Melle Mel on How Cowboy from the Furious 5 Coined the Term "Hip-Hop", Dying from Overdose (Part 10)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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In this clip, Melle Mel talked about the coinage of the term hip-hop coming from Furious 5 member Cowboy. Melle Mel spoke on Cowboy's bout with drug addiction and how his passing in 1989 altered the trajectory of the group.
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"Ya'll better go out and find a job cause that hiphop shit ain't gonna catch on" sounds like the opening line of the greatest hiphop documentary never made.
That reminds me of the beginning of Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's Thuggish Ruggish Bone song.
Dr. Dre sorta put this momento in, "Straight Outta Compton". The scene with his mother; when he drove away blasting Run DMC.
Remember the scene in the nuthin but a g thang video.....same sentiment by the older black guy telling dre to get a job
That's not the quote he said. He said "it's not gonna last forever" and that's technically true.
"Cowboy, The real McCoy. I'm chocolate all over like a Almond Joy."
Rip Cowboy.
"Bowlegged cool brother and you will agree, on top of the world for the ladies to see..."
Melle is an OG amongst OGs. Met him a few times and he has always been a true gentleman of the Hip Hop craft and an inspirational role model to the youth of America. Please get some deep interviews with him Vlad, he's the real one.
“Never thought hip-hop would take it this far...”
Time to get paid blow up like The World Trade
One of my favorite verses of all time.
Now Im in the lime light coz I rhyme tight...
💪🏽
remember when I used to eat sardines for dinner.
The fact that a legend, "the face" of the group, says another cat in the group was the heart & soul of the group and kept them together proves the theory... whoever is the leader on wax, isn't necessarily the leader on the move.
"The Face" of the group was Grandmaster Flash, you better stop playing bruh haha
@@Relish831 He was... until he bounced. Long gone by the time Mel is talking about.
Damn I can't even imagine what it must be like to be right there when the naming of an entire genre and culture that took over the world was created.
It was great.
Melle Melle is from the Bronx, we see the world different when your from here. Most people from the Bronx are fearless. Shouts to the LEGEND ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Fact. Growing up in the Bronx, you gotta be.
Funny
Brooklyn has entered the chat. No disrespect.
@@yaoblack3579 CONEY ISLAND UP IN HERE AS WELL. MERMAID AVE STAND UP!!
They need a movie base on the story of the Grandmasters flash & the furious 5
Hell yes
Mel does a lot of work for charity; he’s great with kids much respect to him
“You could be a shit rapper and still find success”... facts
Facts cuz its always someone gone like ya shit
Look at the music today its easy to tell
Tekashi 6 9
😂😂😂
FACTS! THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW! THESE RAPPERS TODAY CAN'T RAP FOR SHIT!
Mel has to be in the top 5 mcs of all time. Respec rudeboy from the UK.
@@dantexshelbyYes Yes. You Like your UK stuff. Ghetts went to school with my nephew. Should dig in to the older UK stuff from 80s , 90s like London Posse, klashnekoff etc.
Mel is the GREATEST E.M.C.E.E. OF ALL TIME!
According to the book, "There's A God On The Mic" by Kool Moe Dee, Melle Mel IS the G.O.A.T. He is ranked the #1 MC in Hip Hop history. Look it up.
Na
Cowboy had bars on that song Step Off. That verse could stand the test of time to this day.
Facts
"Gonna hang you on the racks like a pair of slacks, with another wack rapper tied to your back! "
Make Melle a regular guest
Anybody born in the Bronx have a lot to say.... Lord Jamar comes to mind 😂
I would love to see Kool Keith on Vlad
@@BornSavior555 haha for real
Didn't know that about hip hop. Mele dropping the knowledge. 🙌
Keith Cowboy's verse on "Step Off" is among my favorite verses of all time. He ripped that track. Respect 👊
I remember seeing Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five at the “T “ Connection in the Boogie Down back in the day. They were legendary even back then.
Oh yeah! I remember seeing many of the hip hop pioneers at the T connection, then hopping the 2 train to get back home.
I feel so blessed to hear his story this is golden
Hip hop fans claim they love Hip Hop, but don't care about a good origin story.
Hip: to be knowledgeable...im hipped to this
Hop: movement, dance, pop lock hop etc.
Knowledgeable movement
@@joshuasutton983 absolutely
Pop locking is from the west coast
@@bigolbabyhuey nobody is disputing that. Pop locking is still movement regardless.
