Helldivers 2 was advertised too successfully
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2024
- Helldivers 2 might be one of the best co-op shooters of all time. Helldivers 2 gameplay consists of satisfying gunplay, funny lore, and servers at capacity please wait. Because the Helldivers 2 trailers were simply too good. They weren't even gameplay trailers, they were cinematics but they were hilarious and the tone of the game overall is perfect. I didn't play Helldivers 1, third person shooters aren't my jam, but the marketing team for Helldivers 2 was cookin, and I love Helldivers now... when I make it through the server wait time.
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So they originally had a server cap of about 260k, that got immediately filled so they were able to raise it to 380k, that too got filled. Some context, the Steam concurrent player count was that high at one point and that's not even taking PS5 players into account. And just now they've been able to raise it to 700k. All this to say Arrowhead's previous highest concurrent player count was like, 12k lol.
Just no way they could've anticipated this level of success, literally unthinkable.
As a salesmen if you advertise and partner with massive companies you should expect success especially when you advertise the way arrowhead did
Not planning for success is exactly how you experience failure
Or breed a brain dead toxic ass community that praises a game that released in a worse state then many pre alphas
But hey this was acceptable if this was the new cod you guys totally wouldn’t be throwing massive fits on Reddit
Running servers is expensive. Its not surprising that most companies rather undershoot their capacity numbers.
@@ShakaTechie this wasn't a server issue. It was a coding issue that was throttling the servers when so many people were online.
@@Skim_beeble7125They planned for 250k which is 25x the amount of players they’ve ever had lol, on top of being an indie company and they’ve made huge progress on the server issues within two weeks, while also being totally transparent. If you’re not happy with this, idk what to tell you,
Also worst state than pre alphas? Cmon lol get real
@@Skim_beeble7125 Worse state than many pre-alphas? Examples?
The best loading screen tip I've had so far is:
"Friendly Fire isn't."
It most certainly is not, that's for sure
I don't remember the exact wording, but there's one along the lines of "Every citizen of super earth is equally important, but Helldivers are the most equal of them all"
@@TorvicIsSanta ii read that one and laughed. Animal Farm was not an expected reference.
"If you notice a squadmate sympathizing with an enemy, report them to your Democracy Officer. Thoughtcrimes kill!"
What I want to say to all the horny people online trying to put the tid in Terminid.
there is a loading screen tip telling you not to drive drunk. I don't know why but that one got a laugh out of me for how unexpected it was
also "Don't forget to take breaks! That is, if you want to be remembered as a coward" (paraphrasing)
FOR SUPER EARTH
OOH RAH!
Hell ya
FOR SUPER EAAAAAAARTH
FOR SUPER EARTH
*FOR MANAGED DEMOCRACY!*
The crazy thing is they did very little advertising for this game at all. They had a trailer but didn't have any advertisement campaign pushing the game. Instead, after the first weekend of folks playing, the power of word of mouth made this game beyond popular. Just given the math, say the first weekend you played, then got three other friends to get the game for week 2, you're tripling player count just by asking friends to play. They also implemented a afk timer and suddenly the servers are doing a lot better now that they aren't full of folks afking all day at work
Exactly! I hadn’t even heard of this game or it’s predecessor until release, when the intro cutscene got recommended on YT. Now, it’s probably my favorite game in a whole lot of years, and it’s not just another reluctant choice of “which game was the least shit?”
HD2 is legitimately a *good* game with *good* devs who mean well and enjoy their creation. They’re literally fixing account bugs one at a time through a ticket system until the full team can finish work on server-wide solutions in the next update.
And Halo Infinite has 6k Players world wide on average but people call it an success LOL.
What is this Game then in their respective Point of view?
AAA Games really arent that good, they give this rating themself. And yes they Pay more to create their games but in my opinion its because of the Shop scam bullshit they program First and have Trouble Afterwards to connect that with real content (cosmetics are, If they dont Change the gameplay Not content but simple cosmetics - people need to stop to call it that way!
And of course the big Marketing campain that cost crazy amount of money because the average mouth to mouth Advertisement will Not work because the Games are Shit.
They had no advertising because from what I've read they expected maybe 10 to 20k people playing concurrently. So much for expectations!
