Classic Muscle Car Engine Disassembly - 1969 A12 Road Runner 440 Tear Down
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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The heart of a great muscle car is the engine. Nick has been building and rebuilding classic engines for decades now, and he has the know-how to do the job right. Let's watch the boss as he takes this 1969 440 to pieces, and shows us what it will take to make it right.
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I saw it as you moved it, there was a small piece of gasket dangling off the manifold. The gaskets had apparently disintegrated. As for how long ago, I couldn't say. From the rockers alone this looks like a home made Powernation special.
I admire Nick's attitude. Things are either correct/incorrect or right/wrong and he seems to have little patience with incorrect or wrong.
My father was an aircraft engineer and mechanic that taught repair of military aircraft to people in other countries (we are americans) He taught me mechanics. Ingrained in me to read the manuals, use proper tourque and tourque sequence. Use proper sealant in appropriate ammounts when needed. Know that engineers designed it a certain way, for a certain reason. Those lessons served me well in a previous carrer as a line mechanic for Mercedes Benz in the 80s and 90s.
I took that knowledge and moved to a career in micro mechanics and have never looked back. Dads no longer with us but his legacy lives on through myself and my nephew. Whenever I work on a project I remember his many words of advice.
I called my parents who are huge Nick's Garage fans and told them, "hey, get this up on the TV right away, Nick is going through my mechanic's secrets line by line, he's covering everything! Gaskets, RTV, bolts! I haven't been able to finish watching yet, can't wait.
Great video, Nick.
These are probably my favorite episodes, tearing down the engines.
Nick is a hero to the average car enthusiast I hope he can pass this craft on to the next generation
I always play Nick's Garage in my garage, as I work - very inspiring, and I find myself being a LOT more patient, methodical, and successful, working on my 30 year old Jeeps. Thanks Nick!
Great to see a pro who knows what he is doing sharing his knowledge.
Nick is the best! Smoking tires in the spring time with NO MASKS. Go NICK!!!!!!!
Good morning Nick and Goerge...the muscle car community needs people like you with the skills and passion too do things right.
Nice of you to mention Grand Spaulding Dodge. Back in the late 60's & early 70's we were a couple of backyard mechanics running a '65 Dodge Coronet and trying to run with the big dogs at the Chicago-land tracks. We would look for deals (handouts) wherever we could find them. Mr. Norm and his bunch down on Grand Ave would let us dig through their 'extras' and take-off parts - prices were way more reasonable than we had a right to dream. Norm Kraus was always there with a tip or encouraging words. Seems like they always had dozens of big blocks just waiting to get stuffed into some unsuspecting Dodge Dart.
Thanks for keeping the legends on the road.
You are right about the “ugly” miss- matched bolts.
Least of the problems...
It's like a forensic engine autopsie, very cool to see Nick identify all the mediocre workmanship.
Would definitely like to see an assembly video that’s as detailed as this one.
Sadly that motor was probably done years ago by someone with little experience and definitely no eye for detail.
It probably ran worse after it was “rebuilt “.
The odd intake bolt and stud combinations could indicate attempts to deal with persistent vacuum or oil leaks.
Hopefully for the rebuild it wasn’t done to get past stripped threads to get to a few good ones deeper in the tapped holes.
Helicoils are great for a fix as long as there’s enough surrounding material on coolant, oil and air passages. Guys will do desperate things to try and save a vintage part, best take it to someone like Nick who knows all the tricks.
Isn't he good at this? Wow he knows all the factory correct parts
and fabrication steps; a very impressive man and talent.
Love the passion as well as shaming the turd that cobbled that engine together. Too bad Tim will end up paying twice but this time will be like night and day
Good of you to share the teardown. MUCH info given out about the engine and how it should be. THANKS!!
You bet!
Nick, you Sir, are a true craftsman, I applaud your skill, my father, god rest his soul, was a MOPAR guru, built, best estimate about 100 Chrysler and verious other make motors. Dad's real love was 440's, we still have his 1969 B5 blue Roadrunner with 440, 50 years in my family, hopefully we will restore it to it's former glory. Your information is priceless, Thankyou.