@I BEthe hip hop term, movement, is a pun for MOVING and movement in the sense of what you are saying. Dont make it deeper than what it is. Pop locking is claimed by hip hop regardless on where it started.
"Remember Rappin' Duke? Duh-ha, duh-ha You never thought that hip-hop would take it this far" - Biggie
This is a legendary clip “in every other genre you need to be an expert to do it in hip hop it’s not like that you can be shit and still be big” that’s facts from an og👊🏾💯
You can tell the loss of Cowboy hit him hard.
Thanks to Cowboy of Furious 5 for coining the term Hip Hop.
My Teenage yrs from the summer of 1976 graduated from middle school & an older cat from my hood took me too see GRAND MASTER FLASH, THE INCREDIBLE MEAN GENE & THE 3 EMCEE'S so, many parties & stories
"No other brother cooler than you Cowboy." Rest easy. 🙏🏾🤎🎤
Love the way he talks.
Melle Mel telling the truth. A rapper can be trash, but a hot beat will make them millions
Hip = Up to date
Hop = Movement
shake up and have sex just like rock n roll
I also heard it came from the back and forth movement of the DJ between the ones and twos, cuttin' and scratchin'.. "hip hopping" between two turntables.
@@KtotheG Rapper's Delight started out " To the Hip Hop, the Hibitty... " so it had to start way before that.
@@EDOGZ818 Yeah, it was... I think the term was coined in '74... Rapper's Delight came out in '79... I wasn't around, so I'm going off of articles I read and stories from people who were around back then. I heard the Cowboy version, too, and the OP's... there's like 3 or 4 different arguments on its coinage.
Cowboy one of the most underrated rappers of all time one of the goats
Rap is something you do. Hip Hop is something you live.
-Krs One.
@4:53 You can hear that he's still in pain, I swear losing someone close can be painful....
Mels a hip hop veteran period
what a great interview, Melle Mel was at the forefront of hip-hop, he has a lot of insight into the creation and growth of an art form. Blessed he's still here to share his knowledge.
It all began with the music and people wanting to get together and dance and have fun. And then came the industry and ringtones and so much saturation, we'll just have to wait another 40 years to see how many songs from today will be remembered like The Message.
Melle Mel, one of hip-hop's greatest griots!!!
Can’t do nothing but respect this brutha proves hip hop has matured and manifested wisdom!
"Hip-Hop is not the music of the streets, its The Peoples music"
-Straight wisdom
Nah it's the music of the streets bitch
I heard a similar story or read about one on how the term "Hip Hop" was coined. I read that B-boys would try to go to downtown clubs to get in and the bouncers wouldn't let them in obviously because they were dressed like B-boys. They would call them hippey hoppers and tell them to hippey hopp back to the Bronx or some shyt. So from that they flipped it and used it as what it is today.
Im just repeateding what I read in "The Big Payback" by Dan Charnas. I'm not arguing with a legend on this okay.
It was people in the Bronx who called bboys "hippity hoppers"
@@bigolbabyhuey word
Yeah I heard it was a derogatory name first too
Hip hop is the most successful music genre because African Americans are the flyest human beings on the planet
@Chris Quiles This is EXACTLY why I said what I said. Let me know when you catch up
The Jamaican only had speakers, he tried to play reggae and all the blacks made him turn that SHIT off💯
@Chris Quiles
Jamaicans didn't start hip hop. Who told you that lie?
@Chris Quiles
I knew Master D aka Dj Lance personally. I didn't know Grandmaster Flowers personally but I seen him jam plenty of times. I never seen Harlem's Dj Hollywood and Eddie Cheba perform back then but I have cousins who hung out at places where they performed
Before Kool Herc ever touched a turntable, there where American Black dj's all over NYC jamming in the parks and in recreational rooms. Kool Herc mc was Coke La Rock, Coke La Rock was an American Black who parents where from North Carolina, not Jamaica
Cowboy was like the hype man of the group and hip hop term and he created two little words and put them together
Melle Mel is Fly as Hell!!
Word
One day I couldn't hop because of my hip and the rest is history - TK Kirkland
No
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😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 IYKYK
You tried 🤷🏾♂️
@@Octane44 nah it was good
Very surprising 😱 to hear Melle Mel say Cowboy was the back-bone of the crew. Growing up...me and my friends from the neighborhood had different favorites from the crew, but from listening, we all realized Melle Mel was the talent of the group.