@@Bloodstoner Yeah for reference the first Helldiver's had some 6k maximum concurrent players so thinking 10-20k would be a liberal expectation but yeah as we saw what happened!
I literally never saw a ad for helldiver 2 till watching videos about it that included the ad
"Dying on a foreign planet, killing godless aliens *IS* the American Dream"
- best quote I've heard that describes Helldivers and our generation perfectly
*PUT THIS ON A TSHIRT*
It is God who created man in his own image 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@OK-zo3cqDoesn't exist.
@@shadowofthehitokiri5787 y'know what, I respect your opinion. However, under managed democracy, you have freedom of speech but can't guarantee freedom after speech for treason.
@@shadowofthehitokiri5787atheism is cringe
"I looked up WWII and it was real" I laughed so hard at that oh my *lord*
Was looking for this comment! XD
Okay, that one really was the single most funny quote I've heard in the last several months, maybe multiple years.
"Those friendly fire incidents were entirely unavoidable"
@@stankobarabata2406in space, nobody can hear OSHA scream
The existence of friendly fire implies unfriendly water and I find that comforting.
Remember: Friendly Fire, isn't.
_"Democracy fills my sample container"_
@fSigma' Once the pin has been pulled, Mr Grenade (or Mr Orbital Stratagem) is not your friend!'
"They can't hide in the trees if there's no trees" ~ US Army 1961-1971
Long live the Buff.
*Fortunate Son intensifys*
Because of the mayor order being 10 days left, I presume this was recorded 5 days ago
For people that want to buy the game, I would say at least for the past 2 days there have been no issues login in to the game (a week ago it took like two hours, right now ir takes seconds)
Although matchmaking seems to still be broken to an extent, but you can join random squadrons and don't need to add people as friends in their discord anymore
they boosted the cap a shit ton up
Yep! I believe the current CCU max is up to 800,000 right now, previously when a lot of these problems were happening it was roughly 450,000 if I reacall. Source for this being the CEO in the Helldivers Discord.
Yeah just constant crashing and bugs this game is a mess none the less we payed for a pre alpha
Haha a game about bugs full of bugs
And the 15 minute kick, preventing people from being logged in all day from the morning opened up a lot of room too.
@@Skim_beeble7125haven't seen many bugs
As for the crashing, I have an rx 7000 gpu so the game was unplayable but putting --use-d3d11 fixed it for me, no promises this will do anything for anyone else
Im a helldivers veteran, I am almost crying with the amount of liberty being spread
Absolutely same brother
This brother, i miss My exo 44.
you mean liber-tea?
Same make me happy to see
Same brotha, I've had some friends who never heard of the first game ask me if the vets of the first game act pompous or as if they know more. I just say we're all happy this game is exploding and is getting amazing attention cause we all absolutely love it.
Everybody makes fun of me for choosing the 380mm barrage until I start to alter their local topography
Wait, that is an option? That is just shy of being a Marine in 'Nam with the New Jersey sitting off the coast. The New Jersey's 16 inch guns (406mm) were used to create instant LZs, not via barrage, but via a single round. Then there is the famous "the New Jersey sinks an island" episode, that was admittedly hyperbolic, but not by much. If you can call in that type of shit in Helldivers then I hope they give good binos, because the potential kill/ maim radius on those things in something like a quarter mile.
@@Jeremiah90526you get a glowy baseball with as much range as you can throw it for. The 380mm barrage is kind of a yeet the beacon and run sort of play.
@@jedimike7622I cannot count the amount of times I threw the 320mm barrage as far as I could and STILL not being able to outrun the blast :’)
@@Luukluukluuk12 which is hilarious, because just a little bit ago I had a buddy throw his like, two feet away from us on accident. Somehow the whole 4 man squad survived. I was confused and concerned, but relieved.
Fun fact the bugs decompose into oil, fuel... that's why we farmed them, then they escaped starting the second galactic war, when the cyborgs took the chance to perform a revolution... The Illuminate, not in the game YET, are the only ones that do not spill freed- OIL, upon the ground when liberated. No matter which enemy - at this time - you fight, you're spilling oil.
