How It Was At The Start of Vietnam War

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  • @shadekiller19
    @shadekiller19 4 роки тому +111

    It's amazing that large institutions like the History Channel devolved into aliens and pseudo-historical fantasy while small creators can produce such quality content. Props to you Mr. Hoffman

    • @caroltenge5147
      @caroltenge5147 4 роки тому +4

      they are doing what theyre PAID to do. Live with it or tune it out.

    • @macewbee
      @macewbee 3 роки тому +1

      @@pabloherrera7210 True

    • @macewbee
      @macewbee 3 роки тому

      Sad but true it's who ever is putting Money in there pocket now.

    • @alexander_the_great_1975
      @alexander_the_great_1975 3 роки тому +1

      aliens to alienate the people

    • @tylerm0089
      @tylerm0089 2 роки тому

      It's truly bizarre. Thank goodness David had the self- everything to make these films. I believe these films will inspire younger generations to continue to film everything real and genuine.

  • @dayender
    @dayender 4 роки тому +46

    This era had a lasting impact on me growing up, my brother was a recruiter, and tried to get me to enlist before I got drafted, but I waited and watched the draft lottery on tv. Of course I had a low number

  • @terrygrossmann2295
    @terrygrossmann2295 4 роки тому +65

    I remember that time as very confusing for a little kid at the time. One moment I would see soldiers and jets bombing. The next I would see protests and riots In the United States.
    Today with the pandemic and social upheaval it reminds me so much of the 60’s to mid 70’s.

    •  4 роки тому +4

      How can it? There is no counterculture.

    • @URProductions
      @URProductions 4 роки тому +3

      @ Whaddaya mean there's no counter-culture? Take a look at all these kids running around in the streets rioting and protesting nowadays. What are they if not counter-culture? They're just not as groovy as the hippies, man.

    •  4 роки тому +1

      @@URProductions Rioting and protesting in it of themselves aren't countercultural acts. What are the kids? Co-opted by big business and establishment politicians. That is what they are. These kids aren't offering an alternate vision for america beyond the typical surface level adjustments. Defunding the police is all well and good but those adjustments won't change the circumstances under which police and citizens interact. And it doesn't promise that those funds are going to anyone with effective tools at their disposal to address the root causes of issues. Without that this is all performative horseshit and not countercultural in the least. Just another thing to be bought and sold but the product isn't any different underneath the packaging.

    • @Irene-eu4iz
      @Irene-eu4iz 4 роки тому +2

      It feels like the society is regressing. Chaos opens the door for a dictator.

    • @alfredpaquin3563
      @alfredpaquin3563 2 роки тому +2

      If you remember the 60s, you weren't there.

  • @braaron77ify
    @braaron77ify 4 роки тому +7

    My father was a Vietnam Veteran. I was not born around this time, but decades later. However, the impact of this experience left a very profound mark in my father’s memory. PTSD was a known visitor to us. Something he/us had to live with until his passing.
    I knew of the issues and how America disagree with the involvement of this, I never saw it. Great documentary.. Thank you for sharing.

  • @lastlyLOVESmusic
    @lastlyLOVESmusic 4 роки тому +7

    Saved this to my "Watch Later" playlist due to my endless school essays. I'm going to treat myself and watch this after I turn in all my assignments!
    Thank you for your content! Especially ones of the Vietnam War. I am a Hmong millennial and am blessed in so many ways! I will admit, for many years due to wanting to "fit" in, I have distanced myself away of my roots. Now being 27, I am embracing, initiating and yearning to learn more about my people and how much the "Secret" War has affected them.
    My paternal grandfather was a general in the Hmong army and was able to pay his way to get his family across the Mekong River. My mother's side was also fortunate enough to live by the border of Thailand and didn't have to cross the Mekong river. But this doesn't disregard their pain. They struggled just as much as those who had no other option but to cross the Mekong.
    Again, thank you for your content. Will be sharing these videos with my dad! Do you by chance have any clips that solely focuses on the Hmong people?

  • @dancollins4755
    @dancollins4755 4 роки тому +10

    I loved your PBS series and thanks for this new stuff.

  • @shaunw9270
    @shaunw9270 4 роки тому +7

    Very interesting film . I once knew a bloke over here 🇬🇧 who was a teenage biker in the late 60's and ended up getting involved in Vietnam war protests in Hyde park in London .."LBJ , LBJ , How many kids have you killed today?" . Fast forward to 2020 and we have British kids protesting against American Police brutality ...

