heart... beautiful little boys lost. I pray they're alive but statistically, I do realize it's unlikely. But I pray they will be found alive and unharmed. I think, personally, it was the couple that adopted Orrin and Orson... I really do.
A 10 year old will notice when his brothers are gone and whatever they said to kids is going to be suspicious to authorities
To all the people that are saying "just skip the ads". Do y'all realize that her sponsors watch these videos, read the comments, and keep track of how many people sign up for the services from this video? If they see everyone being like "just skip the ads" and then everyone does skip the ads so nobody signs up using her code, she'll stop getting sponsors altogether. No company wants to sponsor a video for someone who's condoning not even listening to the ads from the sponsors.
Exactly! Savannah is awesome. Keep the contracts coming!
That was a ridiculous amount of ads 🙈
Thank you for covering this. I have been following this case since they went missing.
Seems so odd to me that all the other children were at the grandmothers house and the boys stayed behind with them... so suspishhhhhhh. Poor babys.
Thank you I really appreciate you covering this case. Your so amazing and thank you for covering this case and telling me what really happened. I hope they're found!
I been requesting this case everywhere to here a good summary of details this far. The story of the bio mom really sadddens me
Thank you for covering this case!
The video footage dispells the theory not someone taking them from the back for sure
Whoa I actually love their original names Sincere and Classic
Me too ! I find it disturbing they renamed these kids like they were pets. Imagine being taken from your mom & everything you knew. On top of that being called by a different name. That’s so selfish of the adoptive parents
her videos are 10 minutes of the case & another 10 minutes of sponsors
The adopted parents were arrested last week for murder. In the press conference it was said the boys were dead for 3 month before they were reported missing they still have not been found :( :(
Being from Bakersfield I can say so many people are following this case locally and can all agree the parents definitely are suspicious , not only is California City’s community affected by these boys missing but also Bakersfield’s community since the adoptive parents roots stem from here, I just hope these boys are found soon 🤍
Hi Savannah, just one thing is that they were playing with Chalk, actually Chalk is their dogs name. So in my opinion that totally eliminates a stranger abduction. The dog would have gone after anyone trying to harm those little boys!
They do not have a dog name chalk and that has been confirmed
Who verified that? I have heard from numerous sources that that is incorrect.
@@lesliemarie6358 their dog's name is not chalk
@@nae7941 I know..... I'm telling op that Im pretty sure what they are saying is incorrect. I didnt tag you.
The police chief said he has not heard that it was the dog. But it was assumed to be them actually playing with kids chalk
Happy to see a well followed you tuber finally on the case other than some of the few amazing UA-camrs on the ground and donate In my opinion the adoptive family definitely has something to do with it 100% guilty
Jon Chrymes video moved me to tears.
Don’t usually comment but I really love this style of video from you, with a real background etc, just thought you might wanna know! ❤️
The whole entire situation is very questionable to me. First off I don't know why a parent would put their child/children outside especially in the dark?! That's absolute craziness to me!! Then the other parent saying that they "disappeared" or supposedly walked out the gate!! None of it makes any sense 🤔🤔 I'm a mother and there would be no way I would put my children outside in the dark. I just simply hope and pray that those two babies will be found and brought home!! It's such a sad case but also strange especially when it comes to the adoptive parents.
There has been an update as of today. Both adoptive parents have been arrested on murder charges. Apparently, there is evidence that shows the boys were dead 3 months before they were reported missing. This is all the local news has reported. Such a sad sad case. These poor babies were done wrong by people they trusted.
Thank you for covering this case! Glad the word is spreading. This whole story is suspect!
Big question is WHERE were Orrin & Orson when they drove 4 older kids to grandmas Dec. 19? They were not in the van that day?
They were never there. Those babies have been dead since the old house. They took the other 4 to grandmas so either to dispose of the 2 and to finally come up with an excuse to what happened to them. I'm sorry I mean the lies they have been telling everyone for months. Those 2 kids were never in the new house that they all moved to.
Yay I've been waiting for this case to be broken down so hard to keep up with this case.
I find the fact that they renamed the boys so disturbing. You dont change a child’s name, its not like a pet. 😞 poor kids had already been taken away from their mom then called by different names. I cannot imagine the damage that does. Please find these boys safe and sound. 🙏
The adoptive parents story sounds fishy to me. U don't leave very 2 young boys outside when it's getting dark unattended like that. The dad was helping keep an eye on them, and he leaves the gate open by accident...?! How come there's no security camera going, to catch a suspect?!
Thank you for covering this case. 💙💙 let's bring the boys home. #wherearetheboys
So when this case first came to light I gave the foster parents the benefit of the doubt but my suspicions about them grow more and more everyday
the neighbors security footage has been made public. it’s on youtube on the neighbors channel. when this case first hit the media the neighbors channel name was all over but at the moment i can’t think of it. but it’s definitely available for everyone to see
So something that just crossed my mind... So I think the reason they finally were forced to report them missing is bc the oldest was getting close to school age. Before they were ok bc they could hide from everyone. But with the oldest getting close to school age that is harder to hide. Also I would love to know if the detectives have talked to the other kids and if yes when was the last time they remembered seeing them?