Kudos to the owner for letting Nick do a teardown of his engine on camera. We all learn from it.
If they're full roller rockers in good shape with the right ratio, I would reuse them.
Joe. Yes, good point. We are probably going with the same rockers.
This was a great one....enjoyed watching that teardown....
I have a friend that put together a 318 for his 70' Cuda back in the mid 90's and that's EXACTLY how he did things.
Any bolt that fit was used, 10 pounds of silicone etc.... lol
A real hack built that 440 motor
hey,my methods worked when I rebuilt my briggs/straton mower
In the mid 80's I worked at a garage with an older mechanic. His first name was Raymond. Raymond had several 5 gallon buckets of bolts and screws. When Raymond tore something apart and put it back together he would dump a bucket out and use what ever worked. It looks like Raymond worked on the 6 pack 440 engine. The plus side to Raymond's buckets were.....If you lost a bolt or screw you just went over and asked Raymond if you could look in his bucket for the missing part. Saved my butt several times.
Ty Nick I love watching all your videos and really really appreciate the knowledge that you pass down. I'm humble to you and all the others at the shop for all that you do and one day I want to be just like all of you. You're all heros and role models of mine and no lie I truly look up to each and every one of you down there and especially you Nick. I hope one day I can meet you in person at one of your friend gatherings. I'm 27 yrs located in montana and it's my dream to have a shop of my own someday and take after your legacy. I can't thank yous enough and there's not enough words or time to finish this text to meet my expectations, just know in my book you'll all go in it as gods. Ty svm
I don't think I've ever seen Nick happier - he's having way too much fun with this block !! (His love for MOPARS... and all cars is quite evident). He will have this car back to factory, if not superior, standards no doubt !!
Great editing George. No way Nick did that job without some very colorful language! Have a great week at the garage.
Thanks 👍
I bet he was saying some of his finest French words about some of those mismatched bolts !!! Lol
George is da man!
@@rodneychapman1506 I would expect that Nick swears in Greek, his native language.😊
Your right Nick, I take off my valve cover to adjust the lash, don't need they stuck on.
Your knowledge and pride in workmanship is irreplaceable! Unfortunately they sure seem to be dying qualities but every now and then a young guy springs up with the same passion. Pass along as much as you can brother...that's for all of us old guys to hear! Thumbs up!
It good to see a good mechanic explain what is right and wrong on motors. Thank you.
It may have its problems but at least they shipped it all the way to QC for you to get it set up correctly
Always love seeing and hearing from Nick pointing out the fine details and correcting the build...
Not all super heroes wear capes, some work in a garage....right Nick! 😉🤜🏻🤛🏻🍻🤗🐻🤗
I love how Nick is so old school he does not even use ratcheting wrenches let alone power tools. Just a simple wrench for all those bolts.
I like it when these are restored to the way they came from the factory... for me these cars are time capsules..I wanna know and see how it was back then. if someone wants modern technology or power, drive a modern car..my opinion
The mechanics who touched this A12 must have thought ‘six pack’ meant drinking while wrenching on it; more like several six packs from the looks of it. 😂
😂
Haha, I like it.
The only shouldered bolts with a protruding stud and nut I have seen from the factory was on Pontiac engines Nick. 3/8" for the front A/C bracket and throttle bracket, and 1/2" on the head for the rear A/C bracket and three on the left head for the heated air plate and for the negative battery cable. I have always been a stickler about proper fasteners too. The 'H' head bolts x12 should be on the carbs as you already know. Sadly, there is a lot of butchers out there that do not know (or care) about details. Thanks for your continued dedication to the hobby and for doing things the right way!
Very instructional!! He truly knows what he is doing and not shy to tell it like it is.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he cleans up, the addition of forged pistons, and whatever else he sees fut to run the vibration and get this engine to push 400++ horsepower.
Thank You Nick for doing an engine tear down, this is what I came for years ago.