  • @ChorusArtists
    @ChorusArtists 4 роки тому +21

    Johnson believed what Kissinger told him, and not much else. He was a vile, despicable man who was involved in the assassination of his predecessor. He was sadistic enough to force Jacqueline Kennedy to attend his swearing in, still splattered with her husband's brain matter and in shock. There was no procedural need for the first lady to be there for that, he just wanted to make sure she understood.

    • @pagamenews
      @pagamenews 4 роки тому +5

      JFK was killed on Friday, November 22. The very next day, Saturday, November 23, Lyndon Johnson arrived at the White House at 9 AM and told Kennedy's secretary (Mrs. Lincoln) that all of JFK's things needed to be moved-out of the Oval Office by 9:30 AM. That's right - he gave her 30 minutes to clear away President Kennedy's stuff. There's a newspaper photograph of JFK's iconic rocking chair being moved-out and placed curbside at the White House.

    • @ClassPresidentAlejandro1999
      @ClassPresidentAlejandro1999 4 роки тому

      When was filmed?

    • @murrayterry834
      @murrayterry834 3 роки тому

      agreed but why is kissinger still hanging on?

    • @ChorusArtists
      @ChorusArtists 3 роки тому +3

      @@murrayterry834 Because he's a ghoul that probably isn't entirely human anymore. If you told me he was a reptile, I couldn't discount it. Maybe feeding on the young blood of his pawns? I dunno...

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele1 2 роки тому +3

    When Mr David Bowman spoke about having to write a will, it gave me chills. I thought of my father who served as a Combat Engineer in Vietnam. To all the Vietnam Vets who were insulted, had rotten vegetables thrown at that, were spat on, not accepted by peers in college etc. - Thank you for your service. You have and always will be my heroes.

  • @lisamb8128
    @lisamb8128 4 роки тому +9

    "What the hell do you think we care about dyin if you're gonna deny us the right to live" , some very powerful words Mr. Haden spoke. 65 years later and what has changed? Thank you Mr. Hoffman for your films.

  • @_D_W_
    @_D_W_ 4 роки тому +5

    Binging your channel right now and loving it. There’s so much inspiration in what you do. Thank you for making this art

  • @edwardarsiaga3569
    @edwardarsiaga3569 Рік тому +1

    Dam that helicopter going down was wild.

  • @Neslakim
    @Neslakim 4 роки тому +2

    I am really happy that i found your channel. There is so much powerful history that can be forgotten. Thank you for sharing.

  • @saynotop2w
    @saynotop2w 4 роки тому +15

    This era is fascinating.

    • @FortuneZer0
      @FortuneZer0 4 роки тому +4

      I must agree. How were the people so blind to the obvious socialist subversion when just a decade or two earlier the people were so vigilant?

    • @mikelockey2857
      @mikelockey2857 2 роки тому +1

      @@FortuneZer0 Bullshit ! ! !

  • @watchsymposium
    @watchsymposium 2 роки тому +1

    That intro song is amazing!

  • @SaigonMikael
    @SaigonMikael 2 роки тому +4

    25:48 "took more guts to come here [Canada]"
    I would be interested to see him argue that point with David Christian, the marine interviewed early in the video. He made a very clear statement about his feelings on those who went to Canada. You can find the full interview on this channel, uploaded maybe a month ago.
    Thanks for uploading the series, Mr. Hoffman. Watching it again.

    • @mikelockey2857
      @mikelockey2857 2 роки тому +2

      For decades I have dearly wished I'd had the knowledge / bravery to have resisted the draft and gone to Canada/Sweden, instead of becoming just one more uninformed pawn for the Corporate-Capitalist political structure of the U.S. I have NEVER had ANY negative feelings for the Vietnamese People, whether VC, N.V.A., or otherwise ( although I did/do despise Thieu and Ky ).

  • @ajisstillright
    @ajisstillright 4 роки тому

    Much obliged for this!!! Adore the 'Making sense of the sixties' series... Also "When the Musics Over" right on!!!

  • @nicunicucaesar2893
    @nicunicucaesar2893 4 роки тому +4

    I love this channel always interesting to watch these historic short films you sir are doing a service to the world by teaching others of the past dark or light 👍🏻

  • @michaelsullivan1262
    @michaelsullivan1262 4 роки тому +11

    I’d say Kubrick took your intro for his Full Metal Jacket.