I don’t get why they would completely change those babies names… Why confuse them like that? what was the point!
Man...this story just makes me nauseous...like ...I just feel so sad hearing the details and that feeling of dread. I pray for those boys!! I pray that no matter what has happened to them that they are safe and peaceful and happy ...wherever they are!!!
i’m pretty sure the adoptive parents had something to do with it .. there’s no reason that she can’t wrap presents in another room. it’s her fault they’re missing.
It is extremely disgusting to hear about how many people have gone missing or are needing coverage from being killed during this pandemic and yet not a single media site is covering this! Instead I see these stories from the few youtubers I am subscribed to
I’m so glad your covering this case. I live in Bakersfield and have been keeping up with this case. Praying the boys are safe and can be found soon.
Who sets toddlers outside. Idc if there was a gate or not, totally sus!
Exactly n if it was cold enough for a fire in the middle of December!! Ugh these folks.
@@elizabethgregory white privileged at it finest. It’s also strange they didn’t have the kids a couple days earlier when they were dropping off all the other kids to the grandparents. They were too young to be left home alone. How are these people not in prison?!
The parents are 100% responsible!!! Those poor sweet boys, never even had a chance 😢
Now, I have a question...
1% stranger danger abductions
9% familial abductions
3% persons known to family abductions
That's only 13%
Who is doing the other 87% of abductions?
The stats I found were:
- family kidnapping 49%
- acquaintance kidnapping 27%
- stranger kidnapping 24%
@@angelinajannae3848 that's the kind of math I needed, you're great! 💝
@@lux.illuminaughty no prob 😘
Yay, something to watch. I so look forward to when you post. After you I have Stephanie Harlowe to watch.
A lot of misinformation in this video
What did she say that wasn't correct? I've never heard of this case before.
Question: do you write things down before doing your videos or do you just tell it from memory of what you've read? You tell it so well, that's why I'm inquiring
I think it’s written down and she practices. She does a damn good job.
I wanted to say I love Ana Louisa. I’ve had a necklace for over a year and it’s just as beautiful as the day it arrived. I have new pieces but was very impressed that my oldest piece looks the same as the new. The prices & customer service are awesome too. Very fast shipping. Love you , Savannah!
Literally the whole video is advertisement
If at any point you thought the adoption wasnt working out give them away font hurt them. This makes me sick.
I love this set up a lot 💕 and her story of what happened seems suspect like others commented why not wrap them at night or in another room and check the gate!
Sounds like the adoptive parents are involved they also have 4 kids. Those poor kids 😢
Hi sav 👋,I understand you need sponsors but in the middle hun??not hating as I love your videos but could you put them at start or end pls??it’s confusing and disrupts your flow.as I said no hate hun and I appreciate your channel and all your hard work and it’s great your getting so many sponsors .such a 💔case,imo they haven’t been seen for ages,when did they last go doctors?dentist?school/play group?when were they last seen at a shop/takeaway/store??were they ever caught on camera I cal city??ring doorbell etc??imo the ap do know more,I’m in🇬🇧and sending 💖and🙏in the hope they are found safe and well but the longer they are missing ...😔
I love watching your videos buttt i dont like how u advertise other businesses in the middle of your videos!
SAME and it’s for sooooo long! But I love her & her vids too much to stop watching because of it lol
Holy cow these ads are excessive. I know you said you were working on it but seriously ive never seen a YT video with even half this many ads and this is a fairly short video... YIKES
What gets me is that the adoptive parents are not consistent. They say thy are inside, they say they are outside. They say the boy’s followed adoptive dad outside, then adoptive dad says he didn’t know the boy’s had followed him. Something funny about the adoptive parents
I don't mind the ads. I just think they should be done in the beginning and end of the video, that way they don't interrupt the story. Make your money girl
I hope they find these two boys it's gone on for too long already
Omg yes ! Was waiting for a new one to come out
Hey Savannah ❣️ thank you for covering this case 💔💔💔 it seems that no matter where we are in the western world, this case has impacted the True Crime Community and many who don't follow True Crime, but have been exposed to these missing boys through that news or other social media are deeply impacted by this case and desperate for Orrin and Orson to be found!!
I've heard that the West family dog's name is "Chalk" and the boys were sent outside to play with their dog... It's so sketchy that the Wests weren't clear about this during their public interview - and maybe this was deliberate omission so the news reporters, the angry mob present for their interview wouldn't ask questions about the dog, Chalk... Such as, why didn't Chslk follow the boys out of the back yard? Or, If strangers had seen an opportunity to snatch the boys, how come their dog didn't bark and alert the parents to the presence of strangers? Or, How were two toddlers taken from their property and not only didn't their dog bark, but the dog remained unharmed??. Every dog I've ever known has given a very LOUD INTRUDER ALERT barking whenever a person who they consider a stranger or a danger enters their territory!!