Mel you're the greatest
R.I.P Cowboy Furious Five
i legit can’t tell if he’s happy or mad when he was talking about hip hop 😂
Nigga he from the Bronx & he a brother he ain't gotta show expression he one of the founders it's was just life
@@Discipleofyeshuahamaschiach i can tell you’re the life of the party... i simply was referring to the fact that he was complimenting and shitting on hip hop at the same time and i found it amusing nothing more nothing less
Fr on the one hand he wouldn’t be who he is without hip hop (and vice versa) but on the other he feels like he don’t get the credit & wealth he thinks he’s owed
@@kevindube7096 yeah i got that impression too, it felt like he was getting mad just thinking about it lol
@@flipperacci3k973 nah, hes just a typical new Yorker
REST IN PEACE TO DUKE BOOTEE
Salute the legendary Melle Mel 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Imagine someone copy-protected the term “Hip Hop” during its Genesis
I was thinking the same. Had that happened and Keith Kowboy were still alive he would have made billions.
It wouldn't work. They would be the only one using the term thus limiting its use and popularity. You can have a brand of hip hop like you have brands of cola. Not sure they would grant you the copyright either kinda like how LeBron couldn't copyright Taco Tuesday
Its debatable where the term originated. I once heard one of the Watts Poets claim the term arrived when they referred to parties as a hop and if something was cool it was hip. Last night we went to a hip hop
I don’t know if you can... Did anybody copy-protect the term “Rock n Roll, Country, R&B, or Pop? If they did then who?
@@dieselrecords Watts Prophets been “rappin” and “Hip Hoppin” since the late 60’s. I encourage people to listen to their poetry/music. I also encourage people to listen to their interviews.
Addiction is real💯🙏🏽
Facts
Melle Mel original G.O.A.T.
LL is the original. Melle is for sure the original MC a great but shit changed after LL...what we know as hip hop is based on LL. He is the prototype for modern rap.
After him, Kane and Rahkim were the two branches that hip hop grew from
Just remember. *All the M.C.'s you looked up to who you called real M.C.'s in Hip Hop were once children who respected this legend. Melle Mel one of "The Godfathers" of Hip Hop.
My son's fronts bout to "hip hop" right out his mouth 😮🤐
Hilarious!!!
Yo, You got Me Laughing in tears...can hardly see to type this text....🤣🤣🤣
Facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would have loved to see The Furious 5 involved in some of those epic battles back in the day against the Cold Crush Brothers or The Fantastic 5. It seems like during that era The Furious 5 was already making records and might have gotten a little too busy touring to practice for those battles.
It almost brings tears to my eyes hearing him describe what this art form has become. Street shit...
Lovely E. Bless Cowboy with his bow legs 🙏❤
They should own a percentage of hip hop
Why vlad always ask someone how they feel when one of their ppl died, obviously they aint feel right
85-94 is considered to be the golden era of hip hop and indeed it was because of the evolutionary process that hip hop was not only having in the culture but the way they still maintained leveraging within the culture.. intelligent hooligan, de la soul, pharacyde, wise intelligent, tribe called quest, brand Nubian. AYO u had heavy D who made a hot record called “don’t curse” wit all the biggest emcees at the time or Biz markie erase racism that featured the likes of big daddy Kane, kool g rap. Jungle brothers and leaders of the new school and tribe all did mad records together that was empowering the era of that time. Pac is a New Yorker. There is no argument! The issue is ppl like ice T, schooly dee, nwa too short. came in glorifying gangsta rap. Yes they had politics but they marketed street image when hip hop was in a different direction moving toward optimism and harmony.
Ain’t nobody reading all that😂
stfu
I agree with this comment. When artists like NWA debuted, they changed the entire trajectory of hip-hop's image and where the narrative was going. I remember Melle Mel being upset when NWA came out, he felt they were glorifying the street content extensively in the music. New York had it's fair share of guns, drugs, and crime however, Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five maintained to not rap about it in such a way NWA did.
@@LATQueens absolutely! NWA and too short almost entirely capitalized off of it and not to mention there were little to no art n philosophy too how they conducted themselves in interviews besides Cube! They didn’t care about the wellness of the culture, the way east coast artists did
Even though I'm guilty of liking my street music, I have to agree with your comment. I always like soulful hip-hop such as the groups you mentioned but nowadays you don't have that much artistic groups just street music.😒
I'm slightly puzzled. I had read over the years that Cowboy had contracted and died from complications of AIDS.
he did.