Thank you Nick for being picky. The biggest project I ever did was change the 2 barrel intake manifold on my 1959 Ford to a 4 barrel. I got lucky, my dad said the car he and mum bought, in Soo, Ontario, was a 352ci actually it was a 332ci and he(dad) wondered why parts didn't fit. I was lucky the block was the same except for the exhaust manifolds.
This is one of the best Nick’s Garage videos yet. Really enjoyed it! Looking forward to more. Tim clearly made a wise decision bringing it to Nick.
When you were showing the TDC and #1 piston it reminded me of a situation in the late 70's. A bunch of friends were trying to re-time a 318 in a dodge dart after taking out the distributor. I walked up and they said it wouldnt start, I said is the rotor pointing to the #1 cylinder in the dist cap? they said no its pointing to the actual #1 cylinder in the block! I said thats wrong and they argued w me for 10 minutes. Finally they did it my way and it fired right up! The silence was deafening after that!
I enjoy re-watching Nick's engine tear down videos. His knowledge on originality and specifications always impresses.
Glad you like them!
don't you just love the way people spend money for nothing and to give the moteur less power,nice tear down nick
Love the teardown part it's the mystery of what's inside that makes it very interesting!
I love watching Nick the true master reworking someone else's sin's! Mix matched bolts and slapped on parts do not belong on that beautiful Road runner!
Thanks for the great video Nick. Good analysis of the various incorrect parts. I’m gonna guess the vibration is from that fly wheel.
Lon. It would probably will be the flywheel.
I love your passion and your concern when doing the work on the Mopar engines hopefully someday I'll be able to send you a vehicle and you do the same for me
Looking forward to it, Brett.
Glad to see there are still real mechanics around, Mopar was the best.. Thank you for keeping them alive.. You the best !!!
Quality work and tradition is getting to be rare today..Nick is some of the last that keep the standards...!!!
Incredible A-12 dr nick to the rescue for the 440 that shakes
Nick the lash caps are used when your trying to correct rocker Geometry sweep but the scary thing is when they are used with the Hydraulic lifters there’s a small change if they bleed down and there’s always a chance they can come out . Who ever rebuilt this motor before was a shlep . After your finished with it will make 400+ easy and will look the goods aswell.
Good morning Nicks Garage Crew ! That back yard mechanic didn't expect Nick to be going through this motor 😳. It looks like Nick is enjoying ripping into it .
Morning!
You're a classic Nick. Just like the muscle cars you've been working on since "back in the day." Love your passion.
I'm guessing the flywheel is balanced wrong, thank you Nick .
I think it's your work ethic that I admire the most about you Nick.
I see the things that put a smile on your face... and you're not shy about showing
frustration when fixing another mechanic's mess,
Really enjoy your show, and have a Nick's Garage T- Shirt to prove it :-)
I believe the correct intake in 1969 was the same as the block, cast iron that was forged & it weighted a ton. Aluminum intakes now days are easy to work with because they are light weight to handle, but after time they warp from the heat of the engine. A lot of work went into the parts back than because they had to be cleaned up prior to assembly. Lots of grinding to clean up the edges.
Amazingly! I was waiting for some rod bolts to be from "Home Depot"!
Nicks the best
Nick when you go to put that engine back together show them how to correctly install a gasket
@@darrenbrisson4336 . Good point. I should.
They just took some threaded rod and made a lot of studs but I don’t know why especially on a piece of art like a A-12 69 Road Runner.
And takes almost nothing to hold valve covers on...
It's always fun to watch a true professional at work! Thank you for sharing your Mopar knowledge with the audience. Oh, and kudos to whomever sent you the Conch Republic flag! That's a fun story that typifies the spirit of Key West and The Florida Keys.
Stock internals with high dollar rockers etc smacks of window dressing, built to visually impress. Great video Nick, impressive videography and editing too.
Can't have window dressing without a window. As Nick said, once the valve covers are on, nobody can see, let alone be impressed with your costly upgrade.