Fun fun fact! The Element isn't exactly oil it's E-710 which if you turn upsidedown spells O I L
O 1 7
never noticed that@@Dunkopf
*"How about a nice cup of Liber-tea?"*
uurrrggghh yuk
@@jonny_codphilo7809 get out of here commie
@@jonny_codphilo7809 It's said in game. Allow yourself, or at least others, to have some fun without being negative for no reason.
@@jonny_codphilo7809found the socialist robot
Tea!? How dare you! /s
The funny thing is I don't think they even went too crazy with the marketing campaign. I didn't see loads of ads pushing this game in the lead up to launch. It's just that the cinematic intro/launch trailer is such a banger and is actually representative of the real game in terms of both gameplay and satire, that it went viral on its own merits.
This game is genuine multiplayer coop goat material.
I don't remember seeing a thing for it, I only knew about it because I stumbled upon it a month before launch, remembered the first game and went "Oh, neat". My surprise now is of extreme proportions
I never heard of it honestly
i love how rare a co-op horde shooter were released and being kept alive by indie/aa. i appreciate when one is released, thankful when its great, and it hurts when it didnt (last time was B4B).
I got exposed to the game through Malevelon Creek memes
i love how every universe where united humanity fight aliens is just Space America
America has to go overseas to fight people. Makes sense for the stories America tells itself to be about going to even more exotic places to fight even more exotic people.
In this case, we're actually as Space Nazi's. Inb4 "Are we the baddies?"
@TehParismio if an inferior species starts taking over the planet you were previously colonizing, would you think of yourself as a bad guy or just someone trying to protect what you own from being taken from you?
@@vpaul4374 FOR DEMOCRACY! FOR SUPER EARTH!
@@vpaul4374First of all the whole setting is clearly like the one in the Starship Troopers movie, the only source we are getting is the propaganda from an authoritarian government (mind you voting doesn't quite exist in super earthy it's an algorithm that picks for you). Second of all the Humans where the one that started colonising the Bug planets, it literally says so in one of the crew voice lines ("We found them on all planets we tried to colonise")
It's the most obvious satire and it surprises me there are still people that don't get it
Just an FYI,
The servers released with 100k per platform. It was beyond undersized for what they got, BUT to be clear their previous game(the first Helldivers) had a peak player count of under 7k. 100k at the time had to have been looking like overkill. That weekend in under 48 hours via some black fucking magic they pushed it up to 280k per platform. I am a DBA and I have no fuckin clue how they pulled that shit out of their ass. Over the next week and some change they moved it to 300k then 400k and then just recently 700ish thousand. I forgot the final stat exactly but it was finally enough to survive the hype train they were unironically suffering from. Along with that they finally implemented an auto kick system to deal with the people AFK camping server spots like assholes(there was roughly 100k people kicked from this system on its release). Again before release there was no way you would predict even having a need for that.
Also god bless them they are doing all of this on an ancient swedish(i think) game engine that you genuinely can't even get anymore. There was no way for sony or anyone else to just throw bodies at the problem.
Anyways all that to say that is why there are so many different numbers as to what the capacity was. They were actively working 16 hour shifts for multiple weeks and weekends trying to get their servers up to snuff, and it shows from how many times the kept pushing updates and server cap increases.
Hope they get a nice long rest
So true. Who nvr played HD1, doubted HD2. But when influencer and the likes gave rave reviews, people went mad and wanted to play HD2.So yeah.
Give it a few days its going to go up again
The game engine isn't that obscure, seeing as it is what is currently powering Vermintide II and Darktide. Which, in hindsight... makes a _lot_ of sense.
The game engine is not some archaic piece of software. It's a modified version of the Autodesk Stingray Game Engine which was discontinued by Autodesk probably while the game itself was in development. Stingray has also been used in Vermintide and Darktide.
If you want to know true terror, try playing a bot mission solo. The game suddenly becomes Metal Gear Solid V.