Thats what I heard too!💯
He could have got it from a dirty needle.
"I invented the term Hip-Hop." - TK Kirkland
Cowboys started the word hip-hop he invented the word hip-hop if you don't have proof do you have to show proof
TK was the guy telling them "that hip-hop shit ain't gon last"
I prefer this guy over lord jamar, he is not a bitter and hateful dude.
I remember having this conversation with this white lady about music back in 90/91 and I told her hip hop or rap music is the new rock and roll is going to be around for another 20 + 25 + years and she had no clue he couldn't believe I even said that now hip-hop is all over the damn world lol
Tupac questions coming soon
"that's the beauty of it, everybody is blessed"
Learn something new everyday. Hip hop
That shirt is so dope!
Great interview bring him back I was raised on there music
When is he going to ask him about 2pac and nas that night
RIP cowboy
Ken Burns needs to do a Hip-Hop/Rap documentary series..............
Yeah. He has to start in Brooklyn where it all began
@@bigolbabyhuey Some would say Bronx first with DJ Kool Herc. A series would basically pick up where the Jazz series left off. Jazz declined after the British Invasion and the Disco years when the NYC DJs/MCs created the new style.
The Netflix series The Get Down was good. Wild Style, Style Wars, Big Fun in the Big Town are good retro docs but we need these cats on record while they are still here....for history....
@@timdejohn4737
The best documentary is on UA-cam - FOUNDING FATHERS: The Untold Story of Hip Hop-Narrated by Chuck D
Loving this interview, Vlad.
Melke Mel know the history of hiphop from the inside out
I swear I thought Lovebug Starsky said he came up with it
Yep. And he coined "Money Making Manhattan" "Boogie Down Bronx" "Do Or Die Bedstuy"
@@bigolbabyhuey how are you gonna disagree with a pioneer ? Who are you😂
@@Hh-mu4ex
I'm an ol' head who lived in New York all my life
@@bigolbabyhuey ok well do the math since you from New York. Love bug version don’t even line up with events. Damn schooled by a ol head from the south that was born with that hip hop shit.
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Nicca babble
Fun Fact ..It was called " Hipity Hop " By the Rock & Roll Dudes and when by '85 When Run DMC redid that record with AroSmith it was " What it this Rap Shit ? ".....
1:49 Unexpected. Enjoying hearing his perspective said... on a few topics.
These guys are good looking, never slobs and it's sad how they abused their bodies then they were younger. Please don't ever go back to that life style. We still want you around..
I remember when Cowboy died, I was shocked...drugs hit them all hard.
I ain’t know Mel was this hard.
Always was
Keith Cowboy, RIP.
Im an idiot..... when i saw in the title of video "furious 5" i was thinking of the movie and was like there was no cowboy in that damn movie and the term hip hop was coined way before that movie came out..... it effed me up for a min for real.....lol
Cowboy was a dope lyricist
“who woulda thunk it”
Haha Too Legendary Man. Wow.👑
Thanks to Hip hop Vlad has gotten a job as a semi good interviewer and full time informant
Lovely E. Good interview vlad
So the term started out as a diss.
peace; Mel only happy when he hear the song "The Message!"
These some old people that he been around and he look like he in his 40s or 50s lol. I hope this comment don't get deleted like the under the breakfast club videos.
Why do they get deleted
It comes from the opening line in rappers delight
He said who wouldve thunk it
Good video
Keef Cowboy 🤠
RESPECT TO THE GODZ...
GMFF5....
Cowboy should have listened more to White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)
You could be a non skilled rapper. All you have to be is Consistent, have a "look" , "have a Story", and have a great team around you. They'll help you get money outside of rap to invest in. That'll give you longevity and leverage.
Lovely E. I know this man from the Fever. Hes a good man. Starchild is my children father. A DJ from the Fever
Is Starchild still alive?
@@jonathanvillalobos7994 no unfortunately. He passed away a few years ago. He passed his older daughters birthday. A lot of rappers including Sal from the fever were there.
I saw Furious Five back in 2006, I think it was only Mel, Scorpio and Kid Creole
"Hip hop, sada tay, run stimmy issa finna trucky doe"
Did he say, "who would've THONK it?" 😭😭😭
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"Hip Hop could only happy in America"-.........This is 100% true