Sadly, once again, it appears to me that the people who were privileged with the role of loving, caring for, responsible for, nurturing, protecting, defending and keeping children SAFE from the evils in the world, have been THE EVIL who HURT, ABUSE, SELL or MURDER their children!!
My heart is breaking for the biological mother who it feels like out of the love she has for them as their mother, left them in Foster Care and was doing everything she had been told to do to have her baby boys returned safely to her... Their biological mother and grandmother have been let down by the system - these boys were left in FOSTER CARE and the courts allowed the Wests to legally adopt Orrin and Orson without even informing their biological mother! And at the time of the adoption, their mother was taking responsibility and getting her life sorted out to reunite with her sons
I don't understand how or why the courts were able to make that choice for the boys when from everything I've heard, their biological mother was taking the steps necessary for the courts to award her foil custody of her boys again??
Weren't the Wests living on the money they're provided by the government for being the caregivers of their 4 non biological children??
I'm not sure if I believe that Orrin and Orson have been sold into "Child Sex Slavery" or a "Pedophile Ring"? Or to some other organised crime scene that abuses children... OR if one of the Wests (or maybe both??) accidentally killed one of the boys and then they decided to kill the remaining child (or maybe they killed both because they were abusing them by starving and physical violence and one of the boys died and so they decided to murder the other boy who was also dying?? There's SO MANY possible scenarios!!)... The Wests then lied to the other 4 children about where Orrin and Orson were and took them to vacay with Granny so they could return to their home, remove the boys bodies at night to avoid witnesses and CCTV footage and then put their bodies in the car to go to dispose of them (I also think that they left it long enough to report them missing so that any potential neighbors CCTV footage would've been recorded over)...
This is my current "theory" based on the West's deceptive behavior and language during their public interview... Ae more information is released from the police, obviously my theory will change the more we know... I'd give anything for Orrin and Orson to be ALIVE and SAFE, and returned to the care of their biological family, however, based on past cases and missing children statistics, I know in my heart that the chances of them being alive are unlikely 😭💔😭 My deepest hope right now is that they're found and that whoever has hurt them is caught and brought to FULL JUSTICE!!
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I pray justice is served. Very obvious whose responsible for the boys disappearance. Those two so called AD parents are pure evil.
I don’t think you should have to limit your ads!!! you deserve to make some coin girl! People must be missing that they can literally skip through it if they don’t want to hear it? confusing to me lol Make ur money queen we love you
Exactly right she even has time stamps
I heard one of the boys had an unknown injury from the babysitter and that is why they were taken away... seems kind of weird. If that is true I wish there was more info on it... to me that doesn’t seem like a very good reason to take someone’s kids away.
Ryan Dean, the biological mother, was at work and when she came home she realized Orrin had a broken leg. The doctor's at the ER called CPS. CPS asked her how it happened and she refused to say who was watching Orrin. It's speculated it was her boyfriend. Since she couldn't guarantee his safety, they removed him from her. She wasn't meeting the requirements to get Orrin back, so she lost him. She was pregnant with Orson at the time and she repeatedly failed drug tests for marijuana, it's alleged, and that's why they removed Orson from her at the hospital. She had her parental rights termination and the kids were adopted in spring, (April?), 2019.
Hate your adds
I love you but girl I hate these ads in the middle it interrupts the great story. Does anyone else feel this way or just me? I'm sorry I'm so not trying to be that annoying person to leave a comment I'm just giving you feedback. 😁♥️
Those brows are serving serious attitude today 😝 I love you and your videos and that you bring awareness to these cases
I don't like her brows. They normally look 💯 but not today😜 still love her
They look goofy
@@vbebb1750 @Brooke Slackta as women we need to lift each other up not tear each other down
I always feel weird and it creeps me a little bit when people that already have multiple kids, biological or not, keep adopting children. I feel like if they were collecting human beings 😬 Maybe I need to stop watching true crime podcasts and horror films.
Anyways, the adoptive parents sound very suspicious in this situation.
I listened to this on your podcast but still had to show support!!!!
Sponsers info is wayyyyyy to long girl
I'm very curious of the adoptive family's relationship between themselves, with the other 4 kids and I want to know more about the personalities of the boys who are missing. Did they have behavioral issues? Did they attend daycare? There's just so many unanswered questions.
So yall hate commercials on regular TV too right? If you do please 🙏🏽 remember you can skip the ads here like changing the channel or fast forwarding on the TV.
Just in time because I needed a break from doing my math work😌💙
Watching this in 2024 and googling to see if there was any progress. Adopted parents found guilty of manslaughter 💔
I’m not sure how your contracts work or what other people think, but personally I don’t mind the ads. Get that bag girl! But I do prefer them at the start or the end of the video, not cutting into the case to talk about the ads. I feel like it just takes away from the case a little. That’s just my input though. I appreciate all your hard work and enjoy your content either way!