  • @curtisgrupe5730
    @curtisgrupe5730 4 роки тому

    Interesting video I've talked to quite a few guys who lived through this turbulent era and like most of them nobody ever heard of vietnam until the start of the conflict thank you david👍👍

  • @AlerionGamingHD
    @AlerionGamingHD 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for uploading these, a lot to learn from your videos

  • @wendilandkammer8368
    @wendilandkammer8368 2 роки тому

    I wish the kids in high school could see these. I think it would help them see a bigger picture than they have now.

  • @JustNopeX
    @JustNopeX 4 роки тому +3

    I'm going to love watching this. I was born in '61 so I was young. Not to say I don't remember, but many of my memories are vague.
    Edit; Thank you

  • @chrisbyrd6715
    @chrisbyrd6715 4 роки тому

    I just stumbled across your channel while doing supplemental work for a piece I'm currently writing and I love it! Thanks so much for sharing!

    • @chrisbyrd6715
      @chrisbyrd6715 4 роки тому

      I will take that as an impressive accolade to add to my current credits!

  • @chrisoakes3649
    @chrisoakes3649 4 роки тому +6

    The Bloods-“Soul Brothers of Nam”

  • @nealgrey6485
    @nealgrey6485 4 роки тому +1

    I was told that that first “teach-in” was so successful, because the freshman students were turning 19 years of age, and realized that they could be drafted. It made sense to me at the time,

  • @CrusadeHH
    @CrusadeHH 4 роки тому +4

    I love all of these making sense of the sixties videos really gives me something to watch wish there was more of it‼️

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  4 роки тому +3

      Search those words on my UA-cam channel making sense of and you will find many more clips from the series which is 6 hours long.

  • @maureendrozda9960
    @maureendrozda9960 Рік тому

    My Brother, Who Volunteered, Had To Look Up Vietnam On A World Map, Too...."WHERE Are They Sending Me?" Then Upon Returning From His VERY LONG Year Tour - He Helped Our Youngest Brother Get Consciencious Objector Status & Protested The War! Our Oldest Brother Was Already In Okinawa.... These Years Were A Nightmare!!

  • @BobSmith-ui4qu
    @BobSmith-ui4qu 3 роки тому +2

    What’s funny is that in the end the USA and it’s allies Lost the War and had to withdraw from Vietnam. Now mfg jobs from the us went to Vietnam.

  • @midautumnsmoon4859
    @midautumnsmoon4859 4 роки тому +3

    I really want to watch the rest of this documentary

  • @MarkGormlyIsHung
    @MarkGormlyIsHung 4 роки тому +7

    I was in Nam. Seen some stuff, man. Wouldn't recommend it.

  • @nerdbamarich2063
    @nerdbamarich2063 4 роки тому

    Thank you for your continuous sharing of your great content my friend.

  • @runderwo
    @runderwo 2 роки тому

    What's wrong with the audio at 17:00?

  • @J_Teriyaki
    @J_Teriyaki 2 роки тому

    Documentaries by David Hoffman (and Ken Burns) have been/remain a constant part of my life. So too has🍺🥃🍔🍕💃. Cheers from Australia 👍

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  2 роки тому +1

      I thank you James. May I continue to provide them for the next 30 years. That's my goal.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @Animaine7030
    @Animaine7030 2 роки тому

    Bless this channel

  • @hrdknox2000
    @hrdknox2000 Рік тому

    This is excellent!

  • @dbeaus
    @dbeaus 2 роки тому +1

    The Vietnam War was simply about control. Control of Geography, Natural resources. The South China sea was home to some of the largest reserves of oil in the world and countries were taking it out since the 50's. Also, rubber of course. I won't even get into drugs, you have to ask Ollie North about that. As Joseph Stalin said, "all wars are economic." We had no idea about the oil, it was never mentioned in the media.The Aussies told me about it and were amazed we didn't know about it. We were spoon fed the usual stuff about saving the world and protecting our shores, etc. Anyone who thought and debated was seen as un-American or a coward. I felt for the people of South and North Vietnam who were caught in the middle of this. History will probably never tell the truth about Vietnam. After 60 years, little has changed. Descendants of the same people and corporations still run the show. We should have learned from Vietnam, but I am afraid we didn't. Dan Batitsas, Vietnam, Purple Heart Veteran, 69-70.

  • @heidi7151
    @heidi7151 4 роки тому +2

    If the US didn't intervene to Vietnam after having intervened in Korea, wouldn't there still be criticism in the vein that the US abrogated their duty to prevent a genocide?

  • @karmacounselor
    @karmacounselor 4 роки тому +4

    “Turn on their leaders” was a reality but it makes we wonder if LBJ inserted that idea initially.