@@johna1160 Fully aware of that. BUT, it's not difficult or time consuming to pop the valve covers and thus reveal shiny performance lifters, after all, if one were looking to buy a muscle car with a supposedly 'hot' build the very least I'd expect the prospective buyer to do would be to pop a valve cover. I have done in the past. The oversize fuel delivery system also overkill and fitted to impress. What other reason can you come up with for wasting money on unnecessary performance mods to a stock engine ?
Hello from Australia Nick and everyone at Nick's Garage. Have a great Christmas. Thanks for another wonderful year of great videos
Thank you, and thanks for watching in Australia! Merry Christmas.
And again as always, I look forward to each video, preserving the best of the past, I grew up with these cars but could never afford one back then, however my next car will for sure be either a Challenger or Charger 392 Scat Pack.
Thanks Nick & company for these great videos, they bring back wonderful memories, about what real cars were like and makes you realize we are lucky that Chrysler still makes modern cars in the same vein. Modern Mopars in a sea of look alike cars, are what makes life exciting!
Nick you are the master of getting it done right
Nick, The amount of work you and your team manage and produce...Amazing!
Much appreciated!
love the ✅ and ❌ by George for factory and non factory discovery
I would say this engine was assembled by a shaded tree hack with parts from several different engines. That would explain why there is a mixture of studs and bolts. He had to make up for missing bolts and parts like the 383 valley clamp.
Can't wait to see it done the right way and hear it on the dyno Nick. It is enjoyable to watch you work.
Thanks 👍
@@NicksGarage ... Have you built a Mopar 500 c.i. stroker with a 6- bbl ... I think that would be a nice engine for the Road Runner A12... With some Trick Flow heads & TTI headers...
Love watching engine disassembly! Ya just never know until you dig deep!
Mornin' Lucas. Glad to have you 'in the shop'.
@@NicksGarage Hi Nick. I see the 68 Cougar on the lift. What are you doing to the Cat? I have a 70 Cougar, the businessman's hotrod.
@@NicksGarage Happy to be here! To answer Nicks question he has probably asked I do sleep just like being up early and it’s Monday so new NG episode lol are video Thursday is a revamp of the 66 383 4BBL Charge:)
@@nova467spanker , Waiting to see what my client wants to do with it. Very rough car in and out.
@@nickpanaritis4122 Yes I understand. I replaced both full length floor pans and the torque boxes in my 70 Cougar. Did it in my regular 2 car garage. Never want to do that ever again. So it looks like it says GT on the fender or is that a reflection from something else? Is this a 390 car or a big block? I love Cougars, they have great body lines.
-Matt
Giasou Nikola,
It is Friday night & finally I get a chance to put my feet up & enjoy your video uninterrupted from start to finish.
All I can say
" IT IS ABOUT TIME YOU BLOW YOUR OWN TRUMPET "
Now I am speaking on behalf of the Roadrunner. Look at the way the beautiful Roadrunner is looking at you with a tear in its eye. That tear is a tear of joy & love. The Roadrunner had heard about Nick Garage from other Mopar Muscle Car & now it cannot believe its luck, I have finally made it to Heaven, that is Mopar heaven where Mopar Guru Mechanic Nikola knows how to rebuild me probably & back to factory specifications.
I am worthy, I am worthy, yes you are
you beautiful Roadrunner.
Now to the Malaka with a Diploma who should be charged with
Cruelty to Roadrunner's, hang your head in shame.
The Roadrunner couldn't be in better & safer hands & it is catching up with a couple of its cousin's remembering the good old day's.
If the Roadrunner can talk, this is what it would say to us.
" Thank you for bringing me to Nick's Garage "
Your number 1 Fan in Australia
Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
Louis. We will do our best on the A12 RR.
@@nickpanaritis4122
Giasou Nikola,
That is an A12 given 👍
Love the teardown videos - keep em coming once in a while. Looks like a total novice reading too many magazine ads planned and built that one - thankfully, the engine wasn't ruined beyond repair before Nick can fix it up right!
It's a treat watching Nick work, and listening to what he has to say, he is a treasure trove of wisdom and information, he is a maestro mechanic, an artist, and always delivers the best.