On the game itself, it's incredible. Me and my brother used to play Helldivers 1 (a top down twin stick shooter) years back, and to play a game that feels like such a huge step up in scope but with the same gameplay loop and style is just a dream.
it's like playing the witcher 1 then playing the witcher 3
How is it solo? All my friends aren’t interested in playing and this is my kinda game
@@carpetcreed3841unfortunately insanely hard, but there is a quickplay feature that matchmake you with other players
@@carpetcreed3841 If you're only planning to play solo I'd probably not recommend it. There's no "solo" mode as such, it's just people turning off public matchmaking and jumping in for a challenge. However most of the public games I've been in have been a laugh, especially if everyone is mic'd up and bantering, so if you're happy to play with randoms you'll probably enjoy it. The peak play is with friends you know on mic though, even having one extra person on a mission makes it more chaotic.
I'm a solo player too, got a refund after an hour. You just drop on procedural created maps, run from one map marker to the next, kill bugs, extract and do the same again. In a team it could be fun, as solo hard pass.
no but can we acknowledge just how good the facial expressions on that man in the intro cutscene looks? I've been dying to talk about it, his anguished expression is so well made, from his neck folds to his furrowed brow.
Good point! Im curious if they used a suit with dots (forgot the name) or made it using cgi only. Great job nonetheless
I love that this game makes the "wars" real it adds a whole new level to the immersion.
SO THATS WHERE THE BALLS PING CAME FROM
On the topic of detail, I love the fact that after the icbm detonation, the map weather clears up for a few minutes.
1:29 "I kind of love [the game's satirical theme] unironically. Dying on a foreign planet, killing godless aliens, IS the American dream." 🤣
The bugs leave us covered in goo, out of ammo, and sick of the planet
The bots leave us covered in oil, silent, and desperate to get off the planet.
James hasn’t spoken since that mission we lost Kerry to melevelon creek.
Just wait for the Squids.
6:22 “it is beautiful… can’t wait to liberate it” that’s immersion!
I’m so addicted to this game
I have 99.6 hours, Page 10 unlocked and I'm level 50
Yeah, This game is addicting.
@@TheUnknownDyou’re a hero of Super Earth. Keep up the fight!
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
FOR LIBERTEA!!!
@@TheUnknownDbugs or robots?
@@totalygamingtemplar Both, Mostly robots.
I totally get what you mean about camera perspectives; I've stayed away from whole genres of game simply because I couldn't get past how the camera was positioned, and often I've only gotten into said new genres of games specifically because one really really good game convinced me to get over it and play it and got me hooked (which I suppose is what Helldivers 2 has done for you!)
I’m the same way. I’ve had the Witcher 3 recommended to me a trillion times but the camera position kills me. I like two third person perspectives in games. Either over the shoulder Resident Evil style, or zoomed out far enough to see me whole character. If it’s somewhere in the middle of those two it kills me. I realize the Witcher’s camera zooms out in combat but when you’re exploring around and Geralt is right in the middle of the screen it bugs me. Helldivers perspective looks fine. Zoomed out until you aim then it goes over the shoulder.
It's wild to me just how much this game blew up. I play games almost every day, and I never saw a single advertisement for this game, except seeing the name on the PlayStation store a couple times. If my friends hadn't played the first one, I genuinely wouldn't have even heard of it till the day it came out. I'm glad this game did blow up the way it did though. Just like what Baldur's Gate 3 did. It's proving to the world what a game with actual drive, and talent, and passion behind it can achieve
I haven't been stuck in a que since the cap was out to 700k last patch, had some crazy firefights on Draupnir tonight. The way you can join randoms and then learn to work together is a very unique experience.
Seeing this game explode showed me how little people know what starship troopers is
Honestly? At least the first movie just doesn't quite commit to the bit. I genuinely thing Helldivers does what SST (movies and related) were trying to do but better. Both are pretty different from the book, but that's just media in general.
@@kennator64yeah im ngl the movie feels like it takes itself a bit too seriously for what it is
"They can't hide in the trees if there's no trees"
truer words have never been spoken
Good news, severs (should) be fixed now from yesterday’s update
The update actually included an idle kick timer. Which I believe is the main reason why majority of the server problem is fixed.
that is one of the big contributors, they also raised the server cap to 700,000 which helps a ton@@rynodragon2316
I literally have NEVER SEEN THE TRAILERS FOR THIS GAME
Love the fact that one of this games best mechanics/features is so similar to the old community wide challenges games used to do (more frequently at least). For example, if people remember the challenger for BO3 where however many million kills or whatever had to be reached by the community in total, giving free weapon crates.