    • @iahelcathartesaura3887
      @iahelcathartesaura3887 4 роки тому +7

      Yes! And LBJ was an unspeakably evil monster.
      Like so many in leadership today who instigate the psy-op mind controls & social engineering which Yuri Bezmenov described & revealed to us 😦

    • @thatgirlwhousedtohavereall5549
      @thatgirlwhousedtohavereall5549 4 роки тому +1

      Iahel Cathartes Aura
      I watched the Yuri Bezmenov interview again yesterday. It’s infuriating & maddening that our government of the people by the people are doing this to us.

  • @alfredpaquin3563
    @alfredpaquin3563 2 роки тому +1

    I remember the National Guard people in AIT with us at Fort Sill, they laughed at the Regular Army troops as we got our orders for Vietnam. They were not laughing so had when they found that they were going to Desert Storm.

    • @shadowwolf9503
      @shadowwolf9503 Рік тому

      I did my basic training and AIT at Ft Sill, OK in 1982.

  • @truecrimerip7936
    @truecrimerip7936 4 роки тому +3

    This whole docu reminds me so much of alice in chains „rooster“

  • @iahelcathartesaura3887
    @iahelcathartesaura3887 4 роки тому

    Thank you, David. Wow. Yes.
    I do not have the words...

  • @lawrencetaylor7771
    @lawrencetaylor7771 3 місяці тому

    Why is they taking out the sound at the most prolific parts????

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  3 місяці тому

      UA-cam has done that rejecting the music that I placed there. I am sorry.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @Nyarmith
    @Nyarmith 4 роки тому +3

    man, the 60s really was the american decade

  • @vrubayka
    @vrubayka Рік тому

    When was this made, David?

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Рік тому

      Did you read the description? The series was produced to air in early 1991.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @edoardodardi57
    @edoardodardi57 4 роки тому

    Fantastic!Thank you so much!🙏

  • @AnoahWang
    @AnoahWang 4 роки тому

    Dear David, this was fascinating. I want to suggest that you experiment with changing the thumbnail. I think a frame from one of the scenes deeper into the program could make this title more interesting to click on. Thats just my opinion.

    • @AnoahWang
      @AnoahWang 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe using the image of the president signing a paper for example 7:08

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you for your suggestion and for paying attention. I did not know that I was making this video public. But now that I have, I have changed the image. Your opinion is valued.
      David Hoffman

  • @mikejampo6998
    @mikejampo6998 4 роки тому +3

    Fantastic documentary. So many mirrors to our current revolution.

  • @davidtrani190
    @davidtrani190 2 роки тому +1

    The American soldier will do anything but the American soldier wants to know, Why?

  • @luiscalcano4359
    @luiscalcano4359 2 роки тому

    Might Makes Right to evade fear!

  • @deoglemnaco7025
    @deoglemnaco7025 Рік тому

    Cool!

  • @BearWolf_1723
    @BearWolf_1723 4 роки тому +1

    If today the past exist, it's because someone doesn't want to change it. Bigger question is, who?

  • @VictrolaJazz
    @VictrolaJazz 4 роки тому +2

    It's no coincidence at all that the Vietnam war and The Great Society existed as the same time because they were both products of the same hubris. The Great Society of the idea that any problem of human existence could be solved by funding and staffing a federal agency. Internationally, that any foe could be defeated by applying our superior military with all its sophisticated weapons, especially to such a Stone Age society as Vietnam. After ten years of micro-managing each, both ended in disaster. By 1975, the economy was in the third year of the worst recession in the Post-War era with double digit inflation and unemployment, called Stagflation with shortages galore. We lost in Vietnam and left with our tails between our legs and thus began the era of malaise and disillusionment. It was also an era of unbridled crime with serial killers from coast to coast from beginning to end.

    • @VictrolaJazz
      @VictrolaJazz 4 роки тому

      @Ballistic Bob Sounds like a plan.

    •  4 роки тому +2

      @Ballistic Bob Can I have some of what you are smoking?

    • @VictrolaJazz
      @VictrolaJazz 4 роки тому

      @@hallerd Exactly right!

  • @deoodolecki1539
    @deoodolecki1539 2 роки тому +1

    Lessons not learned. Look at us today. We've learned nothing from history.

  • @meauxbull4321
    @meauxbull4321 2 роки тому +1

    I about threw up when LBJ was speaking....

  • @olrikparlez3152
    @olrikparlez3152 4 роки тому +2

    Appropriate choice considering. Thank you for this.