In the perfect world, you should have 3 threads sticking out on any nut and bolt combo.
NHRA sur duz , specially on wheel studs. Just to B sure U don't kill ur-self or anyone else. Machines don't have a brain - you hav-ta use ur own.
4:34 Cougar! COUGAR!!! Shows us da COUGAR!!! :D
Brand-x I have a 67 cougar full restoration, and I work one day a week in a mopar shop! Owned this car 45 years,thanks
@Perry Elyod What episode was that? I missed it. I am a huge Cougar fan. I had a 1968 with a 289 that I raced back in the early 1970s.
I saw that Cougar too looks like a 68 GT I would like to see Nick do a show on that, I own a 68 XR7 with a roller 302
@@thomasgoens3391 . Soon to come.
@@jimmyraythomason1 . Soon to come.
Nick, pay close attention to the pressure plate for the vibration ! Had 2 springs go soft in a 3600 pound Hay's P plate and it shook my teeth out ! There was nothing else found wrong in anything else as I did a complete tear down and checked balance of everything in the power train ( even the driveshaft ! ) Nothing but the plate was found to be out of balance or alignment. Sent the plate back to Hay's and they found the problem and rebuilt the pressure plate & disk. It ran perfect after that .
Mike. Had the flywheel sent out to have it checked. Way out of balance for this application.
@@nickpanaritis4122 Good ! found the problem. Another issue I learned was don't ever surface a standard shift flywheel on one of them magnet flywheel grinder machines !!!! . No sir , Put the flywheel in a 3 jaw metal engine lathe and re cut it on a metal Lathe after you check it for run out as you can get a much courser finish on a big swing engine lathe for better clutch engagement and less heat build up ! ( hot spots or cracks on the flywheel ) as with them magnet flywheel grinders, they are very questionable as to if they take the same amount off all sides of the flywheel and the finish is way to slick, plus we have no way to know for sure if it took the same amount off all sides of the flywheel, witch again can shake your teeth out ! because of out of balance. ( been there ) Sometimes things are not as easy as we think ! A good old school Machinist is always our friend ! P/S, nice to find a man that does just about everything I do the same way ! as all my stuff seems to holds up pretty well to ! wink wink !
@@hydroy1 Thanks for the info.
Every time I break down a motor and it has gasket sealer like what you have here proves to me that the mechanic or builder of the motor did not have faith in his work, afraid that it would leak because of non knowledge, this really drives me crazy. Thanks Nick I am David from Denver, Colorado
great video will be a lot of work rethreading all those screwed up holes, the last builder sure liked to glue stuff keep safe
Nice tear down video I use a rubber mallet on a sealed up valve cover just tap it on the corner’s and it will break lose most of the time can’t wait to see the rebuild video you rock Nick !!!
Nick you are the best at what you do you give love to the car's you repair wish you had a shop in new York thank you for being an honest mechanic and a true car lover and hot rodder God bless you guys
Not a bad looking cougar there. back in the 70's a friend of my dad had a big block powered one .
It is a good looking car. Stay tuned for the story on that one.
Good Morning Nick. A hot cup of coffee, and a tear down of an original A12 engine on Nick's Garage, no better way to start a Monday. I love watching Nick tear down an engine, and telling everyone what is wrong. I was surprised to see that the engine had stock rods and pistons, and that the rods were not 6-pack rods. I'm sure that in 1969 that the intake manifold came from the factory natural finish. I had a friend who bought an A12 Road Runner, and the intake was natural finish, and was from Edelbrock. Lots of things wrong in the valve train, but Dr. Nick will take care of all the issues, and Tim will have impressive engine under the hood when Nick is finished with the build. A very impressive video George, I loved the sound effects, and the music was great. A Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to everyone on Nick's Garage.