It really is one of the best games ive ever played. The fact I can jump into a game and TALK to people and just shoot stuff and everything just works is amazing lol
"If you aren't careful, you can grow yourself out of business." Hooh boy , story time. Nobody's going to notice this comment on a month-old habie video, but this reminded me of something in my childhood.
If you lived in Southern/Midwestern Idaho about 20 years ago, there was a small department store called Kings. They sold various items locally as a chain in a few areas in the state, but for me my favorite part was that their stores always had a basement that was a combination hobby and toy aisle, where they sold various models, toy vehicles, trains, collectible items, you name it they probably had something like it there. It was one of my favorite places to go as a little kid whenever my folks were looking to get some tools or something for around the farm. They were also very successful - successful enough that they decided to branch out and spread their business. Which they did. Which bankrupted them. Apparently they were doing well enough that they needed to expand to match customer demand, but hit that sweet spot where they expanded and suddenly overextended their ability to cater to their customers (or at least something along those lines). Long and the short, within a few years after attempting that expand they went out of business. The last King's building got torn down about a decade or so ago and the lot is still barren and empty down the highway in a small town called Payette, and it has left a void in my childhood soul that will never be filled again.
Yeah, so, that was storytime with Kerian, hope you liked it.
0:24 thats actually a real economic process called "Diseconomies of scale" i would like to thank my Microecon class of this information
we should start referring to YTs algorithm as "the automaton menace"
im so glad habie covered the discord insanity, i was there during it and saw the entire server locking down, it was INSANE
I mean to be fair, as someone who was there, the discord was WILD. Aside from the F’s, someone mentioned a possible pride flag cape!
Needless to say many bans followed as some of the audience expressed their “distaste” with the idea.
Spoke with one of the mods. A lot of the people demanding pride flags were getting banned for racial slurs and grooming. Those people then went on to Steam to complain...and I notice those players got the (banned) tag next to their name.
This community has gotten real weird.
@@Lightscribe225Well yeah, they're groomers. That's what they do.
I love it when habie fills us deep with content
I haven’t even seen any official ads, my exposure to the game has been completely natural
This is literally starship troopers reskinned and I’m so glad people are loving it. Starship troopers was such a good read and movie.
Damn only 3k views? Habie fell off
Just played this last night with the boys
"It IS beautiful... Can't wait to Liberate it"
Banning people because they have fun and meme around on a discord server is perfect to alienate your community to leave so i'll leave a F to fallen discord members
The server issue seems to be mostly solved now since they increased their server capacity to 700k and implemented idle kick. Hopefully this weekend doesn't screw their servers and Arrowhead keeps on improving it.
Servers are back up, they upped the max cap to 700k so its like 75% more stable
Habby I came back from basic training and now this is the first video I see 100% worth it
I was passively listening to the end sequence with all of the -- let's say "sound effects" and it summoned one from deep within myself.
Love the content and the humor, brother. Subbed. God bless.
just a head up the server issue was fixed 2 days ago the bumped After the size up to 700000 and you can log on when ever
“This is beauuuuuutiful… Wooooow 😊”
“Time to liberate it 🗿”
Forgot it was Saturday, thanks for reminding me habie
What a wholesome ending message. Need more of this.
The fact that you are also fighting this war with us makes me so happy
"Suffering from Success" in a nutshell
Everyone loves this game for how nostalgia that it brings to the old, good days of gaming.
Fly high Habie, we will miss you, I wish to thank you for making this video before the event. 😔
Helldivers 2 was built using a discontinued game engine called Autodesk Stingray. The same engine used for the original Helldivers launched on the PS3 in 2015.
I have to work today but started downloading this just before leaving for work. Gonna be a good night
thank you for the video would love more helldivers 2
i saw a youtube channel created about the lore of helldivers 2 and a short talking about a battle called "the masacre of malevelon creek" talking about how people were outnumbered, if you didnt have armour piercing you were doomed, etc. i find it crazy that theres already stuff documenting it as if its star wars lore or something
Loved it. Thank you for the content. God bless Habie
just discovered this game yesterday and today habie played it
It's so crazy how much fun a game can be. I always thought that the glory days were behind and we'd be left with mediocre games for a few years. I can't believe how much fun this game is, it's so simple yet so elegant, and I can't stop playing, and I can't wait to see what's in store for the future. Single Handley reviving video games for cheap too is the best thing that's ever happened, thank you!
The planets in Helldivers is everything we wanted from Starfield
UPDATE ON THE SITUATION:
I've recently got the game and played it for around 20ish hours, and so far, I've had zero problems with servers or connection issues. Other's I've talked to also have had zero problems for the past 2 days or so.
I think my favorite Name for ships I've witnessed or heard of was "SES Fist of Family Values."
It’s Saturday, I’m in the UK and only started playing Helldivers today.
Not had any problems finding a game (On PS5) and only experienced one toxic player so far, who was happily killing me also happily wasting lives to respawn me again just to kill me, then when I shot him back I got kicked. So apart from that one idiot the game has been amazing fun and very enjoyable.
Have a blast while it lasts.
I had issues about 4-5 days ago getting into servers but for that last 2-3 days I haven't had to wait once.
I’m glad they added an afk kick detector
thankfully it looks like they've gotten a grip on the servers after flying away on fire. I've gotten in with no opening screen for 3 days straight compared to the day before waiting literally 7 hours to get in!
The bots took Malevelon and then removed Habie from the algorithm before he could convince us to join the fight.
habie147: you probably already know this
me: what is helldivers???
Server limit was raised to 700k yesterday (or 2 days ago maybe) I haven't had a login issue since.
It's funny because I've rarely had the server capacity issue since, as an australian, my peak play time (5pm-12am) is like 1am-8am US time, so I, and other aussies rarely ever play when servers are at capacity.
This game looks really fun! I can't wait to start waiting to play it!!
"it's beautiful. Can't wait to liberate it."
When habie uploads you know its gonna be a good day😅
Having played a lot of the first game a quite some time ago, it amazes me how popular the game is.
My gaming buddy had never heard of it until I’d told his helldivers 2 was coming out.
No wonder the servers are struggling, never would have expected so much success holy shit
Let’s go habie uploaded!
They've been swinging in the low 400ks for about two days now. Server stability, entry, and responsiveness has all been really good. Some minor issues with ping but it's stabilized a lot. I wish matchmaking was cleaned up a bit (it can be difficult to join a missions at times or to start a mission solo/with one or two friends and still end up with a random)
The 15 AFK timer fixed the main issue.
“Dying on a distant planet killing godless aliens is the American dream”
_YES_
Its the weekend and iv been able to log in, play and match make whenever iv wanted (Even at player counts over 400k)
I think we can assume the server problem is gone and now we can anticipate the future of this game.
I just knew this week's video would be on helldivers.
This idea of everyone playing the game all working together for a common goal is actually a REALLY cool game mechanic.
just finished the video cant wait for the next one
I've never had a wait time for this game
7:42 the most Mechanicus thing I hered.
I need more montages of Helldivers 2 with rock music
Yeah, no issues loading into the game now. I imagine the implementation of the 15 min AFK kick was a major contributor (probably some backend fixes too).
Only problem I have with the game now is the random crash to desktop (for me, this only occurs when I mess around in the armory for too long) or infinite loading screen of the hellpods dropping down from the ship.
Not enough to stop me from liberating
That’s the thing though, there was so little advertisement that everyone I know who loves the game never even heard of it until it released (anecdotal of course)
"Thats all I did this week. Play Helldivers and wait to play Helldivers" - I never felt so connected to a comment
There are few joys like the weekly dose of "tractor starting but it's farts"
Weirdly I only saw the reveal trailer and left knowing there were now 2 games like this coming out and not knowing which was which
"SUPER EARTH, FUCK YEAH!"
This video comes at a time when the servers work great again
As always I love your videos😊
No u dont
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I’ve logged in over 16+ times over the weekend and haven’t had to wait a single time. Last weekend I couldn’t play unless I waited 30-60 mins, things are quickly getting better and better. Still have a lot of things to fix, but I’m happy with it.