  • @jceepf
    @jceepf 3 роки тому

    Hertzberg calls Johnson a "personnage". These were the day when French cooking dominated the American and World culinary landscape or should I say dominated the paysage!!!!
    The English vocabulary is immense but sometimes I wonder if there are simply too many words meaning the same damned thing!
    That being said, good video!

  • @partyguy9
    @partyguy9 4 роки тому +1

    Please put a seizure warning for that flashing intro

  • @sharonbrown4590
    @sharonbrown4590 2 роки тому

    This was not the start of the Vietnam War, but the American War in Vietnam. The Vietnam War began before The US military machine involved itself.

  • @Mosey410
    @Mosey410 2 роки тому

    I’m hind sight the domino theory wasn’t so out there. The war in Vietnam probably helped stop the spread . But I guess it’s easy to say either way.

  • @kealebogamolo6685
    @kealebogamolo6685 2 роки тому

    Is that Pedro Pascal in the thumbnail?

  • @luiscalcano4359
    @luiscalcano4359 2 роки тому

    Oh how the USA underestimated the E

  • @bobb1870
    @bobb1870 2 роки тому

    The previous two presidential administration put the policy and sent advisors to Vietnam before Johnson started the escalation. Those advisors were getting killed in Vietnam by the thousands. It was a bad idea to escalate the war for a nation that was involved in a civil war.

  • @tellthetruthna8523
    @tellthetruthna8523 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder what would happen if a similar war and a reinstatement of the draft happened today. What do you think?
    Thank you for posting this video, David Hoffman. Is this where we can watch the entire series? ua-cam.com/play/PLV2GnmObn3E6AMA56Mi25NPtPjDl_r2f3.html

    • @murrayterry834
      @murrayterry834 3 роки тому

      all of the leadership would be forced to send their kids first with no privileges before people would go.

  • @luiscalcano4359
    @luiscalcano4359 2 роки тому

    This is the mentality of the USAs outlook of SouthVietnam.what a ride awakening. Pres. Lyndon Johnson was elected as a peace -loving Pres. , But on a yrs. Time 200000 USA soldiers were in SouthVietnam by mid -1965!
    I lost an uncle in mid -3/1968 , tail end TET, 10 days b-4 my 11 the bday.
    The "Great Society" was a big misnomer to the 60s with The huge involvement in SouthVietnam! My WW2 82nd Airborne grandpa , who saw bloody fighting in the ETO, sed we should of bomb the hell out of the North Vietnam. Probably right!

  • @lactroc11
    @lactroc11 4 роки тому

    nice

  • @soulfulsince0000
    @soulfulsince0000 4 роки тому

    Nobody gonna talk about 11:05?

  • @lonnywilliams7523
    @lonnywilliams7523 2 роки тому

    All wars or a rich man's War

  • @JD-bq1vy
    @JD-bq1vy 2 роки тому

    14:00

  • @shirleybowers7251
    @shirleybowers7251 2 роки тому

    And here we go again. History certainly does repeat itself. Come Lord Jesus, Prince of Peace. 🙏❤✝️✡🇺🇸⚖🇮🇱🎺📢

  • @RyanJBuell27
    @RyanJBuell27 4 роки тому +1

    Bad audio 17 minutes in....

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  4 роки тому +1

      Apparently UA-cam removed the music because I don't have a right to use it any longer. It expired.
      David Hoffman - filmmaker

    • @edhoffman2627
      @edhoffman2627 4 роки тому

      David Hoffman could you dub the spoken audio? Thanks for all your hard work.

    • @tellthetruthna8523
      @tellthetruthna8523 4 роки тому

      You can pick up the portion with the missing audio here. ua-cam.com/video/0qglTer1z08/v-deo.html

  • @jordanhurst6555
    @jordanhurst6555 2 роки тому

    It was that easy to become president? Most Americans want a decent neighborhood to come home to & so do I" *Crowd Erupts in Applause*

  • @ยาโพศรี
    @ยาโพศรี 3 роки тому

    ฉันไม่รู้ฉันไม่เคยตายมันอาจจะดีกว่าตรงนี้

  • @deltahunter2302
    @deltahunter2302 2 роки тому

    It is absurd!

  • @peterhyatt3635
    @peterhyatt3635 3 роки тому

    It's politics man!