I am hooked on your channel. I am the same age as you and grew up a motorhead. It is refreshing to see all of these cars from the 60's that we were all buying for such cheap prices. If only I had know what these cars would be worth today!! My girlfriend in 1980 bought a 1967 Corvette roadster for $3,800. She sold it in 1983 for $5,500 and she thought she got a great price. Of course based on the latest figures, $100 in 1983 is worth $267 dollars in 2021. So that $5,500 would cost about $15,000 in todays money. Good luck trying to find one at that price..
At 48:43 you can see that the cylinders were not burning evenly by the colour of the valves. 2 holes have white ashy valves and 2 have black sooty valves. My bet is one of the carbs is out of sync and the mixture imbalance is where the vibration came from.
I absolutely love Nick's tear downs, it's like engine builders C. S. I.!!!! watch and learn with Nick and his muscle car engine investigators!!!!! great stuff as always guys, thanks again guys!!!!!!!!
Wish I lived closer. I would like to have my 1965 Galaxy changed from the Cruise O Matic to a 4 speed.
i would spin the flywheel with the clutch&preasure plate all together
I would put a whole new assembly on while I have the engine out anyways lol
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on the correct factory setup of this motor
Thanks for joining us!
Another exciting moment for us through Nick. Rebuild and show us some real Mopar grunt.
That # 1 piston shows major oiling past the rings.
If you take 5 minutes and remove the oil pan before inverting the engine, that cup or so of remaining oil (and sludge, etc) in the pan doesn't pour back into the crankcase, so everything you remove thereafter isn't drenched with oil and dripping as you remove them.
I know it will be right when Nick builds an engine!!!!
i hope we get to see this engine put back together after the machine work. Teach us Nick. Thanks
Really well made content that can be referred back to for years.
E1: the customer wants that Mopar feel after we put new rings on the pistons err rebuild the engine.
E2: No problem, we’ll use these special rockers, use this flywheel off of a different 440, and take some weight off of one side of the harmonic balancer... it’ll be fun!
Great episode!!! My guess is the vibration could be caused by mis-matched parts.... A 4-bbl. Crank & rods with a 6-pack flywheel & harmonic ballancer, or maybe a 6-pack flywheel with 4-bbl crank, rods & harmonic balancer... The choice of forged piston is good for racing... The hypereutectic / stock cast aluminum pistons for street use is what I prefer... I know that Nick and his team will get this car running properly!!! That valve gear and ARP fasteners was a lot of money $pent for very few results, especially when using the 361, 383, 400 (shorter) pushrods.... The stock cam & valve gear will probably work very well in this engine...
Michael. Had the flywheel checked, and was way out of balance for this application.
Hello Nick, I have been enjoying our channel an watching hour every move. I would like to see some build up process too. Thanks and , keep on smiling.
Thanks for that show, chaps - it was really interesting to see the guts of an old 440. I used to get a vibration in my old '70 Challenger R/T's 383 engine - it only happened when I got to 50mph+ I always assumed it was the harmonic balancer, but I now realise that it could have been any one of a number of things!! Great show as always :@)
Love the tear down, would love to see the whole reassembly, especially since I'm building a 440, would love to see all the tips and tricks when putting back together.
@Mitch Johnson ...are u doing a stock factory rebuild on yours???
@@ghostrt1608 gonna be stock bore and stoke but different pistons, heads, cam, might even try edelbrocks pro 4 efi kit
the way you tore that thing down Nick man I tell you that tells me you're a lot more than a professional which is good thanks for the bid again and again I think I seen it two times before anyway hope your vacation was good
Wow what a hack job,having the correct fasteners is THE most important parts of any engine build,also,if you own a hotrod ALWAYS carry a fire extinguisher just in case!
That is such a nice car; we all know it'll get the best treatment from Nick to get it in top shape!
As for the intake studs on one side, bolts on the other - it'd be even weirder if the studs were mixed side to side - try getting the intake on with that setup!
And regarding the hardware store nuts and bolts, at least he didn't use nails.
That disassembly was fascinating! I’ve watched this twice already and will be watching it again! Great tear down Nick, and thanks for sharing! 🇨🇦🇦🇺🇬🇷
Awesome, thank you!
29:23 - never thought to use a flex head ratchet like that - good time saver!