  • @edwardsbarbara25
    @edwardsbarbara25 4 роки тому +1

    And, this is still going on

  • @Throawei
    @Throawei 5 місяців тому

    @10:42 🏳️‍🌈

  • @harkmay
    @harkmay 2 роки тому

    No one seems to consider that even LBJ with all his Enthusiasm for Education and social programs- once really informed about the situation with Communism still couldn't deny the need to be involved. I don't think it's a matter of a 'trickle on effect' of communism but more like a 'Buffer Zone'. these Nuclear powers couldn't confront each other directly but you can be sure that USSR was playing a serious game in the world and from what I can see of history, Communism was no trifling matter. there were even Communistic Terrorist attacks on American Soil prior to this. The issue was a real and frightening one and I'm thankful for Australian/ American Servicemen who loved their Countries and served us over there.

    • @wafflepoet5437
      @wafflepoet5437 2 роки тому

      What does love of one’s country, however ridiculous a concept, have to do with killing brown people on the other side of the world? What was the situation with “communism” in Southeast Asia - and the Mediterranean, Middle East, Africa, Central and South America - that necessitated the creation an illegal, undemocratic regime contrary the desires of millions of Vietnamese?
      What were these “Communistic Terrorist attacks” that you speak of? Was it communism that represented a “real and frightening” issue, or was “communism” an excuse to justify the foreign and domestic policies of the United States?
      Johnson’s Great Society would have surpassed every metric of success we credit to the New Deal. He sacrificed all of this along with the material and human wealth of America and Vietnam.
      I’m a Marine. I graduated high school and basic just in time for Second Fallujah. I went to university and stupidly re-enlisted just in time to be deployed to the Helmand province of Afghanistan. The young men in this video were being fed the same lies about “communism” that my generation was fed about “terrorist.” Vague, meaningless concepts used to justify once more the annihilation of brown people on the other side of the world, the support of brutal regimes, the creation of vast new markets at the cost of poor lives. The US government used the threat of “communism” to rob Americans of their civil rights and liberties, to spy on us, imprison us. So too the threat of “terrorism.”
      We didn’t serve anyone over there. We neither served or protected the American people. We didn’t serve the people of “South” Vietnam when we enforced upon them one anti-democratic regime after another. We didn’t serve the Afghan people when our self-righteous pursuit of vengeance reignited civil war. We didn’t serve the Iraqi people when we liberated them at gun point so that American companies could preside over the ashes of unheralded sectarian violence.
      No one in this video knew what communism was and this hasn’t changed today. Americans have no idea what _terror_ is, or (for example) what it’s like for an entire generation of children to fear clear, sunny days because that’s when the drones strike - much like the men, women and children of “North” Vietnam that had to live under the earth to escape the strategic bombing.

    • @harkmay
      @harkmay 2 роки тому

      @@wafflepoet5437 There's a whole heap of jumbled issues in there WP. Very sad that you said there's no such thing as love for your own country a ridiculous concept? seems like the Socialist Academia/ MSM has got to you and taking the legs out of our own serving men. I can scarecly believe a marine would really say such things. possibly a fake one? What is wrong with defending your own citizens and increasing their security and prosperity? that's what every member of every community has done since the dawn of civilization. Being Brown or whatever has little to do with it only for the fact that America happened to became prosperous while being founded by majority White people from Europe? Why did Europeans have a military advantage over general Brown people? was it racism? was it more hate than brown people? No. Morally and Biologically there is Zero difference between 'races'. There's only one Race- wer'e all biologically the same we do realize? Or do you really believe that Dark skinned tribes treated each other better than light skinned tribes through the ages? Didn't Dark Skinned people take slaves from battles the same as Light skinned armies?
      The only difference is that Europeans being in a colder climate had to adapt technotogy quicker to survive, and being in close quarters with other highly developed groups the competition was ferce, so by the time Europeans started exploring the globe in Tall Ships they were far more advanced in warfare than 'brown' or other people.
      In the same way we saw European Empires threatened by each other and colonising the globe out of fear of their rival empires and the considered outcomes if they did not become stronger and exand their Empires [or their rivals would]. we have a similar issue with USSR and USA. Both are skeptical of the other and are putting huge resources into defence based not only on real intelligence but even 'just in case'. And ofcourse the Russians were supporting Anti-Western sentiment to malitia groups in South East Asia and Vice-Versa. Yes the threat was real and our Allies and fellow countrymen sacrificed willingly and lovingly to this simple Cause. The safety of their families and future generations. Does that mean our leaders were perfect? no. But you turn around and think Communism is a better system where you don't even have the right to your own belongings and property? Or you somehow believe a fairytake it all would have been fine if US let the Russians do whatever they wanted.

  • @jacksonbarrett1878
    @jacksonbarrett1878 4 роки тому